Starlink For RVs is Official - No Wait, Portable, Pause Service - Always Low Priority Best Effort
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2022
- Todays Starlink quietly launched a new section for their website offering a service called Starlink for RVs.
It's the same equipment as the residential service for $599 + shipping, and the same service cost as the Residential service with portability enabled for $135/mo.
However, unlike residential with portability service - Starlink for RVs doesn't require a service address, can be used in anywhere in one's home continent, but always at best effort deprioritized service. Also, the service can be paused.
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another great video, always appreciate you guys being on top of things and getting the information out quickly. as soon as I saw it on the Facebook thread I kept checking to see if you guys are doing a video to give some more clarity to it. Well done!
saved me a bunch of time
Thanks for the update, you guys are the best!
I have been looking for so many answers you have addressed in one video, thank you, so informative.
Thank you for including boaters!
Just ordered mine. I live in the Arkansas Ozark mountians on our home stead. We have horrible internet that we have to bounce signlas off towers on other hills. We got the RV one so we can travel with it as well.
My order is supposed to deliver on Thursday. Can’t wait to set it up!
Thank you.👍🏼😎
I canceled my preorder which I had already waited for 12 months. After I put the order for RV, I got the RV version on the 3rd day. Speed in my area are between 30M-120M, most of the time is 50M, its good except I need to pay 40 CND more!
Hughes had a Pause or Suspend "feature , but you had to call each year on the EXACT day of the day it started. Or they would automatically restart your service and bill you even if you are not set up to use it.
This kind of shit started when AT&T bought out Direct TV.
I bit the bullet and paid the premium price. I have an off grid property that only gets 1-2 bars with no data. I was looking at boosters for $400 or so with no guarantee of data actually working. I bought the unit $700 with tax and shipping, the small eave mount, installation kit and a mesh router to expand the coverage. I then also bought the pole mount and a 150’ additional cable. So, now I can easily remove dishy and disconnect the router from the cable and take it with me. My solar generator shows that the router/dishey uses 38 watts to get internet.
So, yes… I spent about $1000 to get set up for the first month. I will be paying $110 a month instead of $75 for internet BUT I can take it with me to my property or camping for $25 a month additional…If power or internet goes down, I have the satellite connection
One thing worth noting is exactly why we jumped on ordering starlink for rv, is that out CenturyLink internet is MAX 3mbps. Making it horrible. We are 2 miles down a dirt road the main road is constantly under construction and the line gets cut constantly on top of that. We are waitlisted for residential starlink so literally anything would be better than the torture we go through now. Especially running my hvac business from our home. It’s a nightmare
Thanks!
Thank you so much for the Thanks!
I'm currently waiting on residential starlink got an email about this and ordered 4 minutes later 😂 my current internet peaks at 500kbs so even 5mbs on the low end is a good increase
Same here
What I am really waiting for is the hardware that will allow mounting of the dish on the RV roof. Right now I have my disk permanently mounted on the roof using a Winegard DS-2000 Universal 22-inch Tower Mount. Every time I move the RV I have to go on the roof and put it in a horizontal position. I am sure once in motion is allowed they will come out with some type of hardware that is low profile and does not have gimbaling. From experiments that others have tried it looks like the phased array can handle mounting the antenna flat. I saw pictures of a Starlink antenna mounted on Starship and they will need to mount it flat when they start installing them on aircraft.
They applied for FCC certification for a mobile version last summer. As soon as there are updates, we will report on them.
It will be interesting to see if Starlink themselves offers a "mobile / RV-mountable" dish, or if they just license it out to the various makers of portable antenna/dish systems, such as Winegard. I've seen a variety of hacked versions that are mounted in a horizontal / fixed position, but there are a couple of issues with that. The first is that, if you have your RV parked in a shaded area under a tree, you won't have the ability to drag the dish out somewhere in the open to get signal. The second is that, while the phased-array technology will capture satellites within its plane of view, it's not nominal, and you really want that dish to orient itself to the proper view on the horizon in order to give the phased-array the best chance of capture.
I was waiting for a regular starling order but I received an email about the RV option and I cancelled my pending order and I ordered an RV this morning. I didn't know the difference but I ordered. I will try to use it in my home
If you plan to use it primarily or exclusively at a fixed location, then the residential service will probably be better.
Thanks for the updated Starlink news. Curious what people are reporting for bandwidth with the RV service, in areas still listed as Waitlisted. Wondering if those areas are already oversubscribed or don't have not much service yet.
The RV service was just rolled out, so there are no first-hand reports yet.
Chris , also from looking at the map can you tell if the area Cadillac Michigan is in the area for coverage, I’m colored blind and have a hard time seeing colors , thanks.
I appreciate all of your updates on StarLink (been waiting for my area to be available for a long time). Do you know if Starlink will allow us to change our RV service to home service once it's available in my area?
They do not support that at this time, but say they are working on it.
Next is Starlink for Cruise ships! I know there is one airline already or will be testing it soon!
Hmm. An interesting feature. It's something I will definitely think about.
Thanks for the great information. I have had my Starlink service for more than a year. This is obviously the round dishy. We are going full time in our Rv later this summer. My question is has anyone been successful in putting a splice in the cable from the dish to the router? I asked this question thru starlinks support and got the answer that I expected. It’s not recommended. As we move I just didn’t want to mess with a 100’ of cable thru a 3/4” hole. Thanks in advance.
Here's our full guide to Starlink: www.rvmobileinternet.com/starlink (this video is covering the new RV service). You might also be able to find further 'hacking' resources like this in the 'Starlink for RVs' Facebook group.
A few boats are using StarLink in the US Virgin Islands.
I am waiting for the in motion dish.
This morning, on Starlink's map site, there is a quadrilateral shaded area (if you zoom in) between Pensacola and Montgomery.... will be interesting to see if this turns on sooner than "expanding in 2023"
Our service address in central Texas is still shaded in the darker blue with "Expanding in 2023" noted. However, we just received our dish a week ago. Similar for a friend who is closer to Houston, also in the same shaded area, and he received his a couple of months ago. So it seems they are doing some more detailed evaluation about coverage and density beyond what is shown, and trying to get more users in those areas online.
This is interesting stuff. Any word yet if/when the Caribbean and Central America will be added to the service? For us boaters that will be the real game changer.
We have some information on that in another recent video:
ruclips.net/video/MkyGnB2yN7s/видео.html
Is it the same equipment as the regular residential dish? I'm just curious if I can order the RV version and them switch to residential when it becomes available in my area?
It is the same hardware - but at the moment you can’t change service types. SpaceX theoretically is working on allowing this at some point.
I just want my service now, I've had my deposit and order in since Jan 2021... im debating on getting the RV but I don't want to be locked into lower priority forever...
Any idea on how this effects my existing wait listed order.... Say I get this to use at my house while waiting for the residential service... Would I be able to switch the plan (using same dish)?? Wish I could talk to customer service.....
At present time, there's no switching.
Had Hughes net for last year ans half. 100 bucks a month for 30 gb cap that then drops the supposed 25mbs down to 1-3 which actually runs inconsistently around 500kbs. Thinking about canceling my residential pre order been waiting on and getting this. Any thoughts? As other people stated the 5mbp with no cap should be a notable improvement I would think. Welcome to your opinion on it.
Only you can decide what is right for you, we just present the options.
Great Video! Question about the residential + portability plan. Can the service still be used at home even if we take a trip and are using the portability option? For example, if my wife and I go on a trip and are using the portability option, but our adult children are still at home, can they still have internet access? or is it a one or the other situation and not both? Thanks so much for being such a great resource!
You can only get service where you have Dishy physically at. So if you want service while traveling and service while at home, you'd need a second dish/account.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter That's what I figured. Thanks for the quick response! Keep up the great work!
We got our Starlink about 2 weeks ago in Seattle using our old address. We roamed into Canada a few days ago and it worked with no input from us
Of course it does! You’re in the available coverage area go to the eastern part of the US then tell us what you get.
In Seattle?? I've been waiting since Feb 2021 and people in Seattle can get Starlink!!!??? I'm in rural area northwest of Spokane and we've been stuck on 700kbps upload DSL speeds for 10 years now. This upload speed is just killing us. We get 14Mb down, and it works for 4 of us for Netflix/RUclips (with buffering at times), but games or live streaming or even Wifi phone calls are really flakey or don't work at all. I'm assuming you are not actually *in* Seattle or the metro area where they have Comcast or other services available. It's so dang annoying I see so many people getting Starlink and they have options like LTE at home even, I don't even have that!! LIke, I see RUclipsrs say they gave up on Starlink because their Verizon is faster and more reliable! Come on!! Geez. Why Starlink allows them to get anything is really annoying. I think we are just slightly too close to Spokane, but we're around mountains with almost no line of sight to cell towers or Wifi towers and DSL is barely useable. Sorry, not trying to give you a hard time. It's just very frustrating. Anyway, It'll show up one day.... story of my life as internet is concerned though... DSL in Spokane came out in late 90's and we couldn't even get better than ISDN way up to 2004, and still couldn't get Comcast. we seem to perpetually be out of range of the fast stuff.
Did SL say what uploads would be in a congested area. I live in a area that has little to zero options for internet where 5 mbps would be ok and I have found the if your uploads are next to nothing, so is your downloads.
As per the chart we showed in this video, they are claiming 10-20 Mbps. But we generally see 5-10 Mbps ourselves.
Good luck trying to pause. There is NO pause that I can find at customer support is vague in description. Still not able to “pause”.
Priced themselves out of my reach as a retired fulltimer. Since I purchased a mofi 5500 and use my grandfathered Verizon unlimited that is prioritized, I experience download speeds anywhere from 30 mbps to 170 mbps for only $65 per month. Hard to justify doubling the cost. At $99 I had it ordered and they were shipping it but then they announced the increase so I canceled.
Definitley keep your verizon plan!
Chris I recently heard a RUclipsr say starlink had a adapter for the router that would allow you to plug in a Ethernet cable , is this a good thing and how would it benefit someone, thanks as always,Kenneth.
The Ethernet adapter would allow you to access your Starlink router via hard wired Ethernet instead of Wi-Fi. All depends on your LAN needs.
Add portability requires you to activate first at your service address, THEN you can roam. Found this out after 1 mo with portability but still not able to activate until I switched my service address.
We have very mixed reports on that.. many have been able to activate portability service far away from their service address.
That figures! I saw roaming was not enabled initially on my system, I wonder if thats the deciding factor
Boom
The important question is how many watts does it pull?
The current generation seems to pull 40-60w.
We have traveled from Southern California to Key Largo and to Nova Scotia this summer. During those travels we have seen 5 Starlink Systems on everything from trailers to large Class A RVs. The latest was a park in Canada using Starlink for its' campground Wi-Fi. It is amazing how fast this system is catching on.
Excellent analysis Chris and IMO, Elon's ever evolving service offerings and pricing are guaranteed to keep you busy well into retirement (whatever that means LOL)
Is it possible to buy regular starlink with portability and change your service address to a waitlisted area? Can it be done immediately? Do you need to join a waitlist?
There's no waitlist for changing your address.. you can only change if there's availability at the moment of your request.
What is the maximum suspend time? Can it be for example half of the year?
Yes, currently there is no limit on how long it can be suspended. You can pause on a month to month basis.
Taking my modem from my house to my RV is not a problem. Taking my dish from the roof of my house to the RV is a life threatening experience. Can you just buy a second dish?
Yes, you can have up to 3 dishes/lines of service on your account.
I would order rv now for my residential adress but i dont want to lose my spot in line to get the actual service
You can add a second line of service if you want.
STARLINK... hey we are truckers cross-country in European union we need your service for truckers as internet provider... How many hundreds of thousand we truckers are for your market!!
Can a starlink dish be permanently mounted on the roof of an RV? Can the dish handle the wind loads of driving at highway speeds?
The current Dishy is not designed for that.
Voids the warranty
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Thanks. That’s what i thought. I mounted mine to my RV roof and made it easily removable so i only re-install it when parked and remove it anytime i drive.
@@SuperheroArmorychannel An extendable painters pole attached to the RV ladder and the Starlink pole mount adapter is the route I will go if I ever choose Starlink. Pretty sure the pole mount/dish will just screw onto the painters pole, then just plug in the cables.
Will this impact existing residential capacity and waitlist time for those still waiting for full residential service?
Probably not, as RV service is depriotized.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter citation please? I've had people I know get next day delivery in rv list, while I've waiting 18 months. I'm so tired of having unusable internet and I'm so tired of being angry about elons false promises.
My Starlink Residential pre-order currently says "Starlink expects to expand service in your area by mid 2022." and my area for new orders says 'Expanding in 2023'. My question is, should I keep waiting or should I try the RV version?
Totally depends on your needs.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter I do a lot of gaming on fps shooter games and I play competitively in Call of Duty, also trying to restart my youtube channel. This would only be used at home for now.
@@rhutabaga In your scenario, the Residential service is best. Wait; as they launch more and more satellites, the situation can improve.
I live in central Florida . If you look at the availability map from most areas east from Minnesota down to the middle of Texas starlink is unavailable. I’ve been on the waitlist list for two years now. Getting the RV package makes zero sense to me if I don’t have coverage. Im better off waiting for more satellites to be launched. Just a while ago we heard of the pricing increase partly because of chip shortages. Suddenly they have so many units ready to ship with no waiting? Seems inconsistent to me.
Perhaps since Tesla’s stock price drop and Elons bout with Twitter they may be trying to generate some cash flow. Just saying. Why would anyone needing service at there home go for the RV package when service is limited at best and unavailable at worst? I’ve waited this long think I can wait a little longer.
Their map is just for availability for ordering, it's not a coverage map.
This is great news, but i can't find out if the RV version still required 240v( i'm in Australia). I would really like a 12-volt version of Starlink. Does such a thing exist?
No, they don't sell a 12v option yet. This is still the residential equipment.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Thanks for the reply, is it on their roadmap to provide this option. Using inverters etc is very inefficient.
SpaceX has not shared any hints that they are working on DC power. But in some hardware hacking groups people have worked out how to build their own DC power supply for Starlink Dishy, bypassing the indoor router entirely.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter I just ordered the RV setup. I currently have an inexpensive modified sine wave inverter which I only use occasionally. Do you think that a modified sine wave inverter is ok to run the Starlink system, or do I need to upgrade to a pure sine wave inverter? Also, what size inverter would you recommend? Of course I would really prefer a DC power supply.
Chris, unless I missed it, I do not recall you mentioning that Starlink also offers a try it for 30 days, and if not satisfied return the hardware for a full refund offer. It's listed at the very bottom of the Starlink for RVs page. It would be very nice if at some point Starlink were to also offer maybe a $40 weekly rate.
We do cover their return policy in our guide.
I am not sure why you would want starlink in a highly populated area when cheaper and faster hard wired options are available. Ee have now used starlink in portability mode with no service degradation.
RVers and boaters (the audience this video is intended for) don't normally have access to hard wired options.
Does Starlink Residential + Portability allow you to pause service also?
No, that is a major difference between the two options.
I’ve been waiting for my star-link for 2 years what could be causing this I live near Milwaukee anyone in Wisconsin got one?
Major urban areas are likely already at capacity for priority level service. You can switch to the RV service if you're ok with being low priority.
Lowest priority does that mean even over a home user that is roaming?
Starlink for RVs is always at best effort, as is roaming with portability enabled.
Iv been waiting a year on my internet :(
Starlink with portabiliy is going to work for me, as I am in an RV. However, there is a limitation listed that I am unsure about that perhaps you know the answer.
International Travel: Starlink can only be used within the same continent as the registered Service Address. If you use Starlink in a foreign country for more than two months, you will be required to move your registered service address to your new location or purchase an additional Starlink to maintain service.
I will be travelling to the US from Canada. So 2 months with portability would work fine, but I'll be staying in the US for 5. I'm certainly happy to change my service address if necessary, but I didnt' think this would be permitted. Can I change my service address from within Canada to the US?
The details of that are still being worked out by Starlink. They just say after 2 months you have to adjust your address/terms or buy new service.
Can residential Starlink service be paused?
No. But you can of course cancel your service.
Well fedex lost mine amd starlink has 0 cutomer service..
Can you get ISPN on Starlink?
Not sure what ISPN is? Not a networking term we're familiar with. Only thing coming up on Google is 'International Society of Pediatric Neurosurgery' ?
LOL - perhaps they meant the former ISDN which stands for either Integrated Services Digital Network or for the snarky, "I Sure Don't Need" 😜 Okay okay, I know I'm dating myself so these days we can go with Integrated Services Packet Network!
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter It's a cable channel I currently get on Direct TV, wondering if they have the same programming?
@@homertalk Do you mean "INSP" channel? The Westerns channel? If that's what you mean, then yes.. there is a streaming option.
I do not have Wi-Fi here
Did Elon Musk forget *Starlinks own "first come-first served" moto? 🤨 I ordered the "original" *Starlink service on 4/15/2021 (over a year ago)! Since that time, they have changed the dish, raised the price, added business services, sent *Starlink hardware and service to thousands of Ukrainians, and now they've added an RV service that you can have delivered almost immediately using the same dish, throttled service at a higher price? Where's my dish, Elon? "Come-on-Man"! 🤣
You can order this new service if you want it now and don't mind not being priority service.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter ~ I understand that I can order "the same equipment" (RV/roaming, "throttled" service, at a higher price, etc.) and it will be shipped immediately, however, my comments were directed towards *Starlink/Space-X, why am I still waiting over a year for the "same Equipment" and standard residential service? I don't want to be throttled down to as slow as 5-Mbps based on internet traffic because that's what I have now. That only defeats the entire purpose behind my original *Starlink order 13 months ago! 🤔 My *Starlink account currently reads "Available mid-2022". I'll keep waiting. 🤨
We're not Starlink, and we doubt they are even watching our channel. We are a news source for RVers and boaters seeking mobile internet solutions.
@@royrobinson4636 the reason you're still waiting for hardware and priority service where you live is because all your neighbors jumped on the service before you (first served). Starlink has a finite capacity in any given location, and they cannot increase capacity at the local level. Capacity is increased on a global scale as they launch more satellites into their constellation. You are not waiting because of Ukrainians or even people in the next state, you're waiting behind people in your town.
@@Travelers4Good ~ If that were the case, then why can an RV/mobile/roaming user get the same hardware, in the same Town, with similar service tomorrow, while I remain waiting over a year? *Starlink obviously has the hardware and the service to offer to any roaming users tomorrow, but not the people who have been on the wait-list? Could it be the additional $25 RV roaming fee? 🤔
You pay the highest price but get the lowest priority?
Good point yet per Starlink's business model, they perceive RVers are willing to pay a premium for mobile service where Starlink can adjust the Quality of Service (throttle/constrain). And at least for now, since Starlink is the only game in town for their unique service offering (compared to mobile cellular providers), as long as they can offer reasonable data transfer speeds Starlink will pick up market share for the RVer target audience. Yet since Starlink must be careful not to overuse their precious/scare facilities for existing rural customers, they must carefully juggle their aggregate customer base. And let's not forget their new cash cow - Starlink Business customers willing to put down a non-subsidized initial investment of $2,500 and $500 per month. Like it or not, it's a clever business model and... stay tuned for more!!!
To enable portability like this, they have to reserve some capacity on each cell for transients in the area. Which means not committing capacity to local customers.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter that is a reasonable explanation for paying the highest rate but not for having the lowest priority, in my mind anyway. That's OK though because it's not my business and I can choose to continue waiting to see if I want to spend my money with them. I think they are on the right track and I'm almost sold but, not yet.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter also, thank you for all the videos you do. This was a great explanation. Easy to understand, timely, and informative.
I've had deposit for internet for my house in ohio for almost 2 years and they keep saying 2021 then middle of 2022 then when I go online now it says 2023. Elon come on work on united states before you give service anywhere else. Literally 30 min away has service
Imagine if they had actually talked to RV owners and users to realize that RVs are primarily 12v, and not making us power the device off an inverter. Such waste converting 12v to 110v then back to whatever the dc voltage is of the starlink router.
This is more them reacting to RVers adopting the residential setup. They do have a specific mobile version in the works.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter That's great to hear. I'd love to buy it today, and as much as I'm willing to perform some of the hacks I've read about, I'd rather have something that has a 12v input.
True, however the reality isn't as bad as it might appear with the current version. Even though the specs say about 100 watts (per hour), many are seeing about one-half to one-third of that. So even though it's not technically optimal via an inverter, you can use small inverter to alleviate some of the overhead and get very decent current pulls.
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DUMB... If your paying for a service you should get that service... Then your paying more and getting less... WTF?
Horrible company. It plays people for suckers. Antenna and all hardware should be included as part of the service at no additional charge. Their hardware is clunky and it looks like it was designed in the 80's. Service pause should be prorated. One might add up paying for two months for one week of use.
Starlink just had a few rocket launches sending more satellites to expand the reach and stability.
Yes.. they are on a launch cadence of a few a month. Where this video was filmed, we watch every one launched in Florida right from our boat.