@@elysiumcore Don't sleep on the osteo, you get you and another teammate with it and you can just spam it down lanes and the enemy just cant push. Sure it isn't meta but it can definitely be good and something that many people don't really know how to combat.
This was the roll I was hoping for, but got dynamic sway with onslaught/rampage in the second column and a stability masterwork that has still felt pretty great.
Heal clip + kill clip is a super fun slaying perk combo. I won a 1v3 because one guy over pushed me after my teammates died, and I came around the corner fully healed with kill clips damage boost twice. This roll also had Stability MW and Barrel, so it was pretty sticky for me. However zen moments anti flinch is nothing to scoff at, it's super hard for anyone to get you off target once you start the engagement with shots.
Yep that’s the chase I’d say. 60% faster fire rate and a reload bump. Healing and putting out crazy DPS. I have it but with a reload master work and shit for the alternate perk slot.
@@gamerclips1882 The reason Onslaught is a great pair is due to it also giving you a reload speed bump, synergizing nice with Heal Clip. My absolute God roll would be Heal Clip w Incan/Onslaught but I'm def never going to get this lol
Never played trials before but after watching you for a while, and with the new changes and additional options for Passages, I decided to finally give it it a go It took a while to get into the swing of things (I love me some crucible) I got my first adept trials weapon with the passage of persistence and I got a Heal Clip Kill Clip Adept Summoner And I gotta say IT ABSOLUTELY COOKS
Congrats on your first Adept! And for that to be your first roll, unreal man, I've played with over 20 Adept Rolls and I think Heal Clip Kill Clip(or Onslaught) is the "Unknown God Roll"
I got 12 different summoner adept and man, i tried onslaught, rampage, zen moment and i got to say that heal clip with golden tricorn is my favorite, it makes me get so many kills
I finally got my godroll yesterday night. I got one with Small bore, Ricochet Rounds, Heal Clip and Onslaught with a Range Masterwork. I guess the stress of trials was worth it this weekend.
My adept summoner dropped with Corkscrew rifling - Ricochet rounds - Zen moment Golden tricorn / onslaught With a range master work & it melts everyone 🔥 went flawless 2 more times after my first card with it
My God Roll Summoner is Hammer-Forged - Ricochet Rounds, Zen Moment and Kill Clip. That is the one I really want. My Current Summoner Adept is Full Bore - Light Mag, Zen Moment and Kill Clip. I currently have 647 kills with it and its an easy 1v3 weapon. Get the first kill and you you will literally roll the other two people in quick succession before they can even pop off. The Summoner was my favorite Auto Rifle way back when it first came out and now is my favorite Auto Rifle once more. It just makes me so happy during Trials clutching a 1 v 3 with it and the other dudes on the team go woah wat the hell was that haha. Great video as always Jake. I don't know why I am just finding it 2 months later though lol.
Target lock I think it’s good for average people who can’t hit head shots. Onslaught is amazing pair that with zen moment it literally makes the next fight a win guaranteed.
Even the Passage of Persistence is very difficult. You waste a large amount of time when you are playing with random teams and you alternate a win, then a loss. It almost makes getting that 7th win super difficult unless you get a lucky 2 win streak every once in a while. It definitely is hard for solos out there
I feel if you are going to wormhusk, heal clip is underrated. I think you can get the stability you need JUST from the base perks of the gun. Heal Clip + Onslaught goes HARD especially since heal clip will help protect you OR prep you for the next engagement. Having heal clip + onslaught, getting a kill, and dodging into a wormhusk reload could STACK heal clip and Wormhusk and make you nearly fully healed for the following engagement.
I like heal clip and onslaught for those insanely quick kills and recoveries on top of that. However, I don't blame people for having a more neutral game roll.
Kill clip needs to self refresh while the perk is still active if you get a kill and reload again. All other kill base perks do, direct comparison is multikill clip
Jake you mentioned Heal Clip is better for aggressive style guns, if you get Heal Clip/Onslaught you might want to try it out. Onslaught doesn't just up the RPM it also increases reload speed (it's not stated on the in-game description) which helps with using Heal Clip, and could end up leading to it being more aggressive after the first kill. Just food for thought
I have a hammer forged, high cal, perpetual motion kill clip with stability masterwork and adept range that works pretty well, 2 seconds after moving getting 10 stability handling and reload then 8 seconds later it doubles and kill clip with radiant is really nice
I got a Heal clip and Target lock/Onslaught. It been clapping cheeks for me this weekend. It works because I am an aggressive player so having onslaught and healclip really works in my favor. Plus it's not really that unstable of a rifle even sub 60 stability. I think it's all preference because I've gunned down and been gunned down by other rolls as well.
People are gravitating towards zen moment target lock, but because of this eventually target lock will see another nerf, so have a few more rolls with different in slot perks whether it be rampage, kill clip, golden tricorn, or onslaught is a really good idea
I've tried over 15-20 Adept Rolls, and Heal Clip Kill Clip(or Onslaught) are ABSOLUTELY the best 6v6 Rolls. For Trials, I think Zen Moment could potentially be the best perk, but by no means do I consider it the "end all" perk
Sitting back and gunning people," weapons are the best kind of weapons to play support with. The heal clip doesn't just work on yourself. You also grant 1X cure to your teammates which will proc any abilities that give you ability regeneration for supporting your teammates. Target lock on 600s is nasty AF.
The number one 5/5 on this wep is hands down Heal clip + Onslaught. Due to the amount of synergy, utility aka team healing plus dps output in conjunction with quick recovery. And going as far as being a complete viable pve weapon meta as well. All in all it’s a 5/5 pvp and pve weapon. Second alternative perk from heal clip is Zen moment. However, a worthy note that makes heal clip work better is Onslaught… due to causing people to flinch which would negate Zen moment users. But using heal clip without onslaught would not feel the same. In my experience after getting my first kill, I would heal to full plus x1 onslaught and cause flinch city on the opponent and then create a cycle of recovery and more flinch with x2 OS and so on.. yes Zen moment may help you win the first fight, but Heal clip with OS will literally cause you to wipe the whole team. Onslaught dps/flinch plus!!! Reload don’t forget it also increases reload!! perk helps heal clip continue recovering and then heal clip allows onslaught to keep going and if you have this combo you will have a lot of x3 OS interaction and just mauling away through bodies.
The amount of times I've seen this damn gun and it melting my face off caused me to take a break, I really need to get one but man I have this stupid complex when it comes to trials and that is I fear ruining the card for my teammates.
After farming for a bit on my 7 win card and not picking up any zen moment or DSR rolls I settled on 2 drops. Heal Clip/Kill Clip and a Subsistence/Onslaught. 2nd one could use a better 1st perk but I manage pretty well on MnK. The first one feels good to take a fight and get the kill, Heal off HC and then take a second fight with KC going. Again im on MnK so not having the Stability or Handling perks isnt as big a deal for me.
Do hammer forged barrel or extended barrel, ricochet rounds, zen moment or heal clip and onslaught. I find I almost never miss or die with hammer forged barrel, ricochet rounds, zen moment and onslaught for PVP. For PVE extended barrel, ricochet rounds, heal clip, and kill clip is the way to go. I rip apart mini bosses and even to heavy damage to bosses went I'm out of heavy ammo for my hammerhead
This thing is a monster with zen and tricorn. Target lock is a waste on autos especially if you're already hitting only heads. Elemental on void is fire with a full range build since the handling is already pretty good.
I think I prefer tricorn over the other damage perks just because of the duration advantage. I'm good enough to get kills, but not so good that I usually do it without having my health shredded. I need the extra duration to get my health back while still having the damage perk. If you are better with positioning and combat awareness than me onslaught may be the play.
my adept summoner is cork skrew, high cal, zen, stability master work and a can choose between kill clip and ramapge , i have non adept heal clip onslaught and not very fond of onslaught
I got my pve roll (heal clip and incandescent) and my pvp (dramaticsway and target lock) im happy. ALSO im a warlock main but strand hunter is absolutely unchallenged in trials and i went flawless easy.
Why should I go for this over the Ros Arago IV? I got one with dynamic sway and onslaught, and I didn't have to play trials to get it. Both 600 rpm and void, so devour is useful.
I've been having a tough time being a solo player. Every once in a while I'll get a good team...😢 I'm not the best, but I atleast try to play with my team..
In layman terms. What's the difference between stability and handling? I "Think" Stability is the movement of the gun as you shoot etc? And Handling is the bloom? But what is it actually?
"I'm in disbelief at my teammates", literally sums up my entire weekend.
I was screaming earlier why am I carrying these potatoes 🥔 -some dude had an osteo striga as primary...why me lord 😂
@@elysiumcore Don't sleep on the osteo, you get you and another teammate with it and you can just spam it down lanes and the enemy just cant push. Sure it isn't meta but it can definitely be good and something that many people don't really know how to combat.
Zen onslaught has been mauling people all weekend for me
Zen onslaught is really amazing
This was the roll I was hoping for, but got dynamic sway with onslaught/rampage in the second column and a stability masterwork that has still felt pretty great.
@@michaelmartin9274 That's an awesome roll too, have fun!
@@michaelmartin9274Thats a distinction without a difference. If stability is what you want then both are meeting that need
Yea, same for me, and it wasn’t adept
Heal clip + kill clip is a super fun slaying perk combo. I won a 1v3 because one guy over pushed me after my teammates died, and I came around the corner fully healed with kill clips damage boost twice.
This roll also had Stability MW and Barrel, so it was pretty sticky for me. However zen moments anti flinch is nothing to scoff at, it's super hard for anyone to get you off target once you start the engagement with shots.
That's what I'm saying man. That combo to me(other than Heal Clip Onslaught) is the "Unknown God Roll" I won SO MANY 1v3s it's insane
This is the best roll and when the adept comes back around I will be getting it
Heal clip is amazing on summoner especially paired with onslaught
For both PVP and PVE honestly
Got myself a heal clip w incandescent/rampage and it melts in both.
Yep that’s the chase I’d say. 60% faster fire rate and a reload bump. Healing and putting out crazy DPS. I have it but with a reload master work and shit for the alternate perk slot.
@@gamerclips1882 The reason Onslaught is a great pair is due to it also giving you a reload speed bump, synergizing nice with Heal Clip. My absolute God roll would be Heal Clip w Incan/Onslaught but I'm def never going to get this lol
Shhhhhh don't tell them - man I went off with my heal clip / kill clip roll - dropped 1, reload half health back..melt his other tea mate ❤
Never played trials before but after watching you for a while, and with the new changes and additional options for Passages, I decided to finally give it it a go
It took a while to get into the swing of things (I love me some crucible) I got my first adept trials weapon with the passage of persistence and I got a
Heal Clip
Kill Clip
Adept Summoner
And I gotta say
IT ABSOLUTELY COOKS
Congrats on your first Adept! And for that to be your first roll, unreal man, I've played with over 20 Adept Rolls and I think Heal Clip Kill Clip(or Onslaught) is the "Unknown God Roll"
What I like most about your gameplay is that you put in even when you lose. It doesn't get edited every time you win. Very good and you play very well
I got 12 different summoner adept and man, i tried onslaught, rampage, zen moment and i got to say that heal clip with golden tricorn is my favorite, it makes me get so many kills
I have 9 different adept and that same one is the one I like the most
I finally got my godroll yesterday night. I got one with Small bore, Ricochet Rounds, Heal Clip and Onslaught with a Range Masterwork. I guess the stress of trials was worth it this weekend.
I just got a stability masterwork corkscrew, ricochet, heal clip, kill clip. Been digging it
My adept summoner dropped with
Corkscrew rifling - Ricochet rounds - Zen moment
Golden tricorn / onslaught
With a range master work & it melts everyone 🔥 went flawless 2 more times after my first card with it
I’ve been loving my zen/ dynamic sway and onslaught roles. Absolutely shreds
And yet, the Prosecutor still takes you out several times. That auto is just insane overpowered.
My God Roll Summoner is Hammer-Forged - Ricochet Rounds, Zen Moment and Kill Clip. That is the one I really want.
My Current Summoner Adept is Full Bore - Light Mag, Zen Moment and Kill Clip. I currently have 647 kills with it and its an easy 1v3 weapon. Get the first kill and you you will literally roll the other two people in quick succession before they can even pop off.
The Summoner was my favorite Auto Rifle way back when it first came out and now is my favorite Auto Rifle once more. It just makes me so happy during Trials clutching a 1 v 3 with it and the other dudes on the team go woah wat the hell was that haha.
Great video as always Jake. I don't know why I am just finding it 2 months later though lol.
Target lock I think it’s good for average people who can’t hit head shots. Onslaught is amazing pair that with zen moment it literally makes the next fight a win guaranteed.
As a titan main on prismatic using void super, elemental capacitor + target lock is a fuckin laser and wins every matchup for me.
Reminder that heal clip heals your teammates too
Indeed
Reminder that if you use heal clip you are garbage
@@ilySoulsyreminder that if you can’t hit your shots without zen moment you are garbage
@@ilySoulsyreminder your *garbage*
Haven’t been able to go flawless this week. It be hard for solos out there :(.
You can do don’t give up
Been impossible for me. I can't get more than a single win on a mercy card.
Even the Passage of Persistence is very difficult. You waste a large amount of time when you are playing with random teams and you alternate a win, then a loss. It almost makes getting that 7th win super difficult unless you get a lucky 2 win streak every once in a while. It definitely is hard for solos out there
@@eoesceejayI made it roughly for 3 hrs, it's everything depends of your luck, but with new card it's easier.
The best thing which Bungie made)
Passage of persistence took me all day to get the adept drop but it felt so good to get my first adept
Been using heal clip + onslaught been my favorite so far
Subsistence one slaught is probably nuts
It is 😊
Jake’s trying to avoid creating a meta. 😂😂😂
Target lock is by far the best.
I feel if you are going to wormhusk, heal clip is underrated. I think you can get the stability you need JUST from the base perks of the gun. Heal Clip + Onslaught goes HARD especially since heal clip will help protect you OR prep you for the next engagement. Having heal clip + onslaught, getting a kill, and dodging into a wormhusk reload could STACK heal clip and Wormhusk and make you nearly fully healed for the following engagement.
I like heal clip and onslaught for those insanely quick kills and recoveries on top of that. However, I don't blame people for having a more neutral game roll.
Kill clip needs to self refresh while the perk is still active if you get a kill and reload again. All other kill base perks do, direct comparison is multikill clip
I have a dynamic/kill clip with stability masterwork that has put in some serious work in control
Another thing to keep in mind is that, onslaught timer could possibley increased if it becomes exhausted in TFS
Perpetual and onslaught has not disappointed. Helps with the stability. Saved a few rounds with it
I got trapped in that corner too. Got pushed by 2 enemies and died, while teammates took a while to push in.
Extended barrel, high cal, heal clip, onslaught and range masterwork on my first drop 😮
Jake you mentioned Heal Clip is better for aggressive style guns, if you get Heal Clip/Onslaught you might want to try it out. Onslaught doesn't just up the RPM it also increases reload speed (it's not stated on the in-game description) which helps with using Heal Clip, and could end up leading to it being more aggressive after the first kill. Just food for thought
Heal clip TTT gets you the stability perk and a health perk. Very nice. Didn't get it adept but it's my favorite role
I have a hammer forged, high cal, perpetual motion kill clip with stability masterwork and adept range that works pretty well, 2 seconds after moving getting 10 stability handling and reload then 8 seconds later it doubles and kill clip with radiant is really nice
I got a Heal clip and Target lock/Onslaught. It been clapping cheeks for me this weekend. It works because I am an aggressive player so having onslaught and healclip really works in my favor. Plus it's not really that unstable of a rifle even sub 60 stability. I think it's all preference because I've gunned down and been gunned down by other rolls as well.
This onslaught summoner meta reminds me of prenerf desperado messenger lmao
People are gravitating towards zen moment target lock, but because of this eventually target lock will see another nerf, so have a few more rolls with different in slot perks whether it be rampage, kill clip, golden tricorn, or onslaught is a really good idea
Jake is right about zen, it’s a must have slot and then maybe elemental
Awesome video man love to watch em
I've tried over 15-20 Adept Rolls, and Heal Clip Kill Clip(or Onslaught) are ABSOLUTELY the best 6v6 Rolls. For Trials, I think Zen Moment could potentially be the best perk, but by no means do I consider it the "end all" perk
Heal clip and onslaught is goated
Especially for pve it is insane
Sitting back and gunning people," weapons are the best kind of weapons to play support with. The heal clip doesn't just work on yourself. You also grant 1X cure to your teammates which will proc any abilities that give you ability regeneration for supporting your teammates.
Target lock on 600s is nasty AF.
I use a Void subclass too. I love Elemental Capacitor on Void.
I dont know what to put in the comments, BTW how are you so sweaty at pvp
your parents didn’t take you coming out well, huh
@cspearman362 you have no room to talk, you weeb.
@@cspearman362 nu uh first is too bland or awesome video also why so mad
@@cspearman362interesting
@@WitnessOfWafflesI smell a passage of persistence on you
I got heal clip/kill clip with range MW, pretty happy with it all things considered
The number one 5/5 on this wep is hands down Heal clip + Onslaught. Due to the amount of synergy, utility aka team healing plus dps output in conjunction with quick recovery. And going as far as being a complete viable pve weapon meta as well. All in all it’s a 5/5 pvp and pve weapon. Second alternative perk from heal clip is Zen moment.
However, a worthy note that makes heal clip work better is Onslaught… due to causing people to flinch which would negate Zen moment users. But using heal clip without onslaught would not feel the same. In my experience after getting my first kill, I would heal to full plus x1 onslaught and cause flinch city on the opponent and then create a cycle of recovery and more flinch with x2 OS and so on.. yes Zen moment may help you win the first fight, but Heal clip with OS will literally cause you to wipe the whole team.
Onslaught dps/flinch plus!!! Reload don’t forget it also increases reload!! perk helps heal clip continue recovering and then heal clip allows onslaught to keep going and if you have this combo you will have a lot of x3 OS interaction and just mauling away through bodies.
The amount of times I've seen this damn gun and it melting my face off caused me to take a break, I really need to get one but man I have this stupid complex when it comes to trials and that is I fear ruining the card for my teammates.
16:59 the montage music starts and bro is like „im going in“
After farming for a bit on my 7 win card and not picking up any zen moment or DSR rolls I settled on 2 drops. Heal Clip/Kill Clip and a Subsistence/Onslaught. 2nd one could use a better 1st perk but I manage pretty well on MnK. The first one feels good to take a fight and get the kill, Heal off HC and then take a second fight with KC going. Again im on MnK so not having the Stability or Handling perks isnt as big a deal for me.
Onslaught is a perk recommended for aggressive players, I’m telling you it will do wonders 😭 my vault is full of summoners
Do hammer forged barrel or extended barrel, ricochet rounds, zen moment or heal clip and onslaught. I find I almost never miss or die with hammer forged barrel, ricochet rounds, zen moment and onslaught for PVP. For PVE extended barrel, ricochet rounds, heal clip, and kill clip is the way to go. I rip apart mini bosses and even to heavy damage to bosses went I'm out of heavy ammo for my hammerhead
I’ve been loving my heal clip onslaught
I knew my elemental/onslaught was fire 😎
Im rocking fullbore with tap the trigger and elemental on void and range mw with adept range mod, its super rangy and its ultra stable its insane
This thing is a monster with zen and tricorn. Target lock is a waste on autos especially if you're already hitting only heads. Elemental on void is fire with a full range build since the handling is already pretty good.
Targetlock is kinda nice against over shields. And we all know theirs a lot of that
I got zen, and rampage range masterwork absolutely slaps
Thank you for actually trying the rolls out and showing them.
I got a zen/onslaught roll but I haven't used it yet. However, I did use a zen/golden tricorn Prosecutor to get it. 😅
I think I prefer tricorn over the other damage perks just because of the duration advantage. I'm good enough to get kills, but not so good that I usually do it without having my health shredded. I need the extra duration to get my health back while still having the damage perk. If you are better with positioning and combat awareness than me onslaught may be the play.
If they make it so overflow worked on picking up ammo from any source, then my roll from witch queen will still be viable.
summoner god rolls acquired.. what a weekend
I really want Zen Onslaught. I have Heal Clip Onslaught which I'm loving.
@7:53 got worked 😂 heal clip for the win
my adept summoner is cork skrew, high cal, zen, stability master work and a can choose between kill clip and ramapge , i have non adept heal clip onslaught and not very fond of onslaught
target lock reduces the amount of headshots you need for any resil below tier 8
21:28 😂😂😂 I’ve responded like that a few times this weekend myself
I got trapped in that same corner. If you dodge into it, youre screwed
I got my pve roll (heal clip and incandescent) and my pvp (dramaticsway and target lock) im happy. ALSO im a warlock main but strand hunter is absolutely unchallenged in trials and i went flawless easy.
Why should I go for this over the Ros Arago IV? I got one with dynamic sway and onslaught, and I didn't have to play trials to get it. Both 600 rpm and void, so devour is useful.
Bc you'll be able to enhance perks on it and it's adept. Ros is a world drop anyways so it's actually way easier getting a good summoner than ros.
Farmed and got a Smallbore, Ricochet, Zen Moment, KC/Onslaught with a range MW. DADDY shit kept me at a 2.82 this week after farming 😭👌👌
Thank you. Sick of the copium that “target lock is good” 😂
i got zen with tap the trigger AND kill clip. I guess i can use it for my bad days and for my slay days lol
The best part about onslaught is you don't have to reload
Target lock, golden tri or kill clip with zen or dynamic with high cal or acc
Im gonna say heal clip onslaught the ultimate here hands down no competition. Shit is nasty and probably needing a nerf
I tried to go solo flawless. Made it to 6 wins and was already down on my mercies and lost. So close!
I've been having a tough time being a solo player. Every once in a while I'll get a good team...😢 I'm not the best, but I atleast try to play with my team..
The reason why Target Lock is good on Summoner is bc it indirectly pushes out the range as long as you are accurate
That was perfect drop on final chest 🤩😍
I got a zen onslaught and it's so much fun
Zen onslaught is banging
He just dismantled a gun that I will never shoot
Icarus dashed into the same corner..corner bros.
El tiempo que llevas y tapas los perks con tu imagen... -.-
Thoughts on an old school perpet, capacitor adept (no longer attainable). Would paste a pic here but I can't cos youtube
Elemental on a void hunter for sure!!
I wonder if enhanced onslaught will add time in TFS?
I wish this gun had the iron sights like doctrine had in d1... not really a fan of the scope on it
Golden tricorn is nice since it doesnt require reloading
Id also suggest heal clip + onslaught for pve. Got one with a reload masterwork and it's an add clearing MACHINE. Calus Maxi Tool 😂
i have a subsistence incandescent roll for pve
@@adub20able that's definitely not bad. I would use that roll on seasons where solar isn't featured on the artifact
In layman terms. What's the difference between stability and handling? I "Think" Stability is the movement of the gun as you shoot etc? And Handling is the bloom? But what is it actually?
Handling is weapon ready speed and Ads.
Stability is what keeps the weapon stable and reduces incoming flinch.
Honestly believe Target lock is pointless on autos its pretty much the same for Prosecutor
healclip+onslaught its nice also
Awesome video bro. Why you always sniff your fingers though?
Targetlock is good if ur going up against overshields
I play mnk and I got a heal clip kill clip with 80 range and it is a laser. First game with it in qp I had 54 kills not defeats but kills lol
I got a zen/kill clip that feels really nice but sadly it's a handling mw
13:02 It’s Sunday dawg. Practically Monday.
Why does this gun not have the adept glow? I have one and it doesn’t glow either
so what heavy is the play now in trials and crucible ? rockets ?
I got Elemental cap and golden tricon/ incandescent least for me its the roll i wanted it also melts
What is the shader he used to make that blue and gold on the summoner