One gripe. The 2 car rule is only for manufacturers not teams. If teams were needing to run 2 cars a peice we’d double up Protons 963 as well which there is no space for. Lamborghini and Isotta can sell a second car to teams like Prema and Vector sport to meet that minimum 2 car per OEM requirement which already exists in LMGT3
I feel like Porsche sells because they built the better car and they deserve to be rewarded for that, with sales. LMH cars are way too expensive compared to LMDh cars so that was always gonna be a hard sell. Saying all of this. I feel like there should be an F1 style limit of the amount of customers you can have, to maybe 3 customer team's max or 6 customer cars. It's not fair to have Porsche get too much numbers advantage for less investment than the LMH cars.
@@purwantiallan5089 Unfortunately, Jerez and Jarama are both too small for 40 cars of that speed. If you want a spanish track the bests options are Motorland Aragon and Circuito de España (fusion of Valladolid and Almeria tracks).
They want to but they thinking about Team Logistics and Budget (probably because back then Some Manufacture have to skip certain event because of their budget). And about Silverstone, WEC itself want to Silverstone join to 2025 Season (but maybe because of team budget thing, they have delayed that).
@@rajakozen5678 Silverstone management only cares about F1 right now, and they wondering why no fans want to come and buy their fcking expensive tickets...
@@rajakozen5678Another factor is the organizers prioritizing F1 (understandably as the $$$ is far more significant) but a shame that they don’t broaden their scopes. Hoping for tracks like Sepang, maybe Nurburgring GP considering the pit infrastructure is designed to accommodate large venues with upwards of 160 cars during the N24, another previous venue like Mexico City could be great, considering where COTA is on the calendar as well it could be a good way to add a race without being too taxing on the teams and logistics side of WEC, plus with some small changes the race could be held within a week or so of the F1 weekend, if that helps with logistics on the hands of the organizers. Le Castellet I think would be a really cool track to see this era of WEC race at, although it may not seem the best idea to have two races in France when you take into account the limited events on the calendar, I think the tracks wide and open nature would work really well for WEC, also considering it’s one of the larger circuits, and passing would likely be much better compared to the narrow windier tracks like Imola. It could help having the two races in France like that for transport and logistics reasons too if they are put back to back, perhaps the ELMS race gets stacked onto it, again for logistics reasons + you have lots of teams competing in WEC also in the regional series. Some far out ones are Brands Hatch but the infrastructure at least right now is not suited to accommodate a WEC event, but the track, while I doubt the racing would be the greatest, I think it would be really entertaining. Sebring if in an ideal world they could run the WEC weekend with the IMSA weekend like they did in 2023. And to be really biased and delusional, Laguna Seca as it’s my home track, if I could get to a WEC race by car in under 2 hours I don’t think I’d care how much it’d cost. I attended the IMSA weekend in May and it was amazing. From both a fan experience as well as the racing, obviously the infrastructure would need a bit of work to comfortably fit the WEC grid, especially if they continue to expand the grid size with new manufacturers staking their interest in the regulations and end up going along with expanding some of the existing pit infrastructure such was proposed. As much as I love IMSA, the grid - especially in the GTP category feels a tad bit lacking when you compare it to the grid of WEC and the variety of cars you have there. Also a track like China-Shanghai would be lovely, long straights but twisty, long, tyre monching corners with great overtaking spots I think would provide a great spectacle of racing, plus the previous racing experience there, not with any of these cars, but the venue at least will be somewhat familiar to WEC. Spent a good like 10 minutes figuring this rant out based on a singular video and comment. jeez
The calendar stagnation is a shame, the series does need at least one more round, and despite the fact that I am from the UK I'm afraid a lot of the people in the comments begging for a Silverstone round are gonna find that is about as likely as a round at Whilton Mill! Even our national series are struggling to find a reason to go to the least friendly track in Britain, you guys would be better off trying to push a reluctant MSV to make the necessary changes to host it at Donington Park. I could see a round in Germany, but I think a lot of their tracks would struggle a bit today, so a Spanish or Portugese round might be the way and I have to say I'm surprised Imola is the Italian home for the series going forward considering the pile up this year heavily indicated that it's a bit congested, and the place is about the same width as Donington! Maybe with Hyundai's entry, you'll see the asian tour expand to two rounds and China will appear (was going to say Korea but I'm not sure that place is even used anymore)
i think the WEC broadcasting needs to be more accessible internationally. I love wec but i’ve never watched a race. i have no way to. Also possibly a slight calendar expansion from 8 to 10-11 races. I just find the calendar really weird where there’s a race back to back weeks but then nothing for 2 months. have a race every 2-3 weeks, additionally include circuits such malaysia or monza. I think Sepang would really add to the class and the racing. Show the cars abilities
"LMP2 is still a popular category"?? To whom - to the entrants, no doubt. But to spectators? Endurance has to be a challenge between manufacturers, not a promotion single type category.
As regular fan who has been to 15 WEC races until now, yes the LMP2s are still awesome. Just a shame it's all Oreca but the sound is still awesome and the racing always close. Most unpredictable class at Le Mans.
Lmp2 was my favourite category just because it was a tightly packed intermediate class between LMP1/Hypercar and the GTs. They always had action and the number of experienced drives in it made for exiting races. Maybe it was because they had the same car.
As far as I know LMP2 still is open for any LMP2 chassis manufacturer. There used to be 4 different ones competing. In the end everyone turned to Oreca. Except for one team in IMSA, which came back and competes with a Ligier. Don't know about ELMS.
Two car entry is not what I wanted. What I wanted is diversity. It's okay if only single car effort. Team could concentrate in just ONE car, & pay less driver & the money could be used elsewhere in/of car development. If WEC wants to increase the volume, do not use TWO CAR mandatory, but cost cap & fair BoP, so even privateer team could compete to the top/podium. IMSA doing better in BoP, all competitor won at least once or podiums. EDIT : Lets not forget LMP2. For me, kinda boring, with only Oreca 07 & Gibson engine. Come on, at least two or three different chassis, but keep the same engine.
It's not really correct/misleading how the two car rule is presented in the video. Privateers will still be able to run single car entries. It's only the manufacturer backed teams that require two car entries.
The 4 different chassis are still present in LMP2, it's just that the Oreca 07 is better so teams don't chose the others. There is still one Ligier LMP2 in IMSA though
the calendar is a surprise for me. also the 2 car rule... It could be a bit of a deterrant from manufacturers who may have been on the verge of joining, but now has to reconsider or may not even join because of the increased running costs.
I'd like to see them return to Silverstone. Firstly its a fantastic circuit with great facilities and gets huge, passionate, and knowledgeable crowds. Secondly it is one of the most relevant countries for the drivers, cars, engines, aero etc etc that goes into these cars. Please stop chasing sports-washed money from dodgy regimes in the far east.
Why they don't have Silverstone on calendar is beyond me. It is the W-E-C, and you don't have a race in the UK? I've heard in the past that it's the fault of those that run Silverstone or Brexit, or something else. I love seeing racing on that track, so much speed, excellent opportunities to pass, and always great racing. Is there a good reason?
Really worry about Isotta, they have stated 2 entry on term of technical there no issue but run the program for another car is costly and they really need 1 more customer to run their 2nd car
Yeah that might hurt them. But from what I'm reading there are other teams interested in running the car, so if they can get one to field a second entry, they are golden. If not, they can always switch to GTP in IMSA until they are ready to make that second entry happen.
@@ceeinfiniti1389 they cant go IMSA same story as Glick and Vanwall where IMSA require 2500 production car a year so thats why it only have factory team there
The rule to be required to enter more than one car is a bit harsh, considering teams like Vanwall, Isotta, and Glickenhaus which are more private companies/teams, dont have the funds really to run more than one car. (With the exception of Glickenhaus)
As much as I want it back, GTE is pretty much dead. Compared to the nine different manufacturers in GT3, GTE only had four when it was discontinued. As much as I despise GT3 and how it's literally everywhere, it's likely going to keep sports car racing alive.
its 2 cars pair team or 2 cars from the same manufacture can race? i mean, take Proton for example this year was running 1 car but there where other porches, will this mean that proton wont race?
The 2 car mandate is a bit of a double edged sword. On the one hand it means more cars racing in the marquee class. But then you have the likes of Aston Martin, Lamborghini and smaller manufacturers like Isota Fraschini and Vanwall reconsidering their entry or unable to gain entry to the series, giving it an unappealing elitist vibe.
They may as well give HYPERCAR its own races without any multiclass with the exception of Le Mans. By 2026-2027 it's looking like almost 15 manufacturers will be in the mix, that's 30 damn cars in just one class, how can you squeeze two other classes in between that. They should run lmp2 and lmgt3 together for races at that point.
They should change BoP back to the way it was in the ruglations until last year. Because its clearly a big no no to some marques all the time. It should be about performance over a lap only. But it ains directly to some cars advantages. And thats BS. Because it kills the essence of the whole "we built unique cars that are different" vibe. Also its simply unfair to some, while others clearly get favored since they entered just because they bring a lot of fans. Its becoming a show more and more. Its an epic one for sure, but if you know a little more than the regular fan, some races results really have a bitter taste and lets you think about stop watching...
Not just these changes,I think ACO should also have to find some ways to make teams and manufacturers make more profits,sure the good news is that LMH/LMDh rulesets is extend to 2028/29,but even with BoP, cost will still gonna rise anyway. If they can't find a way to let the teams to make more profits,manufacturers will still gonna left the series and then WEC remains in the boom-bust cycle all over again
FIA is binding F2 is more important than then all racing forms the WEC should have been thought of for one canada has had been given a first chance CTMP instead of COTA and Mexico has hosted WEC only once dont you think we should run Mexico again Will sportscar ACO Le-mans think of the performance of the sportscar racing the new hydrogen era
The inventors of motorsports will once again turn around in their graves since instead of going back to real motorsports they are overkilling sportsprototype racing.
Too much complicated rules, too much heavy cars, too much safety cars, too much chicanes = boring championship. Get back to Group C and I'll come back at Spa, Le Mans, Monza, etc.
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One gripe. The 2 car rule is only for manufacturers not teams. If teams were needing to run 2 cars a peice we’d double up Protons 963 as well which there is no space for. Lamborghini and Isotta can sell a second car to teams like Prema and Vector sport to meet that minimum 2 car per OEM requirement which already exists in LMGT3
I think that factory teams has to have 2 cars + optional customer teams. So Isotta would race with 2 cars
I feel like Porsche sells because they built the better car and they deserve to be rewarded for that, with sales. LMH cars are way too expensive compared to LMDh cars so that was always gonna be a hard sell. Saying all of this. I feel like there should be an F1 style limit of the amount of customers you can have, to maybe 3 customer team's max or 6 customer cars. It's not fair to have Porsche get too much numbers advantage for less investment than the LMH cars.
@@greg_63Isotta Fraschini should have at least 3 cars.
That's a relief. For a moment, there, it seemed like FIA was saying "Hey, hypercar's going well. Let's find a way to end that."
I would like to see Silverstone and Nurburgring added to the calendar to make it a 10 race season.
Adding Jerez and Jarama could be very interesting too.
Bathurst
@@purwantiallan5089 Unfortunately, Jerez and Jarama are both too small for 40 cars of that speed. If you want a spanish track the bests options are Motorland Aragon and Circuito de España (fusion of Valladolid and Almeria tracks).
@@ShaunfromAustraliaNo way that would work. Plus we already have the 12h of Bathurst for Gt cars.
@@arbazann yeah we have a group that goes each year as an annual pilgrimage 😄
I feel like the only thing they should do
at least two more races like Silverstone and any other track they want
A 10 race calendar
They want to but they thinking about Team Logistics and Budget (probably because back then Some Manufacture have to skip certain event because of their budget).
And about Silverstone, WEC itself want to Silverstone join to 2025 Season (but maybe because of team budget thing, they have delayed that).
@@rajakozen5678 Silverstone management only cares about F1 right now, and they wondering why no fans want to come and buy their fcking expensive tickets...
There are enough Hypercars to race at Monaco, maybe for 2 or 3 hours at max.
@@rajakozen5678Another factor is the organizers prioritizing F1 (understandably as the $$$ is far more significant) but a shame that they don’t broaden their scopes. Hoping for tracks like Sepang, maybe Nurburgring GP considering the pit infrastructure is designed to accommodate large venues with upwards of 160 cars during the N24, another previous venue like Mexico City could be great, considering where COTA is on the calendar as well it could be a good way to add a race without being too taxing on the teams and logistics side of WEC, plus with some small changes the race could be held within a week or so of the F1 weekend, if that helps with logistics on the hands of the organizers. Le Castellet I think would be a really cool track to see this era of WEC race at, although it may not seem the best idea to have two races in France when you take into account the limited events on the calendar, I think the tracks wide and open nature would work really well for WEC, also considering it’s one of the larger circuits, and passing would likely be much better compared to the narrow windier tracks like Imola. It could help having the two races in France like that for transport and logistics reasons too if they are put back to back, perhaps the ELMS race gets stacked onto it, again for logistics reasons + you have lots of teams competing in WEC also in the regional series. Some far out ones are Brands Hatch but the infrastructure at least right now is not suited to accommodate a WEC event, but the track, while I doubt the racing would be the greatest, I think it would be really entertaining. Sebring if in an ideal world they could run the WEC weekend with the IMSA weekend like they did in 2023. And to be really biased and delusional, Laguna Seca as it’s my home track, if I could get to a WEC race by car in under 2 hours I don’t think I’d care how much it’d cost. I attended the IMSA weekend in May and it was amazing. From both a fan experience as well as the racing, obviously the infrastructure would need a bit of work to comfortably fit the WEC grid, especially if they continue to expand the grid size with new manufacturers staking their interest in the regulations and end up going along with expanding some of the existing pit infrastructure such was proposed. As much as I love IMSA, the grid - especially in the GTP category feels a tad bit lacking when you compare it to the grid of WEC and the variety of cars you have there. Also a track like China-Shanghai would be lovely, long straights but twisty, long, tyre monching corners with great overtaking spots I think would provide a great spectacle of racing, plus the previous racing experience there, not with any of these cars, but the venue at least will be somewhat familiar to WEC.
Spent a good like 10 minutes figuring this rant out based on a singular video and comment. jeez
The calendar stagnation is a shame, the series does need at least one more round, and despite the fact that I am from the UK I'm afraid a lot of the people in the comments begging for a Silverstone round are gonna find that is about as likely as a round at Whilton Mill! Even our national series are struggling to find a reason to go to the least friendly track in Britain, you guys would be better off trying to push a reluctant MSV to make the necessary changes to host it at Donington Park.
I could see a round in Germany, but I think a lot of their tracks would struggle a bit today, so a Spanish or Portugese round might be the way and I have to say I'm surprised Imola is the Italian home for the series going forward considering the pile up this year heavily indicated that it's a bit congested, and the place is about the same width as Donington! Maybe with Hyundai's entry, you'll see the asian tour expand to two rounds and China will appear (was going to say Korea but I'm not sure that place is even used anymore)
i think the WEC broadcasting needs to be more accessible internationally. I love wec but i’ve never watched a race. i have no way to. Also possibly a slight calendar expansion from 8 to 10-11 races. I just find the calendar really weird where there’s a race back to back weeks but then nothing for 2 months. have a race every 2-3 weeks, additionally include circuits such malaysia or monza. I think Sepang would really add to the class and the racing. Show the cars abilities
"LMP2 is still a popular category"?? To whom - to the entrants, no doubt. But to spectators? Endurance has to be a challenge between manufacturers, not a promotion single type category.
As regular fan who has been to 15 WEC races until now, yes the LMP2s are still awesome. Just a shame it's all Oreca but the sound is still awesome and the racing always close. Most unpredictable class at Le Mans.
Lmp2 was my favourite category just because it was a tightly packed intermediate class between LMP1/Hypercar and the GTs. They always had action and the number of experienced drives in it made for exiting races. Maybe it was because they had the same car.
the really poor tv coverage doesnt help either
I still like LMP2 but I loved it when it was multiple chassis competing
As far as I know LMP2 still is open for any LMP2 chassis manufacturer. There used to be 4 different ones competing. In the end everyone turned to Oreca. Except for one team in IMSA, which came back and competes with a Ligier. Don't know about ELMS.
12h of Silverstone
Or 24 hours of Silverstone or Fuji.
Noise regulations thwart this before its even promoted. its why most endurance series, alongside cost, have moved from silverstone
Two car entry is not what I wanted.
What I wanted is diversity.
It's okay if only single car effort. Team could concentrate in just ONE car, & pay less driver & the money could be used elsewhere in/of car development.
If WEC wants to increase the volume, do not use TWO CAR mandatory, but cost cap & fair BoP, so even privateer team could compete to the top/podium.
IMSA doing better in BoP, all competitor won at least once or podiums.
EDIT : Lets not forget LMP2. For me, kinda boring, with only Oreca 07 & Gibson engine. Come on, at least two or three different chassis, but keep the same engine.
It's not really correct/misleading how the two car rule is presented in the video. Privateers will still be able to run single car entries. It's only the manufacturer backed teams that require two car entries.
The 4 different chassis are still present in LMP2, it's just that the Oreca 07 is better so teams don't chose the others. There is still one Ligier LMP2 in IMSA though
@@casscroute8706Oreca 11 is also announced to be ready for use in WEC sometime in the future.
@@tropfenlike GTE AM in FANATEC GTWC Europe?
the calendar is a surprise for me. also the 2 car rule... It could be a bit of a deterrant from manufacturers who may have been on the verge of joining, but now has to reconsider or may not even join because of the increased running costs.
entering with two cars is majorly beneficial and every manufacturer knows it.
your channel is the perfect blend of fun and information!
WEC also starts to get better and better.😊
I'd like to see them return to Silverstone. Firstly its a fantastic circuit with great facilities and gets huge, passionate, and knowledgeable crowds. Secondly it is one of the most relevant countries for the drivers, cars, engines, aero etc etc that goes into these cars.
Please stop chasing sports-washed money from dodgy regimes in the far east.
I don’t like requiring two cars per manufacturer.
Why they don't have Silverstone on calendar is beyond me. It is the W-E-C, and you don't have a race in the UK? I've heard in the past that it's the fault of those that run Silverstone or Brexit, or something else. I love seeing racing on that track, so much speed, excellent opportunities to pass, and always great racing. Is there a good reason?
this isn’t a WEC issue. it’s a Silverstone issue. Silverstone’s management are a pack of w⚓️’s.
Pushing the homologation date to 2028 is a really good move.
hell yeah two lambos!
This channel is great! keep em coming!
Thank you!
Really worry about Isotta, they have stated 2 entry on term of technical there no issue but run the program for another car is costly and they really need 1 more customer to run their 2nd car
Yeah that might hurt them. But from what I'm reading there are other teams interested in running the car, so if they can get one to field a second entry, they are golden.
If not, they can always switch to GTP in IMSA until they are ready to make that second entry happen.
@@ceeinfiniti1389 they cant go IMSA same story as Glick and Vanwall where IMSA require 2500 production car a year so thats why it only have factory team there
Great video fella. Entertaining and informative. Keep it up.
Needs to come to Silverstone
And also Bugatti Circuit (not Circuit de la Sarthe) and Suzuka.
Why Imola it is a bad Track for Racing
Monza>>> Imola
I think because of Ferrari. They have to race in Italy. Monza, from what I understand, is going through some construction/re-development.
@@dbkfrogkaty1 but they didn't add it next year calendar
@@dbkfrogkaty1it maybe a very long process.
The rule to be required to enter more than one car is a bit harsh, considering teams like Vanwall, Isotta, and Glickenhaus which are more private companies/teams, dont have the funds really to run more than one car. (With the exception of Glickenhaus)
Spec series lmp2 needs replacement. Or run as a junior class.
Like LMP3 or LMP2 PRO & AM like IMSA did with GTD PRO & GTD?
Silverstone still missing.
Hopefully, we could see it return and also adding Tokyo Expressway Circuit.
Just wish we had a silverstone race and ghey actualky reported on gt3 classes on the radio broadcasts instead of 80% hypercar
2025 WEC Season could see the return of Vanwall and Glickenhaus.
What about doing a 24h at Bathurst?
I wonder if lmdh will allow EVO packages or will manufacturers have to develop all new cars
Bring back Silverstone and Brands Hatch to WEC Calendar....😢
wish they would bring sebring back
Where do you get your production music?
i wish they would do what imsa used to do and have a gte class and a gt3 class
As much as I want it back, GTE is pretty much dead. Compared to the nine different manufacturers in GT3, GTE only had four when it was discontinued. As much as I despise GT3 and how it's literally everywhere, it's likely going to keep sports car racing alive.
its 2 cars pair team or 2 cars from the same manufacture can race? i mean, take Proton for example this year was running 1 car but there where other porches, will this mean that proton wont race?
i think that privateer entry will only have enter one car
Its 2 car mininum for the Factory team....
privateer doesnt need to enter 2nd cars...
The 2 car mandate is a bit of a double edged sword. On the one hand it means more cars racing in the marquee class. But then you have the likes of Aston Martin, Lamborghini and smaller manufacturers like Isota Fraschini and Vanwall reconsidering their entry or unable to gain entry to the series, giving it an unappealing elitist vibe.
Safety car procedures need looking at
They may as well give HYPERCAR its own races without any multiclass with the exception of Le Mans. By 2026-2027 it's looking like almost 15 manufacturers will be in the mix, that's 30 damn cars in just one class, how can you squeeze two other classes in between that. They should run lmp2 and lmgt3 together for races at that point.
More races would be nice but i know this is a lot of asking vs something like F1 for example
They should change BoP back to the way it was in the ruglations until last year. Because its clearly a big no no to some marques all the time. It should be about performance over a lap only. But it ains directly to some cars advantages. And thats BS. Because it kills the essence of the whole "we built unique cars that are different" vibe. Also its simply unfair to some, while others clearly get favored since they entered just because they bring a lot of fans. Its becoming a show more and more. Its an epic one for sure, but if you know a little more than the regular fan, some races results really have a bitter taste and lets you think about stop watching...
BoP has no place in prototype racing at all. It's against the whole idea behind it. FIA & ACO have turned it into an artificial show aka a farce.
@@armorgeddon agreed
not a fan of double car only.
Video: “The changes.” Very first point: “The calendar, no changes.” 🙄😂
100 dB limit for GT3 as well
lmp2 is popular said noone
maybe not as much with fans, but it's very popular with teams
Mozna > Imola
Not just these changes,I think ACO should also have to find some ways to make teams and manufacturers make more profits,sure the good news is that LMH/LMDh rulesets is extend to 2028/29,but even with BoP, cost will still gonna rise anyway. If they can't find a way to let the teams to make more profits,manufacturers will still gonna left the series and then WEC remains in the boom-bust cycle all over again
FIA is binding F2 is more important than then all racing forms the WEC should have been thought of for one canada has had been given a first chance CTMP instead of COTA and Mexico has hosted WEC only once dont you think we should run Mexico again
Will sportscar ACO Le-mans think of the performance of the sportscar racing the new hydrogen era
LMP2 has been boring for spectators since it became a spec class
The inventors of motorsports will once again turn around in their graves since instead of going back to real motorsports they are overkilling sportsprototype racing.
WEC is the greatest championship in the world and you won’t accept it 😴😴😴
Too much complicated rules, too much heavy cars, too much safety cars, too much chicanes = boring championship. Get back to Group C and I'll come back at Spa, Le Mans, Monza, etc.
Well BoP effects about the weight of the cars.
LMP2 blows chunks. Is a spec Gibson arse kissing exercise. 😘
Another rule change: LMGT3 will be limited to 100dB from 2025 onwoards wich means that fans at the track doesnt really hear those cars anymore🥲