I studied music at university with a guy who was tone deaf, truly. He used an electronic tuner to tune his guitar, and essentially failed all the listening/singing portions of our classes. And he was an INCREDIBLE guitar player. Wild.
@@alphabettical1 I likened it to playing a drum set. Lots of distinct sounds, you can definitely really get into a drum beat, you can distinguish different beats and fills, have favourites and ones you don't like... But then when it comes to singing, everybody but you can beatbox
Singing is one of my life's joys. I would be crushed if I lost my singing voice. You've got to sing for yourself, no one else matters. As Joe Raposo once wrote: "Don't worry if it's not good enough for anyone else to hear, just sing, sing a song." We all have a song to sing. Sing yours loud and strong!😊
Take comment as encouragement to view your singing less critically, cause your voice represents who you are (It's the way you make your self heard) and even if it's not used to carrying a melody, that doesn't mean it can't. It means it's not had the training yet. You might also consider giving it training if your situation alowes. Voice lessons do work.
"And if there comes a day when my fingers dont work, or my voice loses sound, gives me grief, gives me hurt, well I swear on that day when I lose whats worthwhile, from that day forth, I never shall smile"
Don't worry. If you don't have perfect pitch or technique, a vocal coach will be your best bet. I see one. They help. Not only is my pitch waaaaaaaay better than it used to be (there was a dark time when I didn't even sing in the right octave...), but my breathing, positioning and tone as well. If you really love to sing, and that's the path you want to take, see one. You'll feel much better knowing you can improve.
There were two kids in my high school who'd taken years of voice lessons and were still horrible, but kept insisting on singing at people because, having worked so hard at it, they thought they were great. I wonder what part of the brain is responsible for that.
I used to sing under the shower when I was young until my mom once thought our cats are fighting and screaming in the yard when in reality it was me singing 😅
it starts with 1 cat meowing but then its longer then the normal meow its extended and it doesnt sound friendly, if ur close enough you can also hear some hissing but its not going to make much more noise
@@leagueaddict8357 I've heard many fights of street cats. It's either rather quiet, like hissing and scratching and biting, or 5 minutes of intense meowing and done...
I actually knew someone who has this disorder but LOVED to sing! He seriously could not understand why people didn't like to listen to him "sing." He had a vocal coach attempt to work with him. The coach played a note on the piano and asked him to repeat the note. He never came close. The coach tried this sever times, and he could never get it - BUT he thought he was getting it! So sad!
I have ADHD, got Diagnosed with 27. Hearing different instruments, melodys, separating it was impossible to me. The first time I tooked ADHD meds was eye opening. I could suddenly differentiate the different instrument, seperating it, meds allowed to learn this skill. Now I can do this without medication
Alex Greene there’s one part of his hair on the upper left (his right) that’s distracting to me at just one angle. It’s like round smooth, small angle, round smooth. I’m trying to laugh at myself for being smol-kine upset at a little break in a pattern.
I have my great-grandmother’s piano from when she was a child (early 1900’s). It has a beautiful tone, but it has been tuned to B flat instead of C. When my parents brought it home in the 1970’s, the piano tuner said it would break several of the strings to bring it up to C and he hated to change the tone of it. So, B flat. When asked to pick out every C on a musical test, I always completely failed because I would pick out every B flat instead. I don’t know if that has affected my singing or not. It’s not pretty. I still love to sing, though, just when others aren’t around.
While I'm trying to sing, I can't recognize how much inconsistent my voice/notes are. Then in the recordign I can hear EVERYTHING....and it's awful!!! It's like looking it with a microscope, you see all the trembling and voice cracks and weird noises at fine detail. So I sing when nobody's home 😭
I have been singing karaoke about once a week (and it used to be much more often like 3-4 nights a week) and I have gone from being a terrible singer to a mediocre singer. There are some songs that I am able to do an okay job on, but whatever. I enjoy it, the people in the bars I go to don't hate it, and it is fun. Everyone should sing if they have fun doing it. And even if you don't sing, karaoke crowds are among the most friendly and accepting people in the world.
"they may have simply already forgotten the note" Damn son, you got me there. Worst part is, I can hear the freaking correct note in my head... But the brain to mouth but just doesn't always play out. Kind of pathetic since I had so much extensive musical training growing up.
I'm like that not with singing but with physical movement, like copying dance moves or martial arts forms. I can't translate what I see to my own body, for some reason. Do you by chance happen to be extremely good at physical activities? Maybe we're opposites, balancing out! XD
Sounds like me !! I've got two left feet, and I'm always tripping over both of them. As a singer... let's just say I'd make a pretty good air raid siren. No amplifier required 😁.
@@Victoria-dh9vb XD Well, you took away my hope that I had a purpose in my ineptitude, in balancing out someone else's overly-awesomeness, lol! But at least I'm not alone in that, then! ; )p
@@partacanna I used to be bad at singing and now I'm not. So my anecdote cancels yours. How did I get good, you might ask? I strengthened by vocal chords and diaphragm by belting out songs alone in my car rides to school. Eventually your vocal chords and diaphragm are strong enough to do what you intend. Just mess around if you don't like the tone, usually you just need to put more air into the note. It was really that easy, but here are some things I learned along the way: Sing with the music at a very low volume, just enough to stay in sync, but you need be able to hear yourself to make adjustments. If you didn't hit a note right, practice that interval from the note before. Conscious effort and practice does wonders, I promise. When you think you sound good with the music. Try singing the lyrics without music or just the instrumentals instead of along with the original track (MUCH harder). Start with your favorite parts and eventually you will carry over those strengths into the rest. Most importantly, have fun! Sing like no one's around, especially when there actually isn't.
@@RubixB0y but why are some people better at singing than most without practice? I used to sing constantly as a kid but never learned to sing well. I didn't stop belting when I sang until I was like 11 and the bullying from my siblings started to hit lol. meanwhile I have a friend I grew up with who did not sing nearly as much as I did and she sounds much better, and then there are 5 year olds who sing like angels. there has to be something physically or psychologically limiting me here, right?
@@grass666 I mean why are some people naturally better than others at anything? Some people are naturally talented in anything artistic, drawing, painting, cooking, writing, etc, and others have to work hard at it and really practice to become good. It's the same for singing. Hell there are some musical prodigies that can pick up playing an instrument almost instantly, but that doesn't mean it's the norm or regular people can't learn to do the same thing. Some people are just naturally good at certain things, but any one can learn to do the same with practice and effort. Almost anyone can learn how to sing, unless you have some sort of health issue to get in the way
I think we need something like a sequel to this topic. Something along the lines of "why some people just can't play instruments even though they don't necessarily have amusia". I myself, in particular, can distinguish between the different 2 tones/pitch but I have a hard time remembering what's the name of that pitch/tone if presented alone. Or I just easily forget which one is C or D or just that my brain just can't tie the sound with the names/key they're called with or vice versa.
What if what people hear in their ear is not the same tone that is coming out of their mouth? In other words, they have a stronger perception of the tone that is modified by passing through the flesh of their head. Maybe they ARE on key for the dominant sound that they hear.
Some voices, particularly female voices can make me feel queasy, and when hearing some other voices or certain musical harmonies, they cause me instant tears, it's really weird. But I can't sing to save my life.😥
They can't even recognize music as anything but noise, so I doubt they enjoy it. And I agree, it would be super depressing. Though I guess it's a little better if you're born with it and don't know what you're missing.
@@SuviTuuliAllan I get your point, but if getting together to view patterns of gamma rays was a huge part human culture, and I was unable to participate in that, then I might feel a bit left out. That being said, I do think others are overestimating just how "depressing" this would be. Lack of enjoyment in one art form can be made up for by increased interest in another.
I studied music with a tone deaf guitar player (he was excellent). He could sort of perceive melody, but only how we perceive a foreign language: lots of different sounds that we hear but can't remember or repeat back. He couldn't sing back a note you played, but he could appreciate tone and tempo and rhythm and lyrics... There's lots more to music than melody.
Even worse if they are visually-impaired! A friend of mine lost his sight as an infant, but has perfect pitch both in hearing & singing, which is why we both absolutely agree that 'good' karaoke nights don't exist!
Most likely you don't :) I've only heard 1 person whose voice wasn't pleasing so much that I could say it was awful (and he was one of my professors at university) and after several of his lectures I got headaches. If people don't get headaches after you speak to them, your voice is fine :)
oh mood. Like I have great control over my voice and rarely just miss a note, and I can maintain a good vibrato too. But when I hear my own voice singing the vast majority of songs, I hate it so much. All throaty and nasal at the same time somehow
College music majors may major in performance, music education, music business, composition, etc. There's a minority of these students who can't replicate a tune with their voice. They do not have amusia, as this condition would seem to preclude even wanting to be a musician. Music majors in most colleges are required to take ear training/aural skills, which entails that they be able to vocally match pitch and sight-read melodies. I have been frustrated several times over the years trying to help certain students who seem unable do this. According to the video, it can be extremely difficult to pinpoint the reason. I'm glad to hear that because for the longest time, I thought I was lacking the skill (as a music teacher) to fix their problems. I hope more research is done to help musicians who can't sing!
I don't go to karaoke to hear good singing. I go to karaoke to get drunk with my friends, listen to the multitude of bad singers and the few good singers, and applaud after they are done: either cause I liked their singing or I'm glad its over. But they get applause regardless.
Can't carry a tune in a bucket with a lid on it. Glad I'm not alone. In elementary school I was 'invited not to come back' to community choir after 2 years. My mom relayed that choir was for those who can sing or could improve. I sing my heart out while driving so apologizes if you had to hear it. I 'dance' with enthusiasm so you can giggle at that 😄
I love singing, i do it all the time on my own. But I'm such an atrocious singer i never do if people can hear me any more. Not being able to sing is awful
I feel like I have a very good musical hearing, not perfect pitch of course but still. However, I suck at singing and I realise how off I am when I sing, but I just can't control it, I don't control my vocals. Exactly like what you described with larynx and so on
I can't remember musical pitch, only broad range: Low, Middle, & High. Nor can i tell if the same note is played on two different instruments. If you play two similar notes on the same instrument side by side, I will probably be able to tell you which is higher, but not always. Sometimes music that sounds good to others sounds "off-key" to me, and vice versa. So I am not tone deaf, but it is not just practice. Other people can hear music better than me.
@@VeronicaGorositoMusic I suspected someone would suggest I need more practice. I cannot produce a note with my voice since I can't hear if it the same or different to a note played on an instrument, so my only choice is to use an instrument like a piano. I had one for the first 36 years of my life and used to play with it all the time. I still can't reliably tell you if two similar notes played upon it are higher, lower, or the same with any reliability. Even seeing the notes played didn't help me hear any difference.
@@philwood5288 Try something different... hold your hand on your throat, and the other hand on the back of an upright piano. Have someone press a note within your talking voice pitch. Then hum raising or lowering until the vibration in your throat feels the same as the vibration on the back of the piano. Some people that are completely deaf learn to sing this way. You then need to practice matching the vibrations over and over until you create memory to match your voice vibration to the piano vibration.
@@voiceofreason9258 Yeah, my high school music teacher was frustrated that I just can't hear pitch. All the techniques you describe gave no result after four years. Music was required in my school from 1st form to 4th form (year 7 to 10). There is nothing to match to. You are trying to teach a colour blind person to tell colours. They just do not have the same senses as you do. I like music - beat and melody, but tune just isn't there.
@@VeronicaGorositoMusic I am an IT guy. I find it hard to understand that some people just can't see a code structure in their mind. You are a music person. You find it hard to understand that some people just can't hear well. Please understand that some people cannot do things you find natural. It is not training, it is not practice, it is the differences in human biology.
@@philwood5288 so you are saying that you also can not feel vibration frequency differences through touch in your hands either (does not involve hearing). Interesting.
I’ve had a few years of formal musical training, and I have a pretty good ear for music. I can usually sing on pitch pretty accurately, even by myself. I’m more of an instrumentalist than a singer though. I get more enjoyment from playing piano or guitar than I do from singing. Part of that might just be because I don’t like my singing voice that much though.
This all sounds like my worse nightmare. I mean, it's one thing to not have a good singing voice, but not being able to comprehend the most basic pitch changes in music is what scares me.
I acutally never heard of the concept of being tone-deaf, and never really thought about it even though I can't sing; considering tones and melodie... Really interesting video, personally, I would "confirm" that I just can't produce the sounds I hear ... and can't really remember melodies that are more complex. :D
I'm curious about wheater this affects the abillity to speak tonal languages. I can't sing and I've learned mandarin as an adult, I have a really hard time correctly pronuncing the tones from reading the pinyin (the system for writing chinise pronunciation) but can learn from listening to the words and copying
Interesting. I find listening to people speak in other languages to be literal music to my ears. I can correctly pronounce foreign words that I can see someone say. I am also musically inclined. I might have read somewhere that music and language are connected?
Steph W Interesting! I'm fairly good with pitch and a half-decent singer, but am struggling with Vietnamese, language of the thousand glottalisations. On the other hand, pj's as day wear is clearly genius.
I used to be pretty bad but after yeeeeears of singing (i’m now 35) in my car I’ve actually become kinda ok 😛 so practice and become old that’s the secret haha! Also find bands that have a singer in the range you most feel comfortable with. I’m definitely a Maroon 5 kinda voice..
So, why do most people sound terrible when they sing out loud while listening with earphones on? Or, people who experience physical pain when others sing off-key?
I was a pretty good singer when I was young. Then I hit my second puberty at 13 and my voice is permanently cracked, and hasn't changed in the 19 years since. I always wanted to be the frontwoman of a band, but that dream is long dead...
Does scishow have a required words per minute so that people can keep up? I feel like all the hosts do a good job keeping a pace that most people can keep up with.
I knew someone in high school chorus who was actually tone deaf. She had no idea that she was off key unless someone told her and then she had no idea whether she needed to sing higher or lower. It was really painful to listen to because her singing didn’t resemble the actual song in any way
My experience says that you can practice all you want, if you are not talented, you will never be a good singer. You can get better, but you will always hear, that it's "forced". I've heard many people sing, and the ones that sang good from the beginning, we're truly the best. The ones that "learned to sound good" we're just okay. I'm sorrry to break that to you. I take singing lessons for three years now and I think if you have to "learn" it from scratch, you are not talented and therefor you will always be mediocre. If you are offended, sorry not sorry. It's like how I have to accept that no matter how much I practice, I'll never be a really good dancer. Everyone has different talents.
That's me, I was given a pity c- just to let me get my GER's It sucked because I'm the only one in the family with no musical ability But I compensate, I love music and because I'm not distracted by different tones I hear more separate instruments. Music is a beautiful foriegn language full of color and motion.
It isn't always a matter of practice, though. Some people's voices just don't sound nice for singing, even when on-key. My voice is a great example. There aren't may songs I can sing in-key, but even when I can, it just doesn't sound nice. Mine is not a nice singing voice. And that's okay. :]
@@wezul I ve listened on a video that almost of people could sing well if they practiced. Maybe the voices aren't good enough, but if you sing more and more you will improve
@@adaplay13 Oh for sure, I have no doubt that if I practiced or took lessons, I would get BETTER at singing. I'm just saying that even if I were good at it, I don't have the kind of voice that is nice to listen to. ;)
Genuinely wondering because I dont get why some people cant sing, for me its so easy, including opera etc, I've always had a powerful voice but I know many people cannot sing high or loudly....
How does tone-deafness work in countries like China and Japan where they use tone to differentiate words as sememes? Can't they talk properly? Or is does it work differently?
I'd bet it's a variety of things for people who are just bad. I've been told by a music teacher that anyone can learn, as long as they're not actually tone deaf
I’m learning to sing myself (choir and singing lessons to be specific) and it makes me notice how good some people’s strength is. Unfortunately for me, I have pitch but my voice is a little too quiet
My babies used to cry when I sang lullabies. I know I can’t sing. If I could change one thing about myself, it would be hard to decide between perfect vision or perfect pitch.
I hate that I can sing I literally love to sing. And it makes it worse that when I sing from what I hear myself I think I sound good. But when I record myself singing I sound so bad..
Hey, don’t give up on it if you love it. If you don’t want to get vocal coach you may have to put in a little work yourself. When singing, try listening to what you think you do well in, then try to distinguish what you may need to improve on in the recording. If you just can’t tell, that’s fine - just keep trying this method.
Who doesn't enjoy aa caraoke night? I don't. Not singing feels awkward and singing after being pressured into at least giving it a try even more so. Especially, when you see the others regretting it.
My ex wasn't able to tell the difference between a major scale and a minor scale (or chords or arpeggios, no variation worked). Not even the level of "this one's happy, the other one's sad" - despite having "learned" the piano for 10 years(!!?). He enjoyed music though, I can just guess for more than just the rhythm.
Before I learned to sing, I always felt like what was hard about it was controlling my larynx. I'd hear the note in my head and just have to slide around until i found it. Even bad singers can learn, you just have to use the muscles enough- so being afraid to sing is the only way to stay bad at it
I think what's fascinating to me is people who have essentially the opposite of tone deafness. In my jazz class a few years back (yes I, a science major took jazz class in college but it was way fun) there was this girl who could, with seemingly little effort, pick out what a note was just by hearing it. It was really cool seeing how she could pick up these notes like it's text on a page.
Of course there are people who have ruined their voices. I used to sing 1st and 2nd Soprano, until I smoked for a couple of decades. Now my voice is much lower and not nearly as pretty.
I can sing at low volume, but besides my friends nobody likes my singing voice. I've played back my voice on a recorder and I hate both my talking and singing voice. I can't describe it. I'm not squeaky. The closest to it would be a child's voice but that's not quite right. I also have a poor lung capacity and even can't scream. If I scream on a roller coaster for example, no sound comes out of my mouth. Also can only give a quiet whistle, though I've tried plenty for a whistle that's loud. I had to take speech lessons when I was a little kid and to this day my mom says I don't always speak clearly when I'm talking. Also could never wrap my mind around musical notes (written and spoken) in a classroom setting [nor math I'd also mention]. I've always been "hard headed". I learn but it takes forever and my patience is short. I am jealous of people who learn so fast they believe they have photographic memory.
Is there any chance that some people just truly don’t have any voice for singing? Cause I love music, recognize pitch, am really good at impressions because I have such good contrôle over my voice/larynx , yet I cannot sing in a way that is pleasing to anyone lol.
Singing is a whole topic of its own! Singing talent of any kind can only go so far, even people born with great voices must practice to improve. Truth is, almost everyone can sing but not everyone can sing well. However, anyone/everyone can improve - there are many people who thought that they sounded horrible before but had improved a lot. It just takes some dedication :)
this is fascinating to me as someone with perfect pitch, for years as a kid i always assumed everyone could recognize pitches and they were just singing poorly on purpose 😂 great video! would love to see an opposite video explaining perfect pitch, because it seems like theres still no conclusive answer to that either
Did you see Rick Beato's channel? His son Dylan can recognize every single note even from weird unmusical 6 note chords! That kid has insane perfect pitch. I think pitch recognition is inborn ability, as not everyone's able to do it. I naturally have good relative pitch, and with training, I was able to recognize even car & train horns, noises, claps, wooden hits...you know, the sounds that are non-musical. This is useful as when you're editing a song, the snare could sound 15 cents higher to match the pitch of the song, is subtle, but helps to have this ability. Tuning a drum, or choosing samples, edit them to match the song's note is not fort everyone, I don't feel special for that but can't believe that some people can't reproduce a single note.
I have a feeling one of my relatives has slight amusia. I could play a song she knows on my horribly out-of-tune, broken piano and chances are she won’t know the difference. Meanwhile I’m sitting on the bench cringing.
I recorded myself, and found I have an amazing voice, but a bad speech problem with my s and th Which I use to work on in speech class after getting surgery on my ears because I was deaf, Sonos I need to work on my speech before I can be a good singer
There's another category: People who sing off-key on purpose, just to annoy others around them. Even when you tell them to stop, the next day they're doing it again, and you can't really get mad at them because they always say, "It sounds good to me, why are you getting mad at me for?"
If you are reading this, please search up Ice JJ Fish. He is a prime example of someone who could be a great singer/songwriter, but the notes don't come out right. Literally the human equivalent of nails on a chalkboard! But I can hear the potential if an accomplished singer sang his songs.
who doesn't enjoy a good karaoke night? uhhh, me. also, i can't sing, i may not have this condition, but i'm a terrible singer.and i don't love singing, though i wish i could, i just am not capable.
I've told myself so much that I can sing to the point where when I try to sing i either whisper or no sound will come out so I ended up searching up if there's a such thing as a singing disorder lol 😂
Simple answer: they don't have relative pitch. Relative pitch is a musician's term. You can sing a note, then, every following note is exactly (or the opposite) 'tuned' acording to the first one. You can't fail this way. Best live musicians have this ability, because when failing a note, it'ss instantaneously recognized and corrected, because it's compared to the internalized first note. You have to practice INTERVALS first, in order to reproduce ''right'' notes. Then, you just ''feel'' them without thinking. You can not only hear, you really feel when you're off key. That's what a mere musician does: feel the note, and express those emotions, in music.
I know someone who sings a lot, makes videos of herself singing, and is never on key at any given moment while singing lol. She listens to her videos and recordings, but seems to have no problem with it. A mutual friend once told her she was singing off key, she got really offended and even cried. I do wonder what makes her completely unaware of being so off key, because it's agony to suffer through and it would be great if she could recognize and improve, or if I could never hear it again
This is really fascinating. I can't even imagine what being truly tone deaf means... what would the world sound like? Would everyone seem to be speaking in monotone voices all the time?
As a musician who sings and plays some instruments, I think most people who are bad at singing are bad at it because they haven't practiced and/or there's that disconnect between their vocal chords and mind. The latter is probably a case of the brain saying that the throat's C is, say, a B flat (just a physical discrepancy between the mind and throat). But for practice, it's like if you've never practiced throwing free throws. Like yeah, you've probably picked up a basketball to go play with the lads, but you haven't spent years honing that physical skill, which means that when you try to make a free throw, your body only kinda knows what it's doing, and you'll make mistakes.
you can't evolve to love it because it's useful to connect to other people with because you need to love it FIRST, and then you can bond around it. That's like saying you've evolved to like food because otherwise you'd be the only one with nothing to do around the dinner table. It's the complete wrong way around.
This is So sad because i wanna be a singer but can't one day i told my friend can i sing she said no and i asked so many people and i just can't sing singing was my dream. To hear someone sing good makes me cry my Bestfriend sounds so good and I'll be jealous my sister and friend stole my dreams and everything i just Cry in the mirror and say why can't i sing beautiful i just want my dreams to come true im happy for the one's who got everything 👍❤😢
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I have an amazing pitch ear, which allows me to know exactly how incredibly terrible my singing is.
Javier Arriaga García 😂
At least you know!
That’s what my Mom’s always said. 😅 She does truly have a great ear.
You can always sing in the shower. With the water running, your neighbors won't know how good or bad you are 😁.
@@LindaGailLamb.0808 I live in an apartment and the shower is one of the shared walls. I'm afraid my neighbors know EXACTLY how bad i am lol
I studied music at university with a guy who was tone deaf, truly. He used an electronic tuner to tune his guitar, and essentially failed all the listening/singing portions of our classes. And he was an INCREDIBLE guitar player. Wild.
It must have really been like a sport to him!
@@alphabettical1 I likened it to playing a drum set. Lots of distinct sounds, you can definitely really get into a drum beat, you can distinguish different beats and fills, have favourites and ones you don't like... But then when it comes to singing, everybody but you can beatbox
I hate that I just can’t sing. It makes me so upset because I love to sing.
Singing is one of my life's joys. I would be crushed if I lost my singing voice. You've got to sing for yourself, no one else matters. As Joe Raposo once wrote: "Don't worry if it's not good enough for anyone else to hear, just sing, sing a song." We all have a song to sing. Sing yours loud and strong!😊
Me too. It takes me so long to master the basics, but I end up forgetting it soon after.
Take comment as encouragement to view your singing less critically, cause your voice represents who you are (It's the way you make your self heard) and even if it's not used to carrying a melody, that doesn't mean it can't. It means it's not had the training yet. You might also consider giving it training if your situation alowes.
Voice lessons do work.
"And if there comes a day when my fingers dont work,
or my voice loses sound, gives me grief, gives me hurt,
well I swear on that day when I lose whats worthwhile,
from that day forth, I never shall smile"
Don't worry. If you don't have perfect pitch or technique, a vocal coach will be your best bet. I see one. They help. Not only is my pitch waaaaaaaay better than it used to be (there was a dark time when I didn't even sing in the right octave...), but my breathing, positioning and tone as well.
If you really love to sing, and that's the path you want to take, see one. You'll feel much better knowing you can improve.
Whenever I hear someone say "if you can walk, you can dance, and if you can talk, you can sing", I just laugh at them.
You can! It really is just practice and technique
yeah some people are idiots. i can't sing to save my life, can't speak in other accents either
It’s true
@@Isa-qz9mb Nah, not when you factor in disabilities...which people never do.
@@Isa-qz9mb You can polish a pebble all you want, it won't become a diamond.
There were two kids in my high school who'd taken years of voice lessons and were still horrible, but kept insisting on singing at people because, having worked so hard at it, they thought they were great. I wonder what part of the brain is responsible for that.
Denial
I say props to them
Loving parents
I used to sing under the shower when I was young until my mom once thought our cats are fighting and screaming in the yard when in reality it was me singing 😅
Lilly this is so funny. Not a lot of people have heard many real cat fights..it sounds demonic. People imagine just hissing and scratching lol.
Ouch! lol
it starts with 1 cat meowing but then its longer then the normal meow its extended and it doesnt sound friendly, if ur close enough you can also hear some hissing but its not going to make much more noise
@@leagueaddict8357 I've heard many fights of street cats. It's either rather quiet, like hissing and scratching and biting, or 5 minutes of intense meowing and done...
@@atriyakoller136 yeah and I think almost everyone on earth heard one 😏
I actually knew someone who has this disorder but LOVED to sing! He seriously could not understand why people didn't like to listen to him "sing." He had a vocal coach attempt to work with him. The coach played a note on the piano and asked him to repeat the note. He never came close. The coach tried this sever times, and he could never get it - BUT he thought he was getting it! So sad!
I have ADHD, got Diagnosed with 27.
Hearing different instruments, melodys, separating it was impossible to me.
The first time I tooked ADHD meds was eye opening. I could suddenly differentiate the different instrument, seperating it, meds allowed to learn this skill. Now I can do this without medication
thx bro, gonna try too
I feel personally attacked... 😂
I like this host?? I'm not sure if he's been on before, I haven't seen all the psych episodes :/ but I do like him.
Alex Greene there’s one part of his hair on the upper left (his right) that’s distracting to me at just one angle. It’s like round smooth, small angle, round smooth. I’m trying to laugh at myself for being smol-kine upset at a little break in a pattern.
He’s new. Hank introduced him in one of the previous videos :)
He's ok.
I have my great-grandmother’s piano from when she was a child (early 1900’s). It has a beautiful tone, but it has been tuned to B flat instead of C. When my parents brought it home in the 1970’s, the piano tuner said it would break several of the strings to bring it up to C and he hated to change the tone of it. So, B flat. When asked to pick out every C on a musical test, I always completely failed because I would pick out every B flat instead. I don’t know if that has affected my singing or not. It’s not pretty. I still love to sing, though, just when others aren’t around.
So you have good pitch with...strange training
Tusenbensen lol Never quite thought of it that way.
So you want the OCD singers to go utterly insane???
I once heard a recording of me singing...
I never song/sing again.
While I'm trying to sing, I can't recognize how much inconsistent my voice/notes are.
Then in the recordign I can hear EVERYTHING....and it's awful!!!
It's like looking it with a microscope, you see all the trembling and voice cracks and weird noises at fine detail.
So I sing when nobody's home 😭
@@VeronicaGorositoMusic lol that is why I feel bad for those American Idol people...I sound okay then I hear a recording and yikes
i hate recordings of myself, i have the worst voice, i don't know how other people stand it
I have been singing karaoke about once a week (and it used to be much more often like 3-4 nights a week) and I have gone from being a terrible singer to a mediocre singer. There are some songs that I am able to do an okay job on, but whatever. I enjoy it, the people in the bars I go to don't hate it, and it is fun. Everyone should sing if they have fun doing it. And even if you don't sing, karaoke crowds are among the most friendly and accepting people in the world.
"they may have simply already forgotten the note"
Damn son, you got me there. Worst part is, I can hear the freaking correct note in my head... But the brain to mouth but just doesn't always play out.
Kind of pathetic since I had so much extensive musical training growing up.
I'm like that not with singing but with physical movement, like copying dance moves or martial arts forms. I can't translate what I see to my own body, for some reason. Do you by chance happen to be extremely good at physical activities? Maybe we're opposites, balancing out! XD
@@iprobablyforgotsomething lolololol nope. If anything, the hand eye coordination is worse than the singing....
Sounds like me !! I've got two left feet, and I'm always tripping over both of them. As a singer... let's just say I'd make a pretty good air raid siren. No amplifier required 😁.
@@Victoria-dh9vb XD Well, you took away my hope that I had a purpose in my ineptitude, in balancing out someone else's overly-awesomeness, lol! But at least I'm not alone in that, then! ; )p
@@LindaGailLamb.0808 XD I love that, that's hilarious!
Yeah, in my family we don't say we're tone-deaf, we say that we "can't carry a tune in a wheelbarrow!" ;]
Ours is "can't carry a tune in a bucket" 🤣
Ok i understand that's fine you have a diffent way to understand and it's okey.👍
Sometimes I sing good and sometimes badly. That won't stop me from kareoke!!
Sleep well, singing needs a relaxed body, and drink lots of water.
Sleep 8-10 hours.
I can sing as long as I’m listening to someone else singing the same thing. For whatever reason I can’t do it alone.
THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME TO
Most people can't sing for the same reason most people can't play guitar. They haven't practiced enough with serious intent.
Are you kidding? I have an awful singing voice no matter what I do.
@@partacanna oh yeah? What have you done?
@@partacanna I used to be bad at singing and now I'm not. So my anecdote cancels yours. How did I get good, you might ask?
I strengthened by vocal chords and diaphragm by belting out songs alone in my car rides to school.
Eventually your vocal chords and diaphragm are strong enough to do what you intend. Just mess around if you don't like the tone, usually you just need to put more air into the note.
It was really that easy, but here are some things I learned along the way:
Sing with the music at a very low volume, just enough to stay in sync, but you need be able to hear yourself to make adjustments.
If you didn't hit a note right, practice that interval from the note before. Conscious effort and practice does wonders, I promise.
When you think you sound good with the music. Try singing the lyrics without music or just the instrumentals instead of along with the original track (MUCH harder). Start with your favorite parts and eventually you will carry over those strengths into the rest.
Most importantly, have fun! Sing like no one's around, especially when there actually isn't.
@@RubixB0y but why are some people better at singing than most without practice? I used to sing constantly as a kid but never learned to sing well. I didn't stop belting when I sang until I was like 11 and the bullying from my siblings started to hit lol. meanwhile I have a friend I grew up with who did not sing nearly as much as I did and she sounds much better, and then there are 5 year olds who sing like angels. there has to be something physically or psychologically limiting me here, right?
@@grass666 I mean why are some people naturally better than others at anything? Some people are naturally talented in anything artistic, drawing, painting, cooking, writing, etc, and others have to work hard at it and really practice to become good. It's the same for singing. Hell there are some musical prodigies that can pick up playing an instrument almost instantly, but that doesn't mean it's the norm or regular people can't learn to do the same thing. Some people are just naturally good at certain things, but any one can learn to do the same with practice and effort. Almost anyone can learn how to sing, unless you have some sort of health issue to get in the way
I was singing when I saw this in my recommended. I guess my FBI agent is trying to send me a messege here.
I think we need something like a sequel to this topic. Something along the lines of "why some people just can't play instruments even though they don't necessarily have amusia".
I myself, in particular, can distinguish between the different 2 tones/pitch but I have a hard time remembering what's the name of that pitch/tone if presented alone. Or I just easily forget which one is C or D or just that my brain just can't tie the sound with the names/key they're called with or vice versa.
What if what people hear in their ear is not the same tone that is coming out of their mouth? In other words, they have a stronger perception of the tone that is modified by passing through the flesh of their head. Maybe they ARE on key for the dominant sound that they hear.
I love this new guy!!! Everyone in the scishow team just seems so cool to have a conversation with
"Who doesn't like a good karaoke night?"
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No fun allowed
Some voices, particularly female voices can make me feel queasy, and when hearing some other voices or certain musical harmonies, they cause me instant tears, it's really weird. But I can't sing to save my life.😥
Do amusics not enjoy music then?
That would suck... music is such a wonderful part of life
They can't even recognize music as anything but noise, so I doubt they enjoy it. And I agree, it would be super depressing. Though I guess it's a little better if you're born with it and don't know what you're missing.
I feel bad for those who can't see gamma rays. Life must be hell.
@@SuviTuuliAllan I get your point, but if getting together to view patterns of gamma rays was a huge part human culture, and I was unable to participate in that, then I might feel a bit left out. That being said, I do think others are overestimating just how "depressing" this would be. Lack of enjoyment in one art form can be made up for by increased interest in another.
I studied music with a tone deaf guitar player (he was excellent). He could sort of perceive melody, but only how we perceive a foreign language: lots of different sounds that we hear but can't remember or repeat back. He couldn't sing back a note you played, but he could appreciate tone and tempo and rhythm and lyrics... There's lots more to music than melody.
Even worse if they are visually-impaired! A friend of mine lost his sight as an infant, but has perfect pitch both in hearing & singing, which is why we both absolutely agree that 'good' karaoke nights don't exist!
I’m good at singing, I just have an awful voice.
Most likely you don't :) I've only heard 1 person whose voice wasn't pleasing so much that I could say it was awful (and he was one of my professors at university) and after several of his lectures I got headaches. If people don't get headaches after you speak to them, your voice is fine :)
oh mood. Like I have great control over my voice and rarely just miss a note, and I can maintain a good vibrato too. But when I hear my own voice singing the vast majority of songs, I hate it so much. All throaty and nasal at the same time somehow
I hear musical notes tone lower than they actually are. I know this being a piano player.
It is a result of a drug I take for a medical condition
That must be really annoying!
@@MrWombatty He could just play Stravinsky and nobody would know.
Playing piano is alright if you are playing with sheet music, which is generally what I do now.
This happened to me as well, except that the tone went higher and it was caused by an ear infection.
Me trying to sing Into the Unkown: "Aaahh aaahh .."
Other people: please shut up
Lol don't compare urself to Urie. That guy has an almost unnatural range and power in his voice.
My elementary school wouldn’t let me on choir. They let more than >95% of kids that volunteered
College music majors may major in performance, music education, music business, composition, etc. There's a minority of these students who can't replicate a tune with their voice. They do not have amusia, as this condition would seem to preclude even wanting to be a musician.
Music majors in most colleges are required to take ear training/aural skills, which entails that they be able to vocally match pitch and sight-read melodies. I have been frustrated several times over the years trying to help certain students who seem unable do this. According to the video, it can be extremely difficult to pinpoint the reason. I'm glad to hear that because for the longest time, I thought I was lacking the skill (as a music teacher) to fix their problems.
I hope more research is done to help musicians who can't sing!
On of my neighbors on a hill above me have Alcoholic Amusia when they have Karaoke night.
i love to sing but man do i suck at it.
I don't go to karaoke to hear good singing.
I go to karaoke to get drunk with my friends, listen to the multitude of bad singers and the few good singers, and applaud after they are done: either cause I liked their singing or I'm glad its over. But they get applause regardless.
Now I'm very curious about what it's like for amusic people to learn a language where pitch is really important.
Can't carry a tune in a bucket with a lid on it. Glad I'm not alone.
In elementary school I was 'invited not to come back' to community choir after 2 years. My mom relayed that choir was for those who can sing or could improve.
I sing my heart out while driving so apologizes if you had to hear it. I 'dance' with enthusiasm so you can giggle at that 😄
I love singing, i do it all the time on my own. But I'm such an atrocious singer i never do if people can hear me any more. Not being able to sing is awful
some people's singing voices are still hard to listen to even if they're singing the correct pitch. I was hoping the video would talk about that.
my grandfather: "I couldn't carry a tune in a bucket" :)
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I feel like I have a very good musical hearing, not perfect pitch of course but still. However, I suck at singing and I realise how off I am when I sing, but I just can't control it, I don't control my vocals. Exactly like what you described with larynx and so on
Now i know why I'm so bad at recognizing pitches, whenever my mom tells me something, it goes in one ear, then comes out the other.
I'm convinced.
I'm pretty sure my dad just thinks his voice is deeper than it really is, so he always makes it higher
I can't remember musical pitch, only broad range: Low, Middle, & High. Nor can i tell if the same note is played on two different instruments. If you play two similar notes on the same instrument side by side, I will probably be able to tell you which is higher, but not always. Sometimes music that sounds good to others sounds "off-key" to me, and vice versa. So I am not tone deaf, but it is not just practice. Other people can hear music better than me.
@@VeronicaGorositoMusic I suspected someone would suggest I need more practice. I cannot produce a note with my voice since I can't hear if it the same or different to a note played on an instrument, so my only choice is to use an instrument like a piano. I had one for the first 36 years of my life and used to play with it all the time. I still can't reliably tell you if two similar notes played upon it are higher, lower, or the same with any reliability. Even seeing the notes played didn't help me hear any difference.
@@philwood5288 Try something different... hold your hand on your throat, and the other hand on the back of an upright piano. Have someone press a note within your talking voice pitch. Then hum raising or lowering until the vibration in your throat feels the same as the vibration on the back of the piano. Some people that are completely deaf learn to sing this way. You then need to practice matching the vibrations over and over until you create memory to match your voice vibration to the piano vibration.
@@voiceofreason9258 Yeah, my high school music teacher was frustrated that I just can't hear pitch. All the techniques you describe gave no result after four years. Music was required in my school from 1st form to 4th form (year 7 to 10). There is nothing to match to. You are trying to teach a colour blind person to tell colours. They just do not have the same senses as you do. I like music - beat and melody, but tune just isn't there.
@@VeronicaGorositoMusic I am an IT guy. I find it hard to understand that some people just can't see a code structure in their mind. You are a music person. You find it hard to understand that some people just can't hear well. Please understand that some people cannot do things you find natural. It is not training, it is not practice, it is the differences in human biology.
@@philwood5288 so you are saying that you also can not feel vibration frequency differences through touch in your hands either (does not involve hearing). Interesting.
I can hear myself going all over the place when I sing. I can't even make it steady.
i hear ya, i suck at singing
Very good. You confirmed much of my thoughts on singing.
I’ve had a few years of formal musical training, and I have a pretty good ear for music. I can usually sing on pitch pretty accurately, even by myself. I’m more of an instrumentalist than a singer though. I get more enjoyment from playing piano or guitar than I do from singing. Part of that might just be because I don’t like my singing voice that much though.
This all sounds like my worse nightmare. I mean, it's one thing to not have a good singing voice, but not being able to comprehend the most basic pitch changes in music is what scares me.
I acutally never heard of the concept of being tone-deaf, and never really thought about it even though I can't sing; considering tones and melodie... Really interesting video, personally, I would "confirm" that I just can't produce the sounds I hear ... and can't really remember melodies that are more complex. :D
1:23 Yes, I do, and it physically pains me!
I like how he is like LeVar Burton.
I shouldn’t have laughed, but I did.
His voice does sound alot like LeVar Burton
I always sound so good in my head Haha
I'm curious about wheater this affects the abillity to speak tonal languages. I can't sing and I've learned mandarin as an adult, I have a really hard time correctly pronuncing the tones from reading the pinyin (the system for writing chinise pronunciation) but can learn from listening to the words and copying
Interesting. I find listening to people speak in other languages to be literal music to my ears. I can correctly pronounce foreign words that I can see someone say. I am also musically inclined. I might have read somewhere that music and language are connected?
Steph W Interesting! I'm fairly good with pitch and a half-decent singer, but am struggling with Vietnamese, language of the thousand glottalisations. On the other hand, pj's as day wear is clearly genius.
I used to be pretty bad but after yeeeeears of singing (i’m now 35) in my car I’ve actually become kinda ok 😛 so practice and become old that’s the secret haha! Also find bands that have a singer in the range you most feel comfortable with. I’m definitely a Maroon 5 kinda voice..
So, why do most people sound terrible when they sing out loud while listening with earphones on? Or, people who experience physical pain when others sing off-key?
I love recognizing things from Tangents in SciShow videos later
I was a pretty good singer when I was young. Then I hit my second puberty at 13 and my voice is permanently cracked, and hasn't changed in the 19 years since. I always wanted to be the frontwoman of a band, but that dream is long dead...
Does scishow have a required words per minute so that people can keep up? I feel like all the hosts do a good job keeping a pace that most people can keep up with.
I knew someone in high school chorus who was actually tone deaf. She had no idea that she was off key unless someone told her and then she had no idea whether she needed to sing higher or lower. It was really painful to listen to because her singing didn’t resemble the actual song in any way
My experience says that you can practice all you want, if you are not talented, you will never be a good singer. You can get better, but you will always hear, that it's "forced". I've heard many people sing, and the ones that sang good from the beginning, we're truly the best. The ones that "learned to sound good" we're just okay. I'm sorrry to break that to you.
I take singing lessons for three years now and I think if you have to "learn" it from scratch, you are not talented and therefor you will always be mediocre.
If you are offended, sorry not sorry. It's like how I have to accept that no matter how much I practice, I'll never be a really good dancer. Everyone has different talents.
That's me, I was given a pity c- just to let me get my GER's
It sucked because I'm the only one in the family with no musical ability
But I compensate, I love music and because I'm not distracted by different tones I hear more separate instruments.
Music is a beautiful foriegn language full of color and motion.
Reason n.1 : I don't practice enough
It isn't always a matter of practice, though. Some people's voices just don't sound nice for singing, even when on-key. My voice is a great example. There aren't may songs I can sing in-key, but even when I can, it just doesn't sound nice. Mine is not a nice singing voice. And that's okay. :]
@@wezul I ve listened on a video that almost of people could sing well if they practiced. Maybe the voices aren't good enough, but if you sing more and more you will improve
@@adaplay13 Oh for sure, I have no doubt that if I practiced or took lessons, I would get BETTER at singing. I'm just saying that even if I were good at it, I don't have the kind of voice that is nice to listen to. ;)
I have very close to perfect pitch and its THE WORST! the way people talk, sing, laugh or whatever is always a /little/ off and it's so annoying!
I can pick out pitches just fine. I just can't reproduce them at all. It literally just comes out wrong and I cannot seem to fix it lol
Genuinely wondering because I dont get why some people cant sing, for me its so easy, including opera etc, I've always had a powerful voice but I know many people cannot sing high or loudly....
How does tone-deafness work in countries like China and Japan where they use tone to differentiate words as sememes? Can't they talk properly? Or is does it work differently?
I'd bet it's a variety of things for people who are just bad. I've been told by a music teacher that anyone can learn, as long as they're not actually tone deaf
I’m learning to sing myself (choir and singing lessons to be specific) and it makes me notice how good some people’s strength is. Unfortunately for me, I have pitch but my voice is a little too quiet
Shyness maybe?
It can ruin a good voice 🙋♀️
syan Can we switch voices my voice is too loud? 🤣
It's weird having a perfect pitch but not knowing how to sing a note I want.
My babies used to cry when I sang lullabies. I know I can’t sing. If I could change one thing about myself, it would be hard to decide between perfect vision or perfect pitch.
Good narration but please do blink😅. Like to see you in other videos.
I hate that I can sing I literally love to sing. And it makes it worse that when I sing from what I hear myself I think I sound good. But when I record myself singing I sound so bad..
Hey, don’t give up on it if you love it. If you don’t want to get vocal coach you may have to put in a little work yourself. When singing, try listening to what you think you do well in, then try to distinguish what you may need to improve on in the recording. If you just can’t tell, that’s fine - just keep trying this method.
Who doesn't enjoy aa caraoke night? I don't. Not singing feels awkward and singing after being pressured into at least giving it a try even more so. Especially, when you see the others regretting it.
Music could be a good proxy for normal brain function similar to how hip/waist ratio acts as a proxy for fertility.
I was wondering why some ppl were just born with talent for singing and some aren't. This kinda clarifies that! Thanks!
My ex wasn't able to tell the difference between a major scale and a minor scale (or chords or arpeggios, no variation worked). Not even the level of "this one's happy, the other one's sad" - despite having "learned" the piano for 10 years(!!?). He enjoyed music though, I can just guess for more than just the rhythm.
Before I learned to sing, I always felt like what was hard about it was controlling my larynx. I'd hear the note in my head and just have to slide around until i found it. Even bad singers can learn, you just have to use the muscles enough- so being afraid to sing is the only way to stay bad at it
I think what's fascinating to me is people who have essentially the opposite of tone deafness. In my jazz class a few years back (yes I, a science major took jazz class in college but it was way fun) there was this girl who could, with seemingly little effort, pick out what a note was just by hearing it. It was really cool seeing how she could pick up these notes like it's text on a page.
Of course there are people who have ruined their voices. I used to sing 1st and 2nd Soprano, until I smoked for a couple of decades. Now my voice is much lower and not nearly as pretty.
I can sing at low volume, but besides my friends nobody likes my singing voice. I've played back my voice on a recorder and I hate both my talking and singing voice. I can't describe it. I'm not squeaky. The closest to it would be a child's voice but that's not quite right. I also have a poor lung capacity and even can't scream. If I scream on a roller coaster for example, no sound comes out of my mouth. Also can only give a quiet whistle, though I've tried plenty for a whistle that's loud. I had to take speech lessons when I was a little kid and to this day my mom says I don't always speak clearly when I'm talking. Also could never wrap my mind around musical notes (written and spoken) in a classroom setting [nor math I'd also mention]. I've always been "hard headed". I learn but it takes forever and my patience is short. I am jealous of people who learn so fast they believe they have photographic memory.
Is there any chance that some people just truly don’t have any voice for singing? Cause I love music, recognize pitch, am really good at impressions because I have such good contrôle over my voice/larynx , yet I cannot sing in a way that is pleasing to anyone lol.
Singing is a whole topic of its own! Singing talent of any kind can only go so far, even people born with great voices must practice to improve. Truth is, almost everyone can sing but not everyone can sing well. However, anyone/everyone can improve - there are many people who thought that they sounded horrible before but had improved a lot. It just takes some dedication :)
this is fascinating to me as someone with perfect pitch, for years as a kid i always assumed everyone could recognize pitches and they were just singing poorly on purpose 😂 great video! would love to see an opposite video explaining perfect pitch, because it seems like theres still no conclusive answer to that either
Did you see Rick Beato's channel?
His son Dylan can recognize every single note even from weird unmusical 6 note chords!
That kid has insane perfect pitch.
I think pitch recognition is inborn ability, as not everyone's able to do it.
I naturally have good relative pitch, and with training, I was able to recognize even car & train horns, noises, claps, wooden hits...you know, the sounds that are non-musical.
This is useful as when you're editing a song, the snare could sound 15 cents higher to match the pitch of the song, is subtle, but helps to have this ability.
Tuning a drum, or choosing samples, edit them to match the song's note is not fort everyone, I don't feel special for that but can't believe that some people can't reproduce a single note.
I belong to the ones that hear a tune, try to reproduce it and hear themselves fail terribly.... xP
Wow. Way more interesting than I was expecting lol
I've never even heard of amusia.
I have a feeling one of my relatives has slight amusia. I could play a song she knows on my horribly out-of-tune, broken piano and chances are she won’t know the difference. Meanwhile I’m sitting on the bench cringing.
I recorded myself, and found I have an amazing voice, but a bad speech problem with my s and th Which I use to work on in speech class after getting surgery on my ears because I was deaf, Sonos I need to work on my speech before I can be a good singer
There's another category:
People who sing off-key on purpose, just to annoy others around them. Even when you tell them to stop, the next day they're doing it again, and you can't really get mad at them because they always say, "It sounds good to me, why are you getting mad at me for?"
I always break down when I hear people sing really good because I’m terrible
If you are reading this, please search up Ice JJ Fish. He is a prime example of someone who could be a great singer/songwriter, but the notes don't come out right. Literally the human equivalent of nails on a chalkboard! But I can hear the potential if an accomplished singer sang his songs.
Because they haven't taken singing lessons.
Why are some people bad at building boats?
who doesn't enjoy a good karaoke night? uhhh, me. also, i can't sing, i may not have this condition, but i'm a terrible singer.and i don't love singing, though i wish i could, i just am not capable.
Yep
That's me
I've told myself so much that I can sing to the point where when I try to sing i either whisper or no sound will come out so I ended up searching up if there's a such thing as a singing disorder lol 😂
I'm diagnosed with something called CAPD(Central Auditory Processing Disorder). Yall should do a video about it!
Simple answer: they don't have relative pitch.
Relative pitch is a musician's term.
You can sing a note, then, every following note is exactly (or the opposite) 'tuned' acording to the first one. You can't fail this way.
Best live musicians have this ability, because when failing a note, it'ss instantaneously recognized and corrected, because it's compared to the internalized first note.
You have to practice INTERVALS first, in order to reproduce ''right'' notes. Then, you just ''feel'' them without thinking. You can not only hear, you really feel when you're off key.
That's what a mere musician does: feel the note, and express those emotions, in music.
I know someone who sings a lot, makes videos of herself singing, and is never on key at any given moment while singing lol. She listens to her videos and recordings, but seems to have no problem with it. A mutual friend once told her she was singing off key, she got really offended and even cried. I do wonder what makes her completely unaware of being so off key, because it's agony to suffer through and it would be great if she could recognize and improve, or if I could never hear it again
This is really fascinating. I can't even imagine what being truly tone deaf means... what would the world sound like? Would everyone seem to be speaking in monotone voices all the time?
That would be so sad to be truly tone deaf. I love music so much. It just kills me to think there are people out there that cant enjoy it.
As a musician who sings and plays some instruments, I think most people who are bad at singing are bad at it because they haven't practiced and/or there's that disconnect between their vocal chords and mind. The latter is probably a case of the brain saying that the throat's C is, say, a B flat (just a physical discrepancy between the mind and throat). But for practice, it's like if you've never practiced throwing free throws. Like yeah, you've probably picked up a basketball to go play with the lads, but you haven't spent years honing that physical skill, which means that when you try to make a free throw, your body only kinda knows what it's doing, and you'll make mistakes.
you can't evolve to love it because it's useful to connect to other people with because you need to love it FIRST, and then you can bond around it. That's like saying you've evolved to like food because otherwise you'd be the only one with nothing to do around the dinner table. It's the complete wrong way around.
This is So sad because i wanna be a singer but can't one day i told my friend can i sing she said no and i asked so many people and i just can't sing singing was my dream. To hear someone sing good makes me cry my Bestfriend sounds so good and I'll be jealous my sister and friend stole my dreams and everything i just Cry in the mirror and say why can't i sing beautiful i just want my dreams to come true im happy for the one's who got everything 👍❤😢
An Anthropology course I took described music as "Auditory Cheesecake". We love it not because it is special but because it has things we love in it.