@@BiggusDickus.2000 are you seriously, clinically autistic, or "self-diagnosed sort of"? what i'm wondering is - if part of being autistic is struggling with social cues, "reading the room" etc., i'd expect it would be hard for somebody with autism person to recognize the difference between a fellow autistic person and an average one? no?
1. I said he look like, not that he is. Having an impression doesn't make him autistic, nor a psychopath. 2. Reading social cues is different from a analysis of someone behaviour in a movie. I am not blind, yes? 3. It is a spectrum and everyone is somewhat unique. People with autism can struggle with different things in different proportions.
I remember watching this movie on VHS until the tape fried. Computers back in the 90s were considered "nerdy" so when a movie about computers--albeit a TV movie--came out, it was HUGE for us in HS who were really into the whole subculture.
@@jhonshephard921 It has been confirmed that Bill Gates never took a day off in his life in his 20s. He worked every day of the week, for 10-12 hours daily, at a minimum.
@@gorillaman283 I can point you to about 10 people in my neighborhood who works without taking days offs at all, maintaining their own small businesses. And these people do it because they live *slightly* above the poverty line, which means that if they don't work all day they will have to shut down their businesses and get evicted out of their homes because they can't pay rent. And these people will *NEVER* be as successful as Jobs or Gates, fuck it, they will never even get up to 5% of what Jobs and Gates are, because they have to provide to their families somehow and never had a proper education past the high school...And they are in their late 50s already. Welcome to the world of social inequality, *where working your ass off 24/7 literally does NOT MEAN SHIT to how successful you will be in your career and your life.* Jobs and Gates were crazy outliers, not the rule of what happens when you just bust your ass off everyday of your life.
@@gorillaman283 the best saying ever. "just because you can do all these things and never sleep doesn't mean others can to" any creator who works and sacrifices his people to fill his own dream and desires can rot in fucking hell.
Can't believe nobody remembers who played Bill Gates: Anthony Michael Hall, from Sixteen Candles and the Breakfast Club. I loved this movie when it came out on TV in 1997 and still find it entertaining.
This is a fun movie. I love Bill Gates in this scene. Quietly observing the cracks in Jobs' facade. Like when he observes how miserable Jobs' coders are. And how the mention of IBM makes Jobs explode. He's playing chess, not checkers, and he's the real pirate. Fun stuff.
Ok there is a reason why this movie is a thousand times better than Jobs and that is because this actor does something that Kutcher failed to do and that is really capturing Steve's state of mind. Think about it, Steve Jobs was both passionate and mad with power and only this actor successfully portrayed so smoothly whereas. When watching both movies you can tell, Kutcher was playing a role whereas this was becoming the role.
I thought kutchers performance was spot on especially after watching a lot of steve jobs interviews to compare, he even captured his mannerisms and expressions well.
Yeah, the thing I feel a lot of people tend to forget is that at one time Steve Jobs was a an arrogant, self centered a**hole. In his later life he even admitted to how out of control he got, even if he never completely broke himself of some of the habits.
Yes. When I first saw this movie, it unbelievable that both characters look alike of real people. It really shows that it is happening in front of us. Very nice movie
@@drstealyourgirl yes, on sheer resemblence, kutcher matched jobs more. but that's why his performance was way worse and dull and less interesting. this actor, by accentuating one overarching specific quality of steve jobs from those days - namely his cult leader style and aggression - did a better job of *representing* what jobs was *like* during that time. kutcher was just a carbon copy, nothing interesting. this actor's performance actually made a meaningful statement / claim and presented jobs in a interesting light
1:40 to the end......Gates looked more like Col. Hogan, circling his prey, Jobs as Col. Klink.......outsmarting, plotting, stalking, suggesting.....playing to Klink's enormous ego.
The thing is in real life, Bill Gates would often pull 72 hours straight at the office and would probably expect the same out of his software teams. So 90 hours/week might have been a reality during the Windows 1.0 push.
manco82 The difference is Gates was right there with them programming, leading the charge so to speak. Jobs had no clue of the stress and just yelled to get results. Causing them to grow to despise him.
smooth, slimy, charismatic preacher persona, sly and fox like, demonstrating invulnerable, just admit it you have a high IQ and you live in your parent's basement.
+Peter David haha, Peter I've got no grudge against you. Creativity produces such mean things. I was reading your comment and started thinking a rap would be cool, but I only half finished it.
As others have said - although the screenplay has great inaccuracies in order to create more drama, the portrayal of the some of the characters is excellent. Not only that, but the set pieces really take you to this time and place. Totally recommended.
@@thirien59 Axccording to Steve Jobs himself (in Wikipedia for this film) he hated the screenplay but loved Noah Wyle's performance, who played him accurately according to everyone that knew Steve. Bill Gates also said his portrayal int eh film was largely accurate.
God. Those two. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. They drove each other. The area what transformed our world into what is today. Their competition with each other is what made the world that Gibson and Nealson wrote of. Without Jobs, or someone to take his place; where will we go? RIP Steve. We'll miss you.
Gates was pretty foul mouthed and ruthless himself. Plus he new the limitations of coding. You also had to understand the hardware the coding was trying to operate.
The first rule of Apple is: You do not talk about IBM: The second rule of Apple is: YOU DO NO TALK ABOUT IBM. Third and final rule: If this is your first day at Apple; you have to be up for 52 hours straight.
that line "don't torture our guests with something they can't have" that's what a ruler/thief would say right before another steals it. that was your own mistake steve
I was using a mouse and graphical user interface as a kid in 1976 at Xerox PARC, about 7 years before the events of this scene. Xerox Star was released two years before this scene with these features - the technology was well known by this time (just expensive and not made for the consumer market).
Yup, he hasn't changed either. But all the morons believe he's suddenly a saint now because the throws stolen money at some decent causes to buy worship and influence.
This movie shows the reality quite well. Too well I'd wager because the narcissistic Steve Jobs was apparently insulted by Noahs portrayal of him in this movie and then went on to publicly embarrass Noah on one of the Mac conventions.
1:49 That look just kills me. It's so subtle, but the drama of the scene makes it like 1000x more noticeable than it ought to be. It's so ridiculous, HAHA!
I’m sure there was stuff going on in the 80s when both were hitting the market. That’s called competition. Microsoft has the most compatible OS and Apple has OSX in a sexy design. They really build their products well on the outside.
I feel sorry for those that didn't get to experience the early days of computing back in the 70's & 80's. Nothing will compare to the excitement... except perhaps the birth of the web in the 90's. Good times
We watched this movie as part of my class in middle school and after each part we watched had to write an essay about what we learned as homework..that was the best part of private school..you do learn more for the money
i hear about bill being the programmar and steve being the sales guy. you know Bill is a badass programmar and a badass sales guy. he fucking sold steve for fuck sake!
Perhaps I am imagining this, but I believe that TNT inadvertently aired this well before they intended to do so in 1999. I vividly recall seeing it in the wee hours in the morning months before it “officially “ aired on TNT,. Anyone else recall this?
Nah ... these dudes would never steal or cheat ... right? Right? Right? These guys are saints ... and 100% perfectly 100% totally honest. They would never steal from or cheat anyone on this planet earth ... EVER! Bet your career ... on that ...
Been what nearly,a qtr century going back to the 20th Century and this lower budget TV movie is the one everybody raves about. I think both Actors Anthony Michael Hall and Noah Wylie nailed their characters or at least the essence of them.. Here we see Steve Jobs the “ Artiste “ counter culture influenced posterity minded character at work and Bill the business predator who feigns the “ anti establishment Woodstock ,Age of Aquarius “ in front of Jobs but is in reality old school robber baron. . Jobs is unable to see the treachery and eventually let’s the shapeshifting fox into the henhouse
Love the history, doesn't matter who stole what. Its the end result that matters. Apple and Microsoft created the next golden age of technology. Without them we would probably still be using DOS. I use both , my pc for all home stuff and my iPad for on the go, its a great combo.
JOHN Bessler you mean the same graphical interface and mouse that was developed by Xerox PARC and demonstrated to Steve Jobs as well as other developers at the time?
Yes they show Jobs going to Xerox PARC in the movie where Jobs gets the idea of using a GUI. Gates brings up Xerox PARC when Jobs accuses Microsoft ripping Apple for Windows.
Not really. They are each their own brand of ruthless in the movie, but not evil. Steve is a frightening bi-polar egomaniac and Bill is a deceitful backstabber, but that's just a part of their characters. They get pretty human portrayals all around. This scene seems as 'evil' as it does mainly because Jobs is putting on an intentionally intimidating show for Gates, who is in the process of figuring Jobs out.
well, it is a dramatization, the point is that these people were still ruthless cutthroats, like any other rags to riches business man in history, despite being nerds
No this movie was actually made when apple was having its resurgence with the e-Mac. I suppose the story should've end with both men in their peaks. At the time Jobs died he was very successful and Gates was retired and doing charity, happily stepping down from being the richest man on earth. But the Apple Microsoft story has not finished yet. Apple shares has been declining steadily, except for the occasional announcement. Will both companies disappear in the future or even merge, who knows?
It implies nothing. This scene was based on a real event as was much of the movie. To read about this particular scene, visit folkloreDOTorg and read the section titled "Shut Up" by Andy Hertzfeld. Hertzfeld explains how Gates assumed the Mac had special hardware to draw small bitmaps called "sprites", as did many early computers (The Commodore 64 is a good example)
I can't believe that is Anthony Michael Hall...without his crazier blonde hair or usual accthent...and with added glasses, all of these subtle transformations gives him a major remake of himself!
This is interesting storytelling of how Apple and Microsoft came to be. this movie got many critical response, many people commented they loved it, this was a good film
That mouse in the rotating display isn't a Macintosh Mouse. It looks more like the IIe/ IIc mouse that shipped a few months after the Macintosh. It's compatible, but was made to match the aesthetics of the Apple II line.
Gates actually said that he thought this actor portrayed him very well.
So did Jobs
That's scary considering he seems like a total psychopath 😂
Psychopaths are more like Steve Jobs than Bill Gates. Bill in this movie looks far more autistic. I know because I am too.
@@BiggusDickus.2000 are you seriously, clinically autistic, or "self-diagnosed sort of"?
what i'm wondering is - if part of being autistic is struggling with social cues, "reading the room" etc., i'd expect it would be hard for somebody with autism person to recognize the difference between a fellow autistic person and an average one? no?
1. I said he look like, not that he is. Having an impression doesn't make him autistic, nor a psychopath. 2. Reading social cues is different from a analysis of someone behaviour in a movie. I am not blind, yes? 3. It is a spectrum and everyone is somewhat unique. People with autism can struggle with different things in different proportions.
well Wozniak has said they nailed the personalities
Woz says this movie is the most accurate portrayal of how everything went down and how the characters are depicted.
They made Bill Gates come in with that music like an OP anime villian
ye
Shirohige lol
I took the background music as being the ambient soundtrack that is heard when the Steve Jobs RDF is active.
Well I mean in the intro he is pratically looking down on him.
i thought this music was because of steve who made his employees work 90 hrs
I saw this movie when it first came out. I was 17... I was already working on computers for a few years at that time, but this movie changed my life.
Richard how? It made you rich?
I am with you !!
I remember watching this movie on VHS until the tape fried. Computers back in the 90s were considered "nerdy" so when a movie about computers--albeit a TV movie--came out, it was HUGE for us in HS who were really into the whole subculture.
90hrs/week? Screw that. My career is there to support my life, not the other way around.
That's why they're all billionaires though now
@@gorillaman283 no they aren't the executives are, not the programmers(at least not most of them). I suggest you look up Joshua Fluke's channel.
@@jhonshephard921 It has been confirmed that Bill Gates never took a day off in his life in his 20s. He worked every day of the week, for 10-12 hours daily, at a minimum.
@@gorillaman283 I can point you to about 10 people in my neighborhood who works without taking days offs at all, maintaining their own small businesses.
And these people do it because they live *slightly* above the poverty line, which means that if they don't work all day they will have to shut down their businesses and get evicted out of their homes because they can't pay rent.
And these people will *NEVER* be as successful as Jobs or Gates, fuck it, they will never even get up to 5% of what Jobs and Gates are, because they have to provide to their families somehow and never had a proper education past the high school...And they are in their late 50s already.
Welcome to the world of social inequality, *where working your ass off 24/7 literally does NOT MEAN SHIT to how successful you will be in your career and your life.*
Jobs and Gates were crazy outliers, not the rule of what happens when you just bust your ass off everyday of your life.
@@gorillaman283 the best saying ever. "just because you can do all these things and never sleep doesn't mean others can to" any creator who works and sacrifices his people to fill his own dream and desires can rot in fucking hell.
Can't believe nobody remembers who played Bill Gates: Anthony Michael Hall, from Sixteen Candles and the Breakfast Club. I loved this movie when it came out on TV in 1997 and still find it entertaining.
This is a fun movie. I love Bill Gates in this scene. Quietly observing the cracks in Jobs' facade. Like when he observes how miserable Jobs' coders are. And how the mention of IBM makes Jobs explode. He's playing chess, not checkers, and he's the real pirate. Fun stuff.
really
IT really shows how Steve Jobs got destroyed by his own arrogance.
Kristian Nygaard How did he get destroyed?
Cameron Goddard Sorry, maybe a little extaggeration, but Apple computers sold minimally compared to microsoft for a period of 20-30 years, after this.
Kristian Nygaard True, but that was after he left Apple
Ok there is a reason why this movie is a thousand times better than Jobs and that is because this actor does something that Kutcher failed to do and that is really capturing Steve's state of mind. Think about it, Steve Jobs was both passionate and mad with power and only this actor successfully portrayed so smoothly whereas. When watching both movies you can tell, Kutcher was playing a role whereas this was becoming the role.
I thought kutchers performance was spot on especially after watching a lot of steve jobs interviews to compare, he even captured his mannerisms and expressions well.
Yeah, the thing I feel a lot of people tend to forget is that at one time Steve Jobs was a an arrogant, self centered a**hole. In his later life he even admitted to how out of control he got, even if he never completely broke himself of some of the habits.
Yes. When I first saw this movie, it unbelievable that both characters look alike of real people. It really shows that it is happening in front of us. Very nice movie
Selena Torres 💛
@@drstealyourgirl yes, on sheer resemblence, kutcher matched jobs more. but that's why his performance was way worse and dull and less interesting. this actor, by accentuating one overarching specific quality of steve jobs from those days - namely his cult leader style and aggression - did a better job of *representing* what jobs was *like* during that time. kutcher was just a carbon copy, nothing interesting. this actor's performance actually made a meaningful statement / claim and presented jobs in a interesting light
An iconic moment in the history of personal computers. Amazing movie!
not as iconic as Gates in the IBM boardroom... they even framed it. LOL!
This movie is so good. Really needs to get more attention.
1:44 Bill moving behind Steve like a Shark waiting on its prey
I thought Bill Gates would murder Steve at the end of this scene, the way he was looking at him is terrifying
he looked like a complete psycho here
@@slipnorris5882 thats how ppl looked in 70th. he looks like serial killer jeffrey dahmer.
Got his head-games game-face on.
1:40 to the end......Gates looked more like Col. Hogan, circling his prey, Jobs as Col. Klink.......outsmarting, plotting, stalking, suggesting.....playing to Klink's enormous ego.
The thing is in real life, Bill Gates would often pull 72 hours straight at the office and would probably expect the same out of his software teams. So 90 hours/week might have been a reality during the Windows 1.0 push.
manco82 The difference is Gates was right there with them programming, leading the charge so to speak. Jobs had no clue of the stress and just yelled to get results. Causing them to grow to despise him.
that's definite burn out. most employees can't handle that.
@ Bill Gates did code, the last lines of code he wrote for Microsoft was in 1989.
why is this scene so fucking creepy
smooth, slimy, charismatic preacher persona, sly and fox like, demonstrating invulnerable, just admit it you have a high IQ and you live in your parent's basement.
+Peter David haha, Peter I've got no grudge against you. Creativity produces such mean things. I was reading your comment and started thinking a rap would be cool, but I only half finished it.
This is the moment Bill Gates played jobs and made/stole the idea for Windows. This is the moment that made the future of technology.
Noah Wyle was no doubt the best Steve Jobs.
Ashton Kutcher looked more like steve though.
Noah got the voice acting just perfect.
he was so good they pranked MacWorld by having him come out to do a keynote pretending to be Steve
computerkid1416 Absolutely true.
Charismatic, very handsome man, intelligent
Fassbender was a phenomenal Steve Jobs, he just looked absolutely nothing like the guy and slipped into an Irish accent once in a while.
The guy who played Steve Job's did a really great job.
Anthony Michael Hall was so great for this movie. He was making floppy disk wager jokes back in the early 80s.
As others have said - although the screenplay has great inaccuracies in order to create more drama, the portrayal of the some of the characters is excellent. Not only that, but the set pieces really take you to this time and place. Totally recommended.
my question is : were steve jobs and bill gates really like that? or were they dramatized for the show?
@@thirien59 Axccording to Steve Jobs himself (in Wikipedia for this film) he hated the screenplay but loved Noah Wyle's performance, who played him accurately according to everyone that knew Steve. Bill Gates also said his portrayal int eh film was largely accurate.
@@Shah_creates I wonder why he hated the screen play? Did he explain why? Or can I assume he was just.. salty?
@@kidc2004 Probably because of inaccuracies to increase drama
@@kidc2004 because it showed being an a-hole to his daughter. Steve was a bad human being
I havent even seen the other movies regarding apple, this is my favorite one and i saw it when i was 15, im turning 28 now lol
God. Those two. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. They drove each other. The area what transformed our world into what is today. Their competition with each other is what made the world that Gibson and Nealson wrote of.
Without Jobs, or someone to take his place; where will we go?
RIP Steve. We'll miss you.
Occams Razor Elon Musk will probably make life multiplanetary and create a self-sustaining human colony on Mars. He is the next Steve Jobs
Michael Anthony Hall played Bill Gates…..he was the “geek” in 16 Candles.
The guy who does Bender's voice is Steve Ballmer.
jesus fuck wow
That makes a lot of sense. =D
What a fucking random comment
John DiMaggio
Moreno A. Hassem how is it random? he’s one of the actors in the movie
2:35 Bill Gates: Dang, this shit isnt working. I play the IBM-card.
I guess the IBM card is the only thing that can penetrate the RDF shield? 🤔
I think as a software minded person Gates would've been disgusted by Jobs' treatment of his software engineers more than anything
Gates was pretty foul mouthed and ruthless himself. Plus he new the limitations of coding. You also had to understand the hardware the coding was trying to operate.
The first rule of Apple is: You do not talk about IBM:
The second rule of Apple is: YOU DO NO TALK ABOUT IBM.
Third and final rule: If this is your first day at Apple; you have to be up for 52 hours straight.
I think Jobs is more interested in that turntable than the computer on it.
“I’ve been up for 52 hours straight.” OK, no wonder they have the spinning beach ball of death.
They were huge nerds,but at the same time some of the coolest guys on the planet at the time..
You should read Jobs' biography. They were absolutely like this.
that line "don't torture our guests with something they can't have" that's what a ruler/thief would say right before another steals it. that was your own mistake steve
I was using a mouse and graphical user interface as a kid in 1976 at Xerox PARC, about 7 years before the events of this scene. Xerox Star was released two years before this scene with these features - the technology was well known by this time (just expensive and not made for the consumer market).
MY favorite movie after GONE WITH THE WIND - I recorded it years ago and have it still in my DVD collection.
Whew. A fine line between this an a Saturday Night Live parody.
I wonder if Jobs realized that loyalty was a "two way street?"
The actor that plays bill gates plays it so creepy lol. so good. Depicted bill gates spot on.
Yup, he hasn't changed either. But all the morons believe he's suddenly a saint now because the throws stolen money at some decent causes to buy worship and influence.
Archie Ames You know. It sort of reminds me of the followers of Hitler.
Bill Gates was not like this at all lol
Paulo Constantino the actor’s name is Anthony Michael Hall. You might also remember him from the movie Sixteen Candles.
It’s the guy from breakfast club and sixteen candles
They could run this as a series on Netflix today and it would get raving reviews.
This movie shows the reality quite well. Too well I'd wager because the narcissistic Steve Jobs was apparently insulted by Noahs portrayal of him in this movie and then went on to publicly embarrass Noah on one of the Mac conventions.
Machiavellianism vs. narcissism
1:49 That look just kills me. It's so subtle, but the drama of the scene makes it like 1000x more noticeable than it ought to be. It's so ridiculous, HAHA!
"like"? Why did you need the word like in there?
Bills seen some bad shit
I’m sure there was stuff going on in the 80s when both were hitting the market. That’s called competition. Microsoft has the most compatible OS and Apple has OSX in a sexy design. They really build their products well on the outside.
Pirates of Silicon Valley 2 - How 'Bill Gates vs Steve Jobs' turned into 'Bill Gates vs The World'
I feel sorry for those that didn't get to experience the early days of computing back in the 70's & 80's. Nothing will compare to the excitement... except perhaps the birth of the web in the 90's. Good times
Noah is a natural... but Gates is so over the top with those stupid evil villain gazes
The movie is very inaccurate with its facts, but the actors nail their portrayals perfectly.
We watched this movie as part of my class in middle school and after each part we watched had to write an essay about what we learned as homework..that was the best part of private school..you do learn more for the money
0:57 makes Bill look like he's plotting a way to torture Steve
A couple of Nerds never looked so dangerous
i hear about bill being the programmar and steve being the sales guy. you know Bill is a badass programmar and a badass sales guy. he fucking sold steve for fuck sake!
Everything about this is AWESOME.
I can't get over the fact that Bender is playing Steve Ballmer.
love this movie, the subtle half life 1 music you don't notice.
The music in the background - EPIC!
This movie is borderline ridiculous. They made Bill Gates look like a villain from an Austin Powers movie.
2:15 I never noticed before that he rolls up the T-shirt as he says “all rolled into one”
Really great scene, some would say insanely great
Canadian actor Douglas rain died, 11/16/18 at 90. He was the voice of HAL 9000
in 2001. IBM=HAL. :)
Perhaps I am imagining this, but I believe that TNT inadvertently aired this well before they intended to do so in 1999. I vividly recall seeing it in the wee hours in the morning months before it “officially “ aired on TNT,. Anyone else recall this?
I don't know who's the biggest serial killer here, Jobs or Gates lol this is so over the top 😂
You know that Steve Jobs is the protagonist but the real dominant pirate here in Pirates of the Silicon Valley is Bill Gates.
Michael Anthony Hall's greatest role ever..
This makes "Don't Breath" a SpongeBob episode lol.
Amazing scene. Everyone seems tapped in Steve's RDF, but Bill is not phased one bit.
still the best steve jobs movie ever made
I saw the clip and expected to see many stupid apple vs microsoft arguments in the comment session. And surprise!! I wasn't disappointed.
And now Apple is worth 30x what IBM is worth.
Nah ... these dudes would never steal or cheat ... right? Right? Right? These guys are saints ... and 100% perfectly 100% totally honest. They would never steal from or cheat anyone on this planet earth ... EVER! Bet your career ... on that ...
please shut up
the overdots hurt my brain
Noah Wyle and Ashton Kutcher, the best to interpret Steve in both his physical appearance and body language.
r.i.p. paul allen
Such a great film.
Love the serpentine way Bill circles his enemies, then acts nerdy and unassuming.
Great movie, especially for a made for TV flick.
Been what nearly,a qtr century going back to the 20th Century and this lower budget TV movie is the one everybody raves about. I think both Actors Anthony Michael Hall and Noah Wylie nailed their characters or at least the essence of them.. Here we see Steve Jobs the “ Artiste “ counter culture influenced posterity minded character at work and Bill the business predator who feigns the “ anti establishment Woodstock ,Age of Aquarius “ in front of Jobs but is in reality old school robber baron. . Jobs is unable to see the treachery and eventually let’s the shapeshifting fox into the henhouse
You obviously never saw an Apple shareholder meeting during the Steve Jobs era.
Love the history, doesn't matter who stole what. Its the end result that matters. Apple and Microsoft created the next golden age of technology. Without them we would probably still be using DOS. I use both , my pc for all home stuff and my iPad for on the go, its a great combo.
Computers are boring now. I miss understanding how to code. I mean I still can but what I know is horribly out of date.
Bill Gates giving off some strong Dahmer vibes in this!
JOHN Bessler you mean the same graphical interface and mouse that was developed by Xerox PARC and demonstrated to Steve Jobs as well as other developers at the time?
Yes they show Jobs going to Xerox PARC in the movie where Jobs gets the idea of using a GUI. Gates brings up Xerox PARC when Jobs accuses Microsoft ripping Apple for Windows.
Yes
Not really. They are each their own brand of ruthless in the movie, but not evil. Steve is a frightening bi-polar egomaniac and Bill is a deceitful backstabber, but that's just a part of their characters. They get pretty human portrayals all around. This scene seems as 'evil' as it does mainly because Jobs is putting on an intentionally intimidating show for Gates, who is in the process of figuring Jobs out.
Bill Gates had next to nothing to do with Windows 8. As the CEO of Microsoft Steve Ballmer would be far more directly responsible for it.
Seems in this movie like Steve is bullying Gates lol
Bill ends up bamboozling the fuck out of Steve
When you realize 80% of the people in that room are billionaires now
And the other 20% are dead. RIP Jobs and Allen.
@@wton And they enjoyed every minute of it, except the end most likely.
"Let me show you the future." 128k, Monochrome Graphics on a 9 inch screen. LOL.....
well, it is a dramatization, the point is that these people were still ruthless cutthroats, like any other rags to riches business man in history, despite being nerds
Nothing generates results like a rivalry. Someone to challenge you. Gates and Jobs fueled the computer industry into what it is today.
In the beginning of the video, I was hoping for the dude on the left to shout "DEVELOPERS!"
Who else thinks the actor for Jobs could have played John Lennon in a film?
2:47 IBM, they're history.
July 2021 market cap:
IBM: $125 billion
Apple: $2.3 trillion (with a "t")
No this movie was actually made when apple was having its resurgence with the e-Mac. I suppose the story should've end with both men in their peaks. At the time Jobs died he was very successful and Gates was retired and doing charity, happily stepping down from being the richest man on earth. But the Apple Microsoft story has not finished yet. Apple shares has been declining steadily, except for the occasional announcement. Will both companies disappear in the future or even merge, who knows?
Bill Gates portrayed as a psychopath
because bill gates is a psycopath ? you should hear about his stories in teh 1980s and 1990s he was just as ruthless as steve jobs.
@@joeswanson733 my comment wasn’t criticism or implying inaccuracy. Lots of bosses are ruthless
@@diegoyotta many CEOS are sociopaths. thats undeniable especially tech ceos.
It implies nothing. This scene was based on a real event as was much of the movie.
To read about this particular scene, visit folkloreDOTorg and read the section titled "Shut Up" by Andy Hertzfeld. Hertzfeld explains how Gates assumed the Mac had special hardware to draw small bitmaps called "sprites", as did many early computers (The Commodore 64 is a good example)
I can't believe that is Anthony Michael Hall...without his crazier blonde hair or usual accthent...and with added glasses, all of these subtle transformations gives him a major remake of himself!
He did an amazing job. He actually grew into a pretty big dude, but somehow comes off as the nerdy Gates here.
INSANELY GREAT
Bought a Mac as soon as it debuted. It was one of those rare 'had to have it' moments.
How much was it back then?
@@stefjevtic I forget...
This is interesting storytelling of how Apple and Microsoft came to be. this movie got many critical response, many people commented they loved it, this was a good film
wait an sec is bill gates played by "oh my god" meme guy?
The actor for Bill Gates looks more like Jeffery Dahmer the serial killer of the 80s
That mouse in the rotating display isn't a Macintosh Mouse. It looks more like the IIe/ IIc mouse that shipped a few months after the Macintosh. It's compatible, but was made to match the aesthetics of the Apple II line.
does anybody knows how to get this great bio movie please?
loved this movie