Hi, everyone! I forgot to include storage drive speeds in the video. Filmed the scene and everything - just blanked out in review. I've attached an X post with a screenshot of the CrystalDiskMark results: x.com/GregSalazarYT/status/1824528727776301526
Hey greg just wanted to ask, it seem that you only use 1 cable for the GPU, is it okay to do so? I have seen many argue to use 2 cable , one for each 8 pin of the gpu
@@BREEZYM6015 when a laptop only has 1 or 2 USB A ports, and I was plugging in a cellphone, tablet, headphones (x2 to charge), microphone, and a few other things. I had a reason for it. Also, when I got a desktop, I hate reaching in behind the damn thing, so having a hub front and centre, works well. Why wouldn't you need one?
We use them at work to provide a steady +5V to various electronics devices e.g Raspberry Pi's. Definitely get a sturdy metal one rather than cheap plastic, and one with a decent independent power delivery. As for Orico, I have their SATA hard drive caddy and it is basic but ok.
It's nice to see videos of building affordable PC's. Content creators in general have videos of building PC's using flagship components that only a very small amount of people can afford.
Two months ago I was thinking of building my own, but on a visit to Costco, I saw a beautiful CyberpowerPC build in a Phantek NV5 case. It had 32GB DDR5 ram, 2TB nvme, i5-14400F, 4060 GPU all for $899. I just couldn’t build one for that price for those specs. It runs great and I love it.
That's pretty good. A bit lackluster on the graphics side - the RX 6750 XT we used here is a clear winner - but if you're happy with the combo then that's all that matters!
That's a solid rig. The 4060 is definitely a budget GPU, but it can take advantage of DLSS 3. With that, Frame Gen and NVIDIA Low Latency, I've been able to get good FPS at 1440p on a lot of demanding titles, like Cyberpunk and Starfield.
The build looks pretty good. I like that the case has three fans and decent airflow. Normally I'd expect to add an exhaust fan on the back but there's so much perforated panel on the back and top that it's probably not needed. That looked like a really easy case to build in which makes life so much easier for the build and down the line for maintenance and upgrading.
@@NemusDark It would do pretty good at 1440p gaming. It's only showing an average of 6 fps reduction when compared to the 5600 with a 4090 according to Tom's Hardware CPU Hierarchy.
You need to spend "$1500+ just to play games on PC" Nope. Not at all. Thanks again Greg! Proud user of a 6750XT myself, it's very capable of 1440p in most titles.
@@BREEZYM6015 now that's something cool! Heck when it gets older u can still get use out of it with more creative projects. Might I suggest as a janky piehole for blocking add and sites. Actually did that with my old childhood pc and used it as my test bed for several linux and retro projects till it had a board failure.😊
Thanks to your Help, I built my first pc for 890 usd. I bought a used 6800xt off ebay for 365 and 7500f from ali express for 132, same cooler, kingston nv2 1tb, asrock b650m pro rs mobo and the fractal pop air black case and ofc 32 gb ddr5 ram . I cant complain about anything everything works great and following your guides made me realize its really not that difficult to build a pc! Many thanks again!!
unless a user is copying files back and forth from m.2 to m.2, anything faster than a HDD is fine. Even if that Orico PCIe Gen 3 NVMe drive reads and writes at the lower end of the performance range for that type of drive, most users won't even notice. It's a great place to get some savings in the build!
Indeed. Anything above a HDD is good for speed. And, even with transferring files, the higher speed drives really only make a difference if you're transferring large files. For small files, you'll usually have them transferred before the drive gets up to full speed anyway. So, saving some money and going with a Gen 3 NVME is a great idea for anyone on a budget.
I have this case, the only thing I was disappointed was it don't come with an adapter for 120mm at the bottom, can only install 140mm. Had to spend an extra 15$ for a cheap fan grill adaptor and mount my fans.
Nice build Greg. The 12400K is in my wife's machine and it has been a rocking CPU. It's sitting in a Hyte Revolt 3 case which we bought as a Newegg Christmas deal for $120 which included the 700W PSU. The 12400K runs pretty damn cool as I used the Thermalright SI-100 cooler which fits perfectly and costs $26. Apart from the RX6800XT that's sitting in there it's the only cooling fan in the case. I love machines that are well balanced and reasonably priced. BTW Her AMD RX6800XT was second hand and used for mining. Most people don't realize that mining usually doesn't hurt the card because miners reduce voltage and underclock the GPUs to save money on their electricity bill. It's gamers that overclock and overvolt their GPUs to get a tiny increase in performance. If you're going to buy 2nd hand only buy on eBay because no matter what the seller says it's always returnable unless it's explicitly marked 'For parts or repair only'. You have 30 days to test to make sure you've got a good one.
I have an i5-11400 in my home office PC, with every type of boosting algorithm disabled. It stays steady at 0.9 V / 65 W and will last pretty much forever for that use-case. These modern i5 / R5 processors are amazing kit 😀
The 6750XT is essentially a 2080Ti in performance terms, and at $300-320 is maybe the best bargain GPU one can buy new. I have this exact model paired with an R9 3900X, and it's a great all-around 3440x1440 PC. Excellent choice for the 12400 and would be a great match for 6 or 8-core Zen3 CPU.
I was updating my 4070 ti super drivers yesterday, In the end I had a boot screen, then a black screen. Thank goodness I had a non-F i7-12700. Removed the GPU and used the igpu to run Nvidia's cleaner tool. Reinstalled the graphics card and drivers and was good to go. That's the first time I needed a integrated GPU to save me & I'm glad I had it. Granted , I probably could have installed a different GPU to save the day but this shows how important that igpu can be. I think the price difference and performance hit is worth it.
If you have an 800$ budget you should go with a 30-40$ case like the Zalman T7, Deepcool CC560, Zalman N5 and similar and put it into other parts. Maybe you can get a 6800 non-XT with the saved money.
I just sold a 6800 for $240, I don't understand how they aren't/weren't more popular honestly... 16gb VRAM and a 256bit bus, they aren't far off the 6800xt if you overclock.
My choice would be a budget case, the stock cooler (i5 12400F will be just fine on stock cooler), 32GB RAM instead of 16GB, and the rest on a secondary HDD (or SSD) because 1TB isn't enough for gaming nowadays.
Great video, I'm just building a pc for a workmate at the moment for about €1000 and this is pretty much my parts list, same msi ddr4 board, but went for a 12600kf and 6700xt instead. The case is an Antec C3 ARGB. Unfortunately, prices are higher here in Ireland, but I'm happy with the overall cost of the build. Appreciate the build vids like these, keep it up!
Great build! The only thing you could possibly change is trying used. Z690 and 12600K with a 6800XT and an Amzn returned 750watt would be same doll hairs. Use a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 7 pipe cooler and disable the E cores, should be able to hit almost 5ghz on the P cores. Also the RGB fans are like 15 for the 120mm 3-pack from Thermalright. I've used them in almost a dozen builds.
This reminded me to buy a W11 Pro key for my newly built system, Thanks. Went to that site, paid and got the key immediately, and had no issues installing it.
this video is perfectly timed, with the yesterday's SONY announcement of the ps5 pro being 800 euro They are smoking some premium crack there at SONY HQ
My tiny PC has a i5-12400f with a AMD 6700xt graphics card running on a 450W SFX power supply I bought like 10 years ago. That is not to say you should do the same, that was just the PSU I had on hand. It isn't exactly a quiet PC, but sacrifices were needed to fit it all into a fractal node case.
This is a very nice build. During summer, there were some sweet sales, got myself a 3060 and a 12400f bundle for a nice price. And some other sweet deals and having some pc parts lying around. suddenly i have a very cheap pc build ready. Happily i have a friend who suddenly needed a new pc, guess he will get a pc from me soon :D Looking forward to the next video :)
It'd be interesting to see what you could do on a $1000 budget comparing new vs used parts. How much extra performance do you gain, and is it worth taking the risk etc
So when it comes to the budget AMD build I looked at the parts you listed I looked at the list myself and trimmed some fat while also leaving some room for upgrades with a subtotal only 10 dollars more then the one you showed I personally chose R5 5600 for $99 since it's so close to the 5600X might as well save the 30 dollars to put towards other components and no Cpu cooler since The stock Am4 cooler is more then enough but if you want an after market cooler you still have room MSI MPG B550 gaming plus while it's more then the board you had it includes another M.2 slot on the board at $120 Ram 16 gigs of team group t create ram 2x8 3200 CL16 at $33 Funny enough fantastic pick on the ssd so that is the same For the GPU I'd personally save some money and go the Xtx speedstr swft rx 6700 xt at $280 since a decent overclock can match the 6750XT since they're in swinging distance of eachother Power supply I went thr MSI Mag 650W gold so if you wanted to let's say upgrade to a 7900 GRE or Instead go an RX 6800 you'd have room even with a 5700x3d As for the case I went with the solid Fractal design pop air for $58.99 rn All on all before taxes would come out to $714.93 USD that's including a case idk if I'm able to post the pcpartpicker list itself but search those parts and you'll be able to see besides that keep up the great work Greg
12th gen is fine and if those bottomed out id be all over a 12900ks for sure. I have a 13700k now but so far. Everything seems good. Never seen high voltages even when drawing 340 watts. But thats all i would avoid, the 13s or 14s. Amd still gets the nod with my 7800x3d build though, so intel better shape up.👍
that procesor gets 36% more speed on ddr5 ram so i would go for that ddr5 kit, check hardware unboxed video on this, and just cheap out on the case u dont need a 90euro case in a 800e build
of the 4 motherboard ive ordered on amazon 2 have just come in the MOBO boxes and one looked like someone drop kicked it it as all dented pro tip is to order multiple things and tick the option to all come in one big box
Hey Greg I've being following you for a while and I would love to see and in depth cable management video, with all type of power supply (modular, semi and not) !
Yeah, Amazon likes just slapping a shipping label on things and sending them. I got a Thermalright AIO (you aren't kidding about their prices) today and it was the same deal. Just slap a shipping label on the retail box and send it out. Then they left it sitting on my porch. 🙄 Luckily, it was still there when I got home from work.
I just gotta mention something that sort of got on my nerves in this video with the sound. Idk if you used a different bit of music in the background or something, but there's this chiming sound in the background track that sounds like the timer on my oven. So the whole time it just felt like my oven timer was going off in the background. 10:31 - 10:44 is where it's probably the clearest, but I'm so used to listening for the timer when I bake things that it just pierced right through for me. If this is the same background music you've always used, then idk why it's never stuck out to me before lol, maybe just mixed louder in this edit than usual? It's like a "Ding, ding... Ding, ding... Ding, ding." Along with the music.
I use the b760m-p ddr4 edition and its awesome. Nice easy to set up motherboard nothing to crazy. I have my intel i7-14700f in their with the bios update to support 14th gen cpus and never had a problem with voltages. Great motherboard MSI never fails me on that part.
I think I’d have spent $5 more and gotten a Silicon Power 1TB. Love watching your videos Greg. I have a machine running a 12400 paired with a RX6600, runs great at 1080p. In my truck I’m running a 12600kf paired with a rx6600. That little beast was running at 82 degrees this afternoon and it’s 100 degrees outside so the AC I use when I’m parked barely keeps it comfortable in my black truck when it’s 100 degrees outside, but while gaming I was dying so I quit gaming, idled the truck a few minutes to cool it off in here and now I’m watching this video.
I also think we are going to see builds last alot longer now days. I have a b550 mobo, ryzen 5700x, 32gb ram, and a 6600xt for 1080p gaming and video editing. My pc is very low power and has great performance I see myself using this computer for a very long time. I think the problem with the newer gen cpus is they are trying to push the power and cores and the performance in some of the higher end chips. I think we are seeing the limits of moores law. My only upgrade path is a newer 1080p card at lower power consumption thats what I am looking out for in the future! I am thankful I don't have to see Gregs nose hairs in 4k jk lol but seriously 1080p will remain good enough for me and my power bill agrees. Love the video Greg I think showing you can build a solid pc for 800 still shows theres good value out there that doesnt have to break the bank!
i like the build. it's no bulls*it, performance only. if i were to build that, i'd just bite the bullet and get a few arctic fans to complete the build and make sure that gpu stays silent. i have the same gpu btw and it's a loud one in my sff case :D maybe it doesn't enjoy being crammed into such a small space .. anyhow, good video and good build :D
What upgrade path? The 5800X3D is as high as you can go. It's the last of its generation. So unless you're talking about 5600 ---> 5800X3D (which wouldn't be a _huge_ jump, particularly IPC-wise), then it's EOL for AM4 at that point. And there's nothing wrong with that! But don't pick AM4 thinking it's "future-proof."
@@GregSalazar Why are you asking "What upgrade path" when i literally wrote 5800x3d? Why so passive aggresive dude? Your wrote "future-proof" yourself, :D weird. Im trying to understand your video and decision for the build. "What upgrade path? The 5800X3D is as high as you can go" YES! that 250 dollar X3D is playing tennis with a 600 dollar 14900k which costs way more (not even talking about the additional problems+cost this 13/14 Degrading-Lake cpu gen brings). 5800x3d is even cheaper than 12900k, 13900k on ebay. 250 euros for a 5800x3d. Because Am4 5600 is about 100$ cheaper, it is actually giving you two better options than your intel build (i hope i didnt miss something special about it). Either you get am4 with 5600, upgrade to 16gb gddr6 6800 (360$ new), you saved money and you will most def have better gaming experience than your intel build OR you save 100 bucks for future upgrades or get a smaller motherboard for sff build? You can even get a cooler that works for am4 and am5...Intel has the same upgrade pa, oh wait. "which wouldn't be a huge jump, particularly IPC-wise" Good morning, but IPC doesnt say anything about gaming performance! That X3D part has no IPC uplift and is still better in gaming. Its AMD Magic Kappa 🙃 Its a drop-in part that cost 150 bucks more than a 5600. The diffrence between that 800$ intel and 5800x3d is only 50 bucks. There are 800 $ am5 builds too...if you want to talk about future proof. Thats future proof to 2027+, but intel can offer this too right, oh wait.
just picked up a gaming laptop not to long ago with a i9-14900HX for how i have not seen any issues with it yet but did like the 32gb of ram that it came with for how I'm not complaining for it not coming with a 4070 that i would have loved in option
I also have a RX 6750 XT, although I have the ASUS discount version with only 2 fans, which I'm sort of regretting, since it can really ramp up those fans when under pressure and they make quite a lot of noise, so a 3 fan GPU would probably have been better. It is performing admirably, so there's that.
Man I would love to have a rig like this I’m still rocking a prebuilt on an am3 platform with a 1060 3gb because as a working father with a stay at home family I don’t ever have extra money for better pc stuff lol it’s a really sweet build though I’m jealous
Recently i looked at my local shops for PC, i realized basically 90% of ready PC's have i5 12400F in it 🤣. It's good value to drop overall price of the system i suppose, still too expensive for what i can afford atm. Good video as usual 😊😊
I found that I overthink when buying storage. I spend hours trying to decide if the 1TB noname is worth it compared to a known brand that is 58€ instead of 51€. I realized it's not really worth it and now go with reputable brands. Losing your data is in many ways worse than another component breaking. Everything else you can just replace with a new item. But once your storage with your data breaks, it's gone if you have no backup strategy (which, let's be honest, us geeks do but your average Joe doesn't or hasn't made a backup in months).
60 FPS is one thing with Starfield, it gets worse for me as a gamer when you have to enable fake frames (FSR/DLSS) to even get that. I skip on such games until I have the hardware to run it with at least 90 FPS (1% minimum) and without fake frames.
I just built this same setup but with the 11400.i have a sn570 a 970evo and sn770 SSD.corsiar cx750 and nzxt 510 case.i love my 6750xt way better than my 3060
I think if GTA 5 being tested in the video, Greg please use the Max graphics settings as the GPU was not utilised even around 50% so it was not showing it's full potential!
Nice build, and for a DVD-less case, I actually like the design of it. Granted, I would much rather still have a case that supports optical media, but hey ho. I also stuck with F1 2023 for much longer, but that was because I was hoping for a sale on F1 2024 (which I got). Also you don't really need FSR - 1080p high settings would perform similarly, as my RTX 3060Ti gets between 150 and 200 FPS on high settings at 1080p (depending on the track/conditions).
Gregg i love your channel best regards from the uk, btw im rocking a 12600k i got from Amazon us for $150 6 months ago that included shipping and import tax
We didn't buy a Gen 4 storage drive anyway, and the RX 6750 XT won't care in a vast majority of games. Buy whatever board ya want, but I was fine with this one.
@@GregSalazar Just a shame that MSI pulled that when most B550's have Gen4. I'd rather choose the Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2 for the same price, but of course prices might not be the same when someone decides to build. Solid budget builds regardless, thanks for the content.
GL fitting AM5 + DDR5 into an $800 budget along with a 6750 XT. You'll likely lose gaming performance with a weaker card. So nah. Not for me. Would prefer Zen 3 in that case, which we already discussed in the video.
Honestly I'm tired of people saying get am5 yes am5 is for the future but I'm pretty sure next year when idk am6 comes out everyone will tell you get that and call am5 dead 😮💨 I'm still rocking my am4 and I'm pretty sure it will be good for a few more years until am7 or whatever new chipset comes out
@@omegaturkey9249 Look a stupid intel shareholder :D calling am5 dead in 2025 while AMD has extended am5 to at least 2027+. Ohh such things are so easy to refute.
Very similar to the parts I just purchased yesterday, ha. Same mobo, CPU and CPU cooler, almost the same GPU (used 6700 XT), almost the same power supply (Corsair 650W). Fitting it into a Lian Li Dan A3 case. I thought the 6750 XT called for a 800W minimum power supply? 550W is the only questionablr choice to me.
You definitely don't need a 800 watt power supply for a 6750xt, pretty sure they pull less than 300 watts and the processor I'm pretty sure is well under 100
Hi, everyone! I forgot to include storage drive speeds in the video. Filmed the scene and everything - just blanked out in review. I've attached an X post with a screenshot of the CrystalDiskMark results: x.com/GregSalazarYT/status/1824528727776301526
Hey greg just wanted to ask, it seem that you only use 1 cable for the GPU, is it okay to do so? I have seen many argue to use 2 cable , one for each 8 pin of the gpu
the speed says on the bottom of the m.2 box lol
You know every X link fails. Unless I copy it and manually change it to 'twitter'
@@Rayd1998depends on the GPU power draw. Under 200w you could go either way. Above 200w I would use 2 cables for sure.
@@cojotvlive4870that is the read speed. Not the write speed.
The line "I know Intel's been getting a lot of heat lately" sums up the problems Intel has been having.
I have a 7 port powered USB 3.0 USB hub, had it for 3+ years, and it's rock solid. Orico is a good, top notch brand.
In what situation would you need one of those?
@@BREEZYM6015 when a laptop only has 1 or 2 USB A ports, and I was plugging in a cellphone, tablet, headphones (x2 to charge), microphone, and a few other things.
I had a reason for it. Also, when I got a desktop, I hate reaching in behind the damn thing, so having a hub front and centre, works well.
Why wouldn't you need one?
@@BREEZYM6015I use something similar. I keep my PC on the floor. Have a USB-C hub sitting on my desk so I don't have to bend down and behind it.
Same here, a solid Aluminium Hub, lasts longer than all the plastic ones I've had.
We use them at work to provide a steady +5V to various electronics devices e.g Raspberry Pi's. Definitely get a sturdy metal one rather than cheap plastic, and one with a decent independent power delivery. As for Orico, I have their SATA hard drive caddy and it is basic but ok.
It's nice to see videos of building affordable PC's. Content creators in general have videos of building PC's using flagship components that only a very small amount of people can afford.
Two months ago I was thinking of building my own, but on a visit to Costco, I saw a beautiful CyberpowerPC build in a Phantek NV5 case. It had 32GB DDR5 ram, 2TB nvme, i5-14400F, 4060 GPU all for $899. I just couldn’t build one for that price for those specs. It runs great and I love it.
That's pretty good. A bit lackluster on the graphics side - the RX 6750 XT we used here is a clear winner - but if you're happy with the combo then that's all that matters!
@@GregSalazar thanks Greg you are correct. I’m a very light gamer and thus it suffices.
That's a solid rig. The 4060 is definitely a budget GPU, but it can take advantage of DLSS 3. With that, Frame Gen and NVIDIA Low Latency, I've been able to get good FPS at 1440p on a lot of demanding titles, like Cyberpunk and Starfield.
The build looks pretty good. I like that the case has three fans and decent airflow. Normally I'd expect to add an exhaust fan on the back but there's so much perforated panel on the back and top that it's probably not needed. That looked like a really easy case to build in which makes life so much easier for the build and down the line for maintenance and upgrading.
You can fit in an RX 6800 in the AMD build while keeping at $800 or less
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($102.14 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 V2 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($16.79 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 GAMING X V2 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($28.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP33 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Core Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card ($359.99 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair 3000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.97 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750BN PCIE5 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Thermalright TL-C12C-S X3 66.17 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack ($13.59 @ Amazon)
Total: $800.27
I told him it could be done
Heck ya brother! But did you know you can fit an 7800 XT into an all new $800 build?
CPU: Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.75 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO H610M-G DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($28.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger OC Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($479.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Apevia Galaxy 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $804.66
@@Mondo_Mike25 yeah but at that point the i3 12100 will seriously held back the 7800 xt
@@NemusDark
It would do pretty good at 1440p gaming.
It's only showing an average of 6 fps reduction when compared to the 5600 with a 4090 according to Tom's Hardware CPU Hierarchy.
could u put this into pc part picker?
You need to spend "$1500+ just to play games on PC"
Nope. Not at all. Thanks again Greg! Proud user of a 6750XT myself, it's very capable of 1440p in most titles.
I game on a $300 PC featuring an i7 8700k and GTX 1060 6GB. 😂
@@BREEZYM6015 now that's something cool!
Heck when it gets older u can still get use out of it with more creative projects. Might I suggest as a janky piehole for blocking add and sites. Actually did that with my old childhood pc and used it as my test bed for several linux and retro projects till it had a board failure.😊
@@BREEZYM6015I hope that CPU is overclocked
For sure. I have a 6700XT myself and I can get similar results to what Greg is getting. FSR is a major game changer for budget and older GPUs.
I have been using the 6700XT and it also was performing well in 1440P until it died but now I have a 7800XT arriving later today
Thanks to your Help, I built my first pc for 890 usd. I bought a used 6800xt off ebay for 365 and 7500f from ali express for 132, same cooler, kingston nv2 1tb, asrock b650m pro rs mobo and the fractal pop air black case and ofc 32 gb ddr5 ram . I cant complain about anything everything works great and following your guides made me realize its really not that difficult to build a pc! Many thanks again!!
unless a user is copying files back and forth from m.2 to m.2, anything faster than a HDD is fine. Even if that Orico PCIe Gen 3 NVMe drive reads and writes at the lower end of the performance range for that type of drive, most users won't even notice. It's a great place to get some savings in the build!
Indeed. Anything above a HDD is good for speed. And, even with transferring files, the higher speed drives really only make a difference if you're transferring large files. For small files, you'll usually have them transferred before the drive gets up to full speed anyway. So, saving some money and going with a Gen 3 NVME is a great idea for anyone on a budget.
Personally I prefer Gen3 NVMe drives to Gen4, they don't get as hot, and like you say you won't notice the performance drop anyway
I found that those a bit shady brands savings are not that great if you use entry level ssds by known brands like a P3 or a sn580.
Ok, dang. That case is super clean. I actually really like that one.
Absolutely love this case as well!!
I have this case, the only thing I was disappointed was it don't come with an adapter for 120mm at the bottom, can only install 140mm. Had to spend an extra 15$ for a cheap fan grill adaptor and mount my fans.
Always a good time when Greg uploads.
Im using the exaxt same RX6750XT with a Ryzen 5600 myself on a 144hz 1440p monitor. More than happy enough for many years to come.
All same apart from my 1080P resolution. A great value combo.
@@giorx5 at 1080p that combo will be good for many years to come
Nice build Greg. The 12400K is in my wife's machine and it has been a rocking CPU. It's sitting in a Hyte Revolt 3 case which we bought as a Newegg Christmas deal for $120 which included the 700W PSU. The 12400K runs pretty damn cool as I used the Thermalright SI-100 cooler which fits perfectly and costs $26. Apart from the RX6800XT that's sitting in there it's the only cooling fan in the case. I love machines that are well balanced and reasonably priced.
BTW Her AMD RX6800XT was second hand and used for mining. Most people don't realize that mining usually doesn't hurt the card because miners reduce voltage and underclock the GPUs to save money on their electricity bill. It's gamers that overclock and overvolt their GPUs to get a tiny increase in performance. If you're going to buy 2nd hand only buy on eBay because no matter what the seller says it's always returnable unless it's explicitly marked 'For parts or repair only'. You have 30 days to test to make sure you've got a good one.
I have an i5-11400 in my home office PC, with every type of boosting algorithm disabled. It stays steady at 0.9 V / 65 W and will last pretty much forever for that use-case. These modern i5 / R5 processors are amazing kit 😀
The 6750XT is essentially a 2080Ti in performance terms, and at $300-320 is maybe the best bargain GPU one can buy new. I have this exact model paired with an R9 3900X, and it's a great all-around 3440x1440 PC. Excellent choice for the 12400 and would be a great match for 6 or 8-core Zen3 CPU.
I was updating my 4070 ti super drivers yesterday, In the end I had a boot screen, then a black screen. Thank goodness I had a non-F i7-12700. Removed the GPU and used the igpu to run Nvidia's cleaner tool. Reinstalled the graphics card and drivers and was good to go. That's the first time I needed a integrated GPU to save me & I'm glad I had it. Granted , I probably could have installed a different GPU to save the day but this shows how important that igpu can be. I think the price difference and performance hit is worth it.
Stuff like this is exactly why I always buy a CPU with integrated graphics
K CPUs have integrated graphics. As far as I'm aware it's the F SKU that does not have integrated graphics.
@@fahimchowdhury5900 I wrote the wrong letter, sue me, Greg bought the cheaper i5-12400"F",. LOL
@@fahimchowdhury5900 I used the wrong letter in error and corrected it, Greg used a "F" CPU.
Yo here after the ps5 pro reveal. Nahh this the way to go for that money. 💴
If you have an 800$ budget you should go with a 30-40$ case like the Zalman T7, Deepcool CC560, Zalman N5 and similar and put it into other parts. Maybe you can get a 6800 non-XT with the saved money.
I just sold a 6800 for $240, I don't understand how they aren't/weren't more popular honestly... 16gb VRAM and a 256bit bus, they aren't far off the 6800xt if you overclock.
My choice would be a budget case, the stock cooler (i5 12400F will be just fine on stock cooler), 32GB RAM instead of 16GB, and the rest on a secondary HDD (or SSD) because 1TB isn't enough for gaming nowadays.
me: NO, NOT A INT...
"Greg shows a 12th gen cpu"
Me: Ohhh okey then
Great video, I'm just building a pc for a workmate at the moment for about €1000 and this is pretty much my parts list, same msi ddr4 board, but went for a 12600kf and 6700xt instead. The case is an Antec C3 ARGB. Unfortunately, prices are higher here in Ireland, but I'm happy with the overall cost of the build. Appreciate the build vids like these, keep it up!
Great build! The only thing you could possibly change is trying used. Z690 and 12600K with a 6800XT and an Amzn returned 750watt would be same doll hairs. Use a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 7 pipe cooler and disable the E cores, should be able to hit almost 5ghz on the P cores. Also the RGB fans are like 15 for the 120mm 3-pack from Thermalright. I've used them in almost a dozen builds.
This reminded me to buy a W11 Pro key for my newly built system, Thanks. Went to that site, paid and got the key immediately, and had no issues installing it.
People should build this instead of buying the ps5 pro / separate disc drive
this video is perfectly timed, with the yesterday's SONY announcement of the ps5 pro being 800 euro
They are smoking some premium crack there at SONY HQ
My tiny PC has a i5-12400f with a AMD 6700xt graphics card running on a 450W SFX power supply I bought like 10 years ago. That is not to say you should do the same, that was just the PSU I had on hand.
It isn't exactly a quiet PC, but sacrifices were needed to fit it all into a fractal node case.
thanks man was on a 900 dollar budget works amazing can run anything im trying to play
My main rig is a 12400f with an RTX3060 12gb and it runs good. I've been very happy with it for my use.
Another great video! Thanks for the info and all the hard work you put into your productions. :)
The amazon ad shows the drive speed. It's one of the pictures.
That thermalrite cpu cooler is soooo good for the price. And compatible with lots of motherboards with the included spacers. Ive bought 3 so far. :)
It's nice to see videos of building affordable PC's
This is a very nice build.
During summer, there were some sweet sales, got myself a 3060 and a 12400f bundle for a nice price.
And some other sweet deals and having some pc parts lying around. suddenly i have a very cheap pc build ready.
Happily i have a friend who suddenly needed a new pc, guess he will get a pc from me soon :D
Looking forward to the next video :)
Great video and build Greg!
Built my nephews first rig with one of the 12th gen i9's and it runs like a dream
With every video you post you take the build to the next level. It be team red for me.
"Intel has been getting a lot of heat lately..."
Nothing new here 🔥
Nice build. I learn a lot from your videos. "[Starfield]'s not going to be stellar..." I see what you did.
Lovely build. Pretty much all you need to enjoy quality gaming.
It'd be interesting to see what you could do on a $1000 budget comparing new vs used parts. How much extra performance do you gain, and is it worth taking the risk etc
I bought my Corsair PSU off eBaY used, about 4 years ago. Still working to this day...
So when it comes to the budget AMD build I looked at the parts you listed I looked at the list myself and trimmed some fat while also leaving some room for upgrades with a subtotal only 10 dollars more then the one you showed
I personally chose
R5 5600 for $99 since it's so close to the 5600X might as well save the 30 dollars to put towards other components and no Cpu cooler since The stock Am4 cooler is more then enough but if you want an after market cooler you still have room
MSI MPG B550 gaming plus while it's more then the board you had it includes another M.2 slot on the board at $120
Ram 16 gigs of team group t create ram 2x8 3200 CL16 at $33
Funny enough fantastic pick on the ssd so that is the same
For the GPU I'd personally save some money and go the Xtx speedstr swft rx 6700 xt at $280 since a decent overclock can match the 6750XT since they're in swinging distance of eachother
Power supply I went thr MSI Mag 650W gold so if you wanted to let's say upgrade to a 7900 GRE or Instead go an RX 6800 you'd have room even with a 5700x3d
As for the case I went with the solid Fractal design pop air for $58.99 rn
All on all before taxes would come out to $714.93 USD that's including a case idk if I'm able to post the pcpartpicker list itself but search those parts and you'll be able to see besides that keep up the great work Greg
12th gen is fine and if those bottomed out id be all over a 12900ks for sure. I have a 13700k now but so far. Everything seems good. Never seen high voltages even when drawing 340 watts. But thats all i would avoid, the 13s or 14s. Amd still gets the nod with my 7800x3d build though, so intel better shape up.👍
I built my am5 build in the h6 flow, and it’s a phenomenal case.
I have the same motherboard as the one you were supposed to get in the first place. Great for the price.
If this doesn’t highlight the absurdity of the PS5 pro price at 700 nothing will.
Good solid build, i like the case, may use it. Grabbed that cooler master cube to play with.
that procesor gets 36% more speed on ddr5 ram so i would go for that ddr5 kit, check hardware unboxed video on this, and just cheap out on the case u dont need a 90euro case in a 800e build
The 6750XT is amazing value, imagine telling someone in 2018 you'll be able to get 2080 Ti levels of performance for $300 in the future.
best value and one of best stealth pc liked very much.
of the 4 motherboard ive ordered on amazon 2 have just come in the MOBO boxes and one looked like someone drop kicked it it as all dented pro tip is to order multiple things and tick the option to all come in one big box
Hey Greg I've being following you for a while and I would love to see and in depth cable management video, with all type of power supply (modular, semi and not) !
the orico brand makes those usb hubs , ssd/hdd enclosures etc .. using one of thier ssd enclosures , not too bad imo
i built my pc 4 years ago and now my motherboard is failing so i’m taking this as a sign to buy a new one
It is beyond Solid. It's what we call a Salazar PC
Includes 24/7 tech support! :-D
Wasn't Salazar in Resident Evil 4? 😂
Yeah, Amazon likes just slapping a shipping label on things and sending them. I got a Thermalright AIO (you aren't kidding about their prices) today and it was the same deal. Just slap a shipping label on the retail box and send it out. Then they left it sitting on my porch. 🙄 Luckily, it was still there when I got home from work.
I just gotta mention something that sort of got on my nerves in this video with the sound. Idk if you used a different bit of music in the background or something, but there's this chiming sound in the background track that sounds like the timer on my oven. So the whole time it just felt like my oven timer was going off in the background. 10:31 - 10:44 is where it's probably the clearest, but I'm so used to listening for the timer when I bake things that it just pierced right through for me. If this is the same background music you've always used, then idk why it's never stuck out to me before lol, maybe just mixed louder in this edit than usual?
It's like a "Ding, ding... Ding, ding... Ding, ding." Along with the music.
I use the b760m-p ddr4 edition and its awesome. Nice easy to set up motherboard nothing to crazy. I have my intel i7-14700f in their with the bios update to support 14th gen cpus and never had a problem with voltages. Great motherboard MSI never fails me on that part.
Broo that came out super clean👍😮💨
For no rgb**😂
Greg, my Man for your 'Team Red Platform' you Chose the Exact Same Components: Motherboard & CPU, I have in my 2nd Gaming PC !!
Literally building something similar, sored a 12600kf used for 110, and its fine. as well as 32gb kit ddr5
I think I’d have spent $5 more and gotten a Silicon Power 1TB. Love watching your videos Greg. I have a machine running a 12400 paired with a RX6600, runs great at 1080p.
In my truck I’m running a 12600kf paired with a rx6600. That little beast was running at 82 degrees this afternoon and it’s 100 degrees outside so the AC I use when I’m parked barely keeps it comfortable in my black truck when it’s 100 degrees outside, but while gaming I was dying so I quit gaming, idled the truck a few minutes to cool it off in here and now I’m watching this video.
We've used those as well. This drive seemed fine by all accounts. Testing updated in pinned comment. Forgot to include it in the video.
You put a PC in your truck? Why? 😂
@@GregSalazarTotally ignores the part where he says he built a PC in his truck. 😂
@@BREEZYM6015 to game while I’m waiting to get loaded or unloaded.
@@BREEZYM6015 actually built it in my house then put it in my truck and connected it to my tv in there.
I've been using Orico hdd and ssd enclosures for years and never knew they made SSD's as well.
i got the 12400 with a rx6000, its a perfect combo in my opinion
I also think we are going to see builds last alot longer now days. I have a b550 mobo, ryzen 5700x, 32gb ram, and a 6600xt for 1080p gaming and video editing.
My pc is very low power and has great performance I see myself using this computer for a very long time. I think the problem with the newer gen cpus is they are trying to push the power and cores and the performance in some of the higher end chips. I think we are seeing the limits of moores law. My only upgrade path is a newer 1080p card at lower power consumption thats what I am looking out for in the future! I am thankful I don't have to see Gregs nose hairs in 4k jk lol but seriously 1080p will remain good enough for me and my power bill agrees. Love the video Greg I think showing you can build a solid pc for 800 still shows theres good value out there that doesnt have to break the bank!
A cooler for the SSD is always recommended for the SSD health and performance ! ! And it cost not that much ...
Nice build Greg.
Also Orico make good stuff.
I have bought heaps of their stuff over the years. Not SSDs though.
i like the build. it's no bulls*it, performance only. if i were to build that, i'd just bite the bullet and get a few arctic fans to complete the build and make sure that gpu stays silent.
i have the same gpu btw and it's a loud one in my sff case :D maybe it doesn't enjoy being crammed into such a small space ..
anyhow, good video and good build :D
Since this is Solid, next could you build a Liquid Build for $800 or maybe even a Gas
def would go team red with cpu, upgrade path 5800x3d cannot be argued away imo.
What upgrade path? The 5800X3D is as high as you can go. It's the last of its generation. So unless you're talking about 5600 ---> 5800X3D (which wouldn't be a _huge_ jump, particularly IPC-wise), then it's EOL for AM4 at that point. And there's nothing wrong with that! But don't pick AM4 thinking it's "future-proof."
@@GregSalazar Why are you asking "What upgrade path" when i literally wrote 5800x3d? Why so passive aggresive dude? Your wrote "future-proof" yourself, :D weird. Im trying to understand your video and decision for the build.
"What upgrade path? The 5800X3D is as high as you can go" YES! that 250 dollar X3D is playing tennis with a 600 dollar 14900k which costs way more (not even talking about the additional problems+cost this 13/14 Degrading-Lake cpu gen brings). 5800x3d is even cheaper than 12900k, 13900k on ebay. 250 euros for a 5800x3d.
Because Am4 5600 is about 100$ cheaper, it is actually giving you two better options than your intel build (i hope i didnt miss something special about it).
Either you get am4 with 5600, upgrade to 16gb gddr6 6800 (360$ new), you saved money and you will most def have better gaming experience than your intel build OR you save 100 bucks for future upgrades or get a smaller motherboard for sff build?
You can even get a cooler that works for am4 and am5...Intel has the same upgrade pa, oh wait.
"which wouldn't be a huge jump, particularly IPC-wise" Good morning, but IPC doesnt say anything about gaming performance! That X3D part has no IPC uplift and is still better in gaming. Its AMD Magic Kappa 🙃
Its a drop-in part that cost 150 bucks more than a 5600. The diffrence between that 800$ intel and 5800x3d is only 50 bucks.
There are 800 $ am5 builds too...if you want to talk about future proof. Thats future proof to 2027+, but intel can offer this too right, oh wait.
just picked up a gaming laptop not to long ago with a i9-14900HX for how i have not seen any issues with it yet but did like the 32gb of ram that it came with for how I'm not complaining for it not coming with a 4070 that i would have loved in option
Sweet built I’m thinking going intel again but I’m really skeptical with all the controversy.
I also have a RX 6750 XT, although I have the ASUS discount version with only 2 fans, which I'm sort of regretting, since it can really ramp up those fans when under pressure and they make quite a lot of noise, so a 3 fan GPU would probably have been better. It is performing admirably, so there's that.
Man I would love to have a rig like this I’m still rocking a prebuilt on an am3 platform with a 1060 3gb because as a working father with a stay at home family I don’t ever have extra money for better pc stuff lol it’s a really sweet build though I’m jealous
for the case i can recommend the endorfy ventum 200 air (argb if wanted) its around 61€
I have that card and it's pretty good I've really enjoyed it
Recently i looked at my local shops for PC, i realized basically 90% of ready PC's have i5 12400F in it 🤣.
It's good value to drop overall price of the system i suppose, still too expensive for what i can afford atm.
Good video as usual 😊😊
I found that I overthink when buying storage. I spend hours trying to decide if the 1TB noname is worth it compared to a known brand that is 58€ instead of 51€.
I realized it's not really worth it and now go with reputable brands.
Losing your data is in many ways worse than another component breaking. Everything else you can just replace with a new item. But once your storage with your data breaks, it's gone if you have no backup strategy (which, let's be honest, us geeks do but your average Joe doesn't or hasn't made a backup in months).
You should be backing up sensitive data regardless of whether or not you're using a "reputable" drive.
My Computer Hardware teacher showed us this video in class.
This is a really solid build, mine was easily more expensive and just has a 10400, ddr4 32 gb and a 3060 ti. This has a lot more value it seems..
60 FPS is one thing with Starfield, it gets worse for me as a gamer when you have to enable fake frames (FSR/DLSS) to even get that. I skip on such games until I have the hardware to run it with at least 90 FPS (1% minimum) and without fake frames.
I build my son a similar one Amd 5 5600x , gigabyte 6750xt , Corsair 750w , 2 tb ssd, Nzxt 510 case, 16gb Corsair ram and Vetroo twin tower cooler.
Good content! Thank you!
No-bling blackout build, Daddy likey.
Thanks for this video.
I think the card will bend over time. the graphics card is very large, you could add a support to prevent it from bending
It'll be fine for several years.
I just built this same setup but with the 11400.i have a sn570 a 970evo and sn770 SSD.corsiar cx750 and nzxt 510 case.i love my 6750xt way better than my 3060
Do whatever it takes to save and get 7800x3d with the rest cheaper...and be good for the years
I think if GTA 5 being tested in the video, Greg please use the Max graphics settings as the GPU was not utilised even around 50% so it was not showing it's full potential!
Nice build, and for a DVD-less case, I actually like the design of it. Granted, I would much rather still have a case that supports optical media, but hey ho.
I also stuck with F1 2023 for much longer, but that was because I was hoping for a sale on F1 2024 (which I got). Also you don't really need FSR - 1080p high settings would perform similarly, as my RTX 3060Ti gets between 150 and 200 FPS on high settings at 1080p (depending on the track/conditions).
This seems fun
Great video!
Gregg i love your channel best regards from the uk, btw im rocking a 12600k i got from Amazon us for $150 6 months ago that included shipping and import tax
Real want to know the gpu. Don't know why but ya. (discord notification for the win)
Yeah XFX cards look nice. 🙂
With your B550 choice, the MSI GEN3 is essentially a B450 board which is without PCIe Gen 4. There are better options around $100.
We didn't buy a Gen 4 storage drive anyway, and the RX 6750 XT won't care in a vast majority of games. Buy whatever board ya want, but I was fine with this one.
@@GregSalazar Just a shame that MSI pulled that when most B550's have Gen4. I'd rather choose the Gigabyte B550 Gaming X V2 for the same price, but of course prices might not be the same when someone decides to build. Solid budget builds regardless, thanks for the content.
it been to long get this man to a million lest go people
Woulda invested in an AM5 build for future cpu drops (even though zen 5 sucks) ryzen 5 7600 type build & go from there 👍
GL fitting AM5 + DDR5 into an $800 budget along with a 6750 XT. You'll likely lose gaming performance with a weaker card. So nah. Not for me. Would prefer Zen 3 in that case, which we already discussed in the video.
Honestly I'm tired of people saying get am5 yes am5 is for the future but I'm pretty sure next year when idk am6 comes out everyone will tell you get that and call am5 dead 😮💨 I'm still rocking my am4 and I'm pretty sure it will be good for a few more years until am7 or whatever new chipset comes out
@@omegaturkey9249 Look a stupid intel shareholder :D calling am5 dead in 2025 while AMD has extended am5 to at least 2027+. Ohh such things are so easy to refute.
Gotta be honest if you can get the CPU and GPU at those prices this is one heck of a deal.
You can. We showed the listings in the video.
Very similar to the parts I just purchased yesterday, ha. Same mobo, CPU and CPU cooler, almost the same GPU (used 6700 XT), almost the same power supply (Corsair 650W). Fitting it into a Lian Li Dan A3 case.
I thought the 6750 XT called for a 800W minimum power supply? 550W is the only questionablr choice to me.
You definitely don't need a 800 watt power supply for a 6750xt, pretty sure they pull less than 300 watts and the processor I'm pretty sure is well under 100
that step brothers reference