Why Millennials HATE GenZs At Work -Millennials Decoded
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Working with GenZs is not easy.
And the frustration, the struggle, and the memes of older generations trying to manage them is the only beginning.
All of this comes from just the handful of GenZs old enough to work today, but they are 30% of the population and will become 30% of the workforce in a couple of years.
But us Millenials trying to manage them, we often forget how much GenXs and Boomers hated us.
We were entitled and lazy. We quit easily. Right?
So why does each generation struggle so much to deal with the next one? How true is it that millennials work less and that GenZs are even worse?
It’s the topic of countless articles, papers, and rants- but the truth about how each generation has been forced to adapt and navigate the reality of eventually replacing the older ones. It’s not a simple nut to crack- but let’s give it a shot.
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Hi, there, Millenials! We know you are there as you are the majority of our audience. 😎
How has been your experience working with other Millennials, Gen Z's, Boomers...
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@@peaceseeker714they've spent most of their existence being low-key and now they've been forgotten.
Their impact on entertainment can't be denied though.
As a Millennial who works with Zs, they seem like decent people, I just don’t care for a lot of their music. For the longest time they were all doing that stupid “Sheesh!” thing…thank god that’s died down, because I was getting close to putting my foot up somebody’s ass.
@@richardgrover No offence but this is the kind of thing boomers said about Gen X. Each generation says the younger one has a poor work ethic. Gen X worked hard (any job was a good job) because it was so important to be seen to work hard for what were terrible wages but houses were almost affordable for Gen X. So anyone who was smart enough to buy one is probably doing well even though they are burned out from working in low wage jobs. As a Gen X who has not bought a house, I'm in the same state as a millennial or Gen Z but without the up to date computer skills or ability to think on my feet as needed in the fast tech world today. The best asset we have is creative skills to come up with new ways to rearrange the system to suit us, which is not easy.
It is an interesting take. In general I think there shouldn't be a generational impression of the following generation, so much as a sense of responsibility to help provide a means and structure to succeed and survive. I went to school late, as a gen x with millennials, and I think mostly they were driven and on point regarding how to live.
I have a daughter who is a millennial and a gen z son. They are both better humans than me, and I worry every day what we are leaving to our kids.
Anyways, it's an interesting video, and I appreciate your insight.
My story as a millenial.
I grew up a child laborer under my boomer parents who lost their retirement to medical bills and the economic collapse just after 9/11 when my brother contracted leukemia. I was exploited for profit that purchased their yearly vacations that I wasn't invited on. I picked up a second job in highschool and had six years of work experience by the time I graduated when I picked up a third job. Once I got to university, I started working for Home Depot 60 hours a week while doing classes until the definition of part time got limited to 29 hours. When I was forced to pick up a second job after graduating to pay on my massive student loans, my boomer manager called me lazy for refusing to do work off the clock and told me that "He owned me", which came from corporate language that public sensitivities had to change and forced me to look for a different way to make ends meet. When my factory job wasn't enough to afford an apartment with my student debt, I decided to get my masters as a lifeboat to put my debt payments on hold. At this point, I was 27 with 30+ years of experience at more than 10 jobs that I had to hold two to three at a time to survive. It was my first experience of relief where my associate instructor pay gave me some breathing room but I had to take out student loans again, so I knew I would have to keep working and picked up gig economy work and worked as a bouncer during the late night.
My father died just before graduation and at that point family split, with my other boomer mother taking what was left of my inheritance from them to pay for her retirement with her new family. Covid stripped me of my first job after graduating with my M.S. and now it feels like I'm unhireable. I survive with gig-economy work and a remote recruitment firm paying me to be a candidate that no company is willing to touch because of AI rendering all of us obsolete. I am waiting for my contract to end and be cut out of the economy, which will likely lead to homelessness, yet I'm optimistic because my wife, a foreign Gen Z, is gaining traction in her career.
I'm overlooked as a worker, and my experience makes me think that it is related to my demographics. Life has been made harder by the demonization of my skin color, gender, and heritage which is so apparent, that I worry about why it hasn't stopped yet. I've been silent on it, for fear of retribution for so long that I now fear the violence that sets us back is looming closer, and potentially after that period of violent power redistribution, I'll be able to finally live like what I was taught the human experience is supposed to be like. Until then, I'm just trying to survive while keeping my sense of self.
As an IT manager who has had a number of Gen Z interns. I have no issues with them. They come in, get their shit done and get out. I don't expect people working with me or for me to put maximum effort when it will go unrewarded. To be honest I appreciate their more transactional nature when it comes to working. Helps remind me that most companies don't really care about workers.
That's very interesting. I reckon it's that the gen z have worked out that the concept of working hard or doing free overtime (for the corp) will make you successful in life, is just a ruse from the profit masters
Interesting !
@@neanda Except its really not just a "ruse" and working hard can actually change your life. Having the mindset that all hard work is a scam and that working harder/better than your peers won't advantage you in any way is wrong and harmful.
There are certain situations where you absolutely shouldn't work harder than you have to, but those are the minority of situations.
@@andguy I think the issue isn’t the hard work in of itself and more on the lack of relevant compensation.
Hard work is definitely an expectation some would question mostly when the task isn’t what they were hired for or unlikely to encounter unless promoted.
@@andguy It’s also a given not all businesses pushing for hard work are bad, just that it can be a standard practice off-the-books without documentation.
Im a gen z currently doing my own internship on tech startup, in which everyone is either millenial or gen z. And you know what, its great, my boss hears me out and respects my time, my coworkers are smart, educated, but not boring. So in regard to how millenials are as bosses, they are pretty neat.
That's great to hear! It's wonderful to see different generations working well together.
Damn where do you work? I'm also in tech but it's so hard to find an internship
My bosses also are albeit its in a factory but they are good which is surprising as everyone seems to hate them around just why
I do think millennials are better bosses while baby boomers were better employees. That was probably why millennials were unsatisfied. I'm gen z, and honestly having a millennial as a boss seems better than gen x or another age.
this is nice
An ageless phenomenon.
"The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority, they show disrespect to their elders.... They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and are tyrants over their teachers." Quote attributed to Socrates by Plato
Rising for an elder entering a room is absolutely a wild expectation.
@@sicsempertyrannis8731 This was like 2500 years ago, so it's actually surprising that only just ONE thing has changed since then.
depends on how accurate the translation is, this could be referring to the teacher entering the classroom or the head of a grandfamily or even head of a village @@sicsempertyrannis8731
aka not some random granpa cruising past
well it has reached a whole new level with the genZ
@@sicsempertyrannis8731not in Japan.
I am an older millenial and I just quit a job for the second time. What I noticed in my parents generation, is that they are much more hesitant to stand up for themselves and put up with insults and humiliation from bosses for much longer. Millenials and GenZ just realized that they don't have to put up with every insult and bad treatment their bosses sling at them.
You are absolutely correct. The tactic of splitting responsabilities of layed off worker amongst the remaining workers, regardless of skill set has been going on for generations. I admire Gen Z for not standing for it.
They were terrified of losing their jobs when they had a mortgage and kids to educate.
Millennials were quickly heading towards that gen z consensus before the 'financial crisis' forced a pause on things. It's funny that boomers still were able to buy up more power and assets after the housing crash.
What you want is another millenial for a boss. Then they get you on that more basic level and don't question things that should be acceptable behaviors.
Same here in germany!
All of this is cap. I don't know what's going on and who they're polling, but Millennials do not hate Gen Z. We're basically the same. Both of us are tired AF of the whole "generation vs generation" thing - it's corny. Same slang, we listen to the same music and go to the same clubs - this is a devisive take that serves CEOs and Captialists who want to keep the status quo.
Honestly, I don't see how the actual video has much to do with the title
It's clickbait, if you are saying all is crap you definitely didn't watch video even a bit.
Side note: I learned that “cap” basically means “lie” from another youtube post just before I watched this video and saw your comment.
@@chrispjr Yeah, it means false
I’m X. The idea that we didn’t go through the exact same shit as what Y and Z are is absurd. I graduated law school in 2001 and have been averaging 50-60 working hours the entire time. It’s CLASS, not generations, not race (not that he mentioned that) that’s the driving the wedge between Americans, most just don’t see it. America is run by Corporations. That’s why we can’t have the basic necessities of life like housing, guaranteed health care, education, and nutrition. I dont hate other generations any more than the previous ones hated me coming up.
Being called lazy for wanting to work only 8 hours a day just blows my mind.
8 hours a day is still too much.
Most people that are very successful work a lot more than eight hours that is not going to fall in your lap. Looks like you'd be able to learn the hard way
@@hainleysimpson1507 Well then your unemployable. Cry about it
"when I was your age, I worked 60 hours a week!"
Yeah dude, but see, when YOU worked overtime, you were making EXTRA money, above your living expenses. You were saving for a house, or a car, or just something else you wanted for yourself,and it was achievable, with enough" hard work".
Nowadays, people work 50-60 hours a week and still barely afford their rent and basic living expenses, and if you wanna put money in savings, you have to literally dedicate yourself to living on beans and rice for the next five to ten years, and living like a pauper. And boomers will unironically tell us to "live within our means", without acknowledging the fact that there are SO many things that they didn't require, that are absolute necessities to survive and be successful in the modern world.
@@TheGravygun ok boomer
As a millennial, nothing was more frustrating than to hear my boomer boss say "kids don't want to work these days" because every young new hire would quiet quit after two weeks. Like, maybe it's because the job is minimum wage, high demanding, high risk for sickness (healthcare setting) with no possibility of promotions, raises or climbing the career ladder? It's a dead end job with crap pay and no promises. What did he expect?
ALso so many jobs are more technical nowadays, and just "working hard" doesn't work. You need to have skills to do specific, more technical tasks. BAck in the day, boomers would do extra paperwork or mail or cover the phones to look busy; all that stuff got automated away though
At least they know its a dead end job. In the jobs I worked between being 20-30 the carott was always there for a promotion, but no promotion was ever made.
Gen Z learned it from their parents that it's all a Scam.
You can’t start at the top pay rate.
The problem is that older people mix up this ideology with practicality. I think very young people agree in theory but if they need to have rich parents to pay their bills until they are 27, or have to live three hours from the job, then it doesn't make sense to take the job. @@RVBadlands2015
I remember being a teen in the 2000s and working my first job and people quitting with a no call no show and never being heard from again. its not something new. I don't know why some millenials think that its some new shit that gen z does and that they are entitled or something. People would quit over a manager saying one bullshit thing or giving them shit hours. They're just coming up with a term for it because people can coordinate and share stories over the internet much more effectively than we could. Social media wasn't a thing for me until I was 19 and what we talked about on the internet was much different than what people talk about today.
Im a 30+ millenial and I literally feel like im only working to "get by". I haven't gone on a real vacation since 2009! This is not life! Im so burned out though I keep pushing.
my last vocation was 2012 :D still hope to have a life and not to exist
I had a vacation in 2023, but I think before that it was maybe 2008? Same as you, been grinding. Finally got my foot through the door on a home, though. Took a while.
thas crazy, 30+ here and went on holiday last year
"Millennials don't want to grow up"
Me: Kinda hard to "grow up" when working two jobs STILL can't even pay rent for an entry level apartment.
Edit: Good lord, people, it's a RUclips comment, not a Town Hall meeting.
Exactly.
Nailed it.
This ☝️
then get a better job.......
@@divifilius4957 i've heard of 50 hour jobs paying $15 an hour. is that ok? nope.
When your employer isn’t loyal to you, you aren’t loyal to your employer
Its also a workers market now. When Boomers entered the workforce, it was an employers market because of the abundance of workers, but the scarcity of skill is forcing companies to actually pay people who know trades much higher wages and not bust their balls over stupid things.
Karma is like 69. You get what you give.
@@jcamp788 Might have something to do with all the kids getting liberal arts degrees instead of learning something that pays the bills.
@@georgefarley6502 A 2010s inaccurate insult. Up there with the dumb and over used, “I identify as an Attack Helicopter joke”.
@@90skidcultist Not really , try finding an American born engineer . Go to the college’s and see where the majority of engineering , math , science and computer science students are from , I’ll guarantee you’ll find that they are not American born .
As someone born halfway through 1980, I straddle both the Gen X and Millenial generations. I like the the term Xennial.
It's been really strange seeing myself as an adult since the examples of adulthood I was exposed to as a kid don't exist anymore. My dad was a teacher in a public school and was able to support a family of four, own a home, and retire with a union pension on a single income. We weren't rich but we were ok. With the cost of living, housing, food, services, and the fact that everything is a subscription/rental now, my income that is double what his was on paper doesn't go nearly as far.
As someone who was laid off after the pandemic, trying to get back into the workforce in a full-time position with almost 20yrs of experience or cobble together a stable income has been challenging. I "paid my dues" did the startup thing, have a side-hustle, and realize that this could be my working life going forward. No security, no regularity, jumping project to project and gig to gig in industries that are being infiltrated by AI and farmed or offshored through sites like Fiverr and Upwork.
I've been working a full time corpo job for 5+ years now as a 30 y/o millennial, I've seen how "loyalty" gets rewarded with multi decade old employees being let go for frivolous reasons. I've been a quiet quitter from the very beginning, still got a couple promotions and pay bumps over the years, but I'm not going to bend over backwards for a massive company that sees me as another worker ant. Computing made productivity explode yet we work more than ever while earning less when adjusting for inflation, and the boomers want to call us lazy, I'm popping the champagne when the last of them hit the dirt.
While I don't agree about the, "hit the dirt" part, but I agree with you. When companies started shifting their loyalty to money over the worker, no wonder the work stopped being loyal to the company. CEO's prioritize making the company look profitable to share holders by cutting pensions, salaries, and benefits. These share holders, see the increase in profit, and think the company is doing good, Then they pay the CEO's stock options as bonuses, which are tax free, and they repeat the process, which make the stocks go up again. All we are to any large company is an necessary expenditure of profit. They would replace us with robots if they could.🤨🙄
Love how they act like they didn't literally vote for the policies that now are ruining the current generations social and financial upward mobility. I hate champagne but save a glass for me please.
Gen z don’t want to spend any more of their precious time at a corporate soul sucking facility than they have to and don’t want to perform tasks that they aren’t being compensated for?
Yea I fuck with that
@@farmanspickles2753 Where's the problem? They can spend their free time how they want to.
@@Dageka When is the last time you killed something larger than a rodent?
@@farmanspickles2753 Why do you ask?
@@Dageka I am wondering how soft of a life you live and want to know if I am right or wrong.
@@farmanspickles2753 And that's the question you ask? Because killing stuff equals being hard? What if a hunter goes to TikTok after work and think about genders and pronous, would that fry your brain? Also, what does it matter how hard or soft someone is?
My manager HATED my guts and attitude. I was a top performer but I set my own work life balance and this infuriated my petty 50 year old manager. She didn't like that I had a life outside of work and tried multiple times to kick me out of my job and instead of helping me, made my life much worse. I quit after 6 months and got a job that pays double.
I HATED her so much.
If your manager is 50 years old then they aren’t even a Gen x
Way to go there is always money down the street and sometimes more
I'm sorry to hear that happened to you, Apple Peel. Hang in there!
How can you change one job to an other and be paid double? Which industries were they?
@@captainchaoscow IT sector, Finance sector jobs
I’m gen x.
My oldest are gen z and yrs covid just decimated them financially. Most of my friends have kids that are older and keep lecturing me I coddle my kids too much.... when I was 19 I could walk in anywhere and get a good office job, easily find a crappy $1500 car, $500 apartment. Employers would work with college schedules and second or third jobs. My kids don’t get that kind of luxuries that I enjoyed in the late 90’s and I hate it. I keep wishing I could transport them back in time. Cars in that condition are 6k now, those same apartments are 1200+ and many beginner jobs start full time only to slash hours and give crazy ass schedules that make it impossible to get a second one.
Kids not wanting to over time for a multi-billion dollar company for basically no pay sounds like an issue with the companies rather than a issue with the kids.
Not wanting your work to abuse you and monopolize your time... Good for them. I feel the same way.
Gen X’r here, I think?? Born in 69, anyway.
I’ve never wanted work to abuse me or monopolize my time. Who would? I don’t think we’re as different as is portrayed.
@@cassietherainbowsend722 that's why this whole video seems like dishonest bullshit. It's the same thing genx and boomers said about millennials. Non of that turned out to be true. Things change. Adapt or die mad. Seems the creators of this vid chose the latter.
@@cassietherainbowsend722 Yes, that movie "Working Girl" was a page turner which illustrated how difficult it was to be a working woman but it hasn't changed and has gone backwards in many cultures
FActs, why treat a corporation like a daddy when they just see you as a number. Like FOH, apparently it's bad when you're selfish, but it isn't when corporations are selfish 🙄
Well said.
I'm a millenial who just turned 36 and I swear I am so burned out and stressed at this point. My job fired a lot of us and handed those extra workloads to the remainder of us. Then these companies have the audacity to complain about how lazy we have become and how grateful we should be because we still have work. Yet everyday we're threatened with more staff cuts and threats with temps slowly replacing us. This is my third job that has the same toxic work environment. I'm done with all this sh**. Why should I kill myself when I can barely afford anything anyways. Fuq this place.
It's not the generations that suck. It's the corporations.
@@jaydub7386yep! Notice how the media is always trying to stir up division between people. Boomers vs Millenials, men vs women, black vs white, left vs right. Always getting us to be mad at each other instead of who we should really be mad at.
I feel you, 31 yo here; I quit job 1st time in my life, because I tried my best,
then average because of my health going down drastically, now I'm scared what's next
because 6 years ago I ended up in a hospital from such amount of stress,
mobbing and overworking my body and brain even tho what I did was just above
average. But that was after 1,5 years of work, now I'm in such state after just 2 months.
Doctors aren't willing to listen to my health problems, so I'm trying to reach to other ones,
which takes time when I cannot sit here and work out of boredom. Me and my boyfriend
are trying to make ends meet and we gave up on many hobbies of ours,
which makes out life even more empty... oh, and I remember applying to work at small shop,
hearing that "you dare to ask for being trained for free? and then you gonna quit after a month
to use that free training we will give you!" ....when all I wish is to work few years in one place to feel stability
and some dang peace in my life.
Thats life. Stop complaining & embrace the struggle. That is what your ancestors did. You lack gratitude & mental fortitude. Start watching videos on stoicism on youtube & see your net worth grow tremendously within 6 months.
@@sydnacious4239 yay,hustle culture!
As a Millennial with a Gen Z kid and two Gen Alpha kids, I cry nearly every day. Not for myself, but for my babies and their futures. I almost feel guilty for even bringing them into this world sometimes. I just do my best to teach them about life in the complete opposite way that my Gen X parents did. Growing up I was told, get good grades, go to college, graduate, get a well paying job with your degree, find love, get married, buy a house, have kids. I did all of those things minus the well paying job and buying a house. That’s not saying I didn’t try my hardest to complete them all. I tried my damndest but I quickly realized that it just doesn’t work like that anymore. Not for a lot of us anyway.
Now I’m a single mother of three who’s contractor job gets us by. I save, my kids never go without, I’m frugal. My family says I am the cheapest person they have ever met and it’s true, but you can be cheap and still have nice things. I try to be smart with my income and instill that in my kids. I do my best to give them the life they deserve. It’s hard at times, but I just try to remember that it could always be worse. Stay grateful. 99% of us are all in this together ♥️
Wow you are an everyday hero it sounds! Way to go. I am not a single mother, but I can totally understand where you are coming from. I am also worried for the future of my kids, too, sometimes. Our family are Christian - so I have the Bible as a guide, no matter what the current trends are - it makes life easier. Otherwise it is so easy to get confused and scared. We live in uncertain times! Praying for extra strength for you and your family.
Being a single mother was the problem..if you had them out of wedlock your a loser and if you were married you stick it out the vows state half of your marriage is hard work….
Gen Z are depressed and anxious because they were raised on smart devices and social media. These things seem to wreak havoc on young developing minds.
As a Gen X (44) with Millenial kids ... the last statement struck home. Make the world better than "our parents".... meanwhile the parents of my generation are STILL the ones in control of everything. The longer people work, and never retire, and never step down from politics --- the LONGER it will be for the following generation to get their turn leading.
Millennials are the first generation since the great depression to have things worse than their parents. The millennials were born in 1980. All of this can be blamed on reaganomics and the republican party in general. Here is the proof..
1940-1980 Median wage growth rose 260% 1981-2020 Median wage growth rose 5.4%. Only BS trickles down. Not wealth
Tell that to the next person who complains about liberal, socialist, or progressive agendas.
You're right.
Thank you
So true. People in politics are so old now, they look like ancient relics to me. Even worse they are so old they don’t know what’s going, let alone can they keep up with or understand the incredible changes we are going through. I have to add that I know old people that are incredibly smart with fine tuned wise minds. People like that are incredibly valuable.
I agree, it is challenging for young generations to access positions of power and lead. We need to find ways to bridge the generational gaps and work together.
@@cyrileo I agree with you, it’s simply absurd that people in their 70’s and 80’s are running the world 1960’s style in 2020’s. But many of them seem to be addicted to their position of power.
My boomer parents got their first house when they got married at 16 and 19. In their 20s they got their second house, and started renting out their first house for extra income. After some time they sold it because the quality of renters meant that they had to keep repairing the house when they moved out and trashed it.
Then they lost their home in 2008 or so due to their adjustable rate mortgage going up too high to pay. They rented for a year and then bought a new house, and a few years later acquired a second house. Incredible really. I have yet to get my first house and I'm almost 40.
I fail to see your point, unless you want to blame inflation making product gitty to make its number higher.
i feel your pain
@@WitchKing-Of-Angmarit’s not really inflation….. the US housing market so f@cked beyond belief where the value of the property just doesn’t make any sense.
@@WitchKing-Of-Angmar Boomers have tons of wealth. Either in investments like property, stocks or simply stacked from decades of being in high paid authority positions. No generations following even have a fraction of the wealth.
Millenial here, 36. Well I was never and will never be able to own a flat or a house. Where I live that means you need to have at least 250000 $ as a starter to get a loan from the bank for the rest 750000 $ because there is no property below a million thats worth buying. So I have to stick to rent until I fall off the tree. Owning a property in Switzerland means you have to be born rich or have a high income.
Boomers hated gen-x’rs too. I’m tail end gen-x beginning millennial depending on what graph you’re looking at. Had to read books for book reports, had no idea who was calling unless we had an answering machine, rotary phone, can remember having to earn a trophy in sports and was there when participation trophies showed up while I was in sports, learned to code in basic and then in C. World wide internet showed up when I was a teen but internet was around already (since the 70s) but was different. Had to call different servers and bulletin boards (I was already on the internet before it went into a combined server system- world wide internet. The burn out graph has gen x, millennial, and gen z are almost the same.
I feel like most of this inter-generation hatred is conditioning from media relying on the ol geezer narcissistic injury stick(socrates rant to plato) to stir up tribal wars like sports fans. "my sport team/generations this, your sport team/generation that". People are just trying to survive with the tools they were given at the end of the day.
38 now. I graduated a bit late, 26. My first job was an internship post college during the great crash with 2 internships during college. At the time I felt like I settled but wasn't finding anything. It turned out to be a 5+ year job at a single company with many promotions. I guess I am a lucky one.
I'm a millennial and this is my perspective on things: boomers are better workers but terrible bosses, millennials are better bosses but can be a bit apathetic as workers and genz come to work, do the job and leave. Of the 3 generations I've found genZ is the only one that treats a job as what it is which is a transactional agreement of hire based on skills. The moment that agreement is breached they leave. I actually admire that about them. They say people treat you how you let them. GenZ is teaching the current employers how they wish to be treated which is with respect for their time and skills.
yep
I am an age 54 gen x'r and I do agree that there has been somewhat of an awakening and a shift to the transactional nature of most jobs. Most large companies no longer provide a career path, it's all BS. It's a paycheck. You will be axed in a heartbeat so they can make this quarters numbers. Doesn't matter how good you are, you can simply be in the wrong spot and show up on HRs spreadsheet. Why devote an inordinate amount of your time when really, the employer has made it transactional. They don't provide a career. They don't have loyalty. No pension. Any benefits are very expensive. When they cut, the remainder are expected to pick up the workload without more pay. I cannot blame you for doing what's required, nothing more, and leaving for anything better.
Interesting. I have to respect GenZ for that approach. It makes a lot of sense.
If boomers didn't already have their retirement fundation sacked and expect to live in their own house with a livable retirement income, they would be "terrible" workers too. I still have to work over 20 years, possibly 25 or more depending on future politics and I just don't see anymore why I should work my ass off to end in poverty while most of the value I generate will be used for rich people's secondary yachts.
As a Millenial that started a career in freelance first, i fully appreciate the transactional nature of work, it was actually pretty tough making my way into a big production company at first because of the weird expectations people seemed to have of "giving 110%" Why?.. So i can be rewarded with more work? Pass, at least my freelance work is something i choose to do and find rewarding.
I'm a millennial, have few Gen-Z coworkers - normal people, working as they should be. Although I do see differencies - they do take care of themselves more - never skip lunch brakes and such. I have LOADS of gen-X coworkers who just keep stacking vacation days - apparently they never went on vacation prior getting married?.. Some of them skip lunches, a lot more smoking.
Edit: I'm from Europe and taking vacations is encouraged by both, government and employer.
Gen-X grew up in a work environment where being competent tended to get you saddled with the most responsibility. This has resulted in one or more instances of vacation trauma, where if a competent person takes extended time off, the whole division suffers a set back of some kind. Ergo, many begun to consider vacation a risk, rather then an escape. Because if you are gone too long, you have a bigger mess to clean up when you come back. And when they do take a long vacation, someone else is in the driver's seat. Odds are a Gen-X already went someplace cool with the family when they were kids, so travel probably isn't a high priority until they have their own family.
Its simultaneously pragmatic and deceptively apathetic (which is a very Gen-X trait); as in its centrally about avoiding both short term and long term consequences, as Gen-X is emotionally detached from the Company itself (and its upper management), but is still constantly concerned about their work space and workflow. All of this stems from the fact that GenX just wants to make it to retirement without another disaster setting things back yet another 5 years. We're the last generation to still have hope for that. So if they are below a certain salary line, they're probably just playing it safe for now. If above a certain salary line, and requires actual skill sets to be there (IE not a pure manager), you WILL see a worker that "dares" the company to try something stupid. Because odds are, if they walk, that whole division will come to stand still.
I don't know how far this extends to the rest of the work force, but the job sectors I work in, if you get a competent team put together, you better HOPE the one with the most friends doesn't find a better job. Because in 6 months, if that new job works out, that first one will try to bring all their friends to that new job to keep the crew together. We're long past the point thinking we're gonna change anything; so priorities have shifted toward just being comfortable at work, and ride it out as much as we can. And with job security being as bad as its been for the last decade and a half, I'd absolutely hate trying to look for a new job in general; but what I'm more concerned about is if I'll like/tolerate the people at the new place. If you run a place so badly, that that kind of worker is willing to leave, the others aren't that far behind. And ironically, if your company is that badly run, they're probably just looking for an excuse to hire new blood for half the pay.
@@freelancerthe2561 One of the saddest things about Gen X is it's where these problems all started which have flowed into becoming bigger problems with each following generation. With Boomers unwilling to relinquish power, money and control to their children, instead choosing to horde it and keep their children down. Gen X is the first entrepreneurial generation and it was done not because they wanted to, it was because they needed to, because wage work didn't pay. Each following generation becoming more desperate to find ways to make money as the middle class evaporates and wealth inequality between generations grows.
This is so weird, Im also in Europe and it’s my first job. I was told by my millennial coworkers to pit your calendar as busy everyday during lunch time so no one bothers you.
I'm a millennial. Around the time I started my job, one of my coworkers advised me never to go out of my way to impress the bosses, because then they'd expect that kind of performance *all the time*. It was good wisdom. I work at about 80% capacity most of the time, and dial it up when a deadline is looming. Everything gets done on time, and I get to leave by 5 most days with little stress.
Yes, vacation just means you return to a sh*t show and nobody covered your work properly because you are the one on the team that gets the most done….Makes it a mixed blessing to have time off.
As a millennial, I taught my daughter to have (several) skils/trades as well as career (she's currently in university with a 30 hour job and her own little company)
My parent who are Jehovah's Witnesses, sold their house to rent and go on lots of holidays.
I will always be a renter, but I hope my daughter can have a more secure life, but its scary being a parent of a gen z.
a house costs an actual fortune yet i still beat myself up for not being able to afford one
I'm a millennial and I don't know any millennials who don't like the younger generation. We are so proud of you guys and we're rooting for your success!!!
For real, video title is either clickbait or misinformed over-generalization.
It's the same garbage that all the prior generations have done.
They get old and crabby, then want to complain about the next generation so they feel better about themselves.
I'm a millennial myself and had to deal with boomers and Gen X tell me I'm lazy and don't work that hard and bla bla bla.
All while I was skipping breaks and lunch to keep working. Eventually they say you're the exception, but that's just because you prove them wrong and they still want to believe what they think is true. It makes them feel better.
The only think I have about gen Z is the genetics. The men seem to be taller and skinnier compared to prior generations. Seems rather strange I see that more common now.
I also hate the hair cuts, but millennials do it also.
@@tristanlong7 You're a lazy fool. I work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, non-stop. No breaks/lunch either.
Exactly. Gen Z be ready to meet you at the _line!_ Like “Wassup?!?”
That’s scary to CEOs, that’s why they’re trying to aim us at each other.
I'm a millineal. I I've worked with alot of Gen Zers. Someone of which I loved but needed guidance and some of which were nightmares and can give the whole generation a bad name. Some individuals would make it easy to stereotype the whole group if they were the only Gen Zers I met. Luckily I've been exposed to a range of people and can say that all generations have shitty people and all generations have amazingly sweet, smart, hard working, innovative members of their generation.
I am a millennial, I have made it my goal to NEVER work a 50 hour week. No way, no how.
Facts
I got called out on this several times working for GenX'ers. Just because I was a salaried employee, I was supposed to be available 24/7, all the while being underpaid. They were used to that. In fact, the whole industry was known for it. If you can find a gig that gets you some amount of comfortable life, try to stick with it.
The only way I would justify 50hr weeks is if I am working for myself. Gen Z btw
50 hour is week is WAY TOO LOW. I often work 84 hours on very average weeks. Seven days. If i work 70 hours a week, I will call myself a lady.
@@shepherd7331 I hope you get paid a fair amount for those hours. I don't get paid anything for working overtime. There's a **chance** of a bonus at the end of the year, but only if the company is doing well.
Millennial here. My problem with Gen-Z and under in the workplace, both in places I've visited and places I've worked, is that they seem to be fundamentally unable to live without their phones or electronics, and they just don't like being told to do their job. This is in urban and suburban locations alike.
In one of my previous jobs, I had a couple Z's on my teams, and getting them to stop using their phones and actually focus was nigh impossible. They would get legitimately anxious or have focus problems because they couldn't have their phone in their pocket. And the only reason they weren't allowed to have their phones was because management saw them sitting around, scrolling on said phones more often than they were doing actual work. They were given a chance to improve, and instead it made them worse. They were given an ultimatum: put the phones away when coming in to work, or get fired. And they HATED that. One guy cried because it made him so stressed out to calmly be told to put his phone down. By calm, I mean a casual "Hey man, please put that away. Twitter can wait." from a manager.
They complained about the single tasks given, citing that it's boring, or unfulfilling, or too complicated for them... despite the fact that they took the job knowing what their work would be and what was expected of them, and assured us they were equipped to handle it. I've seen this in more than a couple places. They're often (but not always) mentally checked out, and just kind of riding through the day on cruise control.
Granted, this isn't entirely their own fault, because they were given and raised by these devices, and now they struggle to cope without it, even in small bursts. But the lack of ability to mature and to just do their work is baffling. It's frustrating and makes the rest of us have to work more to compensate for their proverbial absence. They never wanted anything changed in the workplace, they just hated being in one at all. A lot of them seemed to be pretty spoiled and privileged, comfortable coasting on their parents' money, and now salty that they can't anymore.
cuz it's all we got. we can't afford homes, trailers, cars, and never will. Millennials complain about the cost of living, gen Z gave up before we were even adults.
If any one is reading through the comments, the top one here is exactly how *not* to manage employees.
The concept that maturity is tied to mirroring an older generation is inefficient and a lost cause from the start, but this is how much of American management functions, because it’s more “cost effective” in the moment; from the price of the un- or under-trained manager, to the disposable employee hired to fill what’s really just a quota.
@@TJDeLuca I mean, I'm speaking from experience, not objectively. It's a little telling when there's a massive problem with the employee's performance themselves, in technical and non-technical workplaces, and management gives them 10 chances to improve, and they take none of it. I've never worked at a company that's a revolving door, but I've seen 2-3 people get fired, and every time, it was for irreparable mistakes or severe lack of discipline. And I'm not talking about sass or falling a bit behind on work. I'm talking about unwilling to do basic parts of their job description, and unwilling to put their phone down when things get hectic or pressure is building. It's like the phones are a comfort blanket, but everything in the world is outside the comfort zone.
It hinders everyone else and makes everyone's lives harder.
And I'm not faulting the younger generation for it directly, but rather their parents and the systems they grew up in, that demonstrated and reinforced that this behavior is acceptable, or at least not a problem.
Nobody has to be like everyone else. But if you're going to get a job, actually do the fucking job, y'know?
When the economy tanked, my boomer Dad lost his job and I couldn't find one. He ended up having to postpone his retirement and took on three jobs, and I took on two. We were clearly overqualified for these jobs, but we did it so we could keep the house. It took two years, bouncing from job to job, but also keeping two to three jobs each move. After that period of time, my Dad got his old job back and I ended up going into the military. That was the hardest I've ever see my Dad work and thankfully he was able to retire, albiet 4 years behind the curve.
As a GenX starting a business mostly employing GenZs, this video has been incredibly insightful and helpful. I was planning on implementing a 4-day work week some time down the road when we become successful. This video changed my mind. We're moving to a 4-day work week now. Subbing to your channel now.
Thank you. I am a millenial who is lucky enough to work 4 days /week, but that is only because my boss (gen x..?) is more flexible than most. It does make a difference. The longer hours can be rough, but having the extra day off more than makes up for it (for me). They will appreciate it.
4 day work week will increase productivity, lower stress levels, and cut employee turnover significantly which saves you money.. IT's great to see a business owner actually caring about their business and understanding that employees can be productivity with some quality of life changes.
Based and work life balance pilled
What type of business? Sounds interesting.. . . .
What kind of business? Are you hiring?
Don't hate on Gen Z. I remember being hated on as a Gen X, we were called the slacker generation before we even had a chance to do anything.
“And these children that you spit on
As they try to change their worlds
Are immune to your consultations.
They're quite aware of what they're going through.
- Changes”
― David Bowie .
Umm...Bowie was a Boomer. That song was written in 1971
@@rubyruby6358 But the attitudes of the old to the young just repeat. It's a never ending cycle. As far as Bowie being a boomer, it isn't really relevant here. Boomers weren't born old and inflexible, and were judged harshly by their elders. They just often became that way when they forgot how they had been treated.
@@chalkedlines8960 its endless you are correct. Today’s Gen Z will eventually become boomers. The greatest generation is something we will never see again
As a boomer who grew up poor I can relate to how the X Y Gen feels about the hopelessness. You are surrounded by everything you desire but have little hope of attaining it. I felt the same way but put my head down and kept pushing forward. Nothing stays the same forever. You have to set yourself up for the opportunity when it presents itself cuz it does not happen very often. Being honest with yourself will help you decide what you really want and avoids you taking wrong directions. Nowadays mistakes seem to be brushed off as no big deal but they are costly to you. Forgive yourself when you make them but learn from them as well. Theses are the two things that helped me a lot.
- Simple is best
-Better is the enemy of good.
Oh hey, another cool boomer. Keep up the great work.
What is called a "generation" is really just a difference in the pervasive material conditions of the formative years. The material conditions of people born in the 60's and 70's are different than those of the 80's, 90's, and 2000's. A person who was born in 1970 can easily relate to those born in 2000, if they are both exposed to comparable material conditions.
For instance, I was born in last quarter of 1980 (technically Gen X, but more millennial). However, I have more in common with people born in the 90's and 2000's because I gravitate toward technology more than most people my age. I've had a wider exposure to information and ideas than most people my age. My own material conditions have lead me to seek answers to questions I have about why the current state of society is what it is. Therefore, I agree with Gen Y/Z sentiments about the current status quo.
I have student debts that I can never pay back and no degree to help me pay for it, since my financial aid ran out and couldn't afford to finish.
The younger generations recognize that they are being exploited by the owners of capital. The employers have no sense of loyalty and accountability to us. Therefore, Gen Y/Z have responded in kind by refusing to be loyal to employers. The term "act your wage" is valid for a reason. Gen X/Y/Z are the result of capitalist hegemony that has culminated into working people today recognizing that employers are fully willing an able to exploit the workers. When they are no longer of benefit, they are cast off. This is often to disastrous results for the displaced workers.
Gen X/Y/Z are not "lazy". They are just waking up to how little the ruling class values them, which is not at all. We are an asset to be used and disposed of at the whim of capital.
I am a millennial and I work at a non-profit. I find these generational wars interesting because the way I see it, there are hard works and lazy workers in every generation. There are some boomers/Gen x at my job with bad attitudes, who refuse to learn anything new and then there is the complete opposite who know everything new and is always adapting. Same with gen Z. I have a gen z lady I work closely with and she is so dedicated and another who I ask myself all the time what she does at work all day. Same with my own group.
For the smugness of a lot of boomers, I do have to laugh. I am the youngest child in my family and my eldest sibling is Gen X. My grandparents were in the greatest generation and they never had much of a kind word to spear for my parents/aunts and uncles in the silent and boomer generations. They thought they were entitled and that all of them had an easy time in life and didn't know what it was to work hard or have humility. So it is interesting how attitudes repeat/smugness repeats.
Yep. It’s the same ole same ole. Nothing new here.
just that the silent generation is spot on boomers, the most privileged generation to have ever lived
This. People who work or study very, very hard are always a rarity, regardless of the generation. Virtually all people are varying degrees of lazy, both intellectually and physically. And how hard a person is able to work will vary depending on other things going on in their life; for instance, chronic sleep deprivation due to a problematic neighbor can absolutely wreck your condition, and will make it nearly impossible to get work done, no matter how much of a workaholic you might be by nature.
Weird, it's almost like the year you were born doesn't really fuckin matter or something when it comes to attitude.
I'm a Millennial who is a teacher beginning to work with Gen Z new teachers coming in.
I have to say, I really have zero issues with them. If anything, they share my loathing hatred for pointless bureaucracy and busy work. And they have good ideas for things to change.
If anything I hate articles and videos that try to generate conflict between our groups. We were (and still are) infantilized despite being *in our thirties* and Gen Z in their twenties are getting the same treatment if not worse.
Every generation is hard on the younger one (except this Gen X who never had kids)
Maybe you guys can compare action figures
I definitely feel your last line that you wrote. I'm a young millennial, but i'm still 29. Being treated as if i know nothing about anything, and anything I say is invalid because I can't possibly know because I'm "too young." I can't imagine how bad Gen Z has it in the work force.
Divide and conquer
@@louisejoelbut if the older generation wasn't hard on the younger generation the younger generation never learns to work under pressure.
Can't believe I'm old enough that the two generations younger than mine are bickering with each other. Just shovel me into my grave already 💀
I really enjoyed this video, thank you! I have worked union my entire adult life in a right-to-work state. Knowing that there is a contract book that spells out EVERYTHING that could possibly come up and how I should react and what compensation I will receive has been awesome. When I hear about how many of these kids are being treated it infuriates me.
Yes there are a lot of problems with unions, but they are not widespread and can be overcome with respectful collective bargaining.
One other thing my generation (X, as I just learned) is that we dropped the ball on mentorship. I mentor people every day now, and try hard to teach the things that I was not taught by my parents. We need to break that cycle and HELP each other vs. watching the next generation struggle just because "we had too". That is BS and we need to stop it.
My girlfriend is a Gen Z starting her career. She entered the job market in late 2019 then there was the 2020 pandemic and her company closed down. Those few months in her resume are working against her, it looks as if she could not even finish a year in one company, on top of it, her previous company does not even exist anymore for recommandation... For that, its hard to get into the job market.
I would advise her to contact her former boss, if she was close to, for the recommandations, and the boss can use his new company name and explain how great she was before the economic layoff.
My friend you know you can lie on these resumes. They just need to see something.
@@Szcza04 This works against you. If your employer follows up on your references from your only professional career job, you can get called out on it. Professional circles can be small. Don't start as the liar. How do I know? I was laid off 7 months into my first job in 2009 when our company deal fell through. Interviewers did not take into account how the financial crisis was affecting all industries. I was in the same position as your GF. I recommend telling the truth, though I will admit that I had a hard time getting my second job. It took a year and a half. The author of this video is telling the truth. Side hustle is real, if you don't have money. At least your GF is getting some support from you. I knew nobody.
@@gofofoloz I think lying depends on how extreme it is, how likely you are to be found out, and the size of the industry. Everybody exaggerates on their resumes now so if you are not you will be passed up for people who will. If there is no way for them to contact the employer since they closed down it might not hurt to "round up" the start date to the nearest full year and "round up" the end year as well and play it as two years for example. If you worked Dec 2013 - Feb 2014 you just put you worked there for 2013 and 2014, with the implication that you worked for 2 years. Especially for an entry level job you just need to get something to get started, no reason to die on that hill. You can be more honest and direct in the interview, the main thing is getting the interview in the first place so you have the chance to sell yourself and explain why things are the way they are.
@@Szcza04 you can only do that in retail or restaurants or whatever those kinds of jobs are. professionals and government workers are much more likely to check and when they do it's likely to have much worse consequences down the line for your reputation.
Gen-Z college student here, a small thing studying fully online for two years during covid has given me is: No longer being able to do online lessons or talks without severe discomfort or just straight up needing to close because my minds screams at me. I am doing very well now both in my study and life in general. But if this corona scar remains when I hit the workforce I have a big problem. And I am certain I am not the only one.
Yup, my social anxiety has gotten so bad since covid. I never really got to get adjusted before covid freshman year. It's like I'm stunted
I'm a Get z college student and I agree with you
Not at all the only one
Same with me. I had multiple panic attacks in class when we went back in person. I couldn’t handle it anymore. The social impacts of COVID will probably become even more apparent with time.
I'm a Gen X and totally agree
i'm a late Millennial and i've seen Zoomers in Austrian apprenticeship schools drop the average Grade of their year from B- to D. The best of that year barely managed to get through it without a D on their record card but also no A's in the whole damn class and 7 out of 28 guys have been held back in first year (literally never happened before). This is extra bad because they're Electricians and somebody has to sleep in a home with wiring done by people who can't even answer the most basic question about safety measurements a single week after finishing their first turn in school. When asked why they don't care about any of that you'll get the answer "not my problem" as if there could never be any consequences ever or people dying isn't something that they care about / can understand might actually happen.
None of the previous generations had never ending on-demand Dopamine dispensers in their pockets 24/7, which mind you can massively fuck with your brains esp in development. What we had was already manipulative and bad if not enjoyed in moderation but this shit today is like Meth compared to caffeine.
Tl;dr instant gratification bad mkay?
0:48 "Us Millennials trying to manage them" made me smile as I heard the same about Gen X managing Millennials a couple of years back…and then he mentioned exactly that. I guess Millennials have grown up, so will Gen Zs.
When you said it shouldn't be a surprise that we value work life balance since we have to work so much and could potentially not retire, you hit the nail on its head. Idk how the older generations don't see the mess they've made and think how dare we have the audacity to want to have a LIFE.
I try to make my parents understand that my generation and many after it will never retire which starts the you-don't-need-to-live-like-a-billionaire-when-you-retire speeches. They refuse to understand the economy even as they themselves suffer from it.
First they were the richest and most spoiled generation this world has seen in a long time, inherited a wonderful economy with many opportunities. If you're from a liberal-socialist country like I am (The Netherlands), that generation has royally leeched the social benefits without investing into the future of the collective generation of their children.
They greedily spent more money than they had, and leave us with the debts. That means that uniquely, this might be the first time in history that parents didn't build for kids, but instead cannibalized their future. They occupy seats of power, their old asses rusted to it it seems, and they refuse to pass anything on. If they could turn themselves immortal to rule longer by sacrificing younger generations, they would. Of that I am convinced, because metaphorically they already do that financially and politically.
Lets see if its still funny when they find out the elderly homes are flooded with elderly, with expansive elderly care and no one left to take care of their shitty diapers, because the greedy boomers 'ate' their children's future.
@@prophetscott LOL yes, yes to all of that. They truly think the gravy train will never end because they've been gulping it down their entire lives.
@@prophetscott love this haha. Epic reply and I agree 100%
Older gen z here! I want to work, but I also would like to be respected and fairly compensated for that work. I’m tired of companies promising better opportunities, promotions, raises but straight up lying to employees for their benefit and not holding up their end of the bargain while treating their employees like garbage. It’s petty and might hurt me slightly (which is fine), but I’d rather treat the company how it treats me, and if they’re not going to respect me, my time, or the work that I do then I won’t put any effort in exchange. It’s a two way street
my hero. Keep fighting the good fight, the kids are worth fighting for. @@ShannonBarber78 ❤🩹🤝
Gen Xer here. I don't know about Millennials vs Gen Z. I don't think either is "lazy". You adapt to your environment... or your perception of your environment.
One of the greatest lessons I had growing up is working shitty jobs in my teens. It taught me that I don't want to be stuck working a shitty job for an a-hole of a manager for my career. Got me motivated. Got me to take college SERIOUSLY. And it got me to appreciate my parent's "free roaming" parenting style. Figure stuff out when the stakes aren't so high in the school of hard knocks. Literally walking out on a job (which I did) at 16 is a valuable lesson. Walking out on a job at 30 is sad.
Learn a VALUABLE skill. Something people need. That's your defense against the ups and downs of the markets and crappy managers. They need you more than you need them.
FROM MY EXPERIENCE: Since 2005 I've worked in an office with boomers right out of high school, I was a millennial, and the office whipping boy.
Boomers came in, would do their job, and leave on time every night. If they refused to learn new tools our bosses and coworkers (boomers) would blow it off.
Many of us working millennials were held to much higher standards than the boomers, we were told computers made our lives easier so all of the extra output was because of that advantage.
But that wasn't true. We were giving 150% so they could give 50%.
Boomers were the most entitled group of people I ever worked with. They would take a 20 hour a week job and come up with unnecessary busy work to fill the week.
From what I could tell it was better in their mind to fake being busy than to be freed up for additional tasks, which to me comes off as lazy and dishonest.
Gen X has been infinitely better to work for and with. They seem to understand cutting the bloat out of work, and not trying to police down time quite so much.
As a millennial (31) I worked with quite a few Gen Zs. I was always seen as the "big sister" at the job, so we were cool overall. I love that they're able to understand their worth a LOT earlier than we did. I absolutely love that for them. Gen Z is also a lot more chill and understandable than the older gens as a customer too.
As for the growing up part, Millennials, IMO, had more of a "rushed childhood". The moment the internet became more used and perfected; technology advanced, and they advanced so quick to where we all seemed to blink and we were all turning 18-20 and trying to find jobs. So now at our current age, we're all just trying to live out the childhoods we missed while trying to be adults. It's stressful and I feel like we were lied to as a generation.
That's a lot... but wait there's more... we are all going to be out through the worst test of all of these elites get there way. And the worst part, the older generations have already realized there deceit and are preparing. The younger generation just wants to believe everything is good and get mad at the source sharing the facts.
What are they going to say when they are caught in this global tidal wave? Pay attention to the WEF plans before it's too late.
That's interesting. Kind of explains why every 40 year old is collecting Lego or board games or something. But then when I was a kid, 40 year olds from the Boomer generation bought motorcycles or convertible cars and people called that a mid-life crisis, so maybe nothing has really changed!
@@ShannonBarber78 Well, like I said, they're all buying Lego and board games.
Millennials were the first generation whose entire adult life is fully documented on social media.
Gen Z are the first generation whose entire LIFE is fully documented on social media.
@@ShannonBarber78 The ones that work in IT/Tech are buying stocks. Save-a-holics/invest-a-holics. It's going to be a generation with a chasm/canyon in the middle, all these people on one side scraping by in retirement, and all the people on the other side owning $100m-$1b in shares in companies. (Judging by how investments have been going, if we compound that, it gets pretty huge.)
I graduated from college class of 2021 - literally spent 2/3 of my junior and senior years without seeing my friends while stuck in my parents house. And once I graduated and got a job, it turned out to be virtual in a new city I didn't know anyone so I still mostly spent time alone staring at a computer all day 3 years on (virtual work is definitely not a blessing for everyone)... Oh, and on top of that, all these layoffs are happening and no one is sure when they may come, except that they most likely will come. I don't know how hard previous generations had it, but covid was definitely a b*ttfuck for Gen Z.
I'm just glad I got lucky with it:
- Got out of highschool early (was in my senior year when covid started)
- University didnt start until later, so had 7 months of free time between HS and Uni
- Worked at a hospital during Covid doing a super easy job, pay was supposed to be $18/hr, but because of COVID and Government grants, i made $53/hr when picking up extra shifts
- Online classes made it very easy to BS my way through and cheat in classes that are unrelated to my major that i had to take in my freshman/sophomore years
- online classes meant no mile long walks across my massive campus to get to a class thats in a shitty location
Among other things.
My heart goes out to you. It must have been difficult to adapt to this reality. Hang in there!
Please keep some friends that will be there at the end of the work
I hope your degree is in something actually useful and future proof.
@@LukeIngels its in English Lit fml😫😫😫
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 *🔄 Generational conflict between Millennials and Gen Z arises from differing attitudes towards work and life, influenced by historical events and economic conditions.*
03:16 *📜 Generational characteristics are shaped by historical events, such as the Great Depression and World War II, leading to distinct work ethics and values.*
07:53 *💼 Millennials entered the workforce during economic recessions, resulting in a culture of hustling and working multiple jobs to navigate financial challenges.*
10:21 *💰 Millennials face financial struggles, with declining net worth compared to previous generations, hampering their ability to afford homes and build wealth.*
14:45 *💼 Millennials and Gen Z are driving workplace change, emphasizing diversity and flexibility, leading to shifts in company policies and practices.*
17:34 *💻 Millennials and Gen Z adapt to economic challenges by embracing freelancing and side gigs, leveraging technology to supplement income amidst financial insecurity.*
19:03 *🔄 Younger generations prioritize work-life balance and seek meaningful work, influenced by experiences of economic instability and uncertainty about retirement.*
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I'm a millennial, almost 36. I've managed quite a few Gen Z'rs in my office. What I shockingly realized is they don't know computers! Which I was very surprised to discover. Ctrl + C . Whats that? Gmail. Forget it. Typing. Similar to watching my Nanas typing skills. They know cell phones, not computers. I will say, my Millennial employees call out and are late wayyy more often than my Gen Z employees.
This is at least what I've experienced managing Gen Z the last 3 years.
my mom said that Gen Z these days don't have the tenacity that the previous generation used to have "back in the day". basically she meant that we are weak n soft, n most of us don't have what it takes to withstand pressure to get to the top of corporation bureaucracy.
i actually think its true at some point but Gen Z also prioritize themselves than their work, which is good. not to mention the fact that everything is more expensive than when they were our age. 5k/m 15 years ago is not like 5k/m today
We’re not going to get to retire, may never own a house, can’t expect the things that previous generations were entitled to, but get blamed if we don’t share their attitude to the future - a millennial
As a genZ I went to college, got a contract IT job, busted my ass to exhaustion literally working 6.5 days a week 24 hour shifts, etc..., got a permanent job with the company and am the youngest permanent employee they have. Now im in a position where I just need to take my time and learn new stuff and pay my dues to climb the next rung on the ladder. I don't like how I get treated at work not only because of my age but because of the branding people put on my generation. I honestly don't enjoy working with boomers because they all have a superiority complex and are complacent and resistant to change. They are lazy and entitled. Millennial coworkers are hit or miss because they never cause problems and they do their job and leave. That often leaves something to be desired.
As usual, Gen X is ignored. :)
Yea im more with the work and jus leave thing. The whole “ family” aspect of 9-5’s are frustrating because youre not my family lhh youre not going yo put your neck on the line for me and i wouldnt expect you to. So instead of acting like a family. How bout be share a few laughs, work and go home to our actual families? 😂
I think part of the lacking something else stems from the fact that workplace harassment lawsuits have skyrocketed during our generation (I am a Millennial). I personally like to talk to my coworkers, but I have to be extremely careful because you never know when something will be taken the wrong way. We live in a world now where jokes are not tolerated, everything has to be politically correct, and so much as looking at someone could be skewed as sexual harassment or hostile work environment. I am not saying that jokes about race or gender is acceptable, but there are plenty of reports out there of someone basically being crucified socially/employment wise because they made some off hand comment without filtering it through 100 lawyers of "will this be misunderstood?"
So, I unfortunately understand why my generation rather just get the work done and have nothing to do with their coworkers. To be fair, there are plenty of coworkers out there that will backstab you or let something you said in private slip... Its just easier and safer to do nothing extra socially.
@@rathelmmc3194 Most of the bosses are probably Gen-X, but some young people call anyone who is old a Boomer. I feel like the older Gen-X have had to deal with Boomers for so long that when they are finally in charge, they just want to push shit downhill like was done to them.
the problem with what I am seeing is that even where I work. I'm the youngest out of all of my colleagues. I'm 35 years old btw.. that's a big problem because it means skills aren't getting passed down to the next generation, and there are jobs that need to be worked at every level.. at every level. I'm a data engineer, and where I work, we 100% need people in their 20s working here... It's so needed, it's bad, like if something was to happen to any employee where I work, that's a system that no one else knows how it works. We lost people during covid too and are dealing with the repercussion that the gov't agency I contract at isn't willing to onboard college grads. the pay is nice, but it won't mean much in 10 years if the youngest employee is in their 40s..
This didn't start with gen z it started with my generation gen y.. Where companies and gov't agencies in the US atleast just was not recruiting young people. they were not recruiting college grads.. Like to get a normal ass 9 to 5 job you had to be extraordinary to these folks.. It drove me to leave the US and work overseas during my 20s. a lot of folks who didn't do what I did. Basically was stuck in retail or fast food after college. Companies like Accenture do recruit college grads, but the way they do it is so shoddy. THey try to make it this hunger games like event where these candidates are being asked to do shit that none of the senior level employees had to do to get a job, that is on the professional level, but it isn't that difficult to do.. The best and brightest are being put into mediocre ass positions and everyone else is being pushed out of the economy and workforce.
You know where the "Millennial Pause" comes from, right? We grew up in the age and dawn of the phone with a camera in it. Then we had the first phones that could shoot video... What we learned from our devices over these years is that they were friggin slow. We were trained by our phones to wait a couple seconds after pressing record because if you start immediately, your recording is going to have the first few seconds missing. Hard habit to break after doing it for like 10 years. :)
I like how you broke down the different groups I now have a better understanding of Millenials. Great video. Thank you
It's really strange being part of the cohort born in the transition between Gen X and Millennials. I was born in `81 and tend to vacillate between them. Often too young to identify with Gen X but too old to identify with Millennials.
Me too! Same year. Feel like a gen x'r for the social aspects, but was too young for the political stuff. All the problems Millennials have faced, except I was further in my career, lost everything, can't afford a home, still paying loans, and finding a loyal place to work is a joke.
I'm not a fan of micro generations, or whatever, seems like I'm nitpicking, but I have heard it described as "The Oregon Trail Generation" That's where I feel I fit. Had an analog childhood, and the internet at home by the time I was 11-12.
Same, but I'm a few years younger. I was already out of college and employed in 2008. The funny thing was my boss told me when I hired on that our industry was more recession proof than the government. I never expected to see him prove right, but life is funny. Makes my experience different from a lot of my peers.
I was certainly influenced by my boomer parents & teachers because I've stayed with the same company all this time. I make a good wage, and where else am I going to get a 401(k) & a pension? That is so not in line with most millennial thinking.
Same here. I’m an older millennials and I feel like there’s a slight difference between older and younger millennials.
@@gigiiv what industry is that if you don’t mind me asking?
@methos-ey9nf Stop Loss Reinsurance - To over simplify it, we insure employer funded health plans so that catastrophic claims don't wipe out the whole thing. I started in '07, and a million dollar claimant was a huge deal. It's been years since the first ten million dollar claimant. Rx costs are generally the biggest factor, but things like a motorcycle accidents can be crazy expensive too.
I don’t find this relatable as a millenial, but then I’ve always been “lazy” (efficient) and never worked more than my contracted hours. Hobbies and spare time are important and I’m not going to slave away for the only reward being more work. That said, all my friends are Managers now and I’m still at a junior level at 29, so only do my approach if you’re not obsessed with money 😆 I also have a house and savings, but I’m frugal and don’t live or work in London, so it’s always been doable to save 50% of my salary until recently
Boomers really hate efficiency for some reason.
Yeah I depend on frugality for things I enjoy
If you're in the UK, it's different too. Work culture is different between US and UK
@@romancetips365 they hate it because to them it means that all of their hard work was for nothing. imagine working twice as hard as your friend only to realise that your friend put in half as much effort and still got the same result as you. they hate the fact that others are not as miserable with their lives as they are.
@@jenniferpearce1052 work culture here in peru is so relaxed when compared to other countries. heck if someone here in peru tells you they will be over at 6 just give them until 8. meetings for work are like this too with the host even being a few minutes late. here in peru family comes first and work rarely interrupts family life. they even do siestas here from 1pm until about 4 pm. during such time a lot of people including students go home to eat lunch and have family time then as well as help their parents run their family business if they have one. business relations are more between people than companies and the culture is very group oriented. in most spanish culture while you are encouraged to go and live your own life you are also encouraged to check on your parents every now and then and help them out whenever possible.
A big part of the problem is so many businesses demand loyalty but have none to the workers. Another part is the all for me attitude of both managers and employees. Next is the cumulative economic effect of corporate greed and wages not keeping up with inflation and unsustainable costs for basics like housing and transportation.
Another issue is the unwillingness to put in the hours and do the grind to get established and start building something.
As a young man back in the 70's and 80's I worked many 80 hour weeks. And yes kids, I hated many of those jobs. But, it was a job and paycheck. Build yourself a business and take the chance. Put in the hours and don't play the corporate crap.
Thanks for the video!
i am a millenial (93), i worked my asss off after i finished school in 2012, but i was in delivery at the moment covid hit us... my hours went up by 100% while all my friends got to "work from home" or some even "do nothing" for month. so yeah i am burned out and i did quit after 1 year of non stop christmas like delivery scedules... and for the last year i just went full lazy and used my EARNED unemployment money... but i still dont feel good, even less secure, and worse, i feel judged for taking a year off just doing nothing...
Well who’s doing the judging?Yourself or someone else?
@@MrTidx90 a bit of both i guess
Bro is 93 year old millennial
@@Niggaisgay-iu2pf Millennials are officially 1981- 1996. Generation Z officially begins at 1997 and ends in 2012. Generation X is 1965-1980. Sources for these dates are the Library of Congress in Washington DC, the United States government Census, the government of Canada, and Pew Research Center (the most popular statistics firm over all others). And before anyone else says it, the McCrindle citation is extremely outdated and getting phased out for the Pew Research Center. (Pew being the most popular citation by official government sources).
@@RockNRollSurf 🤓
I don't hate Gen z they inspire me
Inspire about ?
They want better out of life something I have forgotten
@@JoshuaValentine Damn I guess you have to be really hard then. Really hard while licking the boots of your boss.
@@JoshuaValentine Congrats man, you're the peak alpha male, we all are jealous of your achievements that you proudly flaunt on RUclips.
@@JoshuaValentine Brain washed by Andrew Tate.
Great intro, very profound, got me interested in watching more!
Hi, one of those few Gen Xers watching the video. Love the work life balance approach younger generations value. We were taught to work hard and that work will be recognized. Loyalty was encouraged. You can't be blamed for not committing yourselves the same way we did. You have a lot of responsibility on your shoulders. Wish I had more than sympathy to offer.
🎉genX here too lol😂 I slid the get a house and still have too many jobs. I totally understand the younger gens… millennials fix my phone! Gen z - save earth!🎉😂
Didn’t
Yet we were called "slackers" back in the day. I think our WWII era grandparents tried to tell us that "company loyalty" would be useful... but we didn't believe it because we were finding it just was not true.
@@abeycee7427 Actually, that was highlighted back in the day with the film Reality Bites when Ryder's character attempts to get a job in the 90s economy and her parents are criticizing her "lazy and entitled" attitude. It's always been the same problem, hasn't it?
As a Gen Zer we often fall into one of several categories.
1. The emotional hyper-consumer: thanks to the fear headlines that have been constant in social media, and screamed at us by politicians, not to mention bad ideology from most professors, many in Gen Z are paralyzed in a constant "fight or flight" state. The fight comes out by those who shout political soundbites and repeat really really poorly thought out worldviews by those wanting to keep their jobs or power (profs, politicians, and many influencers). As a result these Gen Zers often appear unhinged or unable to be constructive in the workforce as a result of the "flight" of not wanting to be trapped, duped, or damaged by what they're afraid of.
2. The cynical: also can be difficult in the workforce for bad management. Why? Because these Gen Zers had absent Boomer or Xer parents who sold their soul to their jobs and even if they provided for their family, they were never present for their family. As a result, many Zers look at the overweight, ulcer ridden, multiple divorcee, debt-riddled, and hopeless members of the older generations and say "not for me man. I'll work, but I ain't giving you my soul. You don't deserve it." At the same time many Zers are far less idealistic than Millenials. We watched their attempts to "change the world" that ended in more political control, more fear, more bad policies, and are tired of the push to conform to "be different like me" Millenial stance. No one likes getting told no or telling someone no, but Z is more willing to say no. Unfortunately, we don't have a lot of practice at saying no well so we quiet quit, leave, checkout, whatever. Not necessarily because we weren't included, but we were being rewarded with things we don't want.
The hustlers/hackers/breakers/builders: these are the ones that might work in the general workforce as employees well...for a while. BUT the reason we do work well is that we want to get in, get out, so we can have the freedom to build the lives we want for ourselves - not necessarily the ones Boomers, Xers, and Millenials want for us. Again, because we are less idealistic and have watched the world be sold a bill of goods via bad government, inflation, mishandled pandemics, bad work environments for both those invested and not invested, we are setting more boundaries than before and building our own financial machines. We'll work for you for now, but unless there's a larger payoff than we can make side hustling, freelancing, or building our own business, don't expect us to stay late unless you are a really really really good leader. You know how Boomer parents would say they could end you and go make another just like you? Gen Zers are recognizing that we can say the same thing to the employment scene.
Disclaimer: are there lazy, undisciplined, entitled, manipulative, whiny, naive, wasteful, greedy, mean, and unworkable members of Gen Z? Of course. Just like in every generation. But if you have one of these in your workforce, that's on you. You made a bad hire and let crazy into the building. Fire them and hire better. If you want Gen Z to work for you and be profitable for you, you need to show them how they will become profitable as well. Hint, think $ and a path to becoming more economically valuable in the market. We've worked for little or nothing in internships that led nowhere or high-school jobs where we were sneered at all day. We aren't interested in "experience" or "exposure" anymore. Give us targets to hit and good rewards (not participation trophies - 🤢).
Thanks for reading my nickels worth (why nickel? Inflation man 😉)
Probably one of the best written comments I’ve seen describing Gen Z. I agree with almost every observation. It’s interesting because I see plenty of overlaps in my sub cohort (‘93-‘96”) where we have a lot of those traits but still have some of that Millennial idealism intact despite all the doom and gloom of recent times.
@@usayeed727 thanks for the kind words
Just wait to gen Alpha and see that they are just rehashing the same old Millennial argument over and over again but now it's somehow worse than the last time.
@@velvetypotato711 complaints are where the opportunity for others can be found. The more people who complain about something, the more likelihood there is a demand for a solution. Figure out how to provide that solution and you have a winning business.
Best description I've heard in a while.
The get in, get money, and get out especially resonates. Many want to exit this mess and go elsewhere.
Not many people consider doing something out of their comfort zone. I jumped into a trade in 2013. I wasn’t a labourer by any means but I saw the demand in the market and took it. It was hard and I hated it. But you know what, it was what I needed to grow. After 2020, as a whole, there were more opportunities available to explore and it gave us time to reflect and get creative. I think you’re right on the point that after the pandemic I do find the work place less stressful now than before.
it pushed out the last of the boomer boss class
Thank you for this. I needed to hear this...
I am Gen Z. I don't drink, smoke, watch TV or care about politics. I do my job and enjoy my hobbies. I don't want to be my manager who's divorced, their life revolves entirely around their job, chasing approval of their boss and drinking the pain away. The older generations seems to revel in their greed, ambition and vices. I cannot afford to but I don't care either. Being aspirational in work feels like a fools errand. The middle class is dead so why try harder.
the last bit reminded me of king otf the hill when bobby became the ¨ go to guy¨ for his boss who was mentally unstable because he took hanks boomer advice and fell for the lie of how being the go to guy is the best job to have. in reality bobby was being overworked by someone who didnt care about his safety and his health and only cared about making sales. being aspirational at work just means you end up having to cover all of the bases. it also sucks when the whole job is having pizza but you were tasked with cleaning up the entire workplace.
i feel ya man. this is my same arguement theres literally no reason for me to bend over backwards for anyone. school already stole my childhood not gonna let work steal my life away.
It's a very interesting topic. I'm argentinian, and you can see the cultural differences of our generations (that we in some way try to copy from the US, but the reality is completely different). I was born in 1997, with a stable economy that in 2001 exploded, restarting everything and my father having to get a new job ASAP. I went to a public school, then the stability led my parents to send me to a technical highschool and at 18 years old I graduated and started working.
In my country you can pay the University month by month or you can go to a public one. I chose a private institution and kept working alongside (first only 6hs per day and then 8-9hs, as full time). Then COVID came, I lost my job (had a pretty good one for my age) and the cycle restarted.
Luckily, I didn't gave up and kept studying with help from my father, got an intership that became my new full time job after only 6 months and graduated in late 2022. Now I have again a pretty good job and I'm happy (even tho I'm earning in AR peso)... But the point is that national and international historic context really impacts on our lives.
For myself, my father was the person that encouraged me to keep on trying, and I'm really grateful to him. Hope this helps the newer generations if they're in a burnout state and need to hear someone story.
PD: In terms of money... If you have a little extra, save it... Because you don't know what could happen at this point.
Great video!
I admire your resilience and strength during difficult times!
@@cyrileo Thank you! I think it's the key to dodge burnout... Note that in my country earning 1000 usd is considered a very well payed job (you only get it with an Uni's degree) and it's the minority of workers that come close to earn that number. That's why, in my opinion, people need to focus on the good things because the bad can make a lot of them give up at an early age
I am a Gen X manager, and I also was struck by the Covid19 pandemic. When the death rate was above 5%, I had to make decissions in my company about how to distribute my colleagues and enforce physical boundaries, which not all of them agreed. They were around 40 people, so in my mind I was just thinking (oh boy, there is a good chance that one or two may actually die). My requirements were to ensure the company productivity, yet all I could think about was the lives of the people who I was working for years. So I made all possible efforts to avoid the contagion scenario, yet all I could see is people resentful or avoiding isolation procedures. That was really hard. What I mean by all of this; not only employees or people looking for jobs were struck by the pandemic. Also people making decissions to avoid deaths were affected.
I am a gen x and I also had a really tough time during 2008. I had to work 2 zero hour contract jobs to make ends meet. I suffered from depression, anxiety and panic attacks. Life is tough and not fair. Get over yourself and stop complaining. You were not the only ones suffering.
Millenials grew up in the prime era of humanity. They can only see things go down while thinking back how good the past.
Bruh, we started work just before the banking crisis in 2008 and had to find our first jobs in a recession - it wasn’t the prime era of anything.
Maybe for later born Millenials it is a little bit different. But I grew up in the 90s. Best era ever I think. After 2000 shit went down faster and faster.
I wish I had noted every single job rejection from the Recession so I could hold it up now at the people who told me at the time that I wasn't "doing enough" and needed to "work harder" and the people who tell me now that "there's always another way." I was flexible and optimistic and willing for 30yrs. My whole life. And now I'm tired, and I'm nearing 40. I still want to be that person, but testing the waters and taking new risks with the hopes of seeing them pan out is increasingly more risky and less practical, with a higher propensity of contribution to burnout and depression.
Yeah I don't think these people realize what a decimated job market does to those who hit it right when they're supposed to be getting a foothold. It knocked many of us down and while we're trying to get up, the next yearlings are already filling those spots.
The great recession led to an abandoned generation for a couple years, the ones that could move back in with their boomer parents were the lucky ones.
I'm trying to pay attention when you're talking but every time I see your jumper on screen all I can think about is Chris Chan 😂
that was really good. excellent points (and data) about the generations in question.
Boomer here who believes every generation has done it's best within the limits of its understanding. Have always respected the values and ideals of the younger generations, and thanks to this amazing breakdown, have an appreciation of the whys and wherefores of their differences. Thank you for an excellent episode.
While I *hate* boomers as a group, I am glad to see that some of you guys are respectful adults and not entitled jackasses. Thanks for being one of the few good ones.
Thank you. 1948 Boomer with grandchildren. I didn't know how to frame today's working generations. I'm overwhelmed by the culture shock they've produced, which indicates they've gone mad. But now I have a much better perspective. I've never seen this analysis before and it strikes me as accurate. I have blood in all three generations. It does seem to me now that they have reason to be so unreasonable.
Thanks for your perspective! And I appreciate the effort to emohathize❤️
i am generation X (late Boomer here) i think we Ruined it for younger generations with the idea of accumulating wealth for ourselves instead of investing on a better world
it is ironic that we started the revolution of freedom and equality in the younger years and then became conservative with no empathy in the older ones
You rock, Jay
No, you were right the first time. They really are misguided and doomed to massive disillusionment. They want to make their workplace like their pampering colleges, but those were highly manufactured environments that don't work in a competitive global economy. They aren't even reproducing and they're going to experience what it's like to grow old in an economy with too few young people because of that. Their idealism and promotion of feelings over facts, their emotional hypersensitivity, it all makes them an HR nightmare. So many want to sue their way to an early retirement or just be influencers, rather than actually making a success of themselves by contributing to the economy things that people actually need They actually see contributing to the economy as a net bad, not a net good. Instead they want to get paid by a for profit as if they work for a non-profit. I'm so sick of sitting through HR trainings that pander to their childish need for reassurance that they work someplace that cares about that sh!t. If only they really did want to just do the job and go home, but no. They want the job to be an extension of their misguided values.
Being Gen x my life is constantly changing so no surprise I think it's gonna get worse and I used too be chill.
As a millenial creative director, it’s cool that Gen Zs stand up for themselves, but also at the same time, not cool that they stand up for themselves; because if you think about it, Boomers are mostly the CEOs in companies and they don’t understand Gen Zs and they hate being disrespected, which leads to a lot of Gen Zs quitting within a short time.
Very informative. You touched different aspects of generations. Thank you.
As much as it sucks, the millennials like myself and Gen Z’ers need to get into politics it’s one of the few ways we can be the change in the world we want to see.
Unfortunately many cannot see that need due to pervasive victim mentality (blaming prior generations) and misplaced locus of control. Those are the underlying beliefs that will lead to permanent frustration. I'm very curious about the level of political involvement (at all levels, even local) of prior generations compared to Z. Statistically not anecdotally. Things need to change? Try to do something about it. Use the work life balance you have carved out to do that. Silent Gen and Boomers had literally no free time in their youth.
As a Gen Xer (born in 77) from what I’ve seen, the political system is rigged, but I’m sure as hell rooting for y’all.. ❤️
HA, better start buying your guns then, the political game has been sabotaged and subverted by 'elites' for damn near over a century.
Only way this is happening is forced removal at some point.
LOL you think politicians run the show?
Pls no more Millenials and Gen Xs into politic.We already what happend in Canada, UK and Germany
News to me, I’m 40 and I’m with them on getting paid to commute, quitting on short notice if the vibes are off. And just not even wanting to work. The kids are alright.
very well put together and thought through video
As a millenial, I'm just glad gen z's have it better than us and learned from our mistakes. That's all we could ever aspire.
not true, homes cost more and due to inflation their spending power is also less
Spending power all time low plus housing market all time high 😍😍😍
@@yoshiramar1992that has nothing to do with gen z and more to do with the people in power over gen z
To be honest, as a millennial, I do not think most of us made any major mistakes, with some exceptions. Think about it, graduated high school in 2005, go to college or work just in time to be laid off/lose your job in 2009 recession. Afterward, you get back on your feet by getting a new job or finish college and getting higher pay, then Covid hits and now a lot of us are back to where we were just after high school.
“Have it better than us” 😂😂😂😂
If any millennial wants to explain to anyone older than them, “As prerequisite to get a job I have to know minimum 3 softwares products that constantly change to work in a job and still have to build all my own furniture at IKEA”
I'm happy if a boomer knows how to turn their router off and on.
@@nonyabiz9340 For me, it's not even when someone in their generation doesn't know something, it's when they're unwilling/bothered to learn or put the effort in to do so. That's how entitled and comfortable they are
I'm a millennial and I work with the generations before and after me, and I only have problems with a-holes. I hate a-holes, I love not a-holes. Simple.
As long as we can maintain mutual respect and be kind,we all can work together
I think that us millenials are the first generation that knows well how rought is gonna be for the Gen Z
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Thank you for making this documentary. Im a millennial and currently feeling burn out after being a top preformed for years. This video explained our experience in a way no other has that I encountered. And makes easier to cope and tackle the challenge understanding it better when you’re not wasting time blaming yourself.
Boss: I need you to give 110%
Millennial: Oh, we're slowing down?
Great video! Raises a lot to think about.
The older generation were responsible for the economic distress that gen Z's are experiencing, yet their quick to point on us for being lazy. They refuse to take reponsibility of their mistakes, and they have time to point finger on us ? 🤣🤣🤣
It's mostly boomers if we keep it a stack. There the ones who are making hard for millennials and gen z to move up financially
Not Gen X. They just largely gave up or coped with it.
@@90skidcultist they did nothing for anyone. Most complacent generation of people.
@@Zabrakjedi they tried, but they got blacklisted in a way, like if they didnt exist
@@dankbabayyyy you mean the people who all took corporate positions and sold their childrens future for a desk job. They didn't get black listed they were soft as hell.
"The best we can do is be better than our parents at making it easier for the generations coming after us." Great conclusion. This is a strong message that I can really get behind, especially now that I have had a 2 yo daughter, and expecting another child soon.
fuck that, why would I make it easier for the next generation?
I'm on the cusp of being Gen X and Millennial and I honestly believe that every person from later Gen X onward are all the same. We are overworked, wages are flat, the economy is in constant peril, etc. We are exhausted with this and turning away. I think Gen Z simply has the knowledge of our larger group and are trying to fight back better than the older groups have.
1980 here. was a teenager when i saw the culture shift into internet while having fun throughout my whole childhood internet free. was among my peers until i went for a uni diploma.
started to work, and then continued for first degree in 2004 among other millennials. while i can relate with them more emotion-wise, i feel out of place at times. graduated in 2008, got retrenched with no pay on my first job. gen x thinks i am soft, while gen z called me whiny. can never please anyone. i like life-work balance but my work ethics is more to gen-x (have it done and don't bug me for unneeded things that waste times) with worries over corrupt authorities. i have struggles of gen-x mostly asking people to be quiet with mental health and the openness of millennials in talking about our feelings. made me feel pessmistic at times. so in the end i just share what i want, and things that are not worth telling, i won't put it up on the net to see.
i never stopped wonder if my work habits/ethics came from a generational thing...i just figured that since i started out being in companies where i was a team of 1 i had to do everything and nothing would get completed until i completed it, so my hours were often long and sometimes...ridiculous (once went to work on friday and didn't go home to sleep until midday sunday. i'm sure i smelled great). it wasn't until i was a big company that someone said "why are you still working?" and i said "i have to finish this or a whole group of programmers can't work" and they said "that's what the night shift is for, go home" "i can't...no one has all the background information to pick up this mess" "well, then continue it tomorrow". what a strange new world this was, i thought....
Same here, I was a one man IT department. I was also salaried, so no overtime. You do the job that needs doing, however long it takes.
I'm an old Gen X just shy of youngest Boomer. It's interesting how every generation thinks they're unique, and their experience differs so much from previous generations. I think we all go through the human experience and progression of life. In waves. But you can't feel the previous generations' pains because you weren't there. Every generation has its gains, losses, depression and issues. We all go through it. The causes might feel different, but they can be traced back to the same roots affecting all of us: 1) corporate greed, 2) lack of political will to rein in greed (a balance we need which only government gives), and 3) war-mongering. Now you could add climate change but I'd argue climate change is an outcome of corporate greed and lack of political will.
Corporate greed isn't about Boomers. It's systemic, it outlasts all our generations. Someone is very happy when we fall for blaming a generation. It's a "look at the birdie" moment.
I think this perennial thing we have of generational conflict gets us focused on criticizing each other, instead of collectively standing together against what we SHOULD pay attention to: our shared interest in improving all of our lives, and exactly what is affecting that? Guess what, it's really not me a Gen Xer suppressing you, a Millennial. It's our systems, it's our politics and policies. So you layer in the political divide with the generational divide, and we're conquered. Game over. Stop going to Starbucks. Watch your pennies because you'll need them.
Well said. Very rational.
But as Dr. Goodwin in New Amsterdam says, 'We can change the system, because we are the system.'
I agree with your statement...mostly.
However, you cannot say that when Boomers control the voting majority they do not have a direct effect on the other generations (or that the fact that the political leaders are mostly boomers, or have been for some time). Gen X Gen Y & Gen Z are all just part of what's left, as the patterns repeat and the wealth gap gets bigger and bigger. Eventually, the wealth from the Boomers has to go somewhere, hopefully, it makes its way down the line so each generation can enjoy a moment of stability.
Politics and greed... it's rotten to the core and disgusting. Hopefully combining would help, but who knows.
@@James-gf2ph Yes agree. I don't have much optimism for a future of huge enduring change, even when other generations take over. Systems are systems for a reason, and there are significant swings that need bigger counter-swings here. Are there truly enough people in the younger generations for counter-swings? Can we be sure they also won't change and become more conservative as they get older? Weren't Boomers the teens and young adults of the 60s and 70s railing against establishment, fighting for rights for minorities and women, fighting against war. Now they fully cling to power for far too long, and what's been happening here? Thankfully today we've lost some appetite for war, maybe temporarily, but it was boomers sending us to war. Policies they fought for when they were a young generation now unravel. Roe v Wade is only one very visible one. There are so many movements underway to cement this wealth divide despite generational change, root causes are things like Citizens United.
Pretty much sums it up. Every generation wants to blame those before them. Boomers did, and raised hell to make change, and every “generation” after.
I think we all want the same things. To be able to live comfortably, have work/life balance, of course be able to afford a home…etc. I don’t hate the boomers before me or the millennials after me. We’re really not that much different. Other than music, maybe. (70’s music was the best 😉)
@@cassietherainbowsend722 Agree we really all want the same things. Love 70s and 80s music.
Also as a Millennial: I remember a few years back how Gen Z was practically LAUGHING at us for not succeeding.
Boy has that attitude changed recently since they got a dose of reality!
Most Gen Z don't do this, but for the ones that do, have they ever considered they've had more time to adjust to the bullshit after seeing us go through it? If someone shuts off a bridge suddenly after it collapses , the people at the front of the queue are going to be stuck and have to reroute, going backwards. The ones at the back, i.e gen Z will see the bridge has broken and plan a different route accordingly, still somewhat stuck, but with extra information to hand.
Born in 1970 no one mentions Generation X ….I’ve owned my own Marketing and sales company for 21 years…we worked our asses off because we grew up in the 1980’s and wanted success..
As a GenX, I can tell you, it can be tough working for, or with, a fellow GenX - hard and tough but can be rewarding also - high ambition, long hours, you learned on the go, often felt like a dog-eat-dog-world. Not great work-life-balance. They also don't part with information easily. Tend to do the work themselves rather than entrusting it to others. Boomer managers frustrated the living daylights out of us, especially with their time-based-rather-than-performance-based approach. Millenials seem to take a natural mentor-role. (My experience).