How to Record Audio and MIDI (Acoustic Sound) from a Roland E-Drum (Reaper, SSD5)
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
- This tutorial should work for models like the TD 11 and above, in my case I have a Roland TD 17.
This tutorial covers recording direct sound from your module and also how to use a plugin called SSD5 for recording acoustic drums.
Hope this would be helpful for you and thanks for watching.
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Thank you for this. Heading into a big session next month with a drummer using this particular kit. This is extremely helpful!
Thank you! I recently got a td-27 and really want to start recording but couldn’t really find a good step by step guide on what to do. This really put the pieces together
Thank you very much. Nice content
thanks! so helpful, for newbies like me :)
Thank you so much for posting this!!
Thx this shows what I’m missing.. I get recording but no sound I guesss I need the ssd5 … will try this out.. thx
Muchas Gracias!!!!
That beat though💯
Great video I'm still a little confused I have Steven' slate drums open and my e kit is triggering but I am still hearing the sounds my my e kit and not Steven slate drums when I play. It shows the hits on the sampler but I'm not triggering the sounds from slate I'm getting my roland sounds
Thanks for the video!
If you could help me:
Got a TD-50x. Downloaded the drivers, but when I click on setup and ok nothing happens (and I’m not sure it was completed).
On Reaper my TD50x does not show on Audio Device and both Input tracks, just on Input Device and Output Device. Help me plz!!
That was a great video. I have a Roland TD 1DMK and that doesn't have any drivers. So, how can I record without using an audio interface?
can you do the same process with ez drummer? and using multitrack as well?
Do you have to use a VST, or can you use the Roland module's sounds somehow with the midi track ?
Thank You for the lesson! I think you can skip the part of copying the backing track on the sd card. You can add a track (or more) on reaper as backing track and use another track to record the drums. So you can use all the utilities of reaper, for example looping a single section of a song that you want to practice.
Or much better he can skip using the pc to record since the td 11, 15, 17 can record midi files while playing to a song on the sd card or jump drive
hello how can i record also music i want to play, im adding tracks for the music but its not coming out,i got td07kv and im playing the music via bluetooth.thank you,hope.you can help me
Couldn't detect my Roland TD1k as an audio device, there are no driver updates for it either:/
Hi there, quick question for you: I get audio input into Reaper from my Roland TD17 drum kit, but I can't get MIDI (the tracks still appear as sounds waves rather than MIDI 'dots' no matter how much I alter with the settings). Any ideas, or is there a way I can contact you to troubleshoot this? I'd really appreciate it!
Hi, can I ask some questions? I have TD25KV and all i have done recording was basic plugging in the usb memory. But it’s all WAV sound:
1.How can I choose to record it in MIDI,
2.what type of connector do I need to use if I want MIDI directly through my laptop instead of usb memory?
in order to record MIDI you need a usb cable, the model is exactly the same you may have for your printer, if you don't have one you can buy one in a computer store. This is printer usb cable:
www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-USB-2-0-Cable-Male/dp/B00NH11KIK
just take a close look to your module, here is the usb port:
www.kickstartyourdrumming.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/roland-td-25kv-review-module-usb-1024x486.jpg
then you can follow the same steps from my tutorial in order to record MIDI and Audio via usb,
you just need to make sure to install the drivers and that your DAW software is recognizing your module. Drivers:
www.roland.com/global/support/by_product/td-25k/updates_drivers/
Nice tutorial. Would have been nice to hear your actual recording though
Do you hear a difference between the module and the computer audio?
My drum software (AD2) sounds loud and clear though my module, but when I export the recording on the computer, the sound is a bit "muffled", like the drums are in the background and not the main subject. Any way to resolve this?
yes I can hear a difference too, in my case the difference is not considerable, actually I already knew how a TD 17 module sound before buying it and after hearing my module sound directly for the first time it sounded better,
and related to your software, you need to play around with the export settings in order to find the best quality result,
in my case I like to export with this settings:
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Low the volume all the way down
Do you have to use SSD5 or can you just use the module sound of in my case TD25. Can you still EQ and mess around with the sound of your drums in that case?
hey Sebastien, thanks for watching,
it's not necessary to use SSD5, you can record the sound from your TD 25 directly with your pc,
the only downside is that the audio can only be recorded in a single track (no way to record components individually like snare or kick drum),
anyways you can EQ the resulted track like adding some gain, more bass or something like that, you can also change your recorded drums sound with EQ but this will affect the whole drums.
I personally prefer using SSD5 or Superior Drummer 3 (another plugin) for recording drums for drum covers, you could take a look at my drum cover videos for getting a better idea about this,
regards.
hello. what about punching in sections? is it as simple as selecting a region and recording like you normally would?
with sections you mean positional sensing? if yes I think SSD5 supports some positional sensing for the snare only and you don't have to set up anything in order to record it,
of course you need to have a snare with the positional sensing feature, snares like the PDX-12 only supports rim-shot and doesn't support positional sensing.
@@revelionsword I mean more like if you mess up a drum fill, and you need to punch-in just that section
got it, for that is recommended to record MIDI because if you make any mistake you can edit your MIDI and fix those specific parts where you played the wrong "notes", or also you can record just a specific section of the song and then add a new track on your DAW software, cut the wrong piece and replace it with the good one,
in order to edit the MIDI with Reaper you just need to double click on the MIDI track and then the MIDI editor will be opened, there you can edit the position of every note, it's volumen level and it's length
Where can I find the drivers to install? I didn't have any come with my kit and when I select "Device" My Td-17 is not there.
hi there, you can search on Google: "drivers td 17" and the first option takes you to the download page,
there's no dropdown for selecting the drivers, there are a few options and you should download the drivers only if you have a mac,
on windows the drivers are downloades automatically,
note: if you have mac with big sur then you won't be able to record yet because there are no available drivers yet
Hi there, nice and clear video, but i got a *problem* .
I have a Roland TD-6V, but in the *drivers* section of Roland website my model is *missing* .
Is there a way to get them? Thanks a lot
hi man, I just checked the page and I can see the drivers available? what do you get in the page and are you using windows or mac?
@@revelionsword there is the model, but if you click it there is no driver in it. I'm using w10. However, i was kinda dumb cause i noticed only later that i dont have a usb exit on my roland lol, so it's pointless. I plugged in with a midi cable and recorded midi, but can't mix kicks toms etc separately this way. Anyway, thank you!
Hello ! I'm new to Electronic Drums and all of this. As of now I have the free trial of Reaper. I've already installed my Td-17 Roland to my computer. Everything is good there. But now im trying to figure out how to use my Edrums with a drum plug in? I've downloaded MT Power Drum kit 2. Does anyone know what steps need to be done with reaper and Mt power drum kit. So I can play my drums with that plug in enabled. Haha. Ive been trying to figure it out. Excuse my ignorance. Thank you
Drum plugins are used for interpreting recorded MIDI, as you can see on this tutorial you can record MIDI with your roland td 17, after you recorded it you can add the drum plugin you downloaded,
you should do the same steps I did for selecting ssd5, in your case if your plugin is compatible with reaper you should be able to see it on the add plugin screen, select it and after setting it up you can play (on reaper) your recorder midi notes,
if you want to hear on reaper right when you play on your drums I don't recommend that, there's a delay, usually drum plugins are made for recording purposes only
Hy man! Nice tutorial!
I have some problem with recording it in midi. I enabled my kit in devices and midi device like in tutorial (it appear with the name 2-td-17) but under the input select of the track it doesn't appear. It shows
Record 1 (audio or midi) where i can record as audio, 2 midi overdub/ replace, 3 output 4 input (force format) 5 disable.
Could you help me pls?
hey man, are you using Reaper? if yes, sometimes when you disconnect your usb cable and plugging in again the option for selecting Roland on the track input does not appear until you go to options again, or if you are using a mac and recently updated to Catalina you may have to install the drivers again,
if this does not help please give me more details of your current setup
@@revelionsword Hi, I am also having this problem! I have a mac using Catalina and have updated the most recent drivers for my TD17KVX. I am also using reaper! Could you help please?
@@jamesvella305 did you granted permissions to your driver? probably you missed that step
@@revelionsword I have window 10 and reaper v6. 12c. 1 I put USB driver Mode on Vendor. I chose the Roland td17 as the input and output device. I have enabled the device from midi devices. Creating a track and looking on the midi input does not show me the drums
I've already reinstalled the drivers and tryed to reput in the USB cable and reset all. 😩
@@riccardolirlandese9442 I'll check later for recording on windows 10 for checking if I can replicate this issue and I'll reply later
reaper does show the midi track but has no response on the second track (i have the same module as yours and did the exact same configuration you show on the video =( ) how could i solve this?
hey man, sorry for the late reply,
was you able to find a solution?
what are you trying to record on your second track?
audio or MIDI?
you need to make sure to follow the setups steps in order to record audio and midi
Hi, just wondering if you connected your headphones to the laptop or the drum set? Thanks.
hi, it's up to you,
in my case when recording a cover some times I like to connect my headphones to the laptop because I don't want to listen to the drums but only to the song
Hello . I got Millenium MPS-850 and I can´t find any driver on the internet .. Can u help me ?
hi Michal, I didn't find any drivers either so I guess your drum module doesn't need them, on Windows the drivers get installed automatically most of the times, in Macs too but only with simple usb devices with no crazy features,
I also found that your module only supports recording MIDI via usb (no audio support), so probably that makes your module a simple usb device when connected to the pc (I'm guessing that means it doesn't require any special usb drivers)
did you try already searching your MIDI device in Reaper after plugin in your module to your pc?
if you already did it and it's not getting recognized then you'll have to set up your module in the MIDI options and enable MIDI output
on the user manual I found these two options:
GM MODE and LOCAL CTRL, try with one of these
Hey... Can you give me some help?
Got my TD-17KVX a few days ago, but I am not being able to connect it as audio interface to my Mac.
I switched the USB mode from Generic to Vendor, installed the latest driver 1.0.1 that I downloaded from Roland website and connect it to my Mac through a USB-B to USB-C cable. I can use it on GarageBand as a MIDI instrument, but I am not being able to record direct audio from the module.
It doesn't even appear as sound input or output under System Preferences.
Any tip ?
I appreciate any help.
sorry for the late reply man, honestly I didn't noticed when you left this comment,
and you can do this:
* make sure you installed the driver properly by searching for Roland TD 17 on your mac, should be installed here: /Applications/Roland/TD-17 Driver
* maybe you need another cable, in my case I'm using a printer usb cable and it works fine, my mac is a macbook air 2017 and I don't have any issue when recording audio with Reaper
* in my case I'm using Reaper, for being able to record audio I need to go to preferences and then under the audio options I need to select the td 17 option in the audio devices,
you always need to set the td 17 device as input in order to record audio
@@revelionsword Thanks for replying man ! It turned out to be Catalina blocking access do the driver. I allowed it under Security tab in System Prefs and the problem was solved.
Hi!! I followed your steps but when I rendered the file, I can’t hear any audio!?? Not sure why this is
hi James, make sure you didn't mute your track before rendering it, if you can play it you should be able to render it withour any issue,
also if you still can't hear anything you can play around with the render options,
yo can try with these:
format: WAV
resample: better 192
bit depth: 24
sample rate: 48000
you can play around with these options and check it there's any improvement on the result
Can the Roland TD17 be connected to the Roland tm 2 with a midi out cable so I can have the sounds of the TD17 on the tm2 directly with a midi out cable?
hi, related to that you will have to handle both modules in a separated way, for recording purposes you can assign each module to a different track and that should work fine
@@revelionsword Knows how I can put new sounds (Tom 1 2 3 4) in tm 2?
@@giannispan8129 if you're talking about import sounds into your module I don't think I can help with that
do you use the ssd5 to play with the roland or only record midi?
hi man, only for recording, I think it's not possible to play live with any kind of software using your computer due to the delay "issue", your software needs to get your drum inputs, process them and give the ouput and that takes like a second so you get out of sync with what you play and hear
Any way to get each individual drum on it's on track for precise mixing?
hi there, no that's not possible :c but a workaround is to manually export individual drum and re import them, is annoying but is possible, in that case I recommend to export individuals in a really high quality so you don't lose it
With EZDrummer (and I'm quite sure also with SSD5) you can route each MIDI channel to a track, having a track for each part of the kit (with OH and ambient/room tracks also). Youcan then apply all the effects/eq/Dynamics that you want. If you look on RUclips there are videos specifically for this, using Reaper with EZDrummer. It's just the same procedure with SSD
ruclips.net/video/b0mqX-6PKnk/видео.html
@@FabioPanc8 , I was talking about from the module, not the software.
I know the high end modules can bust out each drum, cymbal, etc on it’s own track via USB.
The older pro modules had 8-10 outputs to go direct recording.
@@funkstationstudio9813 ah nice!
can i use this tutorial for my td 1kv?
hey there, to be honest I'm not sure if you can, older modules does not have an integrated interface, this means those can't record audio directly through usb but MIDI only,
so I don't know if your module is one of those,
as far as I know all modules (roland) from 2012 and newer support recording audio and MIDI through usb
@@revelionsword so i've already tried,
1. my edrum doesn't have driver, but when i try to record midi it works ... the problem is i can't hear the sound, can you teach me how to hear that?
2. i can't record my song (i used my phone connect to aux directly to the module)... how to record the song?
3. i'm using ezdrummer 2 vst, but when i search in the fx plugin it does not appear
thx btw!
Thanks to you, I got this working on my TD9. You made my day! In the menu of the module, under MIDI, I had to make sure to set Local Control to OFF (ruclips.net/video/eJ7RKifXYnU/видео.html). I can play a track from a USB of phone via mini-jack. I connect the kit to my pc with a midi interface so under midi devices I had to select that mini interface, not the TD9 itself.
The thing I didn't immediately understand from this tutorial, is that I had to actually load the SSD5 kit by double clicking it in the VST menu.
when i search for the ssd5 plugin in the fx it does not appear :(
maybe you need to restart your DAW software, if you are using reaper make sure you are searching under the ALL plugins section, I don't think you need to restart your computer but you can try that,
also I think this guide could help:
stevenslatedrums.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360033139934-Plugins-Not-Showing-In-DAW
@@revelionsword thanks! that worked. the problem now is that reaper does get the sound but i can't hear it :/ i also have a td-17
@@oliverbarnosi3550 You won't hear the sound on Reaper when recording, actually you'll listen to it on your drum module when you press play, (this is the expected because your audio set up is TD 17 and that means the output is also your module, not your computer)
if you want to listen to it on your computer just simply go back to preferences > audio and select the default option again :D
When I press FX and search for the plugin there is no plugin
if you already installed it then try to restart reaper, or even your pc,
if that doesn't work I guess you didn't installed SSD5 properly
so you can not record it multitrack ?
no, you can't :c the output is a single track, if you need to export a multitrack drum you will have to do it manually by using the single "S" feature for muting all except the component you select, the "S" is close to the "M" Mute button and you can find it inside the SSD5 mixing options
@@revelionsword OK thank you
I dont know why you record the audio if that puts extra strain on the pc and you are not using the audio track at the end. Also I dont understand why all the hassle in recording the midi track when you can do exactly that more easily with Quick Record in any TD 11, 15, 17 and later modules. The midi file then can be exported to the pc for rendering with the audio track.
You were clipping bro. Not a good volume choosen