Great job! Well done in a clear vid that will def help the community. Something you may want to try yourself that I love, you can individually switch off the crosshairs in the mame game setup. Makes it feel just like the arcade, relying on your own accuracy.
Great, great video on how to set up the light gun. This will save anybody who gets them lots of time. I struggled with the turning on the camera part when I first got them. I also struggled getting the camera settings working correctly. I tried different settings on the actual monitor, and that did not work. I tried the contrast and brightness on the Sinden software, and it did not work. I changed it to a blue border which worked, but I did not like a blue border. I got it working in "dim display", but I just tried your Exposure setting. Bingo - perfection for my machine. Thanks.
Hoping all this feedback gets back to the Sinden team. They have a great product, the software interface could be simplified for a more streamlined setup for sure.
@@msmander87 Be sure to use your graphics card software to move the second monitor, windows doesn't make it pixel perfect which I've found can mess up the Sinden's ability to stay on one monitor.
Updated one coming soon. I've fully automated all the major lightguns, calibration will all that needs to be done. Just having a few others test it out to confirm I have it all working.
Excellent video! Im surprised you had to adjust the exposure like that, mine was solid out of the box and I am in a much darker room I think...now I want to check what mine was set at...Definitely check out the mame bezel packs that have the border built in, it doesnt overlap the game and you dont have to bother turning them on/off. The sinden community has released bezels for sm2/3 also
I see that you were doing everything from the game itself. I have a full arcade from game room solution. It has a raspberry pi inside the game. So you know if it’s a window system. Also do I need to connect my pc or just a keyboard to the game to get started? I also have sinden light-guns and trying to get started. Thanks
This is an excellent addition to any arcade cabinet! I would love to have one for my cabinet but I find it unfortunate that it costs almost as much as an Oculus Quest 2...
Nice video. Do you have plexiglass over it? I have a gameroom solutions full cabinet with 32 inch tv in it. The bottom border with the bezel packs are pretty narrow compared to the sinden lightgun borders. Trying to see what others have done here or if you recommend something? Was thinking either I can find a way to rebuild the images from the sinden lightgun bezel packs or use smaller than a 32 inch tv so the bottom border is more exposed. I think the angle of the screen also plays a factor. Thoughts?
Thank you for watching the video. Thank you for your hard work. I'm using "Sinden Light Gun." I heard that you have to keep the distance from the TV at least 3 meters. My living room is small, so it's only 2 meters away from the TV No, maybe that's why the camera doesn't focus well. In particular, when setting the Sinden gun, in the "Alignment" category, apply the Sinden gun left turn for 3 seconds I don't know how to move the arrow to the central position after pressing it. I don't understand because this part is ambiguous in the video. Please explain in more detail. Sinden is too difficult to set. I'm also curious about the setting values for the morning, afternoon, and night. Thank you. I wish you good health and happiness
Thanks! I'm using BigBox for my front end. This is actually the default theme. The cool thing with bigbox is you can configure each "level" to be text based as a list, or "wheel" based like Hyperspin. So whatever style suits your fancy
The Sinden has a button on the right that's mapped to the "ALT - B" command which will bring up the border. Otherwise you can configure some of the light games to use Bezel Art with borders. sindenlightgun.miraheze.org/wiki/Sinden_Bezel_Packs It's not necessary to turn off your marquee, as you can configure the software to ignore it. I show how that works in my video at: ruclips.net/video/iTyxD62S39M/видео.html But you can also go into windows and disable your marquee if you don't want to configure the Sinden software to ignore it.
Yes, thanks, I use those packs for a few of the emulators now, unfortunately Teknoparrot games are the most finicky. Have to run them in window mode for the most reliable consistency.
@@digitalamok3453 Quality always scales in price. But you pay not to have the headaches. I can play in any light condition and I don't need a border which doesn't come up reliably unless I build it into the emulator overlay. I also got a cheap pair of Aimtrack and had those modded for GUN4IR. Check out rpegelectronics.com
One question, after loading the game, how do you turn on the border?🤔 Oh, my bad, I see that in the configuration there is a button setout for the border. Btw, great channel.
Yes, it does overlap some of the actual game screen. However you can select the border thickness and reduce it as much as you can so it's effect is greatly minimized. I leave it at "medium" for most MAME template overlays because I'm in a very bright and reflective room, but darker rooms can work very well with a very 3-4 pixel wide border. That's where you'll want to experiment a bit to see which works.
@@farrellfontenot3939 Yes you can, I actually cover how to setup the Sinden software to "ignore" the marquee area. ruclips.net/video/iTyxD62S39M/видео.html The audio isn't up to my standard, I want to make another video detailing why this works, but this will get you started.
@@farrellfontenot3939 Yes you can, you just need to configure the Sinden software to "ignore" the marquee area. Details on how to set that up are here: ruclips.net/video/iTyxD62S39M/видео.html
Tough call. The Sinden is more accurate than the Aimtracks, but that's if you have the right lighting conditions for the Sinden. The Aimtracks are easier to setup and configure the emulators, so that's the tradeoff.
That's "jitter." The gun is trying to calculate it's position at all times and it needs to see all lines of the border to do so. Try increasing the brightness of your monitor/display or increase the exposure on the light gun. I've found that helps with accuracy. Then on the gun calibration you can set the "jitter percentage". Start with 1% and increase it slowly until you see an acceptable reduction of the shakiness, but it's still following the movement of the gun to your satisfaction.
@@IntegrumRetro I've tried every settings, Brightness, Contrast, Exposure, Hue, Saturation, the cursor still moves erratically left and right alot. I turned on Anti-Judder and it lags alot. I've tried going further back, turn off the lights, my monitor is at the max brightness, I tried game mode, I've tried setting mouse cursor speed to max. I just cannot get the mouse cursor to stop jumping left and right. I hope this is not defective since it passes QC.
@@WheeledHamster If you are still getting jitter, check you have a clean blue box during the configuration setup. The jerkyness usually means the gun isn't seeing the borders 100% of the time. You can increase the thickness of the borders and even change the color of the borders.
Good audio content, but please splurge on a screen recording app. You can even do split video, cheap and easy and lots of screen recording app options.
You can get these marquees from Vitrolight on Alibaba or their website/ebay. It's cheaper if you go with them direct. vitrolight.en.alibaba.com/?spm=a2700.12243863.0.0.5cae3e5fWvdAAt There are other vendors you can consider, just google "Stretch LCD"
hello. I enjoyed your video. I'm envious of playing a really cool gun shooting game. Impressed by your video, I bought a sinden light gun and installed it on my computer. I downloaded the gun shooting game "CoinOPS Next 2 - The Arch's Light Gun Build" and installed it on my computer. After running CoinOPS Next 2, Mame game confirmed that the sinden light gun works well after setting the key value by pressing the TAB key. By the way, here wii , ps1. ps2, demul, teknoparrot games do not know how to connect to the sinden light gun, so the game cannot be progressed. Do I have to set each game individually to set the sinden light gun? I am so confused as to what to do. Please help. So, be happy and have fun today.
I've built this around Launchbox/BigBox. I have my own tool that I wrote, but I utilized the launch before and after capabilities in Launchbox to make it all work seamlessly.
So I have a custom arcade cabinet with raspberry pi 4 emuelec installed and no outside PC.. how tf do I do this?? I wanna buy two guns but I’m afraid that I’ll be lost in regards to the setup and never get them to work 😭😭
It depends on the emulator, but the Sinden website has "Bezel Packs" which have the white borders built into the Bezels. I use them for both Retroarch and Mame now. It's cleaner because the borders don't overlap the actual game.
It does.. but not any longer... I hope to announce my autoconfig for all major lightguns. Beta testing has been going very well, with the Sindens being the most tedious to code all the logic needed for different emulators.
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Great job! Well done in a clear vid that will def help the community.
Something you may want to try yourself that I love, you can individually switch off the crosshairs in the mame game setup. Makes it feel just like the arcade, relying on your own accuracy.
Good presentation on the gun installation. Step by step
Great, great video on how to set up the light gun. This will save anybody who gets them lots of time. I struggled with the turning on the camera part when I first got them. I also struggled getting the camera settings working correctly. I tried different settings on the actual monitor, and that did not work. I tried the contrast and brightness on the Sinden software, and it did not work. I changed it to a blue border which worked, but I did not like a blue border. I got it working in "dim display", but I just tried your Exposure setting. Bingo - perfection for my machine. Thanks.
Hoping all this feedback gets back to the Sinden team. They have a great product, the software interface could be simplified for a more streamlined setup for sure.
Yeah I have to try that too when I get home, I'm having issues on getting it working.
@@msmander87 Be sure to use your graphics card software to move the second monitor, windows doesn't make it pixel perfect which I've found can mess up the Sinden's ability to stay on one monitor.
I’m not sure if I said thank you on your video, but this video is amazing so thank you so much for making it so easy to follow and straightforward!
Updated one coming soon. I've fully automated all the major lightguns, calibration will all that needs to be done. Just having a few others test it out to confirm I have it all working.
Excellent video! Im surprised you had to adjust the exposure like that, mine was solid out of the box and I am in a much darker room I think...now I want to check what mine was set at...Definitely check out the mame bezel packs that have the border built in, it doesnt overlap the game and you dont have to bother turning them on/off. The sinden community has released bezels for sm2/3 also
Gun looks familiar .... LOL Great, you have it figured out.
Awesome setup u got the best cabinet ive seen! my sinden is on its way! U got a new subscription. Plz post more sinden vids :D
What would you like to see next? I have configured every light gun game I can get my hands on. Would love requests for my next video.
@@IntegrumRetro Carneval. I got my sindens and havent even touched em really cuz i suck with setting up the emulators.
@@urzathehappy72 Are you running a Windows based machine? If so, I'll see about having a video done by this weekend for Carneval.
I see that you were doing everything from the game itself. I have a full arcade from game room solution. It has a raspberry pi inside the game. So you know if it’s a window system. Also do I need to connect my pc or just a keyboard to the game to get started? I also have sinden light-guns and trying to get started. Thanks
Do you have a list of all the hardware in your cabinet? I'd like to see what your rig is running.
Thanks for this video! Will be useful when I buy the sinden gun and megacade :)
This is an excellent addition to any arcade cabinet! I would love to have one for my cabinet but I find it unfortunate that it costs almost as much as an Oculus Quest 2...
Nice video. Do you have plexiglass over it? I have a gameroom solutions full cabinet with 32 inch tv in it. The bottom border with the bezel packs are pretty narrow compared to the sinden lightgun borders. Trying to see what others have done here or if you recommend something? Was thinking either I can find a way to rebuild the images from the sinden lightgun bezel packs or use smaller than a 32 inch tv so the bottom border is more exposed. I think the angle of the screen also plays a factor. Thoughts?
I used to have actual glass, but I took it out to put in hard wired Gun4IR sensors which couldn't fit under the glass.
Thank you for watching the video. Thank you for your hard work. I'm using "Sinden Light Gun." I heard that you have to keep the distance from the TV at least 3 meters. My living room is small, so it's only 2 meters away from the TV
No, maybe that's why the camera doesn't focus well.
In particular, when setting the Sinden gun, in the "Alignment" category, apply the Sinden gun left turn for 3 seconds
I don't know how to move the arrow to the central position after pressing it.
I don't understand because this part is ambiguous in the video.
Please explain in more detail. Sinden is too difficult to set.
I'm also curious about the setting values for the morning, afternoon, and night.
Thank you. I wish you good health and happiness
Nice video, thanks. What front end and theme is that? Very nice cabinet.
Thanks! I'm using BigBox for my front end. This is actually the default theme. The cool thing with bigbox is you can configure each "level" to be text based as a list, or "wheel" based like Hyperspin. So whatever style suits your fancy
Thanks for the explanation. One question, where did you get the glass for your hypermarquee and monitor?
The glass came with the arcade I bought. I have since removed the glass to install the LED sensors for GUN4IR.
How do switch off marque after setup - does marque need to be off to play with the sindens? Also how did you bring up the border in game?
The Sinden has a button on the right that's mapped to the "ALT - B" command which will bring up the border. Otherwise you can configure some of the light games to use Bezel Art with borders.
sindenlightgun.miraheze.org/wiki/Sinden_Bezel_Packs
It's not necessary to turn off your marquee, as you can configure the software to ignore it. I show how that works in my video at:
ruclips.net/video/iTyxD62S39M/видео.html
But you can also go into windows and disable your marquee if you don't want to configure the Sinden software to ignore it.
Just as an FYI there is a Sinden bezel pack on the discord channel that’s available now so that you can see the border and bezel together.
Yes, thanks, I use those packs for a few of the emulators now, unfortunately Teknoparrot games are the most finicky. Have to run them in window mode for the most reliable consistency.
oooooh! now I see why I didnt have that camera struggles on 1.05! Saved by the youtube live stream, lol!
can you make a wider boarder size than that? would hate to cut off that much of my screen
i will buy two of those lightguns this month,the seem to be very good
I prefer the GUN4IR better if you can get them.
@@IntegrumRetro yeah but they are expensive
@@digitalamok3453 Quality always scales in price. But you pay not to have the headaches. I can play in any light condition and I don't need a border which doesn't come up reliably unless I build it into the emulator overlay.
I also got a cheap pair of Aimtrack and had those modded for GUN4IR.
Check out rpegelectronics.com
@@IntegrumRetro the price is not worth for me,100 per gun i am fine,but 300 no,i will play on my pc at my 55 Oled Tv,there is no Arcade machine
Hi from where i can find this animation mouse cursor ? i really liked it
Great Video! Thanks!
Good guide. Saved for later.
One question, after loading the game, how do you turn on the border?🤔 Oh, my bad, I see that in the configuration there is a button setout for the border. Btw, great channel.
Does the white border interfere with the game? like does it eat actual game real estate screen?
Yes, it does overlap some of the actual game screen. However you can select the border thickness and reduce it as much as you can so it's effect is greatly minimized. I leave it at "medium" for most MAME template overlays because I'm in a very bright and reflective room, but darker rooms can work very well with a very 3-4 pixel wide border.
That's where you'll want to experiment a bit to see which works.
@@IntegrumRetro can you use these guns with the marquee turned on?
@@farrellfontenot3939 Yes you can, I actually cover how to setup the Sinden software to "ignore" the marquee area.
ruclips.net/video/iTyxD62S39M/видео.html
The audio isn't up to my standard, I want to make another video detailing why this works, but this will get you started.
@@farrellfontenot3939 Yes you can, you just need to configure the Sinden software to "ignore" the marquee area. Details on how to set that up are here:
ruclips.net/video/iTyxD62S39M/видео.html
@@IntegrumRetro thanks. One more question. How do you update the gun I heard you should not connect your megacade to the internet
Is sinden better than the light gun that came with the megacade that uses the lightbar?
Tough call. The Sinden is more accurate than the Aimtracks, but that's if you have the right lighting conditions for the Sinden.
The Aimtracks are easier to setup and configure the emulators, so that's the tradeoff.
Why do my mouse cursor wiggle around when I aim?
That's "jitter." The gun is trying to calculate it's position at all times and it needs to see all lines of the border to do so. Try increasing the brightness of your monitor/display or increase the exposure on the light gun. I've found that helps with accuracy.
Then on the gun calibration you can set the "jitter percentage". Start with 1% and increase it slowly until you see an acceptable reduction of the shakiness, but it's still following the movement of the gun to your satisfaction.
@@IntegrumRetro I've tried every settings, Brightness, Contrast, Exposure, Hue, Saturation, the cursor still moves erratically left and right alot. I turned on Anti-Judder and it lags alot. I've tried going further back, turn off the lights, my monitor is at the max brightness, I tried game mode, I've tried setting mouse cursor speed to max. I just cannot get the mouse cursor to stop jumping left and right. I hope this is not defective since it passes QC.
@@WheeledHamster If you are still getting jitter, check you have a clean blue box during the configuration setup. The jerkyness usually means the gun isn't seeing the borders 100% of the time. You can increase the thickness of the borders and even change the color of the borders.
Good audio content, but please splurge on a screen recording app. You can even do split video, cheap and easy and lots of screen recording app options.
I completely agree, this one was rushed, my updated videos will step up the quality.
Where did you order the Electronic Marquee from?
You can get these marquees from Vitrolight on Alibaba or their website/ebay. It's cheaper if you go with them direct. vitrolight.en.alibaba.com/?spm=a2700.12243863.0.0.5cae3e5fWvdAAt There are other vendors you can consider, just google "Stretch LCD"
hello. I enjoyed your video. I'm envious of playing a really cool gun shooting game. Impressed by your video, I bought a sinden light gun and installed it on my computer.
I downloaded the gun shooting game "CoinOPS Next 2 - The Arch's Light Gun Build" and installed it on my computer. After running CoinOPS Next 2, Mame game confirmed that the sinden light gun works well after setting the key value by pressing the TAB key. By the way, here wii , ps1. ps2, demul, teknoparrot games do not know how to connect to the sinden light gun, so the game cannot be progressed.
Do I have to set each game individually to set the sinden light gun?
I am so confused as to what to do.
Please help.
So, be happy and have fun today.
Not anymore.. check out my new lightgun drive I just released! ruclips.net/video/eLCyAyR56Ro/видео.html
I just got them and got them to work in windows but could get them to work in my arcade I am retrostation pc 4u and can not get them to work help
I've built this around Launchbox/BigBox. I have my own tool that I wrote, but I utilized the launch before and after capabilities in Launchbox to make it all work seamlessly.
So I have a custom arcade cabinet with raspberry pi 4 emuelec installed and no outside PC.. how tf do I do this?? I wanna buy two guns but I’m afraid that I’ll be lost in regards to the setup and never get them to work 😭😭
The sinden software has a linux version as well. The setup process (gun calibration) will be the same.
I would be interested in this light gun but that white border is a deal breaker for me.
I agree, I've transitioned to GUN4IR. Check out rpegelectronics.com
has anyone figured out to get it to work with the Bezels? i noticed in yours when you activated the border the bezel disappeared?
It depends on the emulator, but the Sinden website has "Bezel Packs" which have the white borders built into the Bezels. I use them for both Retroarch and Mame now. It's cleaner because the borders don't overlap the actual game.
@@IntegrumRetro where are the bezel packs? i can't seem to find them do you have a link?
found them 😁
I figured out how to setup the gun with any light gun game. Configuring any game takes alot of patience.
It does.. but not any longer... I hope to announce my autoconfig for all major lightguns. Beta testing has been going very well, with the Sindens being the most tedious to code all the logic needed for different emulators.
What version of mame are you using?
This video was . 234, but I usually upgrade on each release.
@@IntegrumRetro oh okay cause my issue is I am having lag on my guns for some reason. It may be the TV I am using
@@Dnizzle25 Double check you are in "game mode" as the video settings on the TV itself. That should ensure at least 60hz refresh rate.
Everything works up until I try to program the gun into the games... then it just stops. Anyone know how to get it working?
All the games are dependent on the emulator which makes it a chore. You may want to check out Ray's light gun drive from rpegelectronics.com
Great video but you cut out the best part, the part that everyone does how it actually works with the system, retroarch or mame.
Thanks for the feedback, I want to do a slew of educational videos on those topics now that I'm about wrapped up with a custom drive build I made.
wow....is that ALL I have to do??😂
But wait.. there's more! :)
wow nice cade im sure it cost a few bucks
The furniture wasn't cheap but the experience was priceless!