Ethan Klein realizing his fanbase is mostly crazy socialists is pure gold. (Also for those who want more info on the video editing contest for the full time position at aba & preach, go to our discord). Discord: discord.com/invite/abanpreach
imagine trump losing the elections and claiming 1 state that voted for him as a sovereign country. oh wait, when the confederates wanted out y'all went to war with them
The real story is Ethan absolutely obliterating Hasan the political streamer in a basic ass debate. He asked the type of questions a 6 year old would ask and Hasan went down like he got punched by Tyson.
Hasan doesnt know anything about foreign policy. "You can go anywhere in china pretty much." If you are a foreigner, you need to registrate every night where you sleep, and if your black, you basicly get your own agent that is following you around, no joke.
As a British woman who used to live + work in China, I am absolutely gobsmacked that this Hassan fellow has managed to have a job as a political commentator. When I consider how much imposter syndrome I have in situations where I'm actually NOT anywhere near this ignorant...
He’s a narcissist so he argues until he’s wrong, gets called out, then gets belligerent and throws a tantrum when he knows he’s wrong. People then get fed up and let him win so he just shuts the hell up.
The only reason he has that "job" is because of nepotism. His uncle Cenk Uygur is the one that got it for him. Otherwise he would be just another random nobody spouting off willfully stupid garbage.
Ethan and Sneako going through the same thing at the same time but from the opposite sides from the political spectrum is hilarious, extremists no matter from what side are always idiots
This exactly! And that Is why I can't stand the Anti woke, I dislike them as much as the woke groups, they are all the same! Just a bunch of REEEE screaming idiots! Who both shout the exact same just using different words.
I have been watching h3h3 pre podcast and his political stance hasn’t changed much. What has he said that’s would make people think he isn’t a capitalist? Genuine question
@@sub-harmonik Some people unironically think that not being on either extremes is being a fencesitter. Modern politics is insane (I'm assumming you are ironic here)
You guys recognizing that Ethan actually grew balls for once and pressed Hassan to have a fucking opinion is what makes me love this channel. Just because we dont usually see eye to eye with someone doesnt mean we cant recognize when they say something right.
I have yet to see a single person claiming that Ethan is an intellectual. And Hasan's fanbase constantly memes on him calling him a dumb Himbo. I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge, even in their fanbases, that these two aren't the brightest.
Both sides suck Oh no how Centrist of me. Yeah, both sides suck and normal people don't get involved with either. Be it redpill or whatever you call Ethan & Hasan
A lot of people are treating this like word salad, but actually I read it as even worse than that. It sounds like he's saying Taiwan is nothing beyond what China conceives of it as. I don't have much of a dog in that fight but from a moral perspective, I usually think people should be able to define themselves for the most part. But I understand why our government has to be careful about it because our official position on it as a country has ramifications when it comes to potential war. Weird to see online influencers tiptoe so carefully, though. No one's gonna get nuked if Hasan speaks about it imperfectly. lol.
"one country, two systems" refers to Hong Kong, not Taiwan. He's such a smooth brain posturing as an intellectual. Imagine not knowing the difference between Taiwan and Hong Kong.
He knows the difference. He’s saying that China views Taiwan bin a similar fashion as they view Hong Kong. (He is also saying he agrees with this) China does view Taiwan the way they view Hong Kong. The rest of the world, however, does *not* view Taiwan in the same fashion as Hong Kong. The rest of the world sees Taiwan as a separate nation-state.
@majorwakanda8858 incorrect. One country two systems is an official policy of the CCP that applies to Hong Kong. It does not apply to Taiwan as the CCP cannot at this time dictate policy in Taiwan. He also talks about them "declaring independence" as if it hasn't happened yet. He has no idea what he's talking about.
@@majorwakanda8858The rest of the world does not see Taiwan as a nation state, at least not officially, not even the USA. There are like a handful of countries that do and they’re mostly random islands.
He's a nepotism baby and an industry plant. So he had enough backing from the start to look like the go-to guy since people think bigger numbers (more followers and viewers) equals better and more corrrect streamers. That's why i stopped using Twitch as much since you can't have real discussions about topics without someone imploding or bringing personal anecdotes or whatever. It just turns into an echo chamber and a waste of time. Real politics allows opinions from both sides in a respectful environment.
Worse yet it was on something so easy to take a stance on. It's not like this was some kind of vague thing that requires forever to get a grasp on and is a niche topic. No it's a dispute regarding sovereignty that two of the current biggest world powers are involved in. We all know though that he LARPS as a communist and has cultivated an audience based on that so he can't shit on China for fear of pissing off his audience. Otherwise he would be dealing with what Ethan is dealing with right now, but even worse.
@@AaronTheWolfosso how exactly does that work in this scenario? I've heard of nepotism in the movie industry or the music industry, but I've never heard of a streamer nepo baby, does his uncle have some kind of mind control device that commands thousands of people to watch hasan everyday? and if his uncle really is the sole reason for his success, why did it take hasan 3 years of streaming to garner prominence on twitch? even destiny, the original twitch politics guy and someone who I'm sure you're a fan of, never had the kind of views that hasan has averaged for the last 2 years. it seems to me like there's more of a correlation between the 2020 elections and hasan's spike in popularity around that time than nepotism or him somehow being a twitch industry plant
Except, of Hassan was a little more informed, it's a fairly easy debate. The situation is Taiwan is more nuanced than your jingoism let's you see. I mean who exactly are the imperialists here? The U.S and the U.K, who backed a despot and a dictator into claiming the Taiwan government as the true government of China or the multibillion dollar corporations that him and his cronies built with U.S funding? I mean China isn't handling it the best, but let's stop acting like it some bad guy, good guy shit
@@tinamoul The situation in Taiwan is that barely 1% of Taiwanese want immediate reunification with China and barely 7% want to move towards unification at all. Mainland Chinese control of Taiwan would be unambiguously imperialist.
@@tinamoul US and UK supported a dictator and what are you doing right now? Taiwan is no longer a dictatorship. But China still is a dictatorship. But you want to defend it. The ROC the republic of China are the true Chinese government. Unlike the communists. Japan surrendered control of the island to the ROC. Taiwan belongs to the ROC. I find it funny when you socialist call out imperialism since communism is imperialism just by another name. The goal as marx laid out in the plans is not for one country but the entire world. This is true of every socialist. They want to conquer the world. That's why stalin and the USSR didn't leave countries and conquered during ww2 and before it. You are the imperialists. You want to make slaves of the people with an elite at the top. Even fuedal imperialism had more freedoms than the socialist imperialism. And socialist imperialism caused more deaths in such a short amount of time than any war history. Also socialist are nationalist you calling out other people for nationalism is hypocrisy. Expecially China. But this has been true of all socialist countries and all socialists.
@@tinamoulTaiwanese think they’re independent. They enjoy a high standard of living and freedom in a democracy. Mainland China wants to impose authoritarian rule, confiscate their wealth, smash their freedoms to smithereens. Mainland China is imperialist communist thuggery. There is no “both sides” here.
The sad thing is, he didn't even offer a position. The left will shut down and go after anyone (even an allie) that even asks a question of their doctrine. And that's all Ethan done - ask questions. Ultimately it's because they can't answer those questions.
Oh and by the way, Ethans questions and not automatically agreeing with the doctrine is only because he doesn't want to then face questions about sharing his business with his employees.
How's this man a extreme socialist/communist but at the same time a millionaire making huge amounts from his viewership and audience?? Doesn't make any sense to me
its called being a grift. his allignment is where the cash grab is at meaning for his own interest he cannot have a stance. Also both him and Ethan arent even anything remotly left leaning. their allignment is centrism than anything else.
I saw the title and I was happy Ethan's audience were turning on him. Then I saw the video and realised that it was because he stood up to Hasan's bullshit and I was double happy.
Yeah, Hasan got some messed up views. He's against racism unless it's done towards white people because apparently that doesn't exist. His stance on Taiwan and Hong Kong isn't surprising either.
I’ve been so impressed with Ethan lately. He’s totally demolished hassan in a handful of informal debates when Hassan is supposed to be the political expert on the show and he’s doubled down on being a capitalist to his audience of commies. I really hope he keeps this up.
He can’t. I never see watch anything that holds them accountable, if he does there something wrong with video creator, or he gives you bunch of what aboutisms.
"I wish hassan would hold China to the same standard he holds the US" Thats hard since US and China are on different levels when it comes to geopolitics. Its like comparing Botswana to France in the terms of geopolitical influence, military bases around the world, control over worldwide economic model etc... its just not the same. US has to be held to higher standard the same way how you have to hold judges, courts, police to higher standard then average citizens. The reason why US is today where it is and why China is where it is today where it is is because US has never met that higher standard which eroded the trust among people around the world and why people like Hasan make lots of money from anti-US rhetoric.
@@greatdude7279 America has been hated around the world for a while now. It just depends on what’s going on at the moment, and the country’s history with the USA.
Hasan will happily shit on his own country cause he knows his fans will support it, but he's too scared to lose any of his global fans, so he says nothing when it comes to global politics (which is his biggest fear of all)
That's the thing, he doesn't have his own opinion. He only says and parrots what his fans want him to say. He's a massive Hypocrite because of it. It's why Ethan is being insulted and turned on for simply asking questions.
Hasan is the most politically correct lefty streamer, he’ll only push edgy attention grabbing statements that he knows won’t get him any heat from Leftists and some Liberals. He got his ass handed by AdamSomething when the Ukraine stuff started, he knows better than to poke Taiwan after that debacle.
@@nuklearkhaos115 Ethan isn't being insulted and turned on for simply asking questions. He's being insulted and turned on because he's completely flip flopped into an entirely different person that honestly almost the opposite of how he used to be in the past. He spent many years cultivating a particular type of audience and now that his whole personality and demeanor has flipped, he's ostracizing more and more of the audience he himself spent over a decade cultivating. When you produce content that the audience you gathered doesn't like in mass, you're gonna get what Ethan is getting right now. It's no different from what Sneako is going through with his fanbase which Aba and Preach showcased in their last vid.
@@ZombieCSSTutorialscrystal is spelled Kristall in german Also it is not called that anymore because a crystal is usually associated with positive things The correct term is [Reichs]pogromnacht
"You know some dude is beating on his wife, and you're like: No, they're fine. You can go there for dinner and everything is calm: She's not dead. I didn't see any bruises on her." Man, that's comedy gold right there, best joke they've made so far and explains the situation and Hasans stance on China perfectly.
Funny, same can be said about the US govt, the Patriot Act and all rights Americans are slowly losing to their govt....but Hong Kong is being oppressed, ok. 🤦♀️
@@susiex6669 To compare the U.S. to what Hong Kong is going through is extremely inconsiderate to what they're actually dealing with. I did upvote you for the sentiment as there are issues that truly needs to be addressed. So, yes! There's issues with the U.S. gov as well, but it's not even in the same ballpark to what China is doing and what H.K. is dealing with.
@@T3n50r Not even the same? Did you read the patriot act? Are you an American citizen? Im American born but raised in Montreal and love knowing that the US govt can seize me, detain me indefinately without charge or telling anyone, have me face a secret court without allerting anyone....just by declaring me "a terrorist". How is this any better than what China does?
@@T3n50r Bruh the US has almost 5 TIMES per capita imprisonment rate compared to China, with a disproportionate representation in minorities. What are you smoking?
@@Erulilum.... yes china doesnt have minorities...... Are you ok? Black people and hispanics and whites dont go to china.... For very good reason. Also do you think china is imprisoning or killing dissenting people?
If anyone ever tells you that the “situation is too complex” for them to explain it to you, it isn’t because they truly think you’re too stupid to understand it, it’s because they actually don’t understand enough of the subject to explain it fully to anyone. Can’t count how many times I’ve been discussing something fairly simple with someone and they’ve said something like “you wouldn’t understand it’s too complex” just to shut down the convo because they actually don’t know what they’re taking about.
this is the most important message of this comment section. Albert Einstein said this. Also, It's anecdotal, but I was one of the best students for AP calc AB(1) and BC(1) at my high school. I understood it so thoroughly I tutored my classmates and friends. The key thing I want to point out is that i easily related the complicated topics to much easier to understand topics, and got people who had given up on succeeding in math into 4's and 5's on the final exams. Anyone who understands a topic deeply and is willing to claim so is able to at least try and express something worth saying.
When you start radicalize people, and ostracize people that don't agree with you, you'll eventually find yourself ostracized by the same people because they're willing to go past a line you're not comfortable with. It always happens. The USA is the prime example of this. Be accepting, and be able to talk about your points. Change people's minds by giving strong arguments, but be open to other arguments as well.
People rarely change their minds and opinions on things, political discorce is less about making a solid argument for your case and more of beating the other person
The problem I see is that we've gone beyond just trying to find solutions to problems. We've turned our STANCES on those problems into a group identity. Things like pro-life or pro-choice rarely seems to be about trying to figure the actual issue (the issues being: what's the cut-off point during fetal development when abortion becomes unethical, logistics for providing abortion clinic access, what situations should unconditionally accepted such as r*pe and medical reasons, and who should pay for all this). Instead, we bundle all these ideas into two watered-down stances. "I'm pro-choice" or "I'm pro-life". Hell, these reductionist stances are even badges on dating profiles. When a person takes a leap and simply incorporates the conclusion into their personal identity, things get even weirder. No longer do they try to work out the issue that's an external issue (granted, one that may affect them at some point), instead, they defend the conclusion using whatever justification necessary. It becomes, to that person, a self-evident moral truth. When you start poking holes in just one part of that multi-faceted topic, it's perceived as attacking their character, their identity. The worst part is that this process happens on both the left and the right, but both sides seem to think it doesn't happen THEIR side. My conservative mother literally cannot accept a fair criticism of the republican party. I can't bring up criticisms towards certain woke ideologies with my liberal friends, because they see no problems with that ideology going all-the-way to it's conclusion. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills being surrounded by political-fanatics that don't see how much they've drank the koolaid. The solution is to somehow train people to not take politics so personally. Take political issues as what they actually are: an issue that needs figuring out. Figuring stuff out requires brainstorming, questioning whether the status quo is acceptable or not, and testing whether unorthodox solutions are crazy or actually sane. But I'm just a lowly US citizen that's trying to figure out if the happy childhood I had will still be possible for my future kids. So what do I know?
@@patrickriarchy6054 I mean they became multi-millionaires together and they seem quite happy to be together. His marriage is probably one of the things that you can't really shit on him for. Unless I'm missing something
Correction: Hasan's job isn't to take political stances, it's to echo the political beliefs of his audience in a way that's conducive to maintaining a decently stable income. I thinks there's a name for it... and it rhymes with redgoober.
People become "political commentators" not to comment on politics but to win a fanbase on a political spectrum and be cool in their eyes and earn approval.
Ethan had a slow, painful realization that teaming up with Hasan was a terrible idea, and we've all witnessed it. Ethan is waking up, losing weight and seems cognitively more present, good for him!
One of the reasons I love this channel is because they understand nuance there are situations where a more conservative viewpoint is better and situations where a liberal viewpoint is better and they are able to call out both sides on their bs
Agreed. That's "probably???" the whole point of being in the middle of the bs politics divide as its truely a balancing act too much of one side fucks things up completely. It's to say fuck yall sides I'm on my own here
the way ethan turned around to ask "did i say the right place?" was hilarious. every bit of that body language was screaming "has he really not heard about hong kong?"
I feel I've got Aba's temperament and want to see people come around and am glad when it happens. At the same time, Preach is like "Yeah but there's consequences for what you supported before now coming back to you" and I can't really be sorry about it. The easy way to learn is to hear someone out, think about it, and change a little bit. The hard way to learn is through a bit of pain that comes as a direct consequence for your actions. How one will feel about Ethan after this is whether he's learned the lesson: Maybe not everyone who opposes me is my enemy.
The point Aba was making is that regardless of who this happens to, it's still wrong. It was wrong when it happened to A&P, and it's wrong that it's happening to Ethan. If you refuse to acknowledge that and just marinate in the "that's karma" sauce, then you're just being petty (which is fine, but it's still petty).
@@jimmyjams962 thanx for saying exactly what was said in the video as if it wasn’t. I know the difference. I don’t think that’s being petty. I think that’s understanding and respecting karma.
@@jimmyjams962 Totally disagree. I see where Preach is coming from, but I also think it's tough to verbalize it. When you have people like Ethan and Hasan, whether they're play acting or actually believe what comes out of their own mouths, reasonable voices come out and try to point out that you should always foster understanding even in disagreements, instead of fostering "your either with us, or against us" mentality because mob mentality is unreasonable, and they can turn and come for you just as easy. What's happening to Ethan is not about him getting "just desserts", it's about what reasonable voices have tried to implore upon him, for years, about why its only creating a negative environment. Because it should never be "us against them", "left vs right", nor "capitalist vs socialist" but people trying to find ways to compromise and work together to while having disagreements.
@@jimmyjams962 I think it's wrong and will argue against it every time. I won't say I'm surprised it has happened or not laugh at someone reaping what they sow though. I guess I am where Preach seems to be on this. Yes, it's wrong, but why are you surprised when this is what you push?
Good for Ethan for making Hasan answer the question. However, Ethan is far too late to the party and needs to do a whole lot of cleanup fir the mess he created.
Why is it so hard for people to just say: i dont know enough about this subject to have an opinion. Instead they bullshit through it and it makes them look even more stupid
"I should warn you that those who engage in cancel culture generally live to regret it..." "You will be held to higher and higher and soon impossible to maintain ethical standards by the very mob you currently wish to please. Then you will make a mistake, and they will devour you. With glee. Please take this warning seriously. I liked you." - Jordan Peterson to Ethan Klein, just 1 year ago.
The thing about Cancel Culture is it only works if your customer base are the ones cancelling you, there's a reason why Dave Chapelle's has been cancelled 10 times over but still has sold out shows, it's cause his actual fans weren't the ones cancelling him
Hasan is getting humiliated by a guy who got famous smearing his face in nacho cheese and ranch dressing. Ethan is finally waking up to the BS of breadtubers
The one time where I had a tiny shred of respect for Ethan. At least he stated his opinion and stood by it, whether good or bad, instead of being a coward or retracting it. Interesting...
The last good thing I remember coming from his mouth was when he was calling people pussies for freaking out over Trump, despite him pining for Hilary. That was 6 years ago
Well it’s not really his opinion, these are just known facts. If you agree that the CCP should have hold of Taiwan, and you think everything is alright over there, then you are delusional.
Jordan Peterson told him a couple of years ago now, that this was going to happen. I am glad to see that Ethan is starting to realise and acknowledge this disconnect. I just hope he continues his slow awakening. There is a chance we might get an Ethan Klein redemption arc.
Hassan is a rich kid. Rich kids seek validation in their perceived struggle that they never had. So easy to say give everything because you’ve always had everything. He’s never been to a hood or seen real struggle. He cry’s from his castle trying to relate to the common folk but has zero friends who are normal people
Ethan is not a socialist or a leftist, he’s a Democrat Liberal, they are very different actually. Hasans audience strongly dislikes Ethans liberal Democratic capitalist views. Ethan is not rethinking his political aligning, rather pushing back on the far left.
@@johnnyapplesmithSo in the end we just devour each other no matter what party we claim? It just keeps moving further and further till Democrats basically become Conservative (Republican)? Lol Politics is a joke, it's like trying to read a persons mind all the time and failing 100% of the time then lying to an audience about it .
Dan saying businesses are totalitarian just shows how little he knows and thinks. Companies are started off of capital, and if you have to have investors to gain that capital then there you have a board of investors that can make changes. This is how people get thrown out of their own company like Steve Jobs. Yes they own it and get a massive say, but there’s still a board that takes votes on stuff.
I mean having a board of a minority of people who influence the direction of a company usually based of profit generation motives and the the rest of the chain including manufacturers, designers, sales staff and logistics operatives get no say in the direction of the business. Try explain why planned obsolescence and monopolisation in the tech industry and avoid that companies are ran like totalitarian dictatorships.
Preach was preaching about 'rules for thee, not for me' now that Ethan has faced a similar political-spectrum inquiry he feels is an unfair representation Ethan only now sees the dangers of being reactionary, tribalist, and making enemies out of potential allies who believe a lot of the same things-- yet on one issue you may have a disagreement. I have several friends who I disagree with but enjoy debating, we don't have to demonize 'them' out to destroy 'us' using cancel-laden-labels like 'homophobe', 'misogynist', 'groomer' (unless actually a groomer, but plz stop throwing that word around unless it's a serious accusation) the second we don't think exactly alike. Now, his audience who have been trained to be reactionary and are more socialist-leaning than Ethan seems to be, will do what they will do-- is what Preach is saying here.
That's the challenge with some RUclips creators and any hivemind fan community. When you rely on a united fanbase, you'll face backlash if your views diverge from the collective opinion of your followers. Many content creators, particularly on RUclips, depend on their fanbase for income and find themselves constrained by the need to align with their audience's beliefs. The same dynamic can apply to political circles, where individuals may feel pressured to either fully agree with everything or completely disagree based on political party.
his first mistake was getting into online politics. no matter what you say or do you will trigger the most chronically online people ever over the smallest of things/disagreements
That's pretty much _almost_ everything, nowadays... and not just online. "Chronically online people" is just an excuse not to admit there has plenty of sh*tty people who behave and think this way offline.
@@ptolemeeselenion1542 While I don't necessarily disagree with your point, I do believe it's way more condensed on the internet due to echo chambers and the way it breeds and encourages performativity and virtue signalling.
@@shuttttt Tell me where in China you see the apocalyptic zombie streets of Philadelphia, San Fransisco and Vancouver full of lost youth addicted to opioids, dying each day? Those dealers would be unalived in China. Thats privilege to you? Western societies are crumbling to the ground, the East is rising but bozos like you still think you have the upper hand. 🙄🙄
"You can go anywhere in China", try to be a tourist and move freely in xinjiang. If it looks like you're snooping around you will be "helped to the right path" quickly.
@@thechuube8442 thats so funny you would say that, when you can literally use your brain and just look it up. Just last year when the camps for "reeducation" they had were still running, you could only film in xinjiang with a strict plan. How do you claim i lie without proof? Are you chinese?
@@gilgameshkingofheroes5903 The Horse Shoe theory, you go far enough left or right, eventually you’ll end up at the same conclusion for different reasons. I’ll give you an example. “We need to ban Video Games, they’re immoral and corrupting the youth,” Probably the Right “We need to ban video Games, they objectify women and are sexist,” -Probably the Left
Destiny is not some ideal people should be exemplifying. He fails on foreign policy and economics, which is why he shifted to debating red pill bros. Ethan would never dare to shift to Destiny’s fan base, a bunch of brain rot redditors. Ethan has businesses to run and clothes to sell.
Hasan has gotta have some kind of ties to china the way he absolutely will not say anything controversial from a Chinese perspective. That’s always stood out to me so I’m glad he kind of got caught up in it this time
Not necessarily. It's just that he LARPS at being a communist and they make up a very large portion of his audience. You can see it by how Ethan is having his audience chew him out for the take against China. Hassan's audience is even worse than Ethan's audience in that aspect.
Hassan is truly an epic caricature. He calls himself a Marxists, while living in a mansion up on the hills of Los Angeles. Brags about "workers solidarity," meanwhile --- he hasn't worked a day in his life.
Ngl, this is a bit of a strawman. I'm not a true Socialist, as I am a Social Democrat, but Socialism isn't a poverty cult, or a "simple living" cult. It's more or less advocating workers should "own the means of production"; but it's not saying "people shouldn't live in big houses", or have "no possessions". At least that what the theory is, but I will admit that there are cringe online "socialist" who will make Socialism seem like it means that everyone should live a poor or simple life.
Oh my goodness, thank you! You're not always gonna have the answer on the spot, and that is fine. Just say, "That is a good question, I don't have the answer for it now. But I will respond when I do."
I'm with Preach on this one. Why empathise soo much with someone who lacks it for anyone "on the other side"? This is literally the "shocking" consequences of his own actions.
Exactly. It's Aba picking and choosing when he wants to be understanding because most of the time he will rub it in. Preach is saying this is your utopia you created so live with it. I agree with Preach.
I do understand that he's responsible of his own demise therefore we shouldn't feel soory for him but empathy isn't something that you can fully control. Aba has his own reason to not be petty on this. But hey let's just hope that Ethan learned this lesson and will never do this to anyone else now that he know what it feels.
@@hjmp6236 That's fine. But it's the choice of words. It's unfair to call someone petty for stating facts. Preach wasn't being petty. He just had no sympathy.
Ethan realizing his annoying ultra left progressive audience he’s cultivated went against him irrationally is SOOOOOO funny😂 He’s stuck in that audience capture loop and he doesn’t like it!! 😂
Remember Folks, Ethan wanted Hasan’s audience. He wanted to move away from edgy humor to be a wannabe breadtuber, so he stopped being funny and started stroking off Hasan’s ego. He’s made his bed, now he has to sleep in it.
Young Ethan had edginess/creativity/drive. Old man Ethan is a relic of his former self. He used to chill so well with Post Malone, but then Ethan got "comfortable", as they say. He became a tool. An edge to a blade that lost its sharp long ago. I'm even surprised the guy stayed relevant for this long...
@@TurtleChad1 I truly hope not. Unlike the Ukranians, the Taiwanese are not nazis, criminals or extremely corrupt, they even had really good policies in regards to drug dealers! I really hope they get out of this shit...
@@TurtleChad1Actually it would be worse then Ukraine, because Russia and Ukraine share a border it’s easier to invade/repel. China would have to do an amphibious assault, and that would probably lead to at least 6 digit casualties. Especially if Japan, Vietnam, Philippines and the Korea’s get involved.
Everyone is roasting on Ethan, but I'll give credit for someone going down a rabbit hole and being aware enough to pull himself out. Yes Ethan said silly things in the past, but lately he has been saying things I see are more correct. Respect.
@@m.dave2141 This. Ethan did damage. If he's not going to make any effort to undo that damage, I don't care that he feels ostracized by the people he chose over his own audience.
@@bbbbbbb51 Weird i tried posting two links but don’t see them. Ron DeSantis defined it exactly that way when forced to by a court. Fox has an article if you search “desantis lawyer definition of woke”
@@Gobackto4chan short answer: woke means culturally communist. Btw the term “cultural Marxist” was started by the Frankfurt schools (communist) not by the chuds who are hiding under your bed.
“You will be held to higher and higher and soon impossible to maintain ethical standards by the very mob you currently wish to please. Then you will make a mistake, and they will devour you. With glee. Please take this warning seriously. I liked you.” - Jordan Peterson to Ethan when Ethan “disavowed” Jordan.
I wish JP would stick to talking about people. It's clearly his speciality and when he's most insightful both with cautions and compliments. It's when he gets to other topics that I think it'd be best if he just stayed quiet. He has a lot of interpersonal wisdom.
I feel both of their closing arguments. Preach is 100% "you reap what you sow" and Aba is "this is what we've been saying all along. I hope you learn and grow from this". They playing good cop/ bad cop 😂
I remember Jordan Peterson warning Ethan that this would happen to him if he chose this path. I do not wish this on people but he made his own bed and he tried to ruin a lot of people's lives for minimal stuff so it somehow feels good to watch it fall back on him.
Listening to Hasan is like that time you're mother wakes you up from a deep sleep only to find out you just agreed to plow the snow out of your neighbors yard on a Sunday
Too many people (Hasan and Ethan are perfect examples) care far more about what political persuasion they are and categorising themselves than talking sense.
Ethan spoke well in this conversation, I Can't say the same about Hasan or Ethan's producer Dan.. Those two guys are lost in the sauce with their socialism pipe dream.
Ethan Klein once again realising he's cultivated an audience that'll eat him alive the moment he disagrees. Him and Hasan are in a pool of sharks and Hasan's trying not to make them mad, but Ethan keeps bouncing off the walls and jumping in front of the sharks' friggin laser beams.
Lets be real here, EVERY prominent content creator has an audience that will turn on them for any perceived split in ideology. This is hardly some Ethan-specific L dude.
@@nope5657 I doubt it. Most people aren't ideologically bent or politically active. Creators attract and repel certain types of people based on their content - Instagram girls attract horny dudes, gamers attract fellow gamers, and Hasan and Ethan attract angry mobs of Socialist pirhanas who go into a frenzy the moment a "not left enough" opinion hits the water.
@@nope5657 Not really, some people cultivate rational audiences. Those where they are a few crazies sure, but if the content creators reason for disagreement is logical or at least sincere they wouldn't care and just consider it business as usual. However, being an asshole or hypocrite to your audience is a whole different ballgame than disagreeing. As for Ethan Specific Ls, well, he just found out a lot of his audience hates Israel and wants Hamas to level it to the ground (I'm not exaggeration or picking a side, just saying what they where saying). Ethan had the biggest shock of his life realising he cultivated an Antisemitic audience,...... while being Jewish, with an Israeli wife.
Ethan is one of those unique people who is clearly blatantly cartoonishly evil sometimes, but he keeps trying to point at other people and say "YOU'RE CRAZY, YOU'RE SUCH A BAD GUY, YOU'RE EVIL" like- I don't think this man has ever looked in a mirror before...
I rarely if any have respect for Ethan because he's a troll in ALOT of cases, but him showing confidence in his position here really shows potential. It's also bringing me sadistic joy to watch political fellows eat each other alive. It's like going to church and church goers fighting in the parking lot because someone doesn't love god enough.
What Aba said about just not wanting to disappear is so relatable to me. I grew up with a lot of bitter Hawaiians about the overthrow of Hawaiʻi and want to become independent again. But in todays climate, we would be razed to the ground over territory for any of the worlds powers. All of which the general public cant really wrap their head around the concept
Ethan used to be this based. Glad he's setting to return to being based if only a little. My favorite description of Ethan recently was someone calling him the drunken master
Isn't amazing how all these American socialists, don't move to socialist countries. They love the idea as long as they have the freedoms they have here. Aren't willing to give those up to go live their dream.
They're dumb, but you still have freedom in China, you can't insult the president or put propaganda, but that's not what freedom is about. Anyhow, Hasan shouldn't be taken seriously when talking about politics.
I haven't seen an American "socialist" who isn't just a cosplaying liberal. It's super weird to watch these clowns calling themselves words they don't even understand
The amount of mental gymnastics the hasan does when he is explaining something or saying something mind-boggling like I have a better shot of figuring out the the five unsolved math problems then I do with hasan with his logic and explanations
I've watched a good portion of that VOD and I've gotta say I'm quite surprised Ethan was actually questioning Hasan's position on China. I don't like him, but you've gotta give him that. Watching Hasan squirm was quite satisfying.
Remember when Ethan rejected Jordan Peterson and took down his interview with him because he was afraid of getting cancelled, and Jordan aptly said “they’ll come for you too”. They’re here for you Ethan, get out while you still can.
People as ideologically extreme as Ethan, really don't see the irony in their behavior when stuff like this happens to them. And Hasan trying really hard to dance around coming out as an all out shill for the CCP, was pure gold 🤣
I agree that his audience shouldn't behave like that, but I still think he got what he deserved. He made this monster of an audience and monetized it, now it turned on him. He made his bed, and now he has to lie in it.
"you can go to Hong Kong" If you're somebody on China's radar and you talk about what happened in Hong Kong/about independent Taiwan then you cannot "go to Hong Kong", you will be stopped and bared from entry.
Yeah I'm with Preach on this one. Some people aren't persuaded by rational discourse (whether or not the position is correct), only the consequences of their actions. The only way Ethan will grow is to go through the ringer. We wish him well, but he deserves this. We'd be doing him a disservice by shielding him from the monster he created.
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Ethan Klein realizing his fanbase is mostly crazy socialists is pure gold. (Also for those who want more info on the video editing contest for the full time position at aba & preach, go to our discord).
Discord: discord.com/invite/abanpreach
Debate Hasan then?
@@TurtleChad1Hasan can’t Hyde forever
@@TurtleChad1that would be child abuse on Aba’s part
@@tonybablony2041Aba would get schooled
@@TurtleChad1He should debate Sam Hyde first.
Can't lie the "if you love China so much why don't you marry it" could possibly be the funniest thing Ethan has said in a long time
If China is so big, then why won't it fight me??
like im like finally the old ethan is back just peeked to say hi for a second
The most stupid thing to say
Seems more childish than funny to me.
Ha ha ha.
Hasan having to use his brain for once, and what comes out of his mouth is “Taiwan is the Chinese concept of Taiwan”. Well done sir, you’re a genius.
Water is the ocean concept of water.
If hasan said his actual opinion about this situation he knows he'll get backlash. He was trying so hard to dodge ethans questions
imagine trump losing the elections and claiming 1 state that voted for him as a sovereign country. oh wait, when the confederates wanted out y'all went to war with them
@@joseroa5243no. It would be more like puddle is the lake concept of puddle.
So groundbreaking. Brave. Selfless. All Hail Hasan.
The real story is Ethan absolutely obliterating Hasan the political streamer in a basic ass debate. He asked the type of questions a 6 year old would ask and Hasan went down like he got punched by Tyson.
So embarassing 😂
Punched by Tyson, the men he’s hit or the women?
Maybe thats why hasans fans got mad they were butt hurt 😂😂
Hasan doesnt know anything about foreign policy. "You can go anywhere in china pretty much." If you are a foreigner, you need to registrate every night where you sleep, and if your black, you basicly get your own agent that is following you around, no joke.
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If Iron Mike's swinging, and you don't get out of the way, that's on you....or her. 🤣
As a British woman who used to live + work in China, I am absolutely gobsmacked that this Hassan fellow has managed to have a job as a political commentator. When I consider how much imposter syndrome I have in situations where I'm actually NOT anywhere near this ignorant...
He’s a narcissist so he argues until he’s wrong, gets called out, then gets belligerent and throws a tantrum when he knows he’s wrong. People then get fed up and let him win so he just shuts the hell up.
Dunning Krueger effect in full display, he to stupid to even realize he should be embarrassed.
You didn't have to say you were British you could have just said gobsmacked and we'd have known
The only reason he has that "job" is because of nepotism. His uncle Cenk Uygur is the one that got it for him. Otherwise he would be just another random nobody spouting off willfully stupid garbage.
He's got a job because he's related to one of the dudes off the young turks that is also on shark tank
Ethan and Sneako going through the same thing at the same time but from the opposite sides from the political spectrum is hilarious, extremists no matter from what side are always idiots
This exactly! And that Is why I can't stand the Anti woke, I dislike them as much as the woke groups, they are all the same! Just a bunch of REEEE screaming idiots! Who both shout the exact same just using different words.
The Horse Shoe theory in action.
FENCESITTER REEE
I have been watching h3h3 pre podcast and his political stance hasn’t changed much. What has he said that’s would make people think he isn’t a capitalist? Genuine question
@@sub-harmonik Some people unironically think that not being on either extremes is being a fencesitter. Modern politics is insane (I'm assumming you are ironic here)
It blows my mind that people have the mental tolerance to listen to Ethan and Hasan.
Maybe a certain percent listen for laughs like Aba & Preach.
Sadly hate watchers are a thing.
@@drnobody418In what deranged universe are they funny or make someone laugh with them instead of at them?
They aren't real people they are just Internet fodder. Nobody really talks and acts like this in real life without consequences.
@@Codemeister1105
People like laughing at people I guess.
Hatewatching is also a thing.
You guys recognizing that Ethan actually grew balls for once and pressed Hassan to have a fucking opinion is what makes me love this channel. Just because we dont usually see eye to eye with someone doesnt mean we cant recognize when they say something right.
You understand that Hasan answer is US policy right?
🤡 🌎 and fakes
@@javier8015keep riding him
@sahirdamani1264 riding who? Hasan? The guys is an idiot and should be called out as one but when he is actually right why would I call him out
@@javier8015 wrong
Ethan and Hassan are intellectuals to their fans. Let that sink in, imagine the person that looks to them for their political beliefs
That's what lack of critical thinking and common sense does. It makes you look up to clowns.
Intolerant unfulfilled and pesticides
I have yet to see a single person claiming that Ethan is an intellectual. And Hasan's fanbase constantly memes on him calling him a dumb Himbo. I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge, even in their fanbases, that these two aren't the brightest.
@@shuttttt why would they follow them then...hasan becaus eof looks i guess
@@shutttttSo why do people watch/listen?
Ethan is slowly realizing that he joined up with the bad guys.
Hasan is true Marxist standing up for the working class. Show some respect 🌹✊
@@TurtleChad1not even close
Are we the baddies???
Both sides suck
Oh no how Centrist of me. Yeah, both sides suck and normal people don't get involved with either. Be it redpill or whatever you call Ethan & Hasan
@@TurtleChad1 He sure enjoys others being "working class" but not himself.
“What happened in Hong Kong?”
-Hasan Piker, political commentator.
Insert hear no evil, see no evil and speak no evil reference.
"Taiwan is the Chinese concept of Taiwan."
It takes more and more these days to leave you speechless, but Hasan came through.
Sounded a whole lot like Kamala
A lot of people are treating this like word salad, but actually I read it as even worse than that. It sounds like he's saying Taiwan is nothing beyond what China conceives of it as. I don't have much of a dog in that fight but from a moral perspective, I usually think people should be able to define themselves for the most part. But I understand why our government has to be careful about it because our official position on it as a country has ramifications when it comes to potential war. Weird to see online influencers tiptoe so carefully, though. No one's gonna get nuked if Hasan speaks about it imperfectly. lol.
I think he means Taiwan is Chinas Hawaii by that still doesn’t make sense.
“In China, the majority population are Asian individuals” - Hasan probably, idk
Why is Hasan so protective of China? What does he gain by not criticizing them?
"one country, two systems" refers to Hong Kong, not Taiwan. He's such a smooth brain posturing as an intellectual. Imagine not knowing the difference between Taiwan and Hong Kong.
He knows the difference. He’s saying that China views Taiwan bin a similar fashion as they view Hong Kong. (He is also saying he agrees with this) China does view Taiwan the way they view Hong Kong. The rest of the world, however, does *not* view Taiwan in the same fashion as Hong Kong. The rest of the world sees Taiwan as a separate nation-state.
@majorwakanda8858 incorrect. One country two systems is an official policy of the CCP that applies to Hong Kong. It does not apply to Taiwan as the CCP cannot at this time dictate policy in Taiwan. He also talks about them "declaring independence" as if it hasn't happened yet. He has no idea what he's talking about.
@@majorwakanda8858The rest of the world does not see Taiwan as a nation state, at least not officially, not even the USA. There are like a handful of countries that do and they’re mostly random islands.
@@ojogbaneamedu2501thats false a lot of hispanic mainland countries mention allegiance to the COUNTRY of taiwan
You're first mistake was expecting a bigot to know the difference between Taiwanese & Chinese people.
The fact Hasan is probably THE “political talk” guy on Twitch right now, it’s ironic that he couldn’t make *one* strong, informed take.
He's a nepotism baby and an industry plant. So he had enough backing from the start to look like the go-to guy since people think bigger numbers (more followers and viewers) equals better and more corrrect streamers. That's why i stopped using Twitch as much since you can't have real discussions about topics without someone imploding or bringing personal anecdotes or whatever. It just turns into an echo chamber and a waste of time. Real politics allows opinions from both sides in a respectful environment.
Worse yet it was on something so easy to take a stance on. It's not like this was some kind of vague thing that requires forever to get a grasp on and is a niche topic. No it's a dispute regarding sovereignty that two of the current biggest world powers are involved in.
We all know though that he LARPS as a communist and has cultivated an audience based on that so he can't shit on China for fear of pissing off his audience. Otherwise he would be dealing with what Ethan is dealing with right now, but even worse.
If anyone takes his view’s seriously they should be evaluated. The communist Marxist Hassan who makes tens of millions and doesn’t give it back lmao
@@AaronTheWolfosso how exactly does that work in this scenario? I've heard of nepotism in the movie industry or the music industry, but I've never heard of a streamer nepo baby, does his uncle have some kind of mind control device that commands thousands of people to watch hasan everyday? and if his uncle really is the sole reason for his success, why did it take hasan 3 years of streaming to garner prominence on twitch? even destiny, the original twitch politics guy and someone who I'm sure you're a fan of, never had the kind of views that hasan has averaged for the last 2 years. it seems to me like there's more of a correlation between the 2020 elections and hasan's spike in popularity around that time than nepotism or him somehow being a twitch industry plant
Because he's a fence sitter who knows nothing.
“You can’t plant grass, and then be mad when you end up with grass”
-preach
"I like grass, grass is good"
- Me
also "you made your bed, sleep in it"
@throwaway3873 i love turts
You can't make a crap sandwich and be surprised when it tastes like crap
Why does a midget laugh when he runs through grass? His nuts gets tickled.
Hasan: opposes imperialism
Also Hasan: "Taiwan is the Chinese concept of Taiwan"
Except, of Hassan was a little more informed, it's a fairly easy debate. The situation is Taiwan is more nuanced than your jingoism let's you see. I mean who exactly are the imperialists here? The U.S and the U.K, who backed a despot and a dictator into claiming the Taiwan government as the true government of China or the multibillion dollar corporations that him and his cronies built with U.S funding? I mean China isn't handling it the best, but let's stop acting like it some bad guy, good guy shit
@@tinamoul The situation in Taiwan is that barely 1% of Taiwanese want immediate reunification with China and barely 7% want to move towards unification at all. Mainland Chinese control of Taiwan would be unambiguously imperialist.
@@tinamoulnot trusting a furry
@@tinamoul US and UK supported a dictator and what are you doing right now? Taiwan is no longer a dictatorship. But China still is a dictatorship. But you want to defend it. The ROC the republic of China are the true Chinese government. Unlike the communists. Japan surrendered control of the island to the ROC. Taiwan belongs to the ROC. I find it funny when you socialist call out imperialism since communism is imperialism just by another name. The goal as marx laid out in the plans is not for one country but the entire world. This is true of every socialist. They want to conquer the world. That's why stalin and the USSR didn't leave countries and conquered during ww2 and before it. You are the imperialists. You want to make slaves of the people with an elite at the top. Even fuedal imperialism had more freedoms than the socialist imperialism. And socialist imperialism caused more deaths in such a short amount of time than any war history. Also socialist are nationalist you calling out other people for nationalism is hypocrisy. Expecially China. But this has been true of all socialist countries and all socialists.
@@tinamoulTaiwanese think they’re independent. They enjoy a high standard of living and freedom in a democracy.
Mainland China wants to impose authoritarian rule, confiscate their wealth, smash their freedoms to smithereens.
Mainland China is imperialist communist thuggery. There is no “both sides” here.
“Class traitor” mind boggling that his fans actually believe they’re in the same tax bracket as Ethan and Hassan.
they deserve hassan and ethan. if it were anyone else more respectable or smart, we would probably respect their ideology and politics.😂
The real sad part is that Hassan was born in a different class to begin with, his fans know it and stlll end up forgetting every 20 seconds.
@@aR0ttenBANANAboth were. Ethan and Hila's "we were so poor" stories are BS
The funniest part is that none of their fans are working class 😂😂😂😂😂 they’re all bi upper middle class white women
@@Piqueblinders11Most socialist are rich kids, Marx himself came from a rich family
I'm actually proud of Ethan for standing up for what he believed.
The sad thing is, he didn't even offer a position. The left will shut down and go after anyone (even an allie) that even asks a question of their doctrine.
And that's all Ethan done - ask questions.
Ultimately it's because they can't answer those questions.
Oh and by the way, Ethans questions and not automatically agreeing with the doctrine is only because he doesn't want to then face questions about sharing his business with his employees.
@@outofthetrash5925He’s been a capitalist since his start on RUclips and before he started his company.
Agreed. Should be praising him. Hasan is an idiot
The last time I agreed with ethan was so long ago. I believe it was for the "humongous" guy.
Hasan is always so ill prepared to have his own opinion. He's so used to just agreeing with his audience he doesn't have a second level of thought.
He's such a coward, he always has these super strong opinions but of course he's lost for words here. He has zero back bone when pushed at all.
Please.
The guy is called "Cenk's nephew".
How's this man a extreme socialist/communist but at the same time a millionaire making huge amounts from his viewership and audience?? Doesn't make any sense to me
@@SYLV_IN it's called a champagne socialist.
its called being a grift. his allignment is where the cash grab is at meaning for his own interest he cannot have a stance. Also both him and Ethan arent even anything remotly left leaning. their allignment is centrism than anything else.
I saw the title and I was happy Ethan's audience were turning on him. Then I saw the video and realised that it was because he stood up to Hasan's bullshit and I was double happy.
Seems like they turn on him a few times a year. His old fanbase always had his back till he denounced them.
Yeah, Hasan got some messed up views. He's against racism unless it's done towards white people because apparently that doesn't exist. His stance on Taiwan and Hong Kong isn't surprising either.
My first reaction was to defend the dude cus wthh.. but he really planted this
I’ve been so impressed with Ethan lately. He’s totally demolished hassan in a handful of informal debates when Hassan is supposed to be the political expert on the show and he’s doubled down on being a capitalist to his audience of commies. I really hope he keeps this up.
Don't watch any of their more recent videos, where they talk about their disagreements. Too adult for this audience.
I wish hassan would hold China to the same standard he holds the US
He can’t. I never see watch anything that holds them accountable, if he does there something wrong with video creator, or he gives you bunch of what aboutisms.
"I wish hassan would hold China to the same standard he holds the US"
Thats hard since US and China are on different levels when it comes to geopolitics.
Its like comparing Botswana to France in the terms of geopolitical influence, military bases around the world, control over worldwide economic model etc... its just not the same.
US has to be held to higher standard the same way how you have to hold judges, courts, police to higher standard then average citizens. The reason why US is today where it is and why China is where it is today where it is is because US has never met that higher standard which eroded the trust among people around the world and why people like Hasan make lots of money from anti-US rhetoric.
@@greatdude7279 America has been hated around the world for a while now. It just depends on what’s going on at the moment, and the country’s history with the USA.
That would require principles & logic. Hassan has neither of these things.
@greatdude7279 the last words summed it up pretty good in general, he makes money from it
When has “American policies.” EVER stopped him from having his own opinion?? Like wtf
Hasan will happily shit on his own country cause he knows his fans will support it, but he's too scared to lose any of his global fans, so he says nothing when it comes to global politics (which is his biggest fear of all)
That's the thing, he doesn't have his own opinion. He only says and parrots what his fans want him to say. He's a massive Hypocrite because of it. It's why Ethan is being insulted and turned on for simply asking questions.
Hasan is the most politically correct lefty streamer, he’ll only push edgy attention grabbing statements that he knows won’t get him any heat from Leftists and some Liberals. He got his ass handed by AdamSomething when the Ukraine stuff started, he knows better than to poke Taiwan after that debacle.
@@nuklearkhaos115 Ethan isn't being insulted and turned on for simply asking questions. He's being insulted and turned on because he's completely flip flopped into an entirely different person that honestly almost the opposite of how he used to be in the past. He spent many years cultivating a particular type of audience and now that his whole personality and demeanor has flipped, he's ostracizing more and more of the audience he himself spent over a decade cultivating. When you produce content that the audience you gathered doesn't like in mass, you're gonna get what Ethan is getting right now.
It's no different from what Sneako is going through with his fanbase which Aba and Preach showcased in their last vid.
Ethan - “they took away Jewish rights man.”
Hasan - “what do you mean? Stores are still open. It’s just a bit of broken glass. Shoplifting is fine!”
Well said. If it would make him money, Hasan would deny the holocaust.
"it's only a dorito bag"
Krystalnacht came to mind when i read that lmao.
@@ZombieCSSTutorialscrystal is spelled Kristall in german
Also it is not called that anymore because a crystal is usually associated with positive things
The correct term is [Reichs]pogromnacht
@@jonasrmb01yeah we’ll stick to Kristallnacht, thanks though.
"You know some dude is beating on his wife, and you're like: No, they're fine. You can go there for dinner and everything is calm: She's not dead. I didn't see any bruises on her." Man, that's comedy gold right there, best joke they've made so far and explains the situation and Hasans stance on China perfectly.
Funny, same can be said about the US govt, the Patriot Act and all rights Americans are slowly losing to their govt....but Hong Kong is being oppressed, ok. 🤦♀️
@@susiex6669 To compare the U.S. to what Hong Kong is going through is extremely inconsiderate to what they're actually dealing with. I did upvote you for the sentiment as there are issues that truly needs to be addressed. So, yes! There's issues with the U.S. gov as well, but it's not even in the same ballpark to what China is doing and what H.K. is dealing with.
@@T3n50r Not even the same? Did you read the patriot act? Are you an American citizen? Im American born but raised in Montreal and love knowing that the US govt can seize me, detain me indefinately without charge or telling anyone, have me face a secret court without allerting anyone....just by declaring me "a terrorist". How is this any better than what China does?
@@T3n50r Bruh the US has almost 5 TIMES per capita imprisonment rate compared to China, with a disproportionate representation in minorities. What are you smoking?
@@Erulilum.... yes china doesnt have minorities......
Are you ok?
Black people and hispanics and whites dont go to china....
For very good reason.
Also do you think china is imprisoning or killing dissenting people?
If anyone ever tells you that the “situation is too complex” for them to explain it to you, it isn’t because they truly think you’re too stupid to understand it, it’s because they actually don’t understand enough of the subject to explain it fully to anyone. Can’t count how many times I’ve been discussing something fairly simple with someone and they’ve said something like “you wouldn’t understand it’s too complex” just to shut down the convo because they actually don’t know what they’re taking about.
this is the most important message of this comment section. Albert Einstein said this. Also, It's anecdotal, but I was one of the best students for AP calc AB(1) and BC(1) at my high school. I understood it so thoroughly I tutored my classmates and friends. The key thing I want to point out is that i easily related the complicated topics to much easier to understand topics, and got people who had given up on succeeding in math into 4's and 5's on the final exams. Anyone who understands a topic deeply and is willing to claim so is able to at least try and express something worth saying.
Thats the age old concept of being a good teacher. You know you understand a concept in and out when you can explain it in simple terms.
When you start radicalize people, and ostracize people that don't agree with you, you'll eventually find yourself ostracized by the same people because they're willing to go past a line you're not comfortable with. It always happens. The USA is the prime example of this. Be accepting, and be able to talk about your points. Change people's minds by giving strong arguments, but be open to other arguments as well.
People rarely change their minds and opinions on things, political discorce is less about making a solid argument for your case and more of beating the other person
@@voidcowboy4327 "People rarely change their minds and opinions on things" Yeh maybe in the USA, land of the retards
How is the USA even remotely close to being the "prime example" of this? There are first world nations that barely even have free speech...
The left should be dismantled entirely, forever.
The problem I see is that we've gone beyond just trying to find solutions to problems. We've turned our STANCES on those problems into a group identity.
Things like pro-life or pro-choice rarely seems to be about trying to figure the actual issue (the issues being: what's the cut-off point during fetal development when abortion becomes unethical, logistics for providing abortion clinic access, what situations should unconditionally accepted such as r*pe and medical reasons, and who should pay for all this). Instead, we bundle all these ideas into two watered-down stances. "I'm pro-choice" or "I'm pro-life". Hell, these reductionist stances are even badges on dating profiles.
When a person takes a leap and simply incorporates the conclusion into their personal identity, things get even weirder. No longer do they try to work out the issue that's an external issue (granted, one that may affect them at some point), instead, they defend the conclusion using whatever justification necessary. It becomes, to that person, a self-evident moral truth. When you start poking holes in just one part of that multi-faceted topic, it's perceived as attacking their character, their identity.
The worst part is that this process happens on both the left and the right, but both sides seem to think it doesn't happen THEIR side. My conservative mother literally cannot accept a fair criticism of the republican party. I can't bring up criticisms towards certain woke ideologies with my liberal friends, because they see no problems with that ideology going all-the-way to it's conclusion. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills being surrounded by political-fanatics that don't see how much they've drank the koolaid.
The solution is to somehow train people to not take politics so personally. Take political issues as what they actually are: an issue that needs figuring out. Figuring stuff out requires brainstorming, questioning whether the status quo is acceptable or not, and testing whether unorthodox solutions are crazy or actually sane.
But I'm just a lowly US citizen that's trying to figure out if the happy childhood I had will still be possible for my future kids. So what do I know?
Aba n Preach laughing at Ethan's "why dont you marry China" is golden, always a disaster when politics are involved
I want to marry China.
Very peewee of him. (R.I.P. Paul Ruben).
I cannot imagine anything more embarrassing than getting owned by Ethan.
Being married to him?.
Being Ethan
@@patrickriarchy6054 I mean they became multi-millionaires together and they seem quite happy to be together. His marriage is probably one of the things that you can't really shit on him for. Unless I'm missing something
God damn guys.... y'all fùçķ!ng lit that match and burned ethan so bad that he now has an "N" word pass.
@@shuttttt
They got divorced and she is still living with him as a "friend".
16:00 one really good metaphor is: He spent all this time raising monsters, and now wants to act surprised when the monsters are devouring him.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh😮😂🎉
Cool avatar, loser
I've built this abyss, and now it's staring at me.
Correction: Hasan's job isn't to take political stances, it's to echo the political beliefs of his audience in a way that's conducive to maintaining a decently stable income. I thinks there's a name for it... and it rhymes with redgoober.
Yep. That’s why he said his view is “whatever the American policy is”.
>decently stable income
LMAO
He is a preacher
Just tell me what it is because I don't know what rhymes with that 😂
I assume it’s breadtuber? I’m not even sure wtf a breadtuber is i just heard of it before
People become "political commentators" not to comment on politics but to win a fanbase on a political spectrum and be cool in their eyes and earn approval.
facts, aba & preach do this w dating and relationship content
3:14 "Hasan is very talented at using a lot of words to say nothing and then look at you like you're an idiot" couldn't have phrased this any better
He should be a politician. He’d fit right in with them saying nothing
Ethan had a slow, painful realization that teaming up with Hasan was a terrible idea, and we've all witnessed it.
Ethan is waking up, losing weight and seems cognitively more present, good for him!
Must be finally listening to Andrew Tate. One thing about the right? We. Don’t hate people forever like the left. Welcome to the common sense side
This is such a wild take lmao
@@TravisRiver *soy rage voice* i cant quite understand why i disagree, but i do!
@@based_oregano 🤡
Narrator:Ethan was not, in fact, cognitively more present. By october he would be very unhinged.
One of the reasons I love this channel is because they understand nuance there are situations where a more conservative viewpoint is better and situations where a liberal viewpoint is better and they are able to call out both sides on their bs
Agreed. That's "probably???" the whole point of being in the middle of the bs politics divide as its truely a balancing act too much of one side fucks things up completely. It's to say fuck yall sides I'm on my own here
I think I like them the most because it's just matter of having common sense, not play sides because it's stupid to do so.
@@MoonkaCakethey play sides sometimes
Also helps that they disagree with each other.
I agree 100%
Winning a debate against Hasan isn't hard. All you need is the capacity for thought. Something even Ethan has.
You just have to ask a follow up question.
Nah its more like Drunken master style.
He usually is 100% wrong but this time hes so drunk hes 100% right.
Winning a debate against a smart guy is hard.
But winning a debate against an idiot is just impossible.
Hassan is unbeatable
Are you sure?
you just have to ask about is opinion and he don't have he just follow what the viewers says
the way ethan turned around to ask "did i say the right place?" was hilarious. every bit of that body language was screaming "has he really not heard about hong kong?"
😂😂😂
I noticed that too, I loled
I feel I've got Aba's temperament and want to see people come around and am glad when it happens. At the same time, Preach is like "Yeah but there's consequences for what you supported before now coming back to you" and I can't really be sorry about it. The easy way to learn is to hear someone out, think about it, and change a little bit. The hard way to learn is through a bit of pain that comes as a direct consequence for your actions. How one will feel about Ethan after this is whether he's learned the lesson: Maybe not everyone who opposes me is my enemy.
Preach is 100% right in this. Ethan is getting a taste of his own medicine. If he wasn’t a turd like this to others, then it’d be a different story.
The point Aba was making is that regardless of who this happens to, it's still wrong. It was wrong when it happened to A&P, and it's wrong that it's happening to Ethan. If you refuse to acknowledge that and just marinate in the "that's karma" sauce, then you're just being petty (which is fine, but it's still petty).
@@jimmyjams962y’all be on Aba sack y’all really be agreeing with anything he says
@@jimmyjams962 thanx for saying exactly what was said in the video as if it wasn’t. I know the difference. I don’t think that’s being petty. I think that’s understanding and respecting karma.
@@jimmyjams962 Totally disagree. I see where Preach is coming from, but I also think it's tough to verbalize it. When you have people like Ethan and Hasan, whether they're play acting or actually believe what comes out of their own mouths, reasonable voices come out and try to point out that you should always foster understanding even in disagreements, instead of fostering "your either with us, or against us" mentality because mob mentality is unreasonable, and they can turn and come for you just as easy.
What's happening to Ethan is not about him getting "just desserts", it's about what reasonable voices have tried to implore upon him, for years, about why its only creating a negative environment. Because it should never be "us against them", "left vs right", nor "capitalist vs socialist" but people trying to find ways to compromise and work together to while having disagreements.
@@jimmyjams962 I think it's wrong and will argue against it every time. I won't say I'm surprised it has happened or not laugh at someone reaping what they sow though. I guess I am where Preach seems to be on this. Yes, it's wrong, but why are you surprised when this is what you push?
Good for Ethan for making Hasan answer the question. However, Ethan is far too late to the party and needs to do a whole lot of cleanup fir the mess he created.
True- if he took this basic critical stance on EVERYTHING. he would have a real podcast.
Hasan is the living embodiment of the meme "Tiananmen Square: At this site in 1989, nothing happened."
I thought someone tried to do insurance fraud to a tank
/s
I like how he swings in his chair when he feels uncomfortable; reminds me of my younger days.
Bing chilin?
Why is it so hard for people to just say: i dont know enough about this subject to have an opinion. Instead they bullshit through it and it makes them look even more stupid
"I should warn you that those who engage in cancel culture generally live to regret it..." "You will be held to higher and higher and soon impossible to maintain ethical standards by the very mob you currently wish to please. Then you will make a mistake, and they will devour you. With glee. Please take this warning seriously. I liked you." - Jordan Peterson to Ethan Klein, just 1 year ago.
Peterson was on right on the money not to mention a lot of people have been saying this but Ethan just doesn’t want to listen
I don't like Peterson but he was 100% right when he said that.
Peterson was pretty based, it's worrying how much he sounds crazier and crazier this year tho, he's going through some shit.
The thing about Cancel Culture is it only works if your customer base are the ones cancelling you, there's a reason why Dave Chapelle's has been cancelled 10 times over but still has sold out shows, it's cause his actual fans weren't the ones cancelling him
@@ne0nmanceryeah he's nitty
Hasan is getting humiliated by a guy who got famous smearing his face in nacho cheese and ranch dressing. Ethan is finally waking up to the BS of breadtubers
I mean a couple years back hasan got embarrassed by twomad as well on twitter who is a very weird character
@@jnightmare0twomad is amazing
@@Frank-li8ujDoesn't mean he isn't batshit insane
@@Frank-li8ujif amazing means unhinged schizoposter then yes
to think those were the good days. I miss old h3h3.
The one time where I had a tiny shred of respect for Ethan. At least he stated his opinion and stood by it, whether good or bad, instead of being a coward or retracting it. Interesting...
The last good thing I remember coming from his mouth was when he was calling people pussies for freaking out over Trump, despite him pining for Hilary. That was 6 years ago
His opinion is stupid & uneducated. He doesn’t know anything besides when he saw on twitter.
Feels like he's realizing how stupid his friends and audience are slowly but surely
Well it’s not really his opinion, these are just known facts. If you agree that the CCP should have hold of Taiwan, and you think everything is alright over there, then you are delusional.
Last good thing that mattered was his stuff with filthy frank
Jordan Peterson told him a couple of years ago now, that this was going to happen. I am glad to see that Ethan is starting to realise and acknowledge this disconnect. I just hope he continues his slow awakening. There is a chance we might get an Ethan Klein redemption arc.
2028. The Daily Wire presents: Ethan Klein.
Had the same thought; JBP saw this coming from a mile away!
oh snap. do you have a link? i cant find it
@@laurendearnley9595not that far
Hassan is a rich kid. Rich kids seek validation in their perceived struggle that they never had. So easy to say give everything because you’ve always had everything. He’s never been to a hood or seen real struggle. He cry’s from his castle trying to relate to the common folk but has zero friends who are normal people
Props to Ethan to address Hassan's opinions rather than avoid controversy
100%
Ethan unironically having an “are we the baddies?” moment is golden.
How are they the baddies? USA is literally a warmongering state
Ethan is not a socialist or a leftist, he’s a Democrat Liberal, they are very different actually. Hasans audience strongly dislikes Ethans liberal Democratic capitalist views. Ethan is not rethinking his political aligning, rather pushing back on the far left.
@@johnnyapplesmithSo in the end we just devour each other no matter what party we claim? It just keeps moving further and further till Democrats basically become Conservative (Republican)? Lol
Politics is a joke, it's like trying to read a persons mind all the time and failing 100% of the time then lying to an audience about it .
@@johnnyapplesmithethan isnt a liberal by any stretch of the imagination.
He is a socialist democrat.
What are the core principals of liberalism?
@@stec3420 who cares
Dan saying businesses are totalitarian just shows how little he knows and thinks. Companies are started off of capital, and if you have to have investors to gain that capital then there you have a board of investors that can make changes. This is how people get thrown out of their own company like Steve Jobs. Yes they own it and get a massive say, but there’s still a board that takes votes on stuff.
I mean having a board of a minority of people who influence the direction of a company usually based of profit generation motives and the the rest of the chain including manufacturers, designers, sales staff and logistics operatives get no say in the direction of the business. Try explain why planned obsolescence and monopolisation in the tech industry and avoid that companies are ran like totalitarian dictatorships.
Ethan saying "...am I saying the right place" because he wanted to give Hassan ALL OF THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT was GOLD
Preach wasn’t petty. He just wasn’t sympathetic to Ethan getting devoured by the audience he created.
Preach was preaching about 'rules for thee, not for me' now that Ethan has faced a similar political-spectrum inquiry he feels is an unfair representation
Ethan only now sees the dangers of being reactionary, tribalist, and making enemies out of potential allies who believe a lot of the same things-- yet on one issue you may have a disagreement. I have several friends who I disagree with but enjoy debating, we don't have to demonize 'them' out to destroy 'us' using cancel-laden-labels like 'homophobe', 'misogynist', 'groomer' (unless actually a groomer, but plz stop throwing that word around unless it's a serious accusation) the second we don't think exactly alike.
Now, his audience who have been trained to be reactionary and are more socialist-leaning than Ethan seems to be, will do what they will do-- is what Preach is saying here.
“My opinion is that Taiwan is the Chinese concept of Taiwan” *ad plays* LMAO
That's the challenge with some RUclips creators and any hivemind fan community. When you rely on a united fanbase, you'll face backlash if your views diverge from the collective opinion of your followers. Many content creators, particularly on RUclips, depend on their fanbase for income and find themselves constrained by the need to align with their audience's beliefs. The same dynamic can apply to political circles, where individuals may feel pressured to either fully agree with everything or completely disagree based on political party.
his first mistake was getting into online politics. no matter what you say or do you will trigger the most chronically online people ever over the smallest of things/disagreements
People that make Politics their whole personality are one of the most annoying people out there yes
That's pretty much _almost_ everything, nowadays... and not just online.
"Chronically online people" is just an excuse not to admit there has plenty of sh*tty people who behave and think this way offline.
based
@@ptolemeeselenion1542 While I don't necessarily disagree with your point, I do believe it's way more condensed on the internet due to echo chambers and the way it breeds and encourages performativity and virtue signalling.
@@shuttttt It indeed magnifies/condenses it. But it has to magnify/condensate raw pre-existing matter, first.
As someone who used to live in China and frequently visited HK…I see HK people are suffering.
People are suffering everywhere. Look at the hot mess North America is in.
seriously? @@susiex6669
@@susiex6669 If you think that is suffering, then you have lived a privileged life.
@@susiex6669 That's not even close lmfao. The audacity of this comparison 🤣
@@shuttttt Tell me where in China you see the apocalyptic zombie streets of Philadelphia, San Fransisco and Vancouver full of lost youth addicted to opioids, dying each day? Those dealers would be unalived in China. Thats privilege to you? Western societies are crumbling to the ground, the East is rising but bozos like you still think you have the upper hand. 🙄🙄
"You can go anywhere in China", try to be a tourist and move freely in xinjiang. If it looks like you're snooping around you will be "helped to the right path" quickly.
thats literally a lie lmao. At least try to be creative when you blatantly just tell lies like that lmao
@@thechuube8442 thats so funny you would say that, when you can literally use your brain and just look it up. Just last year when the camps for "reeducation" they had were still running, you could only film in xinjiang with a strict plan. How do you claim i lie without proof? Are you chinese?
He’s going through his Destiny arc. He’s just now realizing it’s a shit flinging contest and ideological games on both extremes
Nah he's always been aware of it. He's just always thought that when the left did it it was "justified".
It blows my mind how people don’t believe the horse shoe theory is real.
@@Zhtrik
The what?
@@gilgameshkingofheroes5903 The Horse Shoe theory, you go far enough left or right, eventually you’ll end up at the same conclusion for different reasons. I’ll give you an example.
“We need to ban Video Games, they’re immoral and corrupting the youth,” Probably the Right
“We need to ban video Games, they objectify women and are sexist,” -Probably the Left
Destiny is not some ideal people should be exemplifying. He fails on foreign policy and economics, which is why he shifted to debating red pill bros. Ethan would never dare to shift to Destiny’s fan base, a bunch of brain rot redditors. Ethan has businesses to run and clothes to sell.
Hasan has gotta have some kind of ties to china the way he absolutely will not say anything controversial from a Chinese perspective. That’s always stood out to me so I’m glad he kind of got caught up in it this time
Not necessarily. It's just that he LARPS at being a communist and they make up a very large portion of his audience. You can see it by how Ethan is having his audience chew him out for the take against China. Hassan's audience is even worse than Ethan's audience in that aspect.
Definitely. I wish this was brought up by Ethan cause I would love to see Hasan crumble in real time
He just has many tankies in his fanbase who would either devour him or just stop watching him alltogether. He is afraid of angering his fans.
Uhumm
Hassan is truly an epic caricature. He calls himself a Marxists, while living in a mansion up on the hills of Los Angeles. Brags about "workers solidarity," meanwhile --- he hasn't worked a day in his life.
He's just a capitalist
@@TurtleChad1I mean the higher ups of The USSR weren't sleeping under a commonner's roof, so it's on brand.
The vast majority of his followers are just young women simping for him and his good looks.
Ngl, this is a bit of a strawman. I'm not a true Socialist, as I am a Social Democrat, but Socialism isn't a poverty cult, or a "simple living" cult. It's more or less advocating workers should "own the means of production"; but it's not saying "people shouldn't live in big houses", or have "no possessions". At least that what the theory is, but I will admit that there are cringe online "socialist" who will make Socialism seem like it means that everyone should live a poor or simple life.
@@therambler3713no, cause once he opens his mouth his looks become irrelevant.
2:50 What's wrong with just saying "I Don't Know" nowadays 😂😂😂
Oh my goodness, thank you!
You're not always gonna have the answer on the spot, and that is fine.
Just say, "That is a good question, I don't have the answer for it now. But I will respond when I do."
The fact he loves China so much is horrifying to me.
The CCP is probably paying him under the table
He's a paid shill
Terrifying actually
He doesn't love China. He just doesn't take the American sentiment into his critique
Huh what's the problem if he loves china
I'm with Preach on this one. Why empathise soo much with someone who lacks it for anyone "on the other side"? This is literally the "shocking" consequences of his own actions.
Exactly. It's Aba picking and choosing when he wants to be understanding because most of the time he will rub it in. Preach is saying this is your utopia you created so live with it. I agree with Preach.
I didn't think he was being petty. I thought he was not feeling sympathy for someone who helped create this monster. I'm with Preach on this
Agreeing with Preach on this too: Reap what you sow Ethan.
I do understand that he's responsible of his own demise therefore we shouldn't feel soory for him but empathy isn't something that you can fully control.
Aba has his own reason to not be petty on this.
But hey let's just hope that Ethan learned this lesson and will never do this to anyone else now that he know what it feels.
@@hjmp6236 That's fine. But it's the choice of words. It's unfair to call someone petty for stating facts. Preach wasn't being petty. He just had no sympathy.
The world has finally started to heal: Fresh&Fit got demonetized, Sneako and H3H3 both realized how crazy their fanbase is. What's next?
Sneako knows what he built. Only after the backlash is he distancing himself.
Sneako and H3 are grifters of the highest order. They're not motivated by self-growth, but fear of a monster they created but can't control anymore.
Not you guys comparing socialists to kids saying "all gays should die"... huh?
Honestly Ethan has been pretty based lately. Him hitting back on Hasan and his producer Dan for their stupid takes is good to see.
Ethan realizing his annoying ultra left progressive audience he’s cultivated went against him irrationally is SOOOOOO funny😂
He’s stuck in that audience capture loop and he doesn’t like it!! 😂
I don't feel bad for Ethan at all. He knew what he was getting himself into.
@@TurtleChad1be quiet, bot
Audience capture loop...you put it very well, my friend.
@@tonybablony2041Hasan's alt 😂
@@TurtleChad1bruh you’re a bot😭
Damn so Jordan Peterson was right. He said this would happen to Ethan after Ethan went after him
He told him. Be careful with who you decide to be bed fellows with. And here we are.
He usually is
This is overblown. He’s not getting cancelled ppl just love to hate on Ethan
Remember Folks, Ethan wanted Hasan’s audience. He wanted to move away from edgy humor to be a wannabe breadtuber, so he stopped being funny and started stroking off Hasan’s ego. He’s made his bed, now he has to sleep in it.
"stopped being funny" bro i been waiting for him to start!
Ethan was never funny. His call to fame was a 30 second shitpost with an editing style he ripped from others.
Nah, Ethan’s been doing this before he linked with Hasan, but his relationship with Hasan exacerbated it.
We shouldn't feel sorry. He knew what he was getting into.
Young Ethan had edginess/creativity/drive.
Old man Ethan is a relic of his former self. He used to chill so well with Post Malone, but then Ethan got "comfortable", as they say. He became a tool. An edge to a blade that lost its sharp long ago. I'm even surprised the guy stayed relevant for this long...
Its funny how often Ethan forgets that his old audience is gone and that he can no longer express any "based" opinions.
Aba is trying to keep his ego out of it a Preach is letting the emotions fly and i appreciate you both when it happens.
Duality is life LOL
*_"If you love China so much, why don't you marry it?"_*
Very rare Ethan W.
Not surprised about chenk's nephew opinion on Taiwan.
Taiwan will end up like Ukraine just give it time.
@@TurtleChad1 I truly hope not. Unlike the Ukranians, the Taiwanese are not nazis, criminals or extremely corrupt, they even had really good policies in regards to drug dealers! I really hope they get out of this shit...
@@TurtleChad1Actually it would be worse then Ukraine, because Russia and Ukraine share a border it’s easier to invade/repel. China would have to do an amphibious assault, and that would probably lead to at least 6 digit casualties. Especially if Japan, Vietnam, Philippines and the Korea’s get involved.
Halfway through his opinion I was thinking “ain’t nobody got time for this”
"Chenk's nephew" i see your a man of culture🤭
Congratulations on reaching 2 millions followers. You guys have been one of my favorite channels for a long time.
Everyone is roasting on Ethan, but I'll give credit for someone going down a rabbit hole and being aware enough to pull himself out. Yes Ethan said silly things in the past, but lately he has been saying things I see are more correct. Respect.
I wouldn't say silly, I would say downright stupid, dangerous and illegal, but I agree. I hope one day old h3h3 will come back.
@@m.dave2141 This. Ethan did damage. If he's not going to make any effort to undo that damage, I don't care that he feels ostracized by the people he chose over his own audience.
People who depend there whole life on political wokeness are genuinely some of the most mentally timid people in the world
Is woke still defined as believing there are systemic issues that we should do something about?
@@Gobackto4channobody ever defined it like that. Even staunch conservatives agree with this very simple premise.
@@bbbbbbb51 Weird i tried posting two links but don’t see them.
Ron DeSantis defined it exactly that way when forced to by a court.
Fox has an article if you search “desantis lawyer definition of woke”
@@Gobackto4chanprove it. Prove the white supremacist illuminati is why cities Compton and chicago are such shitholes.
@@Gobackto4chan short answer: woke means culturally communist. Btw the term “cultural Marxist” was started by the Frankfurt schools (communist) not by the chuds who are hiding under your bed.
“You will be held to higher and higher and soon impossible to maintain ethical standards by the very mob you currently wish to please. Then you will make a mistake, and they will devour you.
With glee. Please take this warning seriously. I liked you.”
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Jordan Peterson to Ethan when Ethan “disavowed” Jordan.
Do you know where Jordan Peterson said this? I'd like to watch it.
@@SkyinatorHe tweeted it to Ethan after Ethan took down his podcasts with Jordan.
I wish JP would stick to talking about people. It's clearly his speciality and when he's most insightful both with cautions and compliments. It's when he gets to other topics that I think it'd be best if he just stayed quiet. He has a lot of interpersonal wisdom.
@@bbbbbbb51Agreed. Peterson is at his best when he stays in his lane.
@@dancemeanumber6569 thank you.
I feel both of their closing arguments. Preach is 100% "you reap what you sow" and Aba is "this is what we've been saying all along. I hope you learn and grow from this". They playing good cop/ bad cop 😂
I remember Jordan Peterson warning Ethan that this would happen to him if he chose this path. I do not wish this on people but he made his own bed and he tried to ruin a lot of people's lives for minimal stuff so it somehow feels good to watch it fall back on him.
Jordan is so smart. He's basically a prophet when it comes to sociology and psychology.
"You just got Klein'd!" "You got Klein'd by your own people my guy!"
😂😝
Listening to Hasan is like that time you're mother wakes you up from a deep sleep only to find out you just agreed to plow the snow out of your neighbors yard on a Sunday
bro got this take from one edited clip.
your*
It’s kinda incredible that people live in the country with Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and Philippines and still cant wrap their minds around this concept
That's comedic gold right there. The irony of these "moral authorities" eating each other is priceless. xD
theres a reason why cannibalism exists on the left, the food runs out, and all thats left is that ally next to you, who is tonights dinner...
Too many people (Hasan and Ethan are perfect examples) care far more about what political persuasion they are and categorising themselves than talking sense.
Ethan spoke well in this conversation, I Can't say the same about Hasan or Ethan's producer Dan.. Those two guys are lost in the sauce with their socialism pipe dream.
Ethan Klein once again realising he's cultivated an audience that'll eat him alive the moment he disagrees. Him and Hasan are in a pool of sharks and Hasan's trying not to make them mad, but Ethan keeps bouncing off the walls and jumping in front of the sharks' friggin laser beams.
Lets be real here, EVERY prominent content creator has an audience that will turn on them for any perceived split in ideology. This is hardly some Ethan-specific L dude.
@@nope5657 I doubt it. Most people aren't ideologically bent or politically active. Creators attract and repel certain types of people based on their content - Instagram girls attract horny dudes, gamers attract fellow gamers, and Hasan and Ethan attract angry mobs of Socialist pirhanas who go into a frenzy the moment a "not left enough" opinion hits the water.
lets be honest though, most of these people are most likely hasan transfer fans
@@nope5657
Not really, some people cultivate rational audiences. Those where they are a few crazies sure, but if the content creators reason for disagreement is logical or at least sincere they wouldn't care and just consider it business as usual.
However, being an asshole or hypocrite to your audience is a whole different ballgame than disagreeing.
As for Ethan Specific Ls, well, he just found out a lot of his audience hates Israel and wants Hamas to level it to the ground (I'm not exaggeration or picking a side, just saying what they where saying).
Ethan had the biggest shock of his life realising he cultivated an Antisemitic audience,...... while being Jewish, with an Israeli wife.
Nice
Ethan is one of those unique people who is clearly blatantly cartoonishly evil sometimes, but he keeps trying to point at other people and say "YOU'RE CRAZY, YOU'RE SUCH A BAD GUY, YOU'RE EVIL" like- I don't think this man has ever looked in a mirror before...
I rarely if any have respect for Ethan because he's a troll in ALOT of cases, but him showing confidence in his position here really shows potential. It's also bringing me sadistic joy to watch political fellows eat each other alive. It's like going to church and church goers fighting in the parking lot because someone doesn't love god enough.
What Aba said about just not wanting to disappear is so relatable to me. I grew up with a lot of bitter Hawaiians about the overthrow of Hawaiʻi and want to become independent again. But in todays climate, we would be razed to the ground over territory for any of the worlds powers. All of which the general public cant really wrap their head around the concept
Ethan keeps learning this lesson over and over and over again, and it never actually takes....
Ethan used to be this based. Glad he's setting to return to being based if only a little.
My favorite description of Ethan recently was someone calling him the drunken master
Isn't amazing how all these American socialists, don't move to socialist countries. They love the idea as long as they have the freedoms they have here. Aren't willing to give those up to go live their dream.
They're dumb, but you still have freedom in China, you can't insult the president or put propaganda, but that's not what freedom is about. Anyhow, Hasan shouldn't be taken seriously when talking about politics.
I haven't seen an American "socialist" who isn't just a cosplaying liberal. It's super weird to watch these clowns calling themselves words they don't even understand
@@sheezle3exactly 😂
so funny americans still think they have better freedom than other countries😂 little do they know….😅
Venezuela IPhone Human Nature Basic Economics Stalin Mao 100 billion killed antifa starving animal farm
The amount of mental gymnastics the hasan does when he is explaining something or saying something mind-boggling like I have a better shot of figuring out the the five unsolved math problems then I do with hasan with his logic and explanations
Last brain cell putting in over time
He tries too hard to sound smart rather than just coming out and saying what he’s thinking
@@HypocritesExposdhe loves word salad and it's a sign someone is too far up their own ass.
I've watched a good portion of that VOD and I've gotta say I'm quite surprised Ethan was actually questioning Hasan's position on China. I don't like him, but you've gotta give him that.
Watching Hasan squirm was quite satisfying.
He does that to Hasan pretty often and it is genuinely funny. Makes Hasan look like a moron.
China is the future for human progress. Keep crying and coping.
Remember when Ethan rejected Jordan Peterson and took down his interview with him because he was afraid of getting cancelled, and Jordan aptly said “they’ll come for you too”. They’re here for you Ethan, get out while you still can.
People as ideologically extreme as Ethan, really don't see the irony in their behavior when stuff like this happens to them. And Hasan trying really hard to dance around coming out as an all out shill for the CCP, was pure gold 🤣
It's so damn annoying. Then they threw Ethan to the wolves the following day
I agree that his audience shouldn't behave like that, but I still think he got what he deserved. He made this monster of an audience and monetized it, now it turned on him. He made his bed, and now he has to lie in it.
"You are your own worst enemy."
Ethan is reaping what he sowed.
Ethan: *Makes a valid argument against Hasan’s opinion*
Hasan: “i’M lItTeRaLlY sHaKiNg”
judge "he killed someone"
Lawyer: "cant lock him up that's petty"
When you make Ethan Klein look based there's no hope left for you.
I just hope he learns from this and treats other people better now and doesn’t goes to call them shit
"you can go to Hong Kong"
If you're somebody on China's radar and you talk about what happened in Hong Kong/about independent Taiwan then you cannot "go to Hong Kong", you will be stopped and bared from entry.
Yeah I'm with Preach on this one. Some people aren't persuaded by rational discourse (whether or not the position is correct), only the consequences of their actions. The only way Ethan will grow is to go through the ringer. We wish him well, but he deserves this. We'd be doing him a disservice by shielding him from the monster he created.