It'd be interesting to hear the two different music stems - John Powell's original music, plus the Paul Oakenfold track that was used in the film to replace it!
Interesting how the final mix took the "non-dialogue" parts (such as the breaths) of the dialogue track way way down in the end, but there there recorded at the time (or so I assume/guess), and even stayed in to the dialogue track stage.
Definitely sounds like ADR breaths since they're so clean. You can't forget breaths and breathing! Especially in quieter scenes(not like this one). It really helps the film feel alive.
I'm not a profesional more of a hobbyist. I noticed some overlap between what's considered "foley" and the "sweeteners." From the video alone I think I can tell the distinction, but is there a paper or book that more clearly delineates the two?
I think in the context of this Bourne video sweetener means miscellaneous sound FX or scene sweeteners. Kind of an arbitrary name. I did notice though that there are footsteps for the police on the Foley AND the sweetener track. I'm not sure why that's the case honestly... BTW, thanks for your interest!
Hard to say! Sometimes I've found the labels to be arbitrary. I imagine some of these groupings were logical at the time when they were bouncing the stems/categories/food groups they had to slap a description on it that didn't always make 100% sense.
A sweetener is any sound added to another sound to make it sound better or make it pop- It "sweetens" the sound. In my opinion, the term sweetener in the context of this Bourne video means "miscellaneous" sound FX. They're more like scene sweeteners.
Interesting... so vehicle sweetners can also be foley? (but of course not all foley are vehicle sweetners!) But also some vehicle sweetners are not foley. (edit: oh wait... never mind, as I was thinking of the seat-belt, but when I listen to it again I hear that they're very different sounds indeed but then added together for the final mix)
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Nice choice of thumbnail 😂
Haha I couldn't resist the Matt and Trey reference 😉
It'd be interesting to hear the two different music stems - John Powell's original music, plus the Paul Oakenfold track that was used in the film to replace it!
Sound designer here and i'm learning SOOO much, how the eff are you getting these multitracks ?
Please keep going
All sources listed in video description! Thanks for your interest and I'm glad you liked the video!
Hey just wanted to say thanks and I appreciate your channel
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These videos are invaluable...thank you!
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I’m finding all these videos fascinating :-) Brilliant work :-)
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Wow, super fascinating!
Interesting how the final mix took the "non-dialogue" parts (such as the breaths) of the dialogue track way way down in the end, but there there recorded at the time (or so I assume/guess), and even stayed in to the dialogue track stage.
Definitely sounds like ADR breaths since they're so clean. You can't forget breaths and breathing! Especially in quieter scenes(not like this one). It really helps the film feel alive.
Curious, was there sound for the rain and Windshield wipers? It's fantastic to see how the sound was layered in these videos.
I'm not a profesional more of a hobbyist. I noticed some overlap between what's considered "foley" and the "sweeteners." From the video alone I think I can tell the distinction, but is there a paper or book that more clearly delineates the two?
I think in the context of this Bourne video sweetener means miscellaneous sound FX or scene sweeteners. Kind of an arbitrary name. I did notice though that there are footsteps for the police on the Foley AND the sweetener track. I'm not sure why that's the case honestly... BTW, thanks for your interest!
Maybe foley only refers to what was specifically recorded on a foley stage??
And the other sounds (such as the sweetners) came from other sources.
Hard to say! Sometimes I've found the labels to be arbitrary. I imagine some of these groupings were logical at the time when they were bouncing the stems/categories/food groups they had to slap a description on it that didn't always make 100% sense.
Love this channel!
What does sweetener in sound design means?
Thank you!
A sweetener is any sound added to another sound to make it sound better or make it pop- It "sweetens" the sound. In my opinion, the term sweetener in the context of this Bourne video means "miscellaneous" sound FX. They're more like scene sweeteners.
Like candy for ear! Thanks again!
Haha exactly! You're welcome!
great breakdown, I do miss the wipers however of the cars. It could add some down to earth feeling to the scene.
Just wondering, how are you able to edit clips to where only sounds like the sweeteners or sirens are audible?
Interesting... so vehicle sweetners can also be foley? (but of course not all foley are vehicle sweetners!) But also some vehicle sweetners are not foley.
(edit: oh wait... never mind, as I was thinking of the seat-belt, but when I listen to it again I hear that they're very different sounds indeed but then added together for the final mix)
The perfect example of a sweetener!
Hehe the Team america MATT DAMON puppet in the thumbnail
The music just spoiled everything in my opinion