Cops receive description of a white man in his 30s wearing a dark green/grey jacket and an orange hat. They go question a 60-year-old black man wearing an orange jacket and black hat. Shortly before questioning him, one of the cops says in the recording that he "doesn't even look anything like him" (referring to the description of the actual suspect). 3:23 All of that, plain as day from both this video and from the police's internal investigation, and yet there are still people in these comments claiming the police did nothing wrong. And people wonder why we say there's a systemic issue...
The police was just as wrong. Once they enter the store they should go to the Lost Prevetion office before making contact with the shoplifters. They run the streets and public, when they step in the store, they have to abide by store companies policing. The store is responsible liable for what happens to the shoplifters. The store is the one who will be sued. Once the police speaks with Lost Prevention or a member of management they can take over the case. The store tells police officers if they want to press charges or if they want to banned the shoplifters. Banding means the shoplifters are not to go on any property of the store even if they're out of the states. We used API, a computer base report that's Shared company wide. Which is one of the first things you look at to see if they have previous been caught shopping lifting.
I don’t, I understand what I’m the hell these people are worth to society… these 2 mean deserve to be jailed and stripped of their badges and laughed at publicly, racist pigs
@@earvetta Do you really believe the store is responsible for the action of rouge police officer??? You really believe that the cops are under the "store law" and must follow their policies?
@@sittingindetroit9204 I as a Asset Protection Coordinator worked for 18 years whenever law enforcement was called to any of my stores whether it was disturbing operation oi f business or shoplifters small children being left on the stor if someone is purchasing the ingredients to make crack ect. The decision has always been left up the what the store polices are. Give you a couple of examples. If a homeless person came only stole some ready cooked food, would you have them arrested. A child put a pack of gum in thdir pocket. A customer come in the automotive business entirely open a bottle coil pour some of it on the floor lay down in it, wants to file a accident claim you get a call you look at the video see what that customer did. You have called the none emergency phone number to have a police officer to come to the store tell the operator what location for the officers to come so they won't go to the AP office. You Go out to speak with the customer with a accident floder get their information. Ask if they're alright listening to them tell you what happened ask them if they want to file a accident report. You have a associate to to stay and watch the customer you don't want to leave a customer who just had a slip and fall in the store to be left alone that may pass out. Once the officers come to your location you tell them what you got got going on that you've viewed the video what the customer did.. The customer doesn't know that you're speaking to police officers. They ask what you like to do. You already have your banned paperwork done. Go back to the location where the customer is the officers With the police telling the customer exactly what you viewed on video ask them if they still want to file a accident report. You do inform them that you're Bannding them from the stores. Reading the paper work to them. Ask their I'd have them to sign it. The police are going to ask if you want to have each of these of the people in these examples arrest. You make a decision based on company policy. Yes each one could be arrested. If you look at cost of each of these examples would it be cost affected for you to have to go to court for their hearings?. In order Banned to be put on a customer it has to be on record at the police you station called the police give a copy of the APIS report. Those are just few of the the things when a officer arrive at any of my stores. They will ask you want you would like to do. Which you go by company policies. Anything that's taken out of the store that is not paid for by law it's shoppingliting regardlessof the amount. Another thing is establishment communication with the police, by going by the station to introduce yourself. Business are private property. So yes law enforcement will listen and let you on behalf of the store make the decisions
@@earvetta None of that explains why it is the stores fault that the police went after someone that did not fit the description they were provided....was it a store employee that pointed at the innocent guy and said.....get him.....
I have a Meijers store where I live. Today I witnessed the worst racial profiling I’ve ever seen in my life. A white female door greeter stopping 3 black couples in a row to check their receipt and cart. I immediately demanded customer service get me the manager. In all that time, not once did she stop white people. Those were the only black people I saw leave thru those doors. I chewed out the manager, filed complaints with their corporate office, waiting to hear from them right now, and tomorrow I will be boycotting outside their store. I’m a 60 year old white man and I have never seen such blatant racism in my life. I was shocked, disgusted and emotionally upset.
@@ladybug6117 I agree to an extent. The store was actively on the phone with police reporting the location of the real suspect. The manager stood there and didn't correct the officers.
Exactly, if a cop mistakenly questions anyone they should sue. I've been wrongfully questioned by cops and I was embarrassed, I want 10 trillion at least.
I commend this gentleman for continuing to press the point because obviously the people involved didn't know the seriousness of what they did and especially to a black man. Because of the attitudes and blatant disrespect and murders the police have perpetrated on men of colour, it is not unusual for them to be scared for their life anytime an officer is nearby. You'll notice he knew exactly that the police arrived before he did and even probably prepared to say that if he was illegally detained / profiled.
@@WHEREVER-I-ROAM some people in every city in every country in the world are trouble makers. You don't have to see that though. You are safe because you have your head up your ass.
My son was 17 at the time and he is 6'4 and he was with two black kids Ben and Isaiah, and two white boys. He was friends with these boys for 9 years!! Very good kids!! There was a robbery at a gas station a block from our house, and my son had gone to his friends house 3 blocks away where his other 3 friends were hanging out! as well. The police spotted my son who was wearing a black hooded sweatshirt jacket walking with his friends back to our house, when the cops showed up, pointed guns at these 5 boys because they thought my son was the one that burglarized the gas station!!!! The worker of the place had told the cops that the person was chunky & short!! My son is skinny and 6'4!!! What the hell is wrong with people!!! You know who you are looking for and turn it on a bunch of innocent boys!!! This mom was PISSED OFF and told the chief of police I was going to sue the living hell out them for pointing guns at 5 innocent boys because of what my son was wearing!! It makes me sick!!
Make sure you make a formal complaint. Too many times this happens and POC don't m File a complaint. At least for the PD I worked for this was the case and am sure it is the same for other jurisdictions.
Well Mel, that is very unfortunate & I’m sure it has scared your son as well as the other children. The good thing for you & your son is you can sue & you will be taken seriously & you will probably receive a settlement or compensation for the mishap with your son. The sad thing is that black individuals are often dismissed & told it happens like the officer initially said to the innocent man. Our cases or complaints fall on deaf ears & we cope until it happens again
Lo hacen xq son racistas y piensan q tu hijo es un pedaso de mierda,tiene suerte q no Telo mataron,imgainaye todo loq ha sucedido x tantos años sin cámaras para grabarlos,en la frontera los hemos visto matar niños!!! Suerte amigo así está este mundo racista y clasista!!
Well, that’s because that’s the name they made for themselves! So my suggestion is don’t let your white kids hang out w black kids or this is what u get!
Part of what is angering the gentleman is the fact that the officers were not making inquiries but affirmative accusations. The store “positively identified” as the thief yet he arrived after the officers. Even the officers weren’t sure but acted with certainty like he was guilty. The gentleman was faced with what, he knew were lies, from the beginning of the interaction. People that lie about you are trying to harm you.
I recall hearing stories about the old west... when someone called you a liar you could shoot that fuck dead in his heart AND be justified in court, because that was the worst thing you could call an honest man, and yet today cops with their itchy trigger fingers walk around calling everyone liars.
It wasn't an inconvenience, it was a humiliation! I imagine this man isn't mad because you took a few seconds out of his day. I imagine that this isn't the first time he has had to deal with something like this, and for the officer to tell him that it's not a big deal and that he is free to issue a complaint and being dismissive of how this made him feel is extremely aggravating.
My opinion - The officers made a mistake BUT America is full of entitled people like that guy JUST SHOW THEM THAT YOU HAVENT TAKEN ANYTHING AND ITS OVER. THATS IT INSTEAD OF LECTURING THEM JUST PROVE IT!!! Oh America 🤦♂️🤷
@@nathanvarghese. They did not make a mistake. They profiled the black 60 year old man. When they were looking for a 30 year old white man. Clothing did not match the description. Don't allow your rights to be violated.
@@nathanvarghese. In America you don't have to prove innocence they have to prove guilt. You don't have to assist them gathering evidence against you. "No not me, No I didn't do it, F*** off and demand 1st 4th 5th 14th amendments wont talk till lawyer present" see you in court twice once for my innocence and once for my civil case have a nice day LOL
Last year white cops murdered a 17 year old unarmed white kid foreal y'all they didn't put it in the world news only the local news they usually only put the black deaths on the news because the illuminati want blaks and whites fighting each other so we can't come together the real enemy is the illuminati not the police but most Police so crazy u can't tell them nothing stupid cops. police and people supposed to b working together but the illuminati has a racism agenda they pushing it's deep.
First thing, "Excuse me sir, have you seen a man wearing a tan jacket?". Then when he says no, move on. You need to do some investigation before you stop anyone. This was not an honest mistake. Everyone needs to get it through their heads that every person of any race is a human being and deserves to be treated with dignity. This man was humiliated by the police, and I would be pissed off too. I get that there was an actual shoplifter involved, but you damn well better be able to differentiate between orange and tan. They are not even close to the same color.
@@wiolettapagowski5590 yeah anytime I try to understand instances of racism, I have to remind myself there is no logic in racism and therefore no way to understand it
That's why they do a thing called investigate and talk to him to stop sure that guy was an idiot he could have just waited and talked to them so they were sure he wanted to start and fight and yell so he seems like he's so brave for yelling at a cop
@@idkwhattoput777 they were called for a white individual with totally different of clothes. There's no way they mistook him for the guilty party. Even as they were talking to him the store through the intercom was telling them where the subject was. He had every right to get annoyed
“Take your hands out of your pockets”…..that is NOT a lawful order until someone has been detained. They never said that he was being detained. I’m so sick of them treating everyone like a criminal. I’ve seen them do this to people that record them. I’ve seen them do it to people that question them, or back-talk them. I know they say it’s for officer safety, but from what I’ve seen, it’s just something they say when they are power-tripping.
@@ryans9029 Actually true at all times. What is the criminal code for putting your hands in your pockets? There isn’t one because it’s not a crime to put your hands in your pocket.
@@davecarsley8773 That went right over your head. I didn’t suggest anyone not do it. My point is that cops are drunk on their perceived authority and usually say it for their ego’s sake. Not their safety. So many cops on here trying to give advice on how to just bend over and take it. Eat their shit with a knife and fork and nobody gets hurt. I’ve heard it all before. It thanks for the advice.
This is crazy. What kind of system do they have for the dispatcher to be directing the cops who the shoplifter is instead of talking directly to the store manager or assistant manager. I understand that these stores are very large and you can lose the shoplifter, but this store needs in store loss prevention.
probably had black man in loss prevention too, almost guarantee ti, it doesn't matter if the store manager is black or loss prevention the black man will always play the race card and try to get money.
They need an entirely new loss prevention team. That bright Orange hat should’ve been one of the main parts of the description and they dropped the ball BAD
I feel so bad for that man. Also the way he was kind of dismissed by the officers when they realized. How did the officers mess up so badly?! I really think they profiled him, thinking they could catch him as well. Horrible how our society is.
Cop lied with a straight face saying they didn't know what the person was wearing or race. Ok if that was the case why didn't you stop all of the wht people you came across? The funny thing was the store Mgr was trying to cover for the cops, he was putting his own LP person under the bus knowing they give out the right description. The brother cop went to the right person with no problem. No the cop wasn't nasty way he approached the gentleman but you would have to be blk to understand why he was upset.
@@nathanvarghese. consider watching the entire video played at trial you can cleary hear dispatch describe the person they were supposed to look for,yes he lied straight to that mans face, he knew exactly what he was doing
Race or no race....no one likes to be accused of something that they didn't do, especially in front of other people....the man in the orange jacket was humiliated in front of other shoppers and it pissed him off and I don't blame him one damn bit......assuming makes an idiot of this officer.
And please miss me/us with the race or no race BS. The only thing those men had in common was the COLOR orange. Their prejudices drove their actions. There's no way the both of them heard or told the other orange hat and they both heard orange coat/jacket.
@@P3P33U Orange hat is different from jacket. They heard the race. This training officer was training the other officer to learn how to harass. I used to work for a PD and this is too commonly done.
@@mrjaybee73 You have no idea how many times it happens to white people too. In highschool two friends & I were mistaken for stealing a class graduation ring. My principle didn't believe us, held us for hours while unappropriately searching us individually several times. They eventually found the kid who stole, a hispanic kid in a gang. None of us ever received any apologies from our school board or principles. This is one of many examples.
I've been questioned by police but I was never made to feel it was because of my skin color 😥had I known I would walk around with a chip on my shoulder and throw a tantrum everytime I deal with police in the hopes that I could sue.
@@johnames6430 this guy was minding his business shopping, doing nothing wrong, you people create and place those chips on shoulders y’all love talking about
"You know how stupid you guys look? I love how this man refused to back down. He knew these cops had no reason to approach him and he wasn't about to meekly put up with being unreasonably profiled.
The first word from the published dispatch call was "Caucasian"....Apparently the "training officer" couldn't process that as he contacted the African-American gentleman...who was well within his rights to be upset....
@@thetruepatriot7733 Cop number one omitted the fact that the dispatch call DID advise the color of the suspect...then went on to describe the clothing...It wasn't the loss prevention guy...it was this cop diverting from the dispatch call...
@@4catsnow yes.. I agree the cop was told the suspect was white but he subconsciously thought the suspect was black... BECAUSE most shoplifters are B**ck. If most of the criminals you encounter are B**ck, it makes sense that you would assume the suspect is B**ck!! All stereotypes are routed in reality! Its subconscious thinking...
Because concealing merchandise clearly demonstrates your intention not to pay for it. You've got 20 items in a shopping cart and five items in your jacket you don't plan on paying the for the five items in your jacket. If you did they would be in your cart.
Amazing how the police hear the description of the guy, and totally ignore it. I mean, come on - a white man doesn't look like a black man. Clothes are totally different. And the reason they SAY they went after this guy - he was "mirroring" them. In other words, he looked at the police officer. Yeah, something tells me this guy saw the cops and though, "Uh oh, bet these cops are going to go after me because I'm black" - and he was right!!! I saw a news report where a police officer tried to say, "Well, people sometimes change their clothes" - I've never seen someone change the color of their skin!
For real, questioning a black man should automatically give him 10 Trillion if he ends up not being the suspect. Personally I think we should just tell officers to let black people do whatever they want, just let them commit crimes and don't bother to question them because that would be racist.
The only way that this had been even more absurd is if the suspect was a white woman. The young cop didn't even have the decency to admit that the description given by dispatch included the fact that the suspect was white. He even said that "they were going by the clothing description" is a bald faced lie unless they are unable to tell the difference between kaki and orange. Not to mention that the poor guy came in BEHIND the cops... Man, this could not be more obvious profiling, yet I guarantee there will be some that deny it.
I hope he files complaints against the officers and the store. So much incompetence. The police straight up lie to this man (we all know why they approached him), the store manager stands by and lets them harass this innocent man, and the asset protection employee for not providing a decent description. The officers apologize over and over, yet they will do the same thing on the next call. 100% racial profiling. So frustrating!
I am 5 foot 5 and 125 lbs. I have been mistaken for a 5 foot, 300 lb dark skin female, and a 6 foot 4, dark skin, 165 lb male. One in Ohio, one in Michigan. I feel his pain.
The tone of the cop was unprofessional. He should not refer to people as "Boss".... it is condescending. "Come here and talk to me. What a jackwagon. His tone changed real fast when he was on the defensive..... didnt it? When will this ever end? When will the cops get it... that they work for the public? They like to single people out who they think cant defend themselves.... then they run into this guy... and it doesnt work out so well. Well done. As angry as he was.... I was even angrier watching it.
"You know how stupid you guys look?" This innocent man had every right to be royally pissed and I'm glad he didn't hold back on these clowns in uniform. If the citizens of Westchester are satisfied with this level of incompetent, racist policing then they deserve to pay for what this pathetic police department will cost them.
They should’ve told the caller they can’t do nothing until the shoplifter is apprehended. Normally they get stopped when leaving the store with stolen merchandise. Both the officers and the managers were in the wrong in their own ways.
That guy had every right to be pissed at those cops, I hope he dose file a complaint and even talk to a lawyer about suing the cops and the store. That was total bullshit. The other guy didn't even look anything like each other.
I watch a lot of videos that are cringey on purpose like old '80s horror movies we used to watch. That being said I've never cringed so hard in my life. This man is a superhero and I'm proud of how he kept this cool 60 years in this game I guess he's got it down.
That's just pathetic they walk in having the description of the person but the first black man they see that's does not fit the narrative they approach him but doesn't bother to look for the real suspect that is just a COPout they're not doing that job they're just doing whatever they want too!
The disclaimer even allows for officers making mistakes with impunity. Imagine being stopped by police as a white guy, and the description was of a black guy. This black guy isn’t even light skinned. He’s darker skinned. Those cops had confirmation bias. They probably were predisposed to believe that the shop lifter would be black. So, with that bias, they excluded every thing else that didn’t fit the bias, and made errors…. Then the Chief offers up hypotheses that weren’t possible, due to the fact that everything is already concluded. By saying that some times descriptions change. The reporter reminded him, that, that wasn’t the case. It was meant to keep him on track, and not move the goal post…
Exactly! And yes, the disclaimer at the beginning would be comical if it wasn't so terrifying. It's just a long-winded way to say that we should trust a cop's memory over concrete video evidence.
Yup everyone who makes a mistake needs to be fired. It's not worth it to stop shoplifters anymore. Imagine losing your job on this cuz some guy tried to steal 50 bucks worth of merchandice...but the officer questioned the wrong person and now is out of a job. This is why they just let the blacks steal now as long as it's under 700 dollars. It's not worth losing your job or bad publicity.
This makes a person feel so degraded. Its a sinking feeling honestly. I was recently trailed by an older white female in Wal-Mart while looking for m&m's. She followed me for 5 mins.... I confronted her. I was livid but managed to keep it together. I had 120 cash and my 2cc and my debit card and I'm gonna steal $2 mm??? Its a sad day for any Black person to have to go through thus- and I single Blac because at this point it seems routine to try to victimize U.S.
12:17 the best point that was made in the whole video. either the cops were lying or the asset protection guy was. Can't be both! Absolutely shameful police work.
"In a call to 911, a Meijer loss prevention worker described a white suspect who was wearing a dark green/gray Carhartt coat with a red hoodie underneath. Eric Lindsay, the innocent Black shopper stopped by police, was wearing a puffy burnt orange coat with a scarf." The Loss Prevention worker got it right. The dispatcher relaying the information also got it right. The police ignored the correct description and decided to accuse an innocent man, instead. I say "ignored" the description rather than made a mistake because it's evident from 3:23 that they KNEW the guy they were approaching didn't match the description.
Right I can’t believe the real shoplifter did get away he had many of chances to just walk right out the store with the stolen items! The racist cops didn’t care they was to busy looking for blacks that they hate
@@dto1270 That the man was pissed and emotionally distressed that he got profiled while the theif was calm to make himself look innocent Tf what do u mean that of which this shit made me go through so much emotions even though that it wasen't me
I worry about the general intelligence of these police officers. From the start, they were told (by dispatch) that a man was actively shoplifting (i,e., placing items under his clothes, so as to _steal_ them, and that he was currently in “AISLE 14”. Why did the officer go to “CHECKOUT LANE 14”, as if the suspect were actually in the process of _purchasing,_ not stealing?
@@ed7519 The store and dispatch both relayed where the suspect was and what he looked like. This is on the cops for dismissing that info and on the store manager for not defending his LP employee when he knew the police fucked up.
Normally retailers don’t stop shoplifters until they try to leave the store with stolen merchandise. Seems like the managers weren’t doing things correctly as the officers normally go to the loss prevention room to pick up suspects. Officers also were wrong for walking around the store looking for the suspect.
The dispatcher said it was a Caucasian male with a tan jacket in an orange sweater hoodie, and they still walked up to the black guy because he was staring at the officers and they felt he was doing something wrong, I watched a whole Nother in the video on this and the officers have to pay this man because he sued, more taxpayer dollars going out because racist police officers get their egos and feelings hurt
Sound like to me the Asset Protection person is the only one that did tell the truth. It's disgusting how the cops stick to their lie as if they didn't have a FULL description!
Why didn't lose prevention met up with the officers to I'd the suspect. There's no way that they could've got the wrong man when the 911 operator told them it was a white man. These officers profile this man. I can understand why he's upset. As to why the Apc or the ApA didn't apprehend the shoplifters before the police officers arrived? Believe me that most shoplifters are white. Where most people believe other wise. When I was a Asset protection Coordinator in my stores more white people shoplift than any other race. National theft database reports these facts
In the store I used to work in, security ALWAYS detained the thieves first AND THEN the cops came and took it from there-- BUT before they even got to that point in order for security to even approach them, the thief had to be on their way out the door with the stolen merchandise instead of in the middle of a store aisle like we see in this video. The cops in my store would show up, go straight into the security office where the thief was being kept, then after about 10 minutes or less you'd see the person/people go out in handcuffs. I'm pretty sure that 10 minutes or less was spent with the police viewing the video evidence of the stealing that had occurred. They never just came into the store and took the person away or confronted the person straight away like they did in this video. Also, as far as who steals more, I wouldn't doubt for a minute that those numbers are misreported-- JUST LIKE how the true numbers are misreported about black people being the main ones who are on welfare.
@@greatgownsbeautifulgowns I'm a retired Asset protection Coordinator, you're correct. You have to have your 5 elements before approaching shoplifters . If they turn the corner you lost eye sight there goes your shoplifter. You can not approach them. It's best to have other Apa or members of managements watching . Never go after one alone. They have to have passed all points of registers,unless there's a sidewalk sale. Most stores now are installing vestview in their stores. Which is a entance before you get to the main entrance to the store. Never have I had police to to come in the store without making contact with loss protection or management. I have been on the phone with 911 operators telling the location of the shoplifters. All ways have your Apa members of managements or associates that are designated to help apprehend shoplifters
@@earvetta Exactly! We were told to alert security if we saw somebody stealing instead of going up to them. I've never seen a manager go up to a shoplifter and stand there while they're being apprehended whether security was dealing with the thief or after police arrived.
@@greatgownsbeautifulgowns A member of management should be with a APA associate or the APC, never go after a shoplifters by your self if a manager isn't available select other reliable associates. It's to dangerous you don't know if they have any weapons or if they will fight you. Not only that when they see more than one Ap or associate they're less likely to run. There's safety in numbers also witness. My managers and a few hand pick associates knew when we called the code, they had to stop what they was doing and go to all exits doors. I took it that shoplifters was stealing from me, shrink affected my bonuses. Believe me I didn't earn the name Silver Fox for nothing. If I or one of my managers or selected associates didn't cover the doors that would a coaching from the Market Asset Protection Manger all the way up to Corporate management
He fucking lied. “The description changed to what you were wearing” Bullshit. It never changed. He lied and tried to make its seem the mejier guy was the screwup. He lied.
@@PapeySapote Im pretty sure the description dispatch gave was for a green jacket. It looks like OP was trying to say that the cops made the "tan" description up, but their comment has a typo.
When the Police Chief was interviewed by a TV Channel, he said, "This was a minimal police encounter, the police acted professional". 1. This was NOT a "minimal police encounter"...It was "A Police Dentition" and an "Interrogation" 2. The Police could see that the man was black when he walked up to him...OK, maybe he could not tell he was black because he was a long way from him 3. The Police 100% accused him of being the "Shoplifter" and accused him of having items under his coat 4. The Police did NOT listen to Dispatch ***The Sr Police Officer DID NOT listen to DISPATCH or to his younger officer who said, "Thats not him" and "He looks nothing like him"
You would think the police would talk to staff members, because you would think they would know who the thief is, before just walking through the store and taking pot luck in questioning anyone
The staff did come out and talk to the cops and they were also directed on their radios to checkout lane 14 and then further directed from there. Did you watch the video or just comment based on the title without actually watching?
@@jensen220 yes I did watch the video and all's I saw was two cops march in the store and walk up the lanes and not taking a blind bit of notice what was being said to them, because if they were listening they wouldn't have approached a bloke who walked in after them, seems like you wasn't watching properly
@@littlemissy2883 - 😂😂Maybe you should try watching all the way through. If I weren't "watching properly," I never would've posted to you. My reply didn't address the fact that they went up to the wrong guy; that was evident. It addressed the fact that you posted something without having watched what happened.
Why ask questions when you think you already know everything? That level of arrogance is what results in situations like this where a completely innocent guy that doesn’t even come close to the suspects description gets bagged up.
For 1 time the police men was man enough to say sorry which is more then any other cop say,still DONT excuse the fact they where nicer to the real criminal then him the way they to him was what started all this
What white people don't understand is that this kind thing has been going on for too long and sometimes it ends in tragedy. Before cameras oftentimes it would have been thrown under the rug and forgotten about. Other races, foreigners should never say I know how you(BLACK MAN) feel, BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW. BROTHER YOU HANDLED YOURSELF VERY WELL. PEACE!
I mean usually the descriptions are more vague and general: "... black male, wearing jeans, measuring between 3 feet and 8 feet...". In that case I could understand a confusion, but here... COME ON! It's almost as if the brain had already decided who the criminal would be.
The dispatcher said the suspect was caucasian and one of the cops said the black man looks nothing like the man they are looking for but they STILL decided to go and harass him SMH
OK, so the description on the dispatcher said that it was a Caucasian male, not black??? WTF? In my opinion the stop was racially motivated, because of the radio dispatcher’s description. My heart goes out to this poor gentleman.
That's not true... Depends where your at and how far they want to take it to screw you over... I've been grabbed b4 walking out and after walking out.. Never stole again... Bcuz it doesn't matter. Here. If you put it in your pocket... That's guilty enough. Concealing merchandise..
You can actually put things in your pocket and they can’t get you in trouble for it. The only thing they can do is walk to you and ask if you need a buggie or something to carry them. I’ve worked in retail the past 5 years and we’ve had this happen multiple times where people thought they could carry items and couldn’t hold them all once they went shopping
@@jandrothaghost There is a such thing called scan as you shop, even Walmart has the App, so you can scan and bag your items while you're shopping, Amazon store you get your items and walk out and their scanned and charged to your credit card. Best to wait until people exit the store then it is considered theft.
No amount of pretty costumes can improve the hiring practices, training, policy, history and most importantly; culture of a police department. There can be no accountability if none of the staff can handle criticism and seek to improve themselves and the department.
Yup, it's time to just fire all white people and hire only blacks. We the taxpayers can't afford to hand out the keys to the city and millions in dollar to every black person that gets wrongfully questioned in the vicinity of a crime.
The cop was disrespectful to the man upon contact... This "we are trying to figure it out" BS line... There was absolutely nothing to figure out, the dispatch call was clear... The black man walked in behind the cops that arrived to the scene, as the actual suspect was already in custody within the store... The black man went a total different direction separate from the cops, he did not mirror any of them, which was a BS narrative that the police chief told the news media... The store manager was never contacted when the police arrived, he was with the actual suspect, yet the manager never stated that the black man was not the suspect when he was in front of him... The manager just casually guided the cops away from the black man... The police entered the store, walked past every white person and went directly to the black man... Everything about this encounter was racial... The information was of a "white suspect" that they were given... This was not a mistake... This was blatant racial profiling and a cover up attempt... The lies went on and on.
That's the craziest thing, they had a great description of the shoplifter, what was the problem. I'm sorry I made a mistake the cop says ,thank God he didn't get some testosterone hyper nut case cop, because that could have been bad. The man is a law abiding citizen and the way they approached him saying ,hey boss,than you know that they don't have good intentions.
There's no God to thank, just saying. Also you don't need to be a crazy cop to be annoyed by this manchild suspect. The cops were polite with him and he became toxic/cringey. Lol
@@bronz9371 you sound ridiculous . Polite ? Right . Couldn’t pass up the opportunity to racial profile a Black man. Meanwhile a third cop had to be called to arrest the actually shoplifter.
@@karinaz8756 You're saying this because the cops are white. You have the racist mindset. Once again, the cops were OBJECTIVELY polite to him when they approached. Then the suspect proceeded to throw a tantrum. An innocent/reasonable person would just simply prove their innocence, when they act like this... person, they just make themselves suspicious. That's my point.
@@josephwoodham3190 black officers don't do this,the rate is so outrageously low in the other circumstances that white law enforcement keeps that a dark secret.
That's why I gave up on the pursuit of riches. The manager is deplorable and sad but a company guy. I refuse to sell soul for success. Im already a success. Im a child of the most high.
Me too... But what does that do. In this instance brothr.. A black man almost went to jail. Being on both sides of the law i can tell how upset anyone would be. Thats the scary part i dont think he recognized that. He ALMOST went to jail.. Bcuz they already had decided it has to be him.. They usually hav to ask is he black or whit we need more info.. What's sadd is this is the world we live in.. The fact we serve a God of Love. And the fact that his Love is made perfect by being fair and just. Meaning hes not only a God of Grace and Mercy but also a God of Justice... This should make anyone turn in their chair. Knowing that that injustice like this goes on everyday. And sometimes ppl do go to jail and inoccent.. Happened to mee... And i lost my family. Kids and house over it.. All bcuz they tryed to accuse the wrong person.. Im jus grateful i never went to prison. Instead i turned it over to Christ more than i ever did. Still without my family but at least i have Christ. The Lord giveth. The Lord taketh away.. But this should not happen. And its happening at high levels
How dare that racist cop say it ok……what the hell….like when they tell you to relax and pull a person Their hair. This is not even close to the descriptions given. SMH
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Cops receive description of a white man in his 30s wearing a dark green/grey jacket and an orange hat. They go question a 60-year-old black man wearing an orange jacket and black hat. Shortly before questioning him, one of the cops says in the recording that he "doesn't even look anything like him" (referring to the description of the actual suspect). 3:23
All of that, plain as day from both this video and from the police's internal investigation, and yet there are still people in these comments claiming the police did nothing wrong.
And people wonder why we say there's a systemic issue...
They're bootlickers or they're racist it's as simple as that!
Now Sir, you better understand the depth of hate of the the ppl at question. Take it and free yourself
This happens to all races not just blacks. A white person was accused of mass shooting and turned it the shooter was black.
Lets make this a race issue. Blame the person who gave the description.
@matthew frank mikovich Facts
what made it worse is the black manager that stood by and said nothing
Exactly 💯
Coward of a manager. COWARD
He ain’t shit either and don’t stand for the black people either
I'd sue the manager too for incompetence...
That manager wants the Police to respond for future incidents in a timely manner. If he makes noise it could take the police hours to respond.
The manager stood by and let it happen he didn't stop and correct the police the store manager was with them the whole time
The police was just as wrong. Once they enter the store they should go to the Lost Prevetion office before making contact with the shoplifters. They run the streets and public, when they step in the store, they have to abide by store companies policing. The store is responsible liable for what happens to the shoplifters. The store is the one who will be sued. Once the police speaks with Lost Prevention or a member of management they can take over the case. The store tells police officers if they want to press charges or if they want to banned the shoplifters. Banding means the shoplifters are not to go on any property of the store even if they're out of the states. We used API, a computer base report that's Shared company wide. Which is one of the first things you look at to see if they have previous been caught shopping lifting.
I don’t, I understand what I’m the hell these people are worth to society… these 2 mean deserve to be jailed and stripped of their badges and laughed at publicly, racist pigs
@@earvetta Do you really believe the store is responsible for the action of rouge police officer??? You really believe that the cops are under the "store law" and must follow their policies?
@@sittingindetroit9204 I as a Asset Protection Coordinator worked for 18 years whenever law enforcement was called to any of my stores whether it was disturbing operation oi f business or shoplifters small children being left on the stor if someone is purchasing the ingredients to make crack ect. The decision has always been left up the what the store polices are. Give you a couple of examples. If a homeless person came only stole some ready cooked food, would you have them arrested. A child put a pack of gum in thdir pocket. A customer come in the automotive business entirely open a bottle coil pour some of it on the floor lay down in it, wants to file a accident claim you get a call you look at the video see what that customer did. You have called the none emergency phone number to have a police officer to come to the store tell the operator what location for the officers to come so they won't go to the AP office. You Go out to speak with the customer with a accident floder get their information. Ask if they're alright listening to them tell you what happened ask them if they want to file a accident report. You have a associate to to stay and watch the customer you don't want to leave a customer who just had a slip and fall in the store to be left alone that may pass out. Once the officers come to your location you tell them what you got got going on that you've viewed the video what the customer did.. The customer doesn't know that you're speaking to police officers. They ask what you like to do. You already have your banned paperwork done. Go back to the location where the customer is the officers With the police telling the customer exactly what you viewed on video ask them if they still want to file a accident report. You do inform them that you're Bannding them from the stores. Reading the paper work to them. Ask their I'd have them to sign it. The police are going to ask if you want to have each of these of the people in these examples arrest. You make a decision based on company policy. Yes each one could be arrested. If you look at cost of each of these examples would it be cost affected for you to have to go to court for their hearings?. In order Banned to be put on a customer it has to be on record at the police you station called the police give a copy of the APIS report. Those are just few of the the things when a officer arrive at any of my stores. They will ask you want you would like to do. Which you go by company policies. Anything that's taken out of the store that is not paid for by law it's shoppingliting regardlessof the amount. Another thing is establishment communication with the police, by going by the station to introduce yourself. Business are private property. So yes law enforcement will listen and let you on behalf of the store make the decisions
@@earvetta None of that explains why it is the stores fault that the police went after someone that did not fit the description they were provided....was it a store employee that pointed at the innocent guy and said.....get him.....
I love “who do I sue”!!! Walked in behind the police 🤦🏿♂️
I thought it's only shoplifting if you leave the store
I have a Meijers store where I live. Today I witnessed the worst racial profiling I’ve ever seen in my life. A white female door greeter stopping 3 black couples in a row to check their receipt and cart. I immediately demanded customer service get me the manager. In all that time, not once did she stop white people. Those were the only black people I saw leave thru those doors. I chewed out the manager, filed complaints with their corporate office, waiting to hear from them right now, and tomorrow I will be boycotting outside their store. I’m a 60 year old white man and I have never seen such blatant racism in my life. I was shocked, disgusted and emotionally upset.
I think it takes others to recognize and act for others when they are being discriminated against.
Thank you, brother.
Update?
Ha ha
@truthillinois6397 Thank you for feeling and understanding our pain. It happens so often that it's ridiculous!
WOW, those two men were practically IDENTICAL TWINS, . . . . said the people who will defend the incompetence of the Officers.
Yup, I couldn’t tell them apart!!!!
@@mrflynn01
Hell, I couldn't tell them apart and I'm black! 🤦♂🙄🤦♀️
@@Junkman2008, I’m sure you couldn’t.
Yep I see the resemblance just like the movie twin..with Arnold S.and Danny D...😂
@@leroyphillips2638 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Manager asks "are you still shopping?".
STILL SHOPPING???Hell no! That place wouldn't get a cent more of my money for embarrassing me like that.
@@ladybug6117
I agree to an extent. The store was actively on the phone with police reporting the location of the real suspect. The manager stood there and didn't correct the officers.
Whoever called the police also needs to be fired. If they miss something like a bright Orange hat then they’re clearly not fit for the job.
Straight up! I wouldn't wanna come back in there for anything!
That manager wants him out, to sooth the embarrassment. Blacks are just as bad when they pull in a little position.
Those cops knew exactly what they were doing. Disgusting.
Nah, they just made a mistake and they apologized profusely. The report didn't even mention to the cops that it was a white guy.
I disagree ! I believe that they are so stupid they don't even know what they were doing was wrong ! Disgusting
Most cops are just like their Ancestors. wicked and they wonder why so manny of us Don't trust them
TRUMP POLICING!!!
@@blackkman1324 no happened way before Trump. KKKops
"who do i sue when you dont find shit" this is the correct response, good job. tan is not orange, someone get these guys an eye test
Exactly, if a cop mistakenly questions anyone they should sue. I've been wrongfully questioned by cops and I was embarrassed, I want 10 trillion at least.
@@johnames6430 mistakenly questioning is not what happened here, they deemed the suspect
I feel ya brother. They will never understand how u feel. How in the hell do u get a black man confused with a white man
Absolutely love how awkward he made it for these cops!! AWESOME JOB civilian
Shopping while Black? Yes sir, that's against the law. Breathing while shopping while Black is not criminal but still a violation.
I commend this gentleman for continuing to press the point because obviously the people involved didn't know the seriousness of what they did and especially to a black man. Because of the attitudes and blatant disrespect and murders the police have perpetrated on men of colour, it is not unusual for them to be scared for their life anytime an officer is nearby. You'll notice he knew exactly that the police arrived before he did and even probably prepared to say that if he was illegally detained / profiled.
@@ClarityDetermination
BLACK PEOPLE ARE TROUBLE MAKERS
@@WHEREVER-I-ROAM some people in every city in every country in the world are trouble makers. You don't have to see that though. You are safe because you have your head up your ass.
My son was 17 at the time and he is 6'4 and he was with two black kids Ben and Isaiah, and two white boys. He was friends with these boys for 9 years!! Very good kids!! There was a robbery at a gas station a block from our house, and my son had gone to his friends house 3 blocks away where his other 3 friends were hanging out! as well. The police spotted my son who was wearing a black hooded sweatshirt jacket walking with his friends back to our house, when the cops showed up, pointed guns at these 5 boys because they thought my son was the one that burglarized the gas station!!!! The worker of the place had told the cops that the person was chunky & short!! My son is skinny and 6'4!!! What the hell is wrong with people!!! You know who you are looking for and turn it on a bunch of innocent boys!!! This mom was PISSED OFF and told the chief of police I was going to sue the living hell out them for pointing guns at 5 innocent boys because of what my son was wearing!! It makes me sick!!
Make sure you make a formal complaint. Too many times this happens and POC don't m
File a complaint. At least for the PD I worked for this was the case and am sure it is the same for other jurisdictions.
Wow. Dats y people love wen cops get they muthafukin brains blown out. 🧠 🔫. Yep. Racism
Well Mel, that is very unfortunate & I’m sure it has scared your son as well as the other children. The good thing for you & your son is you can sue & you will be taken seriously & you will probably receive a settlement or compensation for the mishap with your son. The sad thing is that black individuals are often dismissed & told it happens like the officer initially said to the innocent man. Our cases or complaints fall on deaf ears & we cope until it happens again
Lo hacen xq son racistas y piensan q tu hijo es un pedaso de mierda,tiene suerte q no Telo mataron,imgainaye todo loq ha sucedido x tantos años sin cámaras para grabarlos,en la frontera los hemos visto matar niños!!! Suerte amigo así está este mundo racista y clasista!!
Well, that’s because that’s the name they made for themselves! So my suggestion is don’t let your white kids hang out w black kids or this is what u get!
Part of what is angering the gentleman is the fact that the officers were not making inquiries but affirmative accusations. The store “positively identified” as the thief yet he arrived after the officers. Even the officers weren’t sure but acted with certainty like he was guilty. The gentleman was faced with what, he knew were lies, from the beginning of the interaction. People that lie about you are trying to harm you.
Police officers who lie cannot be trusted. And, police officers 99.99% of the time will lie to justify their racist actions.
I recall hearing stories about the old west... when someone called you a liar you could shoot that fuck dead in his heart AND be justified in court, because that was the worst thing you could call an honest man, and yet today cops with their itchy trigger fingers walk around calling everyone liars.
Caucasian man with green jacket and they stop a Black Man in a orange jacket!🤯 The other officer in training said he doesn't fit the description!😮
"I understand, you're upset" wow, that's some master class policing there.🤦🙄🤦🙄🤦
It wasn't an inconvenience, it was a humiliation! I imagine this man isn't mad because you took a few seconds out of his day. I imagine that this isn't the first time he has had to deal with something like this, and for the officer to tell him that it's not a big deal and that he is free to issue a complaint and being dismissive of how this made him feel is extremely aggravating.
My opinion - The officers made a mistake BUT
America is full of entitled people like that guy
JUST SHOW THEM THAT YOU HAVENT TAKEN ANYTHING AND ITS OVER.
THATS IT
INSTEAD OF LECTURING THEM JUST PROVE IT!!!
Oh America 🤦♂️🤷
@@nathanvarghese. They did not make a mistake. They profiled the black 60 year old man. When they were looking for a 30 year old white man. Clothing did not match the description. Don't allow your rights to be violated.
@@nathanvarghese. In America you don't have to prove innocence they have to prove guilt. You don't have to assist them gathering evidence against you. "No not me, No I didn't do it, F*** off and demand 1st 4th 5th 14th amendments wont talk till lawyer present" see you in court twice once for my innocence and once for my civil case have a nice day LOL
Last year white cops murdered a 17 year old unarmed white kid foreal y'all they didn't put it in the world news only the local news they usually only put the black deaths on the news because the illuminati want blaks and whites fighting each other so we can't come together the real enemy is the illuminati not the police but most Police so crazy u can't tell them nothing stupid cops. police and people supposed to b working together but the illuminati has a racism agenda they pushing it's deep.
If a lot of people knew that a white kid was murdered by a cop there would be a lot more dead cops
First thing, "Excuse me sir, have you seen a man wearing a tan jacket?". Then when he says no, move on. You need to do some investigation before you stop anyone. This was not an honest mistake. Everyone needs to get it through their heads that every person of any race is a human being and deserves to be treated with dignity. This man was humiliated by the police, and I would be pissed off too. I get that there was an actual shoplifter involved, but you damn well better be able to differentiate between orange and tan. They are not even close to the same color.
Logic doesn't apply,humanity is disregarded ,hatred thrives,rich get richer...
@@wiolettapagowski5590 yeah anytime I try to understand instances of racism, I have to remind myself there is no logic in racism and therefore no way to understand it
Back to preschool they go. Tan, orange all the same. Schsh.
just like black and white not the same
Then why do some people say Trump is well tanned ,while others say he's orange.
In the end it turns out nobody knows what green looks like.
If it wasn’t for the body cam I feel confident they would’ve put the black man in cuffs for “obstructing justice”
yup, plus beat him for "resisting"
1000% TRUE
Yes Mr. Store manager, that poor man needs help getting his dignity back. Shame on your store and shame on the police for not being sure.
Oh no oh no oh no no no no
no...help him omgsssh what's to be done..he has lost all of his dignity..🙀
Shit.
That's why they do a thing called investigate and talk to him to stop sure that guy was an idiot he could have just waited and talked to them so they were sure he wanted to start and fight and yell so he seems like he's so brave for yelling at a cop
@CimarronWay probably has happened to him a few times before n he tired
@@idkwhattoput777 they were called for a white individual with totally different of clothes. There's no way they mistook him for the guilty party. Even as they were talking to him the store through the intercom was telling them where the subject was. He had every right to get annoyed
The cops should be buried alive.
“Take your hands out of your pockets”…..that is NOT a lawful order until someone has been detained. They never said that he was being detained. I’m so sick of them treating everyone like a criminal. I’ve seen them do this to people that record them. I’ve seen them do it to people that question them, or back-talk them. I know they say it’s for officer safety, but from what I’ve seen, it’s just something they say when they are power-tripping.
Not true at all. 😂
@@ryans9029
Actually true at all times. What is the criminal code for putting your hands in your pockets? There isn’t one because it’s not a crime to put your hands in your pocket.
Ryan s mr know it all / it is true
Sure. It's not a lawful order. I agree. So go ahead and keep your hands in your pockets when the cops tell you not to. See how that works out for you.
@@davecarsley8773
That went right over your head. I didn’t suggest anyone not do it. My point is that cops are drunk on their perceived authority and usually say it for their ego’s sake. Not their safety. So many cops on here trying to give advice on how to just bend over and take it. Eat their shit with a knife and fork and nobody gets hurt. I’ve heard it all before. It thanks for the advice.
This is crazy. What kind of system do they have for the dispatcher to be directing the cops who the shoplifter is instead of talking directly to the store manager or assistant manager. I understand that these stores are very large and you can lose the shoplifter, but this store needs in store loss prevention.
DISPATCHER SAID WHITE MALE ------------ COPS PURE RACIST===========
probably had black man in loss prevention too, almost guarantee ti, it doesn't matter if the store manager is black or loss prevention the black man will always play the race card and try to get money.
They need an entirely new loss prevention team. That bright Orange hat should’ve been one of the main parts of the description and they dropped the ball BAD
The cop gave his business card because he knew nothing would happen. This is sickening..
Yep. That cop got a pat on the back when returning to the station for almost making an arrest on a Black man.
Well the city settled the lawsuit!😅
I feel so bad for that man. Also the way he was kind of dismissed by the officers when they realized. How did the officers mess up so badly?! I really think they profiled him, thinking they could catch him as well. Horrible how our society is.
They wanted the black man to be guilty
Yes they absolutely 100% profiled him. There's no other explanation for it
If they couldn't catch the real crook they'll get the next best thing an innocent Blackman....
They absolutely profiled him. There's no other explanation.
Suspect is a blonde woman in high heels F it I'll just go after the black guy
Man, if only he knew that they was told as they walked in the door “It’s a white male” 🤦♂️ I’m sure he’d of slapped the hell outta them 😂
what minute in did they tell them ..the culprit was white?
Lmao yeah he was pissed but I understand that's embarrassing
Man when they got the actual guy... I died laughing when the black man said "you gotta be kidding me" 😂 💀
The manager need to be fired, standing there watching the situation play out knowing that that's not the suspect in question. 😡😡😡
Cop lied with a straight face saying they didn't know what the person was wearing or race. Ok if that was the case why didn't you stop all of the wht people you came across? The funny thing was the store Mgr was trying to cover for the cops, he was putting his own LP person under the bus knowing they give out the right description. The brother cop went to the right person with no problem. No the cop wasn't nasty way he approached the gentleman but you would have to be blk to understand why he was upset.
Ohh you know that the cop was lying. You must be omniscient
You couldn't even see the f****** cops face.
@@nathanvarghese. consider watching the entire video played at trial you can cleary hear dispatch describe the person they were supposed to look for,yes he lied straight to that mans face, he knew exactly what he was doing
A white man calling a black man “boss” is racial as f*!k! White people are masters at using racist code words.
@@nathanvarghese. how that boot taste?
I feel for this guy all he wanted to do was some shopping and then has to go through this unwanted stress.
duhhhhh
Race or no race....no one likes to be accused of something that they didn't do, especially in front of other people....the man in the orange jacket was humiliated in front of other shoppers and it pissed him off and I don't blame him one damn bit......assuming makes an idiot of this officer.
I get that, race or no race, however, it happens to black people much more often, so please try to understand why people get so upset.
And please miss me/us with the race or no race BS. The only thing those men had in common was the COLOR orange. Their prejudices drove their actions. There's no way the both of them heard or told the other orange hat and they both heard orange coat/jacket.
@@P3P33U Orange hat is different from jacket. They heard the race. This training officer was training the other officer to learn how to harass. I used to work for a PD and this is too commonly done.
@@mrjaybee73 You have no idea how many times it happens to white people too. In highschool two friends & I were mistaken for stealing a class graduation ring. My principle didn't believe us, held us for hours while unappropriately searching us individually several times. They eventually found the kid who stole, a hispanic kid in a gang. None of us ever received any apologies from our school board or principles. This is one of many examples.
@@gocubsgo721 "This is one of many examples." Do you have a example of cops doing this to you in a store like they did this guy?
"You don't understand it til you got the skin color I got"😭 this man's frustration was 100% warranted! Bless u
And the word of the late great Paul Mooney everybody wants to be black but nobody want to be black
I've been questioned by police but I was never made to feel it was because of my skin color 😥had I known I would walk around with a chip on my shoulder and throw a tantrum everytime I deal with police in the hopes that I could sue.
@@johnames6430 this guy was minding his business shopping, doing nothing wrong, you people create and place those chips on shoulders y’all love talking about
"You know how stupid you guys look? I love how this man refused to back down. He knew these cops had no reason to approach him and he wasn't about to meekly put up with being unreasonably profiled.
The first word from the published dispatch call was "Caucasian"....Apparently the "training officer" couldn't process that as he contacted the African-American gentleman...who was well within his rights to be upset....
FBI stats prove the majority of shoplifting crimes are committed by B**ck people.
Lol RUclips keeps deleting my comment for using the word black.. so I abbreviated B**ck and miraculously my comment stopped being deleted..
@@thetruepatriot7733 Cop number one omitted the fact that the dispatch call DID advise the color of the suspect...then went on to describe the clothing...It wasn't the loss prevention guy...it was this cop diverting from the dispatch call...
@@thetruepatriot7733 Shut up and stop gaslighting. They clearly got a description that the guy was Caucasian. So stop with your racist explaining.
@@4catsnow yes.. I agree the cop was told the suspect was white but he subconsciously thought the suspect was black... BECAUSE most shoplifters are B**ck. If most of the criminals you encounter are B**ck, it makes sense that you would assume the suspect is B**ck!! All stereotypes are routed in reality! Its subconscious thinking...
I could feel his pain.
6:13 says it all
Yes so could I
How can you arrest someone inside a store how didn't you know if he's going to pay or not.
Exactly!
In many states concealing merchandise is a crime.
I heard he was cutting the packaging off but may have misheard something.
Because you put items in a cart 🛒 and not your pockets?
Because concealing merchandise clearly demonstrates your intention not to pay for it. You've got 20 items in a shopping cart and five items in your jacket you don't plan on paying the for the five items in your jacket. If you did they would be in your cart.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 "who do I sue when you don't find sh!t?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 "this is orange as fvck". I'm screaming!
I love this man. Yeah I said it. He wouldn't internalize that sh't and he knew there's also cameras everywhere.
Wow, 60 years old and still going through this b.s.. I hope he sues them.
Amazing how the police hear the description of the guy, and totally ignore it. I mean, come on - a white man doesn't look like a black man. Clothes are totally different. And the reason they SAY they went after this guy - he was "mirroring" them. In other words, he looked at the police officer. Yeah, something tells me this guy saw the cops and though, "Uh oh, bet these cops are going to go after me because I'm black" - and he was right!!! I saw a news report where a police officer tried to say, "Well, people sometimes change their clothes" - I've never seen someone change the color of their skin!
I feel this Man's Pain his truth his heart and his anger to the fullest!!! I hope he gets every blessing that's coming to him.
❤️
And every penny he’s owed by cops state and store he ❤️ EVERY PENNY !.
For real, questioning a black man should automatically give him 10 Trillion if he ends up not being the suspect. Personally I think we should just tell officers to let black people do whatever they want, just let them commit crimes and don't bother to question them because that would be racist.
I just wanna give him a hug 🤗
@@johnames6430 black folks always have to pull the race card. Always
The only way that this had been even more absurd is if the suspect was a white woman. The young cop didn't even have the decency to admit that the description given by dispatch included the fact that the suspect was white. He even said that "they were going by the clothing description" is a bald faced lie unless they are unable to tell the difference between kaki and orange. Not to mention that the poor guy came in BEHIND the cops... Man, this could not be more obvious profiling, yet I guarantee there will be some that deny it.
I hope he files complaints against the officers and the store. So much incompetence. The police straight up lie to this man (we all know why they approached him), the store manager stands by and lets them harass this innocent man, and the asset protection employee for not providing a decent description.
The officers apologize over and over, yet they will do the same thing on the next call. 100% racial profiling.
So frustrating!
I am 5 foot 5 and 125 lbs. I have been mistaken for a 5 foot, 300 lb dark skin female, and a 6 foot 4, dark skin, 165 lb male. One in Ohio, one in Michigan. I feel his pain.
The tone of the cop was unprofessional. He should not refer to people as "Boss".... it is condescending. "Come here and talk to me. What a jackwagon. His tone changed real fast when he was on the defensive..... didnt it? When will this ever end? When will the cops get it... that they work for the public? They like to single people out who they think cant defend themselves.... then they run into this guy... and it doesnt work out so well. Well done. As angry as he was.... I was even angrier watching it.
@Ian La Coste cops have an obligation to act professionally... ad if they cant do that... like in any profession.... they need to find a new job.
“Boss” would be condescending? Only if you’re a pansy.
@@papasnook If you want to be treated with respect.... be respectful....snooky
They had no reason to stop him. They were looking for someone white.
@Ian La Coste Yes. Why use it to look stupid as fuck.
"You know how stupid you guys look?"
This innocent man had every right to be royally pissed and I'm glad he didn't hold back on these clowns in uniform.
If the citizens of Westchester are satisfied with this level of incompetent, racist policing then they deserve to pay for what this pathetic police department will cost them.
Ilkr!! I hope these officers are absolutely mortified
@CimarronWay Yes go cry harder.
@CimarronWay just a troll account. You’ve been commenting all over videos capturing this incident. Go get a hobby.
Time to put a huge Black Lives Matter sign across, and up and down that store parking lot.
They should’ve told the caller they can’t do nothing until the shoplifter is apprehended. Normally they get stopped when leaving the store with stolen merchandise. Both the officers and the managers were in the wrong in their own ways.
That guy had every right to be pissed at those cops, I hope he dose file a complaint and even talk to a lawyer about suing the cops and the store. That was total bullshit. The other guy didn't even look anything like each other.
That has to stop. It’s absolutely disgusting that black people are being targeted every single time.
Does everyone see how nice they're treating the actual criminal?
I completely understand his frustration and anger. Racist cops 😠 😡
They just straight up lied...Damn!!!
Goes to show you, retail does not hire the smartest bulbs of the bunch. I would have been upset too.
How is this retail's fault? The cops were racist.
This is what happens when you give mutants uniforms, guns and badges.
I watch a lot of videos that are cringey on purpose like old '80s horror movies we used to watch. That being said I've never cringed so hard in my life. This man is a superhero and I'm proud of how he kept this cool 60 years in this game I guess he's got it down.
That's just pathetic they walk in having the description of the person but the first black man they see that's does not fit the narrative they approach him but doesn't bother to look for the real suspect that is just a COPout they're not doing that job they're just doing whatever they want too!
The disclaimer even allows for officers making mistakes with impunity. Imagine being stopped by police as a white guy, and the description was of a black guy.
This black guy isn’t even light skinned. He’s darker skinned. Those cops had confirmation bias. They probably were predisposed to believe that the shop lifter would be black. So, with that bias, they excluded every thing else that didn’t fit the bias, and made errors…. Then the Chief offers up hypotheses that weren’t possible, due to the fact that everything is already concluded. By saying that some times descriptions change. The reporter reminded him, that, that wasn’t the case. It was meant to keep him on track, and not move the goal post…
Exactly!
And yes, the disclaimer at the beginning would be comical if it wasn't so terrifying. It's just a long-winded way to say that we should trust a cop's memory over concrete video evidence.
This officer needs to be fired!This was no excuse to accuse a man of something he didn't do. And the manager also needs to be fired as well.
Yup everyone who makes a mistake needs to be fired. It's not worth it to stop shoplifters anymore. Imagine losing your job on this cuz some guy tried to steal 50 bucks worth of merchandice...but the officer questioned the wrong person and now is out of a job. This is why they just let the blacks steal now as long as it's under 700 dollars. It's not worth losing your job or bad publicity.
This makes a person feel so degraded. Its a sinking feeling honestly. I was recently trailed by an older white female in Wal-Mart while looking for m&m's. She followed me for 5 mins.... I confronted her. I was livid but managed to keep it together. I had 120 cash and my 2cc and my debit card and I'm gonna steal $2 mm??? Its a sad day for any Black person to have to go through thus- and I single Blac because at this point it seems routine to try to victimize U.S.
Why you still here then? Go back to Africa
It’s not stealing until you leave the store I thought
12:17 the best point that was made in the whole video. either the cops were lying or the asset protection guy was. Can't be both! Absolutely shameful police work.
"In a call to 911, a Meijer loss prevention worker described a white suspect who was wearing a dark green/gray Carhartt coat with a red hoodie underneath. Eric Lindsay, the innocent Black shopper stopped by police, was wearing a puffy burnt orange coat with a scarf."
The Loss Prevention worker got it right. The dispatcher relaying the information also got it right. The police ignored the correct description and decided to accuse an innocent man, instead. I say "ignored" the description rather than made a mistake because it's evident from 3:23 that they KNEW the guy they were approaching didn't match the description.
Oh please....just open yoyr orange jacket. No need to start shrieking
@@mimibee626 Yeah, just subject yourself to unlawful search. That's a great precedent to wilfully propagate 🙄
Clearly you don’t know or don’t care about your rights. But for the rest of us that do…. the lack of police work here is shameful.
@@mimibee626 Let me guess...you are white...right?
The officer went hunting all on his own and the real shoplifter didn't matter to him one bit.
Right I can’t believe the real shoplifter did get away he had many of chances to just walk right out the store with the stolen items! The racist cops didn’t care they was to busy looking for blacks that they hate
I love the body language of the innocent vs that of the guilty
And that of which?
@@dto1270 That the man was pissed and emotionally distressed that he got profiled while the theif was calm to make himself look innocent Tf what do u mean that of which this shit made me go through so much emotions even though that it wasen't me
Silent & guilty af..
Innocent upset as he should be
I don't think people get it; that is disgracefull
The evil never changed for me I am a old lady and it's the same thing over and over
I worry about the general intelligence of these police officers. From the start, they were told (by dispatch) that a man was actively shoplifting (i,e., placing items under his clothes, so as to _steal_ them, and that he was currently in “AISLE 14”. Why did the officer go to “CHECKOUT LANE 14”, as if the suspect were actually in the process of _purchasing,_ not stealing?
Maybe the store should have been clearer as to where the Police needed to be..?
@@ed7519 The store and dispatch both relayed where the suspect was and what he looked like.
This is on the cops for dismissing that info and on the store manager for not defending his LP employee when he knew the police fucked up.
Normally retailers don’t stop shoplifters until they try to leave the store with stolen merchandise. Seems like the managers weren’t doing things correctly as the officers normally go to the loss prevention room to pick up suspects. Officers also were wrong for walking around the store looking for the suspect.
That is the voice of frustration the voice of I'm tired of having to prove myself for everything I do the voice of I will no longer stand for this
The dispatcher said it was a Caucasian male with a tan jacket in an orange sweater hoodie, and they still walked up to the black guy because he was staring at the officers and they felt he was doing something wrong, I watched a whole Nother in the video on this and the officers have to pay this man because he sued, more taxpayer dollars going out because racist police officers get their egos and feelings hurt
Sound like to me the Asset Protection person is the only one that did tell the truth. It's disgusting how the cops stick to their lie as if they didn't have a FULL description!
Wow that manager literally asked him "are you still shopping?"
He my favourite guy of the crew. What an elegant Uncle Tom to seal this deal 😂😂
Why didn't lose prevention met up with the officers to I'd the suspect. There's no way that they could've got the wrong man when the 911 operator told them it was a white man. These officers profile this man. I can understand why he's upset. As to why the Apc or the ApA didn't apprehend the shoplifters before the police officers arrived? Believe me that most shoplifters are white. Where most people believe other wise. When I was a Asset protection Coordinator in my stores more white people shoplift than any other race. National theft database reports these facts
In the store I used to work in, security ALWAYS detained the thieves first AND THEN the cops came and took it from there-- BUT before they even got to that point in order for security to even approach them, the thief had to be on their way out the door with the stolen merchandise instead of in the middle of a store aisle like we see in this video.
The cops in my store would show up, go straight into the security office where the thief was being kept, then after about 10 minutes or less you'd see the person/people go out in handcuffs. I'm pretty sure that 10 minutes or less was spent with the police viewing the video evidence of the stealing that had occurred.
They never just came into the store and took the person away or confronted the person straight away like they did in this video.
Also, as far as who steals more, I wouldn't doubt for a minute that those numbers are misreported-- JUST LIKE how the true numbers are misreported about black people being the main ones who are on welfare.
@@greatgownsbeautifulgowns I'm a retired Asset protection Coordinator, you're correct. You have to have your 5 elements before approaching shoplifters . If they turn the corner you lost eye sight there goes your shoplifter. You can not approach them. It's best to have other Apa or members of managements watching . Never go after one alone. They have to have passed all points of registers,unless there's a sidewalk sale. Most stores now are installing vestview in their stores. Which is a entance before you get to the main entrance to the store. Never have I had police to to come in the store without making contact with loss protection or management. I have been on the phone with 911 operators telling the location of the shoplifters. All ways have your Apa members of managements or associates that are designated to help apprehend shoplifters
@@earvetta
Exactly!
We were told to alert security if we saw somebody stealing instead of going up to them. I've never seen a manager go up to a shoplifter and stand there while they're being apprehended whether security was dealing with the thief or after police arrived.
@@greatgownsbeautifulgowns A member of management should be with a APA associate or the APC, never go after a shoplifters by your self if a manager isn't available select other reliable associates. It's to dangerous you don't know if they have any weapons or if they will fight you. Not only that when they see more than one Ap or associate they're less likely to run. There's safety in numbers also witness. My managers and a few hand pick associates knew when we called the code, they had to stop what they was doing and go to all exits doors. I took it that shoplifters was stealing from me, shrink affected my bonuses. Believe me I didn't earn the name Silver Fox for nothing. If I or one of my managers or selected associates didn't cover the doors that would a coaching from the Market Asset Protection Manger all the way up to Corporate management
FBI data confirms bulk of thefts are from Whites, but that does not fit the narrative racists craft.
He fucking lied. “The description changed to what you were wearing”
Bullshit. It never changed. He lied and tried to make its seem the mejier guy was the screwup.
He lied.
I mean the guy who was arrested wasn’t wearing a tan jacket either lol
@@PapeySapote but tan was the description given to dispatch and put out on the radio. Little Barney and the old cop made it up
White due tan jacket. Not a black man
@@fw8465 I’m saying the guy who was arrested didn’t have a tan jacket either
@@PapeySapote Im pretty sure the description dispatch gave was for a green jacket. It looks like OP was trying to say that the cops made the "tan" description up, but their comment has a typo.
Clueless Officer: "Where is Aisle 10?"
Jeez...I don't know, but maybe try the aisle that has the GIGANTIC number 10 on full display.
Too funny. “Well Barney, last I saw it, it was between aisles 9 and 11.”
I wanna know if the guy brings it to court
With my Detective investigation skills, I've come to the conclusion that those two men are a dead ringer for each other. 😂😂
When the Police Chief was interviewed by a TV Channel, he said, "This was a minimal police encounter, the police acted professional".
1. This was NOT a "minimal police encounter"...It was "A Police Dentition" and an "Interrogation"
2. The Police could see that the man was black when he walked up to him...OK, maybe he could not tell he was black because he was a long way from him
3. The Police 100% accused him of being the "Shoplifter" and accused him of having items under his coat
4. The Police did NOT listen to Dispatch
***The Sr Police Officer DID NOT listen to DISPATCH or to his younger officer who said, "Thats not him" and "He looks nothing like him"
I think demotions are in order for these two officers. This is just incompetence.
And what about the store manager or who ever he was. STOOD BY AND DON'T RECTIFY????
You would think the police would talk to staff members, because you would think they would know who the thief is, before just walking through the store and taking pot luck in questioning anyone
The staff did come out and talk to the cops and they were also directed on their radios to checkout lane 14 and then further directed from there. Did you watch the video or just comment based on the title without actually watching?
@@jensen220 yes I did watch the video and all's I saw was two cops march in the store and walk up the lanes and not taking a blind bit of notice what was being said to them, because if they were listening they wouldn't have approached a bloke who walked in after them, seems like you wasn't watching properly
@@littlemissy2883 - 😂😂Maybe you should try watching all the way through. If I weren't "watching properly," I never would've posted to you. My reply didn't address the fact that they went up to the wrong guy; that was evident. It addressed the fact that you posted something without having watched what happened.
Why ask questions when you think you already know everything? That level of arrogance is what results in situations like this where a completely innocent guy that doesn’t even come close to the suspects description gets bagged up.
For 1 time the police men was man enough to say sorry which is more then any other cop say,still DONT excuse the fact they where nicer to the real criminal then him the way they to him was what started all this
Dispatch: we got a white man in a green coat with a orange hat on stealing..he's possibly concealing a knife
Cops: there goes a black man
I hope these cops get fired and this man sues the whole department for stupidity.
This really burned me up they can't even follow a description of someone that was issued from they're dispatcher 😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬
What white people don't understand is that this kind thing has been going on for too long and sometimes it ends in tragedy. Before cameras oftentimes it would have been thrown under the rug and forgotten about. Other races, foreigners should never say I know how you(BLACK MAN) feel, BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW. BROTHER YOU HANDLED YOURSELF VERY WELL. PEACE!
"This jacket is orange as F,,,."
Well if F,,, had a color, it would be orange.
Nothing beats professionalism!!!! And respect!!
I mean usually the descriptions are more vague and general: "... black male, wearing jeans, measuring between 3 feet and 8 feet...". In that case I could understand a confusion, but here... COME ON! It's almost as if the brain had already decided who the criminal would be.
The dispatcher said the suspect was caucasian and one of the cops said the black man looks nothing like the man they are looking for but they STILL decided to go and harass him SMH
Walked up to him and told him to take his hands out of his pocket like he was a gun toting criminal.
OK, so the description on the dispatcher said that it was a Caucasian male, not black??? WTF? In my opinion the stop was racially motivated, because of the radio dispatcher’s description.
My heart goes out to this poor gentleman.
How Ironic the black cop arrest the right guy....What a world!
The white guy stealing wherever he is has the biggest possible steak on me… screw burgers 😂
Unbelievable that Department is completely incompetent how do you not know what race the person you're looking for? Unbelievable
Might be a medical condition. Some people do have color blindness. But it seems more prevalent in law enforcement.
I learned something today. Not only is there blue/green color blindness but black/brown.
Dont you have to be walking out the store to consider it theft?
Nope as if it in your pocket and police catch you theft
Yes you have to attempt to leave the store, walk a bit past the registers
That's not true...
Depends where your at and how far they want to take it to screw you over... I've been grabbed b4 walking out and after walking out.. Never stole again... Bcuz it doesn't matter.
Here. If you put it in your pocket... That's guilty enough. Concealing merchandise..
You can actually put things in your pocket and they can’t get you in trouble for it. The only thing they can do is walk to you and ask if you need a buggie or something to carry them. I’ve worked in retail the past 5 years and we’ve had this happen multiple times where people thought they could carry items and couldn’t hold them all once they went shopping
@@jandrothaghost There is a such thing called scan as you shop, even Walmart has the App, so you can scan and bag your items while you're shopping, Amazon store you get your items and walk out and their scanned and charged to your credit card. Best to wait until people exit the store then it is considered theft.
Definitely racial profiling no doubt.
No amount of pretty costumes can improve the hiring practices, training, policy, history and most importantly; culture of a police department. There can be no accountability if none of the staff can handle criticism and seek to improve themselves and the department.
Yup, it's time to just fire all white people and hire only blacks. We the taxpayers can't afford to hand out the keys to the city and millions in dollar to every black person that gets wrongfully questioned in the vicinity of a crime.
Sue the store and the police department big time.
The cop was disrespectful to the man upon contact... This "we are trying to figure it out" BS line... There was absolutely nothing to figure out, the dispatch call was clear... The black man walked in behind the cops that arrived to the scene, as the actual suspect was already in custody within the store... The black man went a total different direction separate from the cops, he did not mirror any of them, which was a BS narrative that the police chief told the news media... The store manager was never contacted when the police arrived, he was with the actual suspect, yet the manager never stated that the black man was not the suspect when he was in front of him... The manager just casually guided the cops away from the black man... The police entered the store, walked past every white person and went directly to the black man... Everything about this encounter was racial... The information was of a "white suspect" that they were given... This was not a mistake... This was blatant racial profiling and a cover up attempt... The lies went on and on.
They started the interaction sayjng "Hey, boss". So condescending.
😭😭😂 right damn shame
That's the craziest thing, they had a great description of the shoplifter, what was the problem. I'm sorry I made a mistake the cop says ,thank God he didn't get some testosterone hyper nut case cop, because that could have been bad. The man is a law abiding citizen and the way they approached him saying ,hey boss,than you know that they don't have good intentions.
There's no God to thank, just saying. Also you don't need to be a crazy cop to be annoyed by this manchild suspect. The cops were polite with him and he became toxic/cringey. Lol
@@bronz9371 you sound ridiculous . Polite ? Right . Couldn’t pass up the opportunity to racial profile a Black man. Meanwhile a third cop had to be called to arrest the actually shoplifter.
@@karinaz8756 You're saying this because the cops are white. You have the racist mindset.
Once again, the cops were OBJECTIVELY polite to him when they approached. Then the suspect proceeded to throw a tantrum.
An innocent/reasonable person would just simply prove their innocence, when they act like this... person, they just make themselves suspicious. That's my point.
Pure 100% racial profiling racist pigs. Stereotyping black people...
@@greatfinishingllc1611 No proof. You're only saying that because the cops are white.
They knew he wasn't the suspect before they even approached him.
Right!
When the cop is in the wrong it's ""No problem."
THAT’S A LAW SUIT!!!
How u stop a black man ? And its a white guy the whole time wow
In a hypothetical situation where the races were reversed, would you give a fuck?
@@holocaust_2.0 , I believe that it would be equally stupid on the cops part if the races were reversed.
@@josephwoodham3190 black officers don't do this,the rate is so outrageously low in the other circumstances that white law enforcement keeps that a dark secret.
@@spirit13the1st6 , that's fine. Just saying that this is completely stupid, regardless of who does it or what race it is.
That's why I gave up on the pursuit of riches. The manager is deplorable and sad but a company guy. I refuse to sell soul for success. Im already a success. Im a child of the most high.
Me too... But what does that do. In this instance brothr.. A black man almost went to jail. Being on both sides of the law i can tell how upset anyone would be.
Thats the scary part i dont think he recognized that. He ALMOST went to jail.. Bcuz they already had decided it has to be him.. They usually hav to ask is he black or whit we need more info..
What's sadd is this is the world we live in.. The fact we serve a God of Love. And the fact that his Love is made perfect by being fair and just. Meaning hes not only a God of Grace and Mercy but also a God of Justice... This should make anyone turn in their chair. Knowing that that injustice like this goes on everyday. And sometimes ppl do go to jail and inoccent.. Happened to mee... And i lost my family. Kids and house over it.. All bcuz they tryed to accuse the wrong person..
Im jus grateful i never went to prison. Instead i turned it over to Christ more than i ever did. Still without my family but at least i have Christ.
The Lord giveth. The Lord taketh away.. But this should not happen. And its happening at high levels
AMEN J, it's a shame most people don't realize this.
How dare that racist cop say it ok……what the hell….like when they tell you to relax and pull a person Their hair. This is not even close to the descriptions given. SMH
"You won't understand til you have the same color I got"👏👏👏👏 Bravo...
"We're just going by the information we were given!??????" No your weren't and that's the problem.