I found Home World by accident in the early 2000's. It was on sale cheap and I remember the pkg. saying "1999 Game of the Year". I didn't know what I had found. I wasn't a "Gamer", I'm still not truthfully, but I do game! Yeah, I remember spending 6 hours getting through one level. I remember starting the game after work on a Friday and watching the sun come up on Saturday, still playing. I got wrapped up in these games and it was awesome! I still love these games and just hope that 3 does justice to the franchise.
I hope that the 3rd game will have more context, HW2 was great but boy was i confused, having played HW1 and HW2 consecutively without reading the manual for lore.
@@Solaxe neither is Battlestar Galactica. This would be much better than BG though, much better lore and story and cooler ships. And there would be no gays because the frozen colonists must all be heterosexual for the future survival of the race. So Netflix or Amazon could never make it. It would be amazing.
This was a good game, though the first one was astounding. The one thing I thought was silly is how the narrative changes from "the higaraans trekked across the galaxy to go back to their home" to "Karen S'jet is the most awesome thing in the universe and she led them by herself back to their homeworld" and it seems HW 3 is also deifying S'jet, as opposed to her people.
If you’ll notice, there are six transports that carry the Crew of the mothership. In the original game, there were six cryo- trays, carrying colonists.
Lol why? You already lost Kharak. Natural response is to save what's left not let them die. I lost some early scout fighters saving 300,000 souls in cryostasis. Every sacrifice builds the foundation for Kushans/The exiles to reach Higara. There sacrifices will not be in vain (except when in Cataclysm Kithid classism got worse).
The music was so awesome, it sets the mood so perfectly. Also the fact that the game was always setting up enemy strength relative to yours, so whether you built a lot of ships or not, you always had the perfect difficulty level. This was especially cool when you modified the savegame (essentially just a JSON file) and gave yourself several Dreadnoughts, 100 Keepers (!) and Sajuuk - the enemy would just throw hundreds of ships at you in this case. Battles for the ages, still motivating even after playing through the missions several times.
@@squattingheads It really depends on the game. Is it really fun when you mess up in level 2 so you get stuck in level 16 because your fleet lacks a few ships? Is it also fun if you play perfectly and just breeze through the levels? Let's agree to disagree here.
"At 32:00, you discover that your people were once like the enemies you are now trying to combat. (A way for the Bentusi to say 'don't repeat the mistakes of the past, you weren't as good as you think you were...')". Read the story of the angel moon war to understand.
When I found out that Homeworld 3 was in development, I was simply thrilled. When news came out that it might be released in 2024, I closed my eyes and remembered 'Adagio for Strings'. Some time later, a specific date of March 8, 2024, was announced, and then I glanced at the calendar and counted down the days until the end of 2023 so that psychological barrier was crossed. I felt a thrill of excitement. By the end of February 2024, I had watched and read all available materials, and my pre-ordered copy looked at me every time I started up the system. The excitement grew day by day, until anger appeared. Then I began to fall asleep listening to the soundtrack from Homeworld 2, because I remembered it always calmed me down. In the meantime, slowly and meticulously, I am once again in the middle of this beautiful story, enjoying the Remaster. As I send this message into the void of the universe, the meeting with Imogen will take place in exactly 18 days, 8 hours, 4 minutes, 57 seconds. Should I propose to her right away, or should I invite her to dinner first?
1:55:30 is the most terrifying moment in this whole series. seeing the planet killers descend on the planet you worked so hard to get to in the first game along with defending it against makaan all for these ships to arrive that can easily destroy it all in mere moments is horrifying to me
@@WielkiElektron "One ancient monster's as good as another!" "We... are not... monsters..." "Aren't you? look around, look at what you did to our fleet! All because we dared to get in your way! Look at you, the aloof, the mighty Bentusi! Slaughtering the people who asked for your help! You're WORSE than the Beast. AT LEAST THE BEAST DOESN'T PRETEND TO BE RIGHTEOUS!"
1. Thanks for this, it was a blast watching the world of Homeworld play out. From the start where Rachel S'jet was sitting on that sand dune on Kharak all the way to Karan S'jet preverbally watching over the entire galaxy at the end of 2, was a real great Space Opera. 2. I now understand why a lot of people are not that much of a fan of the plot of HW2 lol. The overall plot of HW2 feels like its from a different franchise and there are a lot of plot elements missing from the game that make me believe the game was rushed, an example being the Bentusi. Like, what do you mean "the last of the Bentusi"? Are they all dead? Was Bentus the last Bentusi in the galaxy while the rest fled to another due to The Beast? So many questions left unanswered. 3. Thank you again for this!
I am a big fan of the original Homeworld and Cataclysm. And yes I dislike HW2 story line... Not even trying to pick on the details, the first impression to me is that this is just a replay of HW1 with a strange remix of events. The whole feeling is basically that we start with a small journey, coming back to a shattered home, on journey to find something (Hiigara - Sajuuk), detour to figure out mysteries, then big ending. Many of the plot makes me feel I am playing HW1 just with a different set of objects. Outside of story line, I find the HW2 system a worse mixture of HW1's plain and simple with Cataclysm's detailed and flexible. It makes things complicate, but without adding versatilities. I would just get rid of all the modules building, just to begin with. The only thing I really like about HW2 is the upgrade in visuals.
read dust wars. Homeworld 2 was rushed and remade coz of sierra close death. Still Relic decided to keep some things canon and rectonned first game a bit in HOM DOK.
Oh man, I've missed HW's goosebumps... It is just that good. I honestly hope HW3 lives up to the expectations and have amazing OST and story and gives me the goosebumps I need. The planet killers arrival is still such a goosebumps-inducing part.
It was a great game back in the day. Some fan community made maps and an encyclopedia with all the worlds and clans. Long after also played Sands of Kharak, good stuff in the lore.
When destroying enemy capital ships, immediately move your smaller units away before they explode. They do cause explosive damage to nearby vessels upon destruction.
ive never played homeworld but have been interested in it recently. While watching i noticed this and wondered why he didnt pull them back lol. I almost thought i was imaging things
I would've loved to have gotten the perspective of the Vaygr fleet attacking Hiigara when Sajuuk and the rest of your Fleet jumps in. Fun Fact: It's possible to yoink Makaan's Dreadnaught and add it to your Fleet.
omg... i saw this movie about a year ago and never thought at that time i would ever see the game in a mobile version... Cataclysm was my introduction to the game 22 or so years ago, it took me a long time to even realize the game was called Homeworld: Cataclysm... the story was amazing and sent chills down my spine at certain points, amazing graphics and the 3d were truly a breath of fresh air after playing so many other games that just became repetitious after a time with the sprite 2d formats, i am still amazed and can't wait to see what lies in store for me in the mobile version... thank you all for a truly memorable and remarkable experience !!!!! i will hafta to dust off the old pc with Win98 so i can do it all over again...
I feel like one of the primary reasons they made Cataclysm non-canon to this is because the Kuun-Lan and her fleet would've just steamrolled Makaan the instant he showed up (and definitely not because they lost Cataclysm's source code. That'd be crazy).
How to make Sajuuk seem less anticlimactic... Triple Sajuuk's size, make it 1 shot the bombardment platforms but turn so slow that it takes time to align phased cannon. A super weapon shouldn't take multiple volleys to destroy something.
To the hiigarans and other superpowers and people of Homeworld, it is but to the progenitors, it's just a key along with Sajuuk ship that opened the eye of aaran
Unanswered question of this game: How did the Vaygr find another Dreadnaught and tons of other Progenitor technology yet, weren't being attacked by the Keepers? This one fact makes zero sense. It was still a great game though. ❤
Propably the same way as Bentusi found their core at first time and Hiigarans after., wothout contact with Keepers. Remember that Karan used data provided by Oracle to find a Dreadnaught in aft/shipyard section of the Progenitor Mothership, which some sections seemed operational like Lighthouse. Maybe Makaan aquired his own by finding abandoned and unprotected one in deep far east Vaygr reaches, free from the Keepers.
@@EndlessInfinity1 Talking about Vaygr and Bentusi affairs, I don't think so. Bentusi saw Makaan rather as Hiigarans before Exile. Also Bentus were in debt to Karan for saving their unbound asses at Tenhauser Gates. Planet Killers imho rather are some sort of reverse engineered progenitor constructs (even with traces of Bentusi technology) or concept from both original games race T-MAT.
It's been a while but I remember the first time I came across the game and I was so fascinated then and still am now. Best story ever, l hope they do a movie so day.
The thing I've not got my head around is why the Bentusi were so interested in the Hiigarans? I know they got a really shitty deal at the collapse of their last empire, but they were warmongerers, and even tried to steal a core from the Bentusi in an ambush. So why sacrifice themselves for a people who were so deceitful and warlike given the Bentusi's crusade for galactic peace? Great video by the way. This game was incredible
The idea is the exile has humbled them so that they will not repeat their past mistakes. The Bentusi were on a decline for a while and knew their time as keepers of the galaxy was at an end. The Hiigarans would be their successors.
Agreed. The exiles paid their penance, hopefully now more peaceful after witnessing so much blood and with much more wisdom, they are to bear the duty of peace keepers like the bentusi did before them. The bentusi are unbound, so one with their ship, and they use progenitors tech. The exiles have an unbound fleet commander, and now they have the litteral manifestation of a God into the real world, Sajuk. So in a way, they are now whay the bentusi have been for ages
Lore dump incoming. (it’s not a Wiki copy-paste, I typed this from memory from the original Lore Book.) The Hiigarans weren’t Warmongers, nor did they try to steal the Bentusi Core. The Taiidan had Bribed, Cheated and Assassinated members of the Galactic Council into forcing the Hiigarans to forfeit dozens of their Outer Workds and Colonies, and enslaved any who refused to leave them, in addition to surrendering a 30 Lightyear exclusion zone along their entire Border with the Taiidan. The Hiigarans were powerless to stop them. It was later that the Hiigarans found the second Far Jump Core, and built up their Navy around a new Flagship, the Sajuuk’s Wrath. With it they jumped their entire Fleet past the heavily fortified Exclusion Zone to strike the Taiidan Capital, where They defeated the Imperial Guard Fleet and bombarded the Imperial Palace. After which they returned directly to Hiigara. They had hoped this would convince the Galactic Council to return the Hiigaran Worlds to them, but instead The Council Demanded that the Hiigaran immediately Dissarm their Navy and abandon their entire Fleet in the Exclusion Zone, and to surrender the Far Jump Core to the Council. The Hiigarans knew that disarming their Fleet would leave them completely defenseless against the Taiidan, who would eventually reorganize and demand Blood, and that Surrendering the Core to the Galactic Council would effectively be surrendering it to the Taiidan. But the Hiigarans also did not want to wage war with the entire Galaxy, which is why they hatched a Plot. The Bentusi were the most powerful force in the Galaxy, and the only other Race to have Far Jump technology, and the Hiigarans knew that the whole Galaxy, including themselves, looked up to them. So they claimed that they would Dissarm their Fleet, but they would only surrender their Core to the Bentusi. The Council, reluctantly, agreed. The Hiigarans hoped that they could catch the Bentusi by surprise m and by defeating their Harborship, they would show the Galactic Council that they were not to be trifled with. The Bentusi were interested in the Hiigarans because they had long since hoped to find an Equal among the space faring Races, to be Guardians of Peace and Trade among the Galaxy. So when the Hiigarans found the second Core, the Bentusi had hoped they would rise to become their equal. But with this unfortunate incident, they knew the Hiigarans would not be able to rise above their current status. So they reluctantly agreed to take their core… But when the Hiigarans sprang their trap, they had severely underestimated the Bentusi’s technological and Naval Capabilities…. For Hours The Bentusi Pleaded for the Hiigarans to surrender, but out of blind desperation and unwilling to surrender to the rest of the Galaxy, the Hiigarans continued to fight, until every last ship has been destroyed…. The destruction of the entire Hiigaran Navy had scarred the Bentusi, and they swore they would never again bring their most powerful weapons to bear against a younger Race in Anger again… That is when the Taiidan Attacked. For Weeks the Taiidan invaded Hiigaran Space, blinded by hateful Vengeance, and greedy to pluck all the Defenceless Hiigaran Worlds from the Stars for themselves.. one by one, hundreds of Hiigaran worlds and colonies were taken, or destroyed, their people either enslaved or Slaughtered. Even the Taiidan Controlled Galactic Council begged for them to stop, to show Mercy to the Hiigarans, and begged for the Bentusi to intervene.. But the Bentusi were still haunted by their own massacre of the Hiigaran Navy, and refused to bring arms to bear against the Taiidan. After weeks of slaughter, the Taiidan were finally at the doorstep of the Hiigaran Homeworld. It was there that the Bentusi did eventually convince the Taiidan to spare the last surviving members of the Hiigaran people. The Taiidan offered them a choice. ‘Slavery, Death, or Exile.” The many of Hiigarans chose Exile over Slavery, millions boarding hundreds of vast, sublight transport barges, and many of those whom remained behind were either killed or enslaved. For a thousand years the Hiigaran drifted silently among the stars, where no other race dared to even look upon them for fear of being targeted by the Taiidan.. So many generations lived and died in the cold unforgiving darkness of space, with millions more dying along the way, till eventually only one ship remained, and crashed upon the bleak, dying, desolate planet of Kharak.. This is why the Bentusi were so invested in the Hiigaran race, because they were directly responsible not only for the Total destruction of the Hiigaran Navy, but for their near extinction at the hands of the Taiidan, and their long, sad exile from the light of the Galaxy. They kept their eyes on the Exiles, watching, and hoping that they would one day rise up and return to their place among the Stars. And three thousand years later their patience payed off. The Hiigaran, then Kushan, were slowly returning from Exile to their Homeworld from Exile. They had suffered yet again at the hands of the Taiidan, but with their Far Jump Core, they stood a chance. This is Why the Bentusi helped them in their quest to reclaim their Homeworld, and maybe, just maybe, take their place where the Bentusi had once been, as Protectors of Galactic Peace and Prosperity.
The idea of the 3 legendary "Hyperspace Cores" doesn't make any sense. Tons of ships here have hyperspace capabilities, and it's not just limited to the races that have these cores.
@@All_Mighty672 yes. The species of the galaxy knew how to travel with hyperspace. But the catch is that they will have to jump rather short distances. The energy required to far jump from 1 location to another is tremendous. The hyperspace cores have an energy output rivaling the sun while being buried under the sand and detected from a failing satellite. The cores can generate the energy output required to jump anywhere within the galaxy as long as there is no inhibitors along the way
@@Eradicator-jv9xr If that were the case, the Mothership in HW1 would've been able to jump straight to Hiigara since they had the core. They game's user guide specifically mentions that they need to make short jumps due to lack of power.
@@PathsUnwritten did you NOT know what situation they are in? An interstellat empire is chasing them down and they will destroy the mothership at first sight. (also they need to make the short jumps because they haven't figured a way to actually incorporate the core very well. What do you expect of a civilisation who studied a core for only a century? And is rather primitive compared to the other species?)
@@Eradicator-jv9xr The core used in HW 1 (and thus in HW 2 if they had actually bothered to write a coherent plot) is a replica of the found core which shots down that explanation.
Just went through my archival boxes and found the original Homeworld 2 DVD!! I never really played the game past the opening sequence. I have to relearn it now.
The fact that _Yes_ actually wrote a song especially for this game tells you just how damn special it is. I hadn't actually realized that "Homeworld (the Ladder)" was written _for_ the game, and had originally thought that the game was based on the song, not the other way around. When I realized the truth I was duly amazed.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. We need a in depth TV series depicting the events of homeworld from chronological order. S1 is deserts of Karak at the discovery of the second core, S2 is the building of the mothership and its departure, S3 is the journey to Hiigara and final battle with the Taiidan, S4 is the rebuilding of the Hiigaran empire and the events of homeworld emergence, S5 is the conflict with the Vaygr and the search for the oracle, S6 is the discovery of the gatekeeper, the final battle with Makaan and arriving just in time to save Hiigara with Sajuuk. S7 is homeworld 3. And not some cheaply made and poorly written TV series, something worthy of homeworlds venerable IP. Edit: Typo's
Season 8 will be the producers trying to milk more money out of an IP that they don't really care about any more and they just want another payday from.
When the population of Hiigara popped up I felt more dread than the arrival of the planet killers themselves. I knew what they were gonna say. Fuck it was scary.
It does seem to me that in the time that the Mothership was online, she could have constructed a short jump core, and a number of power generators to at least continue to serve as a mobile Shipyard. Sajuuk’s trinity of cores could carry her along in hyperspace as she carried her fleet… her integrated manufacturing facilities and scientific centres are an invaluable asset that alas, was sent adrift in some unknown Galaxy.
Love the game hated the enemy spawn mechanics. Made having a large fleet pointless. I would retire all my ships before I left for the next mission if I could help it to get around that bullshit.
Well, the entire "culture" of the Kith is influenced of near eastern culture, as was Dune back then. Its just sad that Karan does never "react" on that the Coalition was wrong back on Kharak all the time AND that their enemy was right. They even knew of Sajuuk waaaaay bevor the events of DoK. And now, in HW2, we see why they where scared. It finishes the story that started back on a desert world long ago. Now with the 3rd comming, we are set lose finaly and they can do whatever they want realy.
I love these game movies! I can reminisce without spending 10 hours playing the game myself. Of course, you know I'm here because H3 is coming out in February!
I used two shield frigate cooperatively to retrieve the core, one is for moving forward to the core with the collector, one is for back way when the first frigate's shield power depleted.
Great backgrounds. I like that huge semi-wall thing that's just one big piece of space debris. It really increases the sense of atmosphere and backstory. you have to wonder what that thing used to be. How'd it get there? Who made it, and why?
HW2 "Population of Hiigara" 180 million" HW1 "600,000 colonists in cryo-trays...all that remains of our people." That's a mighty big population increase between the 2 games, all in Karan S'jet's lifetime.
shhh.... dont think about it.. its like with ,wait..''elite fighter crews transferred...with..ther ships ?..ehh ,those couldet been helpful keeping the mothership crew stransports alive ?'' or.. ^^ ''hmm wait..first game state the core found was a withered derelict that was none functional and the one used for the mothership was a replica made down to near atomic lvl as they reverse researched the way to use it from the archaeological site...but bairly scratched the surface of the principles for its function'' ;).. or why all the plot convenient hardware from the titan sized derelicts 'remains' ...is mysteriously in perfect working order etc XD personly i'd say that the ''emergence'' or what is was called expansion for the first game have a more organic and lees contrived plot then homeworld 2... never liked its plot for how it f'd up one of the more simple but explicitly stated facts from the first game :/ say the homeworld 2 plot gets better if you just cut out the cores being 'special'... or say makan looted his none functional but special as 'key' one from the burnt exiles world and the main battles of the game then is about using his factions desire for the other two ones to bleed ther fleet resources and give Hiigara'n allies and ther own system the chance to re-arm and train/build enough fleet assets for both home system protection and an military 'diciplinary' expedition in force to cut out the former empires zealot elites and leet the the more miss guided but reasonable elements return to the 'new' taidan republics folds... with the 'great sajuk' perhaps being a distorted representation of the great trans galaxial titan ships chef engineer from last ditch records left on the cores as they where all they could make with the materials at hand in the titan space ship that the 'beast' hade hidden a spore on and then when in a 'fresh' galaxy crippled the ships engines planning to consume it ,its crews and the galaxy while making a gate from ther schematics that it then activate and return to consume the progenitors own home galaxy etc and the great 'power' spoken of ..not being weapons ,but simply the schematics for a gate design helping to boost 'shortrange' hyperspace capable vessels to make transgalaxy jumps... and the reason for unmanned cores to show fundamental hyperspace travle hardware carrying some inscriptions and residual energy readings working as 'keys' and tests for ther finders to at least try cheek they not where parts of 'the beast' being all they could leave the galaxy they came to establish the gate in...before having to detonate ther own cores to such a critical point not even a hyperspace going object could shield a organic passenger from from the event. as anything lees risk that something of the beast survive... and while chunks of the outer hull of ther vessel survive with automatic drones and backup VI systems that slowly rebuild the ship , or rebuild several identical ones depending on the derelicts fragments trajectories etc...they couldet leave any active protocol for the drones to build any gates ...due to the risk.. all they could do be to lock the schematics for it in a vault with severe self destruct protocols if not opened correctly somewhere in a chunk of the ship likely to survive the main vessels self destruction. and toss the cores out for galaxy natives to find and have a chance to both bring them while they still hade charge left to project ther energy 'key' singatures so someone have a chance to activate the Vault VI system and show they not where beast and worthy of the gate schematics to build one ,and leet the progenitors home galaxy know the tragic fate of ther expedition ship..but also the good news a galaxy of potential allies and resources to trade for or even be given in an effort to purge the beast plague from other galaxies now where connected to ther gate network.
@@Stellar001100 a good potential 'realistic' source... or at least taidan immigrants from what once was original hiiagaran worlds ,since i guess even with a wide spread upprising having been brewing for generations the hiiagarans be a bit cautious..but it would be an organic solution both to the political landscape of the first game , and to ther own situation.. aka , the old taidan empire gets split up ,lees powerful so neighbours feel lees agitated but its still able to feel it can defend its populations ,and by reforming to a republic it heal a lot of internal wounds and motivate at least parts of the military that took part in the mass uprising to return into a reformed command structure. while the hiiagarans on the other hand by aceeping what once was worlds in ther ancestors own empire to join them as a reformed nation they can leet ther original population focuse on ther home world while at the same time have the manpower and buffert teritory to endure and fight back remnant empire loyalist or renegade raiders and the like from dealing any crippling blow to the meagre civilian population they have left. yes...a large 'immigrant' population both suit the situation and explain the population increase.
@@Amoth_oth_ras_shash In the Homeworld backstory, the Taiidan Empire moved their capital planet to Hiigara after exiling the ancient Hiigarans. Pretty sure there were millions of Taiidan inhabitants on the Hiigaran homeworld at the end of the game.
@@Stellar001100 would have to be...even if they limited it to what the planet could sustain on its own... dident the ending of the first game say something about the population on the hiiagaran origin world after you win ? and i am basicly just going by first game cinematics and original game manul first and later sources only aslong they fit to that 'fundation' ;)
how they made the jump from salvage corvetts to marine frigate ill never no yea there more balanced but dang there nothing on the mighty salvage corvette
All that story about the trinity of cores.... yet the Nagarok managed to do BETTER with LESS cores(also called ZERO), was FASTER than any ship ever created and most likely had better armament. Imagine finding THAT empire who build the Nagarok after all this time. They wont share power and would claim "them 3 cores where byproducts and useless for us"
Watching homeworld 3... there was alot... alot missing... the ending of HW2 does not match HW3... where is the ship?.... what happen? why does the character have big as noes...
Tbh, Sajuuk was a bit of a disappointment. The thing would get wrecked by Battlecruisers and it's only real purpose was the world destroyers in the last mission.
HW2 feels so underwhelming at the beginning. We had a bad ass fleet at the end of HW1... and now we struggle with few fighters at the begining of HW2... you what?
The Bentusi represent the classical Greeks. The Progenitors represent the Roman Empire. Makaan represent Genghis Khan and the Vaygr their countless hordes. The Taiidan represent the British Empire and the Kushans represent their colonies. Hiigara is America and Kharak is Australia.
The one thing that I hate about this game is that unlike the first game when It gives me the power to explore and even mine the entire asteroid field, in here it doesn't and I really2x want those.
I know, and with little excuse even. At least Deserts of Kharak, which had the same problem, had the logic of Gaalsien raids and the pressures of the deep desert to be believable.
Why in the world do they have to go and make it 4000 years between the discovery of the first core and the second? It looks as if the technology has completely stagnated in all that time! What was everyone doing in all that time? Is there something in the back story to explain all this?
Sometimes technology only gets so good, and the development of new means of harnessing power is locked behind boundaries too fast for Younger beings to comprehend. Not even the Bentusi knew all about the Progenitors, and not even the Progenitors were the most powerful.
This is what i expected from Homeworld 3. The awe and the awesome story telling. And what did we get? A boring cookie-cutter story that was just awful. No deeper dive into the lore. Just a flat and boring shell of it former self. What a shame.
A good game in its own right, but to be brutally honest, it sure is the worst of all the Homeworld installments so far, in terms of gameplay changes and the quality and logic of the story. Good thing Deserts of Kharak is a saving grace whilst the reexamining of Cataclysm/Emergence and the existence of the Remastered Collection (combined with the Players Patch) kept the love of Homeworld alive up to this point. May HW3 not fall into the same trap as HW2 did.
After playing through Deserts of Kharak, Homeworld 1, Homeworld Emergence/Cataclysm and Homeworld 2 (in that order) for the first time, I thought 2 was a huuuuuge let down in every possible way. Music, lore, missions, all of it was lesser than the previous games. The worst Homeworld game by far imo. And the story is truly, utterly shit and made me like the setting far, far less than I did before.
Gotta agree. While I did like the visuals at the time, I always thought the story of HW2 was childish and ridiculous. All that prophecy mumbo jumbo did not fit with the lore of HW1 and degraded HW2 from plausible sci-fi to pure space fantasy.
@@Eradicator-jv9xr demonstrably false. You can use Cheat Engine (Takes some skill, but can be learned), or you can simply use RU Injections mode built into the game. Still won't prevent the AI from being decent, but does at least let you somewhat react to them and learn
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I found Home World by accident in the early 2000's. It was on sale cheap and I remember the pkg. saying "1999 Game of the Year". I didn't know what I had found. I wasn't a "Gamer", I'm still not truthfully, but I do game! Yeah, I remember spending 6 hours getting through one level. I remember starting the game after work on a Friday and watching the sun come up on Saturday, still playing. I got wrapped up in these games and it was awesome! I still love these games and just hope that 3 does justice to the franchise.
I hope that too
I hope that the 3rd game will have more context, HW2 was great but boy was i confused, having played HW1 and HW2 consecutively without reading the manual for lore.
HW2 was the first homeworld I played, memories.
3:39 this music is awesome
There are other space RTS games (eg O.R.B.) but _none_ like Homeworld.
I would love an actual Honeworld movie. Imagine this music and atmosphere on a big screen. Phenomenal!
It is called Battlestar Galactica.
@@schwarzerritter5724 As good as BSG is, Homeworld’s story is way more epic (in my opinion).
@@welshie6313way more epic and better and deeper
I don't think it would translate well. It's not a character-driven story/universe
@@Solaxe neither is Battlestar Galactica. This would be much better than BG though, much better lore and story and cooler ships. And there would be no gays because the frozen colonists must all be heterosexual for the future survival of the race. So Netflix or Amazon could never make it. It would be amazing.
This was a good game, though the first one was astounding. The one thing I thought was silly is how the narrative changes from "the higaraans trekked across the galaxy to go back to their home" to "Karen S'jet is the most awesome thing in the universe and she led them by herself back to their homeworld" and it seems HW 3 is also deifying S'jet, as opposed to her people.
The Homeworld series will forever and allways have a huge place in my heart
If you’ll notice, there are six transports that carry the Crew of the mothership. In the original game, there were six cryo- trays, carrying colonists.
You're supposed to let a couple of them get taken out, makes the story more dramatic
Lol why? You already lost Kharak. Natural response is to save what's left not let them die. I lost some early scout fighters saving 300,000 souls in cryostasis. Every sacrifice builds the foundation for Kushans/The exiles to reach Higara. There sacrifices will not be in vain (except when in Cataclysm Kithid classism got worse).
@@werty1160 it was a joke. Learn to laugh a little
@@edbunkers4516 have you considered your joke is dogshit?
It's like poetry, it rhymes.
homeworld has one of the coolest SF stories
The music was so awesome, it sets the mood so perfectly.
Also the fact that the game was always setting up enemy strength relative to yours, so whether you built a lot of ships or not, you always had the perfect difficulty level.
This was especially cool when you modified the savegame (essentially just a JSON file) and gave yourself several Dreadnoughts, 100 Keepers (!) and Sajuuk - the enemy would just throw hundreds of ships at you in this case. Battles for the ages, still motivating even after playing through the missions several times.
Its literally the WORST game mechanic in any game. And almost the entire gaming community agrees
@@squattingheads It really depends on the game. Is it really fun when you mess up in level 2 so you get stuck in level 16 because your fleet lacks a few ships? Is it also fun if you play perfectly and just breeze through the levels? Let's agree to disagree here.
"At 32:00, you discover that your people were once like the enemies you are now trying to combat. (A way for the Bentusi to say 'don't repeat the mistakes of the past, you weren't as good as you think you were...')". Read the story of the angel moon war to understand.
When I found out that Homeworld 3 was in development, I was simply thrilled. When news came out that it might be released in 2024, I closed my eyes and remembered 'Adagio for Strings'. Some time later, a specific date of March 8, 2024, was announced, and then I glanced at the calendar and counted down the days until the end of 2023 so that psychological barrier was crossed. I felt a thrill of excitement. By the end of February 2024, I had watched and read all available materials, and my pre-ordered copy looked at me every time I started up the system. The excitement grew day by day, until anger appeared. Then I began to fall asleep listening to the soundtrack from Homeworld 2, because I remembered it always calmed me down. In the meantime, slowly and meticulously, I am once again in the middle of this beautiful story, enjoying the Remaster.
As I send this message into the void of the universe, the meeting with Imogen will take place in exactly 18 days, 8 hours, 4 minutes, 57 seconds. Should I propose to her right away, or should I invite her to dinner first?
This is Fleet Command. The answer is yes.
welp, hope you weren't disappointed
First, pay for her surgery to fix that chin. Oh, and do a dong-check. Make sure you don't call her "crazy"! 😂😂😂
1:55:30 is the most terrifying moment in this whole series. seeing the planet killers descend on the planet you worked so hard to get to in the first game along with defending it against makaan all for these ships to arrive that can easily destroy it all in mere moments is horrifying to me
The Kushan and how Hiigaran's have to endure the annihilation of their planet for a second time as they're helpless to save themselves.
this is the cahl shto. we have brought reinforcements from hiigara. COME TO US
like what happened in B5s Battle of the Line
Cataclysm Was the best
@@WielkiElektron "One ancient monster's as good as another!"
"We... are not... monsters..."
"Aren't you? look around, look at what you did to our fleet! All because we dared to get in your way! Look at you, the aloof, the mighty Bentusi! Slaughtering the people who asked for your help! You're WORSE than the Beast. AT LEAST THE BEAST DOESN'T PRETEND TO BE RIGHTEOUS!"
1. Thanks for this, it was a blast watching the world of Homeworld play out. From the start where Rachel S'jet was sitting on that sand dune on Kharak all the way to Karan S'jet preverbally watching over the entire galaxy at the end of 2, was a real great Space Opera.
2. I now understand why a lot of people are not that much of a fan of the plot of HW2 lol. The overall plot of HW2 feels like its from a different franchise and there are a lot of plot elements missing from the game that make me believe the game was rushed, an example being the Bentusi. Like, what do you mean "the last of the Bentusi"? Are they all dead? Was Bentus the last Bentusi in the galaxy while the rest fled to another due to The Beast? So many questions left unanswered.
3. Thank you again for this!
2 completely removes everything that happens in Cataclysm aswell
I am a big fan of the original Homeworld and Cataclysm. And yes I dislike HW2 story line...
Not even trying to pick on the details, the first impression to me is that this is just a replay of HW1 with a strange remix of events. The whole feeling is basically that we start with a small journey, coming back to a shattered home, on journey to find something (Hiigara - Sajuuk), detour to figure out mysteries, then big ending. Many of the plot makes me feel I am playing HW1 just with a different set of objects.
Outside of story line, I find the HW2 system a worse mixture of HW1's plain and simple with Cataclysm's detailed and flexible. It makes things complicate, but without adding versatilities. I would just get rid of all the modules building, just to begin with.
The only thing I really like about HW2 is the upgrade in visuals.
@@CCL13CN I will say that its music is real good too.
read dust wars. Homeworld 2 was rushed and remade coz of sierra close death. Still Relic decided to keep some things canon and rectonned first game a bit in HOM DOK.
Accept the beast isn't cannon, but in my head, that was the answer.
00:00 - Intro cutscene
05:12 - Mission 01: Tanis Base - Great Wastelands
08:37 - Mission 01: Vaygr appearance
13:47 - Cutscene 01-02: Tanis base destroyed
14:36 - Mission 02: Bishop Intro
15:19 - Mission 02: Hiigara - Homeworld System
18:40 - Mission 02: Captain Soban of the fleet Ferin Sha arriving
23:50 - Cutscene 02-03: Children of Haigara...
25:08 - Mission 03: Sarum - Fleet Staging Area
30:50 - Mission 03: The Great Harbour Ship of Bentus arrives
33:43 - Cutscene 03-04: Who is Mr.Sajuuk
35:56 - Mission 04: Outskirts of Gehenna System
38:00 - Mission 04: Hyperdriving closer to the station
39:55 - Cutscene 04-05: Locating the Oracle
40:22 - Mission 05: Gehenna
47:28 - Cutscene 05-06: The Oracle takes over the Hypersystems
48:00 - Mission 06: Karos presentation
49:08 - Mission 06: Karos Graveyard
50:18 - Mission 06: Mover presentation
51:03 - Mission 06: First Oracle-controlled jump
51:53 - Mission 06: Mothership exits out of the hyperspace
53:55 - Mission 06: Second Oracle-controlled jump
54:13 - Mission 06: Mothership exits out of the hyperspace
55:47 - Cutscene 06-07: Progenitor Mothership
56:33 - Mission 07: Progenitor Foundry
1:03:19 - Cutscene 07-08: Progenitors are not from this galaxy
1:04:22 - Mission 08: Dreadnaught Berth
1:13:46 - Cutscene 08-09: Makaan has the second Dreadnaught
1:14:44 - Mission 09: Vaygr Assembly Point - Shining Hinterlands
1:17:19 - Mission 09: Captain Elohim arrives with a shipyard
1:20:00 - Mission 09: Captain Soban arrives to be captured
1:21:25 - Cutscene 09-10: Captain Soban survives interrogation
1:21:43 - Mission 10: Great Wastelands - En route to Thaddis Sabbah
1:23:43 - Mission 10: The Great Harbour Ship of Bentus arrives
1:26:05 - Mission 10: Bentusi selfdestruction
1:27:33 - Cutscene 10-11: Vaygr detected Bentusi blast
1:28:21 - Mission 11: Bentusi Ruins
1:33:18 - Cutscene 11-12: Saving captain Soban
1:33:49 - Mission 12: Vaygr Outpost Thaddis Sabbah
1:39:12 - Cutscene 12-13: Makaan has fled to the Gate of Balcora
1:39:46 - Mission 13: Makaan enters the Gate of Balcora
1:40:40 - Mission 13: Balcora Gate
1:44:44 - Cutscene 13-14: Makaan has forseen all of this
1:45:14 - Mission 14: Balcora
1:51:10 - Mission 14: Uniting the Cores
1:52:22 - Cutscene 14-15: The Trinity is Stable
1:54:19 - Mission 15: Hiigara - Under Siege
1:59:52 - Outro cutscene
Oh man, I've missed HW's goosebumps... It is just that good. I honestly hope HW3 lives up to the expectations and have amazing OST and story and gives me the goosebumps I need. The planet killers arrival is still such a goosebumps-inducing part.
VICIOUS GIRL
It was a great game back in the day. Some fan community made maps and an encyclopedia with all the worlds and clans. Long after also played Sands of Kharak, good stuff in the lore.
Great to see this again. One of the most atmospheric games of its era 👍
My son Gifted me Homeworld, played many hours, NEVER finished..Holy cow my Computer never could keep up
Your son cares for and loves you. That's why he gave it to you.
When destroying enemy capital ships, immediately move your smaller units away before they explode. They do cause explosive damage to nearby vessels upon destruction.
ive never played homeworld but have been interested in it recently. While watching i noticed this and wondered why he didnt pull them back lol. I almost thought i was imaging things
The best ever space 3d strategy. The quality of all aspects was top notch. Its a must have, treasure for any old time strategy gamers
I would've loved to have gotten the perspective of the Vaygr fleet attacking Hiigara when Sajuuk and the rest of your Fleet jumps in.
Fun Fact: It's possible to yoink Makaan's Dreadnaught and add it to your Fleet.
Did exactly that. Surprised most didn't. Thought I'd they didn't experience the original Homeworld, that might explain why.
@@TheGoddamnBaconI mean most large ships you marine frigated just gets disabled .You wouldn't expect a dreadnought to be able to be captured
Those discord notification sounds tho
omg... i saw this movie about a year ago and never thought at that time i would ever see the game in a mobile version... Cataclysm was my introduction to the game 22 or so years ago, it took me a long time to even realize the game was called Homeworld: Cataclysm... the story was amazing and sent chills down my spine at certain points, amazing graphics and the 3d were truly a breath of fresh air after playing so many other games that just became repetitious after a time with the sprite 2d formats, i am still amazed and can't wait to see what lies in store for me in the mobile version... thank you all for a truly memorable and remarkable experience !!!!! i will hafta to dust off the old pc with Win98 so i can do it all over again...
I feel like one of the primary reasons they made Cataclysm non-canon to this is because the Kuun-Lan and her fleet would've just steamrolled Makaan the instant he showed up (and definitely not because they lost Cataclysm's source code. That'd be crazy).
Cataclysm is still canon.
@@WalkopSo say we all.
How to make Sajuuk seem less anticlimactic...
Triple Sajuuk's size, make it 1 shot the bombardment platforms but turn so slow that it takes time to align phased cannon.
A super weapon shouldn't take multiple volleys to destroy something.
To the hiigarans and other superpowers and people of Homeworld, it is but to the progenitors, it's just a key along with Sajuuk ship that opened the eye of aaran
Unanswered question of this game: How did the Vaygr find another Dreadnaught and tons of other Progenitor technology yet, weren't being attacked by the Keepers? This one fact makes zero sense.
It was still a great game though. ❤
scrapper's found it in deep space during the Mid game story - Homeworld: Cataclysm
@@creatorsfreedom6734 I remeber that. not a lot of people have payed catalcysm. good game
Propably the same way as Bentusi found their core at first time and Hiigarans after., wothout contact with Keepers. Remember that Karan used data provided by Oracle to find a Dreadnaught in aft/shipyard section of the Progenitor Mothership, which some sections seemed operational like Lighthouse. Maybe Makaan aquired his own by finding abandoned and unprotected one in deep far east Vaygr reaches, free from the Keepers.
@@KiithSomtaaw_ The planet-killers are of Bentusi design, no? Maybe they were helping both sides so that the winner could take their place.
@@EndlessInfinity1
Talking about Vaygr and Bentusi affairs, I don't think so. Bentusi saw Makaan rather as Hiigarans before Exile. Also Bentus were in debt to Karan for saving their unbound asses at Tenhauser Gates. Planet Killers imho rather are some sort of reverse engineered progenitor constructs (even with traces of Bentusi technology) or concept from both original games race T-MAT.
3:12 I wish they would match the core sizes in the remaster too. That was such a cool transition in the original.
It's been a while but I remember the first time I came across the game and I was so fascinated then and still am now. Best story ever, l hope they do a movie so day.
Oops some day.
This is the first time I noticed the explosions of the carrier can kill your fighters
The thing I've not got my head around is why the Bentusi were so interested in the Hiigarans? I know they got a really shitty deal at the collapse of their last empire, but they were warmongerers, and even tried to steal a core from the Bentusi in an ambush. So why sacrifice themselves for a people who were so deceitful and warlike given the Bentusi's crusade for galactic peace? Great video by the way. This game was incredible
The idea is the exile has humbled them so that they will not repeat their past mistakes. The Bentusi were on a decline for a while and knew their time as keepers of the galaxy was at an end. The Hiigarans would be their successors.
Agreed. The exiles paid their penance, hopefully now more peaceful after witnessing so much blood and with much more wisdom, they are to bear the duty of peace keepers like the bentusi did before them. The bentusi are unbound, so one with their ship, and they use progenitors tech. The exiles have an unbound fleet commander, and now they have the litteral manifestation of a God into the real world, Sajuk. So in a way, they are now whay the bentusi have been for ages
Lore dump incoming. (it’s not a Wiki copy-paste, I typed this from memory from the original Lore Book.)
The Hiigarans weren’t Warmongers, nor did they try to steal the Bentusi Core.
The Taiidan had Bribed, Cheated and Assassinated members of the Galactic Council into forcing the Hiigarans to forfeit dozens of their Outer Workds and Colonies, and enslaved any who refused to leave them, in addition to surrendering a 30 Lightyear exclusion zone along their entire Border with the Taiidan. The Hiigarans were powerless to stop them.
It was later that the Hiigarans found the second Far Jump Core, and built up their Navy around a new Flagship, the Sajuuk’s Wrath. With it they jumped their entire Fleet past the heavily fortified Exclusion Zone to strike the Taiidan Capital, where They defeated the Imperial Guard Fleet and bombarded the Imperial Palace. After which they returned directly to Hiigara.
They had hoped this would convince the Galactic Council to return the Hiigaran Worlds to them, but instead The Council Demanded that the Hiigaran immediately Dissarm their Navy and abandon their entire Fleet in the Exclusion Zone, and to surrender the Far Jump Core to the Council. The Hiigarans knew that disarming their Fleet would leave them completely defenseless against the Taiidan, who would eventually reorganize and demand Blood, and that Surrendering the Core to the Galactic Council would effectively be surrendering it to the Taiidan.
But the Hiigarans also did not want to wage war with the entire Galaxy, which is why they hatched a Plot.
The Bentusi were the most powerful force in the Galaxy, and the only other Race to have Far Jump technology, and the Hiigarans knew that the whole Galaxy, including themselves, looked up to them. So they claimed that they would Dissarm their Fleet, but they would only surrender their Core to the Bentusi. The Council, reluctantly, agreed. The Hiigarans hoped that they could catch the Bentusi by surprise m and by defeating their Harborship, they would show the Galactic Council that they were not to be trifled with.
The Bentusi were interested in the Hiigarans because they had long since hoped to find an Equal among the space faring Races, to be Guardians of Peace and Trade among the Galaxy. So when the Hiigarans found the second Core, the Bentusi had hoped they would rise to become their equal. But with this unfortunate incident, they knew the Hiigarans would not be able to rise above their current status. So they reluctantly agreed to take their core… But when the Hiigarans sprang their trap, they had severely underestimated the Bentusi’s technological and Naval Capabilities….
For Hours The Bentusi Pleaded for the Hiigarans to surrender, but out of blind desperation and unwilling to surrender to the rest of the Galaxy, the Hiigarans continued to fight, until every last ship has been destroyed….
The destruction of the entire Hiigaran Navy had scarred the Bentusi, and they swore they would never again bring their most powerful weapons to bear against a younger Race in Anger again… That is when the Taiidan Attacked.
For Weeks the Taiidan invaded Hiigaran Space, blinded by hateful Vengeance, and greedy to pluck all the Defenceless Hiigaran Worlds from the Stars for themselves.. one by one, hundreds of Hiigaran worlds and colonies were taken, or destroyed, their people either enslaved or Slaughtered. Even the Taiidan Controlled Galactic Council begged for them to stop, to show Mercy to the Hiigarans, and begged for the Bentusi to intervene..
But the Bentusi were still haunted by their own massacre of the Hiigaran Navy, and refused to bring arms to bear against the Taiidan.
After weeks of slaughter, the Taiidan were finally at the doorstep of the Hiigaran Homeworld. It was there that the Bentusi did eventually convince the Taiidan to spare the last surviving members of the Hiigaran people. The Taiidan offered them a choice. ‘Slavery, Death, or Exile.”
The many of Hiigarans chose Exile over Slavery, millions boarding hundreds of vast, sublight transport barges, and many of those whom remained behind were either killed or enslaved.
For a thousand years the Hiigaran drifted silently among the stars, where no other race dared to even look upon them for fear of being targeted by the Taiidan.. So many generations lived and died in the cold unforgiving darkness of space, with millions more dying along the way, till eventually only one ship remained, and crashed upon the bleak, dying, desolate planet of Kharak..
This is why the Bentusi were so invested in the Hiigaran race, because they were directly responsible not only for the Total destruction of the Hiigaran Navy, but for their near extinction at the hands of the Taiidan, and their long, sad exile from the light of the Galaxy.
They kept their eyes on the Exiles, watching, and hoping that they would one day rise up and return to their place among the Stars.
And three thousand years later their patience payed off. The Hiigaran, then Kushan, were slowly returning from Exile to their Homeworld from Exile. They had suffered yet again at the hands of the Taiidan, but with their Far Jump Core, they stood a chance. This is Why the Bentusi helped them in their quest to reclaim their Homeworld, and maybe, just maybe, take their place where the Bentusi had once been, as Protectors of Galactic Peace and Prosperity.
because its a thoughtless retcon that makes no sense
I love how video games have better and more original story lines than Hollywood.
From over 25 years ago to boot.
The idea of the 3 legendary "Hyperspace Cores" doesn't make any sense. Tons of ships here have hyperspace capabilities, and it's not just limited to the races that have these cores.
Yeah that part always confused me too, i don’t know any of the lore but maybe they are unique Hyperspace cores in some way.
@@All_Mighty672 yes. The species of the galaxy knew how to travel with hyperspace. But the catch is that they will have to jump rather short distances. The energy required to far jump from 1 location to another is tremendous. The hyperspace cores have an energy output rivaling the sun while being buried under the sand and detected from a failing satellite. The cores can generate the energy output required to jump anywhere within the galaxy as long as there is no inhibitors along the way
@@Eradicator-jv9xr If that were the case, the Mothership in HW1 would've been able to jump straight to Hiigara since they had the core. They game's user guide specifically mentions that they need to make short jumps due to lack of power.
@@PathsUnwritten did you NOT know what situation they are in? An interstellat empire is chasing them down and they will destroy the mothership at first sight.
(also they need to make the short jumps because they haven't figured a way to actually incorporate the core very well. What do you expect of a civilisation who studied a core for only a century? And is rather primitive compared to the other species?)
@@Eradicator-jv9xr The core used in HW 1 (and thus in HW 2 if they had actually bothered to write a coherent plot) is a replica of the found core which shots down that explanation.
Just went through my archival boxes and found the original Homeworld 2 DVD!! I never really played the game past the opening sequence. I have to relearn it now.
One of the best games out there!!
The Homeworld franchise is one of the best. They should make Honeworld movies like they did with HALO. 😂
The fact that _Yes_ actually wrote a song especially for this game tells you just how damn special it is. I hadn't actually realized that "Homeworld (the Ladder)" was written _for_ the game, and had originally thought that the game was based on the song, not the other way around. When I realized the truth I was duly amazed.
best games i ever played.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. We need a in depth TV series depicting the events of homeworld from chronological order. S1 is deserts of Karak at the discovery of the second core, S2 is the building of the mothership and its departure, S3 is the journey to Hiigara and final battle with the Taiidan, S4 is the rebuilding of the Hiigaran empire and the events of homeworld emergence, S5 is the conflict with the Vaygr and the search for the oracle, S6 is the discovery of the gatekeeper, the final battle with Makaan and arriving just in time to save Hiigara with Sajuuk. S7 is homeworld 3.
And not some cheaply made and poorly written TV series, something worthy of homeworlds venerable IP.
Edit: Typo's
So True!
Season 8 will be the producers trying to milk more money out of an IP that they don't really care about any more and they just want another payday from.
Wouw, thanks for sharing this.
This game blew my socks off back when games were released complete on trusty cd
It's a really dick move to not retain the original voice of Home World 2 and override with Home World 1.
I remember trying this game because it reminds me of Earth and Beyond. Good times.
When the population of Hiigara popped up I felt more dread than the arrival of the planet killers themselves. I knew what they were gonna say. Fuck it was scary.
It does seem to me that in the time that the Mothership was online, she could have constructed a short jump core, and a number of power generators to at least continue to serve as a mobile Shipyard. Sajuuk’s trinity of cores could carry her along in hyperspace as she carried her fleet… her integrated manufacturing facilities and scientific centres are an invaluable asset that alas, was sent adrift in some unknown Galaxy.
Still one of the best games ever. I've never beaten this or Homeworld 1. I don't like to beat games as I stop playing them when I do.
Love the game hated the enemy spawn mechanics. Made having a large fleet pointless. I would retire all my ships before I left for the next mission if I could help it to get around that bullshit.
Still an amazing game to play I captured so many large capital ships and wiped out enemy easy lol
Legend
In so many ways
interesting. While dune uses Sardukar, homeworld uses Sajuuk-khar for shipmaster.
Well, the entire "culture" of the Kith is influenced of near eastern culture, as was Dune back then. Its just sad that Karan does never "react" on that the Coalition was wrong back on Kharak all the time AND that their enemy was right. They even knew of Sajuuk waaaaay bevor the events of DoK. And now, in HW2, we see why they where scared. It finishes the story that started back on a desert world long ago. Now with the 3rd comming, we are set lose finaly and they can do whatever they want realy.
I love these game movies! I can reminisce without spending 10 hours playing the game myself.
Of course, you know I'm here because H3 is coming out in February!
ahhhhhh i have missed this game. Roll on HW3.
I used two shield frigate cooperatively to retrieve the core, one is for moving forward to the core with the collector, one is for back way when the first frigate's shield power depleted.
Such an amazing game
Pulled me out of Q2, AoE
3d ftw well done
Great 👍
Great backgrounds. I like that huge semi-wall thing that's just one big piece of space debris. It really increases the sense of atmosphere and backstory. you have to wonder what that thing used to be. How'd it get there? Who made it, and why?
I loved this game still got the cd lol didnt know about this movie though
Wonderful game.
HW2 "Population of Hiigara" 180 million"
HW1 "600,000 colonists in cryo-trays...all that remains of our people."
That's a mighty big population increase between the 2 games, all in Karan S'jet's lifetime.
shhh.... dont think about it..
its like with ,wait..''elite fighter crews transferred...with..ther ships ?..ehh ,those couldet been helpful keeping the mothership crew stransports alive ?''
or.. ^^ ''hmm wait..first game state the core found was a withered derelict that was none functional and the one used for the mothership was a replica made down to near atomic lvl as they reverse researched the way to use it from the archaeological site...but bairly scratched the surface of the principles for its function'' ;)..
or why all the plot convenient hardware from the titan sized derelicts 'remains' ...is mysteriously in perfect working order etc XD
personly i'd say that the ''emergence'' or what is was called expansion for the first game have a more organic and lees contrived plot then homeworld 2... never liked its plot for how it f'd up one of the more simple but explicitly stated facts from the first game :/
say the homeworld 2 plot gets better if you just cut out the cores being 'special'... or say makan looted his none functional but special as 'key' one from the burnt exiles world and the main battles of the game then is about using his factions desire for the other two ones to bleed ther fleet resources and give Hiigara'n allies and ther own system the chance to re-arm and train/build enough fleet assets for both home system protection and an military 'diciplinary' expedition in force to cut out the former empires zealot elites and leet the the more miss guided but reasonable elements return to the 'new' taidan republics folds...
with the 'great sajuk' perhaps being a distorted representation of the great trans galaxial titan ships chef engineer from last ditch records left on the cores as they where all they could make with the materials at hand in the titan space ship that the 'beast' hade hidden a spore on and then when in a 'fresh' galaxy crippled the ships engines planning to consume it ,its crews and the galaxy while making a gate from ther schematics that it then activate and return to consume the progenitors own home galaxy etc and the great 'power' spoken of ..not being weapons ,but simply the schematics for a gate design helping to boost 'shortrange' hyperspace capable vessels to make transgalaxy jumps...
and the reason for unmanned cores to show fundamental hyperspace travle hardware carrying some inscriptions and residual energy readings working as 'keys' and tests for ther finders to at least try cheek they not where parts of 'the beast' being all they could leave the galaxy they came to establish the gate in...before having to detonate ther own cores to such a critical point not even a hyperspace going object could shield a organic passenger from from the event.
as anything lees risk that something of the beast survive... and while chunks of the outer hull of ther vessel survive with automatic drones and backup VI systems that slowly rebuild the ship , or rebuild several identical ones depending on the derelicts fragments trajectories etc...they couldet leave any active protocol for the drones to build any gates ...due to the risk.. all they could do be to lock the schematics for it in a vault with severe self destruct protocols if not opened correctly somewhere in a chunk of the ship likely to survive the main vessels self destruction.
and toss the cores out for galaxy natives to find and have a chance to both bring them while they still hade charge left to project ther energy 'key' singatures so someone have a chance to activate the Vault VI system and show they not where beast and worthy of the gate schematics to build one ,and leet the progenitors home galaxy know the tragic fate of ther expedition ship..but also the good news a galaxy of potential allies and resources to trade for or even be given in an effort to purge the beast plague from other galaxies now where connected to ther gate network.
I'd assume that most of those numbers were Taiidan immigrants.
@@Stellar001100 a good potential 'realistic' source... or at least taidan immigrants from what once was original hiiagaran worlds ,since i guess even with a wide spread upprising having been brewing for generations the hiiagarans be a bit cautious..but it would be an organic solution both to the political landscape of the first game , and to ther own situation..
aka , the old taidan empire gets split up ,lees powerful so neighbours feel lees agitated but its still able to feel it can defend its populations ,and by reforming to a republic it heal a lot of internal wounds and motivate at least parts of the military that took part in the mass uprising to return into a reformed command structure.
while the hiiagarans on the other hand by aceeping what once was worlds in ther ancestors own empire to join them as a reformed nation they can leet ther original population focuse on ther home world while at the same time have the manpower and buffert teritory to endure and fight back remnant empire loyalist or renegade raiders and the like from dealing any crippling blow to the meagre civilian population they have left.
yes...a large 'immigrant' population both suit the situation and explain the population increase.
@@Amoth_oth_ras_shash In the Homeworld backstory, the Taiidan Empire moved their capital planet to Hiigara after exiling the ancient Hiigarans. Pretty sure there were millions of Taiidan inhabitants on the Hiigaran homeworld at the end of the game.
@@Stellar001100 would have to be...even if they limited it to what the planet could sustain on its own...
dident the ending of the first game say something about the population on the hiiagaran origin world after you win ?
and i am basicly just going by first game cinematics and original game manul first and later sources only aslong they fit to that 'fundation' ;)
HW2 was a beautiful but oh so flawed game.
Cool
We need a good, high budget, HBO or Netflix series based on this saga
Once I felt that way but after so many blundered adaptations I feel like it would be better not.
a part of me wants that but id rather there be a 2006 movie with a few actors and appropiate CGI at the time would be best with the best soundtrack
It WOULD be a Karan that leads us around. "Take me too your manager!!!"
how they made the jump from salvage corvetts to marine frigate ill never no yea there more balanced but dang there nothing on the mighty salvage corvette
Good voice over.
Finally HW3 release next year!
4000 year's ! Khannnnnnn ! Er Mackhannnn !
1:51:17 I'M NOT CRYING
3:39 awesome music wat a
I lost my mind when I first made Ion ship
Is it possible to capture Makaan's Dreadnaught with our marine frigates?
1:51:17
I'm not crying!
It's you crying!!!
Bring Sajuuk to bear. Got goosebumps.
明年就要出家园3了，真没想到有生之年能看到第3部
During Sajuk mission, I tried to capture the enemy dreadnaught, sadly you can't. seems scripted. :(. Same with makans flagship.
❤❤
All that story about the trinity of cores.... yet the Nagarok managed to do BETTER with LESS cores(also called ZERO), was FASTER than any ship ever created and most likely had better armament. Imagine finding THAT empire who build the Nagarok after all this time. They wont share power and would claim "them 3 cores where byproducts and useless for us"
Watching homeworld 3... there was alot... alot missing... the ending of HW2 does not match HW3... where is the ship?.... what happen? why does the character have big as noes...
It’s such a bad plot omg it looks like they dismantled the dreanuaght and attached the weapon to the mothership
Someone likes drawing machinery.
lol @ Discord sound at 1:53:23
Tbh, Sajuuk was a bit of a disappointment. The thing would get wrecked by Battlecruisers and it's only real purpose was the world destroyers in the last mission.
HW2 feels so underwhelming at the beginning. We had a bad ass fleet at the end of HW1... and now we struggle with few fighters at the begining of HW2... you what?
The Bentusi represent the classical Greeks. The Progenitors represent the Roman Empire. Makaan represent Genghis Khan and the Vaygr their countless hordes. The Taiidan represent the British Empire and the Kushans represent their colonies. Hiigara is America and Kharak is Australia.
Kharak is Australia had me dying.
I only just now realized, there's a lot of bible references in this series.
1:06:12 *sweats nervously…*
1:06:15 *sweats profusely…*
1:06:17 *drops a whole log in his pants…*
The one thing that I hate about this game is that unlike the first game when It gives me the power to explore and even mine the entire asteroid field, in here it doesn't and I really2x want those.
I know, and with little excuse even. At least Deserts of Kharak, which had the same problem, had the logic of Gaalsien raids and the pressures of the deep desert to be believable.
awesome game
Isn't this just a playthrough? Why call it a movie? :P
Bring Sajuuk to bear.
Why in the world do they have to go and make it 4000 years between the discovery of the first core and the second? It looks as if the technology has completely stagnated in all that time! What was everyone doing in all that time? Is there something in the back story to explain all this?
Sometimes technology only gets so good, and the development of new means of harnessing power is locked behind boundaries too fast for Younger beings to comprehend. Not even the Bentusi knew all about the Progenitors, and not even the Progenitors were the most powerful.
Only 180 milion people on a planet.
if this became an MMO its gonna rival eve online.
As much as I'm not a fan of the story in this game I must say that Keepers are without a doubt the coolest ships in the entire series!
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This is what i expected from Homeworld 3. The awe and the awesome story telling. And what did we get? A boring cookie-cutter story that was just awful. No deeper dive into the lore. Just a flat and boring shell of it former self. What a shame.
A good game in its own right, but to be brutally honest, it sure is the worst of all the Homeworld installments so far, in terms of gameplay changes and the quality and logic of the story.
Good thing Deserts of Kharak is a saving grace whilst the reexamining of Cataclysm/Emergence and the existence of the Remastered Collection (combined with the Players Patch) kept the love of Homeworld alive up to this point. May HW3 not fall into the same trap as HW2 did.
What I got from this is space arabs
After playing through Deserts of Kharak, Homeworld 1, Homeworld Emergence/Cataclysm and Homeworld 2 (in that order) for the first time, I thought 2 was a huuuuuge let down in every possible way. Music, lore, missions, all of it was lesser than the previous games. The worst Homeworld game by far imo.
And the story is truly, utterly shit and made me like the setting far, far less than I did before.
The music really was a letdown. I loved the vast emptiness ambiance of 1 and cataclysm.
Gotta agree. While I did like the visuals at the time, I always thought the story of HW2 was childish and ridiculous. All that prophecy mumbo jumbo did not fit with the lore of HW1 and degraded HW2 from plausible sci-fi to pure space fantasy.
Half game half something.dont get it.
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HELO IM newto game... how to cheat money.i need to practice and enjoy the game..ai always attackign me even in easy difficulty xD
There are no cheats
@@Eradicator-jv9xr demonstrably false. You can use Cheat Engine (Takes some skill, but can be learned), or you can simply use RU Injections mode built into the game. Still won't prevent the AI from being decent, but does at least let you somewhat react to them and learn
Injections even at the highest value cannot keep up ever. And cheat engine is cheat engine.