"Mistakes" that aren't mistakes - swiping and displacement
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- Опубликовано: 17 апр 2024
- "Good" swiping sounds good because the pick changes its path to graze the top of the swiped string instead of slamming through it. Displacement converts an "odds" phrase like a scale into an "evens" phrase - which easier for many alternate picking motions - by moving a pickstroke from one string to another and hiding the move with legato. Swiping and displacement are usually done subconsciously. (I didn't even realize I was doing displacement on the gain example here until I watched it later.) But they are not mistakes, because when you film them, they are consistent and serve a clear mechanical purpose. So I guarantee you there is a lot of displacement out there that players don't realize they are doing because it feels and sounds smooth. So I strongly encourage everyone not to get too hung up on what you see with your brand new Magnets, and instead doing whatever sounds good and is easy!
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Holy cow, all this time I was able to shred
I missed that, thank you Troy!
I do like this
Is this how Paul Gilbert would play it?
Yeah I was just about to say the same think. I've heard Gilbert uses this as well
Not exactly. I'm using USX technique here. In USX, the picking motion moves along a diagonal where upstrokes go up in the air, and downstrokes move down between the strings. Because of this, swiping is really only possible on downstrokes - usually ascending, as you're seeing here. Paul isn't really a USX player. He's either a DSX player or a DBX player. So when swiping occurs in Paul's technique it happens on the upstroke, not the downstroke, if it happens at all. I don't think Paul is a systematic swiper. He doesn't rely on this to make upstroke string changes, his form is capable of escaping in both directions. It's just some licks where hits the upstroke accent that you'll hear it - and even then, not all the time. By contrast what I'm doing in this clip is systematic - I'm expecting it to happen, consistently, during a particular pickstroke because of the form I'm using.
Ah, sorry meant to include: If these terms like USX, DSX and DBX are unfamiliar, here's a quick explainer which should clarify ( troygrady.com/primer/reference/escape-motion-reference/ ).
Thanks for the thorough explanation! 🙌🏼
In the slomo, i don't see the pick hitting the G string on the swipe!
Very good view of the thumb and forefinger while picking. My forefinger nail tends to brush against and sometimes catch on a string. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks
like mikio fujioka's picking
the evh run
Yeah but the way EVH played it wasn't all picked. Legato on top string, pick on bottom string (ref. Spanish fly)
Actually when you look at live footage of Ed doing this lick, the picking hand never stops moving. He just missed the notes on the low string some of the time. If you listen to the album recording of Spanish Fly, you can actually * hear * him hitting the high E string, muted, with those "missed" pickstrokes that were supposed to be on the B string. Mind blown when I discovered this.
@@troygrady wow I need to listen again then - interesting!
Troy, do you think its possible to practice enough to become a USX player as a natural DSX player? I know that a lot of people can get DBX as either, but DBX is more of a single stroke escape modification, rather than a full USXDSX conversion when switching strings. I have struggle a bit as a DSX natural, and have since moved to selective picking and economy for things that require DBX. But the pick attack isnt quite as good without the strict alternate picking form.
Let me know your thoughts!
I'm not sure I buy this idea of some people being "naturally" one way or another. These are just techniques - anyone can learn them. It's just that back in the day people discovered things on their own without explicit instruction, and weren't really aware that there were other ways of moving.
How about string skipping?
Actually I seem to hear that the note right after the swipe is *softer* than the others. It's almost like my brain is hinting at the note. Maybe it's just a perception artifact, but if it is an actual thing, it will probably show up as a "dip" in the waveform envelope
You mean the first upstroke on the G? Sounds clear to me. The string also moves forcefully on that pickstroke in slow motion. This is actually typical - when you film alternate picking with the Magnet, you notice that the string very often moves more in one direction than the other. The asymmetry of the pulse is what makes 'good' alternate picking sound natural. By contrast if you record a line at normal speed with a clean tone, and zoom in with your DAW and cut out all the upstrokes (or all the downstrokes), the evenness of the picking sounds super weird and robotic, like a typewriter. To your point, you definitely * can * see this asymmetry in the waveform. But the weaker pickstroke isn't always the upstroke and (to me, at least), it's desirable for natural sound.
Hi Troy yeah, it's weird and I wasn't accurate in the description of my perception...Actually I hear a dip in the sound just *before* the upstroke on G. It's almost like this "void" is taking the place of where the note should be, and this creates a kind of gap. You're right though, the note on the upstroke is absolutely clear. I'll give it a bit more thought 😇
@@MicheleAnciswonder if you would pick it up while blinded because of anything to me the third bite on the first string is the most quiet.
@@austinyun Well... First: I now *re*-listened to the whole video and can't notice much 🙃
This might be because I don't have headphones right now though...
Second: I mentioned just *before* the first upstroke on G, so in theory that's pretty close to the third stroke on A... It sounds like the "envelope" of the sound is caving in in that transition between the strings/notes, third to fourth but again, as I said in the beginning: I'm not at all sure I'm just making this up in my head
This happens only with upwardpickslanting?
Swiping happens in many techniques, but I'm showing it here with USX technique. This is a diagonal motion where the upstroke goes up in the air and the downstroke goes down between the strings. So when players use this type of picking motion, they usually employ swiping on the downstroke, not the upstroke. The appearance of the pick (pickslant) is somewhat secondary - the key is that that motion is moving along a diagonal.
Nah, that would drive me crazy