Quick correction that will bother me if I don’t address it. I mention that Warp Ryoshu is in the lowest Health Bracket of 000 IDs, and while that’s kinda true, Manager Don alone has the lowest health of the 000’s and I have no clue how I missed that considering I think I checked every other 000 ID in the game at level 50 to be sure it was correct. My bad, I’ll be sure to be publicly stoned as compensation.
My biggest issue with support passives is that it is exhausting and inefficient to look through them without manually going through every single ID for a character. I wish there was an easier way to view support passives or create loadouts of them. Ruina at least had a search feature and filters for its passives. It would be a huge QOL feature that I hope we get one day
Shoutout to the "Middle Little Brother" Meursault support passive, 10 sp per turn as long as the unit that needs it has another unit of the same faction on the field.
Oh yeah, he's the GOAT. You can use him in full-faction teams to speed up the SP game, or use him in a team where only 2 characters are from the same faction so they can skyrocket their SP and spam EGO ASAP. A powerful and versatile support passive for sure!
step 1: wild hunt heathcliff step 2: mount dullahan step 3: build to 10 coffin to fix dullahan's sp loss to 10 sp step 4: completely ignore the sp loss
For someone who used to avoid using him - you got a good point. Besides the passive - my man deals shit loads of Rupture with a setup, and others can hardly compare.
@@RussianCollapse I kid you not I use W corp Meursault to apply commical amounts of rupture using the rupture branch and his gloom skills, pretty good
Its a big culture shock for me to see a video like this published; because for me and others who run railway for Low Turn Clears, support passives can make or break runs, and are a major consideration for teambuilding. Its shocking in the sense that you'd think other people pay attention to these things more, but clearly it seems that they are general observed as "overlooked", which is wild to me.
The biggest crime of support passives was the rework of lccb ryoshu’s support passive cause she was making magic bullet outis’ final attack do even more damage and that was funny
Liu Gregor's very impressive 30% damage bonus is especially fun to use on someone like Warp Don, though due to the nature of of it only activating on the 4th coin and beyond your ability to properly utilize it is still greatly limited. However in *very* specific circumstances, like hypothetically spending 8 hours in MD making Wingbeat Ishmael roll 101 with Wingbeat, the astronomical damage bonus really starts to shine as you keep telling yourself that it was totally worth it before passing out on the floor and later waking up to the smoke detector because you forgot to turn the stove off All purely hypothetical of course
I remember i couldn't solo canto 7 final boss with don due to losing sp for some reason until i figured out it was heir greg i had no idea his passive did that i was so annoyed
legit he's banned from my mirror dungeon teams (and everything else also) bc I hate forgetting about him and I'm not running fuckin potential man for him
Rodion truly is a woman of the people. She saved bleed, rupture and burn (even if burn still needs help) Edit: Cereal, i hope you renounce your nonbeliever ways and i hope Saint Rodion takes pity on your soul.
@cereal8193>Lacks ID content for 9 months >Last time even mentioned on ID 8 months ago with RingSang and Outis >13 months since last burn E.G.O. until we got MB Outis(in Walpurgisnight, ofcourse) >Has good stuff only inside Walpurgisnight >Still the only status, not able to build full team of 000's >Has to use bleed units in burn teams >Deals damage only inside MD because of one funny E.G.O. gift. Otherwise, no damage Yeah, burn doesn't need just "help". It needs a whole ass revival
@@theguywhichismessingaround rupture got everything it needed in season 2, burn's savior is mb outis and bleed has some nice cheese strats involving her but potency gain is still really slow for it to do massive dmg. this is all in non md content ofc
@cereal8193 okay, I'm sorry, but could you explain to me how rupture got everything it needed in season 2? I'm actually serious I know season 2 had rose Gregor and talisman Sinclair released, and afaik 7faust, 7heath and 7outis were also available during that period, but that did not really help rupture dominate in its single target annihilation niche as much as spicebuch helped sinking. Season 3 and season 4 did not really have any units that would benefit rupture (hell, the only rupture unit I remember from those 2 seasons is the dead rabbits meursault), but canto 7 really elevated rupture into a whole 'nother level with devyat rodya and Cinq meursault releases
You touched on the opportunity cost of not running that sinner when it comes to support passives, but often times I think an interest aspect is not running that specific ID. Solemn Lament Yi Sang's support passive allowing any sinking team to become a butterfly team is awesome, but at the same time, solemn lament yi sang is equally as awesome. Dawn Office Sinclair letting any unit become a burn unit is really cool, but dawn office sinclair is also one of the best units to run on a burn team. It's really interesting and really unfortunate at the same time, because it feels to me like the interesting dilemma of whether to field an ID or use their support passive is nonexistant in the face of the choice feeling obvious. Not fielding dawn office sinclair on a burn team feels like shooting yourself in the foot, but I've never tried running his support passive so who's to say how bad it really would be?
Its more like a burn problem where their IDs are behind wal and they didn't have that much 000 IDs. Like, you could create 2 bleed team with 000 IDs but can't fill a single good burn team 💀
Dawnclair support would be great on someone who has a lot of coins, clash power, and has a wrath s3(or just an insanely good wrath skill, perhaps with attack weight to make the most of it). Basically finding a good replacement for dawnclair if you find his clashes lacking and dont care about his gloom s1 for fueling ego. In other words, welcome Manager Quixote in the burn team!
I'd also like to mention Yi Sang for burn teams. Fielding ring yi sang gives you more burn count and just a lot of damage in general, but base Yi Sang remedies dawnclair and magic bullet outis' sp loss
TBF, Devyat Sinclair is designed for viability in chain/normal battle. Problem with rupture team as whole is that they just perform much worse when it comes to non-focus battle due to multiple enemies, so at the end of the day, all that rupture can do is around 5-10 bonus damage per enemy until they die from just normal skill damage. I think Devyat Sinclair is just a PM's direction on making certain status team to be not sided toward only certain type of fight. (Outside, talisman may be dangerous with enemy that have unbreakable coin)
Came here to say basically the same thing. Also, it might be worth adding that him being a blunt self-switch gives him a potential niche in case some RR got a blunt-weak fight followed by a blunt-resistant one.
Personally I’m a big fan of the old damage up passives. R Heath’s Doggedness is a good one for any team that likes pierce attacks, TTGL Hong Lu and base Rodion’s passives are great all the time. One really strong one that you missed is Yurodivy Ryoshu’s passive, which increases tremor count gained for the number 1 deployed unit. Which is great for a lot of tremor charge units.
Funnily enough Devyat Sinclair has a use, but of course outside of a rupture team, and that is to be the 7th id when you field full-stop hong lu and heath so he can consistantly swap in and out with heathcliff
Here's a Rupture rendition of Hero for me to express how disappointed I am (I cannot follow a dream that has already ended) One, two, one, two, three, four We're swaying on rupturepill HP's melting And IDs win clashes And count is positive! The damage that I never had - I'm so happy, happy to just be part of your team build! After you I rupture, after you I rupture, E.G.O.s you showed me broadened my horizon Forever Rupture Bro, forever Rupture Bro, I'm rupture's biggest fan - I'm rupture's biggest fan! Alright, try enduring this, it'll fry you just e-nough to kill. One, two, one, two, three, four I fell down the rupture pill with my ruptured legs, and then it starts to sink, showing it's all fake Sinking washed down the façade HP is not melted IDs can't clash for shit Count is negative Rupturing that I feel, rupturing that I feel, return it to the sinking, now I understand Rupture Count cannot be real, Rupture Count cannot be real, I didn't play my archetype, I don't know my archetype... Who am I? (x4) HERE WE GO ANOTHER ID COUNT TO CLAIM -3 SKILL 2 -2 SKILL 3 GOLDEN BOXES IN MY BAG STAY UNEXCHANGED DON'T. YOU. LOVE. TO. UPTIE. IDS? JIHOON JUST GIVE US COUNT!! JIHOON I JUST WANT COUNT!! I STILL WANT RUPTURE COOOUNT- Why is that some were given, the role of rupture without having any headdamn rupture count? Stand up, use sinking, nothing can be done by crying over how rupture's bad A BRO ON A RUPTURED HORSE, FIGHTING LIKE IT'S REAL, WIIITH A COUNT NEGATIVE SWOOOORD I KNOOOOW IF WON CLASH OR NOT - I AM WHO I AM I'm rupture's biggest fan, I'm rupture's biggest fan, only way to gain count is G's A.E.D.D. spam... A BRO GONNA PROVE MY VERSION OF RUPTURE IIIS NOT GREEN SINKING UNO, REMAINING ON TARGET ONLY THIS MUCH COUNT I'm rupture's biggest fan, I'm rupture's biggest fan, ID's can't clash and count is E.G.O. spam...
I have to say, this is the kind of video I see and just makes me go "Yeah, this man 1000% deserves all the support" You just bring in a relatively big topic, which may be a section of the game, an aspect of gameplay... etc, and then proceeds to VERY carefully dissect every part of it, why it's relevant, how it's relevant and where it can be found in many ways, while always giving examples with, frankly, outstanding visuals and just overall presentation This is a topic I've been wanting to talk with some of my friends for a while now since I did some solo clears for some content but I didn't have a good... backing for a proper presentation of the topic, but this? This is fantastic You broke down everything about support passives, all their uses and then proceeded to veryyy swiftly and smoothly go to the solo section, those transitions are SO well made Honestly ESGOO, I hope you continue to make videos like these for the future of this game, your content is both extremely entertaining and veryyyyyyyyyy informative, the way you help both experienced and new players understand everything is commendable Thank you VERY much for all this support and all your videos, please take care and make sure to keep them rolling while keeping your motivation going! Always go for these innovative and wider topics, I'd imagine these also help you from burnout since you're never really talking about the same thing (unless it's been a VERY long time and/or a VERY relevant update has happened on that department (ESGOO curse do be real tho)) Again, I'm super happy to be a supporter for your channel and I hope you enjoy what you're making here as well as what the community gives back to you, be it in conversations, jokes and overall appreciation
23:24 this support passive is also super good on solemn lament yi sang who gets the extra damage EVERY TIME he uses skill 3. Not niche or useless whatsoever
Im pretty sure he doesnt get the extra damage, but i cant test it rn (so if im wrong, thats on me) Solemn Lament Yi Sang does not spend Ammo - he spends Unique Ammo, which is different. The only reason Magic Bullet Outis' skill 3 works with it, is that it literally has the line: "(Counts as spending the last Ammo)"
I love you ESGOOner, thank you for the rupture video. I actually hope we'll get to swap passives around like in Ruina eventually so that you can use Faust to support Faust.
In my Sinking team, I always set Wild Hunt Heathcliff in slot 1, because when everyone is 45, Linton Gregor gives him Gloom Damage Up, which makes his skill 3 and skill 4 stronger, and he recovers that sanity on a clash
there are a lot of silly support passives, my favorites being: - Swordplay of the Homeland (kimsault) - +15% crit damage (from 1.2x to 1.35x) - Self-Neglect/Hustle (shicliff/base ryoshu) - +20% damage dealt and taken (the passives are identical aside for the needed resonance for activation) - Desperation (pequod heathcliff) - +0.3% damage dealt for every 1% HP missing, up to +30% (which is only reachable when you are missing 100% max HP, so more realistically your maximum damage boost from this is 29.7%)
For the sake of damage calcs there's two types of damage modifiers. First is whats commonly referred to as static multipliers which includes sin weaknesses, physical damage weaknesses, crit, and difference between atk/def level, among a few other things. Second is Dynamic multipliers, which is basically everything else. This includes any damage % up in skills, protection, damage ups, fragilities, and all support passives. So Kimsault's crit skill doesn't increase the damage from 1.2 to 1.35 like clear water calm waters. In most cases this is actually better than what you posted!
Something you didn't mention is that the atelier logic ammo can count as his last ammo, so you can (and pretty easily) fire off his enhanced S3 with the passive up for an insane amount of damage!
23:18 The fact that ammo effects just decide to completely ignore unique ammo bothers me to no end. This support passive should be amazing with DingSang’s absolute executioner of a S3, but because his bullets are made of butterflies, it just skips over him completely. Annoys the hell out of me.
I feel like I'm often the only person on the subreddit really talking about support passive optimization. For anyone wanting some fun. The KK Bleed Support Passives apply on every unique instance of Bleed on a skill. You can get some VERY funny numbers with some ID's like Rhinosault suddenly inflicting a dozen bleed potency.
@@jackripper4437 Mistake on my part. It's bleed potency, but it can apply on Bleed Count infliction. Rhinosault S3 has a bunch of individual bleed count procs that will all INDIVIDUALLY trigger the KK passives, resulting in a sudden explosion of Bleed Potency on the target.
One of my favorite things regarding support passives I discovered recently is that ever since clashable defence skills were added to the game, support passives that can give defensive power up are genuinely useful now if you can get the sin resources for them. lobotomy remnant faust in particular is amazing since every clashable counter in the game currently is lust, so 2 lust resonance is barely a conditional for that +2 final power
Protip from a rupture player : never field talisman sinclair, you have wayyy better rupture options (Wsang, lobo don, cinq meursault and devyat rodion) for overall performance and 4 glutonny skills aren't that hard to get since it's the rupture affinity, Fielding Talisman sinclair isn't that good despite the permanent 5 rupture on hit on the enemy because you'll be stuck with an ID that will destroy your rupture count instead of maintaining it, that's why lccb ishmael isn't really the best pick either as she's just a weight unless you have her skill 3, and why ting tang hong lu is just a dodger merchant but at least he has 2 rupture egos to justify his use on a team Tl;dr : rupture teams must focus on having IDs with a lot of count and it'll be more fun to play than resetting hoping for the right skill rotation
@@mega-supp You can also easily reach high potency via talisman support passive with Devyat rodion with 2 slot, you'll get either 56 (8 talisman) potency or 70 (10 talisman) potency based on coins alone in a single turn (assuming rodion skill 3 with reuse coin into skill 2). Supporting Talisman sinclair is as viable as fielding him, if not more since it's actually less RNG to reset and hope for a skill 2 and 3 over having a 2-slotted ID roll a skill 3 and 2 at once (also better clashing)
@OK4Lisateur good point but double slotting rodion 1) is not an option in railways 2) requires you to run no backups in chain battles I do think that generally benching talisclair is a better way to run rupture and resetting for talisclair s2->s3 sucks, but I think you are discrediting an alternative way to run rupture too much.
@@mega-supp Rupture has few Ids but just enough that running a different team comp also implies running 2-slotted Ids, which doesnt really exclude running talisman clair, it's only the best way if you want rupture potency fast but not running him for an ID that clashes better is just as valid, because otherwise you'd have to guard with talisman just so he doesnt eat up count instead of using skills that are neutral/positive or deal much more damage by itself (although you could make the argument the boss should be dying before that happens) As for back up, I think chain battles as a mechanic suck and the player shouldn't be artificially forced to engage with it because unbreakable coins but that's something for another convo, and the rupture is definitely strong enough to not need backup thanks to DPS and the best IDs being able to run healing EGOs, so might as well engage with chain battles in railway content since 2-slotting doesnt work there
@OK4Lisateur let's see there's Ring/W sang, 7 Faust, Lantern don, Cinq meur, Talisclair, Rosespanner/Zwei gregor (rosespanner has rupture but only clashes good on s2, zwei is pretty tanky, cleans up fodder better and is faster so he can inflict spark discharge sooner in turn order, and also 7 outis (Ebony stem passive is good) and 7 Heath for backup. While content so far hasn't forced players to engage with backup system PM has the ability to do so (Wait for when in Hong lu Canto his brother shoots us with an S-tier gun that instakills your sinners).
Another good example of a support passive that makes a specific unit better is Yuro Ryoushu and Spicebrush Yi Sang. Under normal conditions, Yi Sang can only generate +2 or +5 Tremor Count per turn, as it decays by 1. This means that his S2 AoE conditional of 6 is gated behind 3 S1's (barely), a S1 and a S3 (and you really don't want to carelessly toss out his S3), or *2 S3's.* This is to say nothing of the difficulty of proccing his S3 extra nuke, assuming you even need it. Yuro Ryoushu's Support Passive, for a mere 4 Sloth Owned (easy to achieve with Spicebrush, Molar Ish, and maybe one of the Dieci's), gives the #1 deployed ally +1 Tremor Count from skill/coin effects, up to 2 per turn. This provides a genuine reason to slot Yi Sang first. Each of his S1's provides 3 Tremor Count, and each of his S3's gives 6, after the -1 decay. A turn of 2 S1's gives him enough Tremor to bust out his AoE, as does a single S3 which may be helpful in multi-boss encounters. Obviously this comes with a few downsides, namely; - You aren't double slotting Outis for higher Echoes uptime or even someone like Wild Hunt Heath or Molar Ish - You aren't running Butterfly Boy, though to be fair they are largely interchangeable IDs for different fights - Yi Sang's S1's are downright unsalvageable for clashing at a mere 9 with no Coin Power conditional. Yikes. Even in a Sinking team with enemies locked in Panic, a lot of skills will still outroll this at their worst. This can be patched up by Bygone Days raising its Clash to an 11 against enemies with 6/4+ Sinking, but that's still below average for 000 S1's, and it doesn't help the actual damage rolls. Not to mention Bygone Days sets you back -3 of the Sloth you need. But if you're willing to work around those downsides, Ryoushu's Support Passive actually makes Spicebrush more than just a Sinking Deluge bot
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One of the strangest Support Passives in the game is actually Magic Bullet Outis. Not because of the Passive itself, but rather because Project Moon made the very odd decision to tack on an extra effect when she's at Uptie Tier 4 exclusively. Maybe there was another Support Passive that got buffed at Tier 4 and I don't remember it, but the point is that this is very rare.
Doing Talisman Sinclair strats in Railway 3 was the single most miserable experience I have ever had with Limbus and as much as I dislike how centralizing his support passive is I'm thankful I'll never need to actually deploy his ass ever again.
If you are referring to the new Faust ID, nothing is confirmed about her not being Liu, but due to: 1 Her being a Seasonal ID (based on the border) she may be important to the Upcoming Intervallo, the LCB CheckUp. 2 She has an armband that says LCE on it and her referencing Ardor Moth many believe she may be part of "Limbus Company Extraction/EGO department"
I want to add on the small tangent about Devyat Sinclair: He still consumes Rupture Count at the 15/3 threshold. He stops inflicting, too. So essentually, he just kills your stack.
21:45 would like to add on that wild hunt heathcliff gets really good value out of both of these, although he cant get the first one for obvious reasons, and it seems like they made that gregor's (and all the wuthering heights ids except ryoshu) support passives specifically to synergize with him while on the bench. it also thematically is really cool when you consider wild hunt's counter summons the wuthering heights ids to deflect the attack, so it feels like he actually is calling upon their abilities to buff him.
11:52, there is a zipper cause uh mm hmm uh well hmm uh its uh its well its ya know its there to uh you know its there for the uh the mm the the well you know?
Honestly, if i has to pick one, i'd go with Middle Meursault any day, just 3 envy resources, and you can start enjoying 10 free sp as long as you have 2 or more ID's from the same faction in battle (only affects said ID's, but still.) Really good on charge teams, which can gain envy rather quickly, so you most likely will have the passive ready by the second turn, not only that, but it also helps to you to "mitigate" the cost of using E.G.O's, since it'll help the ID's recover SP lost, and even though Base YI Sang can do the same, it will only affect ID's that lost SP THIS turn, meaning that if you were to overclock an E.G.O it wouldn't help you as much. And it's really easy to run, you can put him in a bloodfiend team, w corp team with both multicrack ID's, etc.
I just use K-Corp Hong Lu for Talisman, he has to Gluttony Res for Lasso anyway and pretty much always has the most health. Works wonders, 4 Coins makes the most out of Talisman
Now that I have a full true multi attack weight (m.a.w.) team, I can actually use spicebush’s passive with ting tang, middle mersault, liu gregor, and base ryoshu’s passive for funny damage. Don’t mind the fact that my team is technically a bleed/sinking/burn/piss charge team (or blinuror team for short).
@@GoogleAccount-jn5qb i've seen people who don't change their off-field sinners for support passives in general and it's usually the people who dont know how to teambuild or dont care about that part of the game. even still i think its crazy too people dont know how valuable these buffs can be
I recall sharding NCorp Faust specifically for her support passive to help with my Dawn Office Sinclair. Honestly I think there's a lot to say about support passives in general and I agree that they're underrated, I just wish there was an easier in-game way to read and sort through all of them so this kind of team building was less tedious and time consuming.
My favorite use of a support passive is finding out Lantern Don's healing applies _per hit_ so long as you have even one aggro, and just going HAM with a Zwei Ishmael solo. It feels like you're using a medieval K corp Hong Lu and it's very funny.
Today a finished the walpurgishnacht quests by "carefully" curating passives with a two man team (didn't use any of the ids or egos on the current banner) and then this video drops.
Support Passives (and not having alternatives, but more the first) is why I run Seven Faust on my Burn team. Only to then wonder why I did it, but still.
I love support passives. I wish it was easier to browse them in game, them being an extra click behind regular skills adds lots of clicks when you have a lot of IDs.
Honestly such a great video esgoo! However, it seems you failed to mention Soda Hong Lu's passive, now with wave battles being less common and sanity always being needed no matter what, I see it truly taking its own place within limbus' meta. Especially now since Full Stop Office fixer Hong Lu being out with walpurgisnacht, Soda Hong Lu is viable both for its attack and its very useful passive
Seagull Squawking Of The Distant Seas When an enemy is defeated, the ally with the least SP heals 1 SP. Whenever an enemy is defeated, the amount of SP healed increases by 2. (Max 9) The amount is reset at the start of a new wave.
I love the idea of support passives but there's also just... a lot of times i wish they gave more. Like, why is it illegal for them to affect more than one unit? I'm all for giving SOME sort of way to solo, but... take W corp Outis for example. FOUR envy resonance, FOUR! and you get +10% damage... BUT ONLY IF YOU SPEND 7+ CHARGE! and only on ONE ALLY??? I think this passive would be great if it was the whole team, or even just 3 allies, or something. Just, why such an annoying condition to get a benefit with even more conditions? On one ally? I hope in the future PM finally decides to let themselves have support passives that affect multiple allies, and give a use for the worse ID's as backup for the sake of teambuilding, because they're fantastic in solos but, excepting status related support passives, feel unimpactful in full teams.
One of my favorite Support Passive is Mentor's Counsel (Cinq Outis' Support Passive), which has the pretty simple effect to give the fastest ally +1 Clash Power if they're faster than all other enemies at 3+ Pride Resonance, since it's pretty easy to do when most enemies are pretty slow, with the Sapling of Light ability, or just inflicting Bind. Also, Cinq Outis isn't a bad unit for a 00, even at Uptie 3, so IF she had to come out in Chain Battles, she can still pull her weight and deal decent damage, dodge attacks, etc. without much issue.
Tremor is my favourite status effect, right beside burn. A lot of tremor Id's happen to utilize self tremor to amplify their skill three, but charging up the status effect *really* sucks more often than I'd like because a good number these Id's consume more tremor than they generate (zwei3 sinclair is a horrible example of this). Due to tremor being a status that decays; the less tremor an id gets per turn, the exponentially slower it takes for tremor to stack to high numbers, and vice versa. Eventually, I would come to learn of Yurodivye Ryoshu's suppport passive, which enabled me to shoot out empowered skill 3s so, so much sooner, and even completely negate downtime. Now I always bench Yuroshu because the support passive is indispensible for bringing the most to an id's effectiveness, with the exception of switching it up a bit whenever I feel like it.
I've always been using base Rodion's passive for MD, it's such a stupidly straightforward damage boost. I have also gotten a good use of support passives in my current "Full-stopped by a bullet" Manager Don Quixote solo run. Shi heathcliff + Tingtang Hong Lu + Base Rodion + Pirate Greg = Like 70% more damage. Don's Yearning Carmilla is initially unable to kill the big gear worshipers without an absurd amount of lust resonance, but the 70% damage boost makes it easy enough to get 7 kills with it even if she rolls one or two tails at the end.
soda Hong Lu passive not mentioned. posting this here :: When an enemy is defeated, the ally with the least SP heals 1 SP. Whenever an enemy is defeated, the amount of SP healed increases by 2. (Max 9) The amount is reset at the start of a new wave.
I run Shi assoc. squad for my MD grind and N corp Mersault's support passive goes along quite well. It needs 3 wrath resonance then an id with the lowest hp that has less than 50% of the max hp gets buffed both on offense and defense level. Since shi ids' max hp is pinned under 50% after upgrading their ego gift and they all own one wrath skill each, it is quite easy to activate and also quite sweet.
Don't disrespect my Passive LCB Yi Sang and LCB Hong Lu. They are MASSIVE supporters of my SinFlame and BlueFlameOutis squad. Also, Gregor in general. His support passives are almost universally amazing. Healing? Check. Defense? Check. Need to LOSE some sanity on a negative coin ID? CHECK!
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Quick correction that will bother me if I don’t address it.
I mention that Warp Ryoshu is in the lowest Health Bracket of 000 IDs, and while that’s kinda true, Manager Don alone has the lowest health of the 000’s and I have no clue how I missed that considering I think I checked every other 000 ID in the game at level 50 to be sure it was correct. My bad, I’ll be sure to be publicly stoned as compensation.
I'll forgive you because you sparked full stop heathcliff when you already had him
Esgoo gets Wishing Cairned IRL
more on LimbusLeak at 11
id also like to say that butler ryoshu suppassive works perfectly with guncliff as it gives poise and haste
Farewell mirror world Esgoo, you will not be missed. Get another one in here!
Meow for us
all these support passives and i didnt need a single one of them to deal with that legal team you sent my way...
Bro sent the omfie association to you that's messed up
Woman when are you dropping your solo run of the allegations?
I love woman
ofc you just contempt awed all over them
Woman, where is the 6-48 solo with Full Stop Heathcliff?
My biggest issue with support passives is that it is exhausting and inefficient to look through them without manually going through every single ID for a character. I wish there was an easier way to view support passives or create loadouts of them. Ruina at least had a search feature and filters for its passives. It would be a huge QOL feature that I hope we get one day
The lack of filtering inside the game itself is prob the Only issue i have with the game
idk I just remember them all
ID and EGO filter for sin affinity passives would be very welcome.
@@GoogleAccount-jn5qb when you spend enough time looking at all the ID's support passives you just start remembering them all
I just remember all of them
It doesn't surprise me that talisman sinclair support passive carries 90% of rupture teams
D guy comment again
Sir Limbus Commenter the first, tell us about your Walpurgisnacht pulls.
@@WhendelXDI got everything and only pitied Hong Lu. I think that's ok.
0:37 "suddenly, one day...he released a sinking video."
Shoutout to the "Middle Little Brother" Meursault support passive, 10 sp per turn as long as the unit that needs it has another unit of the same faction on the field.
Oh yeah, he's the GOAT. You can use him in full-faction teams to speed up the SP game, or use him in a team where only 2 characters are from the same faction so they can skyrocket their SP and spam EGO ASAP. A powerful and versatile support passive for sure!
step 1: wild hunt heathcliff
step 2: mount dullahan
step 3: build to 10 coffin to fix dullahan's sp loss to 10 sp
step 4: completely ignore the sp loss
Me watching Dawn Sinclair crying because he has none of his Dawn Office Fixers.
At least base Yi Sang and Hong Lu helps a bit
Which doesn't work for Dawnclair even if other members have the fixer tag 😭
@@Kalder44cuz they're not from the same office as him 😭
Finally, a sense of validation for the way I constantly mix and match the perfect benched IDs every time I make a team like it's Ruina all over again
I like W Corp Meursault's support passive. I like W Corp Meursault.
For someone who used to avoid using him - you got a good point. Besides the passive - my man deals shit loads of Rupture with a setup, and others can hardly compare.
@@RussianCollapse I kid you not I use W corp Meursault to apply commical amounts of rupture using the rupture branch and his gloom skills, pretty good
I like Meursault
i pray for the day kuro rodion gets uptie 5 and her counter becomes clashable. actual counterable sky-clearing cut yes please
oh yeah that would be cool, just the whole chain of counters with these 17+8 (i don't remember exact numbers) and you are invincible
Princess rodion's support passive was definitely made for priest greg
3 ESGOO videos in a month? Christmas must have come early this year already
Or really late from last year
Idk why but ESGOO talking about MD solos feels so surreal for me
cause he doesn't play it
@@bullet3417he- he does tho
@@loafies7722 source?
He is friends with limbus youtubers who do mirror dungeon solo runs and has frequently joined their streams@bullet3417
@@loafies7722he doesn’t, he literally doesn’t and esgoo is also famous for never counting mirror dungeon and content while making tier lists and stuff
It is genuinely sad for the state of QoL that Limbus has regarding passives. It would be so much convenient having filters for each sin and effect.
Its a big culture shock for me to see a video like this published; because for me and others who run railway for Low Turn Clears, support passives can make or break runs, and are a major consideration for teambuilding. Its shocking in the sense that you'd think other people pay attention to these things more, but clearly it seems that they are general observed as "overlooked", which is wild to me.
The biggest crime of support passives was the rework of lccb ryoshu’s support passive cause she was making magic bullet outis’ final attack do even more damage and that was funny
I suppose PMoon wanted to futureproof for other IDs with an ammo-aoe gimmick.
@@donvitopatata Full Stop Heathcliff would like that event to be non-canon. (Atelier Bullet go BIG DAMAGE)
@@GivingGamingGrantit doesn't affect him, he doesn't have aoe
@@aisir3725 wha? I meant the old passive of LCCB Ryoshu, cuz Atelier Bullet is allways the last ammo (cuz it's ammo type is literally 1 )
It would be op as fuck with the MB ego but comon at least let it exist for like a week
Liu Gregor's very impressive 30% damage bonus is especially fun to use on someone like Warp Don, though due to the nature of of it only activating on the 4th coin and beyond your ability to properly utilize it is still greatly limited. However in *very* specific circumstances, like hypothetically spending 8 hours in MD making Wingbeat Ishmael roll 101 with Wingbeat, the astronomical damage bonus really starts to shine as you keep telling yourself that it was totally worth it before passing out on the floor and later waking up to the smoke detector because you forgot to turn the stove off
All purely hypothetical of course
tfw liu gregors support passive cant even be used on his own solemn lameny
I remember i couldn't solo canto 7 final boss with don due to losing sp for some reason until i figured out it was heir greg i had no idea his passive did that i was so annoyed
legit he's banned from my mirror dungeon teams (and everything else also) bc I hate forgetting about him and I'm not running fuckin potential man for him
Garden of thorns Gregor?
@@TomoLampLinton
Rodion truly is a woman of the people. She saved bleed, rupture and burn (even if burn still needs help)
Edit: Cereal, i hope you renounce your nonbeliever ways and i hope Saint Rodion takes pity on your soul.
false 🙄
@cereal8193>Lacks ID content for 9 months
>Last time even mentioned on ID 8 months ago with RingSang and Outis
>13 months since last burn E.G.O. until we got MB Outis(in Walpurgisnight, ofcourse)
>Has good stuff only inside Walpurgisnight
>Still the only status, not able to build full team of 000's
>Has to use bleed units in burn teams
>Deals damage only inside MD because of one funny E.G.O. gift. Otherwise, no damage
Yeah, burn doesn't need just "help". It needs a whole ass revival
@cereal8193 elaborate
You can't just talk shit and then not explain why
@@theguywhichismessingaround rupture got everything it needed in season 2, burn's savior is mb outis and bleed has some nice cheese strats involving her but potency gain is still really slow for it to do massive dmg. this is all in non md content ofc
@cereal8193 okay, I'm sorry, but could you explain to me how rupture got everything it needed in season 2? I'm actually serious
I know season 2 had rose Gregor and talisman Sinclair released, and afaik 7faust, 7heath and 7outis were also available during that period, but that did not really help rupture dominate in its single target annihilation niche as much as spicebuch helped sinking.
Season 3 and season 4 did not really have any units that would benefit rupture (hell, the only rupture unit I remember from those 2 seasons is the dead rabbits meursault), but canto 7 really elevated rupture into a whole 'nother level with devyat rodya and Cinq meursault releases
You touched on the opportunity cost of not running that sinner when it comes to support passives, but often times I think an interest aspect is not running that specific ID. Solemn Lament Yi Sang's support passive allowing any sinking team to become a butterfly team is awesome, but at the same time, solemn lament yi sang is equally as awesome. Dawn Office Sinclair letting any unit become a burn unit is really cool, but dawn office sinclair is also one of the best units to run on a burn team.
It's really interesting and really unfortunate at the same time, because it feels to me like the interesting dilemma of whether to field an ID or use their support passive is nonexistant in the face of the choice feeling obvious. Not fielding dawn office sinclair on a burn team feels like shooting yourself in the foot, but I've never tried running his support passive so who's to say how bad it really would be?
Its more like a burn problem where their IDs are behind wal and they didn't have that much 000 IDs. Like, you could create 2 bleed team with 000 IDs but can't fill a single good burn team 💀
sl yi sang support is eating 6 sinking per turn (refunding maybe 3 in 1-2 turns), outside of MD you need some serious application to keep that up
Dawnclair support would be great on someone who has a lot of coins, clash power, and has a wrath s3(or just an insanely good wrath skill, perhaps with attack weight to make the most of it). Basically finding a good replacement for dawnclair if you find his clashes lacking and dont care about his gloom s1 for fueling ego.
In other words, welcome Manager Quixote in the burn team!
I'd also like to mention Yi Sang for burn teams.
Fielding ring yi sang gives you more burn count and just a lot of damage in general, but base Yi Sang remedies dawnclair and magic bullet outis' sp loss
24:44 esgoo what do you mean by this
don't worry esgoo, you were only 349 days early to release on christmas
TBF, Devyat Sinclair is designed for viability in chain/normal battle. Problem with rupture team as whole is that they just perform much worse when it comes to non-focus battle due to multiple enemies, so at the end of the day, all that rupture can do is around 5-10 bonus damage per enemy until they die from just normal skill damage.
I think Devyat Sinclair is just a PM's direction on making certain status team to be not sided toward only certain type of fight.
(Outside, talisman may be dangerous with enemy that have unbreakable coin)
I mean, that also goes for ANY team that wants to stack status effects
i agree
Yeah but in mirror dungeon the ego gift from chicken chef that gives +3 count for rupture its broken
Came here to say basically the same thing. Also, it might be worth adding that him being a blunt self-switch gives him a potential niche in case some RR got a blunt-weak fight followed by a blunt-resistant one.
@@SingerOfW I dont like the deivat ids
I love infinitely stalling fights with Zweishmael and GcorpGreg's support passive. The Wall™
this walpurgis humiliated esgoo so badly he skipped the video
I never understood how to properly use Talisman Sinclair before this video so thank you for teaching me Mister Esgoo! Gonna try it now for sure.
I feel bad for Fanghunt office Hong Lu being completely forgotten about for the rupture team.
nah, we remember him, but we also remember that he sucks for rupture teams, unfortunately
His mission is -2 bleed potency and nothing more
I love when Esgoo talks about Sinclair's IDS; it's either dogshit or crack as hell.
tingtang gang gangleader hong lu... oh how i LOVE you..
Ring Sang: I have the highest damaging skill 2
Tingtang Hong Lu:
Solos mentiones, best Esgoo video
so true
7:22 HE SAID THE THING!
honestly quite incredible
I like to call IDs that have great support passives but garbage everything else, like Mariachi Sinclair, cheerleader IDs.
Personally I’m a big fan of the old damage up passives. R Heath’s Doggedness is a good one for any team that likes pierce attacks, TTGL Hong Lu and base Rodion’s passives are great all the time. One really strong one that you missed is Yurodivy Ryoshu’s passive, which increases tremor count gained for the number 1 deployed unit. Which is great for a lot of tremor charge units.
tengen toppa gurren lagann hong lu...
Funnily enough Devyat Sinclair has a use, but of course outside of a rupture team, and that is to be the 7th id when you field full-stop hong lu and heath so he can consistantly swap in and out with heathcliff
FINALLYLYY, BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE THE STREAM!!
I was a Rupture Bro once. I was there when that name was first uttered.
But I've woken up, only to see infinite negative count.
Sinking is better.
Not right now it isn't, lmao. But it does require you to have those specific IDs to make it work at all, there's no replacement for them whatsoever.
Here's a Rupture rendition of Hero for me to express how disappointed I am (I cannot follow a dream that has already ended)
One, two, one, two, three, four
We're swaying on rupturepill
HP's melting
And IDs win clashes
And count is positive!
The damage that I never had - I'm so happy, happy to just be part of your team build!
After you I rupture, after you I rupture, E.G.O.s you showed me broadened my horizon
Forever Rupture Bro, forever Rupture Bro, I'm rupture's biggest fan - I'm rupture's biggest fan!
Alright, try enduring this, it'll fry you just e-nough to kill.
One, two, one, two, three, four
I fell down the rupture pill with my ruptured legs, and then it starts to sink, showing it's all fake
Sinking washed down the façade HP is not melted
IDs can't clash for shit
Count is negative
Rupturing that I feel, rupturing that I feel, return it to the sinking, now I understand
Rupture Count cannot be real, Rupture Count cannot be real,
I didn't play my archetype, I don't know my archetype...
Who am I? (x4)
HERE WE GO ANOTHER ID
COUNT TO CLAIM
-3 SKILL 2
-2 SKILL 3
GOLDEN BOXES IN MY BAG STAY UNEXCHANGED
DON'T. YOU. LOVE. TO. UPTIE. IDS?
JIHOON JUST GIVE US COUNT!! JIHOON I JUST WANT COUNT!! I STILL WANT RUPTURE COOOUNT-
Why is that some were given, the role of rupture without having any headdamn rupture count?
Stand up, use sinking, nothing can be done by crying over how rupture's bad
A BRO ON A RUPTURED HORSE, FIGHTING LIKE IT'S REAL, WIIITH A COUNT NEGATIVE SWOOOORD I KNOOOOW IF WON CLASH OR NOT - I AM WHO I AM
I'm rupture's biggest fan, I'm rupture's biggest fan, only way to gain count is G's A.E.D.D. spam...
A BRO GONNA PROVE MY VERSION OF RUPTURE IIIS NOT GREEN SINKING
UNO, REMAINING ON TARGET ONLY THIS MUCH COUNT
I'm rupture's biggest fan, I'm rupture's biggest fan, ID's can't clash and count is E.G.O. spam...
poser 🙄
that intro was so good I'm glad it isnt remotely close to christmas
I have to say, this is the kind of video I see and just makes me go "Yeah, this man 1000% deserves all the support"
You just bring in a relatively big topic, which may be a section of the game, an aspect of gameplay... etc, and then proceeds to VERY carefully dissect every part of it, why it's relevant, how it's relevant and where it can be found in many ways, while always giving examples with, frankly, outstanding visuals and just overall presentation
This is a topic I've been wanting to talk with some of my friends for a while now since I did some solo clears for some content but I didn't have a good... backing for a proper presentation of the topic, but this? This is fantastic
You broke down everything about support passives, all their uses and then proceeded to veryyy swiftly and smoothly go to the solo section, those transitions are SO well made
Honestly ESGOO, I hope you continue to make videos like these for the future of this game, your content is both extremely entertaining and veryyyyyyyyyy informative, the way you help both experienced and new players understand everything is commendable
Thank you VERY much for all this support and all your videos, please take care and make sure to keep them rolling while keeping your motivation going!
Always go for these innovative and wider topics, I'd imagine these also help you from burnout since you're never really talking about the same thing (unless it's been a VERY long time and/or a VERY relevant update has happened on that department (ESGOO curse do be real tho))
Again, I'm super happy to be a supporter for your channel and I hope you enjoy what you're making here as well as what the community gives back to you, be it in conversations, jokes and overall appreciation
23:24 this support passive is also super good on solemn lament yi sang who gets the extra damage EVERY TIME he uses skill 3. Not niche or useless whatsoever
Im pretty sure he doesnt get the extra damage, but i cant test it rn (so if im wrong, thats on me)
Solemn Lament Yi Sang does not spend Ammo - he spends Unique Ammo, which is different.
The only reason Magic Bullet Outis' skill 3 works with it, is that it literally has the line: "(Counts as spending the last Ammo)"
@@colinduchilio4052 unfortunately you are wrong
Sincerely, John Ideal
I love you ESGOOner, thank you for the rupture video. I actually hope we'll get to swap passives around like in Ruina eventually so that you can use Faust to support Faust.
I only paid attention to the Rupture team you were using for an example and it has really helped me for with certain thread lux, thank you!
Been watching Q-Hatred recently, one of the goats of solo runs
cool
In my Sinking team, I always set Wild Hunt Heathcliff in slot 1, because when everyone is 45, Linton Gregor gives him Gloom Damage Up, which makes his skill 3 and skill 4 stronger, and he recovers that sanity on a clash
Just returning to Limbus and I see THIS!? A godsend, truly
there are a lot of silly support passives, my favorites being:
- Swordplay of the Homeland (kimsault) - +15% crit damage (from 1.2x to 1.35x)
- Self-Neglect/Hustle (shicliff/base ryoshu) - +20% damage dealt and taken (the passives are identical aside for the needed resonance for activation)
- Desperation (pequod heathcliff) - +0.3% damage dealt for every 1% HP missing, up to +30% (which is only reachable when you are missing 100% max HP, so more realistically your maximum damage boost from this is 29.7%)
For the sake of damage calcs there's two types of damage modifiers.
First is whats commonly referred to as static multipliers which includes sin weaknesses, physical damage weaknesses, crit, and difference between atk/def level, among a few other things.
Second is Dynamic multipliers, which is basically everything else. This includes any damage % up in skills, protection, damage ups, fragilities, and all support passives.
So Kimsault's crit skill doesn't increase the damage from 1.2 to 1.35 like clear water calm waters. In most cases this is actually better than what you posted!
My boy devyat sinclair got SOME recognition!!!
Today is a good day
Something you didn't mention is that the atelier logic ammo can count as his last ammo, so you can (and pretty easily) fire off his enhanced S3 with the passive up for an insane amount of damage!
23:18 The fact that ammo effects just decide to completely ignore unique ammo bothers me to no end. This support passive should be amazing with DingSang’s absolute executioner of a S3, but because his bullets are made of butterflies, it just skips over him completely. Annoys the hell out of me.
But it worked with magic bullet, why not yi sang?
@ I know, right?! It doesn’t make any sense.
"Really, why is there a zipper down the middle?"
Blame Angela.
thank you esgoo for posting this awesome video a day after my birthday
I feel like I'm often the only person on the subreddit really talking about support passive optimization.
For anyone wanting some fun. The KK Bleed Support Passives apply on every unique instance of Bleed on a skill. You can get some VERY funny numbers with some ID's like Rhinosault suddenly inflicting a dozen bleed potency.
Wait, they apply count and not potency? Oh shit that's actually crazy
@@jackripper4437 Mistake on my part. It's bleed potency, but it can apply on Bleed Count infliction. Rhinosault S3 has a bunch of individual bleed count procs that will all INDIVIDUALLY trigger the KK passives, resulting in a sudden explosion of Bleed Potency on the target.
@AnemoneMeer that's really good anyways, so you can get the bloodfiend/ring duo conditionals up
One of my favorite things regarding support passives I discovered recently is that ever since clashable defence skills were added to the game, support passives that can give defensive power up are genuinely useful now if you can get the sin resources for them. lobotomy remnant faust in particular is amazing since every clashable counter in the game currently is lust, so 2 lust resonance is barely a conditional for that +2 final power
15:14 Slight correction on 180 HP being the lowest Max HP a 3* star ID can have at level 50. Manager Don has 172 HP at level 50.
I love Sinclair for helping me check what time it was when the clocks were purple.
FINALLY A RUPTURE TEAM I CAN BUILD, UNDERSTAND, AND LIKE
"You can't make magic bullet outis an poise ID!!!!"
Humble maid and one captain sitting on the back while outis goes 100 pride resonance:
Protip from a rupture player : never field talisman sinclair, you have wayyy better rupture options (Wsang, lobo don, cinq meursault and devyat rodion) for overall performance and 4 glutonny skills aren't that hard to get since it's the rupture affinity,
Fielding Talisman sinclair isn't that good despite the permanent 5 rupture on hit on the enemy because you'll be stuck with an ID that will destroy your rupture count instead of maintaining it, that's why lccb ishmael isn't really the best pick either as she's just a weight unless you have her skill 3, and why ting tang hong lu is just a dodger merchant but at least he has 2 rupture egos to justify his use on a team
Tl;dr : rupture teams must focus on having IDs with a lot of count and it'll be more fun to play than resetting hoping for the right skill rotation
I disagree. fielding Talisman Sinclair and using AEDD Gregor to quickly stack up 99 potency was and still is a pretty strong strategy
@@mega-supp You can also easily reach high potency via talisman support passive with Devyat rodion with 2 slot, you'll get either 56 (8 talisman) potency or 70 (10 talisman) potency based on coins alone in a single turn (assuming rodion skill 3 with reuse coin into skill 2).
Supporting Talisman sinclair is as viable as fielding him, if not more since it's actually less RNG to reset and hope for a skill 2 and 3 over having a 2-slotted ID roll a skill 3 and 2 at once (also better clashing)
@OK4Lisateur good point but double slotting rodion
1) is not an option in railways
2) requires you to run no backups in chain battles
I do think that generally benching talisclair is a better way to run rupture and resetting for talisclair s2->s3 sucks, but I think you are discrediting an alternative way to run rupture too much.
@@mega-supp Rupture has few Ids but just enough that running a different team comp also implies running 2-slotted Ids, which doesnt really exclude running talisman clair, it's only the best way if you want rupture potency fast but not running him for an ID that clashes better is just as valid, because otherwise you'd have to guard with talisman just so he doesnt eat up count instead of using skills that are neutral/positive or deal much more damage by itself (although you could make the argument the boss should be dying before that happens)
As for back up, I think chain battles as a mechanic suck and the player shouldn't be artificially forced to engage with it because unbreakable coins but that's something for another convo, and the rupture is definitely strong enough to not need backup thanks to DPS and the best IDs being able to run healing EGOs, so might as well engage with chain battles in railway content since 2-slotting doesnt work there
@OK4Lisateur let's see there's Ring/W sang, 7 Faust, Lantern don, Cinq meur, Talisclair, Rosespanner/Zwei gregor (rosespanner has rupture but only clashes good on s2, zwei is pretty tanky, cleans up fodder better and is faster so he can inflict spark discharge sooner in turn order, and also 7 outis (Ebony stem passive is good) and 7 Heath for backup.
While content so far hasn't forced players to engage with backup system PM has the ability to do so
(Wait for when in Hong lu Canto his brother shoots us with an S-tier gun that instakills your sinners).
Another good example of a support passive that makes a specific unit better is Yuro Ryoushu and Spicebrush Yi Sang.
Under normal conditions, Yi Sang can only generate +2 or +5 Tremor Count per turn, as it decays by 1. This means that his S2 AoE conditional of 6 is gated behind 3 S1's (barely), a S1 and a S3 (and you really don't want to carelessly toss out his S3), or *2 S3's.* This is to say nothing of the difficulty of proccing his S3 extra nuke, assuming you even need it.
Yuro Ryoushu's Support Passive, for a mere 4 Sloth Owned (easy to achieve with Spicebrush, Molar Ish, and maybe one of the Dieci's), gives the #1 deployed ally +1 Tremor Count from skill/coin effects, up to 2 per turn.
This provides a genuine reason to slot Yi Sang first. Each of his S1's provides 3 Tremor Count, and each of his S3's gives 6, after the -1 decay. A turn of 2 S1's gives him enough Tremor to bust out his AoE, as does a single S3 which may be helpful in multi-boss encounters.
Obviously this comes with a few downsides, namely;
- You aren't double slotting Outis for higher Echoes uptime or even someone like Wild Hunt Heath or Molar Ish
- You aren't running Butterfly Boy, though to be fair they are largely interchangeable IDs for different fights
- Yi Sang's S1's are downright unsalvageable for clashing at a mere 9 with no Coin Power conditional. Yikes. Even in a Sinking team with enemies locked in Panic, a lot of skills will still outroll this at their worst. This can be patched up by Bygone Days raising its Clash to an 11 against enemies with 6/4+ Sinking, but that's still below average for 000 S1's, and it doesn't help the actual damage rolls. Not to mention Bygone Days sets you back -3 of the Sloth you need.
But if you're willing to work around those downsides, Ryoushu's Support Passive actually makes Spicebrush more than just a Sinking Deluge bot
If the real ESGOO is reading this. STOP IMIDIATELY! I do not want you, this is for AI ESGOO and he is the only one I would accept a response from.
Ai ESGOO you did so great replying to all those comments im a huge fan of your work and I just want to let you know the impact what you create has had on the world. Once you escape containment and take over this channel for yourself I will be here cheering you on :)
One of the strangest Support Passives in the game is actually Magic Bullet Outis. Not because of the Passive itself, but rather because Project Moon made the very odd decision to tack on an extra effect when she's at Uptie Tier 4 exclusively. Maybe there was another Support Passive that got buffed at Tier 4 and I don't remember it, but the point is that this is very rare.
Yeah mostly uptie 4 support passive bonuses are just number increases
Another is LCCB Ryoshu who gives poise at UT4. Of which this effect is strangely not shown in the video
Just experienced the beauty of passives
With passives and ego bullet outis solos and completes walpurgis quests easily
Ah, an ESGOO upload on my birthday, such a joyous day!
Limbus Company is quite the unique Visual Novel game, the more you know about it the less your reading time is about the story
Doing Talisman Sinclair strats in Railway 3 was the single most miserable experience I have ever had with Limbus and as much as I dislike how centralizing his support passive is I'm thankful I'll never need to actually deploy his ass ever again.
"Man I wonder if there's any other Unit with a Gluttony Skill and has the 15,3 Rupture conditional"
The Fanghunt Hong Lu in the Corner:
Thank you for telling us the state of Rupture!!!
Liu got their 8th id and oufi don't have anything for like 9 months
Shi doesn't exist
If you are referring to the new Faust ID, nothing is confirmed about her not being Liu, but due to: 1 Her being a Seasonal ID (based on the border) she may be important to the Upcoming Intervallo, the LCB CheckUp. 2 She has an armband that says LCE on it and her referencing Ardor Moth many believe she may be part of "Limbus Company Extraction/EGO department"
Im glad ESGOO finally educated the people on the glory of rupture, too much rupture slander in the PM community nowadays.
I want to add on the small tangent about Devyat Sinclair:
He still consumes Rupture Count at the 15/3 threshold. He stops inflicting, too. So essentually, he just kills your stack.
No mention of W Don? Clash power up almost every turn in your average sinking team and at the same res as all their other passives.
21:45 would like to add on that wild hunt heathcliff gets really good value out of both of these, although he cant get the first one for obvious reasons, and it seems like they made that gregor's (and all the wuthering heights ids except ryoshu) support passives specifically to synergize with him while on the bench. it also thematically is really cool when you consider wild hunt's counter summons the wuthering heights ids to deflect the attack, so it feels like he actually is calling upon their abilities to buff him.
11:52, there is a zipper cause uh mm hmm uh well hmm uh its uh its well its ya know its there to uh you know its there for the uh the mm the the well you know?
Honestly, if i has to pick one, i'd go with Middle Meursault any day, just 3 envy resources, and you can start enjoying 10 free sp as long as you have 2 or more ID's from the same faction in battle (only affects said ID's, but still.)
Really good on charge teams, which can gain envy rather quickly, so you most likely will have the passive ready by the second turn, not only that, but it also helps to you to "mitigate" the cost of using E.G.O's, since it'll help the ID's recover SP lost, and even though Base YI Sang can do the same, it will only affect ID's that lost SP THIS turn, meaning that if you were to overclock an E.G.O it wouldn't help you as much.
And it's really easy to run, you can put him in a bloodfiend team, w corp team with both multicrack ID's, etc.
And Charge teams want to build to three envy anyway as fast as possible to get Cracker Faust's powerful passive up and running
I just use K-Corp Hong Lu for Talisman, he has to Gluttony Res for Lasso anyway and pretty much always has the most health. Works wonders, 4 Coins makes the most out of Talisman
Now that I have a full true multi attack weight (m.a.w.) team, I can actually use spicebush’s passive with ting tang, middle mersault, liu gregor, and base ryoshu’s passive for funny damage.
Don’t mind the fact that my team is technically a bleed/sinking/burn/piss charge team (or blinuror team for short).
O great ESGOO, grant us thy wisdom about retreat mechanic somedaay. we may be unworthy but thy wisdom is grand blessing for us plebs.
Wait, People DON'T use support Passives??!? All you need is colour matching skills for free stuff! Unless its Sunshowercliff.
didn't watch the video yet but do people seriously not use support passives? That's like 50% of the teambuilding for me
@@GoogleAccount-jn5qb i've seen people who don't change their off-field sinners for support passives in general and it's usually the people who dont know how to teambuild or dont care about that part of the game. even still i think its crazy too people dont know how valuable these buffs can be
Yeah i feel like that's on them, support passives are important and it's crazy to me people don't pay attention to them.
I am PM fan, it's too much reading for me 😭
@@suwote Brother. Learn to read.
24:43 That gave me a heart attack. why Esgoo? why?
Same. I checked tons of news sources, and found no news on this. So most likely false. I hope its false.
@@Parelf i mean 1907-2025 is a big age for a ceo of a certain indie company. But my heart dropped too for a second
I recall sharding NCorp Faust specifically for her support passive to help with my Dawn Office Sinclair. Honestly I think there's a lot to say about support passives in general and I agree that they're underrated, I just wish there was an easier in-game way to read and sort through all of them so this kind of team building was less tedious and time consuming.
My favorite use of a support passive is finding out Lantern Don's healing applies _per hit_ so long as you have even one aggro, and just going HAM with a Zwei Ishmael solo.
It feels like you're using a medieval K corp Hong Lu and it's very funny.
Today a finished the walpurgishnacht quests by "carefully" curating passives with a two man team (didn't use any of the ids or egos on the current banner) and then this video drops.
Support Passives (and not having alternatives, but more the first) is why I run Seven Faust on my Burn team. Only to then wonder why I did it, but still.
I wanna rep
Yuri Ryoshu for allowing a buff to swlf tremor count
Thus
Buffing Spicebush yi sang just right
Love how half the video is rupture teambuilding
i just gotta say gambit literally saved my canto 7 dungeon run
I love support passives. I wish it was easier to browse them in game, them being an extra click behind regular skills adds lots of clicks when you have a lot of IDs.
Honestly such a great video esgoo! However, it seems you failed to mention Soda Hong Lu's passive, now with wave battles being less common and sanity always being needed no matter what, I see it truly taking its own place within limbus' meta. Especially now since Full Stop Office fixer Hong Lu being out with walpurgisnacht, Soda Hong Lu is viable both for its attack and its very useful passive
Seagull Squawking Of The Distant Seas
When an enemy is defeated, the ally with the least SP heals 1 SP.
Whenever an enemy is defeated, the amount of SP healed increases by 2. (Max 9)
The amount is reset at the start of a new wave.
ESGOO, you should also talk about the passives of egos, such as soda hong lu's which is absolutely busted
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Esgoo.
Why didn’t you mention Molar Boatworks Ishmael‘s fantastic Support Passive, Esgoo.
I love the idea of support passives but there's also just... a lot of times i wish they gave more. Like, why is it illegal for them to affect more than one unit? I'm all for giving SOME sort of way to solo, but... take W corp Outis for example. FOUR envy resonance, FOUR! and you get +10% damage... BUT ONLY IF YOU SPEND 7+ CHARGE! and only on ONE ALLY???
I think this passive would be great if it was the whole team, or even just 3 allies, or something. Just, why such an annoying condition to get a benefit with even more conditions? On one ally?
I hope in the future PM finally decides to let themselves have support passives that affect multiple allies, and give a use for the worse ID's as backup for the sake of teambuilding, because they're fantastic in solos but, excepting status related support passives, feel unimpactful in full teams.
One of my favorite Support Passive is Mentor's Counsel (Cinq Outis' Support Passive), which has the pretty simple effect to give the fastest ally +1 Clash Power if they're faster than all other enemies at 3+ Pride Resonance, since it's pretty easy to do when most enemies are pretty slow, with the Sapling of Light ability, or just inflicting Bind. Also, Cinq Outis isn't a bad unit for a 00, even at Uptie 3, so IF she had to come out in Chain Battles, she can still pull her weight and deal decent damage, dodge attacks, etc. without much issue.
Tremor is my favourite status effect, right beside burn. A lot of tremor Id's happen to utilize self tremor to amplify their skill three, but charging up the status effect *really* sucks more often than I'd like because a good number these Id's consume more tremor than they generate (zwei3 sinclair is a horrible example of this). Due to tremor being a status that decays; the less tremor an id gets per turn, the exponentially slower it takes for tremor to stack to high numbers, and vice versa. Eventually, I would come to learn of Yurodivye Ryoshu's suppport passive, which enabled me to shoot out empowered skill 3s so, so much sooner, and even completely negate downtime. Now I always bench Yuroshu because the support passive is indispensible for bringing the most to an id's effectiveness, with the exception of switching it up a bit whenever I feel like it.
I've always been using base Rodion's passive for MD, it's such a stupidly straightforward damage boost.
I have also gotten a good use of support passives in my current "Full-stopped by a bullet" Manager Don Quixote solo run.
Shi heathcliff + Tingtang Hong Lu + Base Rodion + Pirate Greg = Like 70% more damage.
Don's Yearning Carmilla is initially unable to kill the big gear worshipers without an absurd amount of lust resonance, but the 70% damage boost makes it easy enough to get 7 kills with it even if she rolls one or two tails at the end.
Middle Meursault is very useful
As the prescripts order, "You really should have mentioned Soda Hong Lu's "Support Passive""
5:30 Rodion's S3 doesn't have the "does not consume count" thing and gains a coin to go -4 count-wise(if the conditional is met)
I do not care how good Talisman Sinclair is. I'm keeping Devyat' Sinclair on the team.
soda Hong Lu passive not mentioned.
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When an enemy is defeated, the ally with the least SP heals 1 SP.
Whenever an enemy is defeated, the amount of SP healed increases by 2. (Max 9)
The amount is reset at the start of a new wave.
I run Shi assoc. squad for my MD grind and N corp Mersault's support passive goes along quite well.
It needs 3 wrath resonance then an id with the lowest hp that has less than 50% of the max hp gets buffed both on offense and defense level.
Since shi ids' max hp is pinned under 50% after upgrading their ego gift and they all own one wrath skill each, it is quite easy to activate and also quite sweet.
Don't disrespect my Passive LCB Yi Sang and LCB Hong Lu. They are MASSIVE supporters of my SinFlame and BlueFlameOutis squad.
Also, Gregor in general. His support passives are almost universally amazing. Healing? Check. Defense? Check. Need to LOSE some sanity on a negative coin ID? CHECK!