Jordan Peterson Responds to Philosopher Tierlist (AI)
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- Опубликовано: 20 апр 2023
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Using Jordan Peterson's AI voice as a mouthpiece to reflect on my philosopher tierlist video 9 months later.
Shoutout to TallBart for inspiring this format. 
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The only thing silly about the tier list is that you didn't include the greatest philosopher of our times, Jaden Smith
Lmao
I was hoping the name was going to be Diogenes.
@@derekcampbell2686 i dont joke about Diogenes
😂😂
Drake is my favorite philosopher
Did he just psychoanalyze the whole youtube comment section thats amazing
This is it folks, this year's most awaited sequel.
Nietzsche, Freud and Jung would be ashamed of sharlatans like Jordan Peterson. Peterson took a clear side in our current childish culture war and therefore outed himself as a slave moralist.
i thought that comment section was so funny cause u literally say in the vide that ranking these people is not something to be taken seriously and that u were doing it in a completely laid back way with your criteria etc, and still u get some people that criticised it for being subjective and silly lmao
I mean, people are allowed to think his rankings are trash. Subjectivity doesn't make disagreement less likely, it makes it more likely, which is why scientific method go brrrr
Eh it's popular on RUclips comment section, they tend to be the least "impressive" part of any belief, brand, concept, person, etc
historians say duncan is still rustling the jimmies of armchair philosophers in the comment section to this day...
You should honestly do another philosopher tier list with some others like, Epicurus, Seneca, Voltaire, etc. and some of these newer "philosophers" like Andrew Tate
Andrew Tate is just an alternate reality Peterson.
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@@angamaitesangahyando685 Andrew Tate and Jordan B. Peterson have basically nothing in common. Peterson is a real, influential and respectable philosopher, while Andrew is basically just an “influencer”.
@@Ludovicus1769 "respectable" huh? Please listen to enough people with actual philosophy education and you'll see what the consensus really is. You can have your opinion but JP is an infamous one, not even considered a philosopher by most.
@@canti7951 No, of course he’s not considered a philosopher. He doesn’t consider himself a philosopher either. But nonetheless he has a philosophy, and his take on Jungian psychology is NOT infamous.
@@Ludovicus1769 I agree with how he incorporates Jung into his ideas. I've taken a lot of inspiration from his psych lectures on yt. But I know you know he also explores countless other philosophical topics such as identity, christianity, post modernism, so called "cultural marxism", sovereignty, etc. Much of these topics he has a severe misunderstanding of, too many philosophers criticized his misrepresentation of marxism and downplaying of post modernist thinkers. He has a philosophy and it's based on not so solid grounds which is why many others refuse to call him a philosopher to begin with. To me, he's basically just the right side of the same "woke" coin when it comes to politics.
Fake. He didn’t even burst into tears.
Fuck yeah man, You really showed the 50+ year old man who was upset about his wife having cancer !
This is fucking low... even by JBP hater standards
@@doctordice2doctordice210 He cries at the most mundane things: ruclips.net/video/-W9DRDp0T5s/видео.html
And it's okay to laugh, because his politics are as cancerous as the cancer his will has, after all, he does heavily advocate for the far right pedofile Matt Gaetz and lackies, who just attempted to congress off in an attempt to pass a bill that would have cut a ton of things including cancer research: www.whitehouse.gov/omb/briefing-room/2023/04/20/congressional-republicans-legislation-22-cuts-that-would-harm-american-families-seniors-and-veterans/
After you go clean your room, clean your brain.
Yeah, I won't lie, like or dislike Jordan Peterson, I think it's okay to cry if you're emotionally overwhelmed
this is a great video the first half is a wonderful satire of jps fans and then the second half is a wonderful description of the way that incentive structures mold the way media is created
Well said
I wanna watch this but don’t even wanna hear his voice 😂
he didnt even talk about how duncan put marx in a tier
It was a fun video! You communicate your ideas and present knowledge so clearly when tackling philosophy, I really don't know what all the reddit moment hate was about.
Redditors are characterized by two things. Their ignorance and their inability to recognize their own ignorance. This perfectly applies to Duncan
@@ijon-y4549 Duncan gave a highly subjective, non-serious criteria and people are surprised that he followed it. It's like watching an 18+ movie and being mad about the sex/drugs/violence. Some of you really just need to develop listening skills.
@@ijon-y4549nah this applies to the ppl hating on Duncan because Duncan made it clear his tier list was in no way objective. Y'all are salty that no one agrees with your reactionary and authoritarian worldviews.
@@ijon-y4549 Lol,you got roasted,burn 🔥, Maybe listen carefully to the disclaimer
@@jamesmcpherson8599 subjectivity does not render you immune to criticism. Including people who are largely irrelevant to the greater world of philosophy, like JP and the barrage of weirdo frensh philosophers he put in his list, while excluding other notable greats of the field, makes it seem like the fine line between bias and ignorance has been crossed
This is delightful.
I'm so happy I watched the other video and read the comments before watching this
Another Duncan banger ofc
Please never stop with this channel
0/10 jordan peterson didn’t sound like he was crying
That clip of him crying was over male suicide or someone finding happiness from his advice.
you should do a video glossary of philosophy I think it would still get lots views despite being less fun
The problem is that the episode for the letter B would be 17 hours long just for the wors Being
Came here looking for the "insentives"
Great video!
1:05 is the best moment
This is epic. very good.
he would never be this coherent :/
This one is amazing actually
Because the only way the lefties can somehow “defeat” JP is based on fabrications. That tells a lot.
Lmfaooo absolutely love this video.
That conclusion was amazing!
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This is epic
Kind of scary that this might as well be his reaponse.
Spoken like a guy who never actually cared to watch him tbh
@@doctordice2doctordice210 he used a story from Skyfall. JP is random as hell.
I really like what you made)
The dramatic zoom into “1M views” at the exact time AI-JP expresses confusion over the intention is the stuff of legends ✨
What a smart man
the AI stripped Jordan of his canadian accent
fucking amazing
love it ❤
This is genius!
As a Jordan Peterson neuron, I can relate.
Ok, I’ll play your game and post mean comments for the engagement
i like this channel
Why bro moving at 1 fps
This made me laugh out loud.
I have never read a piece of work from Ayn Rand, beyond some paragraphs and extracts here and there on the internet. I never gave Objectivism, her system of thought, much importance.
But there are people -Objectivists- who think she is one of the greatest, or the greatest, philosopher ever (along with Aristotle, they'll add). Sometimes, Objectivists tell people who have not read Rand to read her, so that they can become rational, and abandon their "non-Objectivist, mystical beliefs".
I haven't read anything from Rand because I consider that the effort won't be worth it, as every time I've read something from Objectivists, I have not been persuaded that there is much to be learned from Rand. And also, there exists a critique available on the net that demolishes Objectivism.
This conclusion, however, has to be qualified. Should we reject views just because others with good qualifications say they ought to be rejected, and there are no critiques of their arguments for the rejections? Usually, yes. Such combination of factors is a very good reason to reject something without reading about it. This is how we generally go about in our life: rarely we go to the depths of Physics' journals to believe or disbelieve claims that physicists make. If a lot of people who have studied a subject for a long time agree on something, that is evidence for that something. It is not ultimate evidence, but the burden of proof is on you is you want to go against the consensus.
So defenders of ideas that are out of the consensus of relevant experts should take the best critiques that have been made against them, and refute them. It would also be nice for them to provide a brief introduction to their ideas, to reduce the cost for others of acquiring information about those ideas.
As someone who read both Hymn (wouldn't recommend) and The Fountainhead (recommend) by Ayn Rand and came out more of a leftie and constructivist than I was before, let me make the case for why you should give her books a chance. She is definitely a somewhat skilled writer and I'd be very surprised if the reason you can't finish her novels is because you dislike the prose that much or the story bores you. In fact, I think she found one of the most engaging ways to introduce her ideology to those who haven't heard of it before. Her stories are captivating, the characters (although often flat, more on that later) are unique and interesting enough for the purpose they serve in her books and honestly the way she writes romance and sex is refreshing to see, when most right-wingers you see online are the most fun-averse people you will ever have the displeasure to meet. I had also never read a political/philosophical work that left me with such a clear understanding of the kind of world she wishes for all of us to live in (put differently: you get a really good idea of her praxis). All of that combined makes it so you have an excellent basis to give a critique of her work and ideas, because not only is she very open about what she belives in, but also very clear in her communication and is A LOT more honest than most prominent, modern right wing thought leaders. Her books challenge your beliefs in a very helpful way, because they never feel in bad faith or shrouded in hyperbole/non-sequiturs/long winded diatribes/etc. It's also hilarious how the Fountainhead specifically is it's own best counter argument, because to make her ideology work she has to invent a guy who is in no way less fantastic than a superhero like Hulk or a mythological figure like Hercules. Like I said, I recommend it, if for no other reason than to understand this philosophy and ideology better that is definitely not without followers, even though most of them have never heard of "objectivism" or "laissez-faire capitalism".
Something I can warn you about that you might find off-putting and annoying though: All the "good" (and yes unfortunately her books characters run along a very clear good/bad divide) people agree with her philosophically, while all the "bad" people disagree and she has no shame to include someone who is of almost not importance to the story, for the sole purpose of showing "this is what the good people are like" and "this is what the bad people are like".
This is also a reddit video, that is exactly how I would describe this. Boo!!!
I love the videos, mate.❤
I love this 😂😂😂
please post more 😔
its really difficult to guess the intent of the duncan as the creator of this video. sometimes he uses the ai peterson to make fun of peterson, sometimes to be the personification/speaker for the commenters on the tier list video, sometimes as a speaker for duncan's thoughts and concerns, and sometimes for pure humour.
it's actually isn't, i just wanted to point out how the role of ai peterson changes throughout the video
you just impressed me only to do this XD
do a video on uhhh
corn
or why oatmeal is a meal but not a full meal while some full meals are not considered meals espacially if it is something fulfilling and nutritious
like corn
Greatest video on the channel. Doesn't matter when you read this
Peterson not know how to pronounce "Königsberg" confirmed.
Im glad he got some push back for the reddit takes
valid
No Diogenes in the tier list?? 😢 Don't you wanna hang out with him?
Jordan Peterson in F-tier is the real based take.
Absolutely yes
If it's not so much as based for a redditor take, it doesn't qualify as based in any fashion.
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Wonderfully meta
for some reason AI Jordan Peterson reminds me of AI Donald Trump from his Megadeth album tier list
jordan has to much of a ego to be this BASE duncan you give him to much credit
All I can think while watching this: William Burroughs, cutup. Is it a fair comparison?
Every ai version of him talking is so much better than him actually talking
How so? Does he communicate too clearly for you?
He didn't use fundamentally once! hwat are you doing here don't you have some sheets to fold? @@Ludovicus1769
@@Ludovicus1769nah he's just a smug jbp hater like the rest of em, don't waste your breath he'll just act like he's above you if he ever responds lol
@@Ludovicus1769the AI is much clear than him
Dude. Have you ever listened to any Peterson's university lectures? I got hooked from your linguistic iceberg video, you're a smart dude. You should listen to either his maps of meaning, personality and it's transformations, or the psychologoical significance of the biblical stories lectures. If you ignore anything political and all the various 5 or 10 minute sound bytes and clips of him, and just listen to his clinical/philosophical work, i bet you'd change your mind about him.
Also yes, contra points made an excellent video about him. Why let a personal belief about which "political side" you're on keep you from the magic of discovery and insight though? Peterson is uncannily smart and he'd be the first to admit the shoulders of giants he sits on. He has much interesting to say.
Contra points and making good points are mutually exclusive things
Also you can never really convince people who write him off that he has anything to say, it's like trying to get apples from a lemon tree
@@doctordice2doctordice210 Haha, aye. I just respected that Contra seemed to of at least listened to some notable amount of Peterson and formulated personal and thoughtful opinions rather than just blow him off as a vapid fraud and bigoted simpleton.
I think I've had more mind bending amd useful epiphanies from listening to Jordan Peterson than all other epiphanies past and still to be had combined.
@@tigadirt you know, my violent disinterested in breadtube aside, I'll say that at least old contra seemed like sensible person with their own thoughts at least
Newer contra is so spineless, her fanbase destroyed her lol
@@doctordice2doctordice210 damn. To be honest I'm starting to feel a touch the same about Peterson. I think he's leaning to hard into the stern old man with a heavy axe to grind. Puts a lot of people off from getting interested in him. Probably listened to all his older stuff 4 times over by now though.
@@tigadirt Jordan went full conservative prudent nowadays so I kinda lost touch with him, whenever I watch him I choose to go back and listen to his older stuff
It's honestly fascinating how both of them went more ""radical"" as time went by...
4:28
Just to add to the meta:
“Incentives” not “Insentives”.
rip anyone that's tried maps of meaning. Its unreadable.
Funny I wonder if he was inspired by Checkmate Lincolnites!!
”Here is my personal tier-list, ranking philosophers based on perceived value, an inherently subjective activity”
Big-brained Followers of Peterson: ”this is…….biased?! A-a-and not….factual?!!!”
Also "tier-listing philosophers is stupid" my brother in christ do you think everyone lacks as much self-awareness as you do??
Pesonal opinions can be shit and I am free to criticize your retarded opinions if I want to.
UHm facts don't care abotua yopur feelings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you all really that retarded, or just trolling? Saying that a personal work of yours is "biased" does not render it immune to criticism, it just shifts the criticism from the work itself, directly onto the person making it. From what I've gleaned, the main criticism of this video does not focus on the fact that it's biased, but the fact that the creator has a weird fixation on irrelevant french philosophers, while leaving out many greats. It seizes being a critique of the work and extends to become a critique of the author himself.
Imagine for a second, if a climate change denier made a poorly researched video about how climate change is fake, but prefaced it with "but I dunno man, that's just my opinion, dude" does that also render him immune to criticism?
@@ijon-y4549 Philosophy is like art that you can critique and enjoy, it’s incredibly subjective yet fun to argue about. Climate Change is objectively fact.
I don't know why I watched this entire video but okay 🤣
This channel is still seething over JP? Dude go outside 😂
i want proofs that this audio wasn`t generated by AI
This audio was generated by AI. It's in the title. The script was written by me
@@duncanclarke oh 😂
Lmao
Ai made videos are madd uncanny
Omg THAT'S so epic and the fact that JP has to go back to school makes this👌🏻
Very unrealistic. The voice cracks and the crying are missing.
Diogenes > "tierlist"
Imagine thinking that philosophy could be anything but biased when it's all just thinking about stuff and making claims with absolutely nothing backing it up other than "bro trust me"
I guess the point of Peterson not being a philosopher and his inclusion in a list of philosophers is ludicrous to the point of being an attempt at fan service. From the earlier videos I was just expecting more, but should have taken the hint when someone discussing philosophy mispronounces ‘qualia’. A tip would be to not worry about including assclowns who aren’t philosophers. It’s obvious that people who care about philosophy are going to have to sit on their hands while the dolts who can’t tell a philosopher from a psychologist get lured in by hoping to see pot shots being taken at public figures they dislike. 🙄
Worst of all, your Peterson voice synthesiser doesn’t even remotely sound enough like Kermit the Frog to be convincing.
I won't lie the qualia thing is a bit embarrassing. It's one of those words I've seen written down a lot more than I've heard it spoken
Counterpoint; all of Jordan's fans are armchair philosophers that call him one, and he's viewed as a philosopher by the majority of conservatives. Also, discounting a person's qualifications because of a mispronunciation is the most reddit thing I could imagine.
@@RaeIsGaeecountercounterpoint: you have pronoun slashes in your bio, therefore all your points are invalid
@@xWingzTV Triggered
This is why I never tell anyone I'm into philosophy. They'll just think I'm one of these 🤓-looking ahh egocentric clowns who think they know shit better than everyone.
This is a very good illustration of why misinformation is so prevalent nowadays. Misinformation is just more profitable due to the increased engagement it will bring. The algorithm creates a selection bias on stuff that trigger strong emotions (which, I think, is a big reason we see more "Us vs them".rhetoric too. Content becomes more polarising and less nuanced).
Never knew AI-generated videos could be that insightful, lol 🤣
Now that's how you fck with criticism
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I do agree that their work should be separated from who they are are as a person
And what happens when their personal, negative aspects manifest themselves in their work? Are you supposed to ignore those as well?
@@RaeIsGaee you may not be able to but I can separate s philosophers work and the person. I may not agree with their lifestyle choices but I can respect and still benefit from their writings. I can also do that with politicians, musicians, entertainers, scientists, atheist, agnostics, literature, Christians. Might not agree with their life choices but I can respect their work and still benefit from it. May not agree with what some conquers did in the past but it still can prove beneficial to get inside their heads.
In the end you are just blocking yourself and doing yourself a disservice by not being able to separate the two.
@@mr.retrohale6673 Dodging the question so you can act self-righteous, typical.
@@RaeIsGaee no I answered your question. You just refuse to understand. I don't agree with Nietzsches lifestyle beliefs that manifest into his work but I can still learn a lot of from him.
@@mr.retrohale6673 So you don't agree with Hitler being a Nazi, but you agree with his Nazi beliefs when you're reading Mein Kampf.
That's how you sound, lmao
Way to coherant. Lacks unnecessary verboseness and mushroomification of the audience.
Mushroomification?
@@camelopardalis84 You cultivate them by keeping them in the dark and piling excrament on them.
@@gm2407 That one is fantastic!
This is such a Reddit video!!!
not a good impression, Peterson is too clear and precise in his speech
I'm a simple man. I am a subscriber of this channel, I see this video, and I unsubscribe.
Oh shit that video got dislike bombed so hard wtf
Coming across a bit obsessed now
People love to hate Peterson
Yes because he's an idiot
@@buubakuShow us your Psychology degree big guy
10/10*
You didn’t use complicated words to sound smart mr peterson! I didn’t like your response! 🤣
Is this a joke? I don't know why people dunk on JP. I don't understand
He literally works for the Daily Wire, is payed by Oil Lobbyists, and constantly fearmongers on twitter about some nebulously defined "wokeness."
If you like JP you are like an actual zombie that could be convinced by any man that speaks with conviction, gives you a category of people to blame things on, and throws in one or two legitimate pieces of life advice along with his fearmongering propoganda.
just search peterson grandma dream
Because he's a grifter who's ideas boil down too "give the rich all your money it's your fault for being poor"
With how many hours of him speaking exists on the internet I’m surprised by how poor the impression is…
Jordan is SS tier
This is hilarious. Laugh out loud.
I still don’t get why you would make an AI voice generated video of this guy.
You should do a modern “philosopher” tier list with people like Ben Shapiro and Andrew tate. love your videos
i love the power of AI i heard jp say the n word
Nuh uh!
Lol
lol
fake. he doesnt sound like a whiny kermit the frog
😂
You make some good points but I have always personally disliked this man.
Hard cope
Reddit moment
Jordan Peterson should stick to psychology. Is a very unwell person and generally not super bright, when it comes to most any issue outside of his field
He tried switching because he was already a shit psychologist.
Cope, the tierlist sucks because you put Heidegger in D tier but Sartre, Beauvoir and Marx in A tier
Thats why it is Reddit, not because Jordan Peterson fans
Why would you let the video call you out twice 😂 you already got dunked on, why are you still trying to play ball 😂
Wait, really? Heidegger, one of the foundational ontologists in history? And Marx, that famous pseudohistorian? Yikers indeed.
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@@momolili308 dunked on? lol that was completely trash and this video is just deflection, sure the video was supposed to be subjective but that doesn't mean he can misrepresent philosophy's of people he doesn't politically agree with, most people didn't even care about JP but putting Marx on A with Socrates and some other crazy fucking ratings is why people disliked it but you keep on dick riding this youtouber ig
Wokery 😂🤣😂