I saw both of the HML prototypes and the rail car version while on temporary assignment at the Nevada National test site. We used the abandoned MX building site as housing for an exercise and they were down the road parked. Spring of 1983.
I wouldn't be so sure that the rail garrison was cancelled. About a year ago I saw rail car come through the small town I live in, that was a lot longer than a normal railcar for transportation. It was almost as long as three of them . And that was the first thing I thought of was that particular project. It didn't have any markings of any kind on it either. Which is highly unusual, they always have a registration number on them. Tanker cars, box cars, even Amtrak coaches, and even engines always have a registration number on both sides. Even if they don't have any other markings on them.
@@thebigdog2295 If you saw a car even twice as long as a standard 60-footer, it wasn't the 1980s Rail Garrison system. Those cars were designed to somewhat blend in with commercial traffic and travel without accommodations an extra-long car would require. All the cars are marked, even the ones used during the development of the system.
@@thebigdog2295 Rail garrison was definitely cancelled....I worked at the repurposed test facilities and have other knowledge. Rail shipment of ICBM boosters is a current task.
@@mikeh.3855 Then you should know. Our government is always saying that they're not doing something. That usually means the opposite. After all there's a reason why the Pentagon has lost track of where, I believe it's over a trillion dollars. I used to live in a town surrounded by different military bases. I've seen things the government said doesn't exist. Only to admit later, that they have exactly what they said didn't exist. Not saying that particular railroad car was the rail garrison, but it could have been a later version. My main point is this, you can't trust the government when they claim something to be truth.
It would be interesting to see some enviromental and hazmat emergency vehicles, such as KrAZ 256B1-030, MAZ-504B, Komatsu D155W - and their modern counterparts.
the Amogy truck seems like it could work if they targeted the right buyers. Companies that have large truck fleets that don't travel all over the country, but do more back Point A- Point B repeat trucking, that way they could have their own refueling stations and not need to look for 3rd party locations
first!!! i'm not sure that natural gas truck are more efficient seen that the Iveco S way 460lng (liquefied natural gas) i drove these last months was barely able to move 25 tons without being out of breathe each time a small slope appeared
Agree, we have CNG buses ( Compressed natural gas ) here in Sweden that are plagued with issues, first of all, they often struggle to start, both in summer and winter, ( can take forever ) and many times they won't start at all, and needs to be towed to a garage, they also have a common habit of breaking down in the middle of the road, leaving passengers stranded, seeing broken down cng buses being towed behing heavy wreckers is a common sight in southern Sweden. Many bus drivers walked off the job due to these buses. Other common problems are rattly, misfiring engines that runs very poorly, and souns terrible as well. Expected lifespan of a cng bus engine is around 100 000 kms ( 62 000 miles ) before total rebuilds or engine replacements are required, the older diesel powered buses (Scania L94 and Omnilinks from 2003-2005 ) still ran fine on their original engines after a million kms + ( 620 000 + miles ) only needed regular maintenance and upkeep to run reliably, sadly these buses were removed when they changed bus companys here around 10 years ago, still miss these reliable diesel beasts 👍 Also CNG engines are not very quiet, in many cng buses you need ear defeners to protect yourself from the very loud screaming coming fom the cng engines, in many citys neighbors are complaining of the loud sounds made by the cng buses. 10 times quieter ? No, not by a long way, often they are louder and have much less power than diesel engines, also 100 times less reliable than a diesel bus.
@@fontheking5 In New England the most cursed vehicles to get started in when its cold are always diesels. At least, thats my experience. (ranging from skid steers to cars to bulldozers and bigass bucket loaders) caveat: I have zero experience with propane powered vehicles and never hear anything about them here. Aside from some of the courier fleets using it (dunno if the still do, but at least some did ~20 years ago)
actually, instead of ammonia, methanol is actually cheaper to produce, store and transport! the german engineer Roland Gumpert already has a low volume production supercar called the Nathalie which is basically a FCEV with Methanol as a LOHC i.e Liquid Organic Hydrogen Carrier
The Derman is awesome but if it's a Mercedes then it'll do all that until it's got 50,000 to 100,000 miles on it then the engine will start to fall apart like it's made of lego. But I honestly from the thumbnail I thought that HML was made for a sci-fi movie.
for some reason the one in this vid reminded me of that Nikola Corp Trevor Milton scam that was a bit more than physics would allow the thing to be. it's not impossible, just incredibly difficult given expectations of what a truck should do, and some fall into the trap of bragging about nonexistent technology to exaggerate the capability of the vehicles.
@@Zarcondeegrissom The Tesla Semi is already in production and has proven it has over 500 mile range towing 82,000 lbs. Just ask Pepsi. Where have you been?
@@TomUlcak and that's why they use "21 Tesla Semi electric trucks for deliveries within 100 miles with several stops" (Aug 4, 2023, electrek), cuz it can just do everything at the same time cuz clark-tech, lol. may want to look at the fine print again, I don't think that 500 mile range is what cargo shippers expect it to be, as even Pepsi stated it to be 400 not 500 that Tesla marketing stated. Freighwaves. - PepsiCo officials said some of Semi trucks will be used for long-haul deliveries across California. The trucks have a range of about 400 miles before they need to be charged, according to Erica Edwards, senior vice president for manufacturing for PepsiCo, during a press conference to unveil the Semis on Tuesday. 13 april 2023
@@Zarcondeegrissom quit lying. Seriously, why do you feel compelled to lie? The data is there and confirmed by 3rd party testing. Seems that Tesla does indeed break the legacy automakers’ version of physics. Legacy automakers are inept at best. Quit swallowing their BS.
far as a ballistic missile carrier goes, (or cargo/any other military vehicle goes) i feel it may make a comeback but will be modular. each axle will probably have motors/breaks/power and a brain.. they'll link together like a train and have the means of linking to each other as well as a means to hold cargo like a locking rack sort of system or posts? anyhow they'll act like caterpillars with the power turning the wheels at different rates to turn to reduce the need for the systems to actually turn the wheels. of course i want to call them a "train" sort of system... the engine would be the one with a place for drivers/crew. thou since they can link together with any number of the other axle units... you could theoretically link multiple "engines" to one vehicle configuration. like a train... if that helps. the systems for whatever they carry for loading /unloading/ orientation etc... would need to be bolted/linked to the axle units in the manner to best be used. think of the axles as being drones, its why they have their own brain after all... as to be directed to act or "whatever" outside of actually being linked together. put it this way, if a vehicle gets damaged it won't be the entire vehicle. so you could unlink damaged parts and have them directed to link in a different configuration or to go somewhere for storage/repair/to get help/ etc... being able to remove damage axle units and calling in replacements could repair a vehicle and not need it to be dragged to a repair station after all...right? thou this process would take time and has a variety of issues.. it also has some benefits right? anyhow. peace.
Currently ammonia is mostly made from natural gas. Note that most electricity in the US is also made from natural gas, and natural gas peaker plants are still the only affordable way to cover for solar and wind since they are intermittent. Note in certain locations with elevated water reservoirs, pumped hydro is used instead. Burning natural gas is cleaner and lower carbon than petroleum, which itself is cleaner and lower carbon than coal.
I have no use for it but it looks so amazing that I briefly became 14 years old again when I was looking at it. Looks sci-fi and ery cool and I love it.
Making a truck powered by ammonia which works perfectly well as an internal combustion fuel going with blindingly expensive fuel cells makes it seem like I don't want to produce the alternative fuel vehicle.
Is that the truck from that george peppard/Jan michel Vincent movie? Where they are an Air force missile silo crew traveling across a post WWIII nuclear bombed America?
Put a sign on the truck, WILL PAY A DOLLAR FOR YOU TO EMPTY YOUR BLADDER INTO OUR FUEL TANK. That ought to give you a substantial source of AMMONIA !!!
Urine is approximately 0.05% ammonia, AKA 99.95% *not* ammonia. They need high concentration ammonia, which is highly lethal if inhaled. It's like how some rockets use hydrogen peroxide as a liquid oxidizer, but in a concentration 30 times higher than what you'd buy at a pharmacy. If you spilled pure hydrogen peroxide on your shoe, it'd immediately burn through your shoe and through your foot and there'd hardly be anything left of them. A German test pilot of a rocket plane had an issue landing, some of the rocket fuel leaked onto him dissolving most of his body. An officer there turned away all unnecessary personnel from seeing the aftermath.
Zur Abholung von ET's und deren ganzem Gepäck ?? Zwar können die ja bekanntlich mit ihrem leuchtendem Zeigefinger "nach Hause telefonieren" aber bis der Abholservice von denen da ist, kann es schon ein paar Lichtminuten dauern 😂😂, darum soviel Gepäck
Your wrong about 2 things,,natural gas powered vehicles are not as powerful as there petrol or diesel counterparts,,Also gas,,,,,in most of Europe ,,,,is much more expensive than petrol or diesel..
4:17 .. the rest is Fine, but here is the thumbnail vehicle. .. Oh, and _where_ is the Terex Titan?!? Most of these would fit in its' BED! *SIMULTANEOUSLY!*
7:11 And what would happens if those Ammonia tanks ruptured?!? You do know that ammonia is toxic... Deadly toxic. So, if a crash doesn't kill you, a ruptured Ammonia tank will.
The downside of using natural gas as a fuel: lousy mileage. They have a more limited range. (At least they didn't go electric, that's been proven to be a bust.)
Cow pee? Why not set up collection stations at truck stops to gather all the trucker p¡ss they bottle up and toss all the time? Energy independence awaits!
Trying to figure out what the blipvert of the Asian male is doing in this video at approx 6:53:59-6:54:05'ish. Just trying to get a subliminal image of himself into the video's? or part of an original video these where taken from.
This was one of the few video that actually showed what you posted awesome
I saw both of the HML prototypes and the rail car version while on temporary assignment at the Nevada National test site. We used the abandoned MX building site as housing for an exercise and they were down the road parked. Spring of 1983.
Thank You
The USAF HML program was cancelled due to the START Treaty. The USAF Rail Garrison program was also cancelled at that time for the same reason.
I wouldn't be so sure that the rail garrison was cancelled. About a year ago I saw rail car come through the small town I live in, that was a lot longer than a normal railcar for transportation. It was almost as long as three of them . And that was the first thing I thought of was that particular project. It didn't have any markings of any kind on it either. Which is highly unusual, they always have a registration number on them. Tanker cars, box cars, even Amtrak coaches, and even engines always have a registration number on both sides. Even if they don't have any other markings on them.
@@thebigdog2295 If you saw a car even twice as long as a standard 60-footer, it wasn't the 1980s Rail Garrison system. Those cars were designed to somewhat blend in with commercial traffic and travel without accommodations an extra-long car would require. All the cars are marked, even the ones used during the development of the system.
@@thebigdog2295 Rail garrison was definitely cancelled....I worked at the repurposed test facilities and have other knowledge. Rail shipment of ICBM boosters is a current task.
@@mikeh.3855 Then you should know. Our government is always saying that they're not doing something. That usually means the opposite. After all there's a reason why the Pentagon has lost track of where, I believe it's over a trillion dollars. I used to live in a town surrounded by different military bases. I've seen things the government said doesn't exist. Only to admit later, that they have exactly what they said didn't exist. Not saying that particular railroad car was the rail garrison, but it could have been a later version. My main point is this, you can't trust the government when they claim something to be truth.
Creator here love your work. And I want one of these trucks.
5:07 Now that’s a truck and trailer!
サムネのトラックが未来的過ぎますね🤣
4:26 'Intercontinental ballistic missile development boom' = arms race.
Rule of Acquisition number 34: War is good for business.
It would be interesting to see some enviromental and hazmat emergency vehicles, such as KrAZ 256B1-030, MAZ-504B, Komatsu D155W - and their modern counterparts.
4:13 Is this model still in production?
Great video! The ammonia-fueled truck was fascinating - I never heard of it. Is ammonia flammable?
A futuristic show that i enjoyed briefly as a kid as it was too cheesy even for me.
the Amogy truck seems like it could work if they targeted the right buyers. Companies that have large truck fleets that don't travel all over the country, but do more back Point A- Point B repeat trucking, that way they could have their own refueling stations and not need to look for 3rd party locations
The Caterpillar one looks like the Landmaster from "Damnation Alley"
first!!!
i'm not sure that natural gas truck are more efficient seen that the Iveco S way 460lng (liquefied natural gas) i drove these last months was barely able to move 25 tons without being out of breathe each time a small slope appeared
Agree, we have CNG buses ( Compressed natural gas ) here in Sweden that are plagued with issues, first of all, they often struggle to start, both in summer and winter, ( can take forever ) and many times they won't start at all, and needs to be towed to a garage, they also have a common habit of breaking down in the middle of the road, leaving passengers stranded, seeing broken down cng buses being towed behing heavy wreckers is a common sight in southern Sweden.
Many bus drivers walked off the job due to these buses.
Other common problems are rattly, misfiring engines that runs very poorly, and souns terrible as well.
Expected lifespan of a cng bus engine is around 100 000 kms ( 62 000 miles ) before total rebuilds or engine replacements are required, the older diesel powered buses (Scania L94 and Omnilinks from 2003-2005 ) still ran fine on their original engines after a million kms + ( 620 000 + miles ) only needed regular maintenance and upkeep to run reliably, sadly these buses were removed when they changed bus companys here around 10 years ago, still miss these reliable diesel beasts 👍
Also CNG engines are not very quiet, in many cng buses you need ear defeners to protect yourself from the very loud screaming coming fom the cng engines, in many citys neighbors are complaining of the loud sounds made by the cng buses.
10 times quieter ? No, not by a long way, often they are louder and have much less power than diesel engines, also 100 times less reliable than a diesel bus.
@@fontheking5 In New England the most cursed vehicles to get started in when its cold are always diesels. At least, thats my experience. (ranging from skid steers to cars to bulldozers and bigass bucket loaders)
caveat: I have zero experience with propane powered vehicles and never hear anything about them here. Aside from some of the courier fleets using it (dunno if the still do, but at least some did ~20 years ago)
All the CNG truck and bus just politics world... Holy ass
Wow a hook lift
that first one, Durman, reminds me of the 1980's Oshkosh HEMTT. if it works, it works, I guess.
actually, instead of ammonia, methanol is actually cheaper to produce, store and transport! the german engineer Roland Gumpert already has a low volume production supercar called the Nathalie which is basically a FCEV with Methanol as a LOHC i.e Liquid Organic Hydrogen Carrier
The Derman is awesome but if it's a Mercedes then it'll do all that until it's got 50,000 to 100,000 miles on it then the engine will start to fall apart like it's made of lego. But I honestly from the thumbnail I thought that HML was made for a sci-fi movie.
Looks like something from the TV show space 1999
Yes thay aquiered 11 units but probably was government paid discount at tax payers expenses
I bet the decepticons would use this vehicle
How about talking about Letourneau's Overland train?
The Tesla Semi truck comes out for production next month!
for some reason the one in this vid reminded me of that Nikola Corp Trevor Milton scam that was a bit more than physics would allow the thing to be. it's not impossible, just incredibly difficult given expectations of what a truck should do, and some fall into the trap of bragging about nonexistent technology to exaggerate the capability of the vehicles.
@@Zarcondeegrissom The Tesla Semi is already in production and has proven it has over 500 mile range towing 82,000 lbs. Just ask Pepsi. Where have you been?
@@TomUlcak and that's why they use "21 Tesla Semi electric trucks for deliveries within 100 miles with several stops" (Aug 4, 2023, electrek), cuz it can just do everything at the same time cuz clark-tech, lol.
may want to look at the fine print again, I don't think that 500 mile range is what cargo shippers expect it to be, as even Pepsi stated it to be 400 not 500 that Tesla marketing stated.
Freighwaves. - PepsiCo officials said some of Semi trucks will be used for long-haul deliveries across California. The trucks have a range of about 400 miles before they need to be charged, according to Erica Edwards, senior vice president for manufacturing for PepsiCo, during a press conference to unveil the Semis on Tuesday. 13 april 2023
@@Zarcondeegrissom quit lying. Seriously, why do you feel compelled to lie? The data is there and confirmed by 3rd party testing. Seems that Tesla does indeed break the legacy automakers’ version of physics. Legacy automakers are inept at best. Quit swallowing their BS.
derman is tought vehicle 🥰
far as a ballistic missile carrier goes, (or cargo/any other military vehicle goes) i feel it may make a comeback but will be modular. each axle will probably have motors/breaks/power and a brain.. they'll link together like a train and have the means of linking to each other as well as a means to hold cargo like a locking rack sort of system or posts? anyhow they'll act like caterpillars with the power turning the wheels at different rates to turn to reduce the need for the systems to actually turn the wheels. of course i want to call them a "train" sort of system... the engine would be the one with a place for drivers/crew. thou since they can link together with any number of the other axle units... you could theoretically link multiple "engines" to one vehicle configuration. like a train... if that helps. the systems for whatever they carry for loading /unloading/ orientation etc... would need to be bolted/linked to the axle units in the manner to best be used. think of the axles as being drones, its why they have their own brain after all... as to be directed to act or "whatever" outside of actually being linked together. put it this way, if a vehicle gets damaged it won't be the entire vehicle. so you could unlink damaged parts and have them directed to link in a different configuration or to go somewhere for storage/repair/to get help/ etc... being able to remove damage axle units and calling in replacements could repair a vehicle and not need it to be dragged to a repair station after all...right? thou this process would take time and has a variety of issues.. it also has some benefits right? anyhow. peace.
And how are vast quantities of ammonia produced?
Currently ammonia is mostly made from natural gas. Note that most electricity in the US is also made from natural gas, and natural gas peaker plants are still the only affordable way to cover for solar and wind since they are intermittent. Note in certain locations with elevated water reservoirs, pumped hydro is used instead.
Burning natural gas is cleaner and lower carbon than petroleum, which itself is cleaner and lower carbon than coal.
Ammonia has been produced through the Hyber process though its not exactly the fastest or most efficient way to produce ammonia
Amazing that all things on earth are carbon based, yet people are dumb enough to believe carbon is bad...
Is that tracted cat version still in one piece somewhere???? Extremely interested 🤔?????
I have no use for it but it looks so amazing that I briefly became 14 years old again when I was looking at it. Looks sci-fi and ery cool and I love it.
The HML looks like the origin of the Landmaster from the movie "Damnation Alley 1977" or the Arc from the TV series "ARK II 1976".
I was just about to say Damnation Alley……. Jan Michael Vincent was my idol in the 70’s, early 80’s.
Making a truck powered by ammonia which works perfectly well as an internal combustion fuel going with blindingly expensive fuel cells makes it seem like I don't want to produce the alternative fuel vehicle.
Is that the truck from that george peppard/Jan michel Vincent movie? Where they are an Air force missile silo crew traveling across a post WWIII nuclear bombed America?
For the mobile MX missile system.
Put a sign on the truck, WILL PAY A DOLLAR FOR YOU TO EMPTY YOUR BLADDER INTO OUR FUEL TANK. That ought to give you a substantial source of AMMONIA !!!
Urine is approximately 0.05% ammonia, AKA 99.95% *not* ammonia. They need high concentration ammonia, which is highly lethal if inhaled. It's like how some rockets use hydrogen peroxide as a liquid oxidizer, but in a concentration 30 times higher than what you'd buy at a pharmacy. If you spilled pure hydrogen peroxide on your shoe, it'd immediately burn through your shoe and through your foot and there'd hardly be anything left of them. A German test pilot of a rocket plane had an issue landing, some of the rocket fuel leaked onto him dissolving most of his body. An officer there turned away all unnecessary personnel from seeing the aftermath.
I am going to say, for the south pole?
Zur Abholung von ET's und deren ganzem Gepäck ?? Zwar können die ja bekanntlich mit ihrem leuchtendem Zeigefinger "nach Hause telefonieren" aber bis der Abholservice von denen da ist, kann es schon ein paar Lichtminuten dauern 😂😂, darum soviel Gepäck
How much piss does it take to make ammonia.?
time
@@whyjnot420 gallon jug set in the sun, not long try HHO kit using fermented piss,
Ark II!
Your wrong about 2 things,,natural gas powered vehicles are not as powerful as there petrol or diesel counterparts,,Also gas,,,,,in most of Europe ,,,,is much more expensive than petrol or diesel..
The landmaster from damnation alley?
Looks like something out of a sifi flic
Why
You show always
One nice thing. In show screen
And all the rubbish in your movie!?
I'm very angry
...Is that Mark Hamill narrating?
4:17 .. the rest is Fine, but here is the thumbnail vehicle.
..
Oh, and _where_ is the Terex Titan?!? Most of these would fit in its' BED! *SIMULTANEOUSLY!*
Мусоровоз😅
7:11 And what would happens if those Ammonia tanks ruptured?!?
You do know that ammonia is toxic... Deadly toxic.
So, if a crash doesn't kill you, a ruptured Ammonia tank will.
It's real 4:47
Anyone got a lo-mile Durman 8x8 they want to trade?
Damnation Alley
Movie damnation alley
The downside of using natural gas as a fuel: lousy mileage. They have a more limited range. (At least they didn't go electric, that's been proven to be a bust.)
Ah, so would the ammonia system be viable by farmers collecting cow pee? Just a thought!
Cow pee? Why not set up collection stations at truck stops to gather all the trucker p¡ss they bottle up and toss all the time? Energy independence awaits!
@@turbopokey Well would you believe the Romans did that because it is used to make linen and fix dyes!
Trying to figure out what the blipvert of the Asian male is doing in this video at approx 6:53:59-6:54:05'ish. Just trying to get a subliminal image of himself into the video's? or part of an original video these where taken from.
Tanks weigh 60 tons... So NO. Even self propelled artillery are close to 30 tons. Derp man couldn't carry tanks.
truck math geomitry
nie potrzebny złom do zabijania ludzi pośrednio lub bezpośrednio.
produkcja wojskowa do likwidacji.
I wonder if he narrates his own sex experience
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