Oh God I guess I am old. I agree with you, I never realized adultery was dating. On second thought, I guess I am a dinosaur. My values died a long time ago and they are just waiting for me to go too.
Whores get paid in cash. These women are stupidly giving sex away. Girls who sleep around are depriving actual whores, prostitutes, sex workers, whatever you want to term it as, they are depriving sex workers of income.
She entered a relationship with a married man 4 months after giving birth to another man's baby. This woman is broken and she continues to hurt herself
As a man I’ll say this, if a man in a relationship hits on you it means they think you are easy or simple. It means he thinks he can get with you without any complications or stress.
I went out with a married man when I was around 20. My first questions to any guy that asked me out were are you married, are you living with someone. He said no to both. Went out a few times and I dumped him. He came to my place of work with his wife and child and introduced me to them. I waited til he was sans wife and child and I punched him in the stomach...hard. Another one and I were eyeballing each other on the Chicago L for months, very cute, very sexy. Don't know how he got my number but called and I asked the questions. He flunked and I hung up. Any woman that falls for this garbage is desperate and hard up...probably for good reason.
Interesting. So if a married woman makes a pass at a man, now his morals are suspect? I don't think so. I don't (can't) control other people. They're going to do what they want to do. Their choices aren't MY failings- thankyouverymuch.
@@oldgeezer2780 I didn’t say anyone’s morals are in question. I said he THINKS you are easy or simple. The whole reason I said what I said was to let good people know that they don’t need people who PERCEIVE them as easy or simple. thankYOUverymuch.
She's been with this guy for 6 months but just had a baby 10 months ago. So 4 months after she had a baby, she started dating a married man. She needs serious healing. Wow
This voice is the hardest voice to listen to. I thought she was going to say she was 15. This is the voice of a 31 year old. She needs some serious counseling. I see why his kids don’t like her. She has no business raising kids. She’s got too many issues she is visiting on them.
@@sometimesising1016 that child was scream crying and she didn't even hesitate in her speaking pattern or change her tone. She regularly ignores those children.
She’s 100% in denial about being a homewrecker. If he’ll cheat on his current wife, he will cheat on you when you’re married. And she’s laughing about it. There’s multiple kids getting hurt here, and she’s being selfish.
To be fair, he wrecked his own home! She did not wreck it. He did. In her eyes, his marriage was already over. She is just too naiv, too broken to realize she was lied to.
@@sarahtaavettiat first, yes. But he CONTINUES being with that man after finding out he was still married. Just listen to this brat. She giggles and is delusional and has that AUDACITY to ask why his kids don't like a hoewrecker
He wants a side hustle. His kids are mad. She’s got an infant and starts dating. Who does that? Someone has to babysit her baby so she can help him cheat on the wife. He doesn’t respect her. She doesn’t respect his wife. His kids are rightfully mad.
I’m 29 and listening to her voice and how naive she sounded I thought she was like 22. A 31 year old woman with 3 kids that believes living like this is ok is crazy. 😵💫
Im 26 but even at the age of 21 or so I would have known this was messed up. Yes the married ones have the actual commitment but you are not innocent either it takes 2 to tango and you have 0 integrity if you get with a married person period
She has the "little girl" voice. I wonder how long you would have to go digging before you sound some severe childhood trauma. I have compassion for this woman. Clearly very damaged and in desperate need of therapy/healing.
@@LauraAnn1980Yeah, she sounds like her emotional development was stunted at a very early age. Would not surprise me to find out she was abused when quite young and it is affecting her self-worth and her choices to this day.
This show isn't good for this type of call, it's like watching a train wreck and no one gets help. She sounds like she has an emotional or mental issue. Having children and no regard to them and she couldn't stop laughing. Something was just off. I hope and pray it was a crank call
I am happy John actually called her out for lacking integrity. She is knowingly continuing a relationship with a married man; is she surprised the kids don’t like her?
He saved it as an aside for the very end. He told her she deserve better than this. Actually I don't think she does. Switch the genders and if it were a man calling in he would have reamed him as he should have her. She's a disgusting immoral woman. The theme the whole time should have been her lack of integrity not the guys
Haven't heard this one, but it is so true. Definitely replacing the over-used quote of "if he'll do it with you, he'll do it to you". Sounds just a little classier.
Sooooo true! I worked with a woman who was in a serious relationship with a man she lived with, and a man who was married with twins on the way. They both had affairs with each other, and eventually the other spouses found out, so they moved in together and guess who's now cheating on each other?
This woman has a very strange intonation pattern to her speech. It reminds me of a teen trying to lie but realizing no one is buying it. Adultery is wrong.
Seriously, she sounds like a 13 YO not a 31 YO with 3 children, especially a 10 month old baby! Caller needs to be evaluated by a psychiatrist, she might be bipolar and needs medication. Also something wrong for a married man with teenagers (near graduation to boot!) "falling" for a mom with a 4 month old baby at that time he meets her. Her other children are 6 & 7? My spidey sense wonders is loverboy actually a pedophile that is worming his way to the 6 or 7 year old via their mother's emotional & mental instability? Hope she has a family member that overhears this call and gets her professional help because bipolars rarely seek help on their own before they hit rock bottom.
It’s called ‘uptalk’, where the sentences rise at the end, as if it is a questioning sentence, rather than a statement. It’s a speech pattern often called ‘Valley Girl speak’, associated with clueless individuals. Also, I believe there was a movie called “Clueless”, which epitomized this type of speaking.
She sounds like she is autistic and doesn't understand boundaries which is something is autistics are never taught and we get hurt and have complex PTSD . Fun times
@@sarcodonblue2876 Whoa there, "autism" is a term for a wide range of abilities and social functioning. There are many differences among individuals "on the spectrum." Yes, boundaries are definitely taught in special classes. It is still up to the individual to choose the way they live.
So let me get this straight…she has 3 kids, one of which is not even a year old. She’s not with that 1 year old’s dad but thinks she had a future with a married man. This chick is so lost.
Not only that, you'd be complicit yourself in ruining someone else's marriage. To do something like that means you can put yourself in the headspace to harm others.
Absolutely true! My ex-husband cheated on me, he married the woman he cheated on me with... then he cheated on his second wife and almost married the other woman he cheated on her with. The only reason why he didn't marry her is because that 3rd woman got tired of all the BS. And these were long term affairs, 2 to 3 years.
she isn't surprised. She has to act surprised to get the "Wait.. why are you doing this, you are so much better than this!" reaction. I was in recovery for a bit and a lot of people act dumb to get verbal validation. Could just be me projecting my past experiences but I don't think so with this case.
It's amazing how we can justify sin. Adultery is heartbreaking. My husband had an affair with my best friend and truly I didn't see it coming. But by the grace of God I forgave my husband and my best friend. We both knew that not trying would forever wound our children. That was sixteen years ago and we will have been married 43 years. God is so merciful,.I pray this young lady grows up and learn to trust herself.
aren’t women scared of bringing home a pedophile? who gets with a new guy with an infant??? and a married guy at that? I barely had time to cut my hair or have a hot coffee let alone an affair 😮
@@ManfromHell83 I don’t know who the red pill podcast is, but I guess “high value” is subjective. And I could not give a rats behind how much money you make, if you’re married, you’re off limits plus I don’t like sharing certain things, my husband and my toothbrush being at the top of that list.
@@bonezbaaaby But you HAVE a CHOICE (because in life women have choices, men have responsibilities) between the two (You have to choose one) ultimately which one would you choose?
This is a woman desperate for someone to save her from drowning in her day to day life. Anyone, even a lying married man, gives her a small glimmer of hope. That is so sad.
Absolutely, as much as the woman is a “homewrecker”, this man definitely led the way, gave her a false sense of security, all for his sake. She was vulnerable because she just had a new born, and he took advantage of that
@@wurled4369he took advantage of tha yes but this women is not Saint Saying she start dating a married man because she just got pregnant and was feeling vulnerable is pretty much taking any sort of accountabllity on her side Her lack of morals and empathy are another reason
I hope she knows, despite the hardships, at least society doesnt condemn single mother and her children as they did couple generations ago. It is not the best way to raise children as you do two people’s job, but I hope she toughen up and have better plan than entangled with lying married man
There are different types of people who even think about marred men. She can look for any type of save, but the moment when she chooses that her saviour is someone who should save his family shows what type of the person she is.she is narcissistic person who doesn't see other people feelings.
He’s not a boyfriend. She’s his side piece. She’s just as scummy as the married man. Anyone that intentionally dates a married man has no morals. I have ended friendships with people like her.
Listen, I have a friend who was seeing a married man for a few months and had no idea this guy was married. She really liked this guy. We found out through a coworker that he was Married! she showed us the wife's social media and the family, date, wedding pics were all there. She immediately texted him that she would no longer be seeing him and that she found out, his response was that they were separated and if he had told her she wouldn't have given him a chance and her response was to block him. She was mortified. But had she continued to see this guy we would no longer be friends.
Almost 20 years ago, when my father had been dead for 3 years, and my Mom was dying in a nursing home, I was cleaning out stuff from his home office. I had to drill open the lock of a filing cabinet. I discovered a large amount of correspondence (paper letters- pre-internet) between him and his MISTRESS of 13+ years. All of a sudden a number of "oddities" (his random "business trips" as a REALTOR (she lived about 100 miles away), a P.O. Box MILES from our home for "business", etc.) made sense. The mistress called it off because she was worried of one of them having a health emergency (both aged in their 60's at the conclusion) during a "tryst". I was a WAY full grown man, age 45. I was CRUSHED. He was never a very good father, but I thought that he was at least TRYING, and doing the best he could. WRONG. I can't even imagine how horrible it must be for the kids they dragged into this train wreck. I actually had to seek counseling help to deal with the "loss" of the image of my father. The counselor strongly advised me to tell my 2 younger brothers, to seek their support, as he said it would help me a lot. I agreed that it would help me greatly, but the PRICE would be dumping a truckload of pain onto THEM, something I wouldn't do. The only person I ever told was my beloved late wife. She's the one who urged me to seek counseling. When people do crap like this, they send out WAVES of pain to others, like ripples in a pond. Sickening.
That married man with GROWN kids has ZERO intentions to divorce his wife and marry a 30 year old with three children, one of them being ten months old... I am glad these phone calls are somewhat anonymous because this is really embarrassing for her to put out on the internet.
My late husband told his numerous flings that he was separated, getting divorced, or that we had a roommate arrangement. If you don't hear it directly from his wife, he is unavailable to enter into a relationship with you. Once a cheater, always a cheater.
Why did you stay with him? As you said he had numerous flings...Probably, he was not using the condom with them...Why were you putting your health in danger?
If a married couple is actually separated and is in the process of divorcing, their new boyfriends/girlfriends don't have to be kept a secret. That his wife "found out" about his cheating means that they were NOT actually separated or in the process of divorce at the time, although it is possible that they may be now. Also, 99% likely he is also sleeping with other side chicks too.
@@kellywade8275 No it’s the fact that the wife “found out” about this woman. If it was amicable, a new partner should have been communicated to the wife. People separate without being divorced, the issue here is that he clearly deceived his wife and this woman is finding every reason to justify his behavior
@@kellywade8275 Nope. If you're separated, you're separated. Divorce can have too many hoops to go through, even a year waiting period for some. Dating during that is okay. IF you're actually separated. This man is not actually separated. 😊
@@gaaraxnaru So, desperate if you can't wait until the divorce is final which usually a cheating situation. Take time to be with yourself and heal. Separated is married, which isn't divorced...so, married. 👌🏾
It sounds like that nervous laugh to keep from crying but she needs to realize and acknowledge that this is wrong for a thousand reasons and find someone single smh
It’s crazy to me how a 31 year old with 3 kids of her own is this dumb. Then hearing her happy-go-lucky voice and giggling makes me want to punch something. I admire John for having so much patience and compassion, I also admire the way he still call her out for her actions and behavior. Absolutely unacceptable.
@@waterotter3625dont make excuses for her. Even if she has issues, they are her issues, and hers to deal with. Not am excuse to make dumb decisions especially when she has all those kids and is being unserious 🙄 hold her accountable for her actions.
I’m embarrassed to say that I’m in a similar situation except I’m the poor wife. I filed divorce when I found out about his double life and now he is planning on moving in with the other woman. And we have 2 very young kids that don’t know what the hell is going on. And yes he wants 50/50 custody. She also has 1 child herself. They have absolutely no respect and no dignity. I’m looking forward to moving on with my life for myself and my children.
@Gemineye Intuition he might be a cheater. But he doesn't deserve not to share custody cause someone is mad. That's insane and unfair to kids. Low life's take kids from the other parent. Without real cause, drug abuse, ect.
@@T-CainesZR1 I want 60/40 physical custody just due to his work schedule. But he is adamant about 50/50 in writing and will “give me the extra time with the kids” if I want it. Pretty much he just wants to avoid paying child support. He is a loser.
from a stranger on the internet, i am sorry you are going through this and this may not help, but they will not have a successful lasting relationship. It may be 6 months or 10 years, but it will end and most likely end with one or both cheating... protect your kids as best you can and sending you strength.
Hugs to you. Good on you for filing for divorce. If you'd tried to make it work you'd honestly never trust him again, with good reason. These women that will cheat with a married man just end up with a cheater, how stupid are they?!
Jon says “You’re better than this”. No, she isn’t. She’s going to get just what she deserves until she finds her moral compass, which I predict will be never.
Not necessarily. As women were not often taught to see our value outside our body. We often look for validation that we're loved and desired based on a man "wanting" us. If more kids grew up in a home with parents that have a relationship with God, they'd learn that God loves them so they don't need attention and validation from men. They'd learn to have respect for self and require it from others. This is a lesson I learned in adulthood, could have saved a lot of hurt had I learned it younger.
@@fletcher0411, everyone has a reason to blame outside influences for their poor decisions and lack of integrity. It’s choosing not to go along with those negative influences that makes a person honorable.
When she said she was 31 I was absolutely shocked, I thought she was like 15. she acts and sounds younger than me and I’m 17. My soul left my body thinking about how this woman has children, YIKES.
The last married man who asked me out, i told him to invest the money he would have to spend on me for dates and gifts in his kids. He was offended that i called him a bad father.
Nah, let her sit and spin. Who’s going to “save” the wife who already wasted the last 20 years on this pathetic dude? Grandpa here deserves this future. Let him work himself into an early grave eating viagra raising these kids she’s saddling him with. They deserve each other😂
She was not going to change, she called him with the expectations to hear "oh hunny, you're so gorgeous you go girl, tell them stupid kids and wife you are right and they are all wrong"
Is her laughter her defensive mechanism that she's not dealing with her reality? It's like listening to a teenage caller lacking maturity to understand the reality or she's an ostrich with her head in the sand unable to see she's standing in a battlefield with all of the problems and issues going on
Yes. My sister does that. She’s also thirty. She’s in an abusive marriage and anytime I bring it up she giggles and her voice gets higher and she uses baby talk like “oh you silly Billy!”
No man that has been married long enough to have kids that are high school aged would want a woman with three small children. He found an easy target in this woman. He might get a divorce, but when that happens, he certainly will want NO responsibility. He will want a carefree life.
Men with any sort of option rarely pick a woman with 1 kid let alone 3 kids most likely from multiple other men. She’s probably cute and bubbly and a lot of naive tendencies. He saw his opportunity and took it with every lie imaginable. She will end up alone eventually when the looks fade away if she doesn’t do some work on herself.
Hey....I got with my husband and I had 3 kids and he helped me raise them into amazing adults. Been together 19 years. I mean... its rare... and I lucked out. But he was NOT married. I still legally was.
@@Jennthegreen your husband I can guarantee wasn’t desirable to the younger prettier child free woman. Men that take on woman with kids do it because it’s the only option they have. No dig on him but that’s just reality of the situation. Men can have kids if his own and still land a girl 15 years younger than him with no kids if he’s worth something of value.
As the daughter of a father who was/is a serial cheater, I could never understand the mindset of the women who knowingly slept with a married man. I get it after this call. This caller is selfish, naive, and desperate. She lacks insight and respect for herself. Those kids will NEVER accept her. There is a level of betrayal that cannot be undone. I cannot believe she’s my age! This is gross🤢 I hope she gets the help she needs to have some sense of right/wrong. Unfortunately this doesn’t happen on its own often. So I hope after he breaks her heart she can see the truth and realize the wrong in choosing to be the side chick.
once a cheater always a cheater cause cheaters are not stupid they choose their females (not women) well--cheaters always choose females who are financially stupid, desperate and keen on being a victim.
A lot of side chick moms raise side chick daughters unfortunately… I’ve seen it and it’s sad…. it’s 💯 self esteem bc nobody who loves themselves wants to be in this position
Spot on... Was wondering why she was ready to marry him after six months of being with him...I thought maybe he's successful but your point makes sense that she wants security and she already has children...
This lady is absolutely insane, I actually thought she was joking at first the way she’s just laughing about destroying a family. Absolute terrible influence on any kid
@@V.E.R.O. a married man that swore up and down that they were separated…. In her mind he was not married anymore. People stay legally married for years after separating for various reasons and are perfectly happy that their ex has moved on. It happens. But even if she knew he was still married (and together) that makes her a person with questionable morals and ethics, yes. But the person who broke HIS vows to HIS wife is HIM. It is his responsibility as a husband to say no to any advances he might be getting. People have to stop portraying men as helpless victims of their urges. If you are on a diet and just can’t resist that doughnut, it is not the donught to blame. Yes the dounught is unhealthy, but you chose to eat it. Nobody made you, you decided to. Take responsibility for your actions.
@@sarahtaavetti It's clear he's a douchebag and no one is portraying him as a helpless victim and no one thinks he is either. BUT she isn't one either and she is no less guilty, unlike a donut she has the ability to choose and she chose to be the other woman therefore she also has to take responsibility for her actions and the resulting mess that came after.
@@V.E.R.O. i guess it is true that he is not portrayed as helpless. But my point is more that only the people IN the marriage are responsible for it‘s Health, and ultimatly it’s destruction. Although I see it as a character flaw to be with an actively married man (which again, she thought they werent together anymore), she did NOT destroy a family. He did that on his own. He is the one that cheated, he is the one that broke the boundaries. Sure, she had the choice of not helping him. But it‘s not her responsibility to make his marriage work. Plus, people who want to cheat will just cheat. If not this woman, then the next one. Honestly, If my husband cheated on me with some random hussy, yes, I‘d be pissed at her too. But ultimatly that is a deflection of anger. HE is the one that broke my trust, not her. Me and her didn’t have an agreement. Me and him, however, did. HE would have broken my trust, not her. I don‘t know that B*. If the stability of your marriage depends on whether the other woman says NO to your husband, then you and I have different definitions of what a „stable marriage“ is. It‘s the husbands job to say no, not the other woman‘s.
This!! My cousin was in a relationship with a married man for years waiting for him to get divorced once his kids were old enough. Once he did finalize he he said he would never get married again and would never commit to creating a life and being in a serious relationship again.
Leah has the maturity of a 19yr old college girl. But she actually has kids of her own! Scary. It's one thing to acknowledge that you are the side chic and be okay with it. It's something else entirely to acknowledge your position and still think that you deserve respect and admiration from the kids of the other family. That's delusional.
@@user-lt1jd1ye3v She can't expect to get it at the expense of others. Plus she started dating a married man when she had a 4 month old baby, and 2 other kids. That's insane, how did she even find the time
Yes but the man is taking advantage of her she is child like and immature that what's he is going • men lie to women then some women fall for it she probably loves him fed her a bunch of lies and she fell for it
@@jacquelineguzman197 are you making excuses for a grown woman with 3 children? No one is 'taking advantage' of her. It's not as if the man lied to her or kept her in the dark about his marriage and his situation. She knew fully well what she was getting into. And she's just as accountable as he is for the mess her kids and his kids are being dragged through. As a woman, I hate this idea that women are such poor damsels that are so easily manipulated, especially not after 3 kids.
Married men lie. I met a guy at work. He was flying in from another city for 2 years and told me he was going through a divorce. The wife called me and said I see my husband is calling you. I apologized, said I didn't know and promised to drop him which I did. He totally lied to me.
This girl (not a woman by any stretch of the immagination) is 31 going on 15. Her rising inflection after every sentence is a huge indicator of her immaturity!!! Good Lord, her poor kids are stuck with this vapid person.
Fifteen is the exact same emotional age I attributed to her, as well. Oy. She's totally insufferable. I hope there's a lightning bolt moment before all of the kids on both sides of this mess need intensive therapy.
She is nervous and feeling shame. We do not know what trauma she has dealt with. I appreciate his approach, firm, honest and with compassion. I believe she called because she needed to hear this, as she hasn't learned to trust what her gut already knows.
This poor girl sounds like she’s a totally immature person. Very unfortunate. My wife’s parents had a falling out similar with the whole cheating/other woman thing. Her and the siblings HATED that woman, daddy married her anyways, and he ended up divorced again. Don’t do this, it doesn’t work.
Why did the children hate the other woman so much and not their dad? Is it projection...not wanting to face a loved one could hurt them like that so just blame the woman
@@WillIam79-c7f The husband knew he was married and took vows he is majority responsible the woman didn't make him cheat he was probably already thinking and planning to do it. Her being the homewrecker implies that he had no choice in the matter when he absolutely did but blaming the other woman is easier I suppose
of course she has multiple kids (guessing from different dads) and latched on to some guy who i am betting is at least 10 years older then her and can be a provider her with financial security, bc the odds of her finding a guy to take on her hot mess of a situation is very unlikely... Its more of a red flag that she is saying she would get married to him after only knowing him for 6 months.
As my mother always told me, "You lose em how you got em." If there's a man willing to leave a woman for you, he will leave you for another woman. Old habits die hard.
"Trust me, I know I have problems" "NOO. Nope, nope. You cannot just write them off as problems. You're making choices." That is a statement to bring to the woman in the mirror (talking about me). That is so good.
My friend of 32 years ( we were each others maid/matryn ) of honour, is best friends with the side piece that my husband stepped out with. She cheated on her husband and kids as did my husband. Then she cheated on them both with another mutual friends husband ( classy ) Yet she is still best friends with her and I’ve had to step away from the friendship as it’s too triggering and painful to be friends with her. I feel like I’m losing everyone and I’ve done nothing wrong
@@maylynbayani no it’s not. Still hurts to lose someone you’ve been so close to for so long, especially when you don’t have too many people to begin with. I would’ve thought she’d understand as her husband cheated on her also. Loyalty is a big thing for me, to give and to receive.
I remember when my best friend told me she was dating a married man with kids because they have a "deep connection and were meant to be together". Yeah...our entire friendship of over ten years ended because I tried to tell her this basic information. That she was wrong, and the whole relationship was wrong. And, of course, they suffered a terrible breakup that changed so many lives for the worse. It was sad.
Yes, and once you discover that someone is capable of such an egregious act you might as well separate yourself because there’s no telling what else she’s capable of doing. Cheating is dangerous on multiple levels. I wish more horror stories were televised then maybe people would think twice.
For every story like yours there is one of great success. My boss was married when he met the love of his life and she was married also. They were both miserable in their respective marriages. They got divorced and married eachother and have been the most romantic couple I have ever met for over 40 years. Should they have just lived a life of misery with the wrong person?
@69429boss - the problem isn’t someone finding ‘the love of their life’ or divorce! The problem is the CHEATING, BETRAYAL, LIES, MANIPULATION, and the DANGER (physical, emotional, psychological, spiritual, etc. for the betrayed spouse and any respective children.) Do you actually believe that your boss and his new wife didn’t know that they were miserable BEFORE meeting each other? Of course they did. But, they stayed married to ‘misery’ whilst waiting for something better to come along because it wasn’t that miserable! People will say anything to justify their actions or minimize their role esp when involved in such an egregious act. Your boss and his new wife definitely deserve each other. I don’t care how they appear to be; there’s something looming inside of them that goes dark about their situation.
Hum thank God that not everybody has a friend like you. Some people get into those situation and their head is not there but to leave your friend, to END UP a 10 year friendship because of a mistake it shows that you have very little grace. I hope nobody ends a friendship with you for a mistake that you have done.
@KymKiswe People choose a partner over their own blood family all the time. Do you really think dropping long-term friendships of those who don't affirm their relationship choice is hard to imagine? No, its not. But you do you.
One of the best parts of this whole call is the fact that John did not tell her not to read the comments. Leah if you read this please listen to all of us. Focus on your kids, you have a baby for goodness sake. Focus on yourself and become someone they can be proud of.
If she marries this dude there is a massive chance they will divorce. Putting those kids through another divorce after they live with a very uncaring man who cheats on his partner. No one should want their kid's stepfather to be a liar, cheater and selfish person. NEVER choose the man over your kids.
Some people so consumed with their own happiness, they literally dont see anything wrong with ruining lives of others as long as they get what they want.
This episode was somehow so validating to me. 5 years ago my husband suddenly up and abandoned me and my daughter for another woman about 10 years younger than me (I was 30 so imagine that Lol) - he blindsighted me and our daughter too. And yet I felt like the evil petty one for not being comfortable whenever the other woman is brought up or my daughter is in their company. I've tried to convince myself I'm bad for disliking the other woman and trying to tell myself maybe she's not a bad person, that it's his fault and maybe he lied to her too (he probably did) ... but no- now I know there's no way she couldn't have known that she was a catalyst in destroying our family. In no world does a man just happen across someone better the very same moment he is conveniently already breaking it off with his wife. In retrospect the separation needed to happen bc I'm in a way better place now and I'm with someone who respects me a whole lot more... but this episode at least helped me come to terms with the fact that some of my feelings of disdain for my ex husbands new girlfriend were valid. What kind of self respecting person puts themselves in a situation where they are destroying a family ? And what's to stop him from doing it to her next? Thank you for this episode John. I'm still healing and my daughter is too- and hearing your answer to this woman helped me to not feel like I'm totally crazy or "jealous." I just felt wronged and lied to, is all.
My sisters husband , aged 30, hooked up with a 17 year old. Marriage with 4 young children over. He and the slut married for many years...miserable. He's nasty to her She married for many years...happy. So there you have it.
I know people who have been through this, believing that the guy was getting a divorce for 6 years! Ended up finding out that she was not the only side chick.
And the poor wife, has all of his children, because at one time, she to fell for his BS lies, and love bombing. He is a narcissist and they only love and care for themselves. RUN!!!!!!!
That was the best thing I've heard. It was beautiful. She really believes a married man with his own kids is going to leave his wife for her? An easy 304 woman with 3 young kids? No. No man wants that. Men will say anything to sleep with a woman, but it's not truth. He treats her nicely because he ISNT committing to her. Unless he procures divorce papers, he is still married and intends to remain married.
Since she just left an abusive relationship, it sounds like this woman needs to do a ton of healing of herself before she understands how she is being treated like trash right now. The married man may not be abusing her, but he is taking advantage of her and she needs to know she is worth more than this. Everyone deserves better here.
You're right. She needs to focus on her children and building up a good life for the family she already has. Many women have done it, even if it means, like many mothers do, going to the food banks, getting food stamps, etc. I am in awe of women who work two and three jobs to keep their families afloat. Women do so much to pick themselves back up and they get vilified for it. Yep, she's comparing her last relationship with him so of course, he seems like a miracle man. He's also pretending because if he were to leave his wife, she'd see him behave exactly as her last relationship.
No guy is more perfect, attentive, and mysterious like a married guy. It’s a passionate nosedive right onto a wall. I think most women have more compassion for the whinning of a full grown man than for the hurt of another woman. We’re made to compete. But it’s always a circus to call yourself dating a guy who is still married. Find someone who is available to date. Even if you dont care for the other wife, find someone that is fully available.
Dating and/or winning a cheater is nothing to flex about. How you got them will be how you lose them. No matter how hard you try to convince yourself that he loves you, you'll ALWAYS have the thought (him cheating on his wife) in the back of your mind. Sooner or later, those thoughts will get in the way of your so-called relationship, causing turmoil.
So my mom actually did this to my dad and our family. The guy my mom cheated on my dad with, we hated him. He had the audacity to say that because we were older we would be fine. My mom then decided her relationship with him was much more important that even her relationship with her children. My siblings and I are into our late 20’s and let me tell it hurts no matter what. One day those kids will realize the dysfunction and it will feel as it just happened. Thank you Dr. Delony for not sugar coating this!
My mom did this too. I was twelve. She married the guy, and my siblings and I hated him. They stayed married though. My father also remarried, but they ended up divorced.
She doesn't care. She's very immature. She has no clue the damage she's doing. Selfish and childish. I feel for the children. If she were able to say no to adultery then she could say yes to life. Extremely selfish omg.. F
Indeed, I can confirm. When I caught my husband cheating, his messages to other women stated that "we tried working through things but it didn't work out" which insinuated he was out the door but he "tried". Meanwhile everytime I had a bad feeling he would say nothing is wrong and he would either blame it on work stress, or accuse me of being insecure.
She's a narcissist, in her mind it just means that she's so awesome and pretty and irresistible that this guy will cheat on his own wife and sabotage his kids childhood just to sleep with her... it's an ego boost for her and I bet she takes pleasure in it. I had the exact same situation with my step-mom who started dating my Dad when he was still married to my mom.
The caller reminds me of those friends that constantly complains about an issue and you give them solid advice. They NEVER listen & follow the advice because they wanted a yes man. When it backfires then they come back hurt x broken wishing they would’ve listen.
I had to drop this friend 😂 I'm an adult who takes of myself now. I can't run to you whenever you make stupid choices and help you clean up like when we were teens😂😂
Yes yes yes. My sister is like this. In an abusive relationship for 15 yrs. I've let her live with me given her money, advice, etc when she left, helped raise her kids and she really didn't want to hear any of it. She just needed a few weeks break and then would go back. This woman pissed me off. I loved when he told her there's something wrong with you when you're like "well I just want to be with him" (in a high pitched voice) and ur helping to ruin this family. I understand the nervous laugh but you aren100% dead on, she thought she was going to call and he was going to say yeah it's totally normal, he's not lying, I swear he's gonna leave his wife. Seems obvious she was going to ignore every piece of advice he gave which is sad cause if she thinks this guy is going to divorce his wife, leave his kids and move in with her and take on her 3 kids, and not do the same thing to her, she's absolutely insane. Iv3 truly never understood people who stay with cheaters or who hook up with someone who's married. It's typically not a 1 and done thing and some people think they're different and the person won't cheat on them. It's absolute insanity.
31 with 3 kids. She just wants to hurt another woman just like she was hurt by the women her baby daddy/daddies cheated on her with. She’s carrying on like a teenager. Pathetic
I’m so glad John called a spade a spade here. Cheating is such a disgusting, scummy thing to do. This woman lacks a shred of empathy and seems to barely have two brain cells to rub together. I feel for her kids. They have such an unstable mother who only thinks of herself.
Why is she even calling? Honestly 😂 I’m sleeping with a married men- why do his kids hate me? Duh honey just duh. She will end up alone with kid number 4
She won’t leave him no matter what happens. 20 years later when her own kids are traumatized and don’t like her and she realizes that she wasted her life, she’ll wonder what happened
Honestly I would have thought she was 13, if it wasn't for the fact that I already knew this was not a pedo case. This woman sounds like a literal child
😂 this reminds me of my ex. She left me for a married man who was still living with his wife. Dude said the exact same thing to my wife at the time. As of now he’s still with his wife and she’s history to me. Self worth 😊
If you get divorced you should wait awhile before dating again and you shouldn’t date til you have learned where you went wrong in marrying the person you married.
I once had a married man try and hit on me. I knew he was married because I knew his wife. I flat out told him if you hit on me again I’ll talk to your wife. Now go home to her and leave me be. At least I have morals
The woman that got with my dad when he was married destroyed peoples lives. He eventually divorced and got with her, and they was happy a few years, but his eyes looked other places. What made her so special? Nothing. So she eventually sat at home each day while he left and did “things” that have him stay over night at times. So she said “as long as he comes back home then he loves me.” She wanted marriage but he wouldn’t marry her, and she lived like that til she died.
@@peaceofmindofpeace1650 yeah, the dad in question left his wife for some woman who he didn't even want to marry. He's nobody special either. A real family person(man or woman) wouldn't even consider letting a 3rd party come in and ruin family. As for the woman, she's just a Jezebel and shouldn't have expected anything more than to play 2nd fiddle to his next conquest. Cause what comes around, goes around.
I feel badly for the wife and all of the kids. As far as her “deserving more”…not until she gets that moral compass adjusted. She left an abusive relationship 4 months after giving birth and ended up with this?? She needs help.
Her title: My Boyfriend's kids are traumatized by him dating. I think he's babying them. No hun, I think he's trying his hardest to stay within their good graces, especially since finding out that their Dad despite still LEGALLY married to their mother already has a girlfriend. She has no regard for his children and their feelings because once he's treating her right, the world is good in her book.
I didn't realize adultery is now called dating.
Haha!! It’s unbelievable the things they’ll say to avoid reality isn’t it??
Oh God I guess I am old. I agree with you, I never realized adultery was dating. On second thought, I guess I am a dinosaur. My values died a long time ago and they are just waiting for me to go too.
In some states it is illegal
Yeah Also fornicating is also called dating now too
She doesn't know what she's saying or doing....she is SO where she belongs...stay in your corner honey...you chose that!
I tell younger women that when a married man hits on them, don’t be flattered. Be insulted. It’s the same thing as calling you a whore.
Amen!!!
Well said! 👍
Very insulted.
I'm 48 and I always say that. It's like who or what do you think I am?
Whores get paid in cash. These women are stupidly giving sex away. Girls who sleep around are depriving actual whores, prostitutes, sex workers, whatever you want to term it as, they are depriving sex workers of income.
“This guy sucks and you’re following close behind him.” That’s a very diplomatic way to say she’s a terrible person.
😂
Satisfying to hear
That was the best!!!
How can you LOVE a Man who is Sleeping everynite with another woman. He doesn't want to hurt them... But he doesn't mine HURTING you!
No; she’s just as bad. He sugarcoated.
It scares me someone this immature and selfish is raising 3 kids…
Honestly. I feel sorry for her. She's desperate with no self esteem. Poor kids
I thought she was a teenager at first
This is very common. A lot of parents shouldn't be parents. Most single parents are desperate to find a partner because they know options are limited.
She sounds like a 12 yr old. She might have been traumatized at that age and is stuck emotionally there
How do you think people like her develop?
She entered a relationship with a married man 4 months after giving birth to another man's baby. This woman is broken and she continues to hurt herself
Yup that's what I am saying.
Seriously.
totally fked up!
She's quite broken, indeed. She needs to turn to Christ ASAP.
Mainly her and her boyfriend's children
It’s really sad that a 31 year old woman can still be so naive; if she didn’t state her age, I would have guessed she’s in her early 20’s.
I agree. She sounds extremely immature.
Yesssss like specially with so many predators targeting mothers..
With three kids and no father. Even a 10 month child. She sounds dumb,
Society has taught all modern women that they are all strong and empowered and devoid of all accountability
@@YouSoCute2000 FOR SURE!!!
Her complete and utter lack of empathy and concern for the wife and kids involved is just astounding. Literally, zero insight.
Delusional and self absorbed 💀🤦🏽♀️
Yes, and complaining that he runs to his kids to help them whenever he needs them AND giggling about it. She sounds like she's 13, not 31.
Bruh she lacks accountability
@@jcrocks6698umm what 13 year old talks like that or about that topic… perv.
Trash
As a man I’ll say this, if a man in a relationship hits on you it means they think you are easy or simple. It means he thinks he can get with you without any complications or stress.
I went out with a married man when I was around 20. My first questions to any guy that asked me out were are you married, are you living with someone. He said no to both. Went out a few times and I dumped him. He came to my place of work with his wife and child and introduced me to them. I waited til he was sans wife and child and I punched him in the stomach...hard. Another one and I were eyeballing each other on the Chicago L for months, very cute, very sexy. Don't know how he got my number but called and I asked the questions. He flunked and I hung up. Any woman that falls for this garbage is desperate and hard up...probably for good reason.
Interesting. So if a married woman makes a pass at a man, now his morals are suspect? I don't think so. I don't (can't) control other people. They're going to do what they want to do. Their choices aren't MY failings- thankyouverymuch.
@@oldgeezer2780 I didn’t say anyone’s morals are in question. I said he THINKS you are easy or simple. The whole reason I said what I said was to let good people know that they don’t need people who PERCEIVE them as easy or simple. thankYOUverymuch.
@@daltondenun858 Maybe he is the simple and immoral one.
Woah😢☠️
She's been with this guy for 6 months but just had a baby 10 months ago. So 4 months after she had a baby, she started dating a married man. She needs serious healing. Wow
And thinks that man will marry her 😂😂
You caught that too; wonder John didn't...guess he's distracted.
Society is broken. The poor children growing up in such depraved society. 😢
@@hotmess9640even if he does marry her, he will do the same thing to her when it gets tough (which will happen more quickly than his first marriage)
This voice is the hardest voice to listen to. I thought she was going to say she was 15. This is the voice of a 31 year old. She needs some serious counseling. I see why his kids don’t like her. She has no business raising kids. She’s got too many issues she is visiting on them.
This is the perfect example of an adult child. Screaming kids in the background, 30 talking like she is 13, and her only thought is herself.
Hearing the baby in the background really did something to me. The fact that her priorities are this messed up is scary.
Perfectly said. I cannot believe what I am hearing.
Kids are noisy. You can't drop everything every time they make noise
@@sometimesising1016 that child was scream crying and she didn't even hesitate in her speaking pattern or change her tone. She regularly ignores those children.
@@ellencox8415 you're projecting a lot
She’s 100% in denial about being a homewrecker. If he’ll cheat on his current wife, he will cheat on you when you’re married. And she’s laughing about it. There’s multiple kids getting hurt here, and she’s being selfish.
She’s laughing cause she’s nervous and caught. (Still a gross behavior though).
To be fair, he wrecked his own home! She did not wreck it. He did.
In her eyes, his marriage was already over. She is just too naiv, too broken to realize she was lied to.
Exactly. Did you also find her constant high pitched giggling annoying?
@@sarahtaavettishe’s not innocent. She helped in the wrecking. Her immaturity and selfishness is disgusting!
@@sarahtaavettiat first, yes. But he CONTINUES being with that man after finding out he was still married. Just listen to this brat. She giggles and is delusional and has that AUDACITY to ask why his kids don't like a hoewrecker
He wants a side hustle. His kids are mad. She’s got an infant and starts dating. Who does that? Someone has to babysit her baby so she can help him cheat on the wife. He doesn’t respect her. She doesn’t respect his wife. His kids are rightfully mad.
And her own children will be mad with her when they are old enough to understand
@@pixie3458Jesus is coming back. Believe He died for your sins and rose again then repent to be saved.
Right then sound like the only mature ones in this situation! 😢
What a mess
A side piece you mean? A side hustle is an extra job to make some more money. But I agree with everything you said.
I’m 29 and listening to her voice and how naive she sounded I thought she was like 22. A 31 year old woman with 3 kids that believes living like this is ok is crazy. 😵💫
Im 26 but even at the age of 21 or so I would have known this was messed up. Yes the married ones have the actual commitment but you are not innocent either it takes 2 to tango and you have 0 integrity if you get with a married person period
It’s sad because she is teaching her kids it’s ok to act like this. The cycle will continue
She has the "little girl" voice. I wonder how long you would have to go digging before you sound some severe childhood trauma. I have compassion for this woman. Clearly very damaged and in desperate need of therapy/healing.
@@LauraAnn1980Yeah, she sounds like her emotional development was stunted at a very early age. Would not surprise me to find out she was abused when quite young and it is affecting her self-worth and her choices to this day.
I agree !
Why is she giggling like a teenager when they’re discussing how she’s trying to blow up other peoples’ lives??? Preach it John
This show isn't good for this type of call, it's like watching a train wreck and no one gets help. She sounds like she has an emotional or mental issue. Having children and no regard to them and she couldn't stop laughing. Something was just off. I hope and pray it was a crank call
It’s a nervousness reaction. Kind of like someone laughing at a funeral
Because she is incredibly selfish and immature.
Stupid is as stupid does. What an immature woman.
She is desperate and empty.
I am happy John actually called her out for lacking integrity. She is knowingly continuing a relationship with a married man; is she surprised the kids don’t like her?
That must have been VERY difficult for him.
Sadly most women in this country don’t have integrity these days. And the ones that do let their emotions override it.
@Frank S lol. Yeah daloney is the king of affirmation
He saved it as an aside for the very end. He told her she deserve better than this. Actually I don't think she does. Switch the genders and if it were a man calling in he would have reamed him as he should have her. She's a disgusting immoral woman. The theme the whole time should have been her lack of integrity not the guys
Must've been very difficult for Baloney to *finally* hold a woman accountable for her bad choices in life.
"When a man marries his mistress, a vacancy opens."
Haven't heard this one, but it is so true. Definitely replacing the over-used quote of "if he'll do it with you, he'll do it to you". Sounds just a little classier.
😮😮😮😅
@@susanbartlett-ye6476 had to use this today with my friend, I so love it since I saw you post it!
Sooooo true! I worked with a woman who was in a serious relationship with a man she lived with, and a man who was married with twins on the way. They both had affairs with each other, and eventually the other spouses found out, so they moved in together and guess who's now cheating on each other?
I love that one! Never heard it before.
This woman has a very strange intonation pattern to her speech. It reminds me of a teen trying to lie but realizing no one is buying it. Adultery is wrong.
Seriously, she sounds like a 13 YO not a 31 YO with 3 children, especially a 10 month old baby! Caller needs to be evaluated by a psychiatrist, she might be bipolar and needs medication. Also something wrong for a married man with teenagers (near graduation to boot!) "falling" for a mom with a 4 month old baby at that time he meets her. Her other children are 6 & 7? My spidey sense wonders is loverboy actually a pedophile that is worming his way to the 6 or 7 year old via their mother's emotional & mental instability? Hope she has a family member that overhears this call and gets her professional help because bipolars rarely seek help on their own before they hit rock bottom.
It’s called ‘uptalk’, where the sentences rise at the end, as if it is a questioning sentence, rather than a statement. It’s a speech pattern often called ‘Valley Girl speak’, associated with clueless individuals. Also, I believe there was a movie called “Clueless”, which epitomized this type of speaking.
Always. Well said.
She sounds like she is autistic and doesn't understand boundaries which is something is autistics are never taught and we get hurt and have complex PTSD . Fun times
@@sarcodonblue2876 Whoa there, "autism" is a term for a wide range of abilities and social functioning. There are many differences among individuals "on the spectrum." Yes, boundaries are definitely taught in special classes. It is still up to the individual to choose the way they live.
So let me get this straight…she has 3 kids, one of which is not even a year old. She’s not with that 1 year old’s dad but thinks she had a future with a married man. This chick is so lost.
EXACTLY! And comment are like poor woman, she is delusional. Nah she needs to take accountability
@@shachede6828 most of the commenters hold her accountable
@@shachede6828 Agreed 100%.
Maybe the guy is a good persuader
YES!!
Never, never, NEVER get in a relationship with someone who's married. If they will cheat with you, they will cheat on you.
Well said
Not only that, you'd be complicit yourself in ruining someone else's marriage. To do something like that means you can put yourself in the headspace to harm others.
Absolutely true!
My ex-husband cheated on me, he married the woman he cheated on me with... then he cheated on his second wife and almost married the other woman he cheated on her with. The only reason why he didn't marry her is because that 3rd woman got tired of all the BS.
And these were long term affairs, 2 to 3 years.
Yep. That person is low hanging fruit and easily plucked.
He cheated on you and you’re probably better off without him. Look at him now. He probably has nothing to show for his life except brokenness.
Anytime I think I have made too many mistakes in my life, I’m going to listen this pitiful call.
😂😂
People think that having sex is love when in essence it is just lust nothing else.
I don't understand how a woman can be that ignorant. I would NEVER fall for that.
😂😂😂oooo
Lolz
How she's surprised that the kids don't like her is both shocking and telling.
she isn't surprised. She has to act surprised to get the "Wait.. why are you doing this, you are so much better than this!" reaction. I was in recovery for a bit and a lot of people act dumb to get verbal validation. Could just be me projecting my past experiences but I don't think so with this case.
@@devlonlyam7084 I can see that
Wants to make her happiness from the tears of children.
Bingo
It's amazing how we can justify sin. Adultery is heartbreaking. My husband had an affair with my best friend and truly I didn't see it coming. But by the grace of God I forgave my husband and my best friend. We both knew that not trying would forever wound our children. That was sixteen years ago and we will have been married 43 years. God is so merciful,.I pray this young lady grows up and learn to trust herself.
Her youngest is 10 months???!!! I would be too embarrassed to even call in. 💀
She's easy pickings for that type of men!
And she's been dating for 6 months I think is what she said...haha
@@SideShowSpecialties she thinks they have been dating, but they haven't even gone out in public...
@@SideShowSpecialties that's right. She started "dating" him when the baby was 4 months old. Oh no.
aren’t women scared of bringing home a pedophile? who gets with a new guy with an infant??? and a married guy at that? I barely had time to cut my hair or have a hot coffee let alone an affair 😮
There is no quicker turn off than a married man. I will never understand why people want someone who is already married 🤢
Agreed, a liar and cheat...what a prize😒
So agree!!!
Preselection
The Red Pill Podcasters say women will share a guy they believe is of high value and this is an example
@@ManfromHell83 I don’t know who the red pill podcast is, but I guess “high value” is subjective. And I could not give a rats behind how much money you make, if you’re married, you’re off limits plus I don’t like sharing certain things, my husband and my toothbrush being at the top of that list.
A woman would never date a man who lives with his mother but she would date a man who lives with his wife
Excellent point
You said the truth, my friend!!
Say it again for the folks in the back
I wouldn't date either one
@@bonezbaaaby But you HAVE a CHOICE (because in life women have choices, men have responsibilities) between the two (You have to choose one) ultimately which one would you choose?
The giggling. I can't.
Right? Complete lack of maturity.
I feel sorry for her current kids ; and she has 3 off them
So annoying I can’t
This is a woman desperate for someone to save her from drowning in her day to day life. Anyone, even a lying married man, gives her a small glimmer of hope. That is so sad.
Absolutely, as much as the woman is a “homewrecker”, this man definitely led the way, gave her a false sense of security, all for his sake. She was vulnerable because she just had a new born, and he took advantage of that
@@wurled4369he took advantage of tha yes but this women is not Saint
Saying she start dating a married man because she just got pregnant and was feeling vulnerable is pretty much taking any sort of accountabllity on her side
Her lack of morals and empathy are another reason
I hope she knows, despite the hardships, at least society doesnt condemn single mother and her children as they did couple generations ago. It is not the best way to raise children as you do two people’s job, but I hope she toughen up and have better plan than entangled with lying married man
What planet do you live on, they still hate single mothers @@날Gnarleigh리
There are different types of people who even think about marred men. She can look for any type of save, but the moment when she chooses that her saviour is someone who should save his family shows what type of the person she is.she is narcissistic person who doesn't see other people feelings.
He’s not a boyfriend. She’s his side piece. She’s just as scummy as the married man. Anyone that intentionally dates a married man has no morals. I have ended friendships with people like her.
Exactly.
Same here.
BOOM! She’s a side chick and needs to know her role if that’s the role she wants. Talking about being a girlfriend lol! Girlfriend where?????
Listen, I have a friend who was seeing a married man for a few months and had no idea this guy was married. She really liked this guy. We found out through a coworker that he was Married! she showed us the wife's social media and the family, date, wedding pics were all there. She immediately texted him that she would no longer be seeing him and that she found out, his response was that they were separated and if he had told her she wouldn't have given him a chance and her response was to block him. She was mortified. But had she continued to see this guy we would no longer be friends.
the caller is side kittah
This lady is looking for validation, not advice. She answers her own questions multiple times and guides John to the answers she wants to hear.
Almost 20 years ago, when my father had been dead for 3 years, and my Mom was dying in a nursing home, I was cleaning out stuff from his home office. I had to drill open the lock of a filing cabinet. I discovered a large amount of correspondence (paper letters- pre-internet) between him and his MISTRESS of 13+ years. All of a sudden a number of "oddities" (his random "business trips" as a REALTOR (she lived about 100 miles away), a P.O. Box MILES from our home for "business", etc.) made sense. The mistress called it off because she was worried of one of them having a health emergency (both aged in their 60's at the conclusion) during a "tryst". I was a WAY full grown man, age 45. I was CRUSHED. He was never a very good father, but I thought that he was at least TRYING, and doing the best he could. WRONG. I can't even imagine how horrible it must be for the kids they dragged into this train wreck. I actually had to seek counseling help to deal with the "loss" of the image of my father. The counselor strongly advised me to tell my 2 younger brothers, to seek their support, as he said it would help me a lot. I agreed that it would help me greatly, but the PRICE would be dumping a truckload of pain onto THEM, something I wouldn't do. The only person I ever told was my beloved late wife. She's the one who urged me to seek counseling.
When people do crap like this, they send out WAVES of pain to others, like ripples in a pond. Sickening.
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I am so sorry this happened to you.
I’m sorry this happened to you! How selfish people are is crazy 💔
I am so sorry.
That married man with GROWN kids has ZERO intentions to divorce his wife and marry a 30 year old with three children, one of them being ten months old... I am glad these phone calls are somewhat anonymous because this is really embarrassing for her to put out on the internet.
My late husband told his numerous flings that he was separated, getting divorced, or that we had a roommate arrangement. If you don't hear it directly from his wife, he is unavailable to enter into a relationship with you. Once a cheater, always a cheater.
Why did you stay with him? As you said he had numerous flings...Probably, he was not using the condom with them...Why were you putting your health in danger?
@@linapesz313I agree with you! It's more common than you think.... It's sad, most wives stay with a cheating husband bc they think it will stop...
@@SaystheTruth3 If the husband is affluent some women don't even care as long as she is comfortable........yes I was surprised too!
It’s like if a man hits a woman. If he did it once he will do it again. Certain behaviors don’t just go away.
@@linapesz313 there are a lot of assumptions in that comment. Maybe she didn't find out until after he passed
If a married couple is actually separated and is in the process of divorcing, their new boyfriends/girlfriends don't have to be kept a secret. That his wife "found out" about his cheating means that they were NOT actually separated or in the process of divorce at the time, although it is possible that they may be now. Also, 99% likely he is also sleeping with other side chicks too.
Oh, you're one of those kind of people. Dating is after a finalized divorce...especially if you have kids so you're a role model with integrity.🤷🏾♀
@@kellywade8275 No it’s the fact that the wife “found out” about this woman. If it was amicable, a new partner should have been communicated to the wife. People separate without being divorced, the issue here is that he clearly deceived his wife and this woman is finding every reason to justify his behavior
@@kellywade8275 Nope. If you're separated, you're separated. Divorce can have too many hoops to go through, even a year waiting period for some. Dating during that is okay. IF you're actually separated. This man is not actually separated. 😊
@@gaaraxnaru So, desperate if you can't wait until the divorce is final which usually a cheating situation. Take time to be with yourself and heal. Separated is married, which isn't divorced...so, married. 👌🏾
bingo
She's laughing about destroying a family? Her level of cruelty is astonishing.
It sounds like that nervous laugh to keep from crying but she needs to realize and acknowledge that this is wrong for a thousand reasons and find someone single smh
It sounds as though he was on the way out but until someone is fully divorced it’s best not to get involved.
@@jadeedwards9276Nope. Let what Kathleen stated stand. Unless you agree with and can relate the caller.. 👀
@@nomihagan um no thanks
She doesn't care. These women will destroy everything to get what they want
It’s crazy to me how a 31 year old with 3 kids of her own is this dumb. Then hearing her happy-go-lucky voice and giggling makes me want to punch something. I admire John for having so much patience and compassion, I also admire the way he still call her out for her actions and behavior. Absolutely unacceptable.
She might have mental issues, such as BPD or ADHD or combination.
Or she's just a woman @@waterotter3625
@@waterotter3625dont make excuses for her. Even if she has issues, they are her issues, and hers to deal with. Not am excuse to make dumb decisions especially when she has all those kids and is being unserious 🙄 hold her accountable for her actions.
@@waterotter3625 - Neither of those would cause her to be how she is.
@waterotter3625 funny I have both those diagnosis and I have never slept with a married man.
If a man would cheat on the mother of his children.. he sure as hell wont be treating his mistress/homewrecker any better. And vice versa.
YEEEESSS!! 💯%
Outstanding comment. I'm going to remember it.
"Committment is telling the truth even when it's hard ". Well said Dr John!!
I’m embarrassed to say that I’m in a similar situation except I’m the poor wife. I filed divorce when I found out about his double life and now he is planning on moving in with the other woman. And we have 2 very young kids that don’t know what the hell is going on. And yes he wants 50/50 custody. She also has 1 child herself. They have absolutely no respect and no dignity. I’m looking forward to moving on with my life for myself and my children.
@Gemineye Intuition he might be a cheater. But he doesn't deserve not to share custody cause someone is mad. That's insane and unfair to kids. Low life's take kids from the other parent. Without real cause, drug abuse, ect.
@@T-CainesZR1 I want 60/40 physical custody just due to his work schedule. But he is adamant about 50/50 in writing and will “give me the extra time with the kids” if I want it. Pretty much he just wants to avoid paying child support. He is a loser.
from a stranger on the internet, i am sorry you are going through this and this may not help, but they will not have a successful lasting relationship. It may be 6 months or 10 years, but it will end and most likely end with one or both cheating... protect your kids as best you can and sending you strength.
@@johnsmith-kt7ef yes it will definitely end at some point. That’s what I keep reminding myself anyway. Thank you for your kind words.
Hugs to you. Good on you for filing for divorce. If you'd tried to make it work you'd honestly never trust him again, with good reason. These women that will cheat with a married man just end up with a cheater, how stupid are they?!
Jon says “You’re better than this”. No, she isn’t. She’s going to get just what she deserves until she finds her moral compass, which I predict will be never.
1000%. The children are the ones who deserve better.
This guy sucks made me lol😂
Not necessarily. As women were not often taught to see our value outside our body. We often look for validation that we're loved and desired based on a man "wanting" us. If more kids grew up in a home with parents that have a relationship with God, they'd learn that God loves them so they don't need attention and validation from men. They'd learn to have respect for self and require it from others. This is a lesson I learned in adulthood, could have saved a lot of hurt had I learned it younger.
@@fletcher0411 Yes!
@@fletcher0411, everyone has a reason to blame outside influences for their poor decisions and lack of integrity. It’s choosing not to go along with those negative influences that makes a person honorable.
I don't t blame the kids for hating you, I do too.
😂 … same
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lol dang!
Best comment
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When she said she was 31 I was absolutely shocked, I thought she was like 15. she acts and sounds younger than me and I’m 17.
My soul left my body thinking about how this woman has children, YIKES.
The last married man who asked me out, i told him to invest the money he would have to spend on me for dates and gifts in his kids. He was offended that i called him a bad father.
That is why he chose her...she is desperate and dumb...Women like you, do not fall for somone like him...
Someone please save this girl from wasting ten years waiting for this man to get a divorce. It's happened so many times
It wouldn’t last 10 years.
ya this dude isn't tossing his family away for his side piece...
No she should save herself. She is still insisting she will stay after all John told her
No, she deserves it.
Nah, let her sit and spin. Who’s going to “save” the wife who already wasted the last 20 years on this pathetic dude? Grandpa here deserves this future. Let him work himself into an early grave eating viagra raising these kids she’s saddling him with. They deserve each other😂
I love how he is holding everyone accountable here. I doubt she's going to change, but I think this was important for her to hear.
She not
You doubt she’s going to change but you don’t have that same energy towards the married man right?
She was not going to change, she called him with the expectations to hear "oh hunny, you're so gorgeous you go girl, tell them stupid kids and wife you are right and they are all wrong"
Is her laughter her defensive mechanism that she's not dealing with her reality?
It's like listening to a teenage caller lacking maturity to understand the reality or she's an ostrich with her head in the sand unable to see she's standing in a battlefield with all of the problems and issues going on
Yes. My sister does that. She’s also thirty. She’s in an abusive marriage and anytime I bring it up she giggles and her voice gets higher and she uses baby talk like “oh you silly Billy!”
@@Rikkilover17would she be willing to read “Is it Me?” By Natalie Hoffman? Or The Emotionally Destructive marriage by Leslie Vernick?
@@Rikkilover17that’s actually really disturbing!! 😧
No man that has been married long enough to have kids that are high school aged would want a woman with three small children. He found an easy target in this woman. He might get a divorce, but when that happens, he certainly will want NO responsibility. He will want a carefree life.
Girl. It takes a very noble man to step up and be the step father of three kids. It will NEVER happen. He’s using you for sex.
Men with any sort of option rarely pick a woman with 1 kid let alone 3 kids most likely from multiple other men. She’s probably cute and bubbly and a lot of naive tendencies. He saw his opportunity and took it with every lie imaginable. She will end up alone eventually when the looks fade away if she doesn’t do some work on herself.
@@mxusa8383 100%
@@mxusa8383 she will end up with his baby
Hey....I got with my husband and I had 3 kids and he helped me raise them into amazing adults.
Been together 19 years.
I mean... its rare... and I lucked out.
But he was NOT married. I still legally was.
@@Jennthegreen your husband I can guarantee wasn’t desirable to the younger prettier child free woman. Men that take on woman with kids do it because it’s the only option they have. No dig on him but that’s just reality of the situation. Men can have kids if his own and still land a girl 15 years younger than him with no kids if he’s worth something of value.
As the daughter of a father who was/is a serial cheater, I could never understand the mindset of the women who knowingly slept with a married man. I get it after this call.
This caller is selfish, naive, and desperate. She lacks insight and respect for herself. Those kids will NEVER accept her. There is a level of betrayal that cannot be undone.
I cannot believe she’s my age! This is gross🤢 I hope she gets the help she needs to have some sense of right/wrong. Unfortunately this doesn’t happen on its own often. So I hope after he breaks her heart she can see the truth and realize the wrong in choosing to be the side chick.
once a cheater always a cheater cause cheaters are not stupid they choose their females (not women) well--cheaters always choose females who are financially stupid, desperate and keen on being a victim.
A lot of side chick moms raise side chick daughters unfortunately… I’ve seen it and it’s sad…. it’s 💯 self esteem bc nobody who loves themselves wants to be in this position
Amen.
Where is the dad of these babies? I feel for them.
@@deb9806 me too. It's hearbroken.
THANK YOU FOR CALLING HER OUT!!! How she got him is how she's going to lose him.... Absolutely ridiculous 🤦🏾
Spot on...
Was wondering why she was ready to marry him after six months of being with him...I thought maybe he's successful but your point makes sense that she wants security and she already has children...
This lady is absolutely insane, I actually thought she was joking at first the way she’s just laughing about destroying a family. Absolute terrible influence on any kid
Hold up. HE destroyed HIS family. She is naiv af, but she did not break any vows, he did.
@@sarahtaavetti She contributed to it, you don't see anything wrong with a woman knowingly getting involved with a married man?
@@V.E.R.O. a married man that swore up and down that they were separated…. In her mind he was not married anymore. People stay legally married for years after separating for various reasons and are perfectly happy that their ex has moved on. It happens.
But even if she knew he was still married (and together) that makes her a person with questionable morals and ethics, yes. But the person who broke HIS vows to HIS wife is HIM. It is his responsibility as a husband to say no to any advances he might be getting. People have to stop portraying men as helpless victims of their urges.
If you are on a diet and just can’t resist that doughnut, it is not the donught to blame. Yes the dounught is unhealthy, but you chose to eat it. Nobody made you, you decided to. Take responsibility for your actions.
@@sarahtaavetti It's clear he's a douchebag and no one is portraying him as a helpless victim and no one thinks he is either. BUT she isn't one either and she is no less guilty, unlike a donut she has the ability to choose and she chose to be the other woman therefore she also has to take responsibility for her actions and the resulting mess that came after.
@@V.E.R.O. i guess it is true that he is not portrayed as helpless. But my point is more that only the people IN the marriage are responsible for it‘s Health, and ultimatly it’s destruction. Although I see it as a character flaw to be with an actively married man (which again, she thought they werent together anymore), she did NOT destroy a family. He did that on his own. He is the one that cheated, he is the one that broke the boundaries. Sure, she had the choice of not helping him. But it‘s not her responsibility to make his marriage work. Plus, people who want to cheat will just cheat. If not this woman, then the next one.
Honestly, If my husband cheated on me with some random hussy, yes, I‘d be pissed at her too. But ultimatly that is a deflection of anger. HE is the one that broke my trust, not her. Me and her didn’t have an agreement. Me and him, however, did. HE would have broken my trust, not her. I don‘t know that B*.
If the stability of your marriage depends on whether the other woman says NO to your husband, then you and I have different definitions of what a „stable marriage“ is. It‘s the husbands job to say no, not the other woman‘s.
She in for a world of hurt. Because when a man gets divorced the last thing he wants is to marry immediately.
yep. he might not want to do that for at least 3 years
@@co9971especially marry a woman with 3 kids!! She has a 10 month old!! His kids are graduating!!! He just wants the sex!! She is lamer than lame.
This!! My cousin was in a relationship with a married man for years waiting for him to get divorced once his kids were old enough. Once he did finalize he he said he would never get married again and would never commit to creating a life and being in a serious relationship again.
@@kg-13131 cool. Best for everyone when those who are incapable take themselves out of the mix.
Sometimes people do remarry right away, men and women, BUT they're people with huge issues that nobody should be proud to marry
Leah has the maturity of a 19yr old college girl. But she actually has kids of her own! Scary. It's one thing to acknowledge that you are the side chic and be okay with it. It's something else entirely to acknowledge your position and still think that you deserve respect and admiration from the kids of the other family. That's delusional.
She is deserving of a loving life, that’s the crux. We are all just looking for love in a fallen world.
@@user-lt1jd1ye3v She can't expect to get it at the expense of others. Plus she started dating a married man when she had a 4 month old baby, and 2 other kids. That's insane, how did she even find the time
Yes but the man is taking advantage of her she is child like and immature that what's he is going • men lie to women then some women fall for it she probably loves him fed her a bunch of lies and she fell for it
@@jacquelineguzman197 are you making excuses for a grown woman with 3 children? No one is 'taking advantage' of her. It's not as if the man lied to her or kept her in the dark about his marriage and his situation. She knew fully well what she was getting into. And she's just as accountable as he is for the mess her kids and his kids are being dragged through. As a woman, I hate this idea that women are such poor damsels that are so easily manipulated, especially not after 3 kids.
Birth control?????
Married men lie. I met a guy at work. He was flying in from another city for 2 years and told me he was going through a divorce. The wife called me and said I see my husband is calling you. I apologized, said I didn't know and promised to drop him which I did. He totally lied to me.
It sounds like you stopped and apologized to her, and if so, better for you… you don’t need that bad karma and drama 🙏🏼
People believe what they want to believe, why would your circumstances be any different?
The sad thing is I bet she stayed right?
@@mrv2308why does that matter?
@@RosannaRS it matters because she was getting played like a fool. And no self respect if she did.
This girl (not a woman by any stretch of the immagination) is 31 going on 15. Her rising inflection after every sentence is a huge indicator of her immaturity!!! Good Lord, her poor kids are stuck with this vapid person.
It was hard to listen to.
Yea I felt like I was listening to a 15 yr old with her first crush. I bet her kids are from all different fathers too. What a disgusting human.
Fifteen is the exact same emotional age I attributed to her, as well. Oy. She's totally insufferable. I hope there's a lightning bolt moment before all of the kids on both sides of this mess need intensive therapy.
31?? She sounds so young.
“….according to who?”
Exactly. Stupid, insufferable woman. Zero integrity.
The way she’s laughing about this is wild
It's because she's nervous and embarrassed.
@@rachelkruse9087 And rightfully so. She should be ashamed of herself.
She sounds very stupid!
It really is. The delulu and low self esteem is crazy.
She is nervous and feeling shame. We do not know what trauma she has dealt with. I appreciate his approach, firm, honest and with compassion. I believe she called because she needed to hear this, as she hasn't learned to trust what her gut already knows.
This poor girl sounds like she’s a totally immature person. Very unfortunate. My wife’s parents had a falling out similar with the whole cheating/other woman thing. Her and the siblings HATED that woman, daddy married her anyways, and he ended up divorced again. Don’t do this, it doesn’t work.
Why did the children hate the other woman so much and not their dad? Is it projection...not wanting to face a loved one could hurt them like that so just blame the woman
@@princess199799 why not hate a homewrecker? Bring stigmas back.
@@WillIam79-c7f The husband knew he was married and took vows he is majority responsible the woman didn't make him cheat he was probably already thinking and planning to do it. Her being the homewrecker implies that he had no choice in the matter when he absolutely did but blaming the other woman is easier I suppose
of course she has multiple kids (guessing from different dads) and latched on to some guy who i am betting is at least 10 years older then her and can be a provider her with financial security, bc the odds of her finding a guy to take on her hot mess of a situation is very unlikely... Its more of a red flag that she is saying she would get married to him after only knowing him for 6 months.
@@princess199799 oh it absolutely ruined their relationship with him too, don’t get me wrong lol but that woman, to them, was the devil.
As my mother always told me, "You lose em how you got em." If there's a man willing to leave a woman for you, he will leave you for another woman. Old habits die hard.
This always sticks with me. ❤
"Trust me, I know I have problems"
"NOO. Nope, nope. You cannot just write them off as problems. You're making choices."
That is a statement to bring to the woman in the mirror (talking about me). That is so good.
If I have a friend who is "dating" a married man, I would drop that friend. Tells you a lot about a person's morals and character.
Awesome. More people with integrity. A person‘s character is important
My friend of 32 years ( we were each others maid/matryn ) of honour, is best friends with the side piece that my husband stepped out with. She cheated on her husband and kids as did my husband. Then she cheated on them both with another mutual friends husband ( classy )
Yet she is still best friends with her and I’ve had to step away from the friendship as it’s too triggering and painful to be friends with her.
I feel like I’m losing everyone and I’ve done nothing wrong
Thank u for saying this 🙏🫂💜
@@goinggaga4ladygaga just think about it though, is that the type of person you would like to surround you or your kids?
@@maylynbayani no it’s not. Still hurts to lose someone you’ve been so close to for so long, especially when you don’t have too many people to begin with. I would’ve thought she’d understand as her husband cheated on her also. Loyalty is a big thing for me, to give and to receive.
When you're dating a married mn you're not the girlfriend. You're the sidechick.
Polite way of saying shes a whore
You are a piece to him & nothing more. You get what you deserve, shame on you for getting involved with a married man.
More accurately; she along with him are adulterers.
They used to call it a "mistress" and I think we should keep that. She's his mistress, not his girlfriend.
Do they really "date", or is she just a booty call?
I love how direct and honest Dr John is with his callers. They need to hear it.
I remember when my best friend told me she was dating a married man with kids because they have a "deep connection and were meant to be together". Yeah...our entire friendship of over ten years ended because I tried to tell her this basic information. That she was wrong, and the whole relationship was wrong. And, of course, they suffered a terrible breakup that changed so many lives for the worse. It was sad.
Yes, and once you discover that someone is capable of such an egregious act you might as well separate yourself because there’s no telling what else she’s capable of doing. Cheating is dangerous on multiple levels. I wish more horror stories were televised then maybe people would think twice.
For every story like yours there is one of great success. My boss was married when he met the love of his life and she was married also. They were both miserable in their respective marriages. They got divorced and married eachother and have been the most romantic couple I have ever met for over 40 years. Should they have just lived a life of misery with the wrong person?
@69429boss - the problem isn’t someone finding ‘the love of their life’ or divorce! The problem is the CHEATING, BETRAYAL, LIES, MANIPULATION, and the DANGER (physical, emotional, psychological, spiritual, etc. for the betrayed spouse and any respective children.) Do you actually believe that your boss and his new wife didn’t know that they were miserable BEFORE meeting each other? Of course they did. But, they stayed married to ‘misery’ whilst waiting for something better to come along because it wasn’t that miserable! People will say anything to justify their actions or minimize their role esp when involved in such an egregious act. Your boss and his new wife definitely deserve each other. I don’t care how they appear to be; there’s something looming inside of them that goes dark about their situation.
Hum thank God that not everybody has a friend like you. Some people get into those situation and their head is not there but to leave your friend, to END UP a 10 year friendship because of a mistake it shows that you have very little grace. I hope nobody ends a friendship with you for a mistake that you have done.
@KymKiswe People choose a partner over their own blood family all the time. Do you really think dropping long-term friendships of those who don't affirm their relationship choice is hard to imagine? No, its not. But you do you.
One of the best parts of this whole call is the fact that John did not tell her not to read the comments. Leah if you read this please listen to all of us. Focus on your kids, you have a baby for goodness sake. Focus on yourself and become someone they can be proud of.
If she marries this dude there is a massive chance they will divorce. Putting those kids through another divorce after they live with a very uncaring man who cheats on his partner. No one should want their kid's stepfather to be a liar, cheater and selfish person. NEVER choose the man over your kids.
@@sueblack5794 Is the dad of the kids in the picture?
“But i love him HEHEHEHEHE” 🤢
@@sueblack5794there us only a 3% chance it would work out.
Some people so consumed with their own happiness, they literally dont see anything wrong with ruining lives of others as long as they get what they want.
I’ve seen that myself
This episode was somehow so validating to me. 5 years ago my husband suddenly up and abandoned me and my daughter for another woman about 10 years younger than me (I was 30 so imagine that Lol) - he blindsighted me and our daughter too. And yet I felt like the evil petty one for not being comfortable whenever the other woman is brought up or my daughter is in their company. I've tried to convince myself I'm bad for disliking the other woman and trying to tell myself maybe she's not a bad person, that it's his fault and maybe he lied to her too (he probably did) ... but no- now I know there's no way she couldn't have known that she was a catalyst in destroying our family. In no world does a man just happen across someone better the very same moment he is conveniently already breaking it off with his wife.
In retrospect the separation needed to happen bc I'm in a way better place now and I'm with someone who respects me a whole lot more... but this episode at least helped me come to terms with the fact that some of my feelings of disdain for my ex husbands new girlfriend were valid. What kind of self respecting person puts themselves in a situation where they are destroying a family ? And what's to stop him from doing it to her next?
Thank you for this episode John. I'm still healing and my daughter is too- and hearing your answer to this woman helped me to not feel like I'm totally crazy or "jealous." I just felt wronged and lied to, is all.
My sisters husband , aged 30, hooked up with a 17 year old. Marriage with 4 young children over. He and the slut married for many years...miserable. He's nasty to her She married for many years...happy. So there you have it.
I know people who have been through this, believing that the guy was getting a divorce for 6 years! Ended up finding out that she was not the only side chick.
Agree such a common story
And the poor wife, has all of his children, because at one time, she to fell for his BS lies, and love bombing. He is a narcissist and they only love and care for themselves. RUN!!!!!!!
"I'm probably the wrong guy to talk to, then." 💯👍🏼
That was the best thing I've heard. It was beautiful. She really believes a married man with his own kids is going to leave his wife for her? An easy 304 woman with 3 young kids? No. No man wants that. Men will say anything to sleep with a woman, but it's not truth. He treats her nicely because he ISNT committing to her. Unless he procures divorce papers, he is still married and intends to remain married.
Since she just left an abusive relationship, it sounds like this woman needs to do a ton of healing of herself before she understands how she is being treated like trash right now. The married man may not be abusing her, but he is taking advantage of her and she needs to know she is worth more than this. Everyone deserves better here.
Yeah, but she won't.
You're right. She needs to focus on her children and building up a good life for the family she already has. Many women have done it, even if it means, like many mothers do, going to the food banks, getting food stamps, etc. I am in awe of women who work two and three jobs to keep their families afloat. Women do so much to pick themselves back up and they get vilified for it.
Yep, she's comparing her last relationship with him so of course, he seems like a miracle man. He's also pretending because if he were to leave his wife, she'd see him behave exactly as her last relationship.
She is treating his kids and her kids like trash.
"He is relationship dysfunction ... and you are too." Much respect.
A relationship that starts out in cheating will more than likely end in cheating 💔
I said the exact same thing when Brad left Jennifer for you know who. It was a matter of time.
The caller’s immaturity is astonishing.
And she’s breeding like rabbits
Just because you want something doesn't mean it's right or good for you.
No guy is more perfect, attentive, and mysterious like a married guy. It’s a passionate nosedive right onto a wall. I think most women have more compassion for the whinning of a full grown man than for the hurt of another woman. We’re made to compete. But it’s always a circus to call yourself dating a guy who is still married. Find someone who is available to date. Even if you dont care for the other wife, find someone that is fully available.
😂I love this! "Passionate nosedive into a wall"
Artfully spoken
She has a 10 month old!! She’s been with a married man since her baby was 4 months old. What a complete hot mess. 🤮 🤮
She's gross AF. 🤢🤢🤢
Dating and/or winning a cheater is nothing to flex about. How you got them will be how you lose them. No matter how hard you try to convince yourself that he loves you, you'll ALWAYS have the thought (him cheating on his wife) in the back of your mind. Sooner or later, those thoughts will get in the way of your so-called relationship, causing turmoil.
You lose them how you got em
Learn how to be alone. Please don't go jumping into another relationship.
Glad the doctor is straightforward with her. I hate it when people use nice words to hide the honest ones.
So my mom actually did this to my dad and our family. The guy my mom cheated on my dad with, we hated him. He had the audacity to say that because we were older we would be fine. My mom then decided her relationship with him was much more important that even her relationship with her children. My siblings and I are into our late 20’s and let me tell it hurts no matter what. One day those kids will realize the dysfunction and it will feel as it just happened.
Thank you Dr. Delony for not sugar coating this!
@Cecilia limones, is your mom still married to the other dude?
I'm so sorry this happened to you.
My mom did this too. I was twelve. She married the guy, and my siblings and I hated him. They stayed married though. My father also remarried, but they ended up divorced.
She doesn't care. She's very immature. She has no clue the damage she's doing. Selfish and childish. I feel for the children. If she were able to say no to adultery then she could say yes to life. Extremely selfish omg..
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Indeed, I can confirm. When I caught my husband cheating, his messages to other women stated that "we tried working through things but it didn't work out" which insinuated he was out the door but he "tried". Meanwhile everytime I had a bad feeling he would say nothing is wrong and he would either blame it on work stress, or accuse me of being insecure.
These men all have the some stories 🤦🏾♀️😂
“My wife is a horrible person, she does not love me, she has a lover herself.”
Same. It's all the same old diatribe. He even messaged her that we didn't sleep in the same bed while I and our small child were asleep beside him.
It’s crazy how “the other woman” cherade is the same story over and over and they never learn.
She doesn't want to admit that she is a mistress, that she is a homewrecker. I don't mean that in like she is a horrible person, she is deluded.
She's a narcissist, in her mind it just means that she's so awesome and pretty and irresistible that this guy will cheat on his own wife and sabotage his kids childhood just to sleep with her... it's an ego boost for her and I bet she takes pleasure in it. I had the exact same situation with my step-mom who started dating my Dad when he was still married to my mom.
No honey she is not deluded, she is just evil. No way around it. She chose to commit adultery with a man with three children. That is an awful person.
Respectfully, you are WRONG. She IS a horrible person.
@@sarahalderman3126 THANK YOU for calling it what it is. You are absolutely right.
She is not a home wrecker. That home was wrecked when she got there.
The caller reminds me of those friends that constantly complains about an issue and you give them solid advice. They NEVER listen & follow the advice because they wanted a yes man. When it backfires then they come back hurt x broken wishing they would’ve listen.
Those people are called Askholes
I had to drop this friend 😂 I'm an adult who takes of myself now. I can't run to you whenever you make stupid choices and help you clean up like when we were teens😂😂
Yes yes yes. My sister is like this. In an abusive relationship for 15 yrs. I've let her live with me given her money, advice, etc when she left, helped raise her kids and she really didn't want to hear any of it. She just needed a few weeks break and then would go back. This woman pissed me off. I loved when he told her there's something wrong with you when you're like "well I just want to be with him" (in a high pitched voice) and ur helping to ruin this family. I understand the nervous laugh but you aren100% dead on, she thought she was going to call and he was going to say yeah it's totally normal, he's not lying, I swear he's gonna leave his wife. Seems obvious she was going to ignore every piece of advice he gave which is sad cause if she thinks this guy is going to divorce his wife, leave his kids and move in with her and take on her 3 kids, and not do the same thing to her, she's absolutely insane. Iv3 truly never understood people who stay with cheaters or who hook up with someone who's married. It's typically not a 1 and done thing and some people think they're different and the person won't cheat on them. It's absolute insanity.
" 'I just got problems'...noooo, you are making choices"....deep
I love that he said that! My exact thoughts. People use excuses as them having “problems” as a reason for their choices and it’s not an excuse.
31 with 3 kids. She just wants to hurt another woman just like she was hurt by the women her baby daddy/daddies cheated on her with. She’s carrying on like a teenager. Pathetic
I’m so glad John called a spade a spade here. Cheating is such a disgusting, scummy thing to do. This woman lacks a shred of empathy and seems to barely have two brain cells to rub together. I feel for her kids. They have such an unstable mother who only thinks of herself.
Why is she even calling? Honestly 😂 I’m sleeping with a married men- why do his kids hate me? Duh honey just duh. She will end up alone with kid number 4
I think she wanted validation but then got a reality check
If he cheats with you, he will cheat on you.
She won’t leave him no matter what happens. 20 years later when her own kids are traumatized and don’t like her and she realizes that she wasted her life, she’ll wonder what happened
“You’re just worth so much more…”
Thinking the jury may still be out on this one….
😂
Lmaooooo
3 kids. Running around after a married man at when she has a newborn. Jury is very much still out.
Haha 🤣 completely oblivious to why the kids of married man she is seeing is put off by their father’s side piece. The jury is certainly still out.
She said she's 31, but she's acting like she's 21. Grow up lady.
I am thinking age nine.
More like 15. I’m 20 and I’d never think to help a man commit adultery and laugh about it. Unless she’s playing up her naïveté to manipulate John.
Honestly I would have thought she was 13, if it wasn't for the fact that I already knew this was not a pedo case. This woman sounds like a literal child
@@TuAmigoElMorrocoyabsolutely what i was going to say. She has the maturity of a 13 year old
@@TuAmigoElMorrocoy today's 21 is yesterday's 13.. Lol
😂 this reminds me of my ex. She left me for a married man who was still living with his wife. Dude said the exact same thing to my wife at the time. As of now he’s still with his wife and she’s history to me. Self worth 😊
If you get divorced you should wait awhile before dating again and you shouldn’t date til you have learned where you went wrong in marrying the person you married.
Pretty disgusting how giddy she is in such a terrible situation. Gross
She's still riding high off of all the new feelings and drama.
Laughter is a normal coping skill for a lot of people when they feel nervous or uncomfortable. You can't judge someone based on that.
@@jennifernunya909 True, but the fact that she chooses to still stay in a situation does show her true feelings.
I once had a married man try and hit on me. I knew he was married because I knew his wife. I flat out told him if you hit on me again I’ll talk to your wife. Now go home to her and leave me be.
At least I have morals
That man is disgusting for even bringing this woman into his kids lives.
He got caught. He probably never intended it
I don't think he brought her to the family.
He may not have made her any promises.
Thank you for making this crystal clear and helping destroy the ridiculous fantasy. Those kids’ lives are on the line, they all deserve better.
The woman that got with my dad when he was married destroyed peoples lives. He eventually divorced and got with her, and they was happy a few years, but his eyes looked other places. What made her so special? Nothing. So she eventually sat at home each day while he left and did “things” that have him stay over night at times. So she said “as long as he comes back home then he loves me.” She wanted marriage but he wouldn’t marry her, and she lived like that til she died.
Your dad destroyed lives including hers. Sadly.
ur dad is evil
Her and your 'dad' are both, so pathetic.
@@peaceofmindofpeace1650 yeah, the dad in question left his wife for some woman who he didn't even want to marry. He's nobody special either. A real family person(man or woman) wouldn't even consider letting a 3rd party come in and ruin family. As for the woman, she's just a Jezebel and shouldn't have expected anything more than to play 2nd fiddle to his next conquest. Cause what comes around, goes around.
That man wants his cake and eat it to!
I need John as a therapist in my life. The care and candidness in his voice is top notch
I feel badly for the wife and all of the kids. As far as her “deserving more”…not until she gets that moral compass adjusted. She left an abusive relationship 4 months after giving birth and ended up with this?? She needs help.
Her title: My Boyfriend's kids are traumatized by him dating. I think he's babying them.
No hun, I think he's trying his hardest to stay within their good graces, especially since finding out that their Dad despite still LEGALLY married to their mother already has a girlfriend.
She has no regard for his children and their feelings because once he's treating her right, the world is good in her book.
I know so disrespectful