The Best Dogfighter | F-14B Tomcat Vs Chinese J-11 Flanker-L DOGFIGHT | Digital Combat Simulator |
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Back with a little Tomcat dogfighting, felt so long since I'd been in the Tomcat so felt great to get back in there and do some dogfighting, thank you guys for watching, all the best.
Love your vids, especially F-14s. It brings me back to the days I was maintaining the AWG-9 and weapons control systems back in the day. I believe, if this type of simulation was available back then, myself, and my technicians, would have had better communication between the RIO/NFOs when debriefing systems failures, and anomalies.
I go back to the F-4 N-J-S (AWG-10 & AERO-1C) days as well. Phantoms Phorever!!
In my day it was the F-4. High speed overflight at 200' in weapons hot show down with Soviets at 100' yards with guns and missiles drawn in Indian Ocean 1975. Saw if face to face, after I discovered the Soviet sub infiltrating the defense group (USS Midway) on sonar and tracked firing solution on the Soviet sub.
As a TrackIR user I'm always trying to look around the cockpit while watching these videos. I've even reached for F12 a few times.
what does F12 do? reset the track?
😂
I have never played DCS. I used to be a heavy gamer, so much so that when I used to get in trouble in real life, I started looking for the escape key to re load my life 😂😂😂
@@elijahbrown3306 centers the TrackIR....I only just discovered you can move it from F12 to another button (It interferes with F12 menu in game)
@@Wolfe351 wouldnt it be better to bind it to a button in the joy? i still dont use track IR and mvoe the camera manually with a hat.. but i allways had a button to reset the view in all my hotas
That's pretty interesting about the Flanker engines cutting out when inverted like that, wonder if its just the engines flooding or if they're getting oxygen starved too due to airflow.
It must be the airflow.
Reminds me of carb float in the spitfires lol
they were too focused on making a high aoa one circle beast of a 4th gen fighter and forgot that with the intakes mounted under the jet they get no air when the plane is inverted because of the leading edge wing extension at the front of the plane blocks the air from getting in the engine. this is why the f15 has side mounted air intakes that can move depending on the aoa so air will always be flowing into the intake.
12:39 this is beautiful cinematic view.
Great flying from both pilots.
hi
After all the recent vids of F-15E and A-10 ground attacks, I would love to see you do the same with the Su-25. I dont think I've ever seen you do ground attack with the Frog Foot.
As always, your content is top notch! Appreciate all your hard work!
Second this, I’d love to see it
love seeing Toxic as an OPFOR pilot. He is such an amazing competitor and he seems to bring out the best in you!!
i just find it so counter intuitive that the tomcat is such a great dog fighter while being soooo huge
Most of its lift comes from its fuselage, that might help
The Flanker is actually longer though, and has the same wingspan as a tomcat with the wings half swept.
@@SkilletsUSMCThe f-14 has a massive lifting body that contributes a staggering amount of lift. The flanker has a lifting body too iirc but it's not to the same extent. Nowhere close, in fact.
@@1nfinte Almost a flying wing.
Just got the F-14 and watching your videos have really helped me learn how to dogfight and keep a advantage over what ever you are fighting. Thanks for the awesome content Growling Sidewinder!
Thank tou GS for providing quality content to us fans. The way you explain the dogfights as you are doing it, calmly analysing and reacting to every situations blows my mind. You truly are a master in your craft.
11:38 lmaooo
"Oh he does a cobra!!... and he's dead."
Would love to see an F-14 vs F15E Strike Eagle dogfight. Both are very heavy aircraft. On paper the F-14 is of course the better dogfighter, but it will still be interesting to see how a full on head to head dogfight between these two titans pans out.
The F14 is capable of dogfighting, and beating the F15C. The Strike Eagle doesn't stand a chance.
F-14 can keep up with most fighters in experienced hands. I don't think Strike Eagle really has a chance unless there's a skill gap in between pilots.
Why was the F 14 retired?
@@KungFuWizardOfJesus Very costly to maintain and complex. Grumman had an upgrade proposal called the "Super Tomcat 21" , but ultimately the Navy chose a multi role fighter, The FA-18 and decided not to further develop the Tomcat.
Navy brass and Dick Cheney had a boner for Grumman at the time. Glad I got to see that beast leave the deck of Connie on West Pac.
@@leib109 Already happened in late May
Best channel on RUclips by a country mile! Keep pushing the content, best wishes from the UK 🇬🇧
Thank you, appreciate you greatly. All the best.
Always a pleasure watching the F-110 powered Tomcat splash Flankers. Great flying. Keep 'em coming!
I just wish i could see old Navy footage of young pilots in f-14s, facing off against the instructors in the f-16N variant.
Keep the tomcat videos coming!!! So damn fun watching you fly that badass jet!!👍🔥
9:15 To quote Mal Reynolds, "You take a boat in the air that you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds."
“the flanker, far far superior to the F14 when it comes to the 1 circl-“
F14 flaps manual wing sweep and differential thrust: **allow us to introduce ourselves**
looooooool the flanker SHOULD still win, but yes those things help.
@@GrowlingSidewinder flaps wing sweep and differential thrust defeats in dogfight, if it’s a BVR, you gotta get the amraams or AiM 152s back
Love these kinda videos. Glad your doing some again.
"Anything is better than what you're doing that's about to get you killed." 😂
Think we found our next shirt design, with a picture of a flanker getting shot while doing a cobra.
A surprise cobra maneuver taken out by a guy named Sidewinder....fitting end to a good vid on a great channel.
Keep doing what you do. It is helping others learn and growing your channel all while creating good vibes.
Imagine the F-14 with newer engines that are actually reliable and a helmet site.
F14B had good engines only the A had issues with TF30s (but was faster at altitude)
The GE engines in the B and D model Tomcats were outstanding. But your overall point is valid. A fully modernized Tomcat would still be a serious force to be reckoned with.
Modern engines, a HMCS, AIM-120Ds and AIM-9Xs on the Tomcat would make just about any enemy sit up and take notice.
@stanger427 Grumman had a fully fleshed out plan for all the future upgrades to the F14....they did not count on Dirty Dick Cheney holding a grudge from years before when they refused to change something he wanted. Its been discussed extensively all over the place....lol
Good morning Folks ! It's Canada Day long weekend here North of the border. Having coffee while enjoying GS channel ! Time to time I will watch other channels other then GS and Longshot's in terms Digital Combat Simulation dogfighting . There is NO QUESTION that on a pure skill set level , GS has to be Top Three in the world today. Brother this is beyond entertainment now. You turned this into a science.
@GrowlingSidewinder Happy 4th of July!!!! Thanks for another Cat movie XD
Thanks GS!! I didn't even know I needed this video today!! I loved every second of it all.
Dude I know you’re Canadian but if you were a American Air Force pilot you’d have the potential to be one BMF.
great video brother, as always of course
Great fights, F-14 looks like a great plane to fly.
I'm learning the F-5E currently to fly some cold war scenarios.
I can imagine the Gs being pulled on this one, and over that ocean it looked stunning. Great flying!
Maverick: I’ll hit the brakes and he’ll fly right by….
GS: Not when I’m on your six.
The Tomcat is still the best looking fighter ever made. There is never an angle it looks bad from.
Mig 29 and
Rafale
@@anthonyurso3554 Tomcat looks better.
@@W1ckedRcL Su-27 family, the sexier is the Su-35
@@mikes989 Tomcat still looks better. Problem with Sukhoi fighters is landing gear. They look like a bodybuilder that skips leg day with the gear down.
@@W1ckedRcL maybe the mig 29 but the Rafale is pretty sick. The f14 is like a muscle car ahead of its time like a nice corvette from 60s and the Rafale is like a modern sports car
Another great fight. The 360° battle field in the sky is so amazing to watch. Also when's the next mini doc going to drop ?
Papa Sidewinder is the one person on youtube I let teach me anything, even DCS.
Most excellent fight!! Props to both pilots!!!
This was some SPICY Flanker on Tomcat action!
Love the videos. Can I ask how you know all this stuff? I’d love to read up on some of the theory behind the tactics you’re using. Anyways, keep up the good work 👍
the way the 14 shakes - looks like it's gonna rip apart mid flight. lol
Nothing fights like the tomcat! Love that aircraft and certain certain watching your vids have improved my BFM
Loved seeing the rounds hitting the water in the first fight!
YOU ARE REALLY DANGEROUS WITH THE F-14!!! 👏👏👏👏
In that situation, flying defensive, pulling a cobra is just asking to get shot in the back because you are presenting the broadest aspect to your attacker's crosshairs.
You didn't jam the flaps this time, great job! 👍🤜😅
You know it's so interesting watching this because in a game that I play all I do is dogfight so I love learning all these new things
Something about watching flankers maneuver in the air is mesmerizing
I like that TOXIC keeps pushing you hard. Great fight!
😮needed this to show up in my notifications!!
Ah, the good old cobra into slow moving target maneuver. Desperate times call for desperate measures I guess.
I see Tomcat, I instantly hit like 👍
The best Flanker performance recently!
Did you see the new flat nozzle design for SU-57 making it more maneuverable and of course😂 stealthy, it almost looks like the F-22's nozzles which was one of the main design feaultures of the F-22
Just imagine a super tomcat 21 flight model for DCS.
That would be insane
honestly, they could just reskin an F15E or EX and it would be a very close approximation. Or give the F35 a Tomcat skin and two engines. The Super Tomcat 21 was basically the sales pitch to the Navy for a Tomcat that could give it a naval Strike Eagle.
@@Clean97gti That's it, but navy wanted a fleet defender and strike aircraft like F/A-18E/F.
The rounds hitting the water was so killer
You're really good in the two circle, but I'd really appreciate it to see you do more one circle fights.
Doing a 2 circle fight is a hard concept for me watching these videos. Note, never played DCS I just enjoy watching.
For me in DCS 2 circle is no issue its the rolling vertical fights where I get lost instantly.
Kickin it olde skool. More please.
Great fight.
He almost got away with the Cobra too. I think only 3 or so bullets hit him.
Amazing plays
i love the dogfighting with jets however i wish we could see more prop plane dogfights that is what i think alot of pepole look for cause not many do many vids of that anymore. anyway love the stuff keep it up
Something strangely satisfying too see a Flanker gunned after a Cobra move.
Man I love your videos. It's so nice to have military-escue content free of political BS. It's also entertaining and educational. Just refreshing and relaxing. Love you and wish your channel only the best! From Russia with love
Can you do f16 vs f18 high off bore sight? It would be very interesting
Hi Growling, great video! I like how you can use thrust differential to maneuver but it must be a fine art to decide between the maneuvering and engaging both engines to regain energy? How do you decide?
The mid-Cobra guns kill was pretty sweet
Did not know Flanker engines stall while inverted. Almost like the old carbureted prop Fighters back in the day. Good to know, thanks.
This was a new one for me too. For an aircraft that can pull a cobra and effectively disrupt the flow of intake air in a similar fashion, I'm surprised that this would cause compressor stall.
The lost art of the dogfight.
People say it is a dead art. But they tend to only say that fight finds them. Practice the art as if your life depends on it... Because it and many others just may!
Well done!
Did you say that a Flanker can't do a 4G negative dive (without shutting down its engines)?
It can sustain some negative G but there is a slippery threshold where it does not come out of the manoeuvre and just becomes a dead turtle unless you roll it
Bro could go to top gun and be like, ‘i already know all this!’
After decades variable wings are still no joke.
Would love to see some A-4 vs
I feel like that Cobra almost worked, you just had a good reaction and landed the shot
when i see Toxic, i know its gonna be a good fight!
I love it when GS fights Toxic, because he actually kind of understands how GS likes to fly. Most pilots I see GS fight panic once they see him get them in the two circle, and they either bleed all their energy trying to jink or just give up and wait for him to kill them. Toxic understands that you can't let them strong-arm you into a disadvantageous position (which GS *loves* to do) and will do everything he can to not cooperate.
So yes, you know it will be an interesting match when Toxic shows up.
Loves these the most
The F14 is such a sexy aircraft. And very capable for how big it is
great unit choice. Just looks sick on a tomcat.
You should do another compilation video:) love the vids
Flankers and copies of Flankers = fantastic
R.I.P. to any fish that caught a random round from the Tomcat😂
What's odd is, I went back and rewatched those water shots... and some rounds were ricocheting off the surface of the water. Crazy physics there.
Your boy Toxic should get a raise in pay for hazardous sacrificial lamb duty...
If you are in a Chinese J10 against an F-35 you are dogmeat in a turning fight *unless* you take it to a vertical looping fight.
The '35 will struggle then and it allows you time to plan your next counter move rather than constantly worrying about it turning inside your circle.
*off topic I know but your commentary reminded me to post this*
@@RW-zn8vy Gaming son, gaming...you know...like this channel was created for ;)
This would be a cool fight to watch with reg fox 2s, just no helmet mounted sights
i think you mean the platform carrying the most capable missiles. the Phoenix
Bring back some ww1/ww2 content!!
Have you tried doing full deflection stall moves with the M2000? Its like hitting the brakes in the F18. I'd like to see 1 circle dog fighting between 2x m2000's above Yucca Flats/Tonopah test range.
Id Love to see you fly the J-20!
The Cat is such a beast! ❤😻
luv the Tomcat dogfights
Great fights!
Beautiful F14 you managed your speed relay good that was the cobra didn't work for him Gerat fight by you GS again
just been watching a channel of a real USAF F16 pilot in an actual dogfight (training) while he's talking to camera and honestly, this channel is more interesting. and im ex RAF too
At 7:35 I think the flanker could've potentially gotten a mutual kill if he didn't eject immediately and held the trigger down
bout time you got back to flying the cat lol, i missed it.
The J-11 pilot was a really good one in this vid. You can tell this is an aircraft problem not a skill one.
Loved watching this dance, one of the better I’ve seen on the channel
Great one indeed.
love it!
this is a very intricate ballet of death....
Engaging above mach 1 = hot pursuit.
You need a custom GS Helmet texture.
Interesting that a F-14B can dog fight. When the Strike Eagle struggles.
The STRIKE Eagle suffers a lot from being to heavy.... All the structural enhancements to make it a BOMB TRUCK to carry MASSIVE LOADS doesnt make it more agile
the visuals @7:45 I fucking love the tomcat good lord dunno why but shes beautifull