Exotic Birds: The Mooney Mite

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
  • Did you know that the amazing Mooney family of aircraft are all derived from a tiny single-seater? And what made this tiny Mooney so amazing?
    Enjoy this video about the Mooney M-18 Mite!
    Chapters:
    About Al Mooney
    00:34
    Culver Aircraft
    01:16
    The Mooney Mite is born
    02:14
    The Mite wing
    2:59
    The “Backwards” Tail
    04:13
    Retractable Gear
    05:16
    The Crosely Mite
    08:01
    An Affordable Plane
    10:02
    Price Increase
    11:23
    The M20 is Born
    11:38
    Final Thoughts
    12:42
    I love producing these videos! If you have any recommendations for other odd or unusual designs, drop them in the comments below and I’ll throw them in the mix.
    I don't own these clips. All rights are reserved to their respective owners, and used with prior approval. Creative common videos are also utilized. If your clip is included and you'd like it removed, please email me, and we'll address the matter right away. richard@e-sense.tv
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Комментарии • 266

  • @rexmyers991
    @rexmyers991 10 месяцев назад +45

    I retired from the airlines as a B767 Captain. I flew over 80 different makes and models in my career. The most memorable was the time I flew a Mooney Mite. The owner (very generously) said “ Go ahead, take it around the patch”. I’m 6 foot 4 1/2 inches tall and I managed to fit in the cockpit and even got the gear retracted. What a thrill. It flew beautifully. Just one take off and landing. It was amazing.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад +7

      Am glad you got to try it! My old man told me he and his buddies would simulate dog-fighting in Mites back in the 50s.

    • @jockellis
      @jockellis 10 месяцев назад

      My son in law is a 6-foot-7 Jet Blue captain. Wonder if he could fit in one

    • @fredbrillo1849
      @fredbrillo1849 9 месяцев назад +1

      I owned N4153 back in 1972. Traded it for a Piper Super Cruiser.

  • @frederickwoods5943
    @frederickwoods5943 10 месяцев назад +14

    There was a Mooney Mite in a separate small building at what is now called "Eagles Nest" on the west side of Waynesboro (Fishersville), VA. To this day I live about a half mile away from the airport. As kids my brothers and I sat in all the aircraft, particularly the Cubs, a Luscombe and others but never crawled inside the Mite. I have many stories of growing up spending Wednesday afternoons and Sundays "at the airport" ...

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад +1

      Small airports are the life! Glad you enjoyed it. I miss the experience too

  • @luislima4053
    @luislima4053 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for this explanation about Al Mooney and the history of this awesome aircraft !!!

  • @AC-jk8wq
    @AC-jk8wq 10 месяцев назад +5

    Really nice and fun presentation…!
    Plenty of Mooney facts and pictures…
    There must be about 200 Mite pilots still active in North America…
    Art and Al Mooney were awesome team leaders. They surrounded themselves with other good people that were still working for the company after 2000… 40+ years later…
    One detail you can add to your tail story…
    Look at the horizontal plane, and the vertical plane… they share so many parts, they look identical… thus, improving the manufacturing process. Art was a manufacturing genius!
    The rudder got a couple upgrades in the 60s…. Longer, and more throw….
    The original wooden tail design, had one failure as noted in this video…. It had a glue joint fail, after some previous known damage…. Most of the wooden tails were exchanged for aluminum after that…
    If Al Mooney can gear up a Mooney… so can anyone else. (Unfortunately)
    In the most modern Mooneys… the trim motor and flap motor operate at the same speeds. The pilot needs only to operate the trim while the flaps are being deployed…. 😃
    For your next Mooney video…. Consider the three different airframes Mooney built… short, mid, and long body Mooneys…
    With engine options from normally aspirated, to twin turbo-normalized with matching intercoolers and manifold pressure controllers…
    The Mite is quite the flying motorcycle. The wing may not be perfectly laminar…. But, the name fits the actual flying characteristics… it’s is really thin, and thus, low drag… compared to other thick, slow, GA wings.
    Mooneys are both fast and efficient…. It is up to the pilot how he wants to fly today.
    If you supply 100hp per person in the airplane…. It can climb like a rocket, and speed along faster than any other factory built aircraft…. With pretty short runway requirements…. With grass fields being OK too.
    Go Mooney!
    😃

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад +1

      Love the commentary, and rich information you added for our knowledge. Yes I had read about how the tail setup also made manufacturing easier, in fact some argue that's the ONLY reason the tail was backwards, but the guy who designed it isn't here to clear the air for us, so...
      I'd LOVE to fly a Mite one day. Not sure if my vast 150/172 will help much in transitioning to it, lol. My dad told me he used to go up with his friends in Mites back in the 50s and chase each other around the sky, I can't even fathom how much fun he had.
      My next Mooney video is about obscure or failed Mooney designs, I'm still picking which ones but certainly the Mustang and 301 will be part of it.

    • @AC-jk8wq
      @AC-jk8wq 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@aircraftadventures-vids
      Good news…
      Transitioning from C150/172 to a Mooney M20C is a common move from getting the PPL to owning a fantastic X-country machine…. Transition training requirements are insurance driven… often requiring 10hrs dual, and another 10hrs solo prior to carrying passengers…
      Transitioning to a Mite… has the challenge of being a single seater…. Find a good CFI that has Mite experience…
      There are a couple of websites that have Mooney Mite pilots hanging out…
      😃

  • @yucannthahvitt251
    @yucannthahvitt251 9 месяцев назад +2

    I love them, I just wish such a thing was possible today as a production aircraft. Unfortunately GA is dying because of old plane attrition, rising ramp and hangar cost, and how incredibly expensive new aircraft are. A Mooney Mite cost about as much as a Cadillac Coup De Ville in the 50s, can you imagine a certified retractable costing as much as a new Cadillac CT4 today (a mid $40,000 range car).

  • @jamestone265
    @jamestone265 10 месяцев назад +5

    I remember flying with my dad at Hawthorne Muni in Cubs and our Ryan SCW in the 50’s when I saw my first Mooney M20. My dad thought it was the plane for his future and loved it speed and low cost per hr. He lost his life in 1963 and never reach that goal.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад +1

      Sorry to hear! I know it was a long time ago, but still. He was damn right about the M20

  • @bradalgra8088
    @bradalgra8088 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great history of the Mite Richard!

  • @wdreece8859
    @wdreece8859 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have a family member who owns a Mooney MC20. Very awesome plane.

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo 9 месяцев назад +2

    I never knew about the tail fin trick

  • @jcflindsay
    @jcflindsay 10 месяцев назад +5

    With all the horror stories, I'm terrified of learning to fly but this makes me want to table my fear. Pretty awesome.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад +3

      You got this! Go for a discovery flight at your local flight school....you might get hooked though, lol.

    • @AC-jk8wq
      @AC-jk8wq 10 месяцев назад +2

      The thing that takes fear away…
      Knowledge.
      The more you learn about flying, and the plane you fly…. The more fun it gets!
      Experience.
      The more experience you gain flying around the country, in different weather, during different seasons…
      The fear generally goes away pretty quickly…
      Then build on that knowledge and experience…
      Add night flying, and an instrument rating to really get the most out of your investment…
      😃
      Go Mooney!
      +1 for getting that first introductory flight…
      There are two possible outcomes…
      1) That was fun… glad I took that flight early on…
      2) Pure addiction… can’t wait for that next flight…!
      😃

    • @jcflindsay
      @jcflindsay 10 месяцев назад +1

      I'm not sure I could deal with confusing air traffic control comms and airport approaches 😮. "I'm comin' in hot! Roll the trucks!" LOL

    • @la_old_salt2241
      @la_old_salt2241 5 месяцев назад

      ​@jcflindsay They don't throw you off the pier and say sink or swim though JC. They walk you through it and you learn the controllers are there to help you as you learn. Have fun!

  • @paulg.yarger8797
    @paulg.yarger8797 10 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent Video Sir! Seems like there's always more too Learn! Amazing Man!!!

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад

      Thank you! That's 1/2 the journey for me, learning about it (I was blessed to gain some firsthand info from a former owner too)

  • @engineeringoyster6243
    @engineeringoyster6243 10 месяцев назад +2

    “Retractable gears . . .”
    Gear is ALWAYS singular.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад

      thanks for keeping me on my toes, will see if I clean up my voiceover a bit better next video...

  • @handy335
    @handy335 11 месяцев назад +19

    What a great presentation! Thank you! for many years, the "West Coast Mooney Mite Association's" annual fly-in was held at KPTV (Porterville, CA). It was a thrill to see so many Mites in one place!

  • @Knuck_Knucks
    @Knuck_Knucks 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this! 🐿

  • @skyhawkchad7817
    @skyhawkchad7817 10 месяцев назад +1

    Video of the orange Mooney mite at 4:05 was taken from my 150M over central Texas near lake Somerville. Good buddy of mine has it and it’s a cool little plane.

  • @redfire122
    @redfire122 10 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome video. Learned a lot!

  • @FoxMacLeod2501
    @FoxMacLeod2501 10 месяцев назад +2

    It's just "landing gear." Never "landing gears." "Gear" = equipment/hardware. "Gears" = two or more toothed cogs.
    For example: a pickup truck may have five forward gears, and one reverse gear. Contained within components such as the transmission, 4WD transfer case, and axle housings, there are various types of gears; involute helical-cut & spur gears, ring gears, pinion gears, & bevel gears, among others.
    Inside the passenger compartment, the truck may be packed with a variety of hunting, fishing, and camping gear, in preparation for an upcoming trip. Collectively, it's a collection of gear. Each person will be bringing their own gear. If the door comes open on the highway, some of their gear will fall out.
    The truck's owner installed additional, heavy-duty off-road gear, such as mud tires, a winch system, roof-mounted flood lights, and taller suspension.
    Just as there are no hunting gears, camping gears, SCUBA diving gears, or safety gears, no aircraft possess "landing gears."
    I don't blame you; English doesn't make a ton of sense, and to make it even more difficult to get right, our abysmal schools are no longer providing students with even adequate language education.

  • @av8tore71
    @av8tore71 10 месяцев назад +2

    I have a 1965 M20C my grandfather bought brand new. After my grandfather died the plane went to my dad and now I have it. I just hung a O360-A1D straight from Lycoming (this is the planes 3rd engine) and only has 2670 total time on the air frame

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад

      No f-in way! A 360? Isn't it extremely nose-heavy now? And what are the performance numbers?

    • @Skyking6976
      @Skyking6976 10 месяцев назад

      Nice…I owed a C that was manufactured in the mid 60’s. I remember seeing the original sticker and it was around $17,000. I paid mid-40’s for the thing around 2002. Tricked it out with an S-TEC autopilot and Garmin 430.

    • @AC-jk8wq
      @AC-jk8wq 4 месяца назад

      @@aircraftadventures-vids The O360 is the standard entry level Mooney engine…. 180hp
      And all the fun that comes with it!
      The heavier engines are IO550s that first showed up on the Mooney Missile… an M20J that was born with an IO360….
      😃

  • @Imnotplayinganymore
    @Imnotplayinganymore 10 месяцев назад +1

    The gear retract lever was up when the gear was down and vis-a-versa which led to some confusion. My dad was checking out an instructor in his Moony. My dad put the gear down, then the instructor put it up, thinking he was putting it down. The belly landing did very little damage and dad said it was a very smooth, but loud landing lol. They jacked the plane up, installed a borrowed prop and flew it home.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yikes! That's one way to find out.

    • @AC-jk8wq
      @AC-jk8wq 4 месяца назад

      Flying a retractable is a study of how well your brain is working, under various conditions…
      Most days… you probably wouldn’t ever make the mistake…
      Then there are the odd days… tired, sick, heading to a pressing meeting, hungry, dehydrated…. (The set-up)
      First landing attempt results in a go-around… (too high or too fast)
      Clean the aircraft up for a second attempt….
      The second attempt…
      The pilot remembers the GUMPS checks from the previous attempt….
      everything was done already….
      Except the gear!
      The first time it comes to mind…. Is the loud crunching sound of sheet metal being ground down.
      And the incredibly short landing distance of about 200’.
      Always look for the green light on final approach, or check the gear indicator on the floor…
      Green light… I’m good to land!
      😃

  • @alurbanec714
    @alurbanec714 10 месяцев назад +1

    As a fledgling pilot in 1969 I got the opportunity to fly a Mite. I lived it then and still do. It is a pilots airplane if there ever was one. It sure ignored Newton's law on gravity as it wanted to fly.

    • @airplanegeorge
      @airplanegeorge 9 месяцев назад

      I always liked the ercoupe too, except for the rudder problem, they did put peddles in some of them.

  • @brealistic3542
    @brealistic3542 10 месяцев назад +1

    Moony is a classic

  • @legalmexican
    @legalmexican 10 месяцев назад +1

    Kerrville, Texas, not Kerryville. FYI.

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 10 месяцев назад +1

    Cute little machine,that always triggers "I want!" when I see one. The biggest drawback is that it's a certified aircraft, hence subject to FAA maintenance rules. (Fine for A&Ps, though.)

  • @savagecub
    @savagecub 11 месяцев назад +3

    It’s Kerrville, Texas not kerryville !

  • @bpd231martinko9
    @bpd231martinko9 10 месяцев назад +2

    I noticed that one or two of the airplanes in the video looked very similar to an Ercoupe. A close friend of mine had one (Steve KIsh from Coopersburg Pa., I mention his name because he was very involved in the Ercoupe owners club for many years before his death in 2011 and thought that some of you Ercoupe owners out there would recognize his name) I spent a lot of time flying with Steve. Any way the question I have for you guys and gals out there in aviation land is : Did Mr. Mooney have anything to do with the design of the Ercoupe? Just curious...

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад +2

      I can’t answer your question directly but…there was the Mooney Cadet which was based on the ercouple, so yes i guess

    • @AC-jk8wq
      @AC-jk8wq 4 месяца назад +1

      Hey!
      I have an answer for you…
      At one point in history… Mooney owned the air coupe company…
      The twin tail Ercoupe became a single Mooney tailed Ercoupe….
      M10 is a single seat Mite
      M18 is the two seat Mooney based on the air coupe lineage…
      Mooney’s intention for the M18 was to fill the gap between training and flying a high performance retractable M20…. Known as the Cadet as referenced above.
      The Cadet maintained the more docile training friendly wing design of the Ercoupe.
      Go AircraftAdventures!
      😃

    • @bpd231martinko9
      @bpd231martinko9 4 месяца назад

      Thanks for the info.!

  • @MrGuzmanra
    @MrGuzmanra 10 месяцев назад +1

    I was always curious about the tail's shape.

  • @mygremlin1
    @mygremlin1 10 месяцев назад +2

    Correction, NOT Kerryville Kerrville, TX I live here.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад +1

      I know, been told. I don't know why I thought there's a "y" in there.

  • @davidduganne5939
    @davidduganne5939 10 месяцев назад +1

    Mooney also sold the Mite as the "Wee Scotsman"--a marketing effort to promote its efficiency and frugal consumption of fuel. The tail had a plaid color scheme. The original M20 was referred to as a "Scotsman"--and it truly was an enlarged Mite, even having a control stick in lieu of a wheel.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад +1

      I recall reading about that funny name. Didn't know the M20 had a stick! They should have stuck with that, lol

    • @davidduganne5939
      @davidduganne5939 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@aircraftadventures-vids Al Mooney's papers are archived in the library at Univ of Texas/Dallas. They have an inboard profile engineering drawing that shows the stick control, and the original 145 hp 6 cyl Continental engine! I seem to recall the aft fuselage was a wood "cone" as well, just like the Mite.(this configuration was the prototype only, not production models) Ralph Harmon, who designed the Beech Bonanza, was later hired by the Mooney factory (after Al was gone) and he spearheaded the change to a metal wing on the M20.

    • @AC-jk8wq
      @AC-jk8wq 4 месяца назад

      @@davidduganne5939 interesting details!

    • @AC-jk8wq
      @AC-jk8wq 4 месяца назад +1

      The stick didn’t make it into production…
      The first four seat Mooney was the M20 and started life with only 150hp.
      The first update became the M20A and got the 180hp engine. It was the last Mooney with wood wings and tail.
      The next update was the M20B…. All aluminum.
      Where the stick did make it into future designs… they were models designed to compete for being Air Force trainers…
      😃

  • @kentshaffer3298
    @kentshaffer3298 10 месяцев назад +1

    Kerrville, Texas not Kerryville, Texas

  • @yukon4511
    @yukon4511 10 месяцев назад +1

    Kerrville, Tx

  • @alanhernandez7275
    @alanhernandez7275 10 месяцев назад +1

    Just so people know, the Mooney plant is located in Kerrville, TX North of San Antonio. Not (Kerryville). No such town, Kerryville, exists in Texas.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад

      I know, I've been pummeled in the comments because of this, I honestly thought there was a "y". I better get the town name right on my upcoming video! (Tecumseh, WI)

  • @marka8947
    @marka8947 10 месяцев назад +1

    And a total pain in the ass to work on.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад +1

      Sorry to hear that. But many happy mooney pilots will thank you for your service 👍

    • @AC-jk8wq
      @AC-jk8wq 4 месяца назад

      The Mooney cowling is tight for aerodynamic reasons….
      But, compared to a modern automobile…. It isn’t very tight at all, anymore. 😃

  • @dinofx35
    @dinofx35 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm pretty sure it's called a Johnson rod

    • @AC-jk8wq
      @AC-jk8wq 4 месяца назад

      Mooney pilots call it a Johnson bar. Taken from the steam train lexicon. 😃

  • @владимирвойтенко-к6и
    @владимирвойтенко-к6и 10 месяцев назад +1

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @paulp7365
    @paulp7365 10 месяцев назад +3

    Crosleys were pronounced like "Crawsley". Also, the plant was moved to Kerrville, TX in the Texas Hill Country. There is no Kerryville in Texas. Research is key when you do an informational video.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад

      I know, I've been whipped 20x because of my extraneous "y". lesson learned...

  • @tomlovejoy9899
    @tomlovejoy9899 10 месяцев назад +1

    It's craws-ly.

  • @sblack48
    @sblack48 10 месяцев назад +1

    The only reason for the fin design was style. The technical explanation here is nonsense. Cessnas have aft swept tails and they are every bit as stable at low speed as any mooney. Just look at the MASSIVE gap between the rudder and the fin. You can’t design a fin with a rudder gap like that and claim that you are concerned about efficiency. It’s simply there to differentiate Mooneys in the market place.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад

      I read another angle that the fin was designed as such a it used the same jigs as the stabilizers, therefore saving time and money in production.

  • @jeffcramer6722
    @jeffcramer6722 10 месяцев назад +1

    Kerrville pronounced ker-vil not kerryville

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад

      I've got the whole population of Kerrville after my head in the comments, lol

  • @txaviator9634
    @txaviator9634 10 месяцев назад

    I like the video but don’t remember giving permission to use the video of my mooney mite.

  • @beekangkang7150
    @beekangkang7150 10 месяцев назад +1

    With landing gear , the insurance goes up to at least twice,

  • @AirstripBum
    @AirstripBum 10 месяцев назад +2

    10:00 That was totally unnecessary. Was a great video up till that point.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад

      Sorry you felt that, I thought it was a funny quote

    • @AirstripBum
      @AirstripBum 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@aircraftadventures-vidsI'm sorry too. It's just using God's name as a cuss word really hurts the speaker of it even if they don't know it. Just lookin' out for ya. :)

  • @waltermengden8927
    @waltermengden8927 11 месяцев назад +21

    Enjoyed this - the rudder design was to improve the rudder effectiveness / safety during slow flight and stalls. One correction - the Mooney factory is in Kerrville, TX. They don’t produce aircraft anymore but they do produce parts.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад +3

      I read other accounts that the rudder was designed as such as somehow it lowered production costs, was quicker to fabricate. I like the aerodynamic version better. 😂. Yes on Kerrville, not sure why in my mind it had a "y". Now I know...

    • @marktaylor8659
      @marktaylor8659 10 месяцев назад +1

      As a resident of Kerrville, I still see Mooneys flying frequently from the airport. The distinctive tail is the giveaway.

  • @charlesschneiter5159
    @charlesschneiter5159 11 месяцев назад +14

    Aaahhh... that dreaded gear handle 😯. As a very young pilot I flew a Mooney M 20 C with the same design. My first few patterns were akin to a dolphin's swim 🙃 as I inadvertently pulled or pushed at the yoke while trying to get this darn lever to latch properly. Ah those were the times. Thanks for this history lesson!

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад +2

      I read many accounts on how pilots had a tough time with the handle and getting it to lock in place (not just Mites but any Mooney).

  • @JD96893
    @JD96893 11 месяцев назад +40

    What an amazing engineer. We need someone like him to make aviation great again. Edit: I wonder if this aircraft could be reinvented and sold as a cheap light sport aircraft.

    • @TheJustinJ
      @TheJustinJ 11 месяцев назад +16

      A Continental O-200-D is $40,000. Glass Avionics, GPS, plus Radio and ADSB $10,000. Prop, gear, hardware. Another $5,000. Now for the construction materials in pre-punched kit form. $25,000. Total. $80,000. Cheap, yes?
      If you count 1,000 man-hours of qualified aircraft factory workers at $40/hr plus payroll taxes and benefits totaling $55/hr. Is another $55,000. Add cost of building and operating a small factory add another $5 Million, divided by total production of say 500 aircraft. This alone adds $100,000 to the cost.
      Now you're at 80 + 55 + 100 = $235,000 plus another $50,000 for product liability insurance for each item sold because lawsuits are each $1M losses as soon as the letter arrives. Just in legal defense, not including fines.
      Now, multiply 285,000 x 1.25 for a fair profit margin that can endure some slow times, and you're at $365,200. Will you sell 500 at this price? Probably not. Not right away, maybe over 10 or 20 years.
      This is the problem. Experimental / Homebuilt and Kits get you into the air in a new plane for under $100K unless you count your time as valuable Then closer to 120-150k.

    • @SoloRenegade
      @SoloRenegade 10 месяцев назад +5

      You don't need a Continental. you can get Multiple 80hp engines for $12k-$15k. you don't need ADS-B. $5k firewall forward misc is nonsense. And 80HP would be 15HP more.
      $20-$25k is not unreasonable for a KIT, but plans built would be much cheaper.
      $12k (engine) + $5k (prop, avionics, firewall forward) + $20k (kit) = $37k, which is comparable to a light single seat plane I am currently building. Cheaper if plans built.
      Being made of wood, the plane could be even cheaper.

    • @m39fan
      @m39fan 10 месяцев назад +3

      It would have to be enlarged quite a bit to sell in quantity. These are too small for 3/4 of the population to be as comfortable as they demand to be. They are TINY.

    • @SoloRenegade
      @SoloRenegade 10 месяцев назад +11

      @@m39fan obesity has always been a barrier to entry to aviation.

    • @bravocharlie639
      @bravocharlie639 10 месяцев назад +3

      People are taller now. That's the growth hormones, fed to cows, then to us.
      Older ships like the USS Constitution or similar Era rebuilt to spec are eye opening.

  • @rockyvillarreal3119
    @rockyvillarreal3119 10 месяцев назад +5

    I loved flying the Mooney Mite thanks for the memories. (My yellow Mite at the 2:53 minute )

  • @freedomforever6718
    @freedomforever6718 11 месяцев назад +7

    To feel like a bird. And fly like one too!
    Excellent presentation. Thanks.

  • @albertogarciaarango2411
    @albertogarciaarango2411 4 месяца назад +3

    UNFFORGETABLE THIS NICE PLANE

  • @br4nd0nh347
    @br4nd0nh347 10 месяцев назад +5

    Been thinking about getting a Mooney as my first plane. This video makes it higher on the list.

    • @AC-jk8wq
      @AC-jk8wq 4 месяца назад

      Mooney’s make great first planes…
      And wonderful forever planes….
      😃

  • @selfairadventures8291
    @selfairadventures8291 10 месяцев назад +2

    If only those donuts were cheap today. My M20J requires 11 of them if you replace them all -- they now cost over $200 each! Ridiculous for a rubber puck!

  • @fatbikejamie
    @fatbikejamie 10 месяцев назад +4

    AFAIK the Mite was the only certified retractable that didnt require a backup system for the gear operation. I'd love to have one!

  • @davidroberts828
    @davidroberts828 10 месяцев назад +2

    The air surfaces were parallel to the air flow to reduce drag, not for looks. Al would be rolling in his grave.

  • @wernerschulte6245
    @wernerschulte6245 10 месяцев назад +3

    Oh thank you, that was great !! Thank you for not playing music in the background and thank you for speaking clearly and not that fast. As a german guy it is not that easy to understand everything. This video is the first one which explains the tail rudder very well. Looking strange the forward faced rudder does not only operate optimal at low speeds and high angles of attack but also avoids addidionally nose up torque due to the vertical position at this situation. Other rudders backwards tiltet can give a lot of elevator force which is unliked at critical flight situations. I am convinced if Al Mooney were still alive the company would still exist.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад +1

      Not so sure of that, Al left Mooney back in the 60s and had nothing to do with whatever came after it.

  • @jimanderson1355
    @jimanderson1355 10 месяцев назад +2

    Crosley is pronounced “Craws Lee”. Mooney moved to Kerrville, TX, not Kerryville.

  • @tinolino58
    @tinolino58 9 месяцев назад +1

    Up to the Lean Machine Mooneys where allways sold for to little. It seams that only bad sales people joined the company. They where afraid to ask enough!

  • @keithjurena9319
    @keithjurena9319 11 месяцев назад +3

    Mooney moved to Kerrville..well, Louis Shriner Field which is south of Kerrville.
    I had relatives work at the factory.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  11 месяцев назад +1

      Sorry for butchering the name! I could swear there was a Y in there, lol.

  • @larrysouthern5098
    @larrysouthern5098 9 месяцев назад +2

    What a shame we can"t have an airplane like this today...with composite and electronics.. wow!!!

    • @craigwall9536
      @craigwall9536 6 месяцев назад

      Well, you can. The Mite plans were sold to homebuilders at one point. Mostly peoplr wanted them to duplicate the landing gear, so if you canvas the KR-2 builders you might scare up a
      set.

  • @prop_thunder_therealone
    @prop_thunder_therealone 10 месяцев назад +2

    this inspired me to make my own mooney in a game called roblox, i named it Mooney M51 because it reminded me of a P51H

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  9 месяцев назад

      There are some real-world planes that literally look like they were designed in Roblox (look up a design called the "GafHawk")

    • @AC-jk8wq
      @AC-jk8wq 4 месяца назад

      There is a mechanical drawing on the internet….
      Overlaying the two airplanes on top of each other…. P51 and Mooney…
      They have SO much in common as far as dimensions go…. Especially the laminar wing design…
      The only thing really different…. The P51 has a really extra long nose to hide all of the extra cylinders!
      😃

  • @larryweitzman5163
    @larryweitzman5163 10 месяцев назад +3

    I noticed that some already corrected Kerryville to Kerrville, TX, but what I didn't see was the fact that all three Mooney tail surfaces are interchangeable. Yes, the vertical stab is the same as each horizontal stab. Same for the Aerostar, and maybe the Aero Commander (also a Ted Smith design). Ted Smith also designed the A-20 Havoc, the little known DC-5 (the first one became the personal aircraft of Bill Boeing named "Rover") and the A/B-26 Invader. Now you know where the Aero Commander design comes from.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад

      You know, I always thought the original Aero Commander straight-tail looked exactly like the Invader tail. Glad I’m not the only one 👍

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад

      And I’ve been properly flogged about the name Kerrville which i mispronounced 😂

    • @larryweitzman5163
      @larryweitzman5163 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@aircraftadventures-vids Yes Ted Smith worked for Ed Heinemann Chief Doug designer, but Smith did much of his magic. Look at all four of Ted Smith designs (A-20, DC-5, A-26 and the Aero Commander and a little bit of the Aerostar), they all have his stamp. The Invader had a laminar flow wing.

  • @davidkreimer2970
    @davidkreimer2970 Месяц назад +1

    My first airplane mentor told me something important about the Mite not mentioned in the video. Namely, that the battery was placed on a slider, such that cruising trim was done by sliding the battery aft, as needed. This is important for max cruise speed as it unloads the tail downforce to zero, omitting the drag produced by typical up elevator. This is no small matter

  • @Workerbee-zy5nx
    @Workerbee-zy5nx 10 месяцев назад +1

    The Moony Might work. Wasn't Mr.Moony on the Lucy show? Gail Gordon?

  • @khublieoldschoolgamer5737
    @khublieoldschoolgamer5737 10 месяцев назад +3

    My uncle would fly his Mooney from George Town and Cairns to my home town in central Qld Australia. Flew with him back to Cairns and George Town many times. Some of the most vivid and exciting memories I have from my youth.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад +1

      glad you experienced it!

    • @captainhuspower5723
      @captainhuspower5723 10 месяцев назад +1

      Your uncle you referred to wouldn’t by any chance have been Ron WEGNER a very good friend and an excellent pilot as well as being an electrical genius who operated the Georgetown power station for many years and also an Electrical Inspector in Far North Queensland.

    • @arthurpearson3407
      @arthurpearson3407 10 месяцев назад +1

      The flight school I learned at in the early 60s got a Mite that was a hit with pilots. As a 16 yr old I loved flying it and running circles around the trainers of that day and early 172s. 130 on 65 hp. A real treat.

    • @khublieoldschoolgamer5737
      @khublieoldschoolgamer5737 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@captainhuspower5723 yes he was, he was killed in a car accident, head on with a car carrier a few years back. What a tragic end to a wonderful man. I am Maureen and Rons nephew, Maureen is my father's sister. Love them both very much.

    • @khublieoldschoolgamer5737
      @khublieoldschoolgamer5737 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@captainhuspower5723 the last time I saw him he flew his kit plane down to us and I had to help him work on it at the local airport. Losing oil pressure, he was running a custom VW motor I believe.

  • @donlawrence1428
    @donlawrence1428 11 месяцев назад +3

    I did not know this airplane. A nifty little bird!

  • @chriscusick6890
    @chriscusick6890 10 месяцев назад +2

    What an excellent video!! What an excellent little aircraft and a designer ahead of his time.

  • @kenprice1961
    @kenprice1961 10 месяцев назад +3

    The vertical stabilizer is NOT "backwards." It's STRAIGHT, but looks like it is. The straight design reduces parasitic drag.

    • @EllipsisAircraft
      @EllipsisAircraft 6 месяцев назад

      The vertical stabilizer is swept forward. It is a tapered planform with a straight leading-edge. Therefore, the 1/4 chord line sweeps forward. It does little for drag. Swept leading edges on surfaces can cause span-wise flow, which trips laminar boundary layer to turbulent, reducing laminar flow and increasing drag. But this is not an issue on this small of a tail, low Reynolds number, with little sweep. In fact, by sweeping the Vertical stabilizers aerodynamic center forward, it has a shorter moment arm. Necessitating a larger tail that creates more drag.
      Aircraft designs are tradeoffs. And based on a thorough investigation of previous historical designs; most designers have no idea what they are doing.

  • @jnhumble
    @jnhumble 11 месяцев назад +3

    Well told, especially for non-native English speakers. An example for all!

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  11 месяцев назад +1

      Lol, I’m american. Better get to work on my english 😂😂😂

    • @jnhumble
      @jnhumble 10 месяцев назад +1

      Sorry -vids: I meant that ALTHOUGH BEING A NON-NATIVE SPEAKER MYSELF I could easily follow and enjoy your narrative 😏 Dutch is my mother tongue. QED!

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад +1

      Ah ok, my bad! Very kind words, thank you. I am very self-conscious of my voice and need lots of coffee to watch my own videos so I don't go to sleep. 😂 Am working on getting better..

  • @jimchandler6744
    @jimchandler6744 9 месяцев назад +1

    The Mooney factory was at KERRVILLE, TX, not Kerryville.

  • @bobjoatmon1993
    @bobjoatmon1993 11 месяцев назад +2

    The plane I always wanted to own but never found one for sale when I had a pilots license

  • @excellenceinanimation960
    @excellenceinanimation960 3 месяца назад +1

    There’s an old one at the local airport! I want it!

  • @xpump876
    @xpump876 5 месяцев назад +1

    I wish for a Mooney mite. I'd gladly pay the 4k$!

  • @clintonsmith9931
    @clintonsmith9931 10 месяцев назад +2

    In the50 had uncle bought and repaired Mooney Mite while in army, he was a prisoner of war in WWII.
    Landed it twice forgetting to crank up gear.
    Just busted prop.
    My 6 foot 3 inch brother flew it to California to sell. Flew from Post, Texas .
    Said never again.

    • @AC-jk8wq
      @AC-jk8wq 4 месяца назад

      Kinda like riding a motorcycle that distance….
      Even driving a car that distance isn’t for everyone…
      😃

  • @johnt6213
    @johnt6213 10 месяцев назад +1

    Kerrville, Tx.

  • @xrrider650
    @xrrider650 10 месяцев назад +1

    Kerrville, TX

  • @normanfawley7379
    @normanfawley7379 9 месяцев назад +1

    Good interesting documentary,I enjoyed that !

  • @spingebill8551
    @spingebill8551 10 месяцев назад +1

    4:58 so technically this can be called a swing wing aircraft?

  • @privatepilot4064
    @privatepilot4064 9 месяцев назад +2

    I’ve always absolutely loved Mooneys!

  • @otiebrown9999
    @otiebrown9999 10 месяцев назад +2

    I was lucky to fly one!

  • @Flies2FLL
    @Flies2FLL 10 месяцев назад +2

    The only Mooney I have ever flown was the Mooney that they marketed in 1989 to flight schools, N900AT. I was an instructor at FlightSafety Academy at the time, and Mooney brought the plane to the school to sell it to us. I was one of the instructors chosen to fly it. It was indeed fast! We had Piper Arrow IV's at the time with the T-tail as advanced instrument instructional planes. I flew from Vero Beach to Melbourne and flew an ILS in it, and then the instructor showed me how the air brakes that come out of the wings allowed very high descent rates! It was a small tight plane. I'm 6'1 and 150 pounds, and I fit in it with no problems.
    FlightSafety Academy wound up buying four of these for advanced instrument trainers, since our Arrow IV's ("Sky Pig") were high time and ready for retirement.

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад

      Lucky students!

    • @Skyking6976
      @Skyking6976 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah…AT for advanced trainer. I recall they had a “barber pole” painted tail. Was a test pilot for Mooney before it shut down in ‘08. Miss Mikey and the gang at Kerrville. Not Kerryville. Great video. New flew a Mooney Mite but always wanted to.

  • @dandunlap8638
    @dandunlap8638 9 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve never heard anyone refer to landing gear as gear(s)

  • @davidfw190
    @davidfw190 11 месяцев назад +2

    I loved flying the mite,great little airplane

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  11 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! If there's any left in a couple years, would love to try one myself. My dad flew them in the 50s also.

  • @highrafterranch1982
    @highrafterranch1982 9 месяцев назад +1

    Grew up on a ranch about 5 miles from the factory…. My bedroom on top of a hill faced the factory and at night you could see their lights and if the wind was right you could hear them testing engines… fastest single engine production plane for many years…. Literally sports car of the sky

  • @Fidd88-mc4sz
    @Fidd88-mc4sz 10 месяцев назад +1

    The DeHavilland Mosquito employed a similar system of rubber blocks to do away with the need for oleos and and the weight they incurred. The actual reason this was done however was reduce the need for precision engineering.

  • @hertzair1186
    @hertzair1186 10 месяцев назад +1

    I remember as a child I the 60’s reading an old 1950’s era encyclopedia aviation section that had a photo of the Mooney Mite…with the caption saying “it is safe at low speed”

  • @spency787
    @spency787 10 месяцев назад +1

    7:18 now that is a lightweight gear leg, particularly with one main bolt and three nuts missing! 🤣

  • @immikeurnot
    @immikeurnot 10 месяцев назад +1

    There's a name for the "lever that wags back and forth." They're called a wigwag.

  • @cartmanrlsusall
    @cartmanrlsusall 9 месяцев назад +1

    Small but definitely not tiny

  • @rbrtjbarber
    @rbrtjbarber 10 месяцев назад +1

    There's an example on display at the Kansas Aviation Museum in Wichita, KS.

  • @alpinebravo1484
    @alpinebravo1484 10 месяцев назад +1

    No good on bush strip's to close to the ground . Went into a puddle which hid a deep hole, and bent the prop

  • @descendantofphineas7785
    @descendantofphineas7785 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have over 300 hrs in the 201, love the mooneys.

  • @N57RU
    @N57RU 10 месяцев назад +1

    Kerrville, not Kerryville..

  • @velv33ta31
    @velv33ta31 10 месяцев назад +1

    no way you have a yt channel now

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад

      For a few years, but had not been doing anything with it till recently.

  • @plywoodcarjohnson5412
    @plywoodcarjohnson5412 9 месяцев назад

    Targeting a very small niche. While: " aiming for massproduction."

  • @CrotalusHH
    @CrotalusHH 10 месяцев назад +1

    I learned to fly the 201 and T231. Small cabins, but fast and fun to fly.

  • @MrShaneSunshine
    @MrShaneSunshine 11 месяцев назад +1

    Loosing the tail and landing??? Unbelievable! "Johnson" bar...."johnson" is a euphamism! Tubular chromolly front section is cool. Nice plane. Nosewheel retract is a nice trick too. Linkages like on the big ones.

  • @chrismoody1342
    @chrismoody1342 10 месяцев назад +1

    In my teen years my father owned two different Mooney’s. So I got a soft spot for them.

  • @merrickmoriel8878
    @merrickmoriel8878 10 месяцев назад +1

    They have a Mooney Mite at wings over the Rockies museum.

  • @brydenquirk1176
    @brydenquirk1176 10 месяцев назад +1

    Lived to tell the tail😅

  • @Theoriginalbubbafett
    @Theoriginalbubbafett 10 месяцев назад +2

    Fantastic video! Keep up the great work!

  • @MishMashMoto
    @MishMashMoto 10 месяцев назад +1

    I owned and flew a Culver Cadet. It was an extremely good flying airplane. Working the gear is a little tricky when your by yourself (it’s a manual ratchet type wheel).

    • @aircraftadventures-vids
      @aircraftadventures-vids  10 месяцев назад +1

      Before I researched the topic I used to think the Cadet was a drone that was converted to passenger plane, lol. (was the other way around). They are cool little planes, especially considering they predate WWII.

    • @MishMashMoto
      @MishMashMoto 10 месяцев назад

      @@aircraftadventures-vids It really is a joy to fly. Very robust all wood contruction also. Mine was converted with a C-90 from a Cessna 140 and did about 140mph. Only thing to note is that the pitch control (up & down) is very sensitive at cruise. A little elevator stick movement goes a long way in this airplane. Some owners have had a glue joint issue on the left side of the fuselage where the horizontal stabilizer attaches also so that’s a key area to inspect IMO if anyone gets the chance to fly or purchase one. Fly safe everyone.

  • @apennameandthata2017
    @apennameandthata2017 10 месяцев назад

    Their f ed looking tail probably is the reason they went broke, IMHO.

  • @fredbrillo1849
    @fredbrillo1849 8 месяцев назад

    I owned N4153 back in the early 1970s.