EXPLICIT Biblical Proof God Does NOT Pray to or Call the Son “Lord” in Hebrews

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  • Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
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    Biblical Christians have had to deal with a lot of strange arguments from Trinitarians over the centuries. One of the most bizarre and blasphemous of these involves Hebrews Chapter 1, where many Trinitarians including heretic ‪@shamounian‬ Sam Shamoun claim God the Father calls the Son "Lord" in Hebrews 1:10.
    Not only is this teaching incorrect by a simple evaluation of who is the "he says" in Hebrews 1 in each verse where it applies from the quoted Old Testament texts, but Jesus' explicit teaching in Matthew 22:45, Mark 12:37, and Luke 20:44 proves that one who calls another "Lord" cannot be that one's son. It therefore also disproves the heretical argument that God is speaking to (or, worse, praying to) the Son in Hebrews 1:10, and it shows clearly that Trinitarians who continue to use this argument deny Jesus' teaching.
    For a further refutation of ‪@shamounian‬ Sam Shamoun's and other Trinitarians false teachings about Hebrews 1:10-12, see "Refuting @Shamounian Sam Shamoun on Hebrews 1:10-12 & Psalm 102:25-27" (06/25/2024) here: • Refuting @Shamounian S...
    Watch Greg Stafford’s complete response to Dr. White on the subject of Psalm 102:25-27 and Hebrews 1:10-12 here: • Trinitarian Apologists...
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    To watch the video, “Why Trinitarians Fail to Recognize the 'One God' of the Bible” (January 22, 2022), see here: • Why Trinitarians Fail ...
    To watch the video, “Why Trinitarians Fail to Understand ‘Begotten,’ ‘Created,’ and ‘Make’ in the Bible” (November 14, 2021), see here: • Why Trinitarians Fail ...
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Комментарии • 40

  • @St.Augustine4006
    @St.Augustine4006 Месяц назад +2

    Paul tells us that Jesus “was descended from David according to the flesh” (Rom. 1:3).

    • @CWJahTube
      @CWJahTube  Месяц назад

      @@St.Augustine4006 I know that, but not at the time of Psalm 110:1 when David called him "Lord."

  • @hteicavlidelin
    @hteicavlidelin Месяц назад +3

    Jesus did not say this to say that he wasn't the Lord of David, or that he wasn't the son of David. He's both. That question was rhetorical

    • @CWJahTube
      @CWJahTube  Месяц назад

      @hteicavlidelin Nope. Jesus explicitly used the fact David called him "Lord" to prove they are wrong he's David's son when that was said to him. Just read the context. It's all about him being GOD'S Son, not David's, which is exactly what he was at the time the words of Psalm 110:1 were spoken. Sorry not sorry! You lose again!

    • @hteicavlidelin
      @hteicavlidelin Месяц назад +3

      @@CWJahTube So he's not the son of David? You're saying Jesus was denying himself as the son of David? You do know the implication right? Because son of David was the nickname for the messiah.
      Matthew called him the son of David (Matthew 1:1).
      Luke 1:32 says "...the throne of his father David,.."
      It is simply common sense at that time because everyone else also called him the son of David because that was the nickname for the messiah.
      Its not about winning or losing, your thoughts have been caged by the devil. It is about being true to the Word of God. Stop being arrogant and treat people as if they're always trying to one up you on a debate. I'm telling you these things so your mind can be opened and see Christ, who is the *EXACT* likeness of God.

    • @CWJahTube
      @CWJahTube  Месяц назад +3

      @hteicavlidelin That's not what I said in the video or in any of my comments. Re-read my last reply to you, or any other replies to this lie I've posted here today, and apologize for stupidity and for lying.

  • @St.Augustine4006
    @St.Augustine4006 Месяц назад +1

    Mark 10:47
    And when he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to cry out and say, "Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!"

    • @CWJahTube
      @CWJahTube  Месяц назад

      @@St.Augustine4006 I know that. I know that...

  • @St.Augustine4006
    @St.Augustine4006 Месяц назад +1

    You missed the two prior verses where the Father says about Jesus calling him God. "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

    • @CWJahTube
      @CWJahTube  Месяц назад

      @St.Augustine4006 No I didn't and no he doesn't: ruclips.net/video/ZgORC0HuJKY/видео.htmlsi=BefItVhvn2FWZXu8

  • @mattiwallin5857
    @mattiwallin5857 Месяц назад +1

    Jesus is not the Son of God. He IS God!

    • @CWJahTube
      @CWJahTube  Месяц назад +1

      @mattiwallin5857 Nope. - John 3:16.

    • @michaelhaigh9182
      @michaelhaigh9182 Месяц назад +1

      Matt you don’t no the scriptures Jesus is the son of God ?

    • @mirekmazur3822
      @mirekmazur3822 28 дней назад +1

      Quote : _who is speaking in Hebrews 1:10_
      David says these words to the Most High God.
      In Hebrews 1:6-12 various psalms are quoted. If any Bible translator suggests through their translation that God is speaking in these psalms, they are lying (consciously or unconsciously). How do we know? *God is not the narrator in these psalms. He does not speak at all in any of these psalms.* So you can't get it out of your translation that this is God speaking because it's not true. The lie is a very clever grammatical trick in the Greek. Even looking at the Greek text, you can miss it.

    • @michaelhaigh9182
      @michaelhaigh9182 28 дней назад

      @@mirekmazur3822 there it is correct as Jehovah used his first born son to create but the son had a beginning that’s why he’s called the first born of all creation so to get to the verse is revelation 3 v 14 we’re it says Jesus talking he the beginning of the creation by God kings James vershion so not my words Jesus own words again jehovah is unbegotton but Jesus is beggoton so there the answer

  • @Understandmed8
    @Understandmed8 Месяц назад +1

    I have a question, who is speaking in Hebrews 1:10? I’m confused now.

    • @CWJahTube
      @CWJahTube  Месяц назад +1

      @@Understandmed8 Same person who's speaking in Psalm 102.

    • @Understandmed8
      @Understandmed8 Месяц назад +2

      @@CWJahTube omg I think I understand now. So in Hebrews 1:10 it’s not the father speaking, but the writer in psalms 102 speaking about the father?

    • @CWJahTube
      @CWJahTube  Месяц назад +3

      @@Understandmed8 Exactly.

    • @Understandmed8
      @Understandmed8 Месяц назад

      @@CWJahTube thank you for helping me understand, Greg.

    • @CWJahTube
      @CWJahTube  Месяц назад

      @jonathonderrico4894 No it doesn't: ruclips.net/video/ZgORC0HuJKY/видео.htmlsi=NkPFT4Db_IliyC2Q

  • @St.Augustine4006
    @St.Augustine4006 Месяц назад

    How can he be davids son? Because jesus as God incarted into a body whose genetics are the descendents of David.....

    • @CWJahTube
      @CWJahTube  Месяц назад

      @@St.Augustine4006 That's later. I'm talking about when David called him Lord in Psalm 110:1 BEFORE he became a man and also David's son (Hebrews 2:9). That is Jesus' point numb nuts.

  • @JensThomasNepper
    @JensThomasNepper Месяц назад +1

    Hey Greg.. Sam is gone, and has been for a long time.

    • @JudeOne3Four
      @JudeOne3Four Месяц назад +1

      Yes, Sam is gone and also those who believe that Jesus was an angel. 🤦‍♀

    • @JensThomasNepper
      @JensThomasNepper Месяц назад

      ​@@JudeOne3Fourwho believes that?

    • @JudeOne3Four
      @JudeOne3Four 29 дней назад

      @@JensThomasNepper Greg believes that. Greg is correct about the pagan trinity doctrine but he is dead wrong about Jesus pre-existed as Michael the Archangel. Greg did an interview with a person named Faithful Theology and there Greg said the most ridiculous things, trying to force his occult teaching into the Scriptures.

    • @JensThomasNepper
      @JensThomasNepper 29 дней назад

      ​​@@JudeOne3Fourfirst of all, I think you should be more respectful (treat others the way you want to be treated)
      Second. Greg can belive what he wants,and i can belive what i want.😊

    • @JudeOne3Four
      @JudeOne3Four 28 дней назад

      @@JensThomasNepper Cry me a river man. I expose these false teachers and counterfeit christians every chance I get. Second >>> NOBODY gets to believe what they want to believe. You have to believe what God, Jesus Christ and the Apostles want you to believe!!!
      Jeremiah 14:14 Then the Lord SAID unto me, The prophets prophesy LIES IN MY NAME: *I SENT THEM NOT,* NEITHER have I commanded them, NEITHER SPAKE *unto them:* they prophesy unto you A FALSE *vision and divination, and a thing of nought,* and THE DECEIT OF THEIR HEART.

  • @mattiwallin5857
    @mattiwallin5857 Месяц назад

    Isn't the New International version for Jehovas Witnesses?

    • @CWJahTube
      @CWJahTube  Месяц назад

      @@mattiwallin5857 No. It's for pagan Trinitarians.

    • @haroldgape8414
      @haroldgape8414 29 дней назад

      😂​@@CWJahTube

  • @yahuhallah1259
    @yahuhallah1259 Месяц назад +1

    God praying to the son?? 😳😳 This is one the worst teachings I heard. This is blasphemy. Sam is going too far with his false teachings.

    • @CWJahTube
      @CWJahTube  Месяц назад

      @@yahuhallah1259 Gone!

    • @JudeOne3Four
      @JudeOne3Four Месяц назад

      Yeah, the hypocrisy of Sam is unlimited. Sam accuses and laughing at the muslims when allah is praying on muhammad but then Sam makes a 360 teaching that God is praying to Jesus? This crazy demon is such an obvious false prophet but he still has many blind and deluded followers. We see prophecy playing out right before our eyes

  • @StevenChristopherDeHaven
    @StevenChristopherDeHaven Месяц назад

    Excellent point!

  • @Betsy29
    @Betsy29 Месяц назад

    Liars exposed.....great point!