Quite an adventure Stephen. And what a great story to be able to include in a 4K review video. I can't imagine stories like that have been included very often before on RUclips. John.
Yes, that trailer scan looks marvellous! I'd love to talk to both of you about this scan and others (I've just added Alien to my channel, in case you're interested) - please drop me a line at jonnoff@googlemail.com if you have a chance.
Appreciate this review👏 I went to see The Dark Knight at the IMAX in Waterloo when it first came out and it was breathtaking. It was also the only movie I’ve been to where the audience gave a standing ovation at the end, which was quite something. The IMAX experience was extraordinary and this 4K disc and audio is as close as we will ever get to that. The audio mix in the 4K disc is wonderful and I cannot fault the image quality
Well when they do a re-release of the second and third films at the Waterloo IMAX Darth, I'll see you there and even if it's just the pair of us at the end, we'll give them a standing ovation! John.
This channel has such class. Can't say I agree with you on the merits of most films, as you seem to like a lot of movies I don't, but your breakdowns of the technical aspects are just so engrossing and enjoyably presented. Look forward to all of them, weather I like the actual film or not.
Saw The Dark Knight Rises at the Waterloo IMAX, the only time I’ve ever been, and I still remember it vividly, emblazoned in my visual memory. Living in rural Scotland has its benefits but the lack of an IMAX cinema is not one of them.
I believe there used to be a genuine IMAX in Glasgow but they gave up on the format thinking the low quality 4K video projector would be an upgrade. I think there were two others in Britain that made the same mistake but apparently there are plans to re-open Bradford with genuine IMAX shortly. The BFI IMAX are going to get the only 15/70 print in the UK for the DUNE Sequel but that won't look quite as good as a genuine 15/70 film as this one was shot entirely on 4K video so the print is a blow-up from that. It should give a more natural presentation than any cinema that video projects it though. John.
They're such a solid trilogy & their transfers to 4K are equally as solid. My order of preference are in their release order - The first was a game changer in the Superhero genre that unfortunately turned into what Marvel is today, but it makes this Batman saga more special imo. & good on you for helping out other RUclipsrs 👍
Thank you Nick. Three very good films indeed and I suspect Christopher Nolan is responsible for making IMAX mainstream. Just a shame that not all IMAX cinemas are really IMAX. The same thing happened with Cinerama and where is that today? John.
I think THE DARK KNIGHT RISES is the best of the three films but I do need to watch them all again sometime to check my first time appraisal. I think shooting so much more genuine IMAX 70mm for the third film helped me to enjoy it even more than I would have done so that's probably a big factor for me. John.
He's a lovely lad Mark - actually both those young chaps are lovely lads - and it will be good if they are encouraged to keep going for many years as they'll get better and better as their experience increases. There's nothing like having to think about a film for a review to make you see things in a film that you never would have noticed before. John.
@@andreasoberg2021 Thank you Andreas. Leon and Clark are both doing very well with Clark having only started up recently so it will be good if he gets a bit of a boost. John.
Sorry, I thought I was being asked about The Shining! Please excuse all the claptrap I just typed up. Yes, The Dark Knight series are three excellent films. That wasn't the case with the original Batman films which only had one great film as far as I am concerned. Now then, if you want to discuss the ending of The Shining!!!! John.
Nolan filming things practically is really something. This was a must have trilogy for me as soon as I got a 4K projector. Great review as always John. Look forward to whatever you've got next.
Despite the money that was thrown at these films, they still had to work out how to do it all and I think they did better than anyone could have hoped. What a series of achievements these films were and an advert to modern superhero film makers today... do them practically!!! John.
@@moviecollector5920 I agree. The more they do practically the better it looks. Nolan is great at this. Unfortunately I think a lot of blockbuster movies will include a heavy use of CGI. Understandable I some instances, but not all!
@@Darrenlovesmovies I think we have to accept that cinema audiences today are predominantly made up of younger patrons and that market has to be catered for. Computer generated imagery in general is what they want to see I think. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Perhaps so John and I personally don't mind some CGI in films... just enhances everything in my opinion when they try and do it practically, even if only partly
Another brilliant video John. Well done. I can remember taking days off work to go and see The Dark Knight at the old IMAX at millennium point in Birmingham which isn't there anymore sadly and The Dark Knight Rises at Londons BFI IMAX with my family on there release days. Two of the best cinematic experiences I've ever had. Batman Begins I saw on release day after sitting my last ever exam before I left school so all 3 films are very nostalgic for me. Keep up the great work 👍
I should have joined you for the screening of 'Rises' at the Waterloo IMAX Ben. Maybe one day we'll get some sort of 70mm festival in central London and we can all book into the Travelodge on the corner of Shaftesbury Avenue/High Holborn and Drury Lane for a few days movie goggling on the best formats available to man today. Maybe October will see the new Bond in IMAX and Death on the Nile at the Odeon in 70mm. John.
@@moviecollector5920 sounds great to me! They regularly show The Dark Knight trilogy at the Waterloo (or at least have done in previous years) so keep your eyes peeled. There well worth seeing in the format
Excellent review - most helpful - have had the Blue Rays for years but will pick up the 4K now I understand why. Your videos are really informative. Thanks.
I hope you like 'em as much as I did James. I'd avoided them for years after the sequels to the 1989 Batman film turned it all into a bit of a farce. The Nolan Dark Knight films were a revelation and even better to see them in these amazing 4K presentations. John.
Great video. I really like your take on trilogy. Chris Nolan would appreciate your understanding of the film formats too. Thanks for a making such interesting and fun RUclips content.
I never particularly liked wearing ties to work but fun ones like this, Spider-Man, Star Trek and Star Wars made wearing a tie more appealing even if my bosses tended to frown a little. John.
Great review once again John! Glad to see you enjoyed all three of these films so much. If you enjoyed the imax sequences in these films, you should definitely check out the remastered version of Batman V Superman in 4K, and Zack Snyder’s Justice League. Both feature the original IMAX aspect ratios for home video and weren’t cropped, which makes it very interesting.
Yes, I think I'd better give it a while longer before I finally look at Batman vs. Superman. I didn't like Man of Steel but I can see why it was made the way it was and it's great that people are making films for youngsters like that. Unfortunately, my preference is for the original comic style and films where you can see what is actually happening: that's not meant to be a criticism but I stopped playing computer games 30 years ago and Man of Steel was so fast it looked to me like it was aimed at gamers. If that film and his later films get youngsters into cinemas I'm all for it. John.
I know the difference between watching this trilogy and marvel films is ridiculous! Whilst there are mostly great SFX some are just laughably noticeable green screen in marvel
@@agoogle6454 I can just imagine the review of Black Panther in 4K where the final act has 2 Killmonger and BP dolls punching each other against a green screen. Why doesn’t Disney render the SFX in 4K anyway, it’s not like they can’t afford it? I know they filmed on Arri Alexa minis which are capable of 4K and are what were used in Joker which looks excellent so I have no idea why they don’t release the films as shot.
@@agoogle6454 because it’s cheaper.😢. Batman v superman was one laughable climax. And the new dc and marvel movies are not really overwelming because you know they’re fake.
It's also the processing time of producing the cartoon parts in 4K. It takes four times as long apparently and that would undoubtedly have ramifications on the scheduled release dates. But as for the special effects in these three Dark Knight films, that's the way to do it! Practical effects that are then drawn over in the computer afterwards. It's the best solution if it can be afforded. John.
Thank you Jordan. Today I'm putting a review of the 4K of The Shining together but it may take more than just today as these videos often take several days to complete. John.
Hello John, hope you are well today. My super 8 projector should be in the mail in around 7 days, I have came across another gem on ebay, it was close encounters of the third kind, its a 400 ft reel. it was at a descent price so I purchased it. fun thing is I can now compare the 4K disc to the super 8 film, cant wait! Clark.
I have the same 400ft reel Clark but yours may well come in a different box to mine as mine is the early release and it was soon transposed into a plastic clamshell case. You'll probably find the colour has faded a bit but some of them have survived well. It's panned and scanned so doesn't quite have the impact of the 'Scope frame but it's a good cut down and good fun. Great to be able to project it BIG! I have been considering as Close Encounters as my next 4K review so this is quite a coincidence. John.
@@moviecollector5920 what a coincidence haha! the faded colour and scratches on the projected image make it feel like real cinema, great fun. I would love to see your review on close encounters, sounds like fun. thanks! Clark.
Could be the translation from whichever camera I shot any 35mm scenes with. I actually don't remember much about this video now apart from my conclusion was that the third film in the series was the best in terms of the actual film and the image quality. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I meant watching it myself on my tv the 35 mm has somewhat a bronzy look to it , more out of focus , might be intentional by Nolan
@@fmulder1989 Aha, I see. I expect the 35mm general release prints would have been graded to look very similar to what we see on these 4K discs but aberrations do occur at times.
Hi sir just for record the team supervised by Steve begg shot almost all vfx elements and miniatures on 35mm/8p vistavision on BATMAN BEGINS and Super35mm was used sparringly just for above 120fps High speed shots.
Brilliant information Saliha, thank you. Hopefully what you've said can actually be comprehended by many who have been following my channel for a while now. Thank you again. John.
Excellent john glad you enjoyed the trilogy Christopher Nolan is one of my favorites don’t know if you seen the prestige if you have not definitely put it on your shortlist I have it on Blu-ray and I can’t wait to get it on 4K one of my favorite films it has an incredible cast including the late great David Bowie. Really nice of you helping the young man out already looking forward to the next one have a great one👍
@@moviecollector5920 Fantastic john i’ll try to get a copy myself it was available here in the states in the Nolan box set and now it can be got individually but unfortunately it’s extremely expensive for instants I just picked up about two weeks ago the Batman trilogy on 4K for $35.99 us and the prestige is $39.99 crazy but that’s how it goes. Looking forward to talking with you about the prestige hoping the 4K will be well done but the movie itself will be interesting to talk aboutHave a good day🙂🙂👍
The Shining is the next plan. That means a look at a few other Stephen King book adaptations can also be mentioned. I also plan to say what my favourite of those adaptations is and I would be surprised if anyone would ever guess it. John.
They are pretty terrific Batman films Stephen but even if you don't particularly care for them, the image quality and the sound are special enough. The third film has so much that was shot in 70mm IMAX that it's a bit of a treasure really. John.
I think you'll have a great time with them Tom. For me the best was saved for last but that was helped by having more genuine IMAX shots in it than the second film. The first film is 35mm only if I remember correctly but it still looks great. John.
Wow how I have not come across your channel before! I’ve just subscribed as a good friend Leon mentioned you before me on his 1k vid. Your knowledge for Batman is amazing. I used to collect the Batman comics when I was younger. I really wish i kept them. I’m just about to watch your Apocalypse now vid with John and Leon now. Keep up the fab work.😀👍
@@moviecollector5920 I feel exactly the same John. I don’t really like the newer Batman movies. Michael Keaton was the best Batman along with Jack Nicholson as the joker. What did you think of the joker movie? Thank you for replying too. Take care.
@@carlinio9 Shhhhh, but I haven't seen Joker. It really didn't look like my sort of thing but I suspect I'll take a look when I spot it flying around going "cheap, cheap"! John.
The Dark Knight Rises is my favourite of the trilogy as well, though of course I like all three films. I have the 4K Nolan Collection, but not a great setup - visual or audio - to show off the quality these copies have to offer. You've earned yourself a new subscriber - not my first video of yours, mind you!
Thank you Benjamin. I don't think you need to spend too much to really enjoy modern Blu-ray and 4K discs but a decent pair of speakers for stereo sound can make a big difference. I know we can tend to get a bit obsessive over having the latest thing but I tend to watch anything on our television screen with just a stereo amplifier driving a pair of speakers we've had for over 25 years and they still sound perfect. I have loads of JBL Control 1G speakers on other systems and they are tiny so a pair of those and a stereo amplifier would only cost about £150 in total. Then again, you might already have something better than that so just ignore me! The Dark Knight films in 4K should look beautiful on anything. Particularly the sequences shot on 70mm IMAX film. John.
If you are good at something, never do it for free.. But you just are giving out gold for free John. Thanx as always, for the great work! Best fron Norway.
There is a little coming back owing to people watching a few of the adverts Jørn so at least the discs I've been purchasing to do the reviews are being paid for now... well, maybe not all but we're getting there. We watched the Blu-ray of The Snowman last night. Really good and more so because we felt like we were enjoying Norway in winter. It's boiling here right now! John.
Hay bud just wanted to say that I came across one of your review videos not too long ago, can't remember witch one off the top of my head. But anyway wanted to say that very much enjoyed watching your video and watched a couple more, and after 2 or 3 videos I hit that subscribe button.....I really liked the review you did on tenet and love the film....thank you
Tenet is just brilliant. It took some working out but I think that was part of its appeal. Thank you for taking the time to boost my morale and it's good to have you here. John.
Excellent! I’ve just been to hmv to pick up this trilogy on your recommendation… I’ll be watching the 1st one tonight, keep the Brilliant videos coming buddy! Regards 🙂
@@inkermanplatoon2210 Well I hope you enjoy them as much as we did Inkerman. You're in for a really good time this evening and whenever you get around to watching the two sequels. Always good to know when someone has supported HMV because without those shops on major high streets it's hard to imagine why I'd ever bother going in!!! John.
I was lucky to get that Elephant Man 4K as it had been sat on the shelf in the Plymouth branch of HMV for about six months at the time I purchased it and sold out everywhere else. What a great film. I do have a review of it up here somewhere now that I think about it. John.
I got this boxset also and I like all three films, the dark knight rises I was lucky enough to see at IMAX south bank. What a treat that was. I'm with on the Tim Burton film John, for it has that gothic comic book feel about it. Good review as always. Keep em coming.
Good morning Stephen. It seems that there's roughly an even split between all three films with regards to which we think is the best. But it seems some people were turned off the third film because of a critic who detailed all the plot holes which proliferate throughout all three films. I don't care because they're comic books brought to life and although they lack the 'gothic' look of the 1989 film, they're so spectacular you can't help but to like them. John.
Can’t believe I still need to get these on 4K. Done some ‘ steelbook vs steelbook ‘ videos on my channel. History of the Punisher. 4K opening of almost famous Cine edition. Etc etc.
All three are impressive to look at AJ but the third film is extra special as about one-third of it was shot in 70mm IMAX. Don't know if there was ever a steelbook for you to include in a steelbook vs. steelbook review in the future though but maybe you could do a steelbook vs. cardbook just for this one!!! John.
@@moviecollector5920 - So the 4K does change ratio as it goes through. I may have to get this set now they are great films. I know people take issue with the third. I don’t. As I knew that they couldn’t do much more after the Dark Knight. They kind of boxed themselves in - a victim of that films success ! And I may well look at doing that ( your suggestion ) 👍👍
@@ajsmovieplace Yes, the IMAX sequences see a change from the 'Scope ratio to 1.78:1 (16x9) and it works surprisingly well. Quite a few 4K discs have had this change of format now and it is not distracting at all. Going to 1.43:1 may be a little distracting but apparently it's handled quite well in Batman vs Superman. One day I'm sure I'll take a look at that film even though it doesn't really look exactly like my cup of tea. John.
That's good. I wouldn't be bothered by it but a mass market is what the film has to appeal to and most wouldn't understand the cut to IMAX nor even know what it was or that it looked any better. John.
I love that Nolan uses imax I just wish the 35mm was open matt instead of anamorphic 2.39. It's almost like Nolan wants to make sure we know when he switches back and forth . Great review!
Wow, thank you so so very much for the shoutout, I have murder on the orient express on 4K coming in a few days so I will be sure to review that, I tried out DaVinci resolve and I think after 2 hours of tutorials, I have the hang of it. Thank you soo soo much for the shoutout, it really means a lot! I only own the dark knight on 4K but I will definitely buy the rest of the series to review in the future! thank you so soo much and hope you have an amazing rest of your day. Clark.
I'm glad you like the little plug for your channel Clark. Murder on the Orient Express is a bit like Apocalypse Now in that it's not really a film that a younger audience is likely to fully appreciate but if the image quality is anywhere near as good on your system as it is on mine then you won't care if you don't particularly like the film because it's simply a marvel to look at. The cast is unparalleled, an acting masterclass and a classic Agatha Christie story in a confined environment in which you get to know who all the characters are. The follow up 'Death on the Nile' is out here in October and there are going to be 70mm prints so I'll be heading to London. If you can find a cinema that is going to screen it in 70mm it could be a good bit of research for you to see what you think of the best film format. If you can get into the projection booth too then you'll be in for a real treat so never be embarrassed to ask if you can go and see the film projection equipment at work. Some cinemas are pleased that people are interested so it is possible to get into there on occasion, particularly if the projectionist appreciates the attention. Black Magic Design Davinci Resolve is full of things that can catch you out so it might mean some disappointments and occasions when you have to start all over again but the results can be as good as anything you'll ever see. The main thing to beware of is that you need a super computer to run the latest version and the second thing to beware of is that you must set the correct frame rate before you start editing because it can't be changed after you start and if you do get it wrong the end product will have image stagger due to frames being dropped. In other words, shoot in NTSC at 23.97 frames per second (or PAL at 25fps or NTSC at 29.97fps) and ensure the Davinci Resolve file is set to the same frame rate before doing anything. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Love your youtube channel :) You have so much knowledge, just curious and how you don't mind me asking but How old are you? I am 28 and love movies , I try to go to the cinema at least 3 times a year
@@moviecollector5920 I have already been looking at the website for my theatre that I saw 2001 on 70mm and they dont have any plans for death of a nile yet but since they love showing 70mm film, it is almost certain that they will show it. I cant wait to review orient express on 4K and then eventually death of a nile compared to the 70mm screening (although comparing 70mm screenings to a 4K disc is like comparing a pinch of dirt to a fancy car). I have already suffered the consequences of not having the right frame rate on davinci resolve haha, had to delete a lot of work but it was all fun. the next time there is a 70mm screening at my local film theatre I will definitely ask if I could see the projectionist booth, its a dream job of mine to be a projectionist and I am currently in the search for a 35mm projector. Clark.
@@michaelhawkins7389 Well I'm a lot older than you Michael but I pretty much gave up on cinema in the early 2000s. 35mm print quality had taken a bit of a hit towards the end of the 90s and then that deterioration continued until video projection was foisted on the premiere theatres to help convince an unsuspecting public that 'digital' was superior. It was a terrible time for cinema and it wasn't helped by all the low quality computer effects being added to films. I tend to only go to the cinema now when I can get to one of the few real IMAX cinemas and I know they're screening a real [reeel] film but video projection has improved vastly since those bad times. 'Death on the Nile' is getting a 70mm release in October though so I'll be able to go back to one of the premiere cinemas in Leicester Square when that one's out. John.
Anyone else have audio problems on batman begins with audio going really low and getting loud again? Especially in the scene with Ducard talking about fighting 6 men at 17:21 it's very low audio then 17:25 it gets normal loud volume again.
I'd avoided this films until now and the badgering I got from film fans after my 1989 Batman review. A little badgering worked out well this time around! John.
I agree with you. The Dark Knight Rises is the best of the DK trilogy. And I much prefer the 1989 Tim Burton film. That was such a groundbreaking movie because it introduced us to modern era superhero films.
I suppose Superman The Movie got there the year before but the 1989 Batman was a different kind of film to Superman. Both are great films that have stood the test of time and I think Christopher Nolan's films will too. Sam Raimi's Spider-man films also but that's about it in terms of the superhero films I've seen. John.
Fantastic review, John. Very thoughtful that you're helping some other fellows out by giving them a shout! Would love to see your review on Full Metal Jacket and The Shining. Heck, add Dr. Strangelove to the list as well since it just came out!
Thank you Danny. I may have to take a look at Dr. Strangelove. I didn't think The Shining looked brilliant but others certainly did so I'll have to take another look sometime. John.
The Dark Knight was an obsession of mine in the summer 2008. I went to an IMAX preview about 6 months earlier which contained the heist sequence and it blew my mind. Once I watched the film in it’s entirety, I couldn’t believe a performance could be given as good as Heath Ledger’s Joker - and I went to see a further 8 or 9 times - and probably around 4 times on imax at Printworks, Manchester... It captured my imagination and it also felt like I was watching Micheal Mann’s Heat... just absolutely incredible trilogy overall. Insanely high level filmmaking. Nolan also loved James Bon’s that much he put a Skiing sequence in Inception.
I remember Heath Ledger died before the film was out but I didn't mention that as I didn't want to put the video onto a bit of a downer. Best to just remember he gave a great performance in a great Batman film I think. I'd been put off Batman movies by then as the first four films descended into farce and I didn't think it was worth bothering any longer. These three were a nice surprise and I was finally ready to watch them. Not so with Batman vs. Superman though which will take a little longer for me to get up the enthusiasm for. John.
@@moviecollector5920 whilst I actually admire Man of Steel (nothing in compares to Superman 78’...), Batman vs Superman was a mixed to underwhelming bag of sequences. Ironically though, the Batman elements of the film are by far the best... it’s worth a watch for Batfleck (even I was cautious...). I actually don’t mind the Snyder trilogy - some great/ideas/visuals - but compared to Nolan’s trilogy? Not even in the same sport, let alone league... actually - I think you’ll hate it. Haha
@@ColonelSternlove One day I am going to have to give Batman vs Superman a go if only to see how the IMAX sequences are handled. I didn't like Man of Steel so my expectations are suitably lowered to the point that I might be pleasantly surprised. John.
@@moviecollector5920 IMAX sequences are brilliant and for all Snyder’s faults - he can frame a nice shot. Plus they look incredible on the 4K format. Man of steel for me was a good exploration of Clark Kent origins and I love the way they depicted him becoming superman - the last 40 min though was just too much fighting and not enough saving people (a problem throughout the trilogy)
@@ColonelSternlove I'll have to take another look at Man of Steel. I threw it in a cupboard somewhere so I'll have to dig it out. I know what you mean about IMAX sequences because even an average film can be something special if it's shot with any 70mm at all. John
The Dark Knight Trilogy is excellent. I have all three films on various home video formats. The 4K transfers are spectacular. Great review! Just came across your channel and have really been enjoying your content! I subscribed. I think The Dark Knight is the best of the three but I tend to think Batman Begins is almost just as good and consider it an underrated film. It took me a few tries to warm up to The Dark Knight Rises after seeing it in theaters but I now enjoy it almost as much as the other two.
I think our opinions of these films will change each time we view them simply because they're all so good. It's possible I had got into the films and by the third I was ready to love them, hence why it was by far the best instalment for me. Next time around that may change. Good to have you here Michael so welcome! John.
Dark Knight for me. I heard Nolan re-rendered the effect shots at 4K (originally 2k), for the 4K release. Usually they don't do that, so that's another reason why the effect look better too. Another great review John, keep em coming!
Soon there will be computer processing that will be able to cope with rendering larger file sizes easily and all this 2K nonsense will be a thing of the past. But it's been a difficult time for those of us who love the cinema because the downturn in picture quality that occurred towards the end of the 1990s is still not fully sorted yet. Thank Gawd for people like Christopher Nolan and Kenneth Branagh who have the power to insist on 70mm and 15/70 IMAX. John.
Another great video, John. The Dark Knight for me was the first time I saw 70mm Imax in person and it was at the Imax in London's Waterloo...That first shot where you are flying towards the building where the bank robbers fire the hook out the window blew my mind, and it was the same for everyone as you heard an audible gasp from everyone in the theatre as it appeared on the screen..by the end of that opening bank robbery scene I just couldn't believe what I'd just seen. I wanted it played again and again as did many others too. I did end up going back to see the film again not long after😁😁
And since Christopher Nolan's film there have been many others to make the most of IMAX... but most of them have been by Nolan himself. Interstellar was probably the most awe inspiring cinematic experience I've ever had and I want to have it again. That too was on the 90 foot wide screen at Waterloo, a genuine IMAX theatre. Doesn't always run film though so you need to check. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yes, I agree about the film at that theatre...I've seen other movies like Transformers(fake imax) and The Polar Express 3D(fake imax) there and nothing compares to the real thing.
I hope you enjoy them as much as we did James. A clear difference between the Blu-rays and 4Ks here on our system and those IMAX sequences, particular in the last film, really do make this pack something special. John.
The influence of Michael Mann's Heat on The Dark Knight is enormous, so much so that I consider it an unofficial soft remake. Heat is another gorgeous looking film that I've heard is getting a 4K release soon, though the 4K scan (1080p Blu-Ray) they did a few years ago is already quite stunning. I was lucky enough to catch the new print at a local cinema. The sound alone was worth the price of admission.
Well that's another one to look forward to then. I saw Heat in a local cinema in Dillon, Colorado on first release and haven't seen it since. If I remember correctly it ran about 3 hours so that's going to be good value. John.
Absolutely The Dark Knight Rises is the best of the three - the main problem with it I think are the poorly directed crowd fight scenes (though all of the cops being out of action should have had a better set up too). A lot of comic fans had a hard time with Bruce Wayne becoming a recluse and other behaviour they deemed un-Batmanlike (and disappointed that Bane wasn't as cartoonish as he is in the comic), but they forget that Nolan's Batman was one that, if not exactly grounded in reality, had at least a couple of toes on the ground (what's that? you don't believe a city would accept being locked down for a mere 5 months?). Great vid as always, thanks.
That's a good summary Adam. I had assumed that the Batman comics had changed Bruce Wayne's character and the films were using the new character. But I think it's a credit to the film makers that they took their own path. What works in a book or a comic doesn't necessarily work so well in a film and this version of Batman did work on film so that's good enough for me. John.
great review.i like all three movies .what drives me nuts is the aspect ratio change.i have a projector and a 21 by nine widescreen .so every time the ratio changes it over projects my screen. its a trend i dont like.they should sell seperate imax editions.so now i watch the dvds they are constant widescreen.but back to the movies.you are absolutly right about the third one. looking forward to the next review.
Mask your screen down to 1.78:1 next time and run the second and third films in that format. It's a shame to lose some of the size but it should mean it's not distracting. The alternative is to put deep black velvet masking top and bottom to mask the 1.78:1 sequences down to 2.40:1 but so much of the third film is in that taller format it would be a shame not to see it all. John.
Interesting, I too prefer Batman Begins to The Dark Knight. I recently rewatched Rises and loved it. Love your technical insights as well. You really are becoming our size wizard of films discussion. Thanks John. PS - we watched Mad Max Fury Road in 4K. Wow, the mirror is hanging in there 😆
I have got to get Mad Max Fury Road because so many people have told me it's a good 'un. But getting back to these Batman films - what a great surprise. I had avoided them because of the crap the original films had descended to. That's a little unfair but I really didn't want to see any more of them and then they started all over again. Thinking about it now, that was the only thing they could have done. You must have put that mirror back with No More Nails or something equally as strong for it to withstand a Mad Max film! John.
Quite a bit of No Time To Die is apparently shot on IMAX 70mm, I'm just really hoping they release physical prints of it! Saw Tenet last year at the BFI IMAX and it was mind blowing!
What we need is some sort of automation that can shift the masking so that it opens up and closes on the frame whenever a taller aspect ratio is displayed. Some sort of sensor device would do it but I've done everything with string and sticky tape so it would be a little expensive and a bit too advanced for my setup perhaps. John.
@@moviecollector5920 or just ad a 2.35:1 disc. We 4K customers should be given a premium option. But I guess the 4K digital version is an acceptable compromise for us with a 2.35:1 screen.
Hello John, hope your having a great day. I am commenting to inform you that I have purchased a super 8 projector, I have been searching for around a week and found a good one that works properly and has no problems with it. the model is a Chinon Sound 6100 Super 8mm Film Projector, its an auto thread which is helpful for my small knowledge haha. I do not currently own any super 8 films but I am keeping my eyes open on ebay for a good super 8 gem, like I said I saw the first couple reels of the exorcist and the other day I saw a original 1989 batman trailer on super 8. they both sold out in the first 3 days, so now that I have the main asset to project the film, all I need is an actual film. I will be over time collecting super 8 films and hopefully find one I can compare to the 4K and make a video like yours, thanks! Clark.
Chinon produced some really good Super 8 projectors. I have an SS1200 but I used it to death and although it still runs there are one or two issues with it so it's not one I use any longer except for the odd bit of nostalgia. Shame you didn't get that Batman trailer because I think that is the Derann Film Services print and that is where I got my 35mm Batman trailer of identical content from. It is therefore highly likely that my 35mm trailer was the master for the Super 8 release and I just happened to be there and spot it on the day they sold it off.... for £2. All Super 8 projectors are auto thread as far as I know. I've not seen one that isn't anyway. They have to be really because it's such a small gauge and would be a bit fiddly to manually thread up. Having said that, I have a standard 8mm projector that has to be threaded manually and it's all set up rather easily. Thanks to your input I think I've worked out the ending of The Shining so I might do a 'spoiler alert' at the end of the video and advise people to turn off now if they don't want to know before I discuss my/our interpretation of the ending. John.
@@moviecollector5920 sorry for my late reply, Can't wait for the shining 4K review from you. I am now really annoyed I didnt pick up the batman trailer but eventually I will pick up a very good film on super 8. Thank you for your quick reply. Clark.
Great review! Definitely a set I need to add to my collection. I'm currently saving up for the Lord of the Rings Extended Cut 4K set, at a whopping £75! I enjoy The Dark Knight Rises almost as much as the previous. I like that it has a slight David Lean epic feel to it. Perhaps it's not quite long enough to be considered a true Epic but it comes close. I wish we'd have seen more of Bruce surviving the pit and his journey back to Gotham. The plot feels a bit condensed despite the film being almost 3 hours, imo.
Yes, it's not made clear where Bruce Wayne is imprisoned (although it's fairly obvious it's in a distant country) and how he manages to get back again. But there are plenty of other quibbles if we allow ourselves to want to find all the plot holes in all three of these films. They're comic books brought to life so I'm quite happy to suspend reality for the duration. John.
Hello John, bought this boxset last year amongst my other 80 other 4K titles. Been watching the step-down Blu Ray as I only just got my Panasonic DP-UB820 player and hoping to get my 55" OLED in the next month or so. I cannot wait to watch my films in my converted spare room 'cinema room!' My favourite tech in Batman is the motorbike that has a back wheel that pivots at 90 degree angles, god I want one!! 🤣😂
@@moviecollector5920 Haha John we wouldnt be able to get more than 4 in there. Just been cruising over the Home Cinema Triangle, John (you), John (Mondo Vellocheck) and Leon (Talks Film). My first ports of call on all things film and cinema. My bank account thanks you for your recommendations!! 😂🤣😂
@@moviecollector5920 Hahaha its HMV and me being inebriated probably at weekends. It's like Christmas sometimes when parcels turn up midweek and you have no idea what they are!! 🤣😂
Yes, and they're perceptibly better. It might just be HDR again but they may have really looked sharper. I should have spent longer analyzing that but I was running out of time before a filming trip so had to get on with it. I shot this the night before heading off and put it all together during down times whilst away. John.
Great review John. I myself also prefer The Dark Knight Rises over TDK.. it combines all three films and ends nicely. TDK is a great film but it always feels like two or three films morphed into one in my opinion. So?. What's your theory of the end?. Does Alfred just picture Bruce Wayne outside in the cafe at the end or has Bruce finally found solice and killed off his alter ego so he could live his own life?.
My interpretation of the ending is that it's in Alfred's imagination. But it did leave open the possibility of a further film if someone wanted to put their feet to the fire and try to follow it. You'd have to be brave to want to do that if you ask me. I agree, it's all one long film. John.
Thank you Lee. If I can help others whom I enjoy watching myself then it's a joy to be able to do it. Let's see how the young man gets on now he will hopefully start to get an audience. John.
Reviews of 4k discs but the videos are in 1080p... Hmmmmmm Also what digital projector do you use when screening these discs at your home? I have been looking for a good 4k projector but they are either not great in quality or cost an arm and a leg
Well I do shoot the videos in 4K but there's more to it than compiling the finished product in 4K and slapping it up. The general rule of thumb is that there is no point in uploading a video in 4K unless it has HDR applied. There are exceptions where professional film makers have the best equipment and ensure the best image quality at the end of the process but with me just sitting in front of a camera and talking there really is no point as there would be no discernible difference between 2K and 4K. Where there will be a discernible difference is in the time it takes to upload the same video in 4K because I would have to compile it at a much higher bit rate to preserve the image quality. As it is on my fibre connection this one took about an hour to upload. In 4K it would take around 3 hours. The video projector I use is over 3 years old now but if you can find a second hand one that's got low hours then it's worth considering. It's an Optoma UHD550X and it was amazingly good value. I purchased it on the basis of the model that cost twice as much but I soon had this one set up to look even better than the demonstration we had with the more expensive machine. Optoma do offer a sub-£1k projector now and that would be worth looking at if my own is anything to go by. Amazing image quality... if you know how to set one up!!! John.
This was a great and informative video John. I wasn't really planning to pick the 4K's of this trilogy as I have the bluray set, but I think I might have to soon. Great work, your production value is stunning and the information within is very valuable. I aspire to make content as quality as this 😃👍
I watched some of your livestream with Keith last night Jason. I would have watched more but it was time for beddybies. Always entertaining and I must make the time to watch more of your videos. If you do get the Dark Knight films in 4K why not do a review and I'll point people to it. By the way, I saw when you said you were using sound out of your television and I realize funds aren't easy to come by but you don't have to spend a fortune on a good surround sound system these days. A stereo setup can work wonders but if you save up and get a fairly basic home cinema sound amplifier you can add speakers over a period of time. Richer sounds tend to start the amps at about £100 and speakers about £50 a pair. Tonight I expect we'll be watching one of the Jurassic World films which I don't expect much of but I got a double disc pack of both the films in 4K for £8.95 so I don't think I'll be too disappointed. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I appreciate the kind offer to help share my video if I did a review of the dark knight 4k trilogy; however I don't particular think my reviews are any good. I don't do reviews very often for that very reason. I'm more inclined to do different kind of videos such as my History of Critters , which I'm super proud of :) Thanks for the heads-up on a sound system route, definitely sounds like a plan. Thanks again :)
@@jasonbrettyt I need to look at your Critters video. I really like your ventriloquist Critter named Steve. Oh well, got to go, Leon's got a live stream right now with some old boffin as a special guest... oh, he's talking about Critter!!! John.
These were great but I am a bit of a Tim Burton fan and loved his versions as they were a mix of the old series and a modern dark canvass of the late 80's!! A great review and well done for helping the younglings John!
I too still think the most of the 1989 film. But that was the only one of the original series I liked so to have three great films in this series was a real surprise. John.
@@moviecollector5920 True, I only liked the 2 that Tim Burton did, the 3 that followed them were awful. Lets see what the new one is like when it releases!👍
i have the films on Super 8 Adam so it's unlikely I'll get the 4K discs any time soon. I can tell you that they look great on Super 8 with the third film looking the best! Actually I only have 1 and 3 (didn't like 2 at all) and the 4th film on Blu-ray which is also exceptionally good to look at and listen to. John.
Hello one quick question, what is the movie playing in the beginning of your videos? Anna and The King? I agree with you Batman begins is my favorite movie, with Dark Knight being my least favorite. For me nothing beats an origin story and a story about somebody being down at their lowest and rising up, facing, and beating their challenges, a la Rocky. As usual love your videos and your in depth knowledge, although all the aspect ratios are still driving me a little bit loopy! Something I need to study upon! Keep up the great work!
Aspect ratios do tend to drive people crackers at home but they are historical from the various cinema formats over the years. That is why cinemas have motorized masking to frame the relevant ratio about to his the screen. The masking changes should take place behind curtains but sadly curtains cost money and as few of us care much for showmanship any longer, curtains/tabs are going the way of the Dodo. I still set the masking to frame all the different aspect ratios, particularly when I'm screening a film print. It's a very short teaser trailer to Anna and the King which is on the front of the theatrical release print for Star Wars Episode 1 The Phantom Menace. Another one on there that shows up I think is The Beach. These were two of a bunch of coming soon films that hadn't then seen the light of day... only the light of a projector! Thank you again Santiago. John.
Great video, John! Did you notice any issues on the Batman Begins transfer with DNR? From what I’ve heard, when it looks good it looks good, but certain scenes sporadically throughout have excessive noise reduction processing applied that did not have this problem on the old Blu-Ray release.
I didn't see anything like that. I hope I'd have noticed if someone had messed around with a film transfer. Possibly what people have picked up is the switch from anamorphic 35mm to Super 35 which is lower quality. I was astounded by the picture quality on Batman Begins which I had to look up because it looked 70mm in places but wasn't. Dark Knight is even better and Dark Knight Rises is better still. An amazing set. John.
Picked up the set today from HMV (always! - not Amazon) just checked out the Bane vs Batman fight and this 4k just makes a great film and fight greater. Thanks again.
That third film is just about as perfect as you can see on video. I really should take another look and compare it more closely to Tenet and Murder on the Orient Express because I suspect it's up there with them. My next video will actually be an HMV tour James. The new shop in Newbury and it's going to be rather good I think. John.
Just to note, after you said about a Bond film in IMAX, that No Time To Die is shot in Nolan's preference of IMAX 70mm for the action and 70mm for the dialog scenes.
70mm IMAX makes a right old racket so dialogue scenes would require post-synching of the lines and that is rarely as good as capturing the words live. I suppose it's a compromise we just have to live with. John.
My favorite is Dark Knight Rises as well with Batman Begins coming in a close second and The Dark Knight a distant third. It was refreshing to hear someone else share that opinion because we are definitely in the minority, which is something we are all too frequently made aware of when discussing these films 😂 You definitely found yourself a new subscriber 👍
That was my thinking too, that Dark Knight was the runaway favourite, but the comments on here seem to contradict that as most prefer Dark Knight Rises with possibly Batman Begins in second place. What the actual truth is I don't know but it was surprising to find so many people do consider the films in the same order that I do. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I saw that you replied to me, but for some reason RUclips won’t let me see the reply in full using the app. I thought of responding to the portion I could read, but then it’d look like I was talking to myself 😂
@@irl-hdr4080 It looks like my reply has disappeared which has been occurring increasingly lately. I reply to people and then when I go into the total unread comments on this channel quite a few of them I've replied to have returned weeks after I'd actually typed a response. RUclips does seem to have some problems at times. But anyway, it is interesting how the people commenting on here do seem to overall favour the third film in the Dark Knight series. It may be because there are more true film aficionados on here or it could just be that those who agree with my sentiments are more likely to comment. I felt the third film was the best and the first film the second best but I may change my opinion on a second viewing of all three. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yeah RUclips’s algorithms deletes and blocks completely innocuous comments for the most random reasons. You definitely make a good point about birds of a feather flocking together. It logically plays a part in the comments. I doubt my opinion of the films will change, but it wouldn’t the first time that it has happened for me. I used to greatly prefer Aliens over Alien. Not sure when or why, but I eventually came to appreciate the original more and more till eventually preferring it over the sequel.
Another great review and I love the tie! On another note I checked out the Orient Express on UHD and I was a bit surprised that I thought the Bluray and the UHD was very similar. Both look great, but I struggled telling the difference on many shots (on a 55" OLED at close distance). This really surprised me since I know it was shot on very high quality film and it is one of your favorite UHD movies when it comes to image quality. Some movies like Jurrassic Park and 5th Element was far better on UHD than on Blueray. I will give it another shot and compare some more. Anyway thanks for another great video!
A few people have found that Murder on the Orient Express does not look as good as it should on their systems. I don't know if there's a single answer to this but I really need to give our regular advice in the videos to ensure that players and displays have any digital 'enhancements' switched off or minimized with 'Sharpen' being the prime candidate for messing up an image. Orient Express has exceptional HDR so maybe something is going wrong there. Often on my system the HDR is overblown and the picture is destroyed but if your Blu-ray looks almost identical to the 4K then HDR is not doing its job well at all. It was shot on 65mm film stock for 70mm release and as you can imagine, modern film stock means that this release is very fine grain and almost perfect to look at. I haven't yet seen another than can match it but maybe it just needs a bigger picture to fully capture how good it is. Any chance of getting a 4K projector demonstration nearby and taking that disc with you? I'd love to get to the bottom of this one Andreas. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thanks for the lengthy reply John. So the color and HDR works well and the movie looks good, it was mostly the sharpness that I was looking at. I expected it to be considerably sharper than the Blue-ray. I have a 55" quite modern OLED (a year old). I have it in Filmmaker mode so it has no extra sharpness added, no motion processing etc. I think both the Blue-ray and the UHD looks great, its just that they look very similar. I have been surprised by other movies like the 5th Element and Jurrassic Park looking good. Basically I thought the UHD version looked a bit less good than I expected and the Blue-ray looked much better than expected.
@@moviecollector5920 Another note. On my system HDR has never been overblown, however several movies I play are very dark. Mostly it is old Blu-rays so I need to fiddle a lot with the settings. I use Xbox X as my UHD player so maybe that has something to do with it. It almost seems as if the Blu-ray is interprered as HDR when its not so the brightest spot will be say 30% of the brightness that the TV can be displayed. With a few minutes of testing this can be fixed, but of course would be better if one did not have to do it. For this reason I actually try to replace most of my Blu-rays with UHD so that the luminance will be stable in the images. It seems like the players and TV struggle with dealing with both HDR and non-HDR material.
@@moviecollector5920 Yes, I think you could be right. Do not have access to another player, but I will consider it as an investment for the future. Thanks John
@@andreasoberg2021 I hope it works if you do buy a dedicated player. I have a couple of Panasonics and one of them was only about £100 more than three years ago so they're not a massive outlay I suppose. John.
6:25 I'm going to have to watch Batman Begins again with fresh eyes if you really feel that way, I haven't see it since it was in theaters. The Dark Knight is one of my favorite movies, I think it was the best movie of the 00s that was ever made.
It's been interesting to receive all the comments on this video William because I thought I'd get a lot of upset replies about stating my opinion that The Dark Knight was in third place but the opposite has been true (so far!) and many feel that The Dark Knight Rises is the best film with Batman Begins at number 2. I didn't really know Heath Ledger and did not see The Dark Knight at the cinema so perhaps I wasn't influenced by all the sudden media reports about his performance as the Joker immediately following his death. If I'd have been younger and had ventured to a cinema perhaps I'd have been more receptive to how good this film is but time had moved on and I was watching all three for the first time together and they had a different impression on my as a result. I expect I'll enjoy The Dark Knight more than I did the next time I see it and similarly perhaps you'll find you enjoy the other two films even more than you did the first time around. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I saw the Dark Knight in IMAX with my then High School girlfriend whos my wife now, she was head over heals in love with Heath Ledger and his death had upset her at the time so I remembered seeing that movie in the theaters with her very well, I have a very detailed memory of it, it was a early date for us so I think that was part of it, also the IMAX picture was incredible, like looking through I a gigantic window, I know that you won't argue that it isn't a damn good looking film.
@@Edward135i I think it's got two genuine IMAX sequences in it William but feel free to correct me if there are more than that. I can't recall how the rest of it was shot but for genuine IMAX prints it would have been struck from the original camera negative to make it look as good as it could to stand up to the rest of the print. Sounds to me like your cinema outing for The Dark Knight could be the most memorable you've ever had. The Dark Knight Rises had much more genuine IMAX in it so you may find you enjoy that even more the next time you see it, even on disc. John.
I don't do streaming. But the quality should be good - probably close to Blu-ray quality which is exceptional enough. But until a new codec comes along that successfully compresses a lot more than is available now there is no way a stream is going to match a 4K disc. Just look at the data throughput which is miniscule on the web by comparison to a disc. John.
Great video. I have to say for batman I enjoyed the films in order but picture quality it's the reverse but as you say it's a preference thing. I have to say it's been a busy week for me with watching films like logan in 4k and one I thought I would not like much but actually did which was "Mortal Engines" but I will keep coming back to your broadcasts as I learn so much. Excelsior :-)
Mondo Chelloveck Movies is a big proponent of Mortal Engines simply because the picture quality of the 4K is so good. I must purchase a copy and give it a look. I suspect it's shot on video though so I'll find plenty of faults because I'm like that!!! John.
Really enjoyed this video. Look forward to all of them. Now that I have upgraded my HT to 4k, Sony 77 inch A80J, look forward to picking up this set. My wife picked up the original Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory in 4k and I was not sure if it would be a good one and I feel like I have seen the movie too many times. However when we played it I was enamored with the entire film. It was like I had never really seen it before.
Willy Wonka is a very colourful film as I recall. I never liked it but it was made to look mesmerizing to children in cinemas and hence why the HDR discs have worked so well. I haven't seen the 4K disc but I can well imagine what it will look like... although not as good as the Dark Knight films methinks, particularly Dark Knight Rises with all that 70mm IMAX. John.
is it worth upgrading my blu rays also my steel book total recall 4k game today fab can you please do a review of David lynch's dune it's out by arrow in 4k in early August I preordered a deluxe steelbook can't wait to see it also the new one in the cinema
I don't think I'll take a look at Dune Mark but if enough people hassle me I'll probably concede. I saw it at the cinema and it's the only film I've ever fallen asleep in which isn't a great advertisement for it. No doubt I'd really enjoy it if I did watch it again today. The 4K discs in this Dark Knight set are perceptibly better than the Blu-rays but all our systems vary. I really need to start including a recommendation for everyone to ensure every digital 'enhancement' on their systems is off as these things can really mess with the image quality. 'Sharpen' is the worst offender but even so, all displays and player combinations are different and what looks good on one may only look average on another. The three films all looked first class on my system and got better with each film. Astounding quality. They looked sharper than the Blu-rays to me but it's mainly the enhanced colour and density provided by HDR that makes the difference. The Total Recall 4K release is excellent too... just like watching a 35mm print. John.
I have this 4K set and I love them. Especially The Joker and Bane in 4K. Just glorious. But I’m using the Xbox to play 4k discs. I’m unsure what player to buy. I hear the SONY UBP-X700B Smart 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player is excellent.
Because Panasonic managed to make standard Blu-ray work successfully in the early days when no one else could I stuck with them for UHD Blu-ray. When I purchase another player I plan to get the top of the line Panasonic for that reason. I'm sure all the makes are fine with 4K though but just make sure you get other outputs rather than just HDMI. John.
Great review.i haven't got any of these on 4k yet but was thinking about getting that Nolan 4k set on amazon,a good few of his films included in that set.does anyone know if the new Dune film is filmed in "proper" imax?
That might actually look rather good because video cameras now can be fabulous and a transfer to film will introduce that all important fine grain distinctive filmic look. Could be worth a trip to one of the few IMAX cinemas (Waterloo, Science Museum, Bradford, Manchester or Glasgow) to see it. Let's hope it's better than David Lynch's film of years ago which didn't play well at the time. John.
@@moviecollector5920 That's a really interesting observation I hadn't thought about. Joker and Roma, both shot Digitally, also had some 70mm screenings. As far as I'm aware Bradford and Manchester swopped their IMAX film projectors for Digital ones. I don't know about Glasgow, but I'm pretty sure I read that The BFI Waterloo and The Science Museum, London are the only IMAX Film Projectors left in the UK. Bit frustrating as The Science Museum and The Media Museum, Bradford are sisters, but the Media one doesn't present film (apart from 35mm, 70mm, and admittedly has the only Cinerama screen and three projector system outside of America. All Cinerama content now has to be stored Digitally, as the film reels have deteriorated).
@@davidjames579 There seem to be conflicting reports on the IMAX film projectors being replaced. I hope all of them have kept them but if not, let's hope the video quality is coming up to a similar standard. John.
Setting aside your infinite knowledge and passion you might be one of the most kind hearted film collector on RUclips. Loved that final part where you talked about other collectors! Take care!
Good morning Patrick. I'm sure I replied to your comment before but it's just reappeared in my list of comments I haven't responded to so I thought I ought to respond again just in case my previous reply didn't get through. Thank you for your kind words. Young Clark has done a 4K review of The Shining and I'm doing one too so maybe his channel will get a bit of a boost when we both finally upload them. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Hey! Yes I do remember your answer! It must have gotten deleted somehow! Oooh can’t wait! There is so much to say about The Shining that one could literally create an entire channel just on the different interpretations of it! Take care! Patrick
I think someone with influence must have done a review slagging off the third film and it's put a lot of people off because I think it's excellent. Yes, there are flaws but there are in all three as it's a comic! John.
You know, I find it difficult to pick a favourite from the three films. They are each tonally different and bring their own differences to the story. This boxset is a delight and I simply treat the three films as one 7 and a half hour movie 👍🏽
I think that's perfect summing up Coyley... they are one long movie. We watched one per night over three nights and after the first film we were really looking forward to getting into the cinema over the next two evenings. That's a blooming good sign if you ask me. John.
@@trevorml1362 It seems to be the most popular from the people who have commented on here. It has the biggest scale of the three films and has the best ending so that probably has a bearing. But next time a lot of us watch the trio we might have a different opinion. Although having said that, the IMAX 70mm ensures that last film is always going to be a little extra special even on our 4K home videos. John.
I ran the film yesterday and I need to check the disc on my other player as about 40 minutes in the image started to break up, the sound shortly after went off and finally the disc froze completely. A bit of a concern given how many 4K discs I've purchased in the past 18 months. I'll probably be a few days before I can record anything or have a review ready so don't wait for me. When I do get one done and up I'll include a link to your own and mention it and how mine came about as a result of you mentioning that you were about to review The Shining. First time I watched it I thought there were too many holes in it and I haven't changed my mind this time. Neither my wife nor I can fathom the ending exactly but perhaps we're not supposed to. My take on it is that Jack is a ghost and he's going through a loop whereby he experiences more or less the same thing over and over again but it still doesn't really make sense. John.
@@moviecollector5920 oh don't worry, a lot of 4K discs have a little screw-up every now and again. Arrow video makes a lot of mistakes. my theory about the end of the shining is that the hotel has eaten jack up and now jack is apart of the hotel now, the other people in the 4th of july picture are the other people who have been sucked up by the hotel. as funny as my theory sounds, thats what I think. the end of clockwork orange also has one of those twist endings. Thanks for the quick reply! Clark.
Batman begins was always my favourite John, I was very surprised when you quoted the viewing figures for it, I think it just has a better story than the other two
Both those 35mm films should be good on 4K because, let's face it, they always are. But if you want the best then keep an eye out for films released on 70mm or even IMAX 70mm (15/70). Even some Blu-ray discs if from a 65mm negative will look better than most 4K releases and a great example of this is 'Grand Prix' and 'How The West Was Won' with that second film being only one of two genuine Cinerama feature film releases. John.
Really interesting how you thought the third was the best. I remember being let down after seeing it at the cinema. I think I need to rewatch the trilogy in 4K. Great video.
My expectations had been lowered so it was something of a surprise. At the time you saw it you were likely hoping for more and perhaps that was the cause of your disappointment. Being interesting to find out what you think next time around as your expectations will not be what they were. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Love your youtube channel :) You have so much knowledge, just curious and how you don't mind me asking but How old are you? I am 28 and love movies :)
I would be interested to know how this compression affects a transfer on the kaleidescape service (Strato S). They say they use pretty much no compression at all but I find that hard to believe.
Thank you Brandon. I think the compression used is amazing. To go from over 1Gb per second to a 50Gb Blu-ray disc is quite unbelievable, particularly when you consider how good the finished products actually look. However, I believe 35mm film should be scanned at almost 6K to ensure every detail is fully captured so what would that mean for IMAX? 45K perhaps? Film - it's incredible. John.
@@andylikesstuffchannel It's quite nice here in Cornwall. Came through a torrential downpour heading back from the midlands yesterday evening and it seems that was widespread as Newbury in Berkshire had it a few hours later and it appears West London bore the brunt. But despite the extreme weather at time here's some good news - the coral bleaching in the northern half of the Great Barrier Reef was reported as having fully recovered by Sky News Australia about ten days ago. John.
Thanks for the shout-out John and much obliged again for the very kind loan of the '89 trailer!
Quite an adventure Stephen. And what a great story to be able to include in a 4K review video. I can't imagine stories like that have been included very often before on RUclips. John.
Yes, that trailer scan looks marvellous! I'd love to talk to both of you about this scan and others (I've just added Alien to my channel, in case you're interested) - please drop me a line at jonnoff@googlemail.com if you have a chance.
Appreciate this review👏 I went to see The Dark Knight at the IMAX in Waterloo when it first came out and it was breathtaking. It was also the only movie I’ve been to where the audience gave a standing ovation at the end, which was quite something. The IMAX experience was extraordinary and this 4K disc and audio is as close as we will ever get to that. The audio mix in the 4K disc is wonderful and I cannot fault the image quality
Well when they do a re-release of the second and third films at the Waterloo IMAX Darth, I'll see you there and even if it's just the pair of us at the end, we'll give them a standing ovation! John.
How stupid when people clap at the end of a movie....much less Stand up? Morons! What is Nolan in your graces and if so who cares
This channel has such class. Can't say I agree with you on the merits of most films, as you seem to like a lot of movies I don't, but your breakdowns of the technical aspects are just so engrossing and enjoyably presented. Look forward to all of them, weather I like the actual film or not.
You'll have to let me know some of your most favoured films Krommer and I'll see if I can take a closer look at one or two of those over time.
John.
Watched most of your 4k reviews now John and I can say you enchant.. Your delivery and knowledge is spot on. Well done Sir!👍
Kind of you to say so. Thank you. John.
Saw The Dark Knight Rises at the Waterloo IMAX, the only time I’ve ever been, and I still remember it vividly, emblazoned in my visual memory. Living in rural Scotland has its benefits but the lack of an IMAX cinema is not one of them.
I believe there used to be a genuine IMAX in Glasgow but they gave up on the format thinking the low quality 4K video projector would be an upgrade. I think there were two others in Britain that made the same mistake but apparently there are plans to re-open Bradford with genuine IMAX shortly. The BFI IMAX are going to get the only 15/70 print in the UK for the DUNE Sequel but that won't look quite as good as a genuine 15/70 film as this one was shot entirely on 4K video so the print is a blow-up from that. It should give a more natural presentation than any cinema that video projects it though.
John.
What a gentleman you are John offering help and advice to other up and coming young RUclipsr movie reviewers. 👍🏻
I like to see people doing well Cheekster. Always have and always will. John.
They're such a solid trilogy & their transfers to 4K are equally as solid. My order of preference are in their release order - The first was a game changer in the Superhero genre that unfortunately turned into what Marvel is today, but it makes this Batman saga more special imo.
& good on you for helping out other RUclipsrs 👍
Thank you Nick. Three very good films indeed and I suspect Christopher Nolan is responsible for making IMAX mainstream. Just a shame that not all IMAX cinemas are really IMAX. The same thing happened with Cinerama and where is that today? John.
What a fantastic review. I really appreciate how much love given to The Dark Knight Rises.
I think THE DARK KNIGHT RISES is the best of the three films but I do need to watch them all again sometime to check my first time appraisal. I think shooting so much more genuine IMAX 70mm for the third film helped me to enjoy it even more than I would have done so that's probably a big factor for me.
John.
Good on you John for helping the boy.
He's a lovely lad Mark - actually both those young chaps are lovely lads - and it will be good if they are encouraged to keep going for many years as they'll get better and better as their experience increases. There's nothing like having to think about a film for a review to make you see things in a film that you never would have noticed before. John.
That was great. I will be sure to check out their reviews as well!
@@andreasoberg2021 Thank you Andreas. Leon and Clark are both doing very well with Clark having only started up recently so it will be good if he gets a bit of a boost. John.
@@moviecollector5920 You sir strongly resemble the late great Peter Cushing, you have the best reviews on RUclips I've ever seen ,
A Masterpiece Trilogy, indeed.
Excellent review by the way, all relevant information an enthusiast needs to know!
Sorry, I thought I was being asked about The Shining! Please excuse all the claptrap I just typed up.
Yes, The Dark Knight series are three excellent films. That wasn't the case with the original Batman films which only had one great film as far as I am concerned.
Now then, if you want to discuss the ending of The Shining!!!!
John.
Nolan filming things practically is really something. This was a must have trilogy for me as soon as I got a 4K projector. Great review as always John. Look forward to whatever you've got next.
Despite the money that was thrown at these films, they still had to work out how to do it all and I think they did better than anyone could have hoped. What a series of achievements these films were and an advert to modern superhero film makers today... do them practically!!! John.
@@moviecollector5920 I agree. The more they do practically the better it looks. Nolan is great at this. Unfortunately I think a lot of blockbuster movies will include a heavy use of CGI. Understandable I some instances, but not all!
@@Darrenlovesmovies I think we have to accept that cinema audiences today are predominantly made up of younger patrons and that market has to be catered for. Computer generated imagery in general is what they want to see I think. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Perhaps so John and I personally don't mind some CGI in films... just enhances everything in my opinion when they try and do it practically, even if only partly
@@Darrenlovesmovies Agreed!
Breath of fresh air to hear someone like Rises over the first two. Love it! Great review!
Look through the comments Todd and you'll find there are a lot of us who think it's the best of the three films. John.
Another brilliant video John. Well done.
I can remember taking days off work to go and see The Dark Knight at the old IMAX at millennium point in Birmingham which isn't there anymore sadly and The Dark Knight Rises at Londons BFI IMAX with my family on there release days. Two of the best cinematic experiences I've ever had. Batman Begins I saw on release day after sitting my last ever exam before I left school so all 3 films are very nostalgic for me.
Keep up the great work 👍
I should have joined you for the screening of 'Rises' at the Waterloo IMAX Ben. Maybe one day we'll get some sort of 70mm festival in central London and we can all book into the Travelodge on the corner of Shaftesbury Avenue/High Holborn and Drury Lane for a few days movie goggling on the best formats available to man today. Maybe October will see the new Bond in IMAX and Death on the Nile at the Odeon in 70mm. John.
@@moviecollector5920 sounds great to me! They regularly show The Dark Knight trilogy at the Waterloo (or at least have done in previous years) so keep your eyes peeled. There well worth seeing in the format
Excellent review - most helpful - have had the Blue Rays for years but will pick up the 4K now I understand why. Your videos are really informative. Thanks.
I hope you like 'em as much as I did James. I'd avoided them for years after the sequels to the 1989 Batman film turned it all into a bit of a farce. The Nolan Dark Knight films were a revelation and even better to see them in these amazing 4K presentations.
John.
Great video. I really like your take on trilogy. Chris Nolan would appreciate your understanding of the film formats too. Thanks for a making such interesting and fun RUclips content.
It's been fun making them Iain so thank you for taking the time to boost my morale. John.
I love the tie you wore. A subtle touch! :-D
I never particularly liked wearing ties to work but fun ones like this, Spider-Man, Star Trek and Star Wars made wearing a tie more appealing even if my bosses tended to frown a little. John.
Great review once again John! Glad to see you enjoyed all three of these films so much. If you enjoyed the imax sequences in these films, you should definitely check out the remastered version of Batman V Superman in 4K, and Zack Snyder’s Justice League. Both feature the original IMAX aspect ratios for home video and weren’t cropped, which makes it very interesting.
Yes, I think I'd better give it a while longer before I finally look at Batman vs. Superman. I didn't like Man of Steel but I can see why it was made the way it was and it's great that people are making films for youngsters like that. Unfortunately, my preference is for the original comic style and films where you can see what is actually happening: that's not meant to be a criticism but I stopped playing computer games 30 years ago and Man of Steel was so fast it looked to me like it was aimed at gamers. If that film and his later films get youngsters into cinemas I'm all for it. John.
I’m glad people like you still exist, Thank you.
Me too!!! Thanks Muhammad. John.
The practical effects in these films are soooo amazing.
I know the difference between watching this trilogy and marvel films is ridiculous! Whilst there are mostly great SFX some are just laughably noticeable green screen in marvel
@@agoogle6454 I can just imagine the review of Black Panther in 4K where the final act has 2 Killmonger and BP dolls punching each other against a green screen.
Why doesn’t Disney render the SFX in 4K anyway, it’s not like they can’t afford it? I know they filmed on Arri Alexa minis which are capable of 4K and are what were used in Joker which looks excellent so I have no idea why they don’t release the films as shot.
@@agoogle6454 because it’s cheaper.😢. Batman v superman was one laughable climax. And the new dc and marvel movies are not really overwelming because you know they’re fake.
It's also the processing time of producing the cartoon parts in 4K. It takes four times as long apparently and that would undoubtedly have ramifications on the scheduled release dates. But as for the special effects in these three Dark Knight films, that's the way to do it! Practical effects that are then drawn over in the computer afterwards. It's the best solution if it can be afforded. John.
@@moviecollector5920 true. And todays cgi in 4k wouldn’t be as convincing as in 2k I think.
You have a really great channel, very genuine and knowledgeable and you seem to care a lot about the film community, keep it up!
Thank you Jordan. Today I'm putting a review of the 4K of The Shining together but it may take more than just today as these videos often take several days to complete. John.
Love it! Thanks for creating great content!
I always love your comments - so thank you! John.
Hello John, hope you are well today. My super 8 projector should be in the mail in around 7 days, I have came across another gem on ebay, it was close encounters of the third kind, its a 400 ft reel. it was at a descent price so I purchased it. fun thing is I can now compare the 4K disc to the super 8 film, cant wait! Clark.
I have the same 400ft reel Clark but yours may well come in a different box to mine as mine is the early release and it was soon transposed into a plastic clamshell case. You'll probably find the colour has faded a bit but some of them have survived well. It's panned and scanned so doesn't quite have the impact of the 'Scope frame but it's a good cut down and good fun. Great to be able to project it BIG! I have been considering as Close Encounters as my next 4K review so this is quite a coincidence. John.
@@moviecollector5920 what a coincidence haha! the faded colour and scratches on the projected image make it feel like real cinema, great fun. I would love to see your review on close encounters, sounds like fun. thanks! Clark.
Hi John , again watching your older video's . The 35 mm scenes seem to have a bronze tint to them . Facial close ups in some darker scenes.
Could be the translation from whichever camera I shot any 35mm scenes with. I actually don't remember much about this video now apart from my conclusion was that the third film in the series was the best in terms of the actual film and the image quality. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I meant watching it myself on my tv the 35 mm has somewhat a bronzy look to it , more out of focus , might be intentional by Nolan
@@fmulder1989 Aha, I see. I expect the 35mm general release prints would have been graded to look very similar to what we see on these 4K discs but aberrations do occur at times.
Hi sir just for record the team supervised by Steve begg shot almost all vfx elements and miniatures on 35mm/8p vistavision on BATMAN BEGINS and Super35mm was used sparringly just for above 120fps High speed shots.
Brilliant information Saliha, thank you. Hopefully what you've said can actually be comprehended by many who have been following my channel for a while now. Thank you again.
John.
Excellent john glad you enjoyed the trilogy Christopher Nolan is one of my favorites don’t know if you seen the prestige if you have not definitely put it on your shortlist I have it on Blu-ray and I can’t wait to get it on 4K one of my favorite films it has an incredible cast including the late great David Bowie. Really nice of you helping the young man out already looking forward to the next one have a great one👍
I will be getting The Prestige now. Strewth, I'll even give Inception another try now and that's saying something!!! John.
@@moviecollector5920 Fantastic john i’ll try to get a copy myself it was available here in the states in the Nolan box set and now it can be got individually but unfortunately it’s extremely expensive for instants I just picked up about two weeks ago the Batman trilogy on 4K for $35.99 us and the prestige is $39.99 crazy but that’s how it goes. Looking forward to talking with you about the prestige hoping the 4K will be well done but the movie itself will be interesting to talk aboutHave a good day🙂🙂👍
Can't wait to see what's next. You are really filling a void in film criticism and appreciation and it's delightful to watch.
The Shining is the next plan. That means a look at a few other Stephen King book adaptations can also be mentioned. I also plan to say what my favourite of those adaptations is and I would be surprised if anyone would ever guess it. John.
Just came across your channel and I love it! Thanks for doing such great work with these reviews!
Good to have you here and thank you for taking the time to comment. John.
Really enjoyed this video review, I'm going to have to get these movies now after seeing this. Many thanks for sharing this with us all.
They are pretty terrific Batman films Stephen but even if you don't particularly care for them, the image quality and the sound are special enough. The third film has so much that was shot in 70mm IMAX that it's a bit of a treasure really. John.
I haven't got any of these on 4k yet but watching this review i will look into purchasing all 3 thanks so much.
I think you'll have a great time with them Tom. For me the best was saved for last but that was helped by having more genuine IMAX shots in it than the second film. The first film is 35mm only if I remember correctly but it still looks great. John.
Wow how I have not come across your channel before! I’ve just subscribed as a good friend Leon mentioned you before me on his 1k vid. Your knowledge for Batman is amazing. I used to collect the Batman comics when I was younger. I really wish i kept them. I’m just about to watch your Apocalypse now vid with John and Leon now. Keep up the fab work.😀👍
@@moviecollector5920 I feel exactly the same John. I don’t really like the newer Batman movies. Michael Keaton was the best Batman along with Jack Nicholson as the joker.
What did you think of the joker movie?
Thank you for replying too. Take care.
@@carlinio9 Shhhhh, but I haven't seen Joker. It really didn't look like my sort of thing but I suspect I'll take a look when I spot it flying around going "cheap, cheap"! John.
The Dark Knight Rises is my favourite of the trilogy as well, though of course I like all three films. I have the 4K Nolan Collection, but not a great setup - visual or audio - to show off the quality these copies have to offer.
You've earned yourself a new subscriber - not my first video of yours, mind you!
Thank you Benjamin. I don't think you need to spend too much to really enjoy modern Blu-ray and 4K discs but a decent pair of speakers for stereo sound can make a big difference. I know we can tend to get a bit obsessive over having the latest thing but I tend to watch anything on our television screen with just a stereo amplifier driving a pair of speakers we've had for over 25 years and they still sound perfect. I have loads of JBL Control 1G speakers on other systems and they are tiny so a pair of those and a stereo amplifier would only cost about £150 in total. Then again, you might already have something better than that so just ignore me!
The Dark Knight films in 4K should look beautiful on anything. Particularly the sequences shot on 70mm IMAX film. John.
If you are good at something, never do it for free..
But you just are giving out gold for free John.
Thanx as always, for the great work!
Best fron Norway.
There is a little coming back owing to people watching a few of the adverts Jørn so at least the discs I've been purchasing to do the reviews are being paid for now... well, maybe not all but we're getting there.
We watched the Blu-ray of The Snowman last night. Really good and more so because we felt like we were enjoying Norway in winter. It's boiling here right now! John.
Another great review keep up the good work
Thank you happy sikh. The next video should be about the 70mm of Death on the Nile at the Odeon Leicester Square which shoud be interesting. John.
excellent review as ever thank you
A rather enjoyable review to make of three very good Batman films. What a surprise they were. John.
Great review as always john
Thank you Mark. Really enjoyed going through these three films. John.
the 4k discs are sold out at Amazon
If you're in the UK HMV probably have them in their on-line shop. John.
Hay bud just wanted to say that I came across one of your review videos not too long ago, can't remember witch one off the top of my head. But anyway wanted to say that very much enjoyed watching your video and watched a couple more, and after 2 or 3 videos I hit that subscribe button.....I really liked the review you did on tenet and love the film....thank you
Tenet is just brilliant. It took some working out but I think that was part of its appeal. Thank you for taking the time to boost my morale and it's good to have you here. John.
Great review bud… I’m new here… loving the tie! 🦇
Good to have you here. I've had the tie about 30 years. John.
Excellent! I’ve just been to hmv to pick up this trilogy on your recommendation… I’ll be watching the 1st one tonight, keep the Brilliant videos coming buddy! Regards 🙂
@@inkermanplatoon2210 Well I hope you enjoy them as much as we did Inkerman. You're in for a really good time this evening and whenever you get around to watching the two sequels. Always good to know when someone has supported HMV because without those shops on major high streets it's hard to imagine why I'd ever bother going in!!! John.
love the elephant man 4k in the background! i have the same one.
I was lucky to get that Elephant Man 4K as it had been sat on the shelf in the Plymouth branch of HMV for about six months at the time I purchased it and sold out everywhere else. What a great film. I do have a review of it up here somewhere now that I think about it.
John.
I got this boxset also and I like all three films, the dark knight rises I was lucky enough to see at IMAX south bank. What a treat that was. I'm with on the Tim Burton film John, for it has that gothic comic book feel about it. Good review as always. Keep em coming.
Good morning Stephen. It seems that there's roughly an even split between all three films with regards to which we think is the best. But it seems some people were turned off the third film because of a critic who detailed all the plot holes which proliferate throughout all three films. I don't care because they're comic books brought to life and although they lack the 'gothic' look of the 1989 film, they're so spectacular you can't help but to like them. John.
Can’t believe I still need to get these on 4K.
Done some ‘ steelbook vs steelbook ‘ videos on my channel. History of the Punisher. 4K opening of almost famous Cine edition. Etc etc.
All three are impressive to look at AJ but the third film is extra special as about one-third of it was shot in 70mm IMAX. Don't know if there was ever a steelbook for you to include in a steelbook vs. steelbook review in the future though but maybe you could do a steelbook vs. cardbook just for this one!!! John.
@@moviecollector5920 - So the 4K does change ratio as it goes through. I may have to get this set now they are great films. I know people take issue with the third. I don’t. As I knew that they couldn’t do much more after the Dark Knight. They kind of boxed themselves in - a victim of that films success !
And I may well look at doing that ( your suggestion ) 👍👍
@@ajsmovieplace Yes, the IMAX sequences see a change from the 'Scope ratio to 1.78:1 (16x9) and it works surprisingly well. Quite a few 4K discs have had this change of format now and it is not distracting at all. Going to 1.43:1 may be a little distracting but apparently it's handled quite well in Batman vs Superman. One day I'm sure I'll take a look at that film even though it doesn't really look exactly like my cup of tea. John.
@@moviecollector5920 yeah. I liked what they done with the latest BVS release with that.
Great review John as always mate thanks.
Thanks Ron. John.
There are only a few scenes in BvS in that format and the transitions between the two ratios are done quite well so it isn’t that distracting.
That's good. I wouldn't be bothered by it but a mass market is what the film has to appeal to and most wouldn't understand the cut to IMAX nor even know what it was or that it looked any better. John.
Thank you sir for your excellent reviews.
Thank you Marko. John.
I love that Nolan uses imax I just wish the 35mm was open matt instead of anamorphic 2.39. It's almost like Nolan wants to make sure we know when he switches back and forth . Great review!
Wow, thank you so so very much for the shoutout, I have murder on the orient express on 4K coming in a few days so I will be sure to review that, I tried out DaVinci resolve and I think after 2 hours of tutorials, I have the hang of it. Thank you soo soo much for the shoutout, it really means a lot! I only own the dark knight on 4K but I will definitely buy the rest of the series to review in the future! thank you so soo much and hope you have an amazing rest of your day. Clark.
I'm glad you like the little plug for your channel Clark. Murder on the Orient Express is a bit like Apocalypse Now in that it's not really a film that a younger audience is likely to fully appreciate but if the image quality is anywhere near as good on your system as it is on mine then you won't care if you don't particularly like the film because it's simply a marvel to look at. The cast is unparalleled, an acting masterclass and a classic Agatha Christie story in a confined environment in which you get to know who all the characters are. The follow up 'Death on the Nile' is out here in October and there are going to be 70mm prints so I'll be heading to London. If you can find a cinema that is going to screen it in 70mm it could be a good bit of research for you to see what you think of the best film format. If you can get into the projection booth too then you'll be in for a real treat so never be embarrassed to ask if you can go and see the film projection equipment at work. Some cinemas are pleased that people are interested so it is possible to get into there on occasion, particularly if the projectionist appreciates the attention.
Black Magic Design Davinci Resolve is full of things that can catch you out so it might mean some disappointments and occasions when you have to start all over again but the results can be as good as anything you'll ever see. The main thing to beware of is that you need a super computer to run the latest version and the second thing to beware of is that you must set the correct frame rate before you start editing because it can't be changed after you start and if you do get it wrong the end product will have image stagger due to frames being dropped. In other words, shoot in NTSC at 23.97 frames per second (or PAL at 25fps or NTSC at 29.97fps) and ensure the Davinci Resolve file is set to the same frame rate before doing anything. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Love your youtube channel :) You have so much knowledge, just curious and how you don't mind me asking but How old are you? I am 28 and love movies , I try to go to the cinema at least 3 times a year
@@moviecollector5920 I have already been looking at the website for my theatre that I saw 2001 on 70mm and they dont have any plans for death of a nile yet but since they love showing 70mm film, it is almost certain that they will show it. I cant wait to review orient express on 4K and then eventually death of a nile compared to the 70mm screening (although comparing 70mm screenings to a 4K disc is like comparing a pinch of dirt to a fancy car). I have already suffered the consequences of not having the right frame rate on davinci resolve haha, had to delete a lot of work but it was all fun. the next time there is a 70mm screening at my local film theatre I will definitely ask if I could see the projectionist booth, its a dream job of mine to be a projectionist and I am currently in the search for a 35mm projector. Clark.
The original Orient Express? Awesome film
@@michaelhawkins7389 Well I'm a lot older than you Michael but I pretty much gave up on cinema in the early 2000s. 35mm print quality had taken a bit of a hit towards the end of the 90s and then that deterioration continued until video projection was foisted on the premiere theatres to help convince an unsuspecting public that 'digital' was superior. It was a terrible time for cinema and it wasn't helped by all the low quality computer effects being added to films. I tend to only go to the cinema now when I can get to one of the few real IMAX cinemas and I know they're screening a real [reeel] film but video projection has improved vastly since those bad times. 'Death on the Nile' is getting a 70mm release in October though so I'll be able to go back to one of the premiere cinemas in Leicester Square when that one's out. John.
Anyone else have audio problems on batman begins with audio going really low and getting loud again? Especially in the scene with Ducard talking about fighting 6 men at 17:21 it's very low audio then 17:25 it gets normal loud volume again.
I didn't notice D Mon but it does happen occasionally.
John.
Thanks for sharing John i always liked The Dark Knight.
I'd avoided this films until now and the badgering I got from film fans after my 1989 Batman review. A little badgering worked out well this time around! John.
Wow, I love your content, but you shouting out for other channels is great. You might be the most wholesome guy on youtube.
I enjoy watching other people talk about movies and if I can help some of them, that's a pleasure too. John.
I agree with you. The Dark Knight Rises is the best of the DK trilogy.
And I much prefer the 1989 Tim Burton film. That was such a groundbreaking movie because it introduced us to modern era superhero films.
I suppose Superman The Movie got there the year before but the 1989 Batman was a different kind of film to Superman. Both are great films that have stood the test of time and I think Christopher Nolan's films will too. Sam Raimi's Spider-man films also but that's about it in terms of the superhero films I've seen. John.
@@moviecollector5920 d'oh! You are correct. I had a brain fart. Of course Superman was the beginning of modern day superhero films. Cheers.
Fantastic review, John. Very thoughtful that you're helping some other fellows out by giving them a shout!
Would love to see your review on Full Metal Jacket and The Shining. Heck, add Dr. Strangelove to the list as well since it just came out!
Thank you Danny. I may have to take a look at Dr. Strangelove. I didn't think The Shining looked brilliant but others certainly did so I'll have to take another look sometime. John.
The Dark Knight was an obsession of mine in the summer 2008. I went to an IMAX preview about 6 months earlier which contained the heist sequence and it blew my mind. Once I watched the film in it’s entirety, I couldn’t believe a performance could be given as good as Heath Ledger’s Joker - and I went to see a further 8 or 9 times - and probably around 4 times on imax at Printworks, Manchester... It captured my imagination and it also felt like I was watching Micheal Mann’s Heat... just absolutely incredible trilogy overall. Insanely high level filmmaking. Nolan also loved James Bon’s that much he put a Skiing sequence in Inception.
I remember Heath Ledger died before the film was out but I didn't mention that as I didn't want to put the video onto a bit of a downer. Best to just remember he gave a great performance in a great Batman film I think. I'd been put off Batman movies by then as the first four films descended into farce and I didn't think it was worth bothering any longer. These three were a nice surprise and I was finally ready to watch them. Not so with Batman vs. Superman though which will take a little longer for me to get up the enthusiasm for. John.
@@moviecollector5920 whilst I actually admire Man of Steel (nothing in compares to Superman 78’...), Batman vs Superman was a mixed to underwhelming bag of sequences. Ironically though, the Batman elements of the film are by far the best... it’s worth a watch for Batfleck (even I was cautious...). I actually don’t mind the Snyder trilogy - some great/ideas/visuals - but compared to Nolan’s trilogy? Not even in the same sport, let alone league... actually - I think you’ll hate it. Haha
@@ColonelSternlove One day I am going to have to give Batman vs Superman a go if only to see how the IMAX sequences are handled. I didn't like Man of Steel so my expectations are suitably lowered to the point that I might be pleasantly surprised. John.
@@moviecollector5920 IMAX sequences are brilliant and for all Snyder’s faults - he can frame a nice shot. Plus they look incredible on the 4K format. Man of steel for me was a good exploration of Clark Kent origins and I love the way they depicted him becoming superman - the last 40 min though was just too much fighting and not enough saving people (a problem throughout the trilogy)
@@ColonelSternlove I'll have to take another look at Man of Steel. I threw it in a cupboard somewhere so I'll have to dig it out. I know what you mean about IMAX sequences because even an average film can be something special if it's shot with any 70mm at all. John
The Dark Knight Trilogy is excellent. I have all three films on various home video formats. The 4K transfers are spectacular. Great review! Just came across your channel and have really been enjoying your content! I subscribed. I think The Dark Knight is the best of the three but I tend to think Batman Begins is almost just as good and consider it an underrated film. It took me a few tries to warm up to The Dark Knight Rises after seeing it in theaters but I now enjoy it almost as much as the other two.
I think our opinions of these films will change each time we view them simply because they're all so good. It's possible I had got into the films and by the third I was ready to love them, hence why it was by far the best instalment for me. Next time around that may change. Good to have you here Michael so welcome! John.
@@moviecollector5920 Agreed. Good to hear from you John! Keep up the great work!
Dark Knight for me. I heard Nolan re-rendered the effect shots at 4K (originally 2k), for the 4K release. Usually they don't do that, so that's another reason why the effect look better too. Another great review John, keep em coming!
Soon there will be computer processing that will be able to cope with rendering larger file sizes easily and all this 2K nonsense will be a thing of the past. But it's been a difficult time for those of us who love the cinema because the downturn in picture quality that occurred towards the end of the 1990s is still not fully sorted yet. Thank Gawd for people like Christopher Nolan and Kenneth Branagh who have the power to insist on 70mm and 15/70 IMAX. John.
Another great video, John.
The Dark Knight for me was the first time I saw 70mm Imax in person and it was at the Imax in London's Waterloo...That first shot where you are flying towards the building where the bank robbers fire the hook out the window blew my mind, and it was the same for everyone as you heard an audible gasp from everyone in the theatre as it appeared on the screen..by the end of that opening bank robbery scene I just couldn't believe what I'd just seen. I wanted it played again and again as did many others too.
I did end up going back to see the film again not long after😁😁
And since Christopher Nolan's film there have been many others to make the most of IMAX... but most of them have been by Nolan himself. Interstellar was probably the most awe inspiring cinematic experience I've ever had and I want to have it again. That too was on the 90 foot wide screen at Waterloo, a genuine IMAX theatre. Doesn't always run film though so you need to check. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yes, I agree about the film at that theatre...I've seen other movies like Transformers(fake imax) and The Polar Express 3D(fake imax) there and nothing compares to the real thing.
Just got my copy in 4k Blu ray, had it previously in regular Blu ray.
I hope you enjoy them as much as we did James. A clear difference between the Blu-rays and 4Ks here on our system and those IMAX sequences, particular in the last film, really do make this pack something special. John.
The influence of Michael Mann's Heat on The Dark Knight is enormous, so much so that I consider it an unofficial soft remake. Heat is another gorgeous looking film that I've heard is getting a 4K release soon, though the 4K scan (1080p Blu-Ray) they did a few years ago is already quite stunning. I was lucky enough to catch the new print at a local cinema. The sound alone was worth the price of admission.
Well that's another one to look forward to then. I saw Heat in a local cinema in Dillon, Colorado on first release and haven't seen it since. If I remember correctly it ran about 3 hours so that's going to be good value. John.
Great review I have all of them like the dark knight but will watch the dark knight rises again
When you do watch it again Stephanie, please let me know your opinion because I suspect my own was at least partially down to expectations. John.
Absolutely The Dark Knight Rises is the best of the three - the main problem with it I think are the poorly directed crowd fight scenes (though all of the cops being out of action should have had a better set up too). A lot of comic fans had a hard time with Bruce Wayne becoming a recluse and other behaviour they deemed un-Batmanlike (and disappointed that Bane wasn't as cartoonish as he is in the comic), but they forget that Nolan's Batman was one that, if not exactly grounded in reality, had at least a couple of toes on the ground (what's that? you don't believe a city would accept being locked down for a mere 5 months?). Great vid as always, thanks.
That's a good summary Adam. I had assumed that the Batman comics had changed Bruce Wayne's character and the films were using the new character. But I think it's a credit to the film makers that they took their own path. What works in a book or a comic doesn't necessarily work so well in a film and this version of Batman did work on film so that's good enough for me. John.
great review.i like all three movies .what drives me nuts is the aspect ratio change.i have a projector and a 21 by nine widescreen .so every time the ratio changes it over projects my screen.
its a trend i dont like.they should sell seperate imax editions.so now i watch the dvds they are constant widescreen.but back to the movies.you are absolutly right about the third one.
looking forward to the next review.
Mask your screen down to 1.78:1 next time and run the second and third films in that format. It's a shame to lose some of the size but it should mean it's not distracting. The alternative is to put deep black velvet masking top and bottom to mask the 1.78:1 sequences down to 2.40:1 but so much of the third film is in that taller format it would be a shame not to see it all. John.
Interesting, I too prefer Batman Begins to The Dark Knight. I recently rewatched Rises and loved it. Love your technical insights as well. You really are becoming our size wizard of films discussion. Thanks John. PS - we watched Mad Max Fury Road in 4K. Wow, the mirror is hanging in there 😆
I have got to get Mad Max Fury Road because so many people have told me it's a good 'un. But getting back to these Batman films - what a great surprise. I had avoided them because of the crap the original films had descended to. That's a little unfair but I really didn't want to see any more of them and then they started all over again. Thinking about it now, that was the only thing they could have done.
You must have put that mirror back with No More Nails or something equally as strong for it to withstand a Mad Max film! John.
Great video. I have the 4k steelbook of the first film, it's amazing. I need to get the rest
The image quality gets even better as each film comes along too. John.
Quite a bit of No Time To Die is apparently shot on IMAX 70mm, I'm just really hoping they release physical prints of it! Saw Tenet last year at the BFI IMAX and it was mind blowing!
I've only just been told about the 70mm aspects of the new Bond. I'm heading for Waterloo! John.
I bought The Dark Knight in digital 4K because I don’t want shifting aspect ratio. It may be fine in IMAX theater but not in my home theater.
What we need is some sort of automation that can shift the masking so that it opens up and closes on the frame whenever a taller aspect ratio is displayed. Some sort of sensor device would do it but I've done everything with string and sticky tape so it would be a little expensive and a bit too advanced for my setup perhaps. John.
@@moviecollector5920 or just ad a 2.35:1 disc. We 4K customers should be given a premium option. But I guess the 4K digital version is an acceptable compromise for us with a 2.35:1 screen.
Hello John, hope your having a great day. I am commenting to inform you that I have purchased a super 8 projector, I have been searching for around a week and found a good one that works properly and has no problems with it. the model is a Chinon Sound 6100 Super 8mm Film Projector, its an auto thread which is helpful for my small knowledge haha. I do not currently own any super 8 films but I am keeping my eyes open on ebay for a good super 8 gem, like I said I saw the first couple reels of the exorcist and the other day I saw a original 1989 batman trailer on super 8. they both sold out in the first 3 days, so now that I have the main asset to project the film, all I need is an actual film. I will be over time collecting super 8 films and hopefully find one I can compare to the 4K and make a video like yours, thanks! Clark.
Chinon produced some really good Super 8 projectors. I have an SS1200 but I used it to death and although it still runs there are one or two issues with it so it's not one I use any longer except for the odd bit of nostalgia.
Shame you didn't get that Batman trailer because I think that is the Derann Film Services print and that is where I got my 35mm Batman trailer of identical content from. It is therefore highly likely that my 35mm trailer was the master for the Super 8 release and I just happened to be there and spot it on the day they sold it off.... for £2.
All Super 8 projectors are auto thread as far as I know. I've not seen one that isn't anyway. They have to be really because it's such a small gauge and would be a bit fiddly to manually thread up. Having said that, I have a standard 8mm projector that has to be threaded manually and it's all set up rather easily.
Thanks to your input I think I've worked out the ending of The Shining so I might do a 'spoiler alert' at the end of the video and advise people to turn off now if they don't want to know before I discuss my/our interpretation of the ending.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 sorry for my late reply, Can't wait for the shining 4K review from you. I am now really annoyed I didnt pick up the batman trailer but eventually I will pick up a very good film on super 8. Thank you for your quick reply. Clark.
Great review! Definitely a set I need to add to my collection. I'm currently saving up for the Lord of the Rings Extended Cut 4K set, at a whopping £75!
I enjoy The Dark Knight Rises almost as much as the previous. I like that it has a slight David Lean epic feel to it. Perhaps it's not quite long enough to be considered a true Epic but it comes close. I wish we'd have seen more of Bruce surviving the pit and his journey back to Gotham. The plot feels a bit condensed despite the film being almost 3 hours, imo.
Yes, it's not made clear where Bruce Wayne is imprisoned (although it's fairly obvious it's in a distant country) and how he manages to get back again. But there are plenty of other quibbles if we allow ourselves to want to find all the plot holes in all three of these films. They're comic books brought to life so I'm quite happy to suspend reality for the duration. John.
Hello John, bought this boxset last year amongst my other 80 other 4K titles. Been watching the step-down Blu Ray as I only just got my Panasonic DP-UB820 player and hoping to get my 55" OLED in the next month or so. I cannot wait to watch my films in my converted spare room 'cinema room!' My favourite tech in Batman is the motorbike that has a back wheel that pivots at 90 degree angles, god I want one!! 🤣😂
@@moviecollector5920 Haha John we wouldnt be able to get more than 4 in there. Just been cruising over the Home Cinema Triangle, John (you), John (Mondo Vellocheck) and Leon (Talks Film). My first ports of call on all things film and cinema. My bank account thanks you for your recommendations!! 😂🤣😂
@@moviecollector5920 Hahaha its HMV and me being inebriated probably at weekends. It's like Christmas sometimes when parcels turn up midweek and you have no idea what they are!! 🤣😂
Another great informative vid John, keep up the great work 👍
I'm pleased you like it. Thank you. John.
Great insight on these films 👍👍....did ya get a chance to compare them against the standard blu rays??
Yes, and they're perceptibly better. It might just be HDR again but they may have really looked sharper. I should have spent longer analyzing that but I was running out of time before a filming trip so had to get on with it. I shot this the night before heading off and put it all together during down times whilst away. John.
@@moviecollector5920 ok thanks 👍
Great review John. I myself also prefer The Dark Knight Rises over TDK.. it combines all three films and ends nicely. TDK is a great film but it always feels like two or three films morphed into one in my opinion. So?. What's your theory of the end?. Does Alfred just picture Bruce Wayne outside in the cafe at the end or has Bruce finally found solice and killed off his alter ego so he could live his own life?.
My interpretation of the ending is that it's in Alfred's imagination. But it did leave open the possibility of a further film if someone wanted to put their feet to the fire and try to follow it. You'd have to be brave to want to do that if you ask me.
I agree, it's all one long film. John.
@@moviecollector5920 it's Bruce Wayne indefinitely
How lovely of you to shout out some younger RUclipsrs John. Class is permanent.
Great video btw.
Thank you Lee. If I can help others whom I enjoy watching myself then it's a joy to be able to do it. Let's see how the young man gets on now he will hopefully start to get an audience. John.
Reviews of 4k discs but the videos are in 1080p...
Hmmmmmm
Also what digital projector do you use when screening these discs at your home? I have been looking for a good 4k projector but they are either not great in quality or cost an arm and a leg
Well I do shoot the videos in 4K but there's more to it than compiling the finished product in 4K and slapping it up. The general rule of thumb is that there is no point in uploading a video in 4K unless it has HDR applied. There are exceptions where professional film makers have the best equipment and ensure the best image quality at the end of the process but with me just sitting in front of a camera and talking there really is no point as there would be no discernible difference between 2K and 4K. Where there will be a discernible difference is in the time it takes to upload the same video in 4K because I would have to compile it at a much higher bit rate to preserve the image quality. As it is on my fibre connection this one took about an hour to upload. In 4K it would take around 3 hours.
The video projector I use is over 3 years old now but if you can find a second hand one that's got low hours then it's worth considering. It's an Optoma UHD550X and it was amazingly good value. I purchased it on the basis of the model that cost twice as much but I soon had this one set up to look even better than the demonstration we had with the more expensive machine. Optoma do offer a sub-£1k projector now and that would be worth looking at if my own is anything to go by. Amazing image quality... if you know how to set one up!!! John.
This was a great and informative video John. I wasn't really planning to pick the 4K's of this trilogy as I have the bluray set, but I think I might have to soon. Great work, your production value is stunning and the information within is very valuable. I aspire to make content as quality as this 😃👍
I watched some of your livestream with Keith last night Jason. I would have watched more but it was time for beddybies. Always entertaining and I must make the time to watch more of your videos. If you do get the Dark Knight films in 4K why not do a review and I'll point people to it.
By the way, I saw when you said you were using sound out of your television and I realize funds aren't easy to come by but you don't have to spend a fortune on a good surround sound system these days. A stereo setup can work wonders but if you save up and get a fairly basic home cinema sound amplifier you can add speakers over a period of time. Richer sounds tend to start the amps at about £100 and speakers about £50 a pair.
Tonight I expect we'll be watching one of the Jurassic World films which I don't expect much of but I got a double disc pack of both the films in 4K for £8.95 so I don't think I'll be too disappointed.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I appreciate the kind offer to help share my video if I did a review of the dark knight 4k trilogy; however I don't particular think my reviews are any good. I don't do reviews very often for that very reason. I'm more inclined to do different kind of videos such as my History of Critters , which I'm super proud of :)
Thanks for the heads-up on a sound system route, definitely sounds like a plan.
Thanks again :)
@@jasonbrettyt I need to look at your Critters video. I really like your ventriloquist Critter named Steve. Oh well, got to go, Leon's got a live stream right now with some old boffin as a special guest... oh, he's talking about Critter!!! John.
These were great but I am a bit of a Tim Burton fan and loved his versions as they were a mix of the old series and a modern dark canvass of the late 80's!! A great review and well done for helping the younglings John!
I too still think the most of the 1989 film. But that was the only one of the original series I liked so to have three great films in this series was a real surprise. John.
@@moviecollector5920 True, I only liked the 2 that Tim Burton did, the 3 that followed them were awful. Lets see what the new one is like when it releases!👍
Another great review John! Will you be putting out a review on the 4k Indiana Jones films? Would love to see your thoughts on them
i have the films on Super 8 Adam so it's unlikely I'll get the 4K discs any time soon. I can tell you that they look great on Super 8 with the third film looking the best! Actually I only have 1 and 3 (didn't like 2 at all) and the 4th film on Blu-ray which is also exceptionally good to look at and listen to. John.
Hello one quick question, what is the movie playing in the beginning of your videos? Anna and The King?
I agree with you Batman begins is my favorite movie, with Dark Knight being my least favorite. For me nothing beats an origin story and a story about somebody being down at their lowest and rising up, facing, and beating their challenges, a la Rocky.
As usual love your videos and your in depth knowledge, although all the aspect ratios are still driving me a little bit loopy! Something I need to study upon! Keep up the great work!
Aspect ratios do tend to drive people crackers at home but they are historical from the various cinema formats over the years. That is why cinemas have motorized masking to frame the relevant ratio about to his the screen. The masking changes should take place behind curtains but sadly curtains cost money and as few of us care much for showmanship any longer, curtains/tabs are going the way of the Dodo. I still set the masking to frame all the different aspect ratios, particularly when I'm screening a film print.
It's a very short teaser trailer to Anna and the King which is on the front of the theatrical release print for Star Wars Episode 1 The Phantom Menace. Another one on there that shows up I think is The Beach. These were two of a bunch of coming soon films that hadn't then seen the light of day... only the light of a projector!
Thank you again Santiago. John.
Great video, John! Did you notice any issues on the Batman Begins transfer with DNR? From what I’ve heard, when it looks good it looks good, but certain scenes sporadically throughout have excessive noise reduction processing applied that did not have this problem on the old Blu-Ray release.
I didn't see anything like that. I hope I'd have noticed if someone had messed around with a film transfer. Possibly what people have picked up is the switch from anamorphic 35mm to Super 35 which is lower quality. I was astounded by the picture quality on Batman Begins which I had to look up because it looked 70mm in places but wasn't. Dark Knight is even better and Dark Knight Rises is better still. An amazing set. John.
Picked up the set today from HMV (always! - not Amazon) just checked out the Bane vs Batman fight and this 4k just makes a great film and fight greater. Thanks again.
That third film is just about as perfect as you can see on video. I really should take another look and compare it more closely to Tenet and Murder on the Orient Express because I suspect it's up there with them.
My next video will actually be an HMV tour James. The new shop in Newbury and it's going to be rather good I think.
John.
Just to note, after you said about a Bond film in IMAX, that No Time To Die is shot in Nolan's preference of IMAX 70mm for the action and 70mm for the dialog scenes.
70mm IMAX makes a right old racket so dialogue scenes would require post-synching of the lines and that is rarely as good as capturing the words live. I suppose it's a compromise we just have to live with. John.
My favorite is Dark Knight Rises as well with Batman Begins coming in a close second and The Dark Knight a distant third. It was refreshing to hear someone else share that opinion because we are definitely in the minority, which is something we are all too frequently made aware of when discussing these films 😂 You definitely found yourself a new subscriber 👍
That was my thinking too, that Dark Knight was the runaway favourite, but the comments on here seem to contradict that as most prefer Dark Knight Rises with possibly Batman Begins in second place. What the actual truth is I don't know but it was surprising to find so many people do consider the films in the same order that I do. John.
@@moviecollector5920 That is surprising. Maybe the fans of the Dark Knight aren’t the majority I assumed them to be. They are just the most vocal 😂
@@moviecollector5920 I saw that you replied to me, but for some reason RUclips won’t let me see the reply in full using the app. I thought of responding to the portion I could read, but then it’d look like I was talking to myself 😂
@@irl-hdr4080 It looks like my reply has disappeared which has been occurring increasingly lately. I reply to people and then when I go into the total unread comments on this channel quite a few of them I've replied to have returned weeks after I'd actually typed a response. RUclips does seem to have some problems at times. But anyway, it is interesting how the people commenting on here do seem to overall favour the third film in the Dark Knight series. It may be because there are more true film aficionados on here or it could just be that those who agree with my sentiments are more likely to comment. I felt the third film was the best and the first film the second best but I may change my opinion on a second viewing of all three. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yeah RUclips’s algorithms deletes and blocks completely innocuous comments for the most random reasons. You definitely make a good point about birds of a feather flocking together. It logically plays a part in the comments. I doubt my opinion of the films will change, but it wouldn’t the first time that it has happened for me. I used to greatly prefer Aliens over Alien. Not sure when or why, but I eventually came to appreciate the original more and more till eventually preferring it over the sequel.
Another great review and I love the tie! On another note I checked out the Orient Express on UHD and I was a bit surprised that I thought the Bluray and the UHD was very similar. Both look great, but I struggled telling the difference on many shots (on a 55" OLED at close distance). This really surprised me since I know it was shot on very high quality film and it is one of your favorite UHD movies when it comes to image quality. Some movies like Jurrassic Park and 5th Element was far better on UHD than on Blueray. I will give it another shot and compare some more. Anyway thanks for another great video!
A few people have found that Murder on the Orient Express does not look as good as it should on their systems. I don't know if there's a single answer to this but I really need to give our regular advice in the videos to ensure that players and displays have any digital 'enhancements' switched off or minimized with 'Sharpen' being the prime candidate for messing up an image. Orient Express has exceptional HDR so maybe something is going wrong there. Often on my system the HDR is overblown and the picture is destroyed but if your Blu-ray looks almost identical to the 4K then HDR is not doing its job well at all.
It was shot on 65mm film stock for 70mm release and as you can imagine, modern film stock means that this release is very fine grain and almost perfect to look at. I haven't yet seen another than can match it but maybe it just needs a bigger picture to fully capture how good it is. Any chance of getting a 4K projector demonstration nearby and taking that disc with you? I'd love to get to the bottom of this one Andreas.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thanks for the lengthy reply John. So the color and HDR works well and the movie looks good, it was mostly the sharpness that I was looking at. I expected it to be considerably sharper than the Blue-ray. I have a 55" quite modern OLED (a year old). I have it in Filmmaker mode so it has no extra sharpness added, no motion processing etc. I think both the Blue-ray and the UHD looks great, its just that they look very similar. I have been surprised by other movies like the 5th Element and Jurrassic Park looking good. Basically I thought the UHD version looked a bit less good than I expected and the Blue-ray looked much better than expected.
@@moviecollector5920 Another note. On my system HDR has never been overblown, however several movies I play are very dark. Mostly it is old Blu-rays so I need to fiddle a lot with the settings. I use Xbox X as my UHD player so maybe that has something to do with it. It almost seems as if the Blu-ray is interprered as HDR when its not so the brightest spot will be say 30% of the brightness that the TV can be displayed. With a few minutes of testing this can be fixed, but of course would be better if one did not have to do it. For this reason I actually try to replace most of my Blu-rays with UHD so that the luminance will be stable in the images. It seems like the players and TV struggle with dealing with both HDR and non-HDR material.
@@moviecollector5920 Yes, I think you could be right. Do not have access to another player, but I will consider it as an investment for the future. Thanks John
@@andreasoberg2021 I hope it works if you do buy a dedicated player. I have a couple of Panasonics and one of them was only about £100 more than three years ago so they're not a massive outlay I suppose. John.
6:25 I'm going to have to watch Batman Begins again with fresh eyes if you really feel that way, I haven't see it since it was in theaters. The Dark Knight is one of my favorite movies, I think it was the best movie of the 00s that was ever made.
It's been interesting to receive all the comments on this video William because I thought I'd get a lot of upset replies about stating my opinion that The Dark Knight was in third place but the opposite has been true (so far!) and many feel that The Dark Knight Rises is the best film with Batman Begins at number 2. I didn't really know Heath Ledger and did not see The Dark Knight at the cinema so perhaps I wasn't influenced by all the sudden media reports about his performance as the Joker immediately following his death. If I'd have been younger and had ventured to a cinema perhaps I'd have been more receptive to how good this film is but time had moved on and I was watching all three for the first time together and they had a different impression on my as a result. I expect I'll enjoy The Dark Knight more than I did the next time I see it and similarly perhaps you'll find you enjoy the other two films even more than you did the first time around.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I saw the Dark Knight in IMAX with my then High School girlfriend whos my wife now, she was head over heals in love with Heath Ledger and his death had upset her at the time so I remembered seeing that movie in the theaters with her very well, I have a very detailed memory of it, it was a early date for us so I think that was part of it, also the IMAX picture was incredible, like looking through I a gigantic window, I know that you won't argue that it isn't a damn good looking film.
@@Edward135i I think it's got two genuine IMAX sequences in it William but feel free to correct me if there are more than that. I can't recall how the rest of it was shot but for genuine IMAX prints it would have been struck from the original camera negative to make it look as good as it could to stand up to the rest of the print. Sounds to me like your cinema outing for The Dark Knight could be the most memorable you've ever had. The Dark Knight Rises had much more genuine IMAX in it so you may find you enjoy that even more the next time you see it, even on disc.
John.
Great review! Have you watched any steamed 4K from Apple TV or Netflix if so how does that compare to 4K Blu-ray ?
I don't do streaming. But the quality should be good - probably close to Blu-ray quality which is exceptional enough. But until a new codec comes along that successfully compresses a lot more than is available now there is no way a stream is going to match a 4K disc. Just look at the data throughput which is miniscule on the web by comparison to a disc. John.
Great video. I have to say for batman I enjoyed the films in order but picture quality it's the reverse but as you say it's a preference thing. I have to say it's been a busy week for me with watching films like logan in 4k and one I thought I would not like much but actually did which was "Mortal Engines" but I will keep coming back to your broadcasts as I learn so much. Excelsior :-)
Mondo Chelloveck Movies is a big proponent of Mortal Engines simply because the picture quality of the 4K is so good. I must purchase a copy and give it a look. I suspect it's shot on video though so I'll find plenty of faults because I'm like that!!! John.
Really enjoyed this video. Look forward to all of them. Now that I have upgraded my HT to 4k, Sony 77 inch A80J, look forward to picking up this set. My wife picked up the original Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory in 4k and I was not sure if it would be a good one and I feel like I have seen the movie too many times. However when we played it I was enamored with the entire film. It was like I had never really seen it before.
Willy Wonka is a very colourful film as I recall. I never liked it but it was made to look mesmerizing to children in cinemas and hence why the HDR discs have worked so well. I haven't seen the 4K disc but I can well imagine what it will look like... although not as good as the Dark Knight films methinks, particularly Dark Knight Rises with all that 70mm IMAX.
John.
I was meaning pick up this set ages ago and got lost in shuffle . Think enough time has past to rewatch erm as fresh
And I hope you enjoy them as much as I did John. John.
is it worth upgrading my blu rays also my steel book total recall 4k game today fab can you please do a review of David lynch's dune it's out by arrow in 4k in early August I preordered a deluxe steelbook can't wait to see it also the new one in the cinema
I don't think I'll take a look at Dune Mark but if enough people hassle me I'll probably concede. I saw it at the cinema and it's the only film I've ever fallen asleep in which isn't a great advertisement for it. No doubt I'd really enjoy it if I did watch it again today.
The 4K discs in this Dark Knight set are perceptibly better than the Blu-rays but all our systems vary. I really need to start including a recommendation for everyone to ensure every digital 'enhancement' on their systems is off as these things can really mess with the image quality. 'Sharpen' is the worst offender but even so, all displays and player combinations are different and what looks good on one may only look average on another. The three films all looked first class on my system and got better with each film. Astounding quality. They looked sharper than the Blu-rays to me but it's mainly the enhanced colour and density provided by HDR that makes the difference. The Total Recall 4K release is excellent too... just like watching a 35mm print. John.
@@moviecollector5920 thanks john
I have this 4K set and I love them. Especially The Joker and Bane in 4K. Just glorious. But I’m using the Xbox to play 4k discs. I’m unsure what player to buy. I hear the SONY UBP-X700B Smart 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Player is excellent.
Because Panasonic managed to make standard Blu-ray work successfully in the early days when no one else could I stuck with them for UHD Blu-ray. When I purchase another player I plan to get the top of the line Panasonic for that reason. I'm sure all the makes are fine with 4K though but just make sure you get other outputs rather than just HDMI. John.
Great tie!!!!
Thank you. Think I got it in 1990 or 91. John.
Great review.i haven't got any of these on 4k yet but was thinking about getting that Nolan 4k set on amazon,a good few of his films included in that set.does anyone know if the new Dune film is filmed in "proper" imax?
Dune is shot entirely Digitally, and none in Digital IMAX. However there will be some screenings with the film put onto IMAX 70mm.
That might actually look rather good because video cameras now can be fabulous and a transfer to film will introduce that all important fine grain distinctive filmic look. Could be worth a trip to one of the few IMAX cinemas (Waterloo, Science Museum, Bradford, Manchester or Glasgow) to see it. Let's hope it's better than David Lynch's film of years ago which didn't play well at the time. John.
@@moviecollector5920 That's a really interesting observation I hadn't thought about. Joker and Roma, both shot Digitally, also had some 70mm screenings.
As far as I'm aware Bradford and Manchester swopped their IMAX film projectors for Digital ones. I don't know about Glasgow, but I'm pretty sure I read that The BFI Waterloo and The Science Museum, London are the only IMAX Film Projectors left in the UK. Bit frustrating as The Science Museum and The Media Museum, Bradford are sisters, but the Media one doesn't present film (apart from 35mm, 70mm, and admittedly has the only Cinerama screen and three projector system outside of America. All Cinerama content now has to be stored Digitally, as the film reels have deteriorated).
@@davidjames579 There seem to be conflicting reports on the IMAX film projectors being replaced. I hope all of them have kept them but if not, let's hope the video quality is coming up to a similar standard. John.
Setting aside your infinite knowledge and passion you might be one of the most kind hearted film collector on RUclips. Loved that final part where you talked about other collectors! Take care!
Good morning Patrick. I'm sure I replied to your comment before but it's just reappeared in my list of comments I haven't responded to so I thought I ought to respond again just in case my previous reply didn't get through. Thank you for your kind words. Young Clark has done a 4K review of The Shining and I'm doing one too so maybe his channel will get a bit of a boost when we both finally upload them. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Hey! Yes I do remember your answer! It must have gotten deleted somehow! Oooh can’t wait! There is so much to say about The Shining that one could literally create an entire channel just on the different interpretations of it! Take care! Patrick
@@tornapart I've put my interpretation on the end of the review so that might generate quite a discussion in the comments. John.
I love these 3 movies. and I agree that Rising is great and underrated. I like it more every time I see it. Looks and sounds great too.
I think someone with influence must have done a review slagging off the third film and it's put a lot of people off because I think it's excellent. Yes, there are flaws but there are in all three as it's a comic! John.
I agree, Dark knight rises is awesome. Plus Batman Begins is fantastic
There seems to be an even split across the three. This suggests they're all just bloody good! John.
You know, I find it difficult to pick a favourite from the three films. They are each tonally different and bring their own differences to the story. This boxset is a delight and I simply treat the three films as one 7 and a half hour movie 👍🏽
I think that's perfect summing up Coyley... they are one long movie. We watched one per night over three nights and after the first film we were really looking forward to getting into the cinema over the next two evenings. That's a blooming good sign if you ask me. John.
@@trevorml1362 That’s just your opinion, my friend. I think it’s great.
@@trevorml1362 It seems to be the most popular from the people who have commented on here. It has the biggest scale of the three films and has the best ending so that probably has a bearing. But next time a lot of us watch the trio we might have a different opinion. Although having said that, the IMAX 70mm ensures that last film is always going to be a little extra special even on our 4K home videos. John.
Hello John, hope your doing well. just popping in to see how your shining 4K review is going along, hope its going well. Clark.
I ran the film yesterday and I need to check the disc on my other player as about 40 minutes in the image started to break up, the sound shortly after went off and finally the disc froze completely. A bit of a concern given how many 4K discs I've purchased in the past 18 months. I'll probably be a few days before I can record anything or have a review ready so don't wait for me. When I do get one done and up I'll include a link to your own and mention it and how mine came about as a result of you mentioning that you were about to review The Shining. First time I watched it I thought there were too many holes in it and I haven't changed my mind this time. Neither my wife nor I can fathom the ending exactly but perhaps we're not supposed to. My take on it is that Jack is a ghost and he's going through a loop whereby he experiences more or less the same thing over and over again but it still doesn't really make sense. John.
@@moviecollector5920 oh don't worry, a lot of 4K discs have a little screw-up every now and again. Arrow video makes a lot of mistakes. my theory about the end of the shining is that the hotel has eaten jack up and now jack is apart of the hotel now, the other people in the 4th of july picture are the other people who have been sucked up by the hotel. as funny as my theory sounds, thats what I think. the end of clockwork orange also has one of those twist endings. Thanks for the quick reply! Clark.
@@ClarkTeddles That's a better interpretation of the ending Clark.
@@moviecollector5920 sorry for this late reply. Thank you. Clark.
Batman begins was always my favourite John, I was very surprised when you quoted the viewing figures for it, I think it just has a better story than the other two
They thought out the Batman origin very well, no doubt about it. I wonder if I'll still prefer Dark Knight Rises next time around. John.
Great choice for your 4k collection. I have Psycho 4k and Die Hard 4k in the post ☺
Both those 35mm films should be good on 4K because, let's face it, they always are. But if you want the best then keep an eye out for films released on 70mm or even IMAX 70mm (15/70). Even some Blu-ray discs if from a 65mm negative will look better than most 4K releases and a great example of this is 'Grand Prix' and 'How The West Was Won' with that second film being only one of two genuine Cinerama feature film releases. John.
@@moviecollector5920 You should check out First Man 4k, it has an IMAX sequence at the end of the movie.
@@PawPads2 I got it when it first came out so maybe I'll include that 4K in a round-up review video soon. Thanks for the reminder. John.
@@moviecollector5920 yeah, thats a good idea 👍
Really interesting how you thought the third was the best. I remember being let down after seeing it at the cinema. I think I need to rewatch the trilogy in 4K. Great video.
My expectations had been lowered so it was something of a surprise. At the time you saw it you were likely hoping for more and perhaps that was the cause of your disappointment. Being interesting to find out what you think next time around as your expectations will not be what they were. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Love your youtube channel :) You have so much knowledge, just curious and how you don't mind me asking but How old are you? I am 28 and love movies :)
I would be interested to know how this compression affects a transfer on the kaleidescape service (Strato S). They say they use pretty much no compression at all but I find that hard to believe.
Also I absolutely love your channel, thanks for the awesome content!
Thank you Brandon. I think the compression used is amazing. To go from over 1Gb per second to a 50Gb Blu-ray disc is quite unbelievable, particularly when you consider how good the finished products actually look. However, I believe 35mm film should be scanned at almost 6K to ensure every detail is fully captured so what would that mean for IMAX? 45K perhaps? Film - it's incredible. John.
Love all 3 but my favourite is Batman Begins. For me it's the best batman movie ever made
I was surprisingly impressed with it too Andy. I think I'll think even more highly of it the next time I get around to watching it too. John.
@@moviecollector5920 hope you have a nice day I'm in Scarborough North Yorkshire weather's not great here today. Andy
@@andylikesstuffchannel It's quite nice here in Cornwall. Came through a torrential downpour heading back from the midlands yesterday evening and it seems that was widespread as Newbury in Berkshire had it a few hours later and it appears West London bore the brunt. But despite the extreme weather at time here's some good news - the coral bleaching in the northern half of the Great Barrier Reef was reported as having fully recovered by Sky News Australia about ten days ago. John.
Try mask of the phantasm it’s a very personal Batman story
@@GringoXalapeno I remember that feature length cartoon did have a good reputation at the time. Maybe I will finally take a look soon. John.