Old Timer 23OT Scout Camping Pocket Knife
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Review of the Old Timer Scout Knife. Model # 23OT. The Old Timer 23OT Traditional Scout Knife is 3-3/4" closed. It features brown sawcut handles, nickel-silver bolsters, brass liners, bail, and heat treated stainless steel springs. The 23OT has a 2-3/8" main drop point blade, screwdriver/caplifter, awl, and can opener all in 7Cr17MoV high carbon stainless steel.
#ThriftyKaniffy
I have a Kamp King that I found in the desert. I cleaned it up and carry it for EDC just for fun and it’s great. I never was a Boy Scout but always loved the look of these.. at my age I’m carrying one 🤦🏻♂️
Nothing wrong with that Durango. Nice find!.
Wow, thank you for the trip down memory lane. i had forgotten all about my scout knife from 50 years ago!
Welcome to the channel Bernie. Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching.
I’m carrying a Kamp King all week 😂👍🏻
One of my favorite patterns to collect, thanks for sharing!
That's great to hear. Glad you liked the review Larry.
Nice review! Currently don’t have any camp knives. I do like the Boker offerings that Rick has showed on the Warthogg channel. But you know I like Old Timer and think it’s a really solid choice for someone wanting to try that pattern.
Get one they’re cheap but are very fun.
Thank you TK, a nice looking knife, as usual a very informative and enjoyable review.👍
Take care
Sam
Thanks for watching Sam. Glad you enjoyed it.
All the new China Old Timer knives that I own are solid and flush. I often wonder if they're made in the same factory or area of China that manufactures Rough Ryder & Marble's.
There are a lot facilities over there, probably not I would guess.
It's a solid made beefy and a good looking knife. With some care it'll last many years. I just bought the multi blade carving/whittling knife by O. T. Looks like the same frame as your scout knife. TK have you picked up the RR locking sowbelly in blue denim mic. It's a hell of a knife I think you would like it. Thanks for your video take care. Doug
It's a solid knife. Yes, that RR sowbelly is on order along with many others. Thanks Doug.
I purchased one. Works great unless you use the can opener to open a can, then you get lots of wobble.
Good to know. Thanks for the feedback, Don.
I'd love a good traditional USA made scout knife, but there hardly seems to be any made anymore... few chinese made for sure, but to be 100% honest Victorinox makes the absolutely best scout style knives... alox pioneer blows everything out of the water in the scout category..
I can't disagree. There are some nice examples out there, but mostly on the used market.
Nice looking Scout knife, maybe test the bottle cap lifter a few more times ;-)
Jamaican me thirsty Jolly.
Good review but I would add a few more comments. Compared with similar sized Swiss Army knives, this knife is much heavier and the blades are much harder to open. But - If you want a new American-style Scout knife, this Old Timer and Rough Rider are the only two choices I know - and of the two, I’d pick the Old Timer.
If I were really interested in having a one and done camp knife I'd probably look to the secondary market. Thanks, MTC.
For the money it's not bad. The older ones had slightly better steel in my memory, but as i said; it'll do the job.
It doesn't have a cross on it so it'll always be a tough sell. Thanks Jeroen.
Thrifty I know in movies indiana Jones carried a kamp King knife I may has to get one I has the whip it cracks like a gunshot too
Crack that whip
Give the past a slip
Step on a crack
Break your momma's back
@@ThriftyKaniffy pmsfl way to go William Shakespeare 👍🐾🦊🇮🇹
I need to grab a few scout/camp knives. This would be a great carry for me. I have been eyeing the Marbles GI mil-k with stainless handles. Cheap first scout.
I have that Marbles knife, it seems pretty well made.
Thanks, TK, for the share of this classic Old Timer (Ulster) scout/camper. What's with all the awls needing a real point ? Otherwise, a great knife in a more pocket-friendly size. Luved carrying one as a member of BSA.
Yea I dunno, are they worried someone will cut themselves?
I don’t know!!!!! I just don’t love them they are big pieces!!!!! Anyway I have some fantastic Hen & Roosers comin in along with a modern piece!!!!! But wow them Hen & Rooser knives are money for the price!!!!! There sweet I only have one coming in just to see if there as good as I think then I’ll grab a bunch of them because there nice for around 50 bucks!!!!!!!! Be well out there!!!!!!
Looking forward to seeing the H&R under review Pete.
Nice review. Actually, my trusty old scout knife recently fell apart so I am in the market for one. Not sold on the plastic scales, I may check out the UH version.
Good idea Jon. Hope it works out for you.
Kind of an old traditional design on my end. I never had one in my youth eons ago.
But few years back I rescued the missus's stepfather's 1980 Case XX camp knife from a tackle box. Scales are perfect but the steel is a bit tarnished in spots, bail is as you'd like after what said.
The awl may have had some extra filing. It's a nice flatish but rounded point to do the job.
I'd carry it here and there but I'm such the fan of my 1982-ish Buck Cadet 303 when not much going on.
hmm, maybe I should get some bottled beer. (-:
..and yes, it's can opener isn't sharpened either. yup, silver nickel bolster camp knives are cool in their way.
A great excuse to buy some quality beer. Sometimes it's nice to have all that's on a camp knife, but more often I prefer a different sized blade when I'm on the go. I usually drink at home. Bars are costly, and most of my drinking buddies are states away.
@@ThriftyKaniffy yeah. Clipped one handers however are hard to beat.
It would have been nice to see a more detailed demonstration, something like opening a can or using that awl….. even the bottle opener on flea market nail clippers seems to open a bottle, but the other tools can actually bend if they’re not made correctly.
Noted, thanks Richard.
I kinda hope they eventually make this one in the bone and 9cr series. I really want a 1095/1095 crovan version but that is unlikely. I collect camp, stockman and unique work knives like the queen big chief or Mercator K55K so a old timer and uncle henry camp knife would be nice but I'm not the biggest of fans of 7cr stainless or most stainless steels below 8cr.
Seems they're only doing it with some of their best selling knives. I'd like to see the series extended also.
It is well made but those covers are still some of the ugliest (IMO) made. I also doubt it is actual Delrin. Safer to say "Composition" But it is well made and all the tools function! I still call it a spear blade. The reason it is not symmetrical is so that it doesn't stand proud when closed. I think the weakest part is the punch. I hate to say this, but this is the better option than the most current Rough Ryder Scout knife.
I agree it's a spear blade. Drop point is OT's description / language so I'm just parroting that. Stuart Harvey commented an excellent description of the Chinese made handle material. The punch isn't great some grinding could improve it. Yes, current RR's can't lift a cap like this one so Skip DeSheau down at the Volcano Club probably fancies this one. 😆
I'm surprised that they changed from Delrin, which seemed to be indestructible. I used to own a Barehead, and while the blades were corroded and had seen a lot of use, there was barely a scratch on the scales.
Also I wonder how many Scouts actually used this. Definitely not when I was in the Scouts (80s in Philippines). No one had these nor a swiss knife even. The ones who had knives had what looked like a Buck 119 or else a bayonet; not surprising, lots of army brats in my school. Would have been nice to learn bushcraft then, and in hindsight, I wonder why they didn't teach us feathering, about fatwood and the like. Still, we had a great time outdoors.
Brought me back in time, TK!
I just never see Delrin being used to describe the handle on the Battenfeld website. It seems like a slightly different type of plastic to me, but I could very well be mistaken.
@@ThriftyKaniffy Delrin is a Brand name like Kleenex. It's one of those Secret Recipe ancient chinese secrets kind of Epoxy Resin based thermoplastic with other stuff inside. And Yeah it's practically indestructible unless for some mysterious reason it actually catches fire... That's when the Fire department writes off your house, the entire block, closes the streets, calls in the EPA, and settles in for the week to watch your knife collection go China Syndrome...
So yeah, you can call it facial tissue, but if you call it Kleenex, you owe somebody some money! So when the original Old Timer went tits up in 2004, they likely took the rights to the brand name with them. And Nobody wants to call it formaldehyde based thermoplastic, at least not in public!
You have to like the Scout knife pattern a lot in the UK to buy it, the more common medium SAKs are slightly cheaper than the RRs and in all honesty a Camper has a better set of tools. That being said I have 4 and would have bought this Old Timer over a couple of them. A shame they've changed the scales material, the one Old Timer I have (the carving jack??) has good solid grippy scales.
Interesting thoughts JHAY, thank you. Among the SAKs, I think I may acquire a Hiker. Seems to have the most practical toolset for my needs. That may well be a future review.
You should really test that cap lifter about five more times , just to be sure.
Better safe then sorry.
Great Video. Peace, Be Free.
6-pack test underway. Thanks for the lazy Sunday.
He would embarrass Himself with the hiccups before He would get the video done
Would you get rid of that one old timer camp knife
It's not going anywhere Jrod.
I'm likely misinformed a tad, but I have understood that since 1959 when the Original Schrade Company went belly up it was taken over by Taylor Brands (which was in actuality) The Smith and Wesson Holding Company... One by one, each of the companies that were acquired, over the decades have each also been stripped and buried. With Battenfeld (or is it Battenfield?) now pretending to be Old Timer / Uncle Henry... etc...
All I know is I want to snap up as many as I can afford while I can, before they too go the way of all the other Dinosaurs and Flipper Kiddy madness finally takes over the world... Even Buck is showing the signs of Flipper Kiddy madness now causing rolling magnitude 7 Hoyt tremors epicentered near Spokane...
They're just trying to stay relevant in today's market. I don't see either company folding anytime soon.
Good review as i am contemplating getting an Old Timer but which one. However i have numerous Victorinox and they are hard to beat and set the bench mark. That said i love the tradition associated with the Older Timer knives, but those covers are ugly (sorry). Any suggestion for which Old Timer you would use as an EDC?
Hi Paul. They aren't everyone's taste. I have a sentimental bias toward them for sure. EDC? I use a Minuteman myself, but also have you seen the Landshark review? ruclips.net/video/3W91PXk58nk/видео.html
@@ThriftyKaniffy Thanks for that. Watched the video again as did watch it the first time but thought it was so ugly. However it grows on you so have just purchased it along with the Old Timer Steel.
@@paulhammersley5409 I've wondered about the OT steel as well. Let us know how you like it.
Is one edge of the can opener sharpened a bit? When I was a cub scout, my knife had a can opener that you could easily used. It had a sharp tip to pierce the can and the inside of the hawkbill was slightly sharpened to allow you to cut the can lid. The current ones I've seen (Marble's, Rough Ryder) have a can opener that is blunt like a knife blank that hasn't been shaped at all. What's the point of a can opener that is too blunt to easily open a can?
No just a blunt edge on the interior of the can opener. I think the idea is for it to pierce and wedge spread not cut in the traditional sense. That could put shavings in your food. Tin is pretty malleable stuff. Thanks Stephen.
@@ThriftyKaniffy The old ones all had a beveled edge. I think they figure no one actually uses these as a camp knife any more.
@@StephenWorth Could be. Nothing like a meal of beans and franks around the campfire though.
@@stuartharvey2523 Yes, you surely didn't see the banged up cans of green peas like you do in today's supermarket.
I have lots of SAKs, but I also have an old Imperial knife with the same tools as this one. I like this one, but I don't want to buy Chinese made knifes
Buy what you like. Thanks Vlad.
@@ThriftyKaniffy yeah, it's easy to say, but almost everything went to China 🙂
American Outdoor Brands is the parent company, S&W was spun off in 2020.
Thanks, I can't keep up.