Thanks for stopping by first and foremost ! i'm a little sick at the moment and bit congested/nasaly so please forgive me on that end, but otherwise i hope you enjoy, God bless and i hope to catch you in another video !
I appreciate you checking out the channel amigo ! And i've definitely tried every version of the bolt pistol under the sun, you can combine that set up with a melee weapon like the shockmaul with the falter blessing to triple dip your bolt pistol in blessings, but even then, i find that set up to be strictly worse for my build, lethal proximity + grenade tinkerer make my shredders as big as the ogryn frag bomb, so that can't be changed the difference is too good to give up on a Grenade Vet build (check out IN-DEPTH GUIDE in description for demonstration) and puncture combined with a double nade or twin blast proc is 12 stacks of bleed to everything on screen + puncture is max 16 stacks of bleed on 8 priority targets, combine with a rending or specifically uncanny strike weapon, and now your grenades have 120% rending and have no weakness, as now your shredders even make a crusher pack in a mixed horde fall dead, Not saying your set up is bad, it's just bad on my build compared to what i have, executioner adds no additional break points at havoc 35+ on my build, where as i can still screen wipe everything at Havoc 35+ with shredders + uncanny
Cool build! Sorry if I missed a point, but why chainaxe? Rule of cool? I guess, why not dueling sword like every other "meta" build out there :P Does it synergize with the other choices some how?
Yeh Pretty much rule of cool, but it is no slouch, the biggest thing that benefits this build is opportunist (mentioned in my Unlocking Grenade Vet video) UNLIKE skullcrusher which isn't applied by grenades or shout (the stagger) opportunist gains access to the rending as long as the enemy is staggered, so my grenade initial damage staggers then MOST of the bleed ticks also benefit, get a double nade/twin blast and you can nuke a room before they even move, that is the primary reason, opportunist works really well, and isn't required to be in melee, Also if you take slaughterer, your grenades DO benefit from the bonus power (damage aspect) both initial damage and bleed but most definitely i take my shovel when i want to win or my combat knife, just a personal preference, in my IN-DEPTH Grenade Vet video, i do mention/concede DS is the go to havoc meta weapon for most, it's easy and very effective, but i don't feel the need to, to get my wins and again i just prefer other things, hence why the bolt pistol over plasma as well, you can't be a grenade vet without lethal proximity + Grenade Tinkerer for the biggest booms :) if you want a full break down on weapons and check out my in-depth guide most/all of my videos have chapters and you can go to the weapon discussion :) the shockmaul also works for the same reason the chain axe does due to opportunist and other things, Thanks for stopping by, God bless and good luck amigo !
@@babayagagaming123 appreciate it! really interesting point about stagger! and do you know if the explosion bonus on the bolt pistol blessing activates even when you aren't holding the pistol? going to try this but putting the 3 points you used for the +1 grenade carry and the 20% double grenade into the right tree to get to desperado
@@piratepat44 Absolutely they do ! on my first video on the channel its a quick 30 second video to show that it does (i have rashad in hand) and used that to post to reddit for my guide originally, and sounds good to me ! i do recommend if you can fit it, twin blast the higher difficulty you go will be one of the highest value nodes in the tree don't underestimate especially with how many grenades you throw ! and if you like weapon specialist/prefer more crit orientated builds, shameless plug again but check that IN-DEPTH grenade guide i have, go to the "Alternative Talent Tree" Chapter and you will find my preferred/optimised weapon specialist build for when i take reciprocity/desperado
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Thanks for stopping by first and foremost ! i'm a little sick at the moment and bit congested/nasaly so please forgive me on that end, but otherwise i hope you enjoy, God bless and i hope to catch you in another video !
executioner and puncture on the boltpistol stack up so well, please try it sometime with maniac and flak, it'll reach some good breakpoints easily!
I appreciate you checking out the channel amigo ! And i've definitely tried every version of the bolt pistol under the sun, you can combine that set up with a melee weapon like the shockmaul with the falter blessing to triple dip your bolt pistol in blessings, but even then, i find that set up to be strictly worse for my build, lethal proximity + grenade tinkerer make my shredders as big as the ogryn frag bomb, so that can't be changed the difference is too good to give up on a Grenade Vet build (check out IN-DEPTH GUIDE in description for demonstration) and puncture combined with a double nade or twin blast proc is 12 stacks of bleed to everything on screen + puncture is max 16 stacks of bleed on 8 priority targets, combine with a rending or specifically uncanny strike weapon, and now your grenades have 120% rending and have no weakness, as now your shredders even make a crusher pack in a mixed horde fall dead,
Not saying your set up is bad, it's just bad on my build compared to what i have, executioner adds no additional break points at havoc 35+ on my build, where as i can still screen wipe everything at Havoc 35+ with shredders + uncanny
Cool build! Sorry if I missed a point, but why chainaxe? Rule of cool? I guess, why not dueling sword like every other "meta" build out there :P
Does it synergize with the other choices some how?
Yeh Pretty much rule of cool, but it is no slouch, the biggest thing that benefits this build is opportunist (mentioned in my Unlocking Grenade Vet video)
UNLIKE skullcrusher which isn't applied by grenades or shout (the stagger) opportunist gains access to the rending as long as the enemy is staggered, so my grenade initial damage staggers then MOST of the bleed ticks also benefit, get a double nade/twin blast and you can nuke a room before they even move, that is the primary reason, opportunist works really well, and isn't required to be in melee, Also if you take slaughterer, your grenades DO benefit from the bonus power (damage aspect) both initial damage and bleed
but most definitely i take my shovel when i want to win or my combat knife, just a personal preference, in my IN-DEPTH Grenade Vet video, i do mention/concede DS is the go to havoc meta weapon for most, it's easy and very effective, but i don't feel the need to, to get my wins and again i just prefer other things, hence why the bolt pistol over plasma as well, you can't be a grenade vet without lethal proximity + Grenade Tinkerer for the biggest booms :)
if you want a full break down on weapons and check out my in-depth guide most/all of my videos have chapters and you can go to the weapon discussion :) the shockmaul also works for the same reason the chain axe does due to opportunist and other things,
Thanks for stopping by, God bless and good luck amigo !
@@babayagagaming123 appreciate it! really interesting point about stagger!
and do you know if the explosion bonus on the bolt pistol blessing activates even when you aren't holding the pistol?
going to try this but putting the 3 points you used for the +1 grenade carry and the 20% double grenade into the right tree to get to desperado
@@piratepat44 Absolutely they do ! on my first video on the channel its a quick 30 second video to show that it does (i have rashad in hand) and used that to post to reddit for my guide originally,
and sounds good to me ! i do recommend if you can fit it, twin blast the higher difficulty you go will be one of the highest value nodes in the tree don't underestimate especially with how many grenades you throw !
and if you like weapon specialist/prefer more crit orientated builds, shameless plug again but check that IN-DEPTH grenade guide i have, go to the "Alternative Talent Tree" Chapter and you will find my preferred/optimised weapon specialist build for when i take reciprocity/desperado