I feel very uncomfortable with this whole preferred pronouns. What do I say instead? I don’t want to comply with this ideology, but at the same time I don’t want to make people uncomfortable because I didn’t put my preferred pronouns when everyone else did. I really dislike how schools are forcing this onto students.
My personal solution would be to use the individual’s name. If they ask for my pronouns, I would just say “no thanks” and leave it there. Thank God I haven’t yet had to put this into practice, but I work with younger people and fear that the day is coming sooner rather than later.
This is really helpful. Recently, I had gotten into a debate over a video posted on my story with a close friend of mine. At the end of the debate, she got upset at me for not using her preferred pronouns ever since she announced them. I told her how I couldn't because of my faith and how I didn't want to lie to her about who she really was. She doesn't understand sadly and decided to drop the debate altogether. It hurt me, but I knew I had to stand my ground and I hope she knows I'm doing it because I care for her.
Thank you so much for the video. I teach middle school math and I work for a school system that requires teachers to use a students preferred name and preferred pronouns. If I have a student who has a different name or pronouns, I will call them by their chosen name (since students choose nicknames for themselves all the time) and just never use any pronouns with them (referring to them by name or "you" etc.). Would you think this is compatible with the church teaching?
I identify as non binary and prefer to be called they them... when I'm referred to as female she her I can't bear...I want to tear my skin off...I have a history of severe self harm and anorexia connected with my attempts to be female... and so much sexual trauma...I know that being non binary is not God's best... but I can't deal with life as a woman... what do I do? I yearn to live the carmelite way, to consecrate my life to Jesus and Mary, but I feel I will never qualify because of this...my priest says God made me this easy... I've had so much therapy for trauma I can't cope with any more... all I seem able to do is accept my broken identity and hope that I can give my life as an offering to my Lord as I am... please give me wisdom about this...my catholic faith is everything to me ... thanks so much
Call that kid by their last name, that is part of their legal name, but you do not need to call that person by a nick name that does not correspond to their biological sex-gender, nor his real name which could offend him or her, and when referring to him or hem in front of him towards him you can use You (neutral), his or her last name and when he or she is away, you can use his or her last name if it's withing the school. Outside you may refer to him or her by his or her last name and by the correct pronoun according to his or her real biological sex/gender.
@@allgeography1gaming343 identify as a human being and as a child of God, remember He is never wrong, do not follow modern endoctrinations that wants to separate you from God. He loved you even before He created you. If He made you xx Woman, that is what you are, learn to love and accept yourself as God created you. If people want you to dress, talk, call yourself different than what you want, and do not respect you, than, distance yourself from them. You are beautiful to the eyes of God. Learn to love yourself as he does.
GOD did not create you by mistake. YOU ARE HIS. Ask him yo help you HEAL and FORGIVE. Is a long journey but is worth it. At the end you will love the skin you are in❤ @@allgeography1gaming343
Can you say what you believe the correct term to call someone who is intersex (i.e. having both masculine and feminine reproductive organs or secondary sex characteristics, having chromosomes not corresponding with either XX or XY, a group consisting of 1.7% of the world’s population) would be? If you believe that someone should be referred to with pronouns reflecting their physical body and someone does not biologically fit the definition of “male” or “female”, what are they to be referred to as?
They are historically referred to as third sex, hermaphrodite.....they are still only one person and are biologically privileged to choose to be referred to as male, female or mixed but use of they is plural and refers to more than one.... preferred pronouns usage are illogical and far from biblical in every way. No to personal preferred pronouns.
Great video! Could you do a video on how to respond when someone asks what your preferred pronouns are? I’ve been in situations where I’m asked, and I don’t know how to respond effectively.
I would honestly reply "guess." If they guess the pronouns which match your sex, you can ask why they assumed that. If they aren't sure or guess something else, you can ask why. Either way can lead into a productive conversation. Obviously how you respond should be friendly. Don't say "guess" in a condescending or confrontational tone. Maybe you say "well I'm curious, what do you think?" The point is to draw out what they think and why.
Fine for the example guy in video gave, but in practical terms people want to know what to do. It sounds like you are saying to go along with it and comply to the bullying demands with the euphemistic characterization of being patient with their error. I know it's a tough situation, but if we are going to address it, let's do that. We are not in a therapeutic relationship w the average trans person that demands we use their false pronouns, so it feels like he just should come out and say comply. I get the difference, his example just doesn't apply in the school, with a teacher, co-worker, etc, not at least in most cases.
as a pacifist linguist it is funny to see how deeply some people care about a couple of letters. Especially in a language that has so little gender in it.
Religion is complex. I believe that God cares a lot more about how we treat one another than winning a debate over what pronouns are correct. Christ ate with sinners, invited them to the table. It is perhaps more useful to treat others with respect and love, and help them reflect. If you feel angered about someone asking to be called a different pronoun (not demanding, but requesting), you need to do some reflecting yourself. I don’t agree with their view, but I don’t get angry when a flat earther says the world is flat. There’s usually a lot (mostly political) baggage with the topic. So before jumping to a stance one way or the other, reflection is good.
I want to begin with my love of everything I’ve seen from you. You’ve opened my mind in so many ways that I am so grateful for. However, I think that this issue is more complicated than you’ve presented. I have a M to F trans sister. I disagree with her and want her to realize how she’s just covering the pain instead of addressing it. However, if I don’t call her by her/she/her new name, I would never be allowed to speak to her or my older brother again and would lose the siblings that are so dear to me. She is 100% not interested in God, but if I’m still around I can guide her in the way of Christ without all of the “baggage”.
It's sounds like you don't want to be part of her identity and she doesn't want to be part of your religion. I think you have more baggage than she does. Anyone can change their name but if it bothers you or gets confusing with the pronouns, simply avoid all pronouns. Simple solution. Personally I think God is a man-made fakery. You probably think the same about how one wants to present. However most transgender people induce a second puberty that is real so they are really not their former sex but only somewhat their target sex. Respect is very difficult but when civil rights are being debated, the person who's rights are being challenged can only hold their own if they win. If they lose, they lose. So it's in their interest to not engage with "I want to have a conversation" which is Matt Walsh's second favorite line. He's still asking what a woman is and if I ever meet him I'll give him Dizzy Gillespie's response to, what is jazz. If you have to ask, you'll never know!
We worship un Spirit and in Truth, Jesus came from the Father full of Grace and Truth. I understand the distress of this, it is so sad society has come to this place. My sister wont speak to me even though I love her but I pray for her daily and I know that God is working. God bless
Does a Catholic use the bible? Romans :7 For we don’t live for ourselves or die for ourselves. 8 If we live, it’s to honor the Lord. And if we die, it’s to honor the Lord. So whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 Christ died and rose again for this very purpose-to be Lord both of the living and of the dead. 10 So why do you condemn another believer[a]? Why do you look down on another believer? Remember, we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. 11 For the Scriptures say, “‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bend to me, and every tongue will declare allegiance to God.[b]’” 12 Yes, each of us will give a personal account to God. 13 So let’s stop condemning each other. Decide instead to live in such a way that you will not cause another believer to stumble and fall. When anyone choses to be hurtful - prideful (wont even go to all the verses on pride) - from a stance that it is from the word... these things cause people to fall away from Christ.... as a minimum fall away from the Church... If a person believes (as you can read in the rest of Romans) it is a great sin to cause another to fall away... and is this the hill you want to fight on.... a Pronoun.... Language is there to help make sense of our world - Your name you were given is not up for debate? What if i want to call you Billy? would that be disrespectful? How about reading the fall of Babylon.... and he confused their language.... Respect.... How about the story where Jesus says "give to Cesar what belongs to Cesar"... does a name and a pronoun belong to you? or the person asking you?
The real problem with this approach, however, is that you seldom fully know what a person's sex is. Sure, a person can "appear clearly" as a man but they may actually genetically be a woman. They're are genetic and hormonal diseases out that there that cause confusion in both the person who has it and to those around them. To me, the best approach is a mix of your story used in your book. It's best to use a preferred pronoun with a stranger and only approach the topic of morality if your relationship warrants it. For example, with my best friend, although she is s Christian and married she is using birth control. Since I'm her best friend, I know my relationship is appropriate enough to discuss the logical dissonance in this decision. Additionally, i told her that I would only bring this up once and not badger her on it. I said I cannot see a grevious sin like this and not say anything, because you are my best friend, and I love you. She totally understood and we had a good discussion from it. But if I had brought this up to a stranger, it would almost always be completely inappropriate and ineffective
I have a situation that is a bit more complicated to address, and it would love to hear guidance on it. I'll get right to it. I have a friend who has the children. Two girls and one boy. One girl is in college and the other two are twins. The boy twin feels that he identifies as female and now they are going through the transition process to chemically alter his genetics and block male puberty from progressing. I cannot agree with this but I don't really go into conversation about it with my friend, is a subject I don't get into. When she talks about that child I don't refer to pronouns, I refer to the nickname that he's adopted which is not noticeably male or female. I will catch myself if I start to say "he or him" and quickly refer to the nickname because I don't want to have a falling out or make them feel unloved. The family has had many hardships over the years and I value them as God's children. They are Jewish and I talk about Jesus to them often because I want them to learn about Him as the loving God, not some mislead peacher that they've been taught. I don't encourage a friendship with my child and hers although they are on the same grade and we're close before this change began to occur. I tell my child to show kindness always and be friendly in school but when referring to the child, to use the nickname instead of the pronouns that they want. I don't want my daughter to grow up thinking it's ok to change what God created but I don't want her to be rude; It's a very fine line and nowadays everyone's offended with anything. Any suggestion on how to address this among kids. These are 12-13 year olds. This is such a tender age. Please help.
The big challange with this argument (not bringing in religion) is this idea of right and wrong... do you speed when driving ?? do you keep doing it? but bringing in "God" is how much people want to preach on what God created.... so ... did God make mistakes with children with deformities? or with physical disabilities? GOd doesnt make mistakes? What about when births that result in childs death or mothers death in the birthing process? I think humans are so caught up in culture and physical... so caught up in sex... that if anything goes against what they understand its wrong... What about Slavery in the Bible... oh so many verses of being a good slave and good master... or all the verses of the less than women are??? Maybe Jesus came to teach it is not our place to judge - that we are supposed to love... I think your biggest concern is to help your daughter understand good... not "right" or "wrong"... and i bet if you teach Love and your relationship with God... she will also find her way... just my thoughts
@@Jasminestealth1 you're speaking about moral relativism here which the Catholic church is opposed to. Objective truth exists and aiding others in their denial of Objective truth and reality is harmful to everyone, especially the individual in denial. Our bodies aren't meant to be avatars. And when we treat them as such, we harm ourselves. We are made in the image of God and whatever suffering he gives through our bodies is meant for growth and will help us achieve holiness if we let it. I have had plastic surgery so I understand the desire to be what you are not, but i now realize if everyone is as selfish as I am, we get to this place where we have no order. In the absence of order, we will all go crazy, which is what is currently happening. The fact that parents are helping children mutilate their selves should be enough to make us stop this madness but people like me helped us get here. I hope you can follow this transgendrism ideology to its horrible conclusion (things like reproductive equity, and animal human hybrids come to mind) and see this is not healthy for anyone.
@@lahair5751 wow- a lot to unpack in your views ... and yes I think they are views ... let's start with what the Catholic Church is against - firstly know where in the word does it speak to a blind following of "A church" ... first seek him! Secondly do some real history on the institution of the Catholic Church and how much of there teachings have changed and there internal struggles over the current pope ... next - in his image - God "the father" created women so to be in that space is... Godly - next is God has given us the ability of the medical understanding to step in when we are born in this fallen world. The word speaks to not worshiping the flesh - one argument from that would say that justifies not "mutilating " it... your words... I counter with the idea it's the complete opposite , that all those fighting against transition and medical intervention are the ones worshiping the flesh... ask and it shall be given to you.. knock and the door will be opened... just some thoughts as we take a very personal journey and present it in a way that adds to the suffering and more then likely will cause people to fall away from Gods love , not bring them closer
@Jasminestealth1 those are different things. Blocking natural hormones and destroying body parts is different then being born with birth deffects. At a young age children tend to change their minds frequently, and making irreversible changes and believing it's possible to change a sex is misleading and detrimental to child's health and soul. There is no hate. It's a big lie trap where many young people are trapped. And if everyone around keeps telling lie is truth, you will start believing. But someone needs to tell, it's impossible to change sex. Gender ideology is a cruel game with people lives. I can imagine myself with curly hair, even do perm, but whatever will be growing from my head will be stright hair no matter what I do. Can you change the color of your hair? You can, but what will be growing out will be your natural color. Same with sex. It is hardcoded.
I will use whatever name a person gives me, but I don't use pronouns contrary to someone's biological sex. If someone really struggles with their mental health and cannot, or for some other reason I cannot use their real pronouns, I do not use pronouns at all. Instead, I just use their name.
Nothing wrong with trying to patiently give this person a chance……but don’t think most cases turn out like the one you described. At a certain point you have to realize playing into their delusional is not showing love. Gods truth is love.
I am Catholic and I am a Me. My pronouns: Me, Myself, and I. I prefer to be referred to by my first name which happens to be the same name as Jesus' mother.
Could you please give us an idea as to what my kids should answer to their friends and teachers( catholic school) when they call them homophobic for not agreeing with homosexuality?
Homophobic (and transphobic) are made-up words by the liberal elite to elicit an emotional response. I recommend sticking to reason and facts when replying to those who accuse you of being one of these words.
If you love another you never ever honor their delusions, as that man who presented himself as a woman was completely and utterly delusional about his DNA and what it was; if you love him as you ought, you condemn the delusion by addressing him as a him in that kind of case.
You're 3:30 mark is on point of the way I would approach the issue. Which is along the the lines of guiding to the truth. Honestly, sometimes it is challenging not to share that you are christian on the onset, but letting that be revealed similarly over time through living and listening in christian virtue.
i'm sorry, but I have a concern. How are you always going to judge if someone is a male or female (by birth) SOLELY by LOOKING at them? some people that are of the female sex may have more "masculine" features or present more "masculine" and vice versa. for example, i have a flatter chest and a strong set jaw instead of dainty features, if i didn't have long hair and wear "girly" outfits i can look androgenous. i have gotten questions before asking if i am transgender, eventhough i was assigned female at birth. you haven't seen what is inside people's pants NOR HAVE YOU SEEN A KARYOGRAM OF THEIR CHROMOSOMES. Are you telling me you're all-knowing and know what pronouns YOU should give them? that seems preseumptious, not to mention rude. in my opinion just because you don't believe in something, you should still respect other people's beliefs. hence, i think they know best what pronoun they have rather than YOU being the judge of whether they are male or female by just looking at their apperance.
@@helloman1051 you didn’t listen. She specifically mentioned non transgender people who are born one sex but look like the other due to their facial features, not transitioning or identifying as anything different.
In the modern world, and in younger circles, pronouns often are meant to describe not the body but rather describe one's felt gender identity. This is a HUGE, crucial point because what pronouns are honest depends on whether they are supposed to correspond to felt gender identity or the body. If pronouns are meant to describe the body, it is dishonest to use pronouns which correspond to one's felt gender identity. But if pronouns are meant to describe one's felt gender identity, it is in fact dishonest to use pronouns which correspond to the body. We might prefer that the modern English language use pronouns to refer to the body. But it is not inherently wrong to use pronouns to describe identity. And we need to be aware that the English language is rapidly shifting towards using pronouns to describe felt gender identity and adjust our ideas of what pronouns are honest accordingly. The complexity and difficulty comes in when you're in a mixed group, where some people are using pronouns to describe the body and some people are using pronouns to describe identity.
This is a post modernists take on English language that goes back to language deconstruction which started in the 1400s and is rooted in philosophy. Language used to correspond directly to meaning. We should communicate truth. Truth would be using pronouns which match one's gender which correspond to one's genitals. Any aberration of one's genitals that isnt obviously male or female is a medical condition. We shouldnt construct language usage around a medical condition, but around meaning.
To facilitate this abnormal behavior.."error".. is to be strong in faith knowing God's truth ...one that understands truth can facilitate one in error building trust in the Lord ... The evil one will convince many into error .. not all brothers and sisters will be strong ...and in turn become caught in the devil's lies ..instead of facilitating a truth ..one in error may lead one into error...the struggle is real .. the fight of good vs evil has many outcomes...why we should be close to God by going to church go to confession fast and pray ..and in truth ..know God is with us ..always ..so as to reach out to those that live in error...Amen.
Does this person have advanced degree in medicine, psychology, anthropology, sociology…??? Yeah… that’s what I thought. Oh, and by the way, the people in the Bible thought slavery was cool, women were property, and the Earth was flat.
Names are a socially cobstacted thing. Naomi is a gender neutral Japanese name. At the same time Ali is an Arabic male name and Alley is a female English name both are pronounced the same. Shinya is a Japanese male name while to many people it sounds like a western female name.
@@RhinoAg Shinya's point is that names of a person is a social construct. Do you know how people say, "Gender is a social construct?" Same principle here but in-name. As for my response, I would say: No, it's not a social construct. There's a reason why in the Bible that changing names is a significant moment like Abram to Abraham and Simon to Peter. If it is just a social construct, then such significance should on it should not be too dramatic. Furthermore, if LORD Jesus Christ goes by the name Jesus, and if God was called YHWH, and that we should not take Lord's name in vain, is not only a hard proof that names is not a social construct of little importance, if even the Divine God take it seriously, then we should as well.
Those are mentaly sick peopel fighting to be accepted 😔 And we shouldn't judge them because we all have our problems. But forcing everyone to call me Ma'am when im clearly a "Man" is violence over them ...
There are languages out there like Hungarian that have gender neutral pronouns. It's also common in Japan for people to go by opposite sex pronouns in informal situations.
I can think of some "preferred pronouns" that are technically illegal in this republic: direct result: the only pronouns that are to be used are traditional ones derived solely from one's anatomy and cell chemistry. There's only one neuter pronoun that is singular: "It" and that's highly insulting to be used for any self-aware being; any other neuter pronoun is plural, and thus irrelevant to use for any individual... now "you" is a valid pronoun for a single individual that's neuter; here's the problem: "Hey you" is also highly insulting, and rather rude. In short, the only way to refer to anyone is as "he" or "she" due to their anatomy, as individuals.
Not trying to offend but the singular they is like, a Thing. It exists, and has even been used by Shakespeare and is correct. Think of when you don't know a person's gender, for example: Let's say my friend hasn't told me anything about a new friend they made, I would ask "what is their name?" or "who are they?" it is also much quicker and less clunky than saying "what is his or her name?" and "who is he or she?"
@@franz_makes_art403 No, there's no singular they; they is always in the plural; however: "That" is the singular form. Would you really want to be thought of as a mere "It"? If so, then using such a term does fit. However, the third paragraph's argument is valid... and if in doubt, use the masculine about anyone- and you won't go wrong.
If you believe in reality or even biology, you wouldn't believe that someone could be born of a virgin, walk on water, and rise from the dead after 30 minutes. If you believe Genesis, the earth sciences, chemistry of carbon dating , and evolutionary biology all need to be rewritten and this coming from someone who isn't in that field. Give me a break. Avoid the pronouns! Simple solution!
The great tragedy is a degeneration of human lives due to contraception, birth control, abortion, and all the conjugal variances outside of the scope of a man, a woman, and marriage. And having fewer children. The degeneration of generations of human lives creates a gap, and an abyss. This abyss is what people are sinking into, and try to cling to each other to fill the gap. Or at least trying to keep humanity from falling into it. However, the variances of conjugal actions outside of a man, a woman, and marriage, cannot regenerate to make up for that gap. Only a man, woman, marriage, and giving life to as many children as they can possibly have and take care, can regenerate. This missing generation of children has produced an identity crisis of confusion because of it. That is why pronouns are being used. To blind themselves of that abyss. To believe humanity is okay, while their generations and descendants fade away. It is essentially a man made extinction of his own species. As Elon Musk said, no one should mourn the Unborn. The problem is people are not having kids. How is it he gets Humane Vitae? And he is not Catholic.
What’s your name and preferred pronouns? “I’m John, I’m not using pronouns (in that regard), you can refer me directly as John no problem” that’s it - ty, bye now see you at mass tomorrow
This "god-given sexual identity" of which you speak is NOT an identity, but is corporeal fact which itself is much more complicated than you appear to believe. Human sexuality as stated by you is a "god-given identity"; a statement so blithely spoken as if to state god gave us sex, so why question anything about it? Human sex is comprised of at least five distinct sexual characteristics (gonadal sex and chromosomal sex being two of them) and each one of these can and do vary from person to person. There is no such thing as 100% male or female. Take one sex characteristic - chromosomal sex, the one everyone is familiar with. It too is a complex set of variables that usually end up XX or XY - but not always. I believe you should avail yourself of study regarding the complexities of human sex characteristics, for it is that "not always" of which I speak. I do not care whether you believe your god or gods made us the way we are. We are all made different, no one any more or less than anyone else. If you have a problem with that philosophy, then perhaps yours is not so understanding, not so accepting, not as Christian as you would lead us to believe you espouse. Understand? Trans kids exist - I know because I work with, help and mentor vulnerable sector trans kids. They exist and are real. Gender identity is a proven reality and being transgender is a scientifically proven Natural Human Condition. Support trans kids or leave them TF alone. Pls.
Detrasitioners exist too. I would recomend you to see their point of view, as their choices were not based on religion but internal reflections, from youngers to old.
I absolutely do acknowledge detrans folk. As I work and volunteer with vulnerable sector trans kids I know for certain that a small percentage put off transitioning for any number of reasons. We would never try to talk them out of that. Moreover, stats show that approx 60 -70 percent of detrans folk transition later on in life when it's better for them. I hope this helps. @@rubemartur8239
I feel very uncomfortable with this whole preferred pronouns. What do I say instead? I don’t want to comply with this ideology, but at the same time I don’t want to make people uncomfortable because I didn’t put my preferred pronouns when everyone else did. I really dislike how schools are forcing this onto students.
My personal solution would be to use the individual’s name. If they ask for my pronouns, I would just say “no thanks” and leave it there. Thank God I haven’t yet had to put this into practice, but I work with younger people and fear that the day is coming sooner rather than later.
Say, "I have no preferred pronouns."
This is really helpful. Recently, I had gotten into a debate over a video posted on my story with a close friend of mine. At the end of the debate, she got upset at me for not using her preferred pronouns ever since she announced them. I told her how I couldn't because of my faith and how I didn't want to lie to her about who she really was. She doesn't understand sadly and decided to drop the debate altogether. It hurt me, but I knew I had to stand my ground and I hope she knows I'm doing it because I care for her.
My pronouns are He/Is Risen.
Thank you so much for the video. I teach middle school math and I work for a school system that requires teachers to use a students preferred name and preferred pronouns. If I have a student who has a different name or pronouns, I will call them by their chosen name (since students choose nicknames for themselves all the time) and just never use any pronouns with them (referring to them by name or "you" etc.). Would you think this is compatible with the church teaching?
I think it is. You are not contributing to the unchristian ideology of "changing genders"
I identify as non binary and prefer to be called they them... when I'm referred to as female she her I can't bear...I want to tear my skin off...I have a history of severe self harm and anorexia connected with my attempts to be female... and so much sexual trauma...I know that being non binary is not God's best... but I can't deal with life as a woman... what do I do? I yearn to live the carmelite way, to consecrate my life to Jesus and Mary, but I feel I will never qualify because of this...my priest says God made me this easy... I've had so much therapy for trauma I can't cope with any more... all I seem able to do is accept my broken identity and hope that I can give my life as an offering to my Lord as I am... please give me wisdom about this...my catholic faith is everything to me ... thanks so much
Call that kid by their last name, that is part of their legal name, but you do not need to call that person by a nick name that does not correspond to their biological sex-gender, nor his real name which could offend him or her, and when referring to him or hem in front of him towards him you can use You (neutral), his or her last name and when he or she is away, you can use his or her last name if it's withing the school. Outside you may refer to him or her by his or her last name and by the correct pronoun according to his or her real biological sex/gender.
@@allgeography1gaming343 identify as a human being and as a child of God, remember He is never wrong, do not follow modern endoctrinations that wants to separate you from God. He loved you even before He created you. If He made you xx Woman, that is what you are, learn to love and accept yourself as God created you. If people want you to dress, talk, call yourself different than what you want, and do not respect you, than, distance yourself from them.
You are beautiful to the eyes of God. Learn to love yourself as he does.
GOD did not create you by mistake. YOU ARE HIS. Ask him yo help you HEAL and FORGIVE. Is a long journey but is worth it. At the end you will love the skin you are in❤ @@allgeography1gaming343
Can you say what you believe the correct term to call someone who is intersex (i.e. having both masculine and feminine reproductive organs or secondary sex characteristics, having chromosomes not corresponding with either XX or XY, a group consisting of 1.7% of the world’s population) would be? If you believe that someone should be referred to with pronouns reflecting their physical body and someone does not biologically fit the definition of “male” or “female”, what are they to be referred to as?
They are historically referred to as third sex, hermaphrodite.....they are still only one person and are biologically privileged to choose to be referred to as male, female or mixed but use of they is plural and refers to more than one.... preferred pronouns usage are illogical and far from biblical in every way. No to personal preferred pronouns.
There isn’t really any of those who do not have a more dominant gender.
Great video! Thank you for this. Well said, concise, spoken clearly and with love. God bless!
Great video! Could you do a video on how to respond when someone asks what your preferred pronouns are? I’ve been in situations where I’m asked, and I don’t know how to respond effectively.
Same
I would honestly reply "guess." If they guess the pronouns which match your sex, you can ask why they assumed that. If they aren't sure or guess something else, you can ask why. Either way can lead into a productive conversation. Obviously how you respond should be friendly. Don't say "guess" in a condescending or confrontational tone. Maybe you say "well I'm curious, what do you think?" The point is to draw out what they think and why.
if someone asks what you like to be called just tell them - its not complicated
Pronoun? My name is John, I am a man, obviously, so he is a perfect match hahaha 🤣
Fine for the example guy in video gave, but in practical terms people want to know what to do. It sounds like you are saying to go along with it and comply to the bullying demands with the euphemistic characterization of being patient with their error. I know it's a tough situation, but if we are going to address it, let's do that. We are not in a therapeutic relationship w the average trans person that demands we use their false pronouns, so it feels like he just should come out and say comply. I get the difference, his example just doesn't apply in the school, with a teacher, co-worker, etc, not at least in most cases.
as a pacifist linguist it is funny to see how deeply some people care about a couple of letters. Especially in a language that has so little gender in it.
Reality is important
The ones who care so much are the ones who wanna make it a crime to “misgender” someone… smh
The problem now is that you can be sued for "misgendering" someone
oh if we could sue anyone just for be deliberately rude......
They never win....
@@rc3088 A trans guy won a lawsuit for being misgendered.
@@theadventurer6480 don’t fear them. Even if they sue you, even if they win, stand your ground. God is in control.
Religion is complex. I believe that God cares a lot more about how we treat one another than winning a debate over what pronouns are correct. Christ ate with sinners, invited them to the table. It is perhaps more useful to treat others with respect and love, and help them reflect. If you feel angered about someone asking to be called a different pronoun (not demanding, but requesting), you need to do some reflecting yourself. I don’t agree with their view, but I don’t get angry when a flat earther says the world is flat. There’s usually a lot (mostly political) baggage with the topic. So before jumping to a stance one way or the other, reflection is good.
I want to begin with my love of everything I’ve seen from you. You’ve opened my mind in so many ways that I am so grateful for. However, I think that this issue is more complicated than you’ve presented. I have a M to F trans sister. I disagree with her and want her to realize how she’s just covering the pain instead of addressing it. However, if I don’t call her by her/she/her new name, I would never be allowed to speak to her or my older brother again and would lose the siblings that are so dear to me. She is 100% not interested in God, but if I’m still around I can guide her in the way of Christ without all of the “baggage”.
The Holy Spirit is the only one who can lead her out of her selfish game.
Male to female? So your brother then
It's sounds like you don't want to be part of her identity and she doesn't want to be part of your religion. I think you have more baggage than she does. Anyone can change their name but if it bothers you or gets confusing with the pronouns, simply avoid all pronouns. Simple solution. Personally I think God is a man-made fakery. You probably think the same about how one wants to present. However most transgender people induce a second puberty that is real so they are really not their former sex but only somewhat their target sex.
Respect is very difficult but when civil rights are being debated, the person who's rights are being challenged can only hold their own if they win. If they lose, they lose. So it's in their interest to not engage with "I want to have a conversation" which is Matt Walsh's second favorite line. He's still asking what a woman is and if I ever meet him I'll give him Dizzy Gillespie's response to, what is jazz. If you have to ask, you'll never know!
We worship un Spirit and in Truth, Jesus came from the Father full of Grace and Truth. I understand the distress of this, it is so sad society has come to this place. My sister wont speak to me even though I love her but I pray for her daily and I know that God is working. God bless
Does a Catholic use the bible? Romans :7 For we don’t live for ourselves or die for ourselves. 8 If we live, it’s to honor the Lord. And if we die, it’s to honor the Lord. So whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 Christ died and rose again for this very purpose-to be Lord both of the living and of the dead.
10 So why do you condemn another believer[a]? Why do you look down on another believer? Remember, we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. 11 For the Scriptures say,
“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,
‘every knee will bend to me,
and every tongue will declare allegiance to God.[b]’”
12 Yes, each of us will give a personal account to God. 13 So let’s stop condemning each other. Decide instead to live in such a way that you will not cause another believer to stumble and fall.
When anyone choses to be hurtful - prideful (wont even go to all the verses on pride) - from a stance that it is from the word... these things cause people to fall away from Christ.... as a minimum fall away from the Church...
If a person believes (as you can read in the rest of Romans) it is a great sin to cause another to fall away... and is this the hill you want to fight on.... a Pronoun.... Language is there to help make sense of our world - Your name you were given is not up for debate? What if i want to call you Billy? would that be disrespectful? How about reading the fall of Babylon.... and he confused their language.... Respect.... How about the story where Jesus says "give to Cesar what belongs to Cesar"... does a name and a pronoun belong to you? or the person asking you?
Patience is to bear evil, that a good may reasonably cone out of it
The real problem with this approach, however, is that you seldom fully know what a person's sex is. Sure, a person can "appear clearly" as a man but they may actually genetically be a woman. They're are genetic and hormonal diseases out that there that cause confusion in both the person who has it and to those around them.
To me, the best approach is a mix of your story used in your book. It's best to use a preferred pronoun with a stranger and only approach the topic of morality if your relationship warrants it.
For example, with my best friend, although she is s Christian and married she is using birth control. Since I'm her best friend, I know my relationship is appropriate enough to discuss the logical dissonance in this decision. Additionally, i told her that I would only bring this up once and not badger her on it. I said I cannot see a grevious sin like this and not say anything, because you are my best friend, and I love you.
She totally understood and we had a good discussion from it. But if I had brought this up to a stranger, it would almost always be completely inappropriate and ineffective
I have a situation that is a bit more complicated to address, and it would love to hear guidance on it. I'll get right to it. I have a friend who has the children. Two girls and one boy. One girl is in college and the other two are twins. The boy twin feels that he identifies as female and now they are going through the transition process to chemically alter his genetics and block male puberty from progressing. I cannot agree with this but I don't really go into conversation about it with my friend, is a subject I don't get into. When she talks about that child I don't refer to pronouns, I refer to the nickname that he's adopted which is not noticeably male or female. I will catch myself if I start to say "he or him" and quickly refer to the nickname because I don't want to have a falling out or make them feel unloved. The family has had many hardships over the years and I value them as God's children. They are Jewish and I talk about Jesus to them often because I want them to learn about Him as the loving God, not some mislead peacher that they've been taught.
I don't encourage a friendship with my child and hers although they are on the same grade and we're close before this change began to occur. I tell my child to show kindness always and be friendly in school but when referring to the child, to use the nickname instead of the pronouns that they want. I don't want my daughter to grow up thinking it's ok to change what God created but I don't want her to be rude; It's a very fine line and nowadays everyone's offended with anything.
Any suggestion on how to address this among kids. These are 12-13 year olds. This is such a tender age.
Please help.
The big challange with this argument (not bringing in religion) is this idea of right and wrong... do you speed when driving ?? do you keep doing it? but bringing in "God" is how much people want to preach on what God created.... so ... did God make mistakes with children with deformities? or with physical disabilities? GOd doesnt make mistakes? What about when births that result in childs death or mothers death in the birthing process? I think humans are so caught up in culture and physical... so caught up in sex... that if anything goes against what they understand its wrong... What about Slavery in the Bible... oh so many verses of being a good slave and good master... or all the verses of the less than women are??? Maybe Jesus came to teach it is not our place to judge - that we are supposed to love... I think your biggest concern is to help your daughter understand good... not "right" or "wrong"... and i bet if you teach Love and your relationship with God... she will also find her way... just my thoughts
@@Jasminestealth1 you're speaking about moral relativism here which the Catholic church is opposed to. Objective truth exists and aiding others in their denial of Objective truth and reality is harmful to everyone, especially the individual in denial.
Our bodies aren't meant to be avatars. And when we treat them as such, we harm ourselves. We are made in the image of God and whatever suffering he gives through our bodies is meant for growth and will help us achieve holiness if we let it. I have had plastic surgery so I understand the desire to be what you are not, but i now realize if everyone is as selfish as I am, we get to this place where we have no order. In the absence of order, we will all go crazy, which is what is currently happening. The fact that parents are helping children mutilate their selves should be enough to make us stop this madness but people like me helped us get here. I hope you can follow this transgendrism ideology to its horrible conclusion (things like reproductive equity, and animal human hybrids come to mind) and see this is not healthy for anyone.
@@lahair5751 wow- a lot to unpack in your views ... and yes I think they are views ... let's start with what the Catholic Church is against - firstly know where in the word does it speak to a blind following of "A church" ... first seek him! Secondly do some real history on the institution of the Catholic Church and how much of there teachings have changed and there internal struggles over the current pope ... next - in his image - God "the father" created women so to be in that space is... Godly - next is God has given us the ability of the medical understanding to step in when we are born in this fallen world. The word speaks to not worshiping the flesh - one argument from that would say that justifies not "mutilating " it... your words... I counter with the idea it's the complete opposite , that all those fighting against transition and medical intervention are the ones worshiping the flesh... ask and it shall be given to you.. knock and the door will be opened... just some thoughts as we take a very personal journey and present it in a way that adds to the suffering and more then likely will cause people to fall away from Gods love , not bring them closer
@Jasminestealth1 those are different things. Blocking natural hormones and destroying body parts is different then being born with birth deffects. At a young age children tend to change their minds frequently, and making irreversible changes and believing it's possible to change a sex is misleading and detrimental to child's health and soul. There is no hate. It's a big lie trap where many young people are trapped. And if everyone around keeps telling lie is truth, you will start believing. But someone needs to tell, it's impossible to change sex. Gender ideology is a cruel game with people lives. I can imagine myself with curly hair, even do perm, but whatever will be growing from my head will be stright hair no matter what I do. Can you change the color of your hair? You can, but what will be growing out will be your natural color. Same with sex. It is hardcoded.
I will use whatever name a person gives me, but I don't use pronouns contrary to someone's biological sex. If someone really struggles with their mental health and cannot, or for some other reason I cannot use their real pronouns, I do not use pronouns at all. Instead, I just use their name.
Nothing wrong with trying to patiently give this person a chance……but don’t think most cases turn out like the one you described. At a certain point you have to realize playing into their delusional is not showing love. Gods truth is love.
I am Catholic and I am a Me. My pronouns: Me, Myself, and I. I prefer to be referred to by my first name which happens to be the same name as Jesus' mother.
Could you please give us an idea as to what my kids should answer to their friends and teachers( catholic school) when they call them homophobic for not agreeing with homosexuality?
How about "I am not afraid OF homosexuals, I am afraid FOR them!"
Homophobic (and transphobic) are made-up words by the liberal elite to elicit an emotional response. I recommend sticking to reason and facts when replying to those who accuse you of being one of these words.
Your kids need to say, "You need to go to confession for committing slander."
If you love another you never ever honor their delusions, as that man who presented himself as a woman was completely and utterly delusional about his DNA and what it was; if you love him as you ought, you condemn the delusion by addressing him as a him in that kind of case.
You're 3:30 mark is on point of the way I would approach the issue. Which is along the the lines of guiding to the truth. Honestly, sometimes it is challenging not to share that you are christian on the onset, but letting that be revealed similarly over time through living and listening in christian virtue.
No, I let all know I will not use their PPs because I refuse to play pretend with grown-ups.
Glory to God!
Really inspiring Christopher. Thanks for sharing such practical wisdom and insight
Very good advice
Glad it was helpful!
Let me challenge your error. What if you were wrong?
i'm sorry, but I have a concern. How are you always going to judge if someone is a male or female (by birth) SOLELY by LOOKING at them? some people that are of the female sex may have more "masculine" features or present more "masculine" and vice versa. for example, i have a flatter chest and a strong set jaw instead of dainty features, if i didn't have long hair and wear "girly" outfits i can look androgenous. i have gotten questions before asking if i am transgender, eventhough i was assigned female at birth. you haven't seen what is inside people's pants NOR HAVE YOU SEEN A KARYOGRAM OF THEIR CHROMOSOMES. Are you telling me you're all-knowing and know what pronouns YOU should give them? that seems preseumptious, not to mention rude. in my opinion just because you don't believe in something, you should still respect other people's beliefs. hence, i think they know best what pronoun they have rather than YOU being the judge of whether they are male or female by just looking at their apperance.
@@helloman1051 you didn’t listen. She specifically mentioned non transgender people who are born one sex but look like the other due to their facial features, not transitioning or identifying as anything different.
I'm sorry for you. You are so confused and it isn't your fault.
Awesome video, that is the approach many should take, love and care is more important in this challenging situation
In the modern world, and in younger circles, pronouns often are meant to describe not the body but rather describe one's felt gender identity. This is a HUGE, crucial point because what pronouns are honest depends on whether they are supposed to correspond to felt gender identity or the body. If pronouns are meant to describe the body, it is dishonest to use pronouns which correspond to one's felt gender identity. But if pronouns are meant to describe one's felt gender identity, it is in fact dishonest to use pronouns which correspond to the body.
We might prefer that the modern English language use pronouns to refer to the body. But it is not inherently wrong to use pronouns to describe identity. And we need to be aware that the English language is rapidly shifting towards using pronouns to describe felt gender identity and adjust our ideas of what pronouns are honest accordingly.
The complexity and difficulty comes in when you're in a mixed group, where some people are using pronouns to describe the body and some people are using pronouns to describe identity.
This is a post modernists take on English language that goes back to language deconstruction which started in the 1400s and is rooted in philosophy. Language used to correspond directly to meaning. We should communicate truth. Truth would be using pronouns which match one's gender which correspond to one's genitals.
Any aberration of one's genitals that isnt obviously male or female is a medical condition. We shouldnt construct language usage around a medical condition, but around meaning.
To facilitate this abnormal behavior.."error".. is to be strong in faith knowing God's truth ...one that understands truth can facilitate one in error building trust in the Lord ... The evil one will convince many into error .. not all brothers and sisters will be strong ...and in turn become caught in the devil's lies ..instead of facilitating a truth ..one in error may lead one into error...the struggle is real .. the fight of good vs evil has many outcomes...why we should be close to God by going to church go to confession fast and pray ..and in truth ..know God is with us ..always ..so as to reach out to those that live in error...Amen.
Oof why do I torture myself by watching these
The loving, compassionate response is to use the pronouns people prefer, just what Jesus would do.
Does this person have advanced degree in medicine, psychology, anthropology, sociology…??? Yeah… that’s what I thought. Oh, and by the way, the people in the Bible thought slavery was cool, women were property, and the Earth was flat.
In my mind I call them frogs...never had a girlfriend, never will!
Names are a socially cobstacted thing. Naomi is a gender neutral Japanese name. At the same time Ali is an Arabic male name and Alley is a female English name both are pronounced the same. Shinya is a Japanese male name while to many people it sounds like a western female name.
what's your point
@@RhinoAg Shinya's point is that names of a person is a social construct. Do you know how people say, "Gender is a social construct?" Same principle here but in-name.
As for my response, I would say: No, it's not a social construct. There's a reason why in the Bible that changing names is a significant moment like Abram to Abraham and Simon to Peter. If it is just a social construct, then such significance should on it should not be too dramatic.
Furthermore, if LORD Jesus Christ goes by the name Jesus, and if God was called YHWH, and that we should not take Lord's name in vain, is not only a hard proof that names is not a social construct of little importance, if even the Divine God take it seriously, then we should as well.
Those are mentaly sick peopel fighting to be accepted 😔
And we shouldn't judge them because we all have our problems.
But forcing everyone to call me Ma'am when im clearly a "Man" is violence over them ...
There are languages out there like Hungarian that have gender neutral pronouns. It's also common in Japan for people to go by opposite sex pronouns in informal situations.
with respect. that's irrelevant
Yes, also Polish language has it: she is ona, he is on and IT is ONO
I can think of some "preferred pronouns" that are technically illegal in this republic: direct result: the only pronouns that are to be used are traditional ones derived solely from one's anatomy and cell chemistry.
There's only one neuter pronoun that is singular: "It" and that's highly insulting to be used for any self-aware being; any other neuter pronoun is plural, and thus irrelevant to use for any individual... now "you" is a valid pronoun for a single individual that's neuter; here's the problem: "Hey you" is also highly insulting, and rather rude. In short, the only way to refer to anyone is as "he" or "she" due to their anatomy, as individuals.
Not trying to offend but the singular they is like, a Thing. It exists, and has even been used by Shakespeare and is correct.
Think of when you don't know a person's gender, for example:
Let's say my friend hasn't told me anything about a new friend they made, I would ask "what is their name?" or "who are they?"
it is also much quicker and less clunky than saying "what is his or her name?" and "who is he or she?"
@@franz_makes_art403 No, there's no singular they; they is always in the plural; however: "That" is the singular form.
Would you really want to be thought of as a mere "It"? If so, then using such a term does fit.
However, the third paragraph's argument is valid... and if in doubt, use the masculine about anyone- and you won't go wrong.
If they don't like my speech they don't have to talk to me anymore. They want respect but ignore what I believe. Bye bye.
“In Christ there is neither male nor female.” I refer to people with the pronouns they prefer. Whether or not I agree is none of my business.
In Christ you have man and female from the begging of creation
Ilness can be cured don't wory
Jesus took mine and yours illness to the cross
If you believe in reality or even biology, you wouldn't believe that someone could be born of a virgin, walk on water, and rise from the dead after 30 minutes. If you believe Genesis, the earth sciences, chemistry of carbon dating , and evolutionary biology all need to be rewritten and this coming from someone who isn't in that field. Give me a break.
Avoid the pronouns! Simple solution!
Hay, I actually go by a name that doesn't correspond to who I am in a different name. I am a Russian male but Shinya is a Japanese male name.
@panda panda You raciest!
The great tragedy is a degeneration of human lives due to contraception, birth control, abortion, and all the conjugal variances outside of the scope of a man, a woman, and marriage. And having fewer children.
The degeneration of generations of human lives creates a gap, and an abyss. This abyss is what people are sinking into, and try to cling to each other to fill the gap. Or at least trying to keep humanity from falling into it. However, the variances of conjugal actions outside of a man, a woman, and marriage, cannot regenerate to make up for that gap. Only a man, woman, marriage, and giving life to as many children as they can possibly have and take care, can regenerate.
This missing generation of children has produced an identity crisis of confusion because of it. That is why pronouns are being used. To blind themselves of that abyss. To believe humanity is okay, while their generations and descendants fade away.
It is essentially a man made extinction of his own species.
As Elon Musk said, no one should mourn the Unborn. The problem is people are not having kids.
How is it he gets Humane Vitae? And he is not Catholic.
I just walk away from them or dont listen.
Shirt and glasses is serving lgbt
I feel like you are just incorrect.
a feeling isn't an objective evaluation
What’s your name and preferred pronouns? “I’m John, I’m not using pronouns (in that regard), you can refer me directly as John no problem” that’s it - ty, bye now see you at mass tomorrow
Sorry…I speak english.
Pronouns? Just call me Bill
Opinion not fact, nonetheless mid
gnosticism.
Daddy?
This "god-given sexual identity" of which you speak is NOT an identity, but is corporeal fact which itself is much more complicated than you appear to believe. Human sexuality as stated by you is a "god-given identity"; a statement so blithely spoken as if to state god gave us sex, so why question anything about it? Human sex is comprised of at least five distinct sexual characteristics (gonadal sex and chromosomal sex being two of them) and each one of these can and do vary from person to person. There is no such thing as 100% male or female.
Take one sex characteristic - chromosomal sex, the one everyone is familiar with. It too is a complex set of variables that usually end up XX or XY - but not always. I believe you should avail yourself of study regarding the complexities of human sex characteristics, for it is that "not always" of which I speak.
I do not care whether you believe your god or gods made us the way we are. We are all made different, no one any more or less than anyone else. If you have a problem with that philosophy, then perhaps yours is not so understanding, not so accepting, not as Christian as you would lead us to believe you espouse.
Understand?
Trans kids exist - I know because I work with, help and mentor vulnerable sector trans kids. They exist and are real. Gender identity is a proven reality and being transgender is a scientifically proven Natural Human Condition.
Support trans kids or leave them TF alone.
Pls.
Detrasitioners exist too. I would recomend you to see their point of view, as their choices were not based on religion but internal reflections, from youngers to old.
I absolutely do acknowledge detrans folk. As I work and volunteer with vulnerable sector trans kids I know for certain that a small percentage put off transitioning for any number of reasons. We would never try to talk them out of that.
Moreover, stats show that approx 60 -70 percent of detrans folk transition later on in life when it's better for them.
I hope this helps.
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