The Fakiest Fake Berthier I Have Seen All Day

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  • Опубликовано: 19 апр 2020
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  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins 4 года назад +1424

    "And who are you to say this is fake?"
    *points to his book on french rifles*
    "Ah ok."

    • @user-njyzcip
      @user-njyzcip 4 года назад +65

      Points to book that got hundreds of thousands of dollars on Kickstarter before it was even printed*

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac 4 года назад +25

      "Huh yeah, so.... you bought a book.... about French rifles? That has nothing to do with this - I'm selling you my bur-tir.... Now pay up!"
      😆

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza 4 года назад +1

      He's French

    • @kylebradley3
      @kylebradley3 4 года назад +4

      I read that as French fries initially

    • @murphsmodels8853
      @murphsmodels8853 4 года назад +39

      Even better: *holds up authentic version of what the fake claims to be*

  • @wojciechkolibski6718
    @wojciechkolibski6718 4 года назад +3445

    Ian is really getting bored at home, but this is great. I'd enjoy some "Fakiest Fakes" series. Really entertaining haha

    • @SaladofStones
      @SaladofStones 4 года назад +67

      Quarantine does things to a man. Just look at all the celebrities dying without attention.

    • @SnellSr
      @SnellSr 4 года назад +14

      what a great idea!

    • @robertelmo7736
      @robertelmo7736 4 года назад +18

      Or we could start sending him stuff on our guns we know nothing about and let him run with it...I got some SKS from the 60's that I think has never been fired, and a nice GI spec Universal M1 Carbine with a serial number that starts with "X"-- would like to know more about either one.

    • @vroomkaboom108
      @vroomkaboom108 4 года назад +23

      SaladofStones Hey guys, celebrity #2527 here, streaming from my huge mansion, im soooo sad :((((

    • @Wolvenworks
      @Wolvenworks 4 года назад +15

      i think he did a couple already on
      -Khyber Pass copies (notorious for the very varying levels of faking)
      -chinese knockoffs
      -vietnamese knockoffs of M1911s

  • @TheCatBilbo
    @TheCatBilbo 3 года назад +506

    Interesting to see Ian wearing an Elbonian Winter camouflage shirt, one of the least successful Elbonian DPM patterns, but I still love it!

    • @fabiogalletti8616
      @fabiogalletti8616 3 месяца назад +6

      not as bad as the gray on gray US Army ACU pattern, but indeed not the best Elbonian design.
      I like their mud cakes splotches camo, tho.

    • @janwitts2688
      @janwitts2688 Месяц назад +1

      Not complete without the day glo orange hat

  • @davidhoran7116
    @davidhoran7116 4 года назад +619

    *casually pulls berthier from beside desk*
    I’d like to imagine he has French firearms littered throughout his house.

    • @thesturm8686
      @thesturm8686 4 года назад +44

      He probably does

    • @colemanmoore9871
      @colemanmoore9871 4 года назад +60

      Did you notice the casual machine gun leaning against the bookcase?

    • @Imbeachedwhale
      @Imbeachedwhale 4 года назад +41

      Coleman Moore That’s his Berthier modified for a Chauchat magazine.

    • @stasylumbassist1
      @stasylumbassist1 3 года назад +10

      Bro he uses ammo boxes as bookstands, he probably has French German Brittish and American firearms littered in every nook and cranny in his home.

    • @zolafuckass8606
      @zolafuckass8606 3 года назад

      I mean...yeah.

  • @alexdemoya2119
    @alexdemoya2119 4 года назад +4455

    Imagine committing a sin so egregious that Jesus Christ himself calls you out while wearing a hawaiian shirt

    • @FrAnC3sCoN123
      @FrAnC3sCoN123 4 года назад +154

      even Jesus is down to booge

    • @echodelta2172
      @echodelta2172 4 года назад +156

      not just that, an "Air Force Hawaiian" parody shirt from the uniform trials that yielded the Airman Battle Uniform...it just went deeper

    • @lukaskaelin6249
      @lukaskaelin6249 4 года назад +15

      I actually think he looks more like Robin Hood...….

    • @TheKlink
      @TheKlink 4 года назад +7

      Preacher level shix right there

    • @mandalorion
      @mandalorion 4 года назад +14

      Made me proper gut laugh, cheers.

  • @TheCoopMan
    @TheCoopMan 4 года назад +1021

    I would love a series like” this months weirdest on gunbroker”.
    You brake down either weird, Interesting or fake guns.

    • @Archangelm127
      @Archangelm127 4 года назад +44

      Seconded. I'd love to see some really egregious fakes or just weird rebuilds like this one.

    • @haroldellis9721
      @haroldellis9721 4 года назад +19

      I agree completely.

    • @CHMichael
      @CHMichael 4 года назад +15

      That is a great idea

    • @andygriffith5975
      @andygriffith5975 4 года назад +13

      My friend and I used to play a kind of scavenger hunt game on GunBroker, and the name of the game was "find the most expensive items"

    • @eVVigilance
      @eVVigilance 4 года назад +7

      Back before we were married, my future wife and I would go to the local weekly auction with my Grandfather. She took great delight in texting out the "wtf item of the week" to friends and family.
      So yes Ian, can we get a regular feature? With all the GOOD guns you see there MUST be more like this...

  • @ryderpaskevich857
    @ryderpaskevich857 3 года назад +52

    "...are very rare to find."
    *whips one out*

  • @muddyhotdog4103
    @muddyhotdog4103 4 года назад +503

    Would be funny if the listing price for this rifle just went up.. "Featured on Forgotten Weapons; Fakiest Fake Berthier"

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 3 года назад +13

      There *are* folks who deliberately collect fakes.

    • @ianfinrir8724
      @ianfinrir8724 2 года назад +4

      @@lairdcummings9092 Yeah, but they prefer the term "replica."

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 2 года назад +10

      @@ianfinrir8724usually. Not always, though. I have a friend who collects fake Rolexes. He only buys the fakes that are billed as actual Rolexes - no replicas for him - only bona fide fakes.

    • @nandospm
      @nandospm 2 года назад +3

      It will become so valuable that people will try to fake it

    • @muddyhotdog4103
      @muddyhotdog4103 2 года назад

      @@nandospm haha

  • @kyleharmse5968
    @kyleharmse5968 4 года назад +802

    For sale: Horrible kludge, bubbaed together in the back woods of... somewhere. Contains 100% historically interesting rifle components. At most 50% French. May explode into splinters upon firing. Serious offers only.

    • @Primarch359
      @Primarch359 4 года назад +64

      Because of how many pictures are shown...i think this seller is a victim and not the person that originally made it.

    • @dsandoval9396
      @dsandoval9396 4 года назад +8

      Shut up and take my money.

    • @thatguybrody4819
      @thatguybrody4819 4 года назад +2

      yo im selling a dupe shovel.

    • @thomasbrown9402
      @thomasbrown9402 4 года назад +8

      You forgot, "As featured in 'Forgotten Weapons'".

    • @Vladimir_4757
      @Vladimir_4757 4 года назад +1

      Ah yes, my part of the state of Florida would like to buy your entire stock

  • @URBANAMERICANTAC
    @URBANAMERICANTAC 4 года назад +610

    I'm looking at his auction now. He should add "as reviewed on Forgotten Weapons" lol.

    • @sidewinder666666
      @sidewinder666666 4 года назад +10

      What's the link to it, and has anyone called him out for this?

    • @Pieguy123456789100
      @Pieguy123456789100 4 года назад

      Super curious on the price

    • @URBANAMERICANTAC
      @URBANAMERICANTAC 4 года назад +6

      guy c 299.99 I believe

    • @CTM_95
      @CTM_95 4 года назад +4

      @guy c $299.99

    • @Newman0072
      @Newman0072 4 года назад +10

      @@sidewinder666666 www.gunbroker.com/Item/866003537

  • @nicorhodes837
    @nicorhodes837 4 года назад +212

    "How're you to say this isn't a real Berthier rifle?"
    Ian: *pulls out actual Berthier rifle for comparison

    • @kmech3rd
      @kmech3rd 4 года назад +14

      "Well, I just HAPPEN to have... THIS!"

    • @ThatGuyNicho
      @ThatGuyNicho 4 года назад +6

      Well that's Ian for you.

  • @diegocella6791
    @diegocella6791 4 года назад +628

    Probably this gun has a more interesting story than the seller had immagined

    • @partyrobbins4690
      @partyrobbins4690 4 года назад +26

      Looks like it was made in Khyber Pass.

    • @bho-lj1jk
      @bho-lj1jk 4 года назад +30

      A victim of oppressive gun laws on several continents? Continually modified to remain legal for decades? Necessity is the auntie of modification?

    • @louisr6560
      @louisr6560 4 года назад +7

      @@bho-lj1jk what imaginable gun law would you circumvent by changing the wooden stock of a rifle or changing the cleaning rod?

    • @bho-lj1jk
      @bho-lj1jk 4 года назад +3

      Louis R it was a joke.

    • @neuzdost1939
      @neuzdost1939 8 месяцев назад +1

      You're right. It's ultra rare prototype. 60k won't do it

  • @tehsma
    @tehsma 4 года назад +605

    LMAO I'm pretty sure we all agree that this would be an excellent recurring series. Or at the very least "something is wrong here" series.

  • @LongLiveHelghast
    @LongLiveHelghast 4 года назад +132

    I like how Ian just has a real Berthier with the rare original cleaning rod just lying about in his house

    • @TrashGoblin824
      @TrashGoblin824 4 года назад +7

      Don't we all?

    • @HeatherSpoonheim
      @HeatherSpoonheim 4 года назад +21

      @@TrashGoblin824 No, we don't. I just went through my collection of Berthiers and not one of them has the rare, original cleaning rod. Don't be so pretentious.

    • @jeromeavery8649
      @jeromeavery8649 4 года назад +1

      Heather R/whoooooosh

    • @danndann1958
      @danndann1958 4 года назад +10

      @@jeromeavery8649 whooooooooosh

    • @ace29054
      @ace29054 4 года назад

      @@danndann1958 lol

  • @SinginShooter
    @SinginShooter 4 года назад +522

    "I went on the internet... and found THIS."
    *crowd groans in disgust*

    • @phileas007
      @phileas007 4 года назад +34

      Dude, this line brings back some memories :'‑)

    • @poptat1
      @poptat1 4 года назад +36

      And on that bombshell.........

    • @cyndernight2422
      @cyndernight2422 4 года назад +20

      "it is just, pure p0rnography"

    • @RYNOCIRATOR_V5
      @RYNOCIRATOR_V5 4 года назад +7

      this reference make me smile ear to ear

    • @Dylan_Sterling
      @Dylan_Sterling 4 года назад +6

      “WOAH! Okay!... I could believe that”

  • @rowdsterrex7845
    @rowdsterrex7845 4 года назад +221

    My brain: "Yeah, that gun looks off."
    Ian's Brain: exploded view of every part in the gun

    • @kmech3rd
      @kmech3rd 4 года назад +9

      I can practically see the ghostly shapes in the middle of the air as he looks at each one, like some crazy gun world necromancer...

    • @wurfyy
      @wurfyy 4 года назад +4

      This gun's maker's brain: exploded years ago, probably.

  • @quistan2
    @quistan2 4 года назад +139

    Ian handles cursed gun images a lot different than Brendan Herrera.

  • @Flakfire
    @Flakfire 4 года назад +250

    This makes me want to buy it and send it to you.

    • @lucasqualls5086
      @lucasqualls5086 4 года назад +11

      Do it

    • @voodoo4876
      @voodoo4876 3 года назад +3

      eyyyy, flakfire

    • @biggidybungus4572
      @biggidybungus4572 3 года назад +2

      Flakfire? A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

    • @DeetexSeraphine
      @DeetexSeraphine 3 года назад +3

      Someone's gonna.
      The Worst-AK-ever was send to the AKguy thanks to Ian so this is not beyond the realm of possible

    • @AlexWithington
      @AlexWithington 3 года назад +2

      @@DeetexSeraphine the person who posted it took it down after this video as they them selves did not know it was fake

  • @spking4149
    @spking4149 4 года назад +187

    Ian is the guy Rick from Pawn Stars should call when he needs an expert on guns....

    • @lurchliebe5317
      @lurchliebe5317 4 года назад +50

      Every episode starts with: "Hi my name's Rick from Pawn Stars, and I've absolutely no idea what this is so I'm calling my buddy [...]"

    • @clubtcb
      @clubtcb 4 года назад +38

      @@lurchliebe5317 And ends with: I'll give you 5 bucks, and I'm taking a risk here

    • @Klaaism
      @Klaaism 4 года назад +5

      Rick has infinite life lines.

    • @AndrewAMartin
      @AndrewAMartin 4 года назад +15

      @@clubtcb Nobody with any brains would expect to get top dollar at a pawn shop, their only benefit is immediacy - cash now. You're paying for the convenience.

    • @brinsonharris9816
      @brinsonharris9816 4 года назад +13

      Ian would probably consider it, but only if Rick agrees to stop laughing at his own jokes.

  • @dakohli
    @dakohli 4 года назад +71

    That "cleaning rod" almost looks like a gas piston

    • @davidlamppert9093
      @davidlamppert9093 4 года назад +2

      Looks like an SKS cleaning rod???

    • @donovanchilton5817
      @donovanchilton5817 3 года назад +4

      @@davidlamppert9093 close, but not quite. SKS has one that looks sorta like an end cap with a hole in it. It's somewhat bell shaped. At least the Chinese ones are. There might be variations of them, I am unsure.

  • @TheRazePlayz
    @TheRazePlayz 4 года назад +137

    7 minutes of gun jesus being amused by heathen shenanigans.

  • @radaroreilly9502
    @radaroreilly9502 4 года назад +102

    After this review, this “rifle” is actually more valuable...

  • @tangero3462
    @tangero3462 4 года назад +37

    If you loved this, you'd love a couple of pieces my buddy found. We refer to them as Ultimate Sporter I & II. Both are Steyr M95 carbines--one was converted to .410 and the other was converted to operate as a lever action

    • @finskigerman6485
      @finskigerman6485 2 года назад +2

      Any chance you can post a video or pictures of them? I‘m curious as to how that‘s even possible!

    • @ianfinrir8724
      @ianfinrir8724 2 года назад +1

      It's a damn shame the way people treat such nice things.

    • @AspiLeo
      @AspiLeo 9 месяцев назад +1

      Wait what?

  • @Nellsism
    @Nellsism 4 года назад +212

    GF: Hey babe, what are you watching?
    Me: gun jesus in a Hawaiian shirt describing how to spot a fake french rifle
    GF: 🙄

    • @alexxela9502
      @alexxela9502 4 года назад +4

      🤣

    • @RMJTOOLS
      @RMJTOOLS 4 года назад +14

      I’m lucky. My GF loves this kind of stuff.

    • @Spoderman5000
      @Spoderman5000 3 года назад +6

      “Tiger stripe” Hawaiian shirt at that. 😎

    • @stasylumbassist1
      @stasylumbassist1 3 года назад +3

      He needs to sport more Hawaiian shirts and make more "fakiest fake" videos lol

    • @CliffMcAulay
      @CliffMcAulay 3 года назад +1

      LOL. So very true!

  • @user-xq5og9lt8p
    @user-xq5og9lt8p 4 года назад +40

    "And than said He " Thou shalt not fake French guns, because they are chosen and beloved by Me" and He stuck down upon the heretic with great vengeance and furious anger and banished him into the deepest depths of gun hell..."

    • @jbtdmc
      @jbtdmc 4 года назад

      Олег Козлов So Says "Gun Jesus" =:0)

  • @tugboatyan
    @tugboatyan 4 года назад +134

    I am sneakily impressed by the sheer amount of effort that went into this "fake." It's like someone got half a Berthier and decided that since historical accuracy was already shot to hell by half the components being missing, come hell or high water, that was going to be their beater bolt gun.

    • @88porpoise
      @88porpoise 4 года назад +48

      My guess is it wasn’t a fake. Some guy had some parts lying around and put himself together a shootable rifle for fun. Many years later and having passed through multiple hands that story is lost and random guy doesn’t know any better (and deliberately does not ask questions).

    • @Wolvenworks
      @Wolvenworks 4 года назад +4

      @@88porpoise ooor it could also be that after shooting it once and feeling the full brunt of a Berthier's recoil, he decided to just fuck with it and sell it?

    • @carbon1255
      @carbon1255 4 года назад

      @Robert King Nah, if the original guy used the styled rifle he might wish to copy its layout.

  • @Lukusprime
    @Lukusprime 4 года назад +94

    There’s so many up-close pictures that anyone could tell it has been modified, so I think that it might not be someone intentionally trying to rip off an unknowing buyer. Rather, this guy selling it probably was the unknowing buyer, who bought it from someone at some point and now years later he’s decided to get rid of it and is just selling it thinking there’s nothing wrong with it. Remember, a person doesn’t have to know a lot about guns in order to know how to use one. Some people’s amount of knowledge extends to “oh that’s a cool-looking gun” and that’s about it.

    • @SpaceCowboyfromNJ
      @SpaceCowboyfromNJ 4 года назад +26

      I agree, with just the amount of picture alone I'd chalk it up to simply not knowing these particular rifles. The Guy has since changed the listing acknowledging this video and saying it he simply doesn't know much about these types of rifles, so it's no longer for sale, but he is leaving the listing up for now just so people who see this video can take a look at it for enjoyment/educational purposes.

    • @samiam619
      @samiam619 4 года назад +18

      Don’t knock “oh that’s a cool-looking gun”! That’s how I ended up buying a SVT-40. Had never heard of them, took 2nd wife to see an M1 Garand, she saw the SVT and said “that looks cool, buy it!” Okay dear, if you want me to! One of the most valuable in my collection...

  • @dixoncider4684
    @dixoncider4684 4 года назад +39

    4:29 🤣 That is a plumbing PEX ring jammed in there! Genius!

  • @HootOwl513
    @HootOwl513 4 года назад +106

    Next Ad: Genuine Maquis-made wartime zipgun conversion of broken French rifle with stolen Nazi parts. Rebuilt in winecellar by kerosene light. Vive la Resistance.

    • @southjerseysound7340
      @southjerseysound7340 4 года назад +21

      I actually have a bastard gun that my grandfather brought home after the war. It was given to him after escaping from a pow camp by the resistance and he managed to keep it. It's on the same level as this gun 😂 and I wouldn't believe it if it wasn't a family heirloom. Funny enough is it's actually got a copper pipe insert for the bayonet too. They took a piece of a faucet and peened it over to hold it in 😂 . Thankfully I don't see it getting sold for another generation because my oldest daughter who's 8 just started shooting and loves it so far. So even without a son I think it's going to be in the family a little bit longer.

    • @HootOwl513
      @HootOwl513 4 года назад +7

      @@southjerseysound7340 I was making a wisecrack, but I seemed to have struck some truth. Good for your Grandfather. Guys like him are why we don't have to learn German in grade school. One of my Grandfathers was a Medical Corps doctor with the AEF [1917-19], and the other was an engineer. He built ships in WWI and halftracks in WWII.
      Good for your daughter.

    • @bezahltersystemtroll5055
      @bezahltersystemtroll5055 4 года назад

      @@HootOwl513 hey, germans an awesome language ok? 😛

  • @bentheenigma1913
    @bentheenigma1913 4 года назад +89

    It looks like a rejected hunting rifle design from a cancelled fallout game.

    • @phatfux6621
      @phatfux6621 4 года назад +5

      It's a sad time we're lining in when Fallout franchise is only associated with bethesda.

    • @diamonddigs6206
      @diamonddigs6206 4 года назад

      @@phatfux6621 well it has been like 20 years

    • @thh420
      @thh420 4 года назад

      Or something they're saving for another shitty dlc.

  • @Ealsante
    @Ealsante 4 года назад +151

    If this rifle could speak, it would be in a hoarse, low moan, saying "killl meeee.... killll meeeeee..."

    • @flash4354
      @flash4354 4 года назад +7

      Ahh, kinda like the chimeras in the earliest parts of Fullmetal Alchemist...

    • @tadhgmcelligott3693
      @tadhgmcelligott3693 4 года назад +6

      @@flash4354 or Ripley's clone in Alien

    • @marc-antoinerave2572
      @marc-antoinerave2572 4 года назад

      ahahahah

    • @MLPIceberg
      @MLPIceberg 4 года назад +2

      @@flash4354 Dammit, I was gonna say that!! lol

    • @coltm4a186
      @coltm4a186 4 года назад +3

      It’s a Frankenstein’s Monster of a rifle. It really is with all the random parts on that thing.

  • @JB-pu6ek
    @JB-pu6ek 3 года назад +5

    In a way to me this is actually a well done job in that the guy had put all these parts from other rare collectable rifles together in a hodgepodge that actually looks pretty good and it even functions as well. Bravo to whoever actually did this I suppose and getting all the parts to fit.

  • @adotare9180
    @adotare9180 4 года назад +121

    I almost wonder if this wasn't some sort of de-sporterization attempt gone horrifically wrong.

    • @Operator8282
      @Operator8282 4 года назад +10

      Gunsmithing corespndance course practice rifle, to be sure.

    • @Wolvenworks
      @Wolvenworks 4 года назад +2

      though with this level of fakery you'd think this is more of an attempted murder of sorts

    • @whisperchainsaw102
      @whisperchainsaw102 4 года назад +2

      I think thats the most likely answer. Having a barreled action is in my opinion the most important part of the gun. Just a shame they couldnt have been honest about it.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 4 года назад

      I'm hoping that's what it was.

  • @mrfancypanzer549
    @mrfancypanzer549 4 года назад +94

    Looks like someone tried to unsporterize a sporterized Berthier.

    • @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC
      @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC 4 года назад +6

      12 hours later, they're stooped over this thing on the bench, holding their breath and their head in their hands, silently questioning their history of bad decisions in life and wondering if there's still brandy hidden in the desk.

    • @hithereon
      @hithereon 4 года назад +1

      That's the best comment yet. The moment they fully realize the true depths of the folly of their $40 French POS "bargain" barreled action purchase...

    • @spaceisalie5451
      @spaceisalie5451 4 года назад +1

      Indeed

  • @ifitsfreeitsforme1852
    @ifitsfreeitsforme1852 4 года назад +31

    I wonder if this was an Afghan bring back. If you want to see fakes, look at some of the Martini Henry's that come back from the Middle East . It's amazing what they can "Kabul" together.

    • @-yeme-
      @-yeme- 4 года назад +3

      the method might be pretty Khyber pass but I think it would be a very unusual list of French and German/Austrian ingredients to find out there

    • @thebigchip1711
      @thebigchip1711 4 года назад +3

      Is it weird that I got the pun

    • @ianfinrir8724
      @ianfinrir8724 2 года назад

      ...are you proud of that pun?

  • @LeafseasonMagbag
    @LeafseasonMagbag 4 года назад +25

    I’d really like to know the story behind this monstrosity.
    Because it seems whoever made this thing made a good knowledge of gunsmithing, if not necessarily the parts on hand.

  • @LostSourdough
    @LostSourdough 4 года назад +72

    "I know its a fake, I know its a frankengun, this is why, I will give you $150 because it is an abomination and I want it for my shelf"

    • @Sevensixtytwo
      @Sevensixtytwo 4 года назад +1

      That gun should go to smelter. In Finland police depardment put nicer guns to furnace than this, because we have such law.

    • @blackbaron9544
      @blackbaron9544 4 года назад +5

      @@Sevensixtytwo Destroying guns seems atrocious to me

    • @patrickodonnell9443
      @patrickodonnell9443 4 года назад

      @@blackbaron9544 I don't weep for a discarded hammer once it's been found defective. Nor do I weep for a firearm that may never have been fit for purpose, and which is clearly showing signs of mechanical failure.
      A broken tool is just that, be it a hammer or firearm, if it's not worth repairing remove it from service.

    • @lightmetro7508
      @lightmetro7508 4 года назад +1

      @@patrickodonnell9443 it's still a piece of history.

    • @johnkelinske1449
      @johnkelinske1449 4 года назад

      @@Sevensixtytwo And that would gain you exactly what?

  • @johnlarsen7068
    @johnlarsen7068 4 года назад +183

    Most Berthiers: oui oui
    This Berthier: Ja ja

    • @jameskosusnik1102
      @jameskosusnik1102 4 года назад +2

      More like shi

    • @gustavoacosta2893
      @gustavoacosta2893 4 года назад

      @@jameskosusnik1102 jajajaajja

    • @Operator8282
      @Operator8282 4 года назад +3

      Never know, could be Alsatian...

    • @ja0298
      @ja0298 4 года назад

      I want to imagine this thing sounding like jar jar binks for some reason.

    • @Brigand231
      @Brigand231 4 года назад

      hue hue hue

  • @TH-wm5cu
    @TH-wm5cu 4 года назад +64

    “I will never recover from this financially” - guy selling fake berthier rifle after watching this

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 4 года назад +22

      The seller updated his entry with an acknowledgement of Ian's review.
      Pretty classy, even if it *was* in SHOUTY FONT.

    • @thesleepypiggy
      @thesleepypiggy 3 года назад +1

      @@lairdcummings9092 Well I wouldnt be supprised if he got spammed and got overwhelmed.

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 3 года назад

      @@thesleepypiggy fair point. Slash-Dot ( /. ) effect.

  • @Janus2407
    @Janus2407 4 года назад +5

    I read "the fakiest of fake beards" and thought that Ian's mighty mustache was a fake all along. I'm glad I misread that. I'm not ready for such betrayal

  • @knightofavalon86
    @knightofavalon86 4 года назад +58

    Looks like Ian's been watching Magnum PI

    • @Operator8282
      @Operator8282 4 года назад

      Wouldn't his moustache be thicker?

    • @magnanimus9692
      @magnanimus9692 4 года назад +1

      @@Operator8282 In due time....

    • @2805662
      @2805662 4 года назад

      Bawidamann Aloha Now shirt. Nice.

    • @michaelfodor6280
      @michaelfodor6280 4 года назад +1

      @@2805662 Cool. I'll give the video a like just for Ian's cool taste in shirts.

  • @helioscephelles
    @helioscephelles 4 года назад +102

    Ian flexes his godly gun muscles on the lowly gun peasants.

  • @louisbecker5941
    @louisbecker5941 4 года назад +11

    Where you mentioned the stock being cracked:
    I'm not sure if it's quite that visible, but I think i see two completely different patterns of wood grain- like the stock was rebuilt with pieces of another stock.

  • @orbitalvagabond7371
    @orbitalvagabond7371 4 года назад +24

    If it's cheap enough, you need to buy it, Ian. Do you think you'll ever see such a chimera ever again?

  • @blazer6248
    @blazer6248 4 года назад +19

    That segue into "if you had my book..." was smooth as glass, Ian! 😁👍

  • @jaredbaker5447
    @jaredbaker5447 4 года назад +34

    I want to give the seller the benefit of the doubt and say he has no clue how fake/bad the rifle is. The amount of closeups on obviously thrown together parts that don't make sense makes me think he's really bad at faking stuff or is generally clueless. Hopefully he didn't pay too much for it

  • @pygmyowl8801
    @pygmyowl8801 4 года назад +5

    Reminds me of the "I went on the Internet this week, and I found this..." bit from Top Gear.

  • @lscf
    @lscf 4 года назад +3

    I have no knowledge of guns or how they function, besides videogames, but listening to someone as enthusiastic and learned as Ian talk about firearms of all kinds is really enjoyable for some reason.

  • @XxPsykosXS
    @XxPsykosXS 4 года назад +79

    Ian : Well there is no such thing as ....
    Paul Harrell : Oh no.

    • @JohnDoe-nf7up
      @JohnDoe-nf7up 4 года назад +14

      Seeing as he literally wrote a book on french rifles with access to original documentation I think he is qualified to say that

    • @austinhuber3131
      @austinhuber3131 4 года назад

      @@JohnDoe-nf7up Thank you, Captain pedantic

    • @LithiumFusion1
      @LithiumFusion1 4 года назад +11

      Paul Harrell: Upon an additional moments reflection there is ALWAYS an exception to a generality. *waves giant hands in a convincing fashion*

    • @mauserwinchester
      @mauserwinchester 4 года назад +1

      I think Paul would give Ian a pass on this one.

    • @XxPsykosXS
      @XxPsykosXS 4 года назад

      @@JohnDoe-nf7up I know bruv that was just for the meme.

  • @haroldellis9721
    @haroldellis9721 4 года назад +253

    Verily, yee shalt not try to pull a fast one before the eyes of the Son our Our Lord, for he shall call you out, and show thine flock what a real one looks like, for, "I have one right here, naturally."

    • @kevingooley9628
      @kevingooley9628 4 года назад +17

      That was my favorite part, when he casually pulls out a REAL Berthier.

    • @hendrikvanleeuwen9110
      @hendrikvanleeuwen9110 4 года назад +18

      .... And the people did see it, and saw it was good, and turned their eyes from the abomination.

    • @FLEASPIRIT13
      @FLEASPIRIT13 4 года назад +1

      He’s the man

    • @markfergerson2145
      @markfergerson2145 4 года назад +2

      @@kevingooley9628 You mean "casually manifests one from nothing".

    • @Spooktical
      @Spooktical 4 года назад +2

      Ian, you gotta pin this comment.

  • @snicks3211
    @snicks3211 4 года назад +2

    That in among-st his tearing this gun apart, he gives a shoutout to the dude's gun fab skill for making this thing at all, warms my soul. You appreciate the touch of talent an improvisation inside the frankenstien, and that's why we appreciate you. :)

  • @Angrymuscles
    @Angrymuscles 4 года назад +7

    Ian, I'm very jealous of that shirt you have. All of my Hawaiian shirts are bright and obnoxious, yours is lively but classy. I approve.

  • @jonmittlsteadt4297
    @jonmittlsteadt4297 4 года назад +65

    Someone show this to Brandon Herrera for cursed gun images

    • @magnanimus9692
      @magnanimus9692 4 года назад +5

      Tbh Id be surprised if he'd be astute enough to pick up on this (not at all to Brandon's discredit, rather this is to Ian's credit).

    • @zacharyrollick6169
      @zacharyrollick6169 4 года назад +6

      @@magnanimus9692 Yeah, French stuff isn't his area of expertise and this isn't overt.

    • @davidashurov5255
      @davidashurov5255 4 года назад

      Tbh i dont think he'd notice something like this considering his area of expertise is more of the modern stuff(if soviet guns from right after ww2 would be considered modern)

  • @mr3839
    @mr3839 4 года назад +45

    Listening to Ian say Berthier so well was worth the price of admission.

    • @thegoldencaulk2742
      @thegoldencaulk2742 4 года назад +6

      Especially after just hearing Eric from IV8888 butcher it so many times

  • @stepcorngrumbleteats7683
    @stepcorngrumbleteats7683 3 года назад +3

    Gentlemen, THIS is an EXPERT...glancing at a listing where your expertise yells "No" ... then following up with research and facts...Thank you, Ian

  • @_ArsNova
    @_ArsNova 6 месяцев назад +1

    As an owner of an Argentine 1891 Mauser I can 100% say that upper handguard looks like it's from one.

  • @Vincent-S
    @Vincent-S 4 года назад +66

    Heh, more like Bubarthier Lebel M16 carbine.
    That thing is a disaster.

  • @dantesfinferno7248
    @dantesfinferno7248 4 года назад +21

    "1500$ I know what I got"

  • @dwp1970
    @dwp1970 4 года назад

    A number of years ago I saw a museum show/display of counterfeit items covering all sorts of fields (fine art, clothing, wine, and of course money) but I don't remember firearms being one of the areas. It is a fascinating topic. Thanks again for another great video Ian.

  • @davidashurov5255
    @davidashurov5255 4 года назад +1

    Videos like these should be a series it would be gold. Harkening back to the mystery rifle video from I cant even recall how far back the good ole "French-iltian carcano".

  • @Thunderous117
    @Thunderous117 4 года назад +29

    You know in a weird twisted way it’s almost admirable

    • @clothar23
      @clothar23 4 года назад +2

      I know right. I mean it's faked status is without question but it's obvious a lot of work went in to it. A shame thaf person didn't put those skills to more productive ends.

    • @88porpoise
      @88porpoise 4 года назад +2

      Purge Blade #231 I suspect his efforts were put to very productive ends. I seriously this was made to fake a Berthier, but just to make a useable gun out of broken stuff he had lying around. And he made a cool little toy. But years and owners later things someone believes it is real.

    • @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC
      @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC 4 года назад

      @@88porpoise Idk. If the rifle has no sights and is beating its way out of a poorly-conceived stock, I wouldn't really call it a usable gun.

    • @88porpoise
      @88porpoise 4 года назад

      Dream Services International the stock was likely split because the rifle was being used. And not having a sight now doesn’t mean it didn’t have one.

    • @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC
      @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC 4 года назад

      @@88porpoise I'm pretty sure you understand what I meant by that, but sure. If something destroys itself upon use, I suppose in some literalist sense, you could say it's usable ... or at least that it was briefly usable.

  • @user-qm6lp2vh3k
    @user-qm6lp2vh3k 4 года назад +74

    Ian is officially in the Hawaiian shirt crew

    • @freedomlover866
      @freedomlover866 4 года назад +3

      Join us in the great arctic shuffle

    • @alswann2702
      @alswann2702 4 года назад

      It's a Bawidamann Apocalypse Now shirt. Personally I wish Andrew would go back to doing military pin up art, like my logo.

    • @tyrantstomper
      @tyrantstomper 4 года назад +1

      Ian McCollum: Boog General

  • @LibertyNotLicense
    @LibertyNotLicense 4 года назад

    Clearly of the Alsace-Lorraine, Sir.
    All of your successes are well deserved, Ian.
    Thank you for years of incredible work product.

  • @joearnold6881
    @joearnold6881 3 года назад +2

    I’ve never even touched a gun,
    But I’ve been watching enough c&rsenal and forgotten weapons that I was able to pause it and call out half the things Ian then mentioned.
    I’m proud of myself :)

  • @munglescrunkus69
    @munglescrunkus69 4 года назад +82

    Almost looks like a khyber pass frankenstein gun

    • @Hybris51129
      @Hybris51129 4 года назад +6

      Careful this guy might just try to list it like that if/when this current listing fails.

    • @rasdread0989
      @rasdread0989 4 года назад +5

      Khyber gun would literally be a martini, AK, AR, HK, knock off abomination of all sorts

    • @DT-sb9sv
      @DT-sb9sv 4 года назад +3

      I wonder how old the mods are? Could it be from occupation? I was thinking the same thing. Maybe a resistence rifle.

    • @osric1730
      @osric1730 4 года назад

      @@DT-sb9sv Yeah that was what I thought. You would imagine there was a pressing need to go to the trouble wouldn't you?

    • @JPR3D
      @JPR3D 4 года назад

      @@DT-sb9sv That would be comically ironic if it turned out to be a Resistance rifle with a story.

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins 4 года назад +30

    seems like someone made a frankengun, then sold it, then that person wants to sell it not realizing its a frankengun because nobody can be that dense

  • @Jugend88139
    @Jugend88139 4 года назад

    Always a pleasure as a french to watch Ian videos about french guns😊. Funny and strange fake Berthier indeed!

  • @justrobin8155
    @justrobin8155 4 года назад

    I did not come here expecting to be genuinely impressed by the creativity whoever made this

  • @aussiebloke609
    @aussiebloke609 4 года назад +18

    I have a strong feeling the current owner doesn't know he was hoodwinked when he bought it. If he was trying to hide that it was a kludge of parts, why show a close-up of the bayonet with that copper reducing ring?

    • @thearousedeunuch
      @thearousedeunuch 4 года назад +2

      The seller said that he didn't know it was a fake. You are correct.

    • @WingMaster562
      @WingMaster562 Год назад +1

      Upon seeing this video, he immidiately updated the description that he was fooled, and he took the sale out

  • @sixgunsaint
    @sixgunsaint 4 года назад +16

    I'd have to wonder if an old gunsmith didn't just had some free time or a "You know what I could do" moment. Then hung it on the wall. Then someone went and fired it.

    • @dbldblu
      @dbldblu 4 года назад +1

      Like the revolvers reworked to have the barrel pointing backwards and advertised as a Polish Dueling Revolver.

  • @life_with_bernie
    @life_with_bernie 4 года назад +2

    Ian probably doubled its value by reviewing it. Some Forgotten Weapons fan is going to buy it and send it to Ian to autograph, then proudly hang it in the living room.

  • @tedking6790
    @tedking6790 4 года назад

    I would love more content like this.
    Thanks, as always you too my list of YT creators, I appreciate you doing what you’re doing.

  • @FuryTomic
    @FuryTomic 4 года назад +85

    Imagine someone actually paying a lot of money to go ahead and try to win that.. Only to find out that it's a fake when it arrives to the FFL

    • @dwaneanderson8039
      @dwaneanderson8039 4 года назад +23

      He can just tell his friends that it's a one of a kind prototype. Real collector's item.

    • @Archangelm127
      @Archangelm127 4 года назад +22

      @@dwaneanderson8039 It would make an interesting conversation piece. I mean, we're all here.

    • @oldblindy5625
      @oldblindy5625 4 года назад +11

      FuryTomic define fake. Either intentional or really has no clue. I think cluelss seller. Theyd try to pass it off and make it look right. This is an abomination that some one bubba'd and now the nephew wants to sell and is clueless.

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 4 года назад +2

      @@oldblindy5625 That seems most likely.
      Either a found or inherited gun that someone who knows nothing about firearms is trying to sell.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 4 года назад +4

      In some way that thing could actually get quite the price. There aren't so many Berthier/Mauser/Steyr hybrids out there that are actually semi-safe to fire.

  • @jacobgalfi1420
    @jacobgalfi1420 4 года назад +33

    Like if you think gun jesus should start a series called "strange guns found online" and does a discussion like this.

    • @MegaMRCHURRO
      @MegaMRCHURRO 4 года назад

      Pls

    • @---cr8nw
      @---cr8nw 4 года назад +1

      Abso-freakin-lutely.

    • @jonnyfodaw7282
      @jonnyfodaw7282 4 года назад +1

      Ian needs to see this!! Please up vote this comment!

  • @Kellanium
    @Kellanium 4 года назад

    Ian you’re the wholesomest gun nerd I’ve ever seen and I love you for it

  • @Wolvenworks
    @Wolvenworks 4 года назад +7

    so you told me that someone took parts that are probably worth more separate, and butcher them into a "Berthier" frankenstein?

  • @tisFrancesfault
    @tisFrancesfault 4 года назад +104

    This rifle is really interesting. Is it a con job, or something more ...storied.

    • @kylo-benshapiro687
      @kylo-benshapiro687 4 года назад +5

      If guns could talk

    • @csours
      @csours 4 года назад +14

      @@kylo-benshapiro687 They do, just with a very limited vocabulary.

    • @starslayer8390
      @starslayer8390 4 года назад +7

      @@csours Mostly limited to "click" and "boom".

    • @kylo-benshapiro687
      @kylo-benshapiro687 4 года назад

      @@csours I wish I could understand gunese

    • @Sondie
      @Sondie 4 года назад +12

      I personally don't think it's a con job. The seller himself states french rifles are not his expertise/interest and if you calculate the cost of all those parts from other rifles, its almost the minimum bid. If he was actually trying to scam someone he would have put it up for at least twice that price and its more likely he himself got scammed into buying it.

  • @internetexpert8153
    @internetexpert8153 4 года назад +11

    You know ian had been spending alot of time at home when he starts ripping apart fake ads 😂 😂 love you man

  • @charleslindberg829
    @charleslindberg829 4 года назад +25

    Common sense is no longer common.
    Its become: "uncommon sense".

    • @AndrewAMartin
      @AndrewAMartin 4 года назад +5

      It never really was all that common, unfortunately.

    • @augustopinochet2495
      @augustopinochet2495 4 года назад +1

      "Common sense was an Uncommon Virtue" -Augusto Pinochet 2020

  • @markreeter6227
    @markreeter6227 4 года назад +7

    “There’s a sucker born every minute.”
    - P.T. Barnum (attributed)

    • @johnkelinske1449
      @johnkelinske1449 4 года назад

      Barnum was an optomist.

    • @samiam619
      @samiam619 4 года назад

      Never give a sucker an even break!
      W.C. Fields
      I’ve been watching some of his old clips on YT, lately.

    • @bezahltersystemtroll5055
      @bezahltersystemtroll5055 4 года назад

      there's a berthier born every minute

  • @chrisnihart
    @chrisnihart 4 года назад +9

    The shirt celebrates 50 years of Apocalypse Now. Hella cool, mine just arrived today.

  • @Trogdor390
    @Trogdor390 4 года назад +42

    Seller on GunBroker: "nO lOw BaLlErS! i KnOw WhAt I hAvE!"

  • @carloscabildo3732
    @carloscabildo3732 4 года назад

    Thanks for this extreme nerding out on this gun, very entertaining, we all need to go back to work.

  • @Ogrethephreak
    @Ogrethephreak 3 года назад

    I know just about enough about guns to fire one, and clean it after I'm shown how. Seeing Ian just call out what rifles these parts are from from a picture fascinates me. This is why I watch this channel.

  • @jasonarmstrong5750
    @jasonarmstrong5750 4 года назад +14

    Blue Hawaiian tiger stripe? Never thought I’d see the day

    • @PaperworkNinja
      @PaperworkNinja 4 года назад +1

      I kinda want that shirt.

    • @robertcarden1807
      @robertcarden1807 4 года назад

      @@PaperworkNinja Me too!

    • @Texasman1992
      @Texasman1992 4 года назад

      @@robertcarden1807 ottegear.com/products/aloha-now-tiger-stripe-shirt youre welcome!

  • @kmech3rd
    @kmech3rd 4 года назад +23

    In French, they call it "Le Bannerman Especial"...

  • @thibautburdet9786
    @thibautburdet9786 4 года назад

    Ian, you should definately made more videos like this one when you deconstruct fake weapon you see, like you did on this video.
    Good job and support !

  • @user-kr7yh8vw9m
    @user-kr7yh8vw9m Месяц назад

    It was very interesting hearing about this Fakiest Fakes because you as a firearm expert can easily tell the difference between a real gun and a fake. Thanks for explaining us Ian.

  • @LM-lq4hk
    @LM-lq4hk 4 года назад +55

    rip to that man, getting called out by gun jesus lol. What price was he asking????

    • @beardoggin8963
      @beardoggin8963 4 года назад +4

      Luke Mazzarella he said he needed about tree fiddy

    • @JayKayKay7
      @JayKayKay7 4 года назад +7

      $299
      www.gunbroker.com/Item/866003537

    • @bartwardenn555
      @bartwardenn555 4 года назад +1

      $299 starting bid www.gunbroker.com/item/866003537

    • @repletereplete8002
      @repletereplete8002 4 года назад +2

      1 million dollars... I mean 100 billion dollars!

    • @johnlarsen7068
      @johnlarsen7068 4 года назад

      @@JayKayKay7 After this video he might get a few bids

  • @Arthurzeiro
    @Arthurzeiro 4 года назад +67

    Other youtubers: Exposing people and creating a lot of drama.
    Ian: I found an old french carbine with some dubious parts for sale on the internet.

  • @jeffreytam7684
    @jeffreytam7684 2 года назад

    Now that I’ve seen the whole Berthier series, I’m ready to properly appreciate this!

  • @timsaxer6442
    @timsaxer6442 4 года назад +1

    You just made 20 new friends and one enemy!

  • @chipsandcase-o5738
    @chipsandcase-o5738 4 года назад +59

    Please tell me this was reported to GunBroker...

    • @derrickb427
      @derrickb427 4 года назад +15

      It was. By a few people now I imagine.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 4 года назад +25

      Please tell me the guy will re-list it as "unique hybrid"

    • @chipsandcase-o5738
      @chipsandcase-o5738 4 года назад +1

      HappyBeezerStudios - by Lord_Mogul as much as I get annoyed with all the fake listings on GB...I legit laughed at this 😂

    • @PassiveDestroyer
      @PassiveDestroyer 4 года назад +6

      The poor guy probably doesn't even know.

    • @harrywisniewski5017
      @harrywisniewski5017 4 года назад +4

      PassiveDestroyer he actually saw the video and has stated he won’t sell it

  • @leonardwei3914
    @leonardwei3914 4 года назад +4

    If it's cheap, you should buy it and make an official video. Not because of any historical relevance, just because of the sheer audacity of making this franken-rifle.

  • @unherolike
    @unherolike 3 года назад +3

    This would Imply that Ian comes across several Berthier's a day.

  • @6thgearmoto2
    @6thgearmoto2 4 года назад

    I really hope this becomes a series

  • @gonshocks
    @gonshocks 4 года назад +37

    Looks like something the North Vietnamese would have cobbled together during the Vietnam War. Since the French were there early the Vietcong might have
    come into possession of these and made use of them.

    • @ianjones2068
      @ianjones2068 4 года назад +16

      Yes, I would start with some ex-French colony, now we just need to figure out how they came up with the Mauser parts...and all the rest. Another possibility would be Africa? Heck this gun might have a interesting historical story. It is clearly not a traditional fake.

    • @jam258420
      @jam258420 4 года назад +2

      Lots of old french and mauser rifles in Africa. I've seen weird picturess of cobbled together rifles from their before.

    • @gonshocks
      @gonshocks 4 года назад

      @Robert King The Vietcong were very resourceful.

    • @davidlamppert9093
      @davidlamppert9093 4 года назад

      @Robert King The cleaning rod looks familiar to me, SKS?

    • @jungleno.
      @jungleno. 4 года назад

      @@davidlamppert9093 nope.

  • @stephenbond1990
    @stephenbond1990 4 года назад +6

    The sheer amount of effort someone has put into mocking this up is honestly impressive,Thanks for putting this up.
    Also loving the shirt.

    • @rustyshackleford6722
      @rustyshackleford6722 4 года назад

      Here's the designer's IG if you're interested. If you scroll back a bit, he's actually got some of the references and early sketches posted for how he got the helicopters to fit into the pattern. instagram.com/abawidamann/

  • @shuffleB
    @shuffleB 4 года назад

    Man, even when your talking about firearms, I have no interest in, I still have to watch till the end. Your knowledge and genuine love for firearms, is contagious. Thank you for making me want to learn more about the hobby I love. Oh and my father is a huge fan as well.

  • @lundahl92
    @lundahl92 4 года назад

    What a cool idea for a new little series you can do. Finding fake guns people are trying to sell