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- on the car test of the cheap ebay chargecooler
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So.... what’s everyone think of the cheap chargecooler?
SpyderLEE great vid.... Informative, cool to see the results. Quite objective.
Nice! Is that the chargecooler rated for about 600 hp? What are core dimensions?
Homebuilt Racing it said 600hp on eBay but I seriously doubt it. I'm actually surprised it coped with what I gave it. I'm never confident with cheap eBay stuff
Basically I asked hp rate only to make sure it's the same one I'm thinking about for my Impreza. They have smaller ones with 350 hp rating which will be much easier to fit, but I'm still looking at the one which is similar to yours.
Homebuilt Racing ah ok 👍
Mate your're a legend! Great couple of videos, bench test as well as this. I'm glad you followed up with the real world test as the pressure and flow from the heatgun is very different to the blown air coming out of a turbo but you've covered both sides of the story and that's great to see! I've just bought a W2A intercooler (same style as the one you've fitted in this video, 2.5" inlet/outlet, 28 cm longest length and core is approx 10cm square) and I hope to get mine setup soon in my Subaru liberty (legacy) GT. Your video has inspired me to pull my finger out and get on it ;) Thanks!
Just need to pull my finger now 😂
So happy your channel was suggested. I've spent 2 days looking for this information i don't understand why your channel didn't show in the results. Great channel keep it up👍👍.
Lee I think you should become a mr2 specialist I would trust you with my car any day of the week keep up the good work great job mate
PARCHY64 I wouldn't go that far 😁.. you might regret it, I usually find better ways to do things, because I've done it wrong the first time 😂
Sometimes, even if cheaper than others, cheaper things has better results.
Obviously can't say difference it's about material because they're totally different shapes and dimensions.
Best as always, happy to watch your videos mate!
Always something to learn 👍 👍 👍
enjointyourlife83 the actual cores are similar size, but one is round and one is square. The main difference is one is blowing down the length and the other across the width
I think it performed pretty well. Can't really complain with the numbers it gave you so I think it's done just fine.
Dylzhaar yes mate I think it performed ok 👍
Got my mr2 back up and running and time to do some modifications! First im going to retrofit dual projectors in my headlights
Very informative videos and I verify it actually works. Regardless of price, it is the design of a barrel type IC that is not optimal. My results are close to yours, but I will try to improve them even more. Next I will try a high capacity water pump (35l/h) as well, but I am not sure a higher flow will improve anything. Currently the pump is starting at IAT temp of 30 deg C. I will also experiment with triggering the pump based on boost and TPS values.
Great video, Lee! I watched your previous to this regarding the hot air gun trials. I think you hit the nail on the head in your summary, the barrel is potentially too small for your application and power. I think I you had a large core you'd see similar results to your eBay item. However, it's how the car performs on the road. I have a small barrel chargecooler on my turbo mini (space isn't exactly a premium, which I'm sure you appreciate from having an MR2!), and my intake temps at the throttlebody are usually around 20-25°C above ambient.
I know this is old but I am just stating to work on a liquid to air set up. I was actually impressed how quickly the temps dropped back down after each boost run. Especially is a tight fitting car like the mr2. If it was air to air would would be up to 60-70c just cruising around. My Saab with a front mount is always around 50c or higher just driving
Btw for us Yankees 25c is77f. 40c is 104f and 70c is 158f. I think he said ambient was 18-20c which is 65-70f Really impressive
Yeah the water to air setups are really impressive
Im surprised it did so much better actually, it must be just how large it is that it can dissipate heat better
Luke R me too.. I actually expected it to perform worse than it did
I recently purchased one of those charge coolers. Do you think a charged air cooler and water/methanol (50%/50%) is overkill?
Nice video; I think the header tank volume is inadequate btw, because the water temp rises as soon as it hits the boost. Keep up the good work....
Could also be pump flow is inadequate
I think the chargecooler work perfect. In boost max temp what i saw was 50degrees which i good for me. I have w124 with megasquirt2 extra / still atmo but soon will be turbo/ . Because of heat soaking when i stop to traffic light / ambient temp is about 30-32 degree/ intake manifold temp sensor tells me intake air is about 90-95 degree . When i am cruising is about 60-65.
you must be talking fahrenheits. hes temp gauge has celsius. 50c = 122f.
@@FiTekno i am not sure i understand you... the gauge shows in Celsius,right?
have just discovered your channel, videos are great Lee.
What kind of heat exchanger are you using to cool the water?
camtheman2005 cheers dude, I’m back on the videos soon.. the charge cooler radiator to cool the water is a avt twin pass
So up to 4-5000 rpm the in temperature of the intercharger is over 300°c ? That's what I can understand from your previous banch test ,when you put the heat gun at full power and the outlet temperature was 35°c , at the cheap boxy intercharger cooler.
Heatgun was hotter but lower air flow. The turbo will have much faster moving air so the intercooler has less time to cool it
so..... because we are not physics /and chemistry magicians we must make a coment at this greate job that lee does.in my opinion we are dont know rules such as thermoheating capacity per cm/material performance/flued and residance thermoheating capacity etc.
the fact is that the chepast cooler work better than the old one and i was not expexted that?
dont forget the engine managment that lee make a great job in my opinion and is important at the hall prozect.
SpyderLee, what standalone are you thinking about? I'm running the Apexi Power FC.
Boosted G hi mate, I’m thinking link g4
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Hello, I just found out your channel very great content! Greetings from Portugal...
So i also own a MR2, and a nissan patrol, soo both cars dont really get much air, cause mr2 engine in the mid not easy to use air intercooler, and the nissan when offroading, We go slow, so not really air flow...
I got interested in this system, But the thing is, can you give me a feedback as of today 2019? How is it going?? Would you still recommend it?
I got a bit scared because people say if you get a leak on the water intercooler, it will go inside your engine, and thats kinda the main issue that makes me afraid of using these... I was hoping to talk to someone who has already did it...
Await Reply, And keep it going mate, nice videos!!
Best Regards,
Alex
What size was the PWR? I Think im getting the 8 inch.... or either frozen boost kit ...donno...on sw20
Hey lee! I love your mr2 spyder! Do you think you can tell me how much wider your body kit is from the stock body? Like from the door to the edge of your front fender! I’m trying to make a custom wide body kit but I want to find a good width to go off of! If you could let me know that would me much appreciated! Thank you, keep up on the good vids !!!
J fluent hi mate, measuring from half way down the door it's 3". But the fender is square and the door is curved so goes to about 4" at the top
SpyderLEE I appreciate it!!! That’s a big help!! Thanks a lot!
What do I think? I think I subscribed as this was another excellent video with great content, helps me make my decision. Cheers
very impressive solution. now, tell me again why y'all drive on the wrong side of the road? the video (on the driving view) made me jump out of my seat a couple of times... cheers!
Lol the steering wheel is on the wrong side too !!
Hell, the whole car is on the wrong side!! Bollocks!
top vid thanks for sharing
Couldn't you hurt your engine running it without the wastegate? How much of that could you get away with?
Trucks have no wastegates, they use the size of the turbine housing dictate the amount of boost the turbo can provide. Granted the flow/pressure effect from diesel to petrol may be different, but my comment is still relevant. In saying all that, i can't see it being a good thing to go without one
blow off is not wastegate. im sure he had wastegate..
Performed crappy... on 25psi boost will have 60c :)
No, if the temperature 'jumped' you had an air lock.
And the fact that your cruise temp was 15 degrees higher proves that.
When off boost, your chargecooler isn't doing anything, so if your air temps are hot, then hot water (or a lack of water) is still in the core, and that's from an air lock.
Holy shit you’re running that without a BOV??? NOT WISE! I thought you were a smart bloke until I heard that 😱
Kickin Addiction temporary thing whilst I sort out the piping. My bov is waiting to go back on. And to be honest at the low boost I’m running it’s not a massive issue anyway
Chill dude. Plenty of cars from the 80s never came with a BOV. Furthermore, diesels don't use a BOV either and there's absolutely nothing wrong with them.