🔵Feeding dry pollen sub to November bees
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2019
- Happy little bees gather sub on a warm November day. Also, we talk about why it is not very useful to us.
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Are they storing or using it?
Hey Ian, They will store it if I keep feeding it. The bees already have frames of beebread and we have been hitting them with patties till about 2 weeks ago. All of the colonies are slowing down to a couple frames of brood at most. What are your thoughts on dry sub? Do you see advantages to the broodnest in fall? Mine have just started showing interest and taking it in.
I don't think his bees like it, Lol.
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As long as they take it to use it, I see a benefit using a dry supplement in spring.
In the fall, I will supplement to use as they are forming the winter nest, then nothing.
Do you see a benefit supplementing through winter without pollen flow? Or is there steady winter pollen in your area ?
@@aCanadianBeekeepersBlogIan, I'm in Eastern Texas, our winters are nothing like yours, they are only a series of cold confronts. My bees are active in between fronts, so I supplement when they're flying so they will still have stores when they're clustered. When I see my bees harvesting corn meal from my chicken's feed, I know they need pollen.
Ian, Kamon, Here is a study as to why your bee's need pollen in the winter. Not only for brood rearing. It goes into depth of what happens to the health of the honeybee.
awwe check out that new veil. Thanx for the video
They are funny. We are always learning off the bees. Cool video Kamon
Thanks !!
Great video, thanks, Kamon!
Cool video Kamon. Those look like Al Roll Tide bees working! RTR
We just need Bama to do some rollin this weekend!
This was great thanks
Fun to watch only had few days of open feeding dry sub huge aster bloom this year and it turned cold stayed cold so we had pollen right up till the weather turned . Might see little flight tomorrow high 47 then their saying record cold weather rolling in
watching joe may showing what his bees do during a dearth, I see Kamon that you are right. My bees are flying from 12:30 till 3:30 before the weather changes here in Central Washington and I never have yet put out pollen sub. I have put fondant and camp sugar feeding on my bees, and think I should have done this too. My thoughts are to put spearmint and lemon grass oil drops in this food. If I would have done it like I should I would think Soy flour mixed with maybe teatree oil and the other essential oils and one other high protein flour I should have done. May be too late now. My bees start flying in the fall at around 50 degrees, and in the spring at around 40. that is 10c to springtime 4.5c
Mine didn't have much pollen stored last month, but now they are all over it.I'm going to give them all they want. They can't live thru winter if they don't have pollen.
I just ordered some dry sub. I'm going to try a little dry feeding, then I might use your recipe and make a pattie or two and see how they like it. I only have one colony, so everything I do is a new experiment (for me).
Pollen patties help me avoid wasting valuable food. I do it myself. Maybe my recipe will be useful to you
I've never had any luck with dry sub either. Maybe I'll set some out now just out of curiosity. I'm in central Ohio and there does always seem to be pollen coming in from somewhere March - October.
New beekeeper in PA, I've had dry pollen sub out for a month now in the hive top feeding box and my bees havent touched it but are sucking down the 2:1 syrup
I have never tried it in a top feeder. I just use some 4" PVC pipe feeders. There are plenty of videos on RUclips on how to make them. You can make some patties from the dry sub.
I’m jealous, I still haven’t seen 1 bee touch my dry pollen sub all year!
Sorry man! It is so frustrating that they won't take it in summer months here..... I could pull my hair out. I'm like, leave that crap corn pollen alone and focus on this!
Man are bees are twins, the start of your video looked like you been filming at my place this past week, I feel like pollen sub helps bees keep nutrition for fat layer,I hope at least lol
Interesting, Kamon!
Would the pollen not work better on the ground?
The thinking there, is that if the bees are positively charged by flying and static, the pollen would be earthed better to ground, being on the ground, as a flower stem would be like an earth stake and take the negative to ground, through the stem.
Just a thought.
Thanks for posting the video.
Yeah, my bees won't touch it if any pollen is coming in.
With all the rain we've had I keep some available for them just in case but we still have plenty of natural pollen coming in. Usually the only time mine take it is if we get in a dry period in the summer and the plants go into survival mode they will jump on it then. I feed mine patties because we have frames of brood year round but not enough pollen in our cool season.
Same with mine. I put it out anyway, tho.
What’s up dan! Ya mine are still refusing, I have not seen 1 bee touch it all year
@@privatebubba8876 Hello Bubba! It's raining now, I'm going to have to put some out.
@@jasongentry7405 Hello Jason! If they need it, they'll take it.
Nice video I think I'll stick to patties. The question is when? I live in the northern most part of New York it's very cold even now March 15th it's not freezing but it's cold enough to keep the bees in most of the day. I worry about putting pollen on the hives and having them ramp up too early but I also need my bees to really kick ass this year so I can expand and start making some money. I guess what I'm asking is, is there an ideal temperature or some sign I should be looking for to let me know when to put pollen patties on the hives in the spring?
is the pollen fresh or a substitute, if I don't have pollen what can I feed?
You partially answered my question at 2:50; this was accidental. Here's my question: If you make pollen substitute *available* in fall/winter, are you doing your bees a disservice by allowing them to brood when they normally wouldn't?
Good question! Bees are smarter than a beekeeper. They will make large supplies and go on winter vacation 😀
When feeding substitute, does the pollen sub need to be a fair distance away from the hives, similar to when feeding sugar water?
It doesn't and it won't incite robbing like syrup can. I prefer to have it 20 or so feet away but it doesn't have to be far. Sheds/barns and buckets works great for this
Hello Kamon, there weather has bee cold and wet here in NY so I want to give my bees some pollen sub. Where is the best location to place it? And how do the bees find it? Should it be placed like 10 feet from the hive? Thanks.
You don't want to place food for your bees that close to the hive. The immediate area around the hive (15 foot radius or so) is pooping ground so you want to see it out a ways away from them. If they want it, they'll find it.
Then where I'm at they have been having winter for a month no flying at all. any little spots of land that are cheep to retire for sale down there.
Can you tell me what temperature it is there with your bees flying like that it's only about 7 here in England not many bees flying Thanks for the time put in showing us your beekeeping.
upper 60's Jess. They will take it in the upper 40's on a sunny day though. They won't hit it this hard though
My girls fly at 50F or about 10C.
Mine were flying last Saturday in Birmingham UK, think it was around 13 degrees. Although we're hitting single figures in the day. I think tonight is supposed to be -3. I've got my socks on in bed.
I've been told not to feed anything except fondant till February. Is that right?
@@nuruzzaman4893 A good rule of thumb we use in North America is to hold back on pollen supplements until after the winter solstice. However, if you have a healthy hive that is expanding as spring approaches, you may not need pollen supplements at all.
Kamon....would you be willing to do a live chat on here? I think your viewers would love it
Laurel and I were just talking about that. It was an impossibility until yesterday. We just upgraded to fiber! Thankfully, our videos won't take half a day to upload. So, yeah, perhaps we will do that in the near future.
@@kamonreynolds That is great news! Make sure when you set up your chat room to allow viewiers to donate $ during the chat. Having "superchats" can be a nice way for your viewers to help your channel out financially
Hello, is this pollen?
This is not happening in N.E. Ohio.
Is it bad to have 2;1 syrup on hive during cold temps?
You can feed 2:1 down to 50F in regions where it gets colder they use fondant or dry sugar. You can mix pollen sub with the sugar for extra protein.
I live in Mississippi where it’s 20 one day and 70 the next. Just wasn’t sure if while feeding 2;1 in frame feeder if it would hurt hive on those cold days.
@@burleybeeyard Most likely not they just won't use it because it drops their body temps. My bees start flying at around 50F. I don't like putting syrup in the hive during our cool season because of humidity it can add to what the girls generate naturally. During cold periods that humidity can condensate and fall back down on the bees like rain inside the hive if not properly ventilated and in some regions insulated.
I thought that we should not give pollen to the bees in the winter so the queen won't lay as much during the winter months. Or did I get that information wrong and feed them pollen all year long
We start feeding patties in late January here. I find waiting till then works very well. Trying to feed here in November and December is a waste of effort as the bees don't readily want to brood.
I’d been told that giving pollen now in November fools the Queen into continuing to lay when she is supposed to be slowing down. If I have my feeders out they’ll keep hitting it hard. What is the right approach - feed the Sub or not?
Mann Lakes sells patties specifically formulated for winter called appropriately "winter patty".
@@privatebubba8876 That is what I bought
yea but they waste an awful lot