i wish there were PBA events where all ball spec restrictions are lifted and we could see the companies go full-crazy on ball design. i bet a ball that was designed from the ground up to be 20 lbs would be absolutely insane. probably wouldn't happen even if we had golf-tier money but it's fun to imagine.
I don't know if the Pins themselves would be built strong enough for Jesper or someone to hit them with a 20lb ball xD... I'd for sure tune in to watch
@@shorty808100 I mean they both are stupidly dense but no lead comes in at 11g/cm3 and tungsten is 19 g/cm3 about 80% denser. For context copper comes in at 9g/cm3 so lead gives only about a 20% advantage over copper.
Tungsten is too expensive. You may be able to get a foot long bar that's round like these holes for like 1k dollars. Idk if dude wants to spend that on a bar of Tungsten that he'll never use
Tungsten is more than twice the density of steel. I'm not sure how much it would cost in bulk but they do sell small tungsten fishing weights so it shouldn't be too hard to find.
@@SkateClipsAndTips Ya, but it is a lot less than 80k. I searched "tungsten scrap" on the most popular internet auction site and found tungsten shavings for $15 a pound. A quick google looks like BBs run about $4 a pound at the local shopping mart.
In the 1960' & 1970's the Action Bowlers Definitely were using balls that weighed 20+ pounds and also used soakers on heavy oil. I remember picking old manhattan rubber Balls off the rack and those things were so heavy it was sick. I rolled one and it hooked without even trying. They must have put a pound of weight in the right place!! It would just hook left at the arrows. Probably made some Action Bowlers money many years back.
Great job as always! (All of us & Packy could learn from this for the video just about messengers lol. He or anyone else doing that should use a heavier ball for such a video. You had crazy messengers on every other shot with this. Messengers as crazy as the way that mail man drives into your house.)
I’ve made the exact same video…the exact same with the bbs and everything 😂 where you think he got this idea lol ruclips.net/video/FwjKsL9bQu8/видео.html
This is exactly correct. But they cannot pour the hot lead into the ball. They would need to make a mold of the hole first. Then they can melt some lead into that exact shape. Sand some off the edges of the casting so it slides into the bowling ball easily. Then finish off with the epoxy pour to seal it all in.
Earl Anthony bowled a pro/am and exhibition match for youth where i bowled and worked over 30 years ago. Afterwards, the manager (my Dad) asked me to carry his bag out to his car. I was a wiry little kid just over 110 all dressed and there were only 2 balls in his bag but it had to weigh 45lbs at least. It was a long walk and 4 flights of stairs. After smiling and shaking a hundred hands all day, he looked a bit concerned as i picked it up. (before little wheels were invented) But I made it. Too winded to say anything but I made it. Thank you Ebonite. His ball crushed like the one you made, just a lot more often.
Heavy balls leave fewer flat 10s but more wrap 10s, because light hits don't have as much increased deflection compared to flush ones, raising the window of the wrap 10 action.
Dont need to if you plug the ball current hole with lead it is a very dens element. I belleve yoy can get to 40 pound but the ball may crack on impact but it will be cool to see
Dare you to make a 4 lbs ball strike. Or better yet, alternate between 4 and 20 lbs. balls for a game!! Keep these coming, they’re hilariously awesome!’
Do you think you could do lead golf tape inside those holes? I think that would be easy to find and you could add a ton of weight that way if you fill those holes up with it the same way you put thumb tape in.
Just add melted lead. You'd have to probably do this by making a slug outside the ball and then insert them into the holes. The BBs leave a lot of air gap.
I feel like you could get really creative with the cores, if you could figure out how to saw a ball in half and reconnect it with a really wide diameter pvc pipe and pvc glue system. Just hollow it out and put all kinds of stuff in there. Weights, extreme asymmetrics to get wobble, etc. Even liquid core...see how it effects things when the ball starts to grip out past the oil.
I remember in the 80's someone I knew who worked for Garrett Airesearch (a defense contractor who made parts for military aircraft) put a stick of depleted uranium in a ball. Weighed like 30 lbs. They took it from work (now Honeywell in Torrance, CA) to the nearby Bowl-O-Drome (also in Torrance but now it's a Bowlero). They could barely throw it down the lane lmao.
It's momentum you're looking for, not just weight. Momentum = Mass x Velocity. Bowl faster to get more momentum. You can easily see this when observing those huge men that can throw a ball very fast. They can make so much momentum they can destroy the lane equipment. They get so much pin carry, the pins go down if the hit any place close to the pocket. Most lane mangers will speak to them and if they don't slow down, eject them from the lanes!
Wow , your the second person i know that made a 20 lb ball. The first i witnessed was in about 1967 , the players name was Lenny Muscal out of Los Angeles. Nice to see the idea repeated again.
Sounds like a fun project. Lead (~11290kg/m3) is probably the most economical next step and you also might might be able to get away with melting and pouring it straight into the ball (lead has a melting point in the low to mid 300s so there may be enough thermal mass in the ball to absorb the heat and not crack) as well which would help further increase your weight over using shot or beebies. You could probably get a similiar outcome without risking the heat stress to the ball using cylindrical moulds to form the lead weights you put in the ball but that's more effort (probably worth it). Mercury (~13600kg/m3) is a step up again in terms of density, comes in a liquid form and possibly economical however probably too toxic to risk putting in a bowling bowl given a rupture will result in a nasty mess. Anyway best of luck.
Back in the old days when plugging material was not very resilient, mechanics would discover drops and streaks of mercury all over the pin decks and pins just after the bowlers practiced...
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Confirmed: Osmium ball @ 1M subs
If we get to 1M subs by the end of the year I will make an osmium bowling ball
@@220avg Remember to have 2 extra to submit to USBC Weights and Specs.
@@220avg ok screenshotting this and then promoting you as much as I can the rest of the year! haha
Lol packy bouta roll up in here
😂🤣😂😭😂😭🤣😂🤣
With his 50lb bowling pins
with a video I already made lol, he copied the video and the exact way I filled it, Copying someone is a great way to flatter me 😁
This guy actually did it better
@@JamesG-df2pz who did?
i wish there were PBA events where all ball spec restrictions are lifted and we could see the companies go full-crazy on ball design. i bet a ball that was designed from the ground up to be 20 lbs would be absolutely insane. probably wouldn't happen even if we had golf-tier money but it's fun to imagine.
My long term goal is to create a UPBA - Unprofessional Bowler’s Association. Where I host crazy tournaments like 6lb ball maybe 20lb ball etc
I don't know if the Pins themselves would be built strong enough for Jesper or someone to hit them with a 20lb ball xD... I'd for sure tune in to watch
@@220avg Might those things already be allowed in the existing Underground Bowling Association?
@@220avg I would watch that
You should look at using tungsten to weight it. Much denser than copper or even lead and can be found pretty cheap in the form of scrap granules.
Actually tungsten and lead weigh the same that’s why they use it in fake gold bricks and gold and lead basically weigh exactly the same
@@shorty808100 I mean they both are stupidly dense but no lead comes in at 11g/cm3 and tungsten is 19 g/cm3 about 80% denser.
For context copper comes in at 9g/cm3 so lead gives only about a 20% advantage over copper.
@@shorty808100 not even close.
Lead weighs 11.29 grams per cubic centimeter, tungsten is 19.28
Was gonna recommend tungsten as well, use it more than lead for fishing
Tungsten is too expensive. You may be able to get a foot long bar that's round like these holes for like 1k dollars. Idk if dude wants to spend that on a bar of Tungsten that he'll never use
5:38 Kicked that 4 pin forward into a different time zone.. Noice!
Tungsten would be the best material for the weight. It’s still kind of expensive, but it’s incredibly dense.
The waterjet channel made a 50 pound bowling ball out of tungsten. ruclips.net/video/H3ifb9iRkI0/видео.html
Wow! That thing was a beast! A bulldozer. Pins flew like crazy. Totally cool. Great experiment.
Use TUNGSTON. Very dense metal used for fishing weights. It’ll still be more expensive than bb but way heavier
Tungsten is more than twice the density of steel. I'm not sure how much it would cost in bulk but they do sell small tungsten fishing weights so it shouldn't be too hard to find.
Tungsten isn't cheap
@@SkateClipsAndTips Ya, but it is a lot less than 80k. I searched "tungsten scrap" on the most popular internet auction site and found tungsten shavings for $15 a pound. A quick google looks like BBs run about $4 a pound at the local shopping mart.
Yeah I was disappointed he didn't use tungsten..
You could look into Mallory it's used in balancing crank shafts, rods, and pistons.
I’m taking that ball to the Open Championship next year. I’m sure they won’t mind😏
😂
As long as it’s not a storm ball they’ll say it’s ok
@@220avg This is FACTS
It's not too soft right?
@@220avg LOL
You should definity take an other, heavier material to fill the ball up, like tungsten powder. you would get easy over 20 pounds.
In the 1960' & 1970's the Action Bowlers Definitely were using balls that weighed 20+ pounds and also used soakers on heavy oil. I remember picking old manhattan rubber Balls off the rack and those things were so heavy it was sick. I rolled one and it hooked without even trying. They must have put a pound of weight in the right place!! It would just hook left at the arrows. Probably made some Action Bowlers money many years back.
Great job as always! (All of us & Packy could learn from this for the video just about messengers lol. He or anyone else doing that should use a heavier ball for such a video. You had crazy messengers on every other shot with this. Messengers as crazy as the way that mail man drives into your house.)
I’ve made the exact same video…the exact same with the bbs and everything 😂 where you think he got this idea lol
ruclips.net/video/FwjKsL9bQu8/видео.html
tungsten, use it in pinewood derbies all the time.
I wonder if you could melt lead to fill the holes. Solid lead would pack denser than bbs. still 20.2 lbs is a very heavy bowling ball.
This is exactly correct. But they cannot pour the hot lead into the ball. They would need to make a mold of the hole first. Then they can melt some lead into that exact shape. Sand some off the edges of the casting so it slides into the bowling ball easily. Then finish off with the epoxy pour to seal it all in.
BB-core bowling balls may be the next big thing! Bismuth and tungsten would be good options to add weight.... or maybe some lead.
Use tungsten carbide scrap tooling !!!
Tungsten is a very dense metal and pretty cheap at old junkyards
Earl Anthony bowled a pro/am and exhibition match for youth where i bowled and worked over 30 years ago. Afterwards, the manager (my Dad) asked me to carry his bag out to his car. I was a wiry little kid just over 110 all dressed and there were only 2 balls in his bag but it had to weigh 45lbs at least. It was a long walk and 4 flights of stairs. After smiling and shaking a hundred hands all day, he looked a bit concerned as i picked it up. (before little wheels were invented) But I made it. Too winded to say anything but I made it. Thank you Ebonite. His ball crushed like the one you made, just a lot more often.
I know Earl Anthony was “old” but he wasn’t around before wheels were invented.
I’ve always wanted to roll like a 50lb kettlebell or something ridiculous heavy down the lane to see what would happen. Great video!
You should try drilling one or 2 more holes then fill it with lead or tungsten fishing weights
If that ball touches 1&3 the rest of the pins run in fear!
220 Average? What is the music title after you release the bowling ball??
You and packy need to bowl having both heavy balls and the 5lb pins
Or 6lb ball with 5lb pins
That’d probably be similar to throwing a 15lb at normal pins 😂
you owe that house some new wood. that was fun to watch
That ball has some crazy carry. This is an awesome video. Keep up the amazing video, and keep knocking them down!
Use high density tungsten alloy. Same material they use to counter balance crankshafts
Aarron is cool helping you out
Heavy balls leave fewer flat 10s but more wrap 10s, because light hits don't have as much increased deflection compared to flush ones, raising the window of the wrap 10 action.
In the bowling museum there is a 38-pound granite ball from 1929 with only 2 holes drilled into it, one for the thumb.
definitely use tungsten it would totally work, great video
As a long time Brunswick mechanic, you're not throwing that on my lanes!
But that looks fun.
Where do u work 😎
You can use tungsten or lead
🥹🥹always love the uploads
Ask a few local machine shops for some used carbide inserts. You can bust them up and use as filler.
need a game against packy with the heaviest balls xD
2 handed 220 for the win!!! Your name even has 2 in it!
I been thinking about it forever 😂
@@220avg it’s awesome both ways. I currently use 2 but I want to learn 2 handed and 1 handed. I just think it would be awesome to be able to do both.
Nice video bro!! Keep up the great videos ur growing every day❤️❤️
Mike: makes a new record ball *
Me: sands a 50lb kettlebell until it is a sphere *
Build a ball around a core of a 16 pound shot put.. Got to be a way to do it.
This is heavy, Doc
Part of me really wanted to see those plugs break open halfway down the lane.
Dont need to if you plug the ball current hole with lead it is a very dens element.
I belleve yoy can get to 40 pound but the ball may crack on impact but it will be cool to see
Make a ball out of a black hole since black holes are the most dense things in the universe.
how likely would it be to get a 7/10 split conversion?
Try using Tungsten, you can get fishing weights cheap.
Dare you to make a 4 lbs ball strike. Or better yet, alternate between 4 and 20 lbs. balls for a game!! Keep these coming, they’re hilariously awesome!’
INSANE!
Do you think you could do lead golf tape inside those holes?
I think that would be easy to find and you could add a ton of weight that way if you fill those holes up with it the same way you put thumb tape in.
man brother I bet the pin action is crazy 🤪 good shit brother as always ✌️💪
Wow. I can tell you have been working on that release. Really nice staying behind and under your ball. I need more practice. 😅
I would try lead or bismuth shot, or perhaps tungsten as others have mentioned...
Tungsten fishing sinkers are very dense
That was fun. Now let's get someone that can actually hook the ball
Nice! I would never be able to play with all that weight 😂
I think you’d be alright 😂
use Tungsten! a lot cheaper and really heavy
It's time to finally carry pins
Just add melted lead. You'd have to probably do this by making a slug outside the ball and then insert them into the holes. The BBs leave a lot of air gap.
I feel like you could get really creative with the cores, if you could figure out how to saw a ball in half and reconnect it with a really wide diameter pvc pipe and pvc glue system. Just hollow it out and put all kinds of stuff in there. Weights, extreme asymmetrics to get wobble, etc. Even liquid core...see how it effects things when the ball starts to grip out past the oil.
Those messengers 😂
Idea
Try to make your own ball like from scratch
You need match this monster with those 5lb pins that Packy and TJ Rock bowled with in one of the latest videos.
That would probably making it like throwing a 15lb against normal pins 🤣
Now combo it with the heavy pins packy just posted and see how that goes. Heavy pins and heavy ball
That’s probably the same as throwing a 15lb against normal pins 😂
What about melting lead in it? It would not waste any space in the hole, plus it’s heavy and cheap.
You could get lead fishing weights.
I remember in the 80's someone I knew who worked for Garrett Airesearch (a defense contractor who made parts for military aircraft) put a stick of depleted uranium in a ball. Weighed like 30 lbs. They took it from work (now Honeywell in Torrance, CA) to the nearby Bowl-O-Drome (also in Torrance but now it's a Bowlero). They could barely throw it down the lane lmao.
They still have it?! I hope ball machines don't break
@@coopergates9680 No, a material like that would have to be returned ASAP lmao.
I need this ball to make an appearance in a first 300 in crocs video
Were those copper BB's ... if you buy a cpl boxes of .22 cal and take them all apart, you might be able to achieve that weight.
Hilariously awesome decision to use clear resin to fill the holes.
Battle of the balls. Packy vs 220avg
Dude, I’m down to go and hunt for some osmium with you lol. Aaron is a great PSO also!
Let’s go! And yeah Aaron is one of the best IMO
Are those lead bb’s or steel? Tungsten carbide is heavier than lead
BB's ? Back in the early 60's we did that with mercury !
Next time leave room in the bbs so the weights could move then see what happens Make 1 big hole then fill the hole half full then throw the ball
Mechanic in the back: "WTF was that noise?"
the bruh sound effect got me 😭
Liquified lead maybe could work
This Making me wanna try out a 16lb ball 🎳
It definitely bullied the pins around. Fun video.
So lead or tungsten would work
It's momentum you're looking for, not just weight. Momentum = Mass x Velocity. Bowl faster to get more momentum. You can easily see this when observing those huge men that can throw a ball very fast. They can make so much momentum they can destroy the lane equipment. They get so much pin carry, the pins go down if the hit any place close to the pocket. Most lane mangers will speak to them and if they don't slow down, eject them from the lanes!
Use fishing weights. They're small and heavier then those bb's.
You have to take the surface down to 1000 or 500 and do it again
wow! I cant even bowl with a 13 pounder! thats heavy 😅
even went two handed to stick it to packy
Tungsten is your best bet, you know if your bowling the regional in az in a few weeks?
Use Mallory metal, shouldn't be too expensive and will be more dense.
Wow , your the second person i know that made a 20 lb ball. The first i witnessed was in about 1967 , the players name was Lenny Muscal out of Los Angeles. Nice to see the idea repeated again.
Perfect for unsanctioned leagues
Sounds like a fun project.
Lead (~11290kg/m3) is probably the most economical next step and you also might might be able to get away with melting and pouring it straight into the ball (lead has a melting point in the low to mid 300s so there may be enough thermal mass in the ball to absorb the heat and not crack) as well which would help further increase your weight over using shot or beebies. You could probably get a similiar outcome without risking the heat stress to the ball using cylindrical moulds to form the lead weights you put in the ball but that's more effort (probably worth it).
Mercury (~13600kg/m3) is a step up again in terms of density, comes in a liquid form and possibly economical however probably too toxic to risk putting in a bowling bowl given a rupture will result in a nasty mess.
Anyway best of luck.
Back in the old days when plugging material was not very resilient, mechanics would discover drops and streaks of mercury all over the pin decks and pins just after the bowlers practiced...
Never seen a tzone hit like that🤣
Funny how in a recently released packy video he bowls with someone who calls 16 pounds “man weight” so what does that make 20 pounds? “God weight”
Tungsten powder can be found relatively cheap online.
Looks like $60 for a pound and I’d need like 10 pounds 🥲
@@220avg I typed "tungsten scrap" into ebay and they had tungsten filings for $15 a pound.
shoulda made a bunch of assymetry and had that thing just rip on the back
I would try getting old wheel weights, and melting them down to put in the ball
Use lead. You can actually melt lead down and pour it into the ball.......maybe. Lead weighs much more than the steel that bb's are made of.
Dread it. Run from it. Ringing 10 still happens.
Try it witth tungsten than you could get more easily
I had a friend that a black beauty ball that weighed 45 lbs, but he never drilled it.