Older balls are still good. Long as they have been kept in decent shape and don't have a ton of games on them. Eventually the oil and use just gets in the ball and air hardens the cover. The only advantage to buying top of the line new balls is you know the cover isn't dried out and there's no games on it
@@stormb28 some. It just depends on how good the condition is. That's literally the deciding factor. For example if it's been in a box/bag for 10yrs it'll be just as good as a new ball. If it's been sitting in the pro shop on a shelf for 7yrs and has been used it will be hit or miss
I still have a og defiant, of black widow solid reactive, the faball enterprise blue hammer and blue pearl hammer urethane, marvel and marvel s , zero gravity, between me , my dad and my older brother we have ALOT of old bowling balls from 2010 and before
99% true regarding games on a ball, only one ball I ever owned that did not die or weaken on me was the Storm Paradigm. I had resurfaced it so much the logos were almost gone and it still hooked like it did out of the box with easily 500+ games on it. Got it when it released in 2006 and stupidly got rid of it before moving in 2014, the Columbia 300 Alter Ego was also another one that stood the test of time for me.
@@AyoMrB Thanks. I never threw a Teal Rhino. My first ball I threw was the Johnny Pertraglia LT48, I believe that was rubber. Im 68 and very old school.
The only two oldies I have drilled up right now are a 2011 C300 Freeze, as well as a 2011 Hammer Epidemic. Just scored a NIB Hammer Arson this week. I also have the first 4 Ebonite Missions (OG, 2.0, 250k, X) pretty much on display on my dresser.
I still throw my Brunswick Fury Pearl from 2007, love that ball, I just know what its going to do. You can find some pop up here and there. I recognize a few of these balls from back in high school though, I know that roto grip Cell ball was a great ball.
When I first started bowling and wanted to get my first reactive ball, I went to Facebook marketplace to see if I can find something for cheap to get me started. I got lucky and found a truck picker who came across over 50 used balls from a trailer and sold me all the ones not cracked for $50 😳 I ended up with 26 balls dating around 2008-2012. Of all those balls I ended up taking the Track 505T and 912T and Track Blue Sparkle Spare for my arsenal. I eventually sold the 505T for $50 and donated my 912T as I started getting new equipment. I still use the track spare ball and I have no plans to replace it! I’ve sold all of the balls (and gifted some too) and made a good bit of profit 😁 One of the balls in that set was a Mutant Cell and that thing was angular! I didn’t use it because it was 14lb, but it didn’t take long to find a buyer for that!
It's interesting that all of those balls look very smooth down lane and want to get into a roll as soon as they hit friction. Not a lot of back-end snap to them compared to a lot of modern bowling balls. I wonder if that has to do with the fact that they're all plugged multiple times or if it's more a result of changes in oil layouts over the last 10+ years
I bowled as a youth and then got back into it around 2008 in my early 20's. Wes Malott made those cell and cell pearl balls look amazing and I always wanted one but never got them. Same with the Virtual Gravity.
this just shows you only need one solid ball and you’ll be good for years. i got too obsessed with getting a bunch of balls when in reality having one strike ball and one spare ball is all you need
I still occasionally throw my Danger Zone Red Alert from 2005. But, to this day, I still use my C-System Alpha Max every time I open bowl or in league. I have a Knockout black and blue and it hardly sees action.
loved my invasion. i was devastated when it was stolen from my car. they got the chrome and yellow power groove as well. i took a hiatus from the game over that.
I saw that invasion on eBay. Cool that you got it. Me and my dad swear that the infinite physix rolls and moves identical or very close to the invasion
Can you get Forrest to build an old arsenal like that too and you guys throw them on league.. You can also challenge other youtubers to get some old balls too and do some matches against each other
Wes Mallott gave me a brand new roto grip cell pearl during the US OPEN when I was working at Brunswick zone Carolier and we got to talking about ball speed and rev rate and he said “what weight ball do you throw?” I told him 16# and he said hold on a sec, and he came back in with a brand new cell pearl and I still use it today as my primary ball, until my Black widow 3.0 gets drilled
Lol I'm still throwing used balls from my teenage years. I just rolled 257 with a 30+ year old ball (no maintenence at all). I gotta get some new equiptment.
If i could have any bowling balls it would be from visionary and 3 lane 1 balls the pink panthers and the teal buzzsaw . But i could put 2 to 3 arsenals out of my dads old visionary bowling balls . Plus he was on test staff
There is such thing as coefficient of restitution. There is a max level for how strong balls are able to be in terms of amount of deflection. So in a way, yeah they are because of the way the rules are for making balls.
A cool vid could be you attempting to bowl another three hundred with the ball you bowled your first with and if that’s too wz you could add a handicap
Good video; I've been getting increasingly annoyed at Bowling RUclipsrs who say how a +10-year-old ball will go straight as an arrow. That doesn't make sense, specifically on a med volume or slightly burned house shot. Then again, they're all staffers or own proshops so....
Do a league with the balls. Compare averages to newer balls that you have in a current league. Post a video/videos on updates of that. I would like to see how that compares to some of these so called modern day house shots. I bowl at a couple different spots here in OH and WOW some places I swear make up there own oil pattern. Half the time if I ask what the pattern is they have no idea.
8:26 shot goes 13 to 5. Next shit goes 16 to 8. Both strike. God nobody would average 200 on anything truly challenging. I'm a 220 house bowler myself, tool 4 years off and went back to my first night of league last week. Shoot 180 212 245 267. Front 7 and I think all 7 looked different going down the lane. Lol
@@220avg fair, I couldn't see your feet. Yeah I don't mind feeling like a boss shooting big games 😏 I get it. I prefer/miss wood lanes for the fact that you actually have transition. I can pretty much throw my 4 games without changing ball or position. Usually I start off with the solid and end up changing to pearl if the ball loses its reaction. Bowl on brother
Mark Roth Only Threw Plastic Bowling Balls. You should build an Arsenal of Plastic and see if you can score with plastic... Like Mark Roth THE LEGEND would do.
Can we get some league vids, or are you just gonna stick with more of this kind of content? And if you want to just do these videos on this channel, will league vids go on your vlog channel?
Not sure what you have been working on, but your form is looking more dialed and controlled! These older balls are probably going to work great for your form you have currently
Older balls are still good. Long as they have been kept in decent shape and don't have a ton of games on them. Eventually the oil and use just gets in the ball and air hardens the cover. The only advantage to buying top of the line new balls is you know the cover isn't dried out and there's no games on it
Yeah, on your local house shot. Get on actual patterns and report back.
@@stormb28 some. It just depends on how good the condition is. That's literally the deciding factor. For example if it's been in a box/bag for 10yrs it'll be just as good as a new ball. If it's been sitting in the pro shop on a shelf for 7yrs and has been used it will be hit or miss
@@stormb28 woahhhh tough guy over here
I still have a og defiant, of black widow solid reactive, the faball enterprise blue hammer and blue pearl hammer urethane, marvel and marvel s , zero gravity, between me , my dad and my older brother we have ALOT of old bowling balls from 2010 and before
99% true regarding games on a ball, only one ball I ever owned that did not die or weaken on me was the Storm Paradigm. I had resurfaced it so much the logos were almost gone and it still hooked like it did out of the box with easily 500+ games on it. Got it when it released in 2006 and stupidly got rid of it before moving in 2014, the Columbia 300 Alter Ego was also another one that stood the test of time for me.
300 attempt with the invasion for another throwback thrusday that would be so hype
I love your cat. I still have my last ball I shot 300 with back when I retired from bowling in 1994., Its a purple Rhino Pro
That's awesome! I didn't even know they had a purple one. How is it compared to Teal?
@@AyoMrB Thanks. I never threw a Teal Rhino. My first ball I threw was the Johnny Pertraglia LT48, I believe that was rubber. Im 68 and very old school.
The only two oldies I have drilled up right now are a 2011 C300 Freeze, as well as a 2011 Hammer Epidemic. Just scored a NIB Hammer Arson this week. I also have the first 4 Ebonite Missions (OG, 2.0, 250k, X) pretty much on display on my dresser.
2010 felt like yesterday ....... Time flys
Thank you Michael for all of your content and cat! 😺❤
yea the 2000 are yesterday, last week and last month 90s are last year and a few years back lol
But it seems like it's been 2020 for the last 8 years.
I still throw my Brunswick Fury Pearl from 2007, love that ball, I just know what its going to do. You can find some pop up here and there. I recognize a few of these balls from back in high school though, I know that roto grip Cell ball was a great ball.
When I first started bowling and wanted to get my first reactive ball, I went to Facebook marketplace to see if I can find something for cheap to get me started. I got lucky and found a truck picker who came across over 50 used balls from a trailer and sold me all the ones not cracked for $50 😳 I ended up with 26 balls dating around 2008-2012. Of all those balls I ended up taking the Track 505T and 912T and Track Blue Sparkle Spare for my arsenal. I eventually sold the 505T for $50 and donated my 912T as I started getting new equipment. I still use the track spare ball and I have no plans to replace it! I’ve sold all of the balls (and gifted some too) and made a good bit of profit 😁 One of the balls in that set was a Mutant Cell and that thing was angular! I didn’t use it because it was 14lb, but it didn’t take long to find a buyer for that!
Dope shoes! I just got the same ones. So darn comfy and easy with the BOA.
Digging the release angle!
Throw the Invasion. You looked very smooth and comfortable with that ball. Best I’ve seen you throw in a while. And I dig your shoes. 😊
Agreed
I’d love to see you review the nu blue hammer if possible
Ikr? On paper, it sounds, and looks like the perfect tweener ball for me!
Old balls… That was the name of one of the teams in my league 🤪
This makes me want to get my Original Hyroad back out and roll it😁
Just get a new one, they still make 'em
Awesome video Mr 220 no one does it like you
It's interesting that all of those balls look very smooth down lane and want to get into a roll as soon as they hit friction. Not a lot of back-end snap to them compared to a lot of modern bowling balls. I wonder if that has to do with the fact that they're all plugged multiple times or if it's more a result of changes in oil layouts over the last 10+ years
I bowled as a youth and then got back into it around 2008 in my early 20's. Wes Malott made those cell and cell pearl balls look amazing and I always wanted one but never got them. Same with the Virtual Gravity.
White shoes 🔝🔝
I have a Trauma Recovery for sale. It was Storms first particle ball.15lb, 1.5 drill
I’ve always wanted to get my hands on a virtual gravity! It’s such a beautiful ball! Nice video sir
The VG and invasion faded like crazy to the point of looking like a whole new ball. The invasion honestly looked sick like that.
My first reactive ball was a roto grip rouge cell, and I still have it to this day, it's been a great ball!
That was "Retro Cool"!!! Good stuff bro!
Maybe try the UFO spinner bowling! Not very many of those videos out there from American bowlers. That would be a fun video bro 👊
I'm still throwing my Invasion on league nights :-)
You and the Kritzers bowling underwater.
man you might need to keep rolling these. Maybe not the Marvel but everything else is pure fire.
Man that invasion takes me back. I can't believe you pulled that out. Shot multiple three hundred with that ball
Roto grip is still in my bag, also threw a perfect game in league with it, back when it was fresh..
Your swing is looking good Michael . Love your shoes too!
this just shows you only need one solid ball and you’ll be good for years. i got too obsessed with getting a bunch of balls when in reality having one strike ball and one spare ball is all you need
just shot my first 300 with the old virtual gravity nano, love the old storm ball motion
All these need to be re-released! Nice Mike 💪
"Over the line!! Mark it zero!" lol
I still occasionally throw my Danger Zone Red Alert from 2005. But, to this day, I still use my C-System Alpha Max every time I open bowl or in league. I have a Knockout black and blue and it hardly sees action.
Cool video talk tech old bowling ball Micheal
220...Thanks for sharing your experience. That last ball looked great leaving your hand, what weight are they?
loved my invasion. i was devastated when it was stolen from my car. they got the chrome and yellow power groove as well. i took a hiatus from the game over that.
I saw that invasion on eBay. Cool that you got it. Me and my dad swear that the infinite physix rolls and moves identical or very close to the invasion
My dad had a virtual gravity that had like 12 games on it so I got it re drilled was surprised at how much it hooked
I'm tryna see you with that lane 1 crystal bomb man that thing is insane on some dry lanes, I shot 203 with mine
My 1995 Arsenal.
Columbia White dot
Track Critical Mass
Teal rhino pro
Burgundy hammer
Can you get Forrest to build an old arsenal like that too and you guys throw them on league..
You can also challenge other youtubers to get some old balls too and do some matches against each other
Wes Mallott gave me a brand new roto grip cell pearl during the US OPEN when I was working at Brunswick zone Carolier and we got to talking about ball speed and rev rate and he said “what weight ball do you throw?” I told him 16# and he said hold on a sec, and he came back in with a brand new cell pearl and I still use it today as my primary ball, until my Black widow 3.0 gets drilled
I have a Ebonite Blue Gemstone. Plastic ball with a nasty core. lol
Had a 760 with the invasion and that held until 792 with the widow legend. I like the mutant cell pearl better than the original
Imma need that marvel off your hands 🤣🤣
Lol I'm still throwing used balls from my teenage years. I just rolled 257 with a 30+ year old ball (no maintenence at all). I gotta get some new equiptment.
The virtual gravity was my first storm ball my brother got me and I love this ball so much
If i could have any bowling balls it would be from visionary and 3 lane 1 balls the pink panthers and the teal buzzsaw . But i could put 2 to 3 arsenals out of my dads old visionary bowling balls . Plus he was on test staff
I still have my first VirtualGravity. The one that got me to my first 299 game! I still throw it from time to time!
Phase 2 hy- road Pearl, vibe, zero gravity. Most of my arsenal is still a 2010 arsenal.
You should do a full arsenal of the marvel bowling balls
The surface of the lanes makes the balls look CGI’d but they are not
I'd love to see you throw the virtual and invasion in league
This makes me want to find my first purchased ball, the Hammer Epidemic.
The balls looked great. Question: How many degrees of tilt do you have?
Wish I knew you were looking for some old equipment I have Cell Pearl and Marvel
Does it effect the ball reaction any when they have been plugged a lot??
Virtual gravity and Virtual energy were in my bag back then
The solid cell hooked so much just soaked up a lot of oil.
So awesome!
its almost like....they release balls over and over for no reason and lie about improved performance
There is such thing as coefficient of restitution. There is a max level for how strong balls are able to be in terms of amount of deflection. So in a way, yeah they are because of the way the rules are for making balls.
A cool vid could be you attempting to bowl another three hundred with the ball you bowled your first with and if that’s too wz you could add a handicap
Good video; I've been getting increasingly annoyed at Bowling RUclipsrs who say how a +10-year-old ball will go straight as an arrow. That doesn't make sense, specifically on a med volume or slightly burned house shot. Then again, they're all staffers or own proshops so....
Marvel was the shiznit!!! And the marvel pearl was so good too.
Nice!!!
I still throw a 2012 900 Global Jewel every week late in the set. Ball punishes the pins
Do a league with the balls. Compare averages to newer balls that you have in a current league. Post a video/videos on updates of that. I would like to see how that compares to some of these so called modern day house shots. I bowl at a couple different spots here in OH and WOW some places I swear make up there own oil pattern. Half the time if I ask what the pattern is they have no idea.
8:26 shot goes 13 to 5. Next shit goes 16 to 8. Both strike. God nobody would average 200 on anything truly challenging. I'm a 220 house bowler myself, tool 4 years off and went back to my first night of league last week. Shoot 180 212 245 267. Front 7 and I think all 7 looked different going down the lane. Lol
I moved in and threw it slower on that one. But your point still remains that house shots are easy. They’re supposed to be, lol
@@220avg fair, I couldn't see your feet. Yeah I don't mind feeling like a boss shooting big games 😏 I get it. I prefer/miss wood lanes for the fact that you actually have transition. I can pretty much throw my 4 games without changing ball or position. Usually I start off with the solid and end up changing to pearl if the ball loses its reaction. Bowl on brother
I still have a storm fired up in my bag from 2007
Me and a friend own a roto grip enternal cell I think it’s a pearl
Asking for second time. Bowl with roller blades or quads on
Mark Roth Only Threw Plastic Bowling Balls. You should build an Arsenal of Plastic and see if you can score with plastic... Like Mark Roth THE LEGEND would do.
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You did 2010 now you should do 90ies to y2k balls and compare
Damm some of these bowling balls are older than me
Who needs a knife to open a box when you have a drill bit
We need a kitty 🐱 sweater!
Can we get some league vids, or are you just gonna stick with more of this kind of content? And if you want to just do these videos on this channel, will league vids go on your vlog channel?
It annoys me when low average players talk about bowlingbalss as if a ball makes you a ten times better player. 90% skill 10% ball
shit i still bowl with a original blue hammer faball. I won state with a ball thats older than my ass in 09
Challenge 2010 with forest?
Of course if you're going to do 2010 than you have to do 2000 arsenal
Swing is looking great
Not sure what you have been working on, but your form is looking more dialed and controlled! These older balls are probably going to work great for your form you have currently
Bowl against someone born in 2010.
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1st. ?
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@220avg Is that gold I see?? Yay!!
@@jasper799i will get you next time
@@emanuelorozco3443 😉
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