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Didn't want to drag the video on too much, but its funny because outside of balance philosophy change, we have the on-fire system and every change towards ranked being a step closer to what we already had in Overwatch 1 💀
They’re going to start removing the new heroes and just rerelease Overwatch 1
cant wait for when they bring loot boxes back and make the game $20 as a selling point in overwatch 3
One shots have felt way too overpowered since they got rid of the second tank, reduced the number of barriers and reduced cc.
"N-Dough-Thermic" = Endothermic
also cassidy/Mei meta?
@@jyacthepianoman I would honestly pay 20$ to have lootboxes back and the battlepass
Kinda funny they added Pinocchio after lying about The story mode 👺
Every skin they had in the store has been a funny joke
Oh I get it
the cardboard skin was a metaphor for their credibility
Would be funny if that skin was programmed to have the nose get bigger everytime someone in chat mentioned the PvE mode
@@CROSSFADE69 the Cyberpunk 2077 skin is a nod to outdoing Cyberpunks devs in the amount of Fail
Next month they will be adding 1 tank player to each team to accelerate queue times
Does that mean 2 tanks in games again?
@@godisgood2176 i think this is only a joke haha, although i’d love 6v6 back tbh
@@nonnny_ fr 5v5 is so bad
"accelerate queue times", no it would have the opposite effect.
@@dresdi Playing tank in 5v5 is just counterwatch. Pick the counter or lose
Just like people used to tell other players after their heroes got nerfed: just learn another hero
you don't have to be a meta slave you can make it to top 500 with anyone except lifeweaver lol, just play who is fun and improve
@@lilwintery6434 does it count if i’m top 500 ana and sometimes play weaver in comp 👉🏼👈🏼
@@MikasaaOW no it doesn't, you gotta one trick like a ball main for it to count
@@lilwintery6434 currently onetricking LW, dropped a whole division lmao
Skill issue
tbf any step towards ow1 is a step forward at this point
No its not. You're viewing ow1 with rose tinted glasses. This patch is horrible and whilst it addresses the sniper issue, going back to CC heavy comps is what killed OW1 in the first place.
@@AbbyAZK no goats and double shield did...
@@hambster9759 Yes and that's exactly what those compositions replied upon to succeed, high sustainability without being able to be contested, the CC aided enabling that playstyle, Dive couldn't break double shield for that very reason.
@@AbbyAZK they could have balanced around 6v6, switching to 5v5 was the lazier option. They also could have made tank be split into main and off tank to prevent double barrier
bro i don't wanna go back to level 0
Blizzard: We couldn’t kill the Game entirely with the pve lies so let‘s try it with mei buffs
Mei's slowing affect is already annoying as hell, imagine bring back freeze. Might as well bring back McCree flashbang
we need a OW1 legacy server badly... i bet 80% of the players will switch to that.
Mei and Cass changes will make it easier for your team to follow up and eliminate the target. It actually buffs their power a lot.
Mei is one of those characters, that did NOT need a buff.
maybe if mei wasnt so annoying this would be fine
Mei already has too much damage, too much self protection, and a team wiping ult. She didn't need buffs. People that can't play her well just need to practice aiming with her because she can obliterate most heros and get a redo with her healing.
@@Halo3ninja28 "team wiping ult" maybe in bronze 5, im sure even from bronze 4 people know how to escape her ult LMAOO
Must not have played Overwatch 1 huh
I feel like 1 shots were ok during 6v6 but once they got rid of the second tank you lost a lot of protection from Hanzo and Widow and in higher ranks it's devastating because they would quickly pick you off
maybe give widow her old health back to balance
imagine reaper, before you can just headshot him with hanzo, now he need to be headshoted 2 times + a body shot from cassidy.
Oneshot are the counter to meatsponges, I agree they should nerf it in some way but increasing the time to kill always lead to frustrating meta ( goats, doubleshield, immortal orisa...)
@@kristinekirsteine7299 She already is back at 175 if that's what you're talking about
@@dragonslayer1672 they meant give her back 200 hp
@@pd_ab7945 oh I see, I'd be fine with a trade like that
Yes, buff Mei is exactly what the game needed to be good again, really good idea
Aren't they reducing her damage by like 45% tho?
While I think that good widowmakers can be really annoying, I do think the one shot for her is fine. I feel like it plays a big part of widow's kit as a sniperhero
Key word “Sniper” why would she be doing regular assault rifle damage with that bazooka of a gun ?
@@eddboi7696 its not a bazooka of a gun, it literally looks like a barbie doll if their franchise turned goth
@@eddboi7696 right but sigma holds a whole black hole in his hand why isn’t he immediately vapourizing every human in the vacinity? Why is Winston’s electric gun permanently freezing targets and restricting muscle movement? Why isn’t genjis blade one shotting because he cuts through their whole body?
Widow will have to get closer to Ashe's range to one shot so it's gonna be a tougher call to choose between both. But Widow's grappling hook is still a tad better than Ashe's coach gun for escape/mobility IMO
at least aim is required to play widow unlike hanzo
I think they're pushing for Mei Cassidy cc to make players use Lifeweaver more
I REALLY want the Pinocchio zen skin, it's the only skin I've been looking forward to after season 4 was announced. But, if I bought this skin I would be supporting Blizzard and their arsenal of dumb decisions so sadly I won't get it.
@Ryan Reynolds foot stool same here tbh
there is not such a thing as ethical consumption under capitalism. just buy it
Quit whining my guy
@@CasualZombiesEnjoyer but if everyone thought that, no one would stop
im dead fucking tired with "hurr hurr my decision does not matter" It fucking does. Stop supporting pedophiles.
i feel like with the widow nerf her health should be reverted back to 200 since she's going to have to play a little closer to the fight
i dont mind 1 shot heros like widow specially because there are heros like sombra and dive tanks that can counter her and others but like thats what i think
Fair point, however: there are some maps in the game that favor wm way too much and give so much control over sightlines. Playing against a WM with high acc is miserable imo this is a healthy change for the game
Hanzo is the bigger problem Imo. The sniper counters being tanks really doesn't work in 5v5.
@@Volker_A4 hanzo got scatter arrow removed exactly bc of this and it’s kind of funny how he still shreds tanks
One shots shouldn't be in the game period
i get your point, but in higher ranks the supports are ALWAYS peeling for widow if u dive with sombra, dive tanks etc. I also believe that changing an entire team comp to counter ONE person because of how oppressive they are is not that healthy for the game
I think that Cassidy's Magnetic Grenade change was made to bring back some of the combo that he used to have with his right click. Now the enemy won't be completely stunned, but still unable to get away, making them easier targets for Fan the Hammer.
I genuinely have no idea what Blizzard is thinking when they have repeatedly buffed Mei over and over again recently. With her only main counter being a literal one shot being essentially removed she's just going to become super OP and always picked. I hate this game and the developers.
They’re literally taking away the reason I play as widow and hanzo
with mercy pocket we kind of need one shot heroes considering its the only consistent counter to mercy pocket
then kill mercy first
Considering how much mercy in general breaks such as with damage threshholds and how annoying she can be pocketing, that's more of a "mercy needs fixing" problem than a "we need one shots" problem.
@@Doctor011 Good luck killing Mercy players at higher ranks lmao
@@Doctor011 good mercy players in master-gm don't ever die because of her absurd mobility that's the problem
Man this game really does suck 😢 they say they’re trying to make it more balance but all they’re doing is taking all the fun out of it!
i feel that it hasnt been that balanced as they think it is
it's not "Taking the fun out" to nerf Widowmaker and Hanzo. There are a few heroes that suck the fun out of the game for the 9 other players in the team, and those two are part of them (Sombra too, but she's getting a rework. Mei too, but she's getting a rework)
Learn to understand that this is a teamgame and that the only fun that should be had is if the team as a whole does well, not if one widowmaker just one taps the entire enemy team over and over from 200 meters away.
@@blinkachu5275 +1
They need to make Mei into a tank. I find her to be too unkillable with her cryofreeze and ice wall. If they're gonna keep buffing her slowing effect they might as well bring the original freeze back
bro doomfist is less of a tank than mei
There was a experimental mei tank build tested once and it was universally the least fun any of the participants had ever had in their life's so I don't think it's coming
You just suck at the game 🤷🏽♂️
Tank Mei doesn’t even make sense anyways. Mechanically and aesthetically…
@@siren_atlantica to be fair that's any game mei's in
Based, she also has too much utility with her wall for a dps imo. Specially because no other dps has something like it .
Ow2 was never an upgrade 💀
The more they revert the bigger this "update" becomes
The biggest update is them bringing back 6v6
Not surprised because this game and the company itself are horrendous. EA seems like an angel compared to Blizzard. They need to remove the "2" and bring back loot boxes. They straight up scammed us and gave us a WORSE version of the game. Overwatch "2" belongs in the trash
i think a damage falloff nerf is exactly what widow needs, you need the skill to hit the one-shots but at certain ranges they are more than obnoxious and impossible to deal with. Hanzo, on the other hand, I feel is in a much more difficult spot. If you take away his ability to one shot, he doesn't have anything to make up for it. Low-tier ult, easy to punish, average mobility at best, etc. Without a kit rework, Hanzo is a difficult character to change so drastically.
Removing one shots and adding back cc in 5v5 as a genji player I don’t approve of this
removing one shots is good for genji tho
next update we added a new tool you can buy to buff hanzo to be able to 1 shot for the low price of 5.99USD
the one shot nerf was unecessary, yes , is tiring to get killed by one shot, but thats the point of widowmaker and hanzo, they are snipers
They dont belong in overwatch. Period
Learn to dive them lol
@DingerDudez84 ah, yes, coordination in overwatch
@@ToastNBricklin Silver moment
Exactly that nerf is dumb
one shot really depends on somebody's time-to-kill, so I feel like that was unecessary hahaha
Mei and Cass buff is an indirect nerf to Ball, Dva, Doomfist(again...) and Melee/close range tanks.
Those steps are backwards in the sense of the first game, but waaaayyy forward in terms of evolution and game play balance.
Hanzo's and Widow's one shot ability is the reason why so few are good at playing as them. They take couple of skill to master. How would you even kill someone with Hanzo then if he couldn't one-shot? Try to kill someone with bodyshot? Hope they consider to keep it as it already is. The previous time they changed a one-shot-character, it didn't go that well (Junkrat).
they said that he'll still be able to oneshot 200 hp targets, but not 250. so most dps and support. im not sure where brig stands yet though
Dead game nerfing some
Of the most popular characters is gonna be the final nail
Thanks for the update dittoz :)
I reckon with life weaver they should make it that life grip grants invincibility to the person targeted for 1 second and then they can press the interact key to be pulled to life weavers current position. I think that will change the annoying part of the ability. The least they can do tho is make it so the person life gripped can move their camera around so it’s less disorienting.
I think the way they're nerfing widow is making her irrelevant. She's gonna be a sniper that can't snipe. 50 meters is not very far and that distance can be closed unbelievably fast.
Don't enjoy fighting Hanzo in the slightest. But, I'm actually more frustrated with his up close potential.
I don't mind actually getting sniped. I have a problem with him getting to attempt an instakill headshot and then getting to use spam arrow in close range.
they stripped so much out of Overwatch just to update the engine and install a store, they have always been behind the 8 ball trying to make quality of life updates to get this on the same level as the original game.
It's just even worse now given what's happened.
Best way to fix wm imo is remove her mobility options or nerf them heavily. If you look at someone like the sniper in TF2 he has 0 mobility options which means once he's in a close counter fight he has no choice but to engage or die.
For Hanzo make his foot steps louder and also hit him with a harder cd on his lunge and remove his wall climbing ability or find a way to minimize his ability to use it often.
My solution would be to make snipers sitting ducks which is a valid trade off they have the most kill potential so they should have their mobility options heavily reduced as a trade off.
Defeating the purpose of having Snipers if they're nerfed that gravely.
Hanzo's One-shots have really become a nuisance in the recent seasons. I'm glad they're at least helping the 250 HP heroes. Wouldn't mind him getting a 1.5x multiplier on headshots though, with other buffs to compensate.
Widow is a diffrent topic, because she's far more polarized in how weak her other abilities are. Even though a Widow carry is not fun to be up against, I don't think it should be removed. Reducing the falloff distance is a good way to go. Maybe also reduce her potential to one-shot in close range and instead buff her Primary?
if i remember correctly, the memes of hanzo tossing logs at you is because they never fixed or planned to change his hurtbox for his arrows vs head areas.
so he can aim literally above, to the sides and even top of the chest and it counts as a headshot, which is my issue since forever. the 1.5x damage wouldnt be bothersome if the shots were actually rewarded from landing them via accuracy, like widow who is pinpoint in her shots.
@@jeydomo I believe they reduced the projectile size some time in 2016 and then said "There are no smaller projectiles, so it's fine".
It would be less of a problem if it was more like Widow's skill requirement. But I don't see how that could work with a bow.
@Bisalissy considering the damage fall off, arc, projectile speed, fire rate and lack of ammunition/reload, I feel like it's stronger for no reason vs a rifle.
They better buff genji with this mei buff
When? Because going back to getting a lootbox every profile level up would actually give me a reason to play the game again.
Seriously, finished the battlepass 6 weeks ago!
It really feels like they don't want tank players to have fun in this game anymore, we all know that Mei buff will affect mostly tanks that already have problems with CC because almost all of it is directed at them so they are constantly hacked, slept, moved, stunned, slowed, antied and discorded etc. And this is on top of other tank problems like being controlled by supports of both teams and not having enough burst damage to outdamage support healing each other making any dive attempt very high risk with only decent reward.
I had the most fun in Overwatch when Mei were removed from ranked
As a Mein, I didn't think she needed to get any changes tbh and was fine the way she was. But one thing that they prob should have mentioned was the change to her damage with her primary fire lol... it's going from 100-55 so while she will slow you more over time it won't do as much damage as it has been in the past. I honestly rarely use her primary fire and mainly just use secondary.... well I say that but I swapped the shots so technically her secondary is my primary, so that it feels more natural aiming it. Hence why even if you go flyer against me, I can still hit you up there so all you're doing is delaying the inevitable 😉😉as I'm real good at predicting and tracking with her 😈😈😈😈
I think the one-shot nerf, it makes sense considering there are many ways to buff that damage for snipers (window, discord, dmgbuff-mercy, etc). AB's mindset might be saying "okay, let's not make it THAT easy to one-shot a target."
I mean if Hog lost his one shot, which just punished bad positioning and had a limited range, they should definitely nerf the snipers who can one shot you from across the map and through covers and shields.
Love that theyre removing one shots. Justice for roadhog
They are treading on thin ice here, if the slow is too strong, Cass might just be able to fan the hammer and easily kill you, effectively making his grenade a flashbang 2.0
I think Lifeweaver's healing is fine, he just needs more damage output to increase his survivability. I hate being chased down and killed by a no-skill Moira or a Tracer in the backline and not being able to do anything except put down a platform and go up with it
Edit: Also his hitbox is massive!!
If only. Bc it’s not like I paid $60 for that game or anything
Thank God, Widow and Hanzo dont belong in a 5v5 setting with one shots. They should've been reworked into tanks seasons ago like Doomfist, but for some reason, they only deemed Doomfist's (despite actually requiring skill) dmg potential too much in 5v5 and not every other actual braindead one shot hero.
Edit: Junkrat next, lets gooo! 😎
how would you make widow and hanzo tanks?
@@StarryNight0112 How and the actuality of it isn't really the point. I was taking shots at Blizzard for neutering one DPS as well as shit on the mains that play him for why he's fun in the first place(Doom), but leaving alone the other two just as broken DPS (Widow/Hanzo) who one shot across the map with 1000% less risk in doing so for 5v5 in OW2. In all honesty, a nerf, probably this one in particular, is what we really should have gotten and needed seasons ago. I'm just pissing in the can on Blizzard's incompetence on balancing the game. So no, no tank rework on a serious note, as that was just a point I was trying to get across.
they know that the ship is sunk, so i think that this is the reason they might be doing these goofy ahh changes
next they will nerf doomfist for no reason
@@Lani_Voices and then make him a dps again
Idk what I think about one-shot heroes in Overwatch 2. The instant-death shots can be very easy to land, but at the same time these characters can also be countered. I think that they should have low damage weapons with high critical hit multipliers. That way characters like widowmaker and hanzo are penalized for their inaccuracies, but rewarded for actually landing precise shots.
If people don't want blizzard to impact the damage they do, then solidify their roles as glass-cannons. Lower their health and make them just as fragile as their enemies! I mean Hanzo and Widow wear thin clothing anyways.
Another great solution is making it so that their weapons take longer to charge. Maybe design it so that Hanzo's bow can only reach it's maximum damage if the arrow is fully drawn, while Widowmaker needs to be aimed for longer to charge their shot and when an enemy is poisoned instead of highlighting them, it just charges her scope slightly more while the poison effect is active.
Just some ideas, but hey what do I know? I'm just tossing half baked ideas out there lol
At a time which Overwatch is in peril, the developers thought more cc was the option.
As a Widowmaker main these changes were needed. I hanzo widowmakered every defend and had a good 80% win rate at GM1. The sonic arrow combo was such cheese. Mei buff was unneeded as FUCK.
Junkrat is gonna be in every game...
So they are removing the shop and bringing back all the features they removed?
One shot heros weren’t an issue when there were two tanks. You could have a dive tank go in and kill the widow, while the other tank stayed and protected the team, and even if they didn’t, there were more people defending dps and support, so it balanced out. If they want to fix these issues, they should bring back 6v6, or at least make it an arcade mode.
If Widow is a carry you can still go Ball or Winston and your dps can go Sombra, Tracer, Genji if their Snipers are bad. Supports aren't helpless either dps Lucio, Kiriko and Bap are valid for skilled players and if you are bad just shield as Brig.
The main issue is people are just to stupid and walk into their death even after 3 of their mates got sniped seconds ago so they blame the hero.
I think, if instead of nerfing hanzos damage, they should nerf his range instead so it’s a lot harder to spam down chokes
Hmm,this is going to prove to be more challenging as i learn more about how to be better as Widowmaker,but i'll gladly keep up,i won't give up because of this respectable nerf to one shots,i admit they are rather blatant however it was logical that a sniper shot would one shot if it landed in your head,anyway,my point is i don't mind as it encourages me to practice more and try to improve further ! 😸
Of course they are. What option do they have at this point?
same what i thought lol
Widow Headshot should kill shes a sniper maybe up the time or the the percentage the charge shot is needed ?
Honestly maybe it's because I'm a console mercy main, but I think the one shot potential being lowered/closer is great. People can actually stand a chance against a good widow/hanzo and not feel like they died out of nowhere. Not everyone has the best awareness and I don't think they need to be punished cause someone got lucky
They didn’t get lucky you just played like shit. Know what I do when I walk out of spawn and get headshot by a widow/hanzo on gamestart? I say “ffs, should’ve checked for snipers first” then actually start playing around the fact that they have a sniper - stay out of LOS, pressure them from angles, etc.
I still don't understand they are bringing back CC but won't bring back the extra tank...
Not a hanzo main but The hanzo got me fucked up because its barely a nerf. The plan to nerf his damage means he can't 1shot 250hp heros but can still one-shot 200hp heros meaning he can still headshot kill 21/37 total heros 22 if you count baby dva. Meaning this damage reduction has only actually benefitted 4 heros which are mei, reaper, symmetra and torb. 4 powerful heros which defiantly do not need that breathing room
Apart from the tanks bastion is the only dps hanzo couldn't 1 shot at 300 health.
The 21 heros he can one shot being all 9 supports and 12/17 dps (again 22 if you wanna count baby dva at 150hp)
The only way to make this an actual nerf would be to either fix the hitbox of his arrows so they don't bend infront of your face to hit you in a headshot and/or reduce the damage more so he can't 1shot 200hp heros too
Wow, am I glad I quit when PVE got scrapped.
No mention of support nerfs whatsoever... but at least they destroyed Widow (deserved)
I feel like Blizzard balances supports around the average player, rather than the skill ceiling. Which is the problem and why they're so overdone and powercrept. And that balancing method is becoming more prevalent, which is killing the game's balance.
Pinocchio is not a collab, it's public domain
They should make a 6v6 rank would be fun w off tanks again
I know blizzard has done some bar things but adding a tiny bit of crowd control isnt thst big of a deal
As a Lucio player. NO WHY WHAT THE F. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHY. I JUST DONT GET TO PLAY NOW.
I don't understand why they can't just give those soft or even hard CC abilities to supports instead? Lucio preventing someone from using movement abilities when knockbacked to the wall or Brig micro stun/slow on Shield Bash? If they really want to move forward from the OW1, then don't give old abilities back to those Heroes who lost them, but instead give them to someone else.
Regarding Lifeweaver: he feels like Blizzard wanted to be clever and gave him a lot of new tools, but they're all too complicated for an average player. Also he still feels a bit clunky, mostly his reloading. Why on Earth his healing requires ammo? They could have just set the healing to 65 and put it on a really low CD, but nah, let's give it ammo and charging while making his primary attack unreliable in most cases.
Regarding Hanzo and Widow: With one tank gone, it's way easier for them to hit those headshots for sure, but the problem with Hanzo is that his arrows are "too quiet" in OW2, i.e. he can spam his bow and it's either hit or miss. With Widow you at least know she took a shot, because of the obvious red line. Additionally, his Storm Bow is really good in other scenarios, such as destroying Shields and finishing enemies. Widow on the other hand is all about those headshots as she cannot contribute otherwise. If Blizzard wants to nerf Widowmaker, they should buff her in other areas.
Well, now that your heroes are getting nerfed I will say the same that community told me when my tank (hog) got nerfed: "just get better".
I don't know why they keep buffing Mei, I swear she's too annoying as is
i honestly will not play overwatch for a while 'cause, after all the lies they sold to us i think that this is not a good game as it was used to be in the past. I LOVED Overwatch so much, it is the online game on which i have the most hours (1100 btw) so it hurts me to see how bad it became after 4 years of lies and nothing. I hope it will get better soon
Bye Widow. You wont be missed one bit.
Brig should receive slow for her bash and flail
Is there a way to send the Developers ideas for buffs and nerfs of Heroes? I have few ideas I'd like to share as inspiration perhaps
I think season 5 is going to be nothing but Sojourn, Bastion, Reaper, maybe some Ashe and Mei for DPS at least. Hanzo losing the ability to outplay Reaper ult with a headshot is a massive nerf imo. There were so many matches I stayed Hanzo because of this play making potential. My thought process was well I can't cc an ult but at LEAST I can out dps the ult with precise shots. Now that's pretty much out the window, better off hard locking Bastion and just spamming damage since nobody can contest you but another Bastion.
As much as I hated Widow otps and understand the hate for Hanzo spam, I really don't know if kneecapping the hell out of Widow was the move. I see this as more of a sojourn buff than anything else tbh because guess who's the one shot queen again with mercy pocket? Sojourn.
why would they want to eliminate oneshots for snipers?what the hell do you have a sniper for then???
I get them about the oneshots but I think the widow one is too brutal
Hears like the meta charakters are coming
En-Doe-Thur-Mick
Endothermic Blaster.
Hope that helps! Lol
Ashe+Mercy still not nerfed = Game uninteresting.
As a lifeweaver player
I am happy
Unless they changed it back to free skins and loot boxes instead of paying for skins and a battle pass, it won't feel like the first Overwatch. And 6v6.
I've always hated one shots. You can't play against it other than just not getting hit, and a lot of the time that isn't possible, especially midfight where you're preoccupied.
I never hated CC as much as others. It's one of the things that gives the game more play variety from other games in the genre.
I'm addicted to overwatch and them changing widow and honzo will probably force me to quit. It's just insane the direction blizzard is going. Completely ruining both characters. Tanks and healers are so so much better than dps and it's absolutely sad and crazy to me that they don't see this.
Personally I feel like hanzo and widow don't need nerfs because they are sniper characters, so by making hanzo not able to headshot 1 shot is kinda taking away their identity maybe that's just me idk
They Fed up one snipers
WE DONT WANT TO BE SLOW, WE WANT TO BE FAST!
I wanna 6 vs 6 back. Honstley
This is end of the game for me tho im a masters widow and this is just too much 😢
I don't think one shots are a problem considering they are adding more CC games just become slower and sluggish without one shots
What is with the sick Moira skin? Doesn't we get that skin or I miss it?
I don't think any character need any nerf.
What if life weaver grabed enemy and not team?
Can't sojourn still one shot.....😂 god this game.