I really appreciate your content Richard, I've been keeping an ear out for things from you since i saw some content with you and Thooorin, you've been through a hell of a emotional rollercoaster and i'm happy you've kept it together and continue to be a commentator/journalist. Godbless and i'll enjoy the next hour of this video.
I would point out that part of the driver of Ninja's position on the list is that he wasn't on Twitch for a portion of the time the money was counted, being on Mixer from August 2019 to September 2020 when he returned. Totally agree with your larger point that his time has past, but in my mind it's still impressive how high he is despite not being on Twitch for a year.
Twitch sort of did this about four years ago with Hearthstone streaming. As a viewer, you were able to mouse over players cards in hand and on the board and read what they did. They had a database of every card in the game which was recognizable on the screen. It was a really cool feature. I dont know if they still do it and constantly update it.
Not watching now but will be later once I’ve clocked off from work. This was the exact headline I was expecting to see on a video from you. Will be downloading and listening to this one 🙏
Here's some straight facts by the way. So amazon realized they could greatly improve the viewer experience while making it absurdly much cheaper by just utilizing the new PC hardware that's come out for servers due to AMD kicking ass in the industry and making magical PC/server hardware. Ergo you save like freaking 4-8X on 1 server cpu unit VS the old crap that was normal prior to about 2016-2017. Ergo you can just keep pumping scale and pumping scale whilst improving the visual quality and also add quick-rendering-ads which directly earn you loads of more money since the process itself has gotten ultra cheap and now is possible VS yesteryears. Amazon could be a lot more aggressive, but these moves are very serious regardless. The best part here is that the tech always get better whilst it can literally scale endlessly so long you earn stacks. And Twitch does just that. To explain in money: In 2015, a 5$ sub gave amazon 2.5$. Maybe they actually only "earned" 2$or 1$ in profits because the rest went straight to server cost, maintenance, staff and development. But today? Now the work is complete, amazon likely earn today from 2.5$, maybe 2.3$ due to bulk server purchases aside from the rest i mentioned. I'd say this, scaled up once more, is an enormously huge improvement vs what is visible to a layman that know nothing of tech. Understandable, i am a nerd. Still gotta agree, Amazon really had a fat chance on printing even more cash with their own store. Strange.
What is baffling is that the initial project Rich is talking about, if you just push an MVP without image recognition and just let the streamer search and reference Amazon products that are displayed in an overlay icon is mind-numbingly easy even for a solo, low-tier programmer like I am.
I air on the side of Amazon being cautious with how former social media related platforms has died in the blink of an eye yesterdecade. As someone who watch streamers/tournaments of the smaller variety often, still i have to say Amazon has pushed Twitch into a more money focused direction VS what you observe on the surface. Which honestly is a brilliant strategy considering how it's thus gotten normal to literally throw money at a longer playing games on a PC most of the time - Joking a bit here, but imagine the amount of inane idiots spamming stuff if abrupt alterations were done against their habits. So it's been for the best, somewhat.
One thing to add about Bezos face in the Dota2 banner to further give credence to the point of it being related to the leak, is that the original thread about the leak on 4chan had the same face of Bezos as its image.
GamerFromMars actually has done a documentary on Twitch Plays Pokemon, even interviewing Destiny in it about the situation with bird jesus. Don’t know how well it encompasses the whole event, as I was a mega outsider when TPP happened, but I enjoyed the doc nonetheless
@11:46 ok but a lot if not all larger scale streamers have amazon affiliate links to gear, and get paid for selling products, if amazon just *did it* the streamer wouldnt get credit.
Twitch gave away so many free games and exclusive DLC. The platform wasn't built well and people already have their library on Steam along with their friends. I think Amazon made the right choice to bail as a gamer who tried their platform.
Rich. In all honestly, i do not know a single person who gives a fuck about "exclusives" on the epic store. the reason pretty much everyone i know hates the store is because the software itself is a piece of shit. its SO slow, it looks terrible (altho that is ofc subjective) it doesnt have a lot of the great features steam implemented over the last 2 decades. "similar games", user reviews, forums, multiplayer via steam api, etc etc. its a bad software. It didnt reinvent, or even copied steam well. It only managed to get the bare minimum of a storefront done. and with the money that epic has it shouldnt be that way. thats why people hate it.
The vitriol about exclusives is dumb but I think there's plenty of valid grievances with EGS. Their recent move of forcing yet another DRM on Steam games and forcing you to give your credentials to yet another company is anything but healthy to the consumer. Even though Steam is dangerously close to being a monopoly, I don't think a company with even worse policies entering the competition is a benefit to anyone but Sweeney.
I think amazon stopped caring when the plans for Amazon fresh came. Fresh has an insane potential and insane investment costs to start it. Why waste money on twitch?
Some one pretty high, or the twitch is massively mismanaged. It's one thing for source code to leak, quite large number of devs get access to that. Financial data and red teaming reports however should be much more limited.
I really appreciate your content Richard, I've been keeping an ear out for things from you since i saw some content with you and Thooorin, you've been through a hell of a emotional rollercoaster and i'm happy you've kept it together and continue to be a commentator/journalist. Godbless and i'll enjoy the next hour of this video.
“you wouldn’t right click an nft” is now my favorite phrase ever
The real question, how much is Deman raking in each month.
Man he was one of the first commentators I was ever saw on Twitch and I thought he was great. Was sad to find out he was a complete knob.
I would point out that part of the driver of Ninja's position on the list is that he wasn't on Twitch for a portion of the time the money was counted, being on Mixer from August 2019 to September 2020 when he returned. Totally agree with your larger point that his time has past, but in my mind it's still impressive how high he is despite not being on Twitch for a year.
Twitch sort of did this about four years ago with Hearthstone streaming. As a viewer, you were able to mouse over players cards in hand and on the board and read what they did. They had a database of every card in the game which was recognizable on the screen. It was a really cool feature. I dont know if they still do it and constantly update it.
main thing I saw in the leaks, DSP is the ONLY one not lying about being broke
XD
LMAO
Not watching now but will be later once I’ve clocked off from work. This was the exact headline I was expecting to see on a video from you. Will be downloading and listening to this one 🙏
Here's some straight facts by the way. So amazon realized they could greatly improve the viewer experience while making it absurdly much cheaper by just utilizing the new PC hardware that's come out for servers due to AMD kicking ass in the industry and making magical PC/server hardware. Ergo you save like freaking 4-8X on 1 server cpu unit VS the old crap that was normal prior to about 2016-2017. Ergo you can just keep pumping scale and pumping scale whilst improving the visual quality and also add quick-rendering-ads which directly earn you loads of more money since the process itself has gotten ultra cheap and now is possible VS yesteryears. Amazon could be a lot more aggressive, but these moves are very serious regardless. The best part here is that the tech always get better whilst it can literally scale endlessly so long you earn stacks. And Twitch does just that. To explain in money:
In 2015, a 5$ sub gave amazon 2.5$. Maybe they actually only "earned" 2$or 1$ in profits because the rest went straight to server cost, maintenance, staff and development. But today?
Now the work is complete, amazon likely earn today from 2.5$, maybe 2.3$ due to bulk server purchases aside from the rest i mentioned. I'd say this, scaled up once more, is an enormously huge improvement vs what is visible to a layman that know nothing of tech. Understandable, i am a nerd. Still gotta agree, Amazon really had a fat chance on printing even more cash with their own store. Strange.
Hey man nice to see you're still around.
What is baffling is that the initial project Rich is talking about, if you just push an MVP without image recognition and just let the streamer search and reference Amazon products that are displayed in an overlay icon is mind-numbingly easy even for a solo, low-tier programmer like I am.
I work in cybersecurity. I'm by no means an expert. But this is most likely an inside job.
Was my read on it too honestly. A lot of reasons why.
Awesome topics and discussions bro
I air on the side of Amazon being cautious with how former social media related platforms has died in the blink of an eye yesterdecade. As someone who watch streamers/tournaments of the smaller variety often, still i have to say Amazon has pushed Twitch into a more money focused direction VS what you observe on the surface. Which honestly is a brilliant strategy considering how it's thus gotten normal to literally throw money at a longer playing games on a PC most of the time - Joking a bit here, but imagine the amount of inane idiots spamming stuff if abrupt alterations were done against their habits. So it's been for the best, somewhat.
One thing to add about Bezos face in the Dota2 banner to further give credence to the point of it being related to the leak, is that the original thread about the leak on 4chan had the same face of Bezos as its image.
GamerFromMars actually has done a documentary on Twitch Plays Pokemon, even interviewing Destiny in it about the situation with bird jesus. Don’t know how well it encompasses the whole event, as I was a mega outsider when TPP happened, but I enjoyed the doc nonetheless
Richard and destiny hate eachother
Why not interview someone who isnt going to insult anyone with a different opinion.
@11:46 ok but a lot if not all larger scale streamers have amazon affiliate links to gear, and get paid for selling products, if amazon just *did it* the streamer wouldnt get credit.
Thanks for all the content recently Richard
not sure about the age verification thing, like would you really feed an ID into twitch's database?
Probably better than the alternative that is going on right now.
Twitch getting wrecked by hackers is wonderful
18:55 can someone explain why Amazon can, but Google can't buy Twitch?
They can't own 2 streaming platforms?
RUclips.
Great content as always!
Twitch gave away so many free games and exclusive DLC. The platform wasn't built well and people already have their library on Steam along with their friends. I think Amazon made the right choice to bail as a gamer who tried their platform.
Rich. In all honestly, i do not know a single person who gives a fuck about "exclusives" on the epic store. the reason pretty much everyone i know hates the store is because the software itself is a piece of shit. its SO slow, it looks terrible (altho that is ofc subjective) it doesnt have a lot of the great features steam implemented over the last 2 decades. "similar games", user reviews, forums, multiplayer via steam api, etc etc. its a bad software. It didnt reinvent, or even copied steam well. It only managed to get the bare minimum of a storefront done. and with the money that epic has it shouldnt be that way. thats why people hate it.
Thanks Richard.
This video's thumbnail looks like its sponsored by betway
The vitriol about exclusives is dumb but I think there's plenty of valid grievances with EGS. Their recent move of forcing yet another DRM on Steam games and forcing you to give your credentials to yet another company is anything but healthy to the consumer. Even though Steam is dangerously close to being a monopoly, I don't think a company with even worse policies entering the competition is a benefit to anyone but Sweeney.
The more I learn and read on this leak. I feel like this came from a disgruntled employee or someone who was out the door.
I need that shirt richard!! Tell me where its from plsssss
How can I get 10% off on Chicken Police? 😜
I think amazon stopped caring when the plans for Amazon fresh came. Fresh has an insane potential and insane investment costs to start it. Why waste money on twitch?
XQC REACTED TO MY 100$ DONO!!
If only I knew it would take a full days pay check for my favorite streamer to call me a dumbass!
what a fucking brilliant take on how internet personalities work
Thanks number 1811 Great content !
If amazon doesn't own twitch its going to become a ghost town. Twitch prime is the main thing that lets a lot of people stream imo
970 million for this?
Is Jeff Bezos taking the piss?
RIP BirdJesus
I feel bad for the AI since most of what I type is bollux
Wonderful headset. What is that again? Ha!
Chicken Police esports Jesus \m/
I do like Richard Lewis to be fair
Vapor > steam
a leak on that scale definitely looks like an insider
Some one pretty high, or the twitch is massively mismanaged. It's one thing for source code to leak, quite large number of devs get access to that. Financial data and red teaming reports however should be much more limited.
Is it creepy that even after an hour of watching this video, I want more of this style of intelligent breakdown?
Means you're getting old, mate. ;)
@@NoradNoxtus Probably
Yes that is nightmare material mate
The Twitch plays Pokemon event was not nearly as interesting as Richard makes it out to be. Other than that I appreciate his commentary on the leaks.