The Big Picture - Police reforms: A wish list

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  • @Indiadagreat18
    @Indiadagreat18 7 лет назад +26

    Frank you are doing a tremendous job!
    Thankyou :)

  • @ManishkrNain
    @ManishkrNain 7 лет назад +15

    It's so helpful.
    So the basic crux is
    1- political will
    2- modernisation of weapons
    3- prison reform
    4- improve judicial system
    5- need people's 👮 police.

    • @deeprahul
      @deeprahul 7 лет назад +4

      Manish Kumar better training and sensitisation of police forces and giving them freedom to work without interference

  • @vishavdevsingh1292
    @vishavdevsingh1292 7 лет назад +26

    Conclusion Remark by Mr. Parkash👌

  • @lavkushyadav9463
    @lavkushyadav9463 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks Mr. Frank and thanks to all panelists

  • @Honneshhonnu
    @Honneshhonnu 7 лет назад +8

    What we have today>ruler police what we need today>people police great remark prakash jii kudos!!!tq rstv...

  • @anilbabu014
    @anilbabu014 7 лет назад +2

    A very good program to gain knowledge from experienced gentlemen. Thanks to RSTV as well as Frank.
    Conclusion by Prakash sir is commendable

  • @kubervishwas4716
    @kubervishwas4716 7 лет назад +13

    Sir, pls increase the time of big picture so that we can take full advantage of these knowledgeable and experienced dignitaries.

  • @pradyumnachandra8361
    @pradyumnachandra8361 7 лет назад +1

    This is such a great discussion . Clear consics and crisp and covers all important aspects . Great work !!

  • @ravikumar-lo3hm
    @ravikumar-lo3hm 7 лет назад +1

    A great debate held and a very nice point by which debate was concluded that is - we need rural's police not ruler's police.
    Thanks for such a great debate again.
    Keep smiling

  • @bbhusari
    @bbhusari 6 лет назад

    RSTV indeed doing a great job by bringing in forth the primary issues important for good governance. The intentions are transparent and conduct of the debate is largely dignified and scholarly. This channel provides a huge relief to people who are dejected with so called mainstream commercial channels

  • @SnehilRayal
    @SnehilRayal 6 лет назад +2

    Massive respect for Mr Prakash Singh,former DGP. Probably the best discussion I have seen on RSTV. I feel IPS is the most challenging of the all government services, unfortunately it has been relegated as 2nd or 3rd choice among many aspirants.(even 4th choice for some after IRS). Current UPSC pattern produces very knowledgeable officers but I feel IPS is one service which needs something extra(eg:fearless attitude) which are naturally inculcated in a person and can't be taught to an individual at the academy. IPS is a service which effects every citizen's day to day life and has a very wide scope (wider than we think, eg: RAW, IB, BSF, ITBP heads are IPS) thus we should have a different mechanism to recruit the most fit ones for it.(and marks should not be the only criteria). Mr Prakash Singh was AIR 1 in IPS exam of 1959.(that time IPS exam was conducted separately), he resigned from IPS in 1995 and since than working relentlessly to bring down political intervention in Policing.(read about: Prakash Singh vs Union of India case of 2006). We need more passionate officers like him.

    • @stephendedalus2287
      @stephendedalus2287 6 лет назад

      Look, IPS should never compared with others. Courage, competence, intelligence, academic feats, physical fitness, mental fortitude, passion, persistence, code of honour, dignity, dedication, criminal intelligence and so on are imperative features of a Police officers. So any one can choose to fight for other cadres, some should choose to join IPS. It stands apart.

  • @manishghanbahadur5969
    @manishghanbahadur5969 7 лет назад +5

    Police Reforms must target towards creating law enforcement immune from political bias but accountable to the Rule of Law.

  • @BalbirSingh-tx1lf
    @BalbirSingh-tx1lf 7 лет назад +1

    thank you so much rstv...mza aa geya analysis sunkar..very nice

  • @karanrathod7615
    @karanrathod7615 7 лет назад +17

    It is quite difficult to run 21century administration by 19th century structure.
    At one hand we are train Afghan police and at other hand we are using such a old structure..
    Mr. Prakash singh rightly said "we need people's police, not Ruler's police".

  • @kunaldewangan5573
    @kunaldewangan5573 7 лет назад +6

    how beautiful.......What what we have today is ruler police but what we need today people police.

  • @anishsharma6150
    @anishsharma6150 7 лет назад

    What a conclusion! If these things will be done in reality, that would be great for the society

  • @KuldeepSingh-wu9sc
    @KuldeepSingh-wu9sc 7 лет назад +2

    Good discussion and good participation of frank boss

  • @anuragprasad123
    @anuragprasad123 3 года назад

    such an organised ,peaceful and meaningful debate!!

  • @deeprahul
    @deeprahul 7 лет назад +1

    Great panel and good discussion

  • @Eren-jb7sq
    @Eren-jb7sq 7 лет назад +6

    Frank, please run for the next LS elections as the potential PM. hhA. Anyways, you're the best anchor on broadcast television.

  • @AshokMeena-vn4fi
    @AshokMeena-vn4fi 7 лет назад +7

    its quite surprising to see that even people of ranks as high as a home secretary say that its the will of the political leader alone that matters then what is the pointy of being given such ranks constitutional safeguards if they themselves can do nothing at all. I am sure these positions are not merely decorative and carry tremendous force with them. Another thing that is worrisome is that many of such high ranking public servants come on the show, after retirement, and suggest so many revolutionary things. where were these suggestions when they were very well in capacity to implement them. Perhaps at that time they were more concerned about their career growth and not reforms and its after retirement that they want to make the best use of their knowledge and experience by making awesome suggestions. Home secretaries and DGPs have sufficient authority to rectify the systemic malaise provided they show courage at the right time and certainly not after retirement. I have utmost regards for DGP Sh. Prakash ji for leading the way. today there can be no discussion on police reforms without mentioning his name. this country would have been much better had some more public servants like him shown courage to stand up against the staus quoist leaders.

  • @mkcmohit9316
    @mkcmohit9316 7 лет назад +15

    THE SCHEME:
    Union Cabinet approves 25000 Crore outlay for an Umbrella Scheme for Modernization of Police forces "MPF" (Funding 80:20 Centre: State). Money to be spent over 3 years starting FY17.
    Under the scheme Special provisions have been made for:- Internal Security, law and Order, Women Security, Availability of Modern weapons, logistics, support, hiring of helicopters, updation of wireless and communication setup, National Satellite network, CCTNS Project and e-Prison ( Record of inmates, e-Courts, Telr medicines, etc.).
    The outlay shall be distributed as: 40% allocated for NE, J & K, and LWE affected states; 12% to tackle underdevelopment issues in LWE affected states u/Scheme for Special Central Assistance (SCA); Rs. 100 Cr earmarked for police infrastructure upgradation, training institutes, investigation facilities etc. in NE.
    Objective: to aid states to upgrade Police Infrastructure, Forensic Science Labs, Institutions and equips available with them to plug the gaps in Criminal Justice system. Police Stations to be integrated to create a National Data base of Crime and Criminals records and linking it with other pillars of Criminal Justice System like prison, forensic labs and prosecution offices.
    The scheme also provides for setting up of State of Art Forensic Science Lab in Amravati; Upgradation of Sardar Patel Global Centre for Security, Counter-Terrorism and Anti-Insurgency(SCTAI), Jaipur and Gujrat Forensic Science University, Gandhinagar.
    Why? a. Reluctance and incapacity of states to carry out reform on their own.
    b. Recent incidents of failures: Dera Case aftermath 2017 Aug-Sept.; Cauvery Water Issue 2015; Kambala and Jallikattu issues- 2016-17; Jnu 2016 and BHU 2017 etc.
    Police Reform: A Wish List.
    1. Allow free movement of Security troops across states for tracking the criminals while the case is registered at the police station of the area of commission. (Synchronization)
    2. Give rolling-funds and freedom to SPs and DMs of LWE areas to spend the money on development and Police upgradation in these lagging areas. This can address the Security and development concerns.
    3. Reforms in Judicial System for early resolution of pending cases.
    4. Improve conditions of Prisons and inmates.
    5. Money, gadgets and infrastructure would enhance the capability of Police Forces and give them better standing against the Maoists, extremists, terrorists and other Law and order challenges; but what must also be ensured is behavioural changes and sensitization of police forces. This requires institutional reforms and structural changes as laid down in SCs order/ guidelines on Police reforms in 2006. Training is another area that needs to be focussed.
    6. Manpower available (20-22% Shortage of State forces, Central Forces dealing with these issues are 7% short). Shortage implies more burden, lesser breaks and falling operational efficiency. Police population ration in India is among the worst.
    7. Present Infrastructure: Poor mobility, Inferior weaponry and ammunition, lesser safety gadgets.
    8. States capacity to absorb and utilize the funds sanctioned.
    9. Political will for reforms and shedding of reluctance to change.
    10. Independence of Police forces from Politics.
    11. Best Practices- Community Policing; Futuristic view- Cyber Security, etc.
    12. Legislative: Enforcement and Consolidation, removal of redundant provisions.
    13. Fixing of Accountability- permanence of tenure but independence from politics and professionalism i.e. stronger institutions and systems are a prerequisite. Good Governance means efficient delivery of quality services in respect of rule of law.
    REPLACE POLICE'S RULE WITH PEOPLE'S POLICE... :-)

    • @sitaram3901
      @sitaram3901 7 лет назад

      I would like to add one in wish list for all police n parade military forces...why they r not accountable directly to one separate judicial platform for sexual harassment cases ,rapes ,sexual advances n abuse of powers ...???
      Police n politics evergreen cosy relationship is never ending dangerous hurdle to pass over by any woman like me ....

    • @vijayb3044
      @vijayb3044 7 лет назад +1

      REPLACE- RULER'S POLICE WITH PEOPLE'S POLICE....

  • @aminulchoudhury8685
    @aminulchoudhury8685 7 лет назад +1

    Very good discussion..

  • @kannansivanpillai1460
    @kannansivanpillai1460 7 лет назад +1

    very well presented frank

  • @nehachauhan2739
    @nehachauhan2739 7 лет назад +1

    it's a good work...thanks a lot ...

  • @tonygaurav
    @tonygaurav 7 лет назад

    Very geniue debate.....

  • @thediscoursewithin
    @thediscoursewithin 7 лет назад

    substantive conclusion by all d dignitaries....great

  • @Krishna-eh1oh
    @Krishna-eh1oh 7 лет назад +1

    plz increase the duration of this very informative show..

  • @1993raghuram
    @1993raghuram 6 лет назад

    Concluding statement the best!!!

  • @snayan5192
    @snayan5192 7 лет назад +1

    As we have done so many things while formulation part in many policy aspects and same is true for Police . We need to implement all those recommendations immediately if we are willing to tackle with particularly the internal security,law and order maintenance the government has to bring multidimensional reform varying from institutional,financial,human resources etc.As all the panelists have already mentioned the same.And why every time the apex court has to came into picture or popularly called as Judicial Activism and inspite of that those instructions cum recommendations are not implemented on ground level.And one more thing if our armed forces are going for combined excercise with other foreign nation like Yudhha Abhyas etc. will it be feasible on ground that our police might indulge in such excercises with foreign police forces in order to bring some radical changes in police...

  • @namanchaturvedi8897
    @namanchaturvedi8897 7 лет назад +4

    summary
    1. 25000cr outlay cleared by CCS- upgrdtn internal security(IS) apparatus umbrella scheme centre -80%
    2.political will necessary for ending naxalism (coordination btw states),more freedom be given to local authorities wrt actions & finance. improve judicial system, police station infra
    3. money needed + institutional reforms (SC advised). shortage of personnel lowers morale & operational efficiency. mobility is a problem , weaponry is outdated & deficient, issue of overlapping jurisdictions.
    4.states not following SC's directives,(structural reforms), police used by party in power , reluctant to let go( of power to interference)
    5.sensitizaion of police- changing faulty attitudes,sensitivity depends on functional autonomy,
    6. encourage.best practices,overhaul of old & multiple laws ,empower &fix accountability & (both related). need peoples police vs rulers' police.

  • @policeshekar6545
    @policeshekar6545 5 лет назад

    awesome debate

  • @AbhishekMishra-sn2bu
    @AbhishekMishra-sn2bu 7 лет назад +1

    Cabinet committee on security approved 25000 cross call the police modernization

  • @muhammedt1841
    @muhammedt1841 7 лет назад

    Proper traing should be given to constable police.because in every state policers are selected through an objective type examinantion and physical training. There is need to give intellectual training to police for changing there views on women,minoriy and poor people and also for good governance.

  • @janardansinghsingh3921
    @janardansinghsingh3921 7 лет назад

    nice topic

  • @reenasheokand5961
    @reenasheokand5961 7 лет назад

    26 thousand crores for police reforms by centre government (need for the reforms --terror in j & k ,, insurgency in North East and naxalites in centre )Sc directivese to police reforms
    -Political will of the states
    -Review petition by centre government
    -Insulate police from political pressure
    -Modernisation , sensitisation,and recruitment
    -Ethose ,values,(common peaple,poor,women,sc,St etc.)
    -Model form__community policing, planning for current scenario
    -Multiplicity of laws
    Accountability fixing
    Nt rulers police BT people police

  • @advocatesambhajipatildyspr6850
    @advocatesambhajipatildyspr6850 3 года назад

    S K JAISWAL DGP OF MAHARASHTRA STATE Had gone to Cisf because OF dirty politics in MAHARASHTRA GOVT

  • @ankitkraken
    @ankitkraken 7 лет назад

    uncle ne itna dheere bola frank must be thinking please speed up!!! i only have 30 mins xD

  • @donbuddha8341
    @donbuddha8341 7 лет назад

    Frank 👌

  • @rohitbhore3825
    @rohitbhore3825 7 лет назад

    Final remark by Mr. Prakash __/\__
    BTW, Bad choice of tie, brother Frank!!

  • @sitaram3901
    @sitaram3901 7 лет назад

    Mulk azzad hue 70 saal ar abhi b reforms ??? Indian police act 1861 ,
    Shame on India ...
    Swaaraj aisa hota hai toh kya ????
    British Indian laws r big failure of law n order .....

  • @rajreddy2011
    @rajreddy2011 7 лет назад +1

    hello and welcome to Raja Sabha
    television you're watching the big
    picture with me Frank Ferrara in a major
    boost for police reforms the Union
    Cabinet on Wednesday approved a 25,000
    crore rupees outlay for upgrading the
    internal security apparatus in states
    according to Union home minister Rajnath
    Singh the Cabinet Committee on security
    chaired by Prime Minister Narendra Modi
    approved an umbrella scheme on
    modernization of police forces with the
    money to be spent in three years from
    2017 18 of a total outlay of 25,000 and
    6000 rupees the centre will provide
    18,000 636 crore rupees around 80
    percent while the state's share will be
    6424 crore rupees on this edition of the
    big picture we will analyse what needs
    to be done to reform the police force
    joining me on the program today are
    Valmiki Prasad Singh former Union Home
    Secretary and former governor as well
    prakash singh former DG of the BSF and
    DGP of yupi and assam chuck shiroi head
    of outreach PRS legislative research and
    such the Prakash legal editor of The
    Tribune thank you to all my guests for
    joining me on this edition of the big
    picture mr. Baum accusing I'd like to
    begin with you what do you think of the
    cabinet's decision to you no sanction
    would approve 25,000 crore rupees
    towards police reforms I am quite happy
    with this decision but I have three
    comments to make first there you focus
    on three major challenges facing
    internal security in this allocation of
    25,000 crores
    first is as you as you all know
    terrorism in Jammu and Kashmir and the
    second is insurgency in the Northwest
    and the third is the next light - what
    they have rightly called
    left-wing extremism and they have
    identified 35 distance now on this they
    are spending then
    thousand little over 10,000 girls and
    I'm also happy that they have taken into
    consideration hiring of helicopters
    upgradation of police wireless a
    national satellite network a crime and
    criminal tracking network and systems
    project it's a trial section my coming
    in this case is that if we have the
    necessary political and administrative
    will it is possible to get rid of the
    next light or left with minute minutes
    shortly because one is the joint
    operations that is if you are you know
    what indistinct you cross over to
    another district there is no problem
    today but when you cross over than the
    boundaries of the state there is a
    problem sure
    and the next light snow that what we
    should do is it is the same paramilitary
    forces from the other side also
    operating to control this should be
    allowed to everywhere but if there is a
    case the case should be registered in
    the police station belonging to the
    state where it had occurred fighting or
    something so free movement should be
    allowed as what you see is over the net
    muscle quadrant basic requirement is
    nothing that a synchronization also
    would you say yes yes that's one of the
    name for that second which is very
    important and that is and I had tried
    that at the Union Home Secretary I had
    tried in some districts of Bihar in dark
    enough you know the young district my
    states and the young superintendents of
    please they should be given the freedom
    to
    operate the police stations and spend
    money for example in the criminal
    justice system in these areas in these
    35 districts is very poor right so you
    have to give them the freedom to expend
    then you have to give the freedom I had
    said that at any given point of time for
    development there should be 25 crores
    and for police operations there should
    be 15 currents and the speeds can decide
    that and the moment that money is spent
    or reduced by the five crows the
    government gives another five crores at
    any point of time the Superintendent of
    Police has 15 crores and they liam's
    have got deputy commissioner so this is
    necessary to accelerate the pace of both
    security operations and development
    operations sure my turn which is very
    important and that is not mentioned here
    that the judicial system the cases are
    pending in courts regions are in very
    very bad shape so you have to improve
    the police stations you have to improve
    the jails and you have to ensure that
    the judicial system is effective in
    delivering justice so these are related
    issue there is something missing maybe
    that I don't have the full report you
    may not have no sure sure fair enough
    you know let me bring in mr. Prakash
    Singh into the picture now into the
    debate you know mr. Prakash Singh it's
    it's very clear that there is a
    desperate need for modernization as far
    as the police force is concerned so do
    you would you say that the cabinet's
    decision has come at the right time well
    I am very happy with the Cabinet
    decision and it's a positive move and a
    forward move the background of this
    needs to be understood and brought to
    light you see in 2015 in Government of
    India
    delinked eight centrally sponsored
    schemes
    you see they said at that time the 14 by
    that time the 14 frames Commission
    report had come and the finance
    Commission had increased the share
    of states to from 32% to 42% so central
    government said that now that the state
    share has been gone up from 32 to 42 we
    can afford to pass on the burden of some
    of the schemes to these states and
    they'd what they call D linked certain
    schemes which are being financed by the
    center and he said they said that these
    schemes should henceforth be taken care
    of by the states and one of them was
    modernization of police forces so 2015
    they took this decision and the last
    about more than two years this has been
    going on but the practical experience at
    the ground level has been that I mean it
    was expected that the states were with
    the enhanced reallocation of her
    revenues to them they would invest in
    police they would spend more on they
    would spend on modernization of police
    but you know the state leadership in
    most of the states being what it is they
    are they were just not convinced about
    the need for any kind of investment in
    the police and so modernization programs
    in at the state level where we're in the
    reverse gear you can say they were not
    getting and several state directors
    general complaint that at this rate with
    the modernization grants drying up their
    campaign against terror against Naxals
    against northeast insurgents that ruse
    that was bound to get a setback so this
    view was conveyed by the state
    governments also to the Home Ministry
    and Home Ministry ultimately realized
    that the modernization grants must come
    from the center because the states even
    if they have the money they will not
    allocate that for modernization of
    police through so I mean having realized
    this the government of India have
    revived the scheme for modernization of
    grants by the Home Ministry which was
    earlier involved and which had been
    discontinued in between and these 25,000
    curves have been would be available for
    the next three financial years from 2017
    18 18 19 and 19 20 now the scheme is as
    I said positive it's a good development
    I'm happy about it but what I would like
    to emphasize is that you see money alone
    cannot bring about improvements in the
    police you can
    give them better gadget or a better
    equipment better transport but I
    Communications more forensic
    laboratories these would definitely help
    this would definitely help and these
    would enhance the capabilities of the
    police to deal with the kind of internal
    security challenges they are faced with
    it would enhance the capability of is
    away the mice with up in the Northeast
    insurgents with away with the Kashmiri
    separatist and generally in responding
    to law and order challenges whether
    second Elrod or any other situation it
    would enhance their capability so but
    what we need today is not only
    allocation of money but certain
    institutional reforms certain structural
    changes which we are prescribed by the
    Supreme Court
    come on the roadmap was laid down by the
    Supreme Court in 2006 about a State
    Security Commission about police
    establishment board about compliance
    Authority about security of tenure for
    officers about separation of
    investigation from Laura
    so those institutional changes have to
    take place and unfortunately the kind of
    emphasis with those institutional
    changes should have been getting they
    are not getting even now okay so I mean
    I'm happy about whatever has happened
    I'm happy that modernization grounds
    will be relieved by at the center but
    what we desperately need is I mean the
    structure certain structural changes in
    the primeira now if you're saying
    they'll bring about the kind of
    transformation we are looking forward to
    I don't know if you're saying that a lot
    more needs to be done just pumping in
    money to reform the police force Chuck
    shiroi I'd like to bring you into the
    picture now PRS you know has done an
    elaborate study on police reforms you
    know paper was published I think in June
    of this year if I'm not mistaken what
    were the findings of your research flack
    I think you know I'd like to start by
    saying that both Warneke cigar and you
    know Prakash tea have laid down the
    foundation for the debate that we are
    having I'm just gonna break down as true
    there you know where I would like to
    focus on the points on I would like to I
    like to talk about the factors to what
    is the manpower situation in our police
    forces that's one the second is the
    infrastructure and the third is what is
    the capacity of state governments to
    absorb the kind of modernization funds
    which the center might release there are
    a number of opportunities across all
    these
    three points you know when it comes to
    manpower when we when we were looking at
    the numbers the numbers gonna tell us
    that at the state government level
    there's almost a shortage of about you
    know approximately twenty one twenty two
    percent of personnel the sanctioned
    strength of personnel versus the number
    of person available is short by twenty
    two percent for the central forces you
    know which deal with some of this
    internal security issues that shortage
    is about seven percent so that is a huge
    impact not only on policing also an
    internal security and also the mo

  • @gknowledge3200
    @gknowledge3200 6 месяцев назад

    What a shameful man this 🤡 prakash singh.... Aise log Loktantra me ek kalank h....