Must be something about Hereford. I remember my dad stuggling away from there. Class 56 on steel train . Boy did it scream. I sat in silence all the way back to Salop. Took it all for granted back then. Never crossed my mind how lucky and spoilt i was . Cab rides in, Dmu's, 08, 24, 25, 37, double 37s, 47, and 56. He even let me drive Dmu and also 37. We thanked him with a Steam driver experience day at Llangollen. 😂😂 Busmans holiday really. Miss him loads ❤
Used to live in a flat near Hereford station that backed onto the line right where the class 37s sat on tickover, when they throttled up the double glazed windows rattled and the tv was drowned out, happy days!
Now that’s what in electronics you call pulse width modulation…. As the 37 pulls away short bursts of demand that gradually get longer as the train accelerates … wonderful …
We got there in the end.....would like to know its laden/ unladen stats.... The Port Talbot train passing our house on route to Shotton will be laden,although we can't see the coils etc....not seeing a class 37 pulling for a while.....its a boring DB engine. ......I can tell when sitting on tge sofa ,if its a Deltic passing.....thanks for the vid. must get across to take some pics.
@@MrThrash37 it was probably one of the Warrington muppets as a Western man knows how to drive them properly and would understand that the brakes need to fully come off first and then up the power after a release has taken place.
Fantastic sound, just how i remember 37s departing Hereford on heavy trains. My only wish is that i captured some on film. Class 56s made some memorable departures too.
Yes i have a few vids from the early 2000s but unfortunately a lot more footage was lost one way or another. My spotting days in Hereford started around 1991 then on and off until around 2007. It took a move to Gloucester in 2012 to re-kindle my old interest but still many happy memories of my once local station.
seems like on British diesels they modulate the throttle up n down a lot compared to usa diesels that stay more constant and notch up and down as needed. Any idea why?
Our whole country's smaller than Michigan, so we don't have that much stuff to move around. In particular, everywhere is within about 100 miles of the coast so we don't have to move goods far from the ports. And, finally, passenger trains rule the rails here, and long slow freights would hold them up. Even if we needed a 150-car freight train, we'd probably run five 30-car trains to avoid interfering with the passenger network.
The driver takes the credit here but its really the 37 doing the work! The traction motors are fitted with wheel slip sensors ! As soon as a wheel lets go the power is cut at the throttle governor ! This system is of course no where as good as the computerised systems on say a class 66 but back in the 60s and 70s this was state of the art ??
@MrThrash37 It was probably the UKs most successful design from a time when British manufacturers of Locomotives only had to sketch out a drawing on a beer mat, and it was approved? I worked on these and others in the 80s as a fitter, and I can tell you the 37 would get you home with your train when other types had given up! I suppose this is all obvious by the fact that they still do a good day's work 60 years on! They are a relatively simple design with a prime mover that isn't too stressed out! A winning combination !
Nope. The engineer is applying power to get the train moving, he then cuts the power momentarily so as not to cause wheelslip. Once the amps drop a bit, he gets back on the throttle for a little longer. He repeats this until he's able to hold the throttle wide open without causing wheelslip or over loading the main generator. As the speed increases, the amount of resistance the traction motors decreases because of momentum. This also decreases the amperage load on the motors and main generator. In short, it sounds lime he's changing gears, but he's not. He's just skillfully lifting the train from a dead stop.
Is this considered a pretty average freight train,length wise? I'm use to BNSF and UP trains that are at least 150 cars to 200 some odd. Either way that's got to be one of the meeanest sounding engines around!
Would say you wouldn’t want much more with a single loco. But most UK freights are longer now. No way the length of that can range anywhere between 20-35 wagons on most workings.
Not sure about length but British container trains are typically 1400-1600 tonnes and bulk loads are 2000-4000 tonnes on the high end. The record for haulage is something like 12000 tonnes with two locomotives. In Britain freight trains tend to be shorter but more frequent trains that run at higher speeds of 60-75 mph when compared to other countries. I’d imagine these faster and quicker accelerating freight workings are easier to fit in around passenger services.
That makes sense. You all have regular passenger trains. Here in my part of Missouri, Amtrak is the only main line passenger trains. We see the Amtrak train between 8:30 and 11:00 ish. Not what you'd call real regular. It's not even every day! But we see dozens of freight trains, I mean DOZENS of freights.
@@tomcline5631Interestingly enough, when the pandemic hit and the number of passenger trains decreased, some freight workings gained a few hundred more tonnes as the lines weren’t as busy.
Sadly that's why the 37's had a high failure rate in there later years, being thrashed and not a care given, would this so called driver thrash a 50year old car like this, clearly a case of its not mine and I don't care, he should have been hauled in before his bosses and ask what the f**k he was doing driving like a idiot and being very un-professional, he also should have let the brakes release from the wagons properly before setting off like he did. Nice video and light but spoilt by the idiot driving.
i doubt the driver was hauled in for a dressing down, his employer (EWS) would not give a stuff how he drives a loco, they were not bothered about their 37s, their quote was, if i runs, send it out, they were more concerned about their shiny new 66s, maybe the driver was pushing the loco to max from a standing due to being late departing.
Must be something about Hereford. I remember my dad stuggling away from there. Class 56 on steel train . Boy did it scream. I sat in silence all the way back to Salop. Took it all for granted back then. Never crossed my mind how lucky and spoilt i was . Cab rides in, Dmu's, 08, 24, 25, 37, double 37s, 47, and 56.
He even let me drive Dmu and also 37.
We thanked him with a Steam driver experience day at Llangollen. 😂😂 Busmans holiday really.
Miss him loads ❤
Used to live in a flat near Hereford station that backed onto the line right where the class 37s sat on tickover, when they throttled up the double glazed windows rattled and the tv was drowned out, happy days!
Now that’s what in electronics you call pulse width modulation…. As the 37 pulls away short bursts of demand that gradually get longer as the train accelerates … wonderful …
Wheelspin regulation?
I turned up my volume, set fire to some old engine oil with a blow lamp and turned out the lights. I wasn't disappointed.
Hahahaha sounds like a very nice scene! Thanks for watching! Have a great New Year.
Superb. I like to put paraffin on the BBQ and smell a Tractor cold start........ 👍👍👍👍👍
We got there in the end.....would like to know its laden/ unladen stats....
The Port Talbot train passing our house on route to Shotton will be laden,although we can't see the coils etc....not seeing a class 37 pulling for a while.....its a boring DB engine.
......I can tell when sitting on tge sofa ,if its a Deltic passing.....thanks for the vid.
must get across to take some pics.
Me too👍
Top locos you can hear them coming from miles away good thrash video 🤩😍🥰
Best sounding loco on the rails goose bumps 🔥💯
Glad it’s not just me! Have a great new year.
Now that's how to pull away from a station with plenty of thrash and exhaust! Good stuff!👍👍👍
Thanks for watching David, have a great new year!
@@MrThrash37 it was probably one of the Warrington muppets as a Western man knows how to drive them properly and would understand that the brakes need to fully come off first and then up the power after a release has taken place.
Cool video the load hall livery was very pleasing to the eye indeed
I think it’s one of my favourite livery’s I must say! Thanks for watching. Have a great New Year.
Magic to the ears!
I agree John, thanks for watching! Hope you have great new year!
MrThrash37 All the very best to you as well.
Fantastic sound, just how i remember 37s departing Hereford on heavy trains. My only wish is that i captured some on film. Class 56s made some memorable departures too.
Thank you, I’ve viewed much of your old footage over the years and I think my dad my have captured many of the same trains as you did.
Yes i have a few vids from the early 2000s but unfortunately a lot more footage was lost one way or another. My spotting days in Hereford started around 1991 then on and off until around 2007. It took a move to Gloucester in 2012 to re-kindle my old interest but still many happy memories of my once local station.
Wow, I’d love to see more old Hereford stuff uploaded .
You cant beat the noise of a class 37 and a bit of wheel slip!💪
It’s my favourite thing to hear! Have a great new year Dan!
Amazing video just subbed keep up great work
Thanks for checking my channel out Adam, have a great new year!
@@MrThrash37 your welcome you have great new year to
Great video ,love the night footage👍😀
Thanks for watching once again! have a great new year.
Really fantastic footage Mr.Thrash
Thanks Digger, nice to look back on. Have a great New year!
All over this Mr Thrash! Hope you are enjoying the Xmas period and all the best for 2021!
Thanks for watching! Same goes to you, nice to have a big Xmas thrash!
Wow, what a train😄. I bet your Dad was pleased👍 (I read the description😉).
He’s pleased and I was too watching back on it! Thanks as always boom, have a good new year mate!
Thanks, you too😄.
seems like on British diesels they modulate the throttle up n down a lot compared to usa diesels that stay more constant and notch up and down as needed. Any idea why?
Superb footage mate
Thanks for watching bud, have a great new year.
I like how British Rail feels so compact compared to Union Pacific. Our freight trains are endless like Hadrian’s Wall going by. Nice camera work.
Thanks for watching Calvin, they are often short and long.
Our whole country's smaller than Michigan, so we don't have that much stuff to move around. In particular, everywhere is within about 100 miles of the coast so we don't have to move goods far from the ports. And, finally, passenger trains rule the rails here, and long slow freights would hold them up. Even if we needed a 150-car freight train, we'd probably run five 30-car trains to avoid interfering with the passenger network.
Some nice Tractors lol
Bloody hell that's chuffing amazing sound on surround sound system in front room my god all mighty freaking hell fire 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😉😉
I should change the title to this.. thanks for watching!
My Lords!
Nice pullaway at the end, wonder if that was Neil driving
Not sure, he might come across it and let us know! Thanks for watching, and have a great new year!
The driver takes the credit here but its really the 37 doing the work!
The traction motors are fitted with wheel slip sensors ! As soon as a wheel lets go the power is cut at the throttle governor ! This system is of course no where as good as the computerised systems on say a class 66 but back in the 60s and 70s this was state of the art ??
Fantastic locos.
@MrThrash37
It was probably the UKs most successful design from a time when British manufacturers of Locomotives only had to sketch out a drawing on a beer mat, and it was approved?
I worked on these and others in the 80s as a fitter, and I can tell you the 37 would get you home with your train when other types had given up!
I suppose this is all obvious by the fact that they still do a good day's work 60 years on! They are a relatively simple design with a prime mover that isn't too stressed out! A winning combination !
It sounds like it's going through the gears ! Is it ?????
Nope. The engineer is applying power to get the train moving, he then cuts the power momentarily so as not to cause wheelslip. Once the amps drop a bit, he gets back on the throttle for a little longer. He repeats this until he's able to hold the throttle wide open without causing wheelslip or over loading the main generator. As the speed increases, the amount of resistance the traction motors decreases because of momentum. This also decreases the amperage load on the motors and main generator. In short, it sounds lime he's changing gears, but he's not. He's just skillfully lifting the train from a dead stop.
Is this considered a pretty average freight train,length wise? I'm use to BNSF and UP trains that are at least 150 cars to 200 some odd.
Either way that's got to be one of the meeanest sounding engines around!
Would say you wouldn’t want much more with a single loco. But most UK freights are longer now. No way the length of that can range anywhere between 20-35 wagons on most workings.
Not sure about length but British container trains are typically 1400-1600 tonnes and bulk loads are 2000-4000 tonnes on the high end. The record for haulage is something like 12000 tonnes with two locomotives. In Britain freight trains tend to be shorter but more frequent trains that run at higher speeds of 60-75 mph when compared to other countries. I’d imagine these faster and quicker accelerating freight workings are easier to fit in around passenger services.
That makes sense. You all have regular passenger trains. Here in my part of Missouri, Amtrak is the only main line passenger trains. We see the Amtrak train between 8:30 and 11:00 ish. Not what you'd call real regular. It's not even every day! But we see dozens of freight trains, I mean DOZENS of freights.
@@tomcline5631Interestingly enough, when the pandemic hit and the number of passenger trains decreased, some freight workings gained a few hundred more tonnes as the lines weren’t as busy.
Yeah,that makes sense too. Lot more room on the lines without the passenger trains.
Awsome
Thanks for watching
Hellfire!
Thanks for watching! ive just uploaded a video that might suit your taste!
60 year old British engineering showing us what's what..........
Making a noise about it too! Thanks for watching.
Exhaust you don't merely inhale. You can chew it too.
🤣🤣
HELLFIRE 698 IS A BEAST
I love the red door!
@@MrThrash37 never spotted.nicked of a ews class mate .
super, can't beat a 37 for slipping racket
Thanks for watching Dave, love a bit of tractor action, have a great New Year!
Same train as Great train Robbery
Not quite!
Sadly that's why the 37's had a high failure rate in there later years, being thrashed and not a care given, would this so called driver thrash a 50year old car like this, clearly a case of its not mine and I don't care, he should have been hauled in before his bosses and ask what the f**k he was doing driving like a idiot and being very un-professional, he also should have let the brakes release from the wagons properly before setting off like he did. Nice video and light but spoilt by the idiot driving.
i doubt the driver was hauled in for a dressing down, his employer (EWS) would not give a stuff how he drives a loco, they were not bothered about their 37s, their quote was, if i runs, send it out, they were more concerned about their shiny new 66s, maybe the driver was pushing the loco to max from a standing due to being late departing.
Nothing wrong with the way it was being driven
37s often did this with a heavy load
Quit your mining man this is helfire!!!!