The ACTUAL Worst Trains Ever | History in the Dark
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- Objectively, what are the worst trains/locomotives ever built? Ever used? Literally ever? Well, I went over all my previous lists and found them. It was a trying experience.
0:00 - Intro
2:50 - Budd SPV-2000
5:14 - Baldwin RP-210
9:29 - New South Wales 41 class
11:39 - NZR RM class (88 seater)
14:16 - British Rail Class 21 (NBL)
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Imagine liking a video before it even premieres because you already know it’s gonna be awesome
Yeah, HITD produces very consistently fun, informative content. His "What Your Favorite [X] Says About You" shorts are great!
I don't have to imagine it. I do it quite often. It helps show how well you know someone content.
I once spoke to an ex BR driver who was very familiar with the Class 21s and 29s. He told me that the 21s were actually lovely machines to drive when they worked, being very smooth riding and quiet with a well laid out, comfortable and (very important in Scotland) warm cab and excellent visibility. Also, the class 29 rebuilds were held in fairly high regard by loco crews since they had a bit more grunt than most other locos in the type 2 bracket. The only thing that finished off the 29s really was the fact they were non standard. Who knows, if the whole class had been rebuilt, things could have been very different and history may have been much kinder to them (let us not forget how rubbish the initial batch of class 31s were before they were re-engined and went on to be a raging success).
That is interesting
Class 31’s were hardly a ‘raging’ loco. I’ve many miles of driving them and it’s not a word I’d use! 😂Lol
@@22pcirish perhaps try and understand the context of the word.
I recall reading an article in one of the British railway mags that also said they were popular with crews because they were comfortable. It went on to say they were withdrawn because they were non standard which led to carrying more spares inventory.
@@Paraffinmeister Maybe try and use better English?
I see no Pacer on the thumbnail... though the Pacers did work at least. The Budd SPV could only dream of being as useful as the Pacer!
I assume they're restoring one so it can serve as a warning for the future: "don't do this again!"
They had the bonus of actually *moving.* That cannot be said about other rolling stock.
A little known fact is that the Pacer was originally planned to be filled with clowns complete with buckets of glitter and doors falling off etc to entertain passengers while waiting for their train
Which was delayed by leaves on the line or some new variant of snow
The Pacer was at least reasonably safe and reliable, it worked and didn't have a tendency to spontaneously combust, which is more than what can be said for the locos on this list.
@@HistoryintheDark Also, they ran in service for decades, plus I believe a few sets are still in service after being sold to a foreign operator. The SPV2000's failure combined with a few other factors actually doomed Budd, which makes them even worse in my opinion!
@@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd Pacers might be dull and awful but I travelled on them for years.. As far as I could tell they worked pretty well - its just that they were a cheap bus inside and were noisy rattly slow and rather uncomfortable.
Oh boy. Now that I think of it, you should do a video like this for the 5 actual best trains/locomotives ever at some point.
I actually got to see both SPV2000's on their way to preservation. They were parked in Amtrak's Hudson yard across the river from Newark, NJ for a few months. They looked in pretty rough shape, so restoring even one of them will be quite the feat. If they are able to actually get the one running, i will be seriously impressed!
They'll most likely be cosmetically restored rather than in operating condition.
@@Cnw8701 I see. Would be amazing if they could get it running reliably!
@@Transit_Bikeryeah, because if they could get them running reliably, they'd have done something Budd couldn't do when building them.
I got to see some SPV-2000s at the Grapevine vintage railroad. I only saw them through the window of my parents car while passing by. I was on vacation at the time. No idea what railroad they originated from, but people seem to forget that they exist. Who knows, maybe they weren’t 2000s, but some other rail cars that look like 2000s
06:56 Another reason for widely spacing the pickup shoes is to ensure the locomotive has power when moving through switches/points and grade/level crossings.¹ A similar thing is done on subway/metro cars. Another option, particularly for metros and permanently-coupled locomotive sets is to share power between units via the MU cables.
¹ Fun fact: The bridge on Metro North/Amtrak's North East Corridor in Cos Cob, Connecticut is devoid of catenary wires. Trains have to enter the bridge with sufficient speed to coast unpowered to the other end. Edit: Trains typically cross with the locomotive's motors providing head-end power for the coaches (like dynamic braking but usefully using the power instead of throwing it away as heat).
Bert Meinders
There is a swing bridge on the Nordzeecanal, near Haarlem I think (been a while since I was there) with 6 tracks. Being a swing bridge, it can't have catenary, so trains need sufficient momentum. They keep a couple of Class 1600 diesel locomotives on standby.
In the early 1960's my brother and I had a Freedom of Scotland rail ticket, this enabled us to have shed permits for all the sheds in Scotland. we were based in Inverness and one day travelled to Aberdeen with a permit for Inverurie works. Aberdeen Kittybrewster had 20 class 21s allocated. in the course of the day we saw 18 of them stopped for various reasons including one which had collided with a 4 wheel diesel shunter and come off worst. we saw the final two on our way home, the must have been specially maintained as they were used for the Royal train between Aberdeen and Ballater. We saw a number of Eastfield (Glasgow) allocation (the first 38 from which all the class 29s were drawn) with dropped cabs
It could be that if Baldwin had build the RP-210 as pure Diesel-Hydraulics, the outcome could have been much better. There are a number of great and successful DH's locomotives.
The issue is that they terminated in grand central, which is underground. Also, running diesel anything under wire/over 3rd rail is pretty inefficient. Electric traction power from external source is by far the most efficient way of moving a train. Refueling is also a consideration, which the systems they ran on were not set up to do aside from a select few yards.
@@Transit_Biker That is more a problem with the whole track. I stand with the DH only concept, because not every part was, and still is, electrified.
Interesting to see the NZR 88 seat railcar in there. The Fiat motors were designed for boat and a clean environment, not under rail vehicles. But silly enough, the cheapest option, undermining what was otherwise a good railcar. There was a plan to read engine them with Cummins around 1965, but sadly the government declined. One survived and is being rebuilt to run, but with Cummins power.
5:04 the 1001 is actually privately owned, and is being restored to its later configuration as a business and inspection car. It will remain unpowered and will be used on fan trips, eventually along with New Haven railroad “washboard” EMU club car 5111
There's a real messed-up kind of pride that I felt, seeing the Budd SPV-2000 on the list, since my town's rail museum has one of the 2 remaining units in existence. (The one that's not currently being restored.)
Fun fact, it currently has one of the most ironic pieces of graffiti on it:
"Bringin' sexy back"
How have you not lost your sanity darkness?
Especially with the presence of British Rail
Who said he hasn't?
This implies that he had it in the first place…
I'm honestly convinced that the RP-210s were a planted design by EMD in an act of corporate sabatoge, because that would make sense for how it failed so hard.
Bert Meinders
The worst French locomotive I know of was a 3-cylinder one-off 4-8-2, known to those unlucky enough to drive and fire it as "Cholera"". Fortunately, it fell into the hands of the legendary André Chapelon, who rebuilt it as a 3-cylinder compound 4-8-4, which was a brilliant performer, with 5500HP. How about a video about Chapelon, the greatest steam engineer never to have his name on a new locomotive. He built only rebuilds.
Incidentally, the overheating on NZR's awful 88-seat railcars was caused by some fool at Drewry locating the radiators in a pocket of still air.
The thing with the SPV2000 is it was pretty much a successor to the Budd RDC, which worked more or less fine and widely used. How could they get it so wrong the second time?
I was not surprised to see the SPV-2000 on the list.
The NSW Class 41 locomotive looks like the BR Paxman diesel in terms of design
And so it should, they were equipped with a pair of Paxman 12-RPHL engines.
Brit ish Rail
Brit ish Rail
We're number 1
We're number 1
My dad recalls A 41 exploding when he was down at the train station as A child
Had things gone differently, a Class 21 could've been preserved, since D6122 (allegedly D6121) was at Barry for 12 years before being broken up in 1980.
Neat idea for possible video. Could Thomas run his branch line with a coaling tower at every station. Milage of every stop consumption etc
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Actually, all they had to do was literally replace the boiler with a better one, and the E1s would have been great for branch line duties.
@@TheTrueAdept But I think it would take away from the very identity of Thomas if he came with a bigger boiler.
@@prabhatsourya3883 er, the successor to the E1s had a similar boiler size but far more efficient in terms of design.
When you said “the RP-210”, I thought you said therapy 210. That maybe the amount of times you’ll have to go to therapy for dealing with these pieces of crap! 🤣
I heard that too! 😂😂😂😂
one thign to note for the SPV-2000's, 3 actually also managed to make there way into Texas, presumably from ConnDOT onto the Grapevine vintage railroad for as far as im aware unknown reasons. They have been repainted and given the GVRR logos and reporting mark. I have never seen them being pulled or used but im only assuming there used for extra passenger cars only for emergencies.
Of all 25 videos in the "worst trains ever" this one I'm pretty sure has the longest run of the black and white train reel in the intro. Not only do you see past the first corner but you see how it links into another of the black and white reels used here before and see a third one. Neat!
Good to see some NZR goodness here. Thing is the RM’s could’ve been a hit but for numerous reasons fell flat. Thankyou darkness for the great video
For me it’s the BR 370 APT. While it was an experimental, it was still in service for a few years (all 3 of them) and I had the misfortune to use it. You literally had to hold your tea so it didn’t fall off your table. It was awful
I wanna see a video about when CSX sponsored Chris Buescher in NASCAR back in 2016.
That's VAN Nest. And the main reason to have two widely-spaced contact shoes was to cover gaps in the third rail. The first shoe comes past the gap before the second one reaches the gap.
You should have honorable mentions for BR Class 30 and EMD LWT12.
As long as the 142 Pacer is on this list I will be happy.
You know its a Good Friday when Darkness uploads
In regards to what could be considered the actual worst for other vehicle types;
Military airplanes: Christmas Bullet (both of them are the absolute worst), Heinkel He 162, Me 163 Komet, F7U Cutlass, and Blackburn Botha.
Military ships: Littoral Combat Ships, French pre-Dreadnoughts (except Danton), HMS Vasa, HMS Captain (1869), and Infanta Maria Teresa cruiser.
Tank / Tank Destroyers: Asad Babil, M60A2 Starship, Ferdinand, A13 Covenanter, and T-35.
Commercial Cars: Yugo, Trabant, Chevy 1923 Copper-Cooled, Chevy Vega, and Reliant Robin.
You may as well do the ultimate greatest lists for steam, electric, and diesel on separate terms.
Heck, you could also make a top 5 greatest spacecraft video; you already covered nearly all the truly bad stuff in that department. I'd say that Apollo block 2 command module + service module (except Apollo 13), Saturn V, Soyuz capsule (since Soyuz-T), Soyuz rocket family, Delta 2, Atlas V, and Falcon 9 are strong contenders.
Thanks mate, cheers.
I'm noticing a trend amongst these locos; that is CATCHING FIRE!!!
Great video ! You missed out the British Rail Clayton Class 17 which were very arguably worse than the BR Class 21 ha ha
I considered the 17's, but since they didn't catch fire I went with the 21. 17's will break and be useless, but they won't kill someone.
4 caught FIRE. Wow.
Hi Darkness! When you make another top 5 best trains list, please please PLEASE including the *Missouri Kansas Texas railroad's H-1, H-2, H-3 pacifics, and the L-1 and L-2 Mikados* the Katy railroad is very obscure and definitely needs more recognition
Very nice, like
14:14 i KNEW THAT THIS DIESEL WOULD BE IN IT THE 3 LAST DIESEL'S ARE THE ONES THAT CATCH FIRE 🔥 (Nice putting Instrumentmaniac's Diseasal theme)
The instant that I saw this I knew there would be at least two British Rail locomotives.
I've traveled on the Fiat 88 seater :) in service
A nightmare for Darknessthecurse is talking about bad trains or British Railways. How about History In The Dark - 5 of the WORST ROLLERCOASTERS EVER?
There are different criteria for what constitutes as some of the worst coasters ever. There are multiple reasons for a roller coaster to fail.
A couple of examples he could start looking at are TOGO's Windjammer Surf Racers, Green Lantern: First Flight, Son of Beast, the original The Bat (not the current one), Battersea Big Dipper, Krug Park Big Dipper, Harley Quinn Crazy Caster, Drachen Fire, Casino Pier Pirate's Hideaway, M&D Tornado (with the roughest corkscrew ever before it was replaced), and Fujin Raijin II.
Heck, Crystal Beach's Cyclone had actual potential. With banked turns and shoulder restraints, a safer modern day version could be built.
Glad you ditched the experimental locomotives for this list. A lot of them were silly, goofy, & downright stupid, but they were looking for new ideas and didn't have much way of knowing what would or wouldn't work until they built one and tested it.
Technically, the Baldwin RP-210 had a sound concept. The two New Haven variants being able to use overhead, third rail, and diesel motive power gave them the flexibility to go anywhere there were standard-gauge rails, but the execution was so bad that apparently it hasn't been tried since to my knowledge (apparently the lone NY Central variant had only the diesel prime mover).
The AnsaldoBreda IC4 has to be up there. It has a storied past involving Gaddafi and Berlusconi as well.
You could make a video on the absolute worst roller coasters that have ever existed.
Green Lantern: First Flight, Son of Beast, TOGO's Windjammer Surf Racers, the original The Bat (not the current one), Battersea Big Dipper, Krug Park Big Dipper (yep, two Big Dippers that easily belong on a list of the worst), Harley Quinn Crazy Caster, Casino Pier Pirate's Hideaway, Drachen Fire, M&D Tornado (with the roughest corkscrew ever before it was replaced), and Fujin Raijin II are places you can start with.
Crystal Beach's Cyclone is one of the roughest coasters ever. Still, it clearly had potential and a modern version with shoulder restraints and banked turns could be made these days.
Never had any problems with NZR Drewry / Birmingham Carriage and Wagon Company 88 seater Railcars we travel to the west Coast on in 1960's and 1970 's ( school Holidays) as far as I no only one serious fire in the North Island, around 24 August 1975 which left it a burnt out shell luckily no one was hurt. They were a nice Railcar to ride in, for all their troubles I was sad to see them go. One ex Drewry 88 seater Railcar is being restored by the Railcar Museum in the North Island of New Zealand.
It was really just the motors, not really designed for that sort of application. The rest of them was very good. Had they chosen Cummins or such, or least re engined later, they'd have lasted. They could sure whip along, regardless.
The RM class looks like a line of hotdogs 😂
The twin set rail cars were pretty good. Built by various builders in the UK, the Drury car and wagon company of London, the Birmingham wagon and carriage works in Smethwick and the Gloucester wag and carriage works. Yes fitted with Fiat diesel motors but they weren't so bad as people made the out to be. If anything the reason behind their demise was lack of maintenance. They were eventually converted to A.C articulated passenger carriages. Had many a day trip on the twin-set. They were an attempt at introducing D.M.U services to phase out loco hauled provincial services.
WTF Baldwin? Why would you make an electro-diesel with diesel hydraulic propulsion on the diesel side? Make it diesel electric with a big switch to take traction power from the wire/3rd rail or on board genset. Like a Class 73 or 88.
I'd be a bit careful about the fire thing, because some excellent engines had occasional fire problems - for BR examples, you can have the Class 31's and the Class 47's - but, in their defence, their fires were restricted to bogie fires, which was the least worrying of fires - yes, I know that is a bit like saying "This is the least deadly of the deadly poisons"! 😅
I've only just started this video. My prediction is at least 2 British rail diesels
Thought the Fell Diesel was going to be up there plus the Pacers.
Well Fell was a very early diesel.......and Pacers were succesful no matter how poorly they were built.
Fun fact... the Fell got it's name because it Fell out if the ugly tree! 🤪
The Pacers worked. Everyone hated them, but they worked. I consider the Fell experimental, so I left it off. If it had ever entered proper production it may have made the list.
@@HistoryintheDark Some of the Pacers have ended up in Preservation one passed a railway station where I lived. And also happy 100th to The Flying Scotsman.
@@Eric_Hunt194 When I first saw it on Worse Trains Ever it had British Rail built all over it.
When I am more confident at wiring, I will buy a Class 21 for my model collection. Then I will install a spare firebox board from the modern Hornby locomotives behind the grilles.
The 88-seaters eventually wound up having their engines removed, repainted green and used as locomotive-hauled carriages (nicknamed grass grubs) - these were also a failure because the railcars weren't designed to be towed and they wore out quicky.
No no no god no! British rail. “I always come back.” Lol
I always thought the worst US Diesel Locomotives were the Alco C-855's for the UP. They were a failed experiment that only 3 were built
The spectacular failure of the British Rail Class 21 is one of the more prominent reasons why the British Rail modernization program turned into a expensive financial fiasco. Why didn't British Rail just stick to *ONE* diesel powered locomotive design and saved themselves a lot of headaches?
The British rail icon or the 21 should have had a troll face
Darkness, you can never escape Britsh Rail
Catching fire is bad enough… catching fire in a country known for being ravaged by bushfire, even worse!
Yay! We're back in number 1! BR FTW! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Aveling & Porter TJ Class, they were underpowered and were only good for shunting
The Budd SPV 2000 could have work if the were rebuild to push and pull cars like what the MBTA of Boston Massachusetts did to the x- B & M RDC cars they work I seen a video on RUclips of an CSX freight train towing 10 of the Metro North
SPV 2000 on a freight train in the Midwest
LADS THERE'S BRITISH RAIL
BRITISH RAIL HAS BREACHED CONTAINMENT!
Idc what anyone says
I actually like the BR class 21
British rail: please allow me to introduce myself...
Petition for a compilation of BR diesels
I was beginning to get worried that the Lion on a Unicycle wouldn't show up...
Oh yeah. The 41 class. Just another thing from Australia that wanted to kill you, lol. Fwiw, 4102 is still on display and 4101 rusted away for many years before they took it apart.
To both defend the SPV-2000 ... and throw it right back on the list:
But first! Let's talk about the RDC (Rail Diesel Car).
Part of the reason it was so successful, was that it could run on marginal track at high speeds, only required a crew of two (and in MU operations that conductor could service multiple cars) and was in general, cheap to operate. Think of it as the Model T of DMUs.
But. Yeah, there's always a but in there somewhere.
The Boston & Maine.
See, they kept trying to use the RDCs to haul *traditional* passenger cars. Whatever junk they had floating around. As you might imagine, this broke their RDCs quite frequently. Eventually Budd figured out all the shattered diffs and transmissions (out of *a Sherman tank* - read: virtually indestructible in normal service) being turned in for warranty repairs were because of the above, and said "Okay B&M, Fine. We'll make you a cut down even cheaper version called the RDC-9 that has only one motor." The B&M was marginally placated.
Okay, now moving on to the SPV.
The SPV-2000 attempted to avoid "The B&M Issue" (and make Amtrak and MARC happy) by having enough power to haul unpowered cars around.
This resulted in a massive upgrade in power - a pair of Detroit Diesel 12V-71s - (I've also seen 12V-92 but I'm fairly certain that's incorrect).
Side Note: Wikipedia lists 360hp but the naturally aspirated 6-110 in the RDC made 275 (when new) so I think that's a gross understatement of what a turbocharged 12V-71 would do - my guess is closer to 500-700hp each which would also be what you'd need to drag unpowered equipment around.
Unfortunately in order not to overstress components and avoid excessive wheel slippage all four axles needed to be powered. That was Death Knell number 1.
Next up, and again thank you Amtrak, customers demanded that the cars be compatible with and able to provide HEP (Head End Power) - 480V three phase AC in North America.
The RDC used a pair of parasitic 60V DC generators running off the crank shaft of each engine for its power requirements (and used hot water off the engines to provide heat in the cars - one engine did radiators along the floor, and one engine ran to a combi heater core/evaporator in the "A" end of the car).
Unfortunately, that setup wouldn't work for HEP (because phase matching in 1970 was complicated and required bulky equipment to do it I guess?), so Budd went with an Onan APU (Auxiliary power unit).
The APU was a total, complete, and *utter* piece of garbage. Literally everything on the car was electrically powered. Air Conditioning, Heat, the AIR COMPRESSOR, the cooling fans, you name it (I think the windshield wipers were still air operated, but when your air compressor doesn't work, does that small detail really matter?) In *theory*? Great idea! In practice, Not Great Idea.
If you got leaves in the APU because it wasn't a sealed unit? It arced over and caught fire. If you ran through rain? It arced over and caught fire. If you let the car sit for a couple days and a squirrel got in to it? It arced over and caught fire. Catching the trend? It had its own separate cooling loop, which often failed, causing the *engine* in the APU to catch fire. If it arced over and didn't catch fire? It melted the windings and was garbage. Again, No APU, no go. (There were more issues revolving around the APU, but I think I've covered enough)
Why on earth they didn't use a sealed alternator, particularly in an APU that sat just a few inches above the rail head is utterly mind boggling. That's Death Knell Number 2.
To get a bit more in to Death Knell 1 though, the US railroads were having a dispute with their T&E (Train and Engine) crews over pay, powered axles, and axle loading right about the time the SPV's hit the rails. Eventually it was resolved through some heavy handed tomfoolery by the railroads, but not in time to save the SPV (don't mind the APU over there with the deranged grin and rusty spoon).
Boiled down: Over a certain number of powered axles, the unions said that you had to have a fireman in the cab. The railroads weren't interested in paying for a fireman, so they *pulled the drive shafts* going to the outboard differentials. The unions called foul, so the railroads *pulled the differentials*. Obviously, this was a very bad idea (tm) and on the rare occasions the APU was actually working instead of intently trying to stuff a fork into an outlet, you were pretty much guaranteed to destroy something in the driveline.
Note: My sources for the woes of the SPV come from several people who were unfortunate enough to be asked to operate them, and may include some minor embellishment, because that's what railroaders do when talking gossi... I mean talking to each other.)
Oh, but don't worry, Uncle Sam had one last nail for the SPV coffin: Around the time the SPV hit the rails, railroads were *seriously* uninterested in maintaining their track (and equipment) and so there were a series of incidents that lead to both the creation of the FRA, and the creation the track class system. No longer could a railroad look at some barely-hanging-on piece of railroad with barely a good tie per mile (see what I mean about embellishment?) and say "For [insert equipment here] on this segment, you can do 80".
Nope, the FRA says that's now class 2 track and passenger equipment is limited to 30. Have a nice day! Oh, that's right. Commuters gotta go fast (ish), ideally up to 80.
Well, that's class 4 track and you're going to have to spend a *lot* of money bringing it up to this specific standard (que railroad exec screaming like an arachnophobe meeting an African bird spider for the first time) if you actually want to run that speed.
So, in closing: they were hamstrung by a *GARBAGE* APU that they couldn't operate without, railroads having a p*ssing match with the unions, and increasing regulation because railroads wouldn't maintain their bleeping physical plant.
Had the SPV come out 20 years later (mid-to-late 90s when commuter rail in the US was seeing a resurgence) and had an APU that didn't suck, they probably would have taken over the commuter market.
Side note: virtually all the FRA (Federal Railroad Administration) rules in the US (and by extension North America) exist because someone did something stupid and one or more people died. Horribly. Usually more than once. People can hate on regulation all they want, but a common saying amongst railroaders is that every rule in the book is written in blood.
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If I get this right, you're saying one of these didn't have the power to pull a regular rail car? I always thought the idea was weird until it dawned on me that that's pretty much what subways are except electric.
How do I send you a picture of a steam locomotive that I never seen it's a big steam locomotive but with a V pistons attached to the middle driving will I did not see any rods i have a couple pics from pinterest i can show you so I'm not sure if it a worst locomotive never built or only one was built was it the worst one ever and you so good at what you to I love watching your RUclips and I want to part of the club I don't have the money I work for UP as a locomotive engineer but I'm always broke
please do a video on
the porters steam loco
the Japanese class d5,
how do gear trains work
something on saddle bolier and side tanks (like the big boxes) tank engines
double ended diesel trains
what to do if the train stalls
one talking about the different types of steam funnles and there uses,
a video on steam locomotive combination breaks (steam and vacuum brakes)
a short video on how a Armstrong turn table works
what did train flagman do
what did trains (mostly steam) do when going in tunnels, ive heard of gas masks or just useing a wet cloth, or did they bring in other engines like later on they used electric trains, or were there no bigv tunnels.
evaluation of electric trains
why are some trains wagion tops (the stream lining thing to boilers)
railway terms abd slang
one on the meaning of flag and lantern colors like green on rear engine means theres another one coming soon,
different train pilots on the front (and on back ive seen some)
the different types of cut offs/reversers/Johnson bar
some are a big lever, some are a big valve wheel, and ive also seen some that are like rods, one exsample is train sim world 3 and im not sure where to find the other reverser
And one on fastest trains
(Diesel, steam ect)
BR class 21 scrapped? couldn't they just sweep their ashes into a dustbin 🤔
Of course, it's the 21! 😄
I really think you forgot the pacers
I hate to say this but there are some WILD Inaccuracies about the BLH RPs.-210.....They were NEVER Meant to operater off of overhead caternary.
The standard version (NYC) was straight up Diesel Hydraulic.....And part of NYC s problem is they only bought one ...the Pullman- Standard Train X trainset was designed to have TWO locomotives,one at each end, causing difficulties in the ride.....also the nickname "Exploder",came from the trainsets themselves..... They had an Air-ride suspension system that was extremely finicky in the way it was adjusted.....if the air pressure dropped below a certain point,the entire trains suspension would collapse, dropping the train with a rather loud and disconcerting "BANG" on the stops,thus leading to the Exploder".......
The New Haven units were a different story...... due to legal requirements,the New Haven unit had to be able to operate into Grand Central Terminal electrically. So Baldwin had to add a third rail propulsion system....which SHOULDN'T have been a problem. Baldwin had actually designed some of New Haven's pioneering Electric locomotives. But it seemed they had forgotten everything they knew about those systems. Also,the New Haven's standard third rail supports wouldn't fit the RP-210s front trucks.Baldwincane up with the mount that failed......the New Haven's electrical engineers tried,but were overruled by a McGinnis appointee in the mechanical department. With the results you described
As for the Pantographs...... because of several very long crossovers in GCT,there were sections of third rail bolted to the ceiling of the tunnel. Because of this,All NYC and New Haven locomotives had special third rail pickups mounted on their roofs.But the low profile RP-210 couldn't mount them.....just before entering service,the New Haven purchased a set of pantographs from the Boston MTA, which were normally used on their Blue Line transit cars,to enable the RP-210s to bridge the crossovers.
The RP-210s did get some things right.... HEP for one,and the New Haven's trainset was used in tests that led directly to the design and development of the UA Turbotrains.
(I'm a bit of a student of the NYC and New Haven lightweights,so I have a bit of knowledge advantage here.....)
A hybrid. With hydraulic transmission because apparently electric current generated by a Diesel generator and electric current drawn from overhead/3rd rail are incompatible or something. Even without all its other issues this is the first major fuckup right there. Just put a whole additional drivetrain on the thing because you couldn't resist the Voith.
Why not the dsb ic4/2
Did you know Baldwin made a gas Turbine locomotive Nicknamed the Blue goose?
3:19. That looks like it’s parked outside the Phoenix, Arizona station 😮. Could anyone verify that? I may be wrong
Anyone know how Edwin J. Houston pronounced his last name?
The RM class sounde like the meme about the oval office constraction
SPV to Connecticut commuters means Seldom Powered Vehicle..
I thought the SPV was a boxcar
its weird how all of these entries arent steam
thus, steam supremacy.
Well, the 21 looks like it ran straight into a brick wall at considerable speed. No nose. None. Whatsoever. 😢
The RP210's are the WORST locomotives built by Baldwin 😡😠🤬
the class 21, British Fail at their finest
Remember that after WW2 boffins in Britain thought that the best locomotives in the world were steam powered and the world would beat a path to buy British steam engines.😅
In British rails defence, could you build a diesel overnight because your boss told you to, when you've been building/improving steam engines the last 100 year, you will make mistakes.
So shut up about how br is horrible.
some example of the exelence of br are:
Standard class 9f,
Class 55,
Class 37,
Class 47,
Class 27,
Stanard class 2-7,
there are many more just do some research.
The shark noses weren’t actually bad they did very well at hauling freight trains even though they were designed for passenger duty they did that well to
It’s just that they couldn’t keep up with the march of progress newer better stronger locomotives were built
you forgot the brand new New York City Subway Cars ... these things are HORRIBLE !! ... in a few short weeks - the brakes failed ... BILLIONS were spent on GARBAGE !!
Let me guess British rail is gonna show up in this vid
It's tradition!
@HistoryintheDark I was right and #1 even
Sadly, the SPV2000's were meant to be successors of the RDC's.
As for the RP-210s, I'm surprised they are worse than their infamous centipedes!🤯
The Centipedes were maintenance nightmares and an extremely stupid way to build a diesel, but they honestly did work alright in service.
The Adelaide 2000 class were also based on metro liner amfleet body and were very successful
How can ic4.. not be on the list.. and really not be in the first place.
Mostly that they never tried to murder their drivers.
@@HistoryintheDark Well.. its probobly becasue of the massive amount of maintenance they have done on them.
I have seen some photos of a wheel axle from a IC4 train, and that train would defently have murdered most people onboard if it was alowed to hit top speed.
DB have spent billions to keep just a few of them on tracks to save face.
@@matsv201I've never heard of this train and now I'm curious. How fast could it go?
@@ItsDaJax ic4 was the follow up on the danish ic3. Ic3 have a top speed of 180km/h, ic4 have one of 200.
Ic4 is share most of the internals with ICE-TD, but it is even worse.
Most of the train was delivered pre broken, the once that was nor soon broke down.
It wasn't just one problem but multiple. Some trains could have 5-10 major problems. For example the axels on some trains was not solid. There was so many cracks in them so it looked like a wooden axel.
DSB, shifted around parts so they could get some trains to work. They got something like 12 our of 70 to work.
There was a coruption scandal around this but not nerly sufficeny amount of people went to jail.
Actually starts at 2:50
And who likes his alfred e rampage series its halarioise woth the red eyes when mad and how he has a chain saw for the hole thing and jow the two peaple he reacts with are trying to convince him not to
Could there be anything else... well yeah the BR class 23 was much worse than the 21
I tvink nsw 40 class would be on there lasted 10 years withdrawn n fire the end of steam
So, no SD50?
I mean they didn't try to kill anyone with fire and were still more reliable than the SPV's.
Fair,
___k GM