Destiny 2 Lore - The Vow of the Disciple Raid lore changes everything! (First Impressions)
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Vow of the Disciple is Destiny 2 Witch Queen's New Raid. it has by far some of the best lore and story telling of any raid in Destiny to date! The lore impacts major areas of the story to the point that it rewrites big parts of what we know about the Hive and the Darkness! These are my first impressions!
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Honestly I'd prefer a series - give individual bits the attention that they deserve.
I agree, also its a very effective meltdown guard.
whichever gives byf the most $$
Agree, smaller vids with a focus on lore.
Agreed. So much about this is very new and therefore the more in depth the better.
I second this
I'm all for a series because it allows for greater detail on certain aspects of the raid makes them easier to watch without having to stop do something else and come back to it and won't burn out our beloved lore daddy Byf
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Same
I just feel like I had to say that rhulk actually feels like he is fighting you in his boss fight. Like he doesn’t just sit there and let you hit him he actually fights back and it just makes for an absolutely amazing boss encounter
100% my favorite raid encounter now because of that. he also talks randomly during his encounter, its a tiny detail but it really sets him apart from the rest of the raids, like hes the real deal.
I didn't like the encounter for the day 1, I think the first phase was too long and too easy to be redone 3 times for the kill
@@katsenpai6957true, I do like the final stand and the damage phase but I wish it would all be done whilst his attacking you, it would feel like you're a real guardian
The real implication in the lore I’m more fascinated by is the possibility that each ship has their own servant of the witness, which is both intriguing and terrifying.
Every pyramid contains the victory Royale winner of a race/civilization that the witness found
Imagine Calus, Xivu and Eramis all getting their own ships in the next dlc
I dont think Eramis would be qualified. But it would be awesome
As i am starting to view the Pyramids as the closest thing the Darkness has to Ghosts i don't see why not.
@@peteraustin9057 that actually makes so much sense. Just a species hunger games. Winner gets to live and be a piece on my chess board.
I was expecting the pyramid to be extremely claustrophobic. But I was impressed and disturbed by how vast and open it was. It felt like a tardis 🔥
Now imagine how huge the insides of the big ones ( like the ones on Io, Titan, etc) look
Bro it's so scary being in their solo, like you just want to get out 😂
I mean you also have to remember the description of the raid. Its a SUNKen pyramid. I think this pyramid was initially very large on the horizon but because of it sinking it looks a lot smaller
Sometimes, *nothing* is scarier. Coming in to an enormous empty room, and the incredible power needed to make that empty room, is absolutely terrifying.
I was beyond impressed! Smashing through the Scorn at the start, I was utterly convinced it was going to be crazy claustrophobic! Bloody Screebs everywhere lol. Then we stormed the gates, found that big open room, patterns on the walls, kinda "oh ok" moment. One of our team dropped down but died, we thought there has to be a door, there's a puzzle etc. Then we dropped down, being a bit safer at the bottom & then just room after room, all sorts of artifacts & then to the Obelisk Area!! Oh my haha.
Shoutout to Byf for being so consistent in Witch Queen with lore updates, much love Byf!!!
Hell yeah
gambit is a chance of salvation, take it brother
I'll see you on ifunny when someone asks a lore question
@@garrett_the_guardian5048 aye aye
Finding out the Hive were lied to: “Ye know, I genuinely feel bad for them.”
Finding out Xita, the Nuturing Worm was stolen away from her children against her will, and that the Worm Gods in some way were lied to and used: “C’est la vie”
No reason to feel bad for them, they spent million year genociding planets and solar systems. They don't deserve pity.
@@MonstertruckBadass true, they continued forward unquestioning with blind faith.
Kinda like guardians do with the light
@@Afterthought_ Hardly comparable. The Traveler hasn't spoken to us in how long? The Traveler gave us the light and provided us with incredible technological advances. It's a valuable asset and thus in our best interest to protect it.
@@spartacon5267 and the sword logic and the deep gave the hive immeasurable power compared to what they would have without it, it was definitely in their best interest to do what they did, as morally wrong as it is
@@spartacon5267 could say the same about the hive and darkness
Just a thought: I don't think the Witch Queen lore that expands on the history of the Hive can be considered as retroactive continuity, because it doesn't meet the requirement of breaking continuity. If we consider those story pieces retcons, then any flashback is always retcon. We knew from the beginning that the information we had on the Hive's history was from an unreliable and biased narrator, all they did, through Rhulk and Savathun's memories, is add and expand information, but nothing that we knew about was retconned or contradicted, no continuity was broken.
Bingo!
I was thinking about this as well. Expanding on what is known or giving a new perspective on something is not a retcon, changing the facts of what was known is.
Revealing Peter Parker is actually a clone or Tony Stark was adopted is a retcon. Telling a story about Wolverine before is mutant power activated that was previously unkown, not a retcon.
I think you missed a major plot point in the campaign. The worms lied to Savathuun and about the entire god wave thing. That absolutely changes some of what we ‘knew’ about the history of the hive and by extension, the universe.
@@jonathanschultz4045 the only mention of the god wave originally was in the books of sorry which savathun even mentioned that oryx was an unreliable narrator.
@@turtleturt27 i agree with what you say, but "books of sorry" are Oryx's canadian cousin version lol
I think a series would be better than a big mega-video, especially with how...interesting...the lore book is, I'm extremely excited to see you talk about that!
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@@Ja.floppa Help there are people speaking in tongues in my comment
I agree
A series please, Byf. This raid NEEDS focused videos and as nice as a long video would be it would mean skipping over a lot of things that need discussing. More importantly, we don't want you to burn yourself out!!!
Hey byf, I was watching your video on the old allegiance quest, and noticed something interesting. In the lore you read, the drifter is stated to be cleaning a glaive. Then, when he disguises himself, he used the name "Fynch". Probably nothing, but too intriguing to not mention.
To me, the revelations about the place of the Hive in their heirarchy actually humanized them. It was like when you realize that Cleopatra was born closer to the invention of the Iphone than the construction of the pyramids (is that an outdated piece of trivia? I haven't googled it.) The hive were so much more like any other species than they were like the darkness, it makes sense that Savathun woukd turn to the light. Rhulk says at some point that they got close, but still sought some kind of Purpose that held them back. The hive carried out sword logic, and fed Death, but that they still had something resembling their own culture or forms at all brings them closer to us than something like Rhulk.
They still had love amongst their siblings. However that love looked.
you totally googled it.
Got a few centuries to go before her time was closer to the pyramids than the now
Then it's time we save them all. Break the ranks of the darkness, and begin towards saving its allies. Some, cannot be saved. Such as the Scorn. However, the key 4, might be able to be saved. Perhaps a vex cult, that worships the traveler as opposed to the idea of assimilation. As this cult grows, they see their ranks felled by guardians, warriors of the light. And, we start to see some whose red eye, is not red any more. We see one that's pure white, of vex milk. Radiating. A sign of soldiers that seek to fight for the light. Our light. And, slowly, we gain allies in the ranks. A new base, within the black garden. Allied vex goblins, harpies, minotaurs and perhaps even a converted vex mind.
@@Zynet_Eseled vex cant be convertated to the light because they want to assimilate everything, the hive even if lied to still committed genocide on a level so massive that the universe might not recover from do not deserve "saving". Rescuing the young might be possible but those that have been indoctrinated need to be wiped out.
Let's get a series going, I know myself and many others would greatly look forward to it
I find the caretaker for extremely interesting, a hive worm in a scorn body. Stronger and stranger than most other scorn
He is also the only scorn to not attack on sight. Instead looking at the party as they enter the room and going back to his pillar.
@@morganpriest7726 also really like how rhulk hijacks the mission statements at that point, starting with "DO NOT INTERRUPT THE CARETAKER" when you start shooting him haha, thats when i first noticed it anyways. when i replay i gotta check those to see what they all say since i only remember that, the 3rd encounter and 4th encounters mission descriptions.
@@Ahnock DROWNDROWNDROWN
This bit of lore really is a "banana for scale" against all the things that the races of Sol deemed to be great conquests or empires. It makes them really miniscule in comparison to the grand game unfolding before us. Perhaps this game will soon span multiple systems in the galaxy, or perhaps to a galaxy not our own?
@@acardenasjr1340 could we be… the final shape?
@@drucejnr Yeah, not a triangle not a circle, something in-between.
A square?
@@darrylhammett63 Bit too close to the Triangle IMO, might I instead suggest a fusion of the two, a Teardrop?
@@keewardgamingvods Or a triquetra?
One of Savathun's statements in her "Two Truths, Two Lies" was that our destiny lied beyond the Sol System. So...it's definitely possible we'll have a destination like that.
I've seen bits and pieces of the raid and watched one group beat the end boss just this evening. Even just the look of the boss; it's nothing like we've ever seen in Destiny. If this is a taste of what is coming over the next few years....just wow.
The fact Rhulk went and took on the leviathan 😂 Makes him solely the most OP character we faced 100%
The fact it's basically there as a damn trophy too
@@Itsumi456 And that is just a rib of the thing.
@@Itsumi456 Where?
@@MonstertruckBadass Its Rib is in the first encounter. It's that big bone on top of the pyramid and traveler symbols in the middle of the room
@@Itsumi456 Ohhh, it looked like a hip bone to me
Just watching the raid and playing the preservation mission, as soon as we go in the pyramid, it felt like being in a completely new game with the setting, lore and the disciple itself and everything about him
Finally feels like we’re in that one piece of concept art with the darkness architecture and stuff. Loving where the game is going.
At first I thought that Rhulk was a member of either the Aphelion/Veil race, but then he revealed he was Lubraean and the only living one that remains. Does this mean that we now have seven confirmed distinct alien races? Or could it be that in becoming the witness’ disciple, Rhulk transformed into a member of one of those races since we know both are closely associated with the darkness?
It is mentioned in one of Savathun's memories that she says 'The children of the Witness'. So its quite possible we'll be seeing the first of the Veil in Lightfall if not the end of Witch queen DLC.
I know this is really late but there are other alien races that we've never seen before but were mentioned. Some of there were Calus' Shadow's; For example, the Arcborn.
A series sounds amazing. Being able to deep dive into a focused topic would be a great way to learn all the lore tidbits in the detail they deserve
You’re the GOAT, Byf. Stopped playing Destiny after Forsaken and came back for witch queen. But through all of that time I kept watching your videos because the way to explain and re-tell the story and lore of this world is just that good.
You make the game better, keep it up 🤘🏼
I WAS WISHING FOR A RAID VIDEO AND IMMEDIATELY MY PRAYERS WERE ANSWERED!!!!
Same here😭😭. I just beat the raid and was waiting for this vid and then bam here it is😂
Your wish is my feast. O lore nerd mine...
@@cihanbakikok9156 Drown in the deep oh lore lover of mine
I love the smaller videos! Thank you so much for all you do. Always great content
Byf, I can say for certain your Dynasty video is one of the best things involving Destiny I have seen, and if you can do more of those, that would be fantastic! However, I understand that videos such as that are massive undertakings that are likely not something to be expected often. I think some mix (smaller videos as the bulk to explain most lore in a series to give it the attention it deserves/a rare large video to discuss a major topic i.e. future Dynasty video on the darkness/pyramids) would be amazing! Regardless, I know I will keep watching because everything you put out is S+ tier and helps me understand the story of Destiny that much more. For that, I am appreciative!
As someone who probably won't get a shot at the raid for a good long time a series on it would be awesome. 😊 Also very much agree with you on the level design it looks similar to the Sith superweapon in Star Wars Rebels!
Why won’t you get a chance to play the raid ?
@@francisudubor6811 Mechanics in raids are obtuse and asinine
@@MonstertruckBadass actually for the most part it isn't horrible. The worst is exhibition, the 3rd encounter. Everything else is much easier to understand doing it rather than watching it. So give it a week or two and you'll probably find some good sherpas for it.
@@francisudubor6811 busy times at work and the F1 season is starting up soon 😊 free time is a precious commodity
Big releases should be for big developments and while this expansion/season/raid is big lore-wise, I don't think a single massive release is needed. I'd rather see focused videos that follow along as we learn. Great content as always!
Please do a series of videos. Each and every topic from this raid deserves its own focus and attention. ESPECIALLY, topics like Rhulk and Xita. You got this, Byf.
Byf, Multiple videos for Vow are warranted in my opinion. I appreciate your level of detail.
Yeah, if we don’t face a new enemy race next year I’m gonna be shocked
I love how easy they make killing savathun feel at the start of the raid, really puts the power of Rhulk into perspective
Its a projection of Savathun. In the final mission they are very weak compared to Savathun.
Besides the comment that it was an illusion of her, in the raid opening, note also that she trapped Rhulk away for literally eons, so I wouldn't say she isnt powerful by any means (edit: apparently he was there for eons supervising her, but trapped only recently when she got the light. Thanks for the replies that clarified this)
@@Dalbsinny no he trapped him for like a week after gaining the light 😂
@@quickg3798 I think there’s a reason why that place is known as “Savathûn’s throneworld.”
@@Erihk_ The witness sent Rhulk to savathuns throne world eons ago to make savathun a disciple of the witness, and rhulk also monitored savathun while also making endless worms from worm god mother xita until savathun gained the light. Savathun then imprisoned Rhulk 1 week after gaining the light (hence pre witch queen, post season of the lost) and cleaned all the poisons up caused by rhulk
Byf Truely thankyou for being so consistent in Witch Queen with lore. I must say that I love focused topics the most.
I can only imagine how much time it takes to make a mega compilation and I appreciate it man. The mega videos are amazing though, so I would prefer that. Its like I can sit down and catch up on everything right there.
Yoooo…that dynasty video was definitely a masterpiece in the storyline, storytelling, the illustrations, pretty much a 10/10 in every department. Still anticipating what xivu next move will be though lol
Definitely a multi part series. That way each subject can get the greater attention it needs and hopefully won't be as daunting to research, script and edit. Work smarter not harder. Try not to burn yourself out.
I only caught some few parts of it when you were going through it but I was amazed with how you folks figured out mechanics for it. I hope to get to actually do this raid at some point but at present it doesn't seem likely. Thank you for putting up these videos so I can experience this stuff through you :D
I'm happy with several focused videos, but I'm also fine with a big video, Several focused ones would probably be nicer on the brain though :P
I love the massive vids but I honestly live the consistent flow of vids do what’s best for you
I feel like one of these expansions is going to see the return of nezerac. Lots of his lore talking about his return is lining up with the story currently and where it’s going. Really hope to see him in the game
Seeing nazarec as a disciple like rhulk would be cool as hell
I’m totally new to Destiny 2-who’s Nezerac?
@@mrmaxmondays Nezarec is an entity, which we first heard about in the Nezarics Sin ( Warlock exotic helmet) lore tab, it says: "He is that which is end. That which covets sin. The final god of pain-the purest light, the darkest hour. And He shall rise again. When the guiding shine fades and all seems lost He will call to you. Fear not. All He offers is not as dark as it may seem. For Nezarec is no demon, but a fiend, arch and vile in ways unknown. He is a path and a way, one of many. And his sin-so wicked, so divine-is that he will never cower when dusk does fall, but stand vigilant as old stars die and new Light blinks its first upon this fêted eternity."
Whatever this means, im not that much of a lore expert, i'd recommend watching a vid Byf made about him.
@@mrmaxmondays it’s a “character” (more like a name) that appeared in 1 lore tab from an exotic (Year 1) and 1 lore card from the Drifter back in Forsaken.
That’s it.
But somehow even today it’s still hyped as some kind of important character lol
Could be a disciple of the Darkness or another name for the Witness if you want...
It’s also a reference to a graphic novel (that I didn’t know before this) that everyone seems to miss, Overlord, where there is a place called “the great tomb of Nazarick”, which sound absolutely identical to the “tomb of Nezarec” that we heard in D2...
I feel like he's going to be the Witness' Earth Disciple...which is terrifying.
Byf, youre definitely one of the best destiny content creators without a doubt. Multiple smaller videos are great and so what you want cause wt the end of the day it’s all great content so keep up the good work
would love a series of your usual mid/shorter vids man, really fits my uni work schedule and hope your keeping well and rested after producing the timeless masterpiece that is dynasty
I’m starting to feel like the Light and the Darkness aren’t as different as we once believed. They are both fundamentally paracausal, just in different manifestations. Perhaps what the Witness and the Traveler provide to their disciples is the same power.
This raid is so interesting in terms of lore, great video as always. Can’t wait for the lore video on Worm’s family reunion in preservation :)
I personally prefer a series, and honestly I'm pretty sure that it's also the better choice for you. Keep up the amazing work man! Don't forget to take breaks and take it easy from time to time
I’d love a series. I really enjoyed dynasty, but a 10 part series feels more manageable for my busy schedule…thanks for everything you do. I love your videos!
I think I'll prefer more focused videos or a series of focused videos than a mega vid. Thank you Byf! I recently got into Destiny and watching your videos has made understand and enjoy Destiny's lore
Dynasty was amazing I hope that millions of people seen it bungee devs and they see the amount of work and care that went into it and I don’t think there’s enough praise you and your team can get for it
We don't need something as animated and voiced as Dynasty. Have you considered time line for each major race in the game (aside from humans and hive). It seems like the exo awoken fallen and cabal have enough detail to give them a time line of sorts
Series of videos in a playlist or a massive video. Either is great. Thank you for the work you do!
This raid was amazing and I can't wait to hear your take on its implications for the lore.
I got my day 2 clear already and just helped some buddies today with it. The lore from it was great.
The part with the relic collection is the most interesting to me.
I can’t help but think… are we about to do a multiverse jump? Like, are we going to hop into a version of our reality where we the player haven’t touched the universe?
Well, we know the paraverse exists, thanks to Xûr and Stârhôrsê, and the Stranger's whole deal is traversing different versions of reality, so it would make sense.
And given that the Witness seems to be utterly omnicidal beyond the wildest dreams of Daleks, it'd make sense that after wiping our universe clean, it'd hop over to another one and obliterate that one too, and then another, and so on until everything possible is the perfect final shape: a singularity of nothing, perfect darkness.
Then, let there be Light.
Cannot wait to travel in the Marathon universe lol
@@davida1229 I'm looking forward to revisiting Oni.
I’m hoping for a new enemy species such as the veil. Could there be future disciples from each of the original races?
Fallen: Eramis
Cabal: calus
Hive: Xivu
Vex: ???
Human: ???
the Witness seems to want mara sov
Clovis Bray did the bidding of the darkness
Although i don't believe it, perhaps Asher Mir for Vex. it is a potential important named vex that isn't dead. But really that's the only reason i brough it up. I don't think every race will have a disciple anyway, Calus and Xivu for sure, maybe Eramis is possible.
Probably Clovis Bray I for Humanity. Or Exo-dom, but he wouldn't complain, especially if he thinks he could define the Final Shape.
Eramis failed, the darkness even “killed” her with Stasis lol
If she’s ever breaking free she will probably be on our side...
Focus topics are perfect dude. Anything you make will be awesome to watch
Multiple segments please, Easter for you and much more content for us haha
Thank you for all your hard work has been amazing to watch
This raid put into persective how powerful xol actually was. Xol is tiny compared to whatever worm god was on Rhulk’s ship
That’s Xols mum actually
I think a bunch of smaller videos on the raid would work a lot better. Enough different points to talk about that you can easily split it up. For example, I’d love a video on the third encounter, how those relics got there, and if there’s any significance. Not sure if there’s enough info on that stuff, but if there is, would be cool to hear
Omg footage from the raid :o I was watching this stuff happen on barbs stream (thank you barb for sharing that experience with us it was fun the Goofy silly parts the breaks, the constant improvising of tactics) I had a feeling byf had another purpose for those symbols
Glad you do these types of videos eventually. I can’t raid, like ever. Last raid I was able to do was King’s Fall. Too much work and not enough time anymore to enjoy raids properly, so these always help.
Good stuff as usual. I would definitely support breaking VotD into a series. Plenty of content to cover and shorter videos mean an easier rate of consumption (and production).
As a newer light, please do a "Numbered" detailed multi series please. As I found your wonderful content, I oftentimes ended up watching out of order. Keep up the great work 👍
100% series, keep it good for you and for your audience. Working through sections and doing what you do best in smaller segments is much better in my opinion. 😁 thank you Byf, love your videos.
I've been patiently waiting for you to do this lore video ever since watching world's first. Excited for the lore videos to come out as we learn more.
So the Traveler gifted us with the power of the light. Light as we know from lore was used for both good and evil, warlords and such, and eventually guardians. We've heard for awhile now that Light is not inherently good, but in turn Darnkness is not inherently evil as we were eventually gifted with darkness power as well and remained good as far as we know. So given all that, who actually gifted us the darkness? Was it the Witness, or....is it possible that the pyramid on Europa is controlled by a decent being, someone opposing the Witness and wanted to gift us with darkness for a fighting chance?
As mentioned, in the new raid in the final boss area, The Traveler, The Pyramids, Light and Darkness are separated and can cross and intersect with each other. Anyway food for thought. We heard a voice on Europa, it was probably The Witness, but what if it was from the Disiple on the Europa Pyramid?
Bungies flow of campaign to raid was amazing, having the story progress through the raid just feels so much more satisfying and they should highly consider this method for the next part of destiny
focused topics! makes me excited to wake up every day for new byf lore video
multiple videos on the raid would be nice because of what you said you can go into detail on topics i personally go way in depth with destiny lore and u are great at that and lots of info on each individual topic is nice. i wont ever complain about free content personally so the choice of the matter is yours to make my friend
Love the raid lore and I can appreciate the significance of the symbols- that being said, when it comes to mechanics, I hope we're done with symbol heavy raids
YES PLEASE GOD. im mute and doing this on contest was a genuine fucking nightmare, normally i set up a soundboard for callouts and set them up on like, my numpad based on directions so theyre easy to remember. 25 interchangable symbols completely fucked that setup and i was more or less forced to add clear 2nd and 4th encounters.
@@Ahnock Wow, me and my friends were all saying to each other on contest night, that this raid was going to be damn near impossible with in an LFG fireteam, seeing as people often run without a mic. I'm sorry for you, that's really unfortunate in this raid.
But I also like the fact, that it's not just clearing adds until the big bad spawns. Callouts and teamwork are supposed to be a big part of raids and as long as it doesn't get overbearing, I am fine with the symbol usage.
@@Ahnock Honestly most of the raids have absolutely obtuse mechanics, most people don't enjoy them I think. The ones in dungeons are fine, they are simple enough yet important to get to the end.
I’d love to play them, but my first raid and only raid took 5 hrs. That’s just too long. People joining and leaving…what a pain. Then I got mediocre loot.
Everyone should keep in mind that some of the newer characters suffer from the same issues they might describe others to have, like being self-aggrandizing. For all of their strength, they do seem to underestimate people like Savathun or Oryx "my man".
Every narrator is biased but some of those newer ones seem to be even more so
I could be wrong but isn't it fairly likely that the Witness tasked Rhulk with killing the Traveller the first time round? Savathun saved the Traveller by playing a trick, Rhulk could've likely annihilated Savathun with a click of a finger yet Somehow she imprisoned him? You're right, Rhulk isn't as good as he thinks he is.
@@Perkustin I mean, I feel that its pretty likely that either no one but the Witness would be able to kill the Traveler or no one would be able to. Considering the story of the Gardener and the Winnower and presuming that they are stand-ins for the Traveler and the Witness (pretty likely considering that we call Mercury a "garden world" after the Traveler came) it seems most likely that the reason the flower game is even getting played in the first place is because the Witness can't kill the Traveler or vice-versa so they engage in a proxy war with Disciples and Gods.
Either way though, I highly doubt that Rhulk's imprisonment was himself having less power than Savathun or anything of that sort. Rhulk could have probably blasted the Leviathan, something stronger than all the worm gods combined that created the hive, to shreds in an instant had he wanted. But, I think the main problem for Rhulk in this particular scenario was that he was in Savathun's throne world, of which is not only her personal mindspace but also is completely bathed in light. Now, those things might only put her on par with Rhulk in this exact scenario, and likely sustaining that barrier took enough out of her that the guardian was able to kill her, but it would still allow her to maintain a barrier.
Although, had she tried to pull that trick out in the normal world, I do feel that Rhulk would have absolutely mopped her if she had tried to trap him in her ship like in the throne world.
Hey byf thank you to you and your team so much for everything your all always doing.
Thank you so much for all the hard work and extensive research to flesh this games epic story out! I love listening to your videos and learning wile at work! Honestly you should consider doing multiple small videos that you can really get into the meat of the lore and other story related topics. There's so much to go over and you've got enough on your plate, btw dynasty was amazing and you deserve all the love that's coming to you Byf! Very well done! Thank you for being such an integral part of the destiny universe!
Honestly I think the boss fight was one of the most aesthetically pleasing arenas I’ve ever been in. Huge W to round up the DLC
Rhulk might have been beyond anything we've faced, but he was still killed in under a day. So powerful, yet when it's shown in game. He, the witness, and the darkness as a whole are just slightly angry kittens and guardians are just the pitbull that eats it whole.
Series please! I would love the closer attention to more details throughout the raid than a more general long format 😇 best raid evverrr
Great work, Byf. Thanks! Definitely i think a series of focused topics is the way to go imo.
Finally Byf, I was waiting on this one.
Agree with you that this is actual solid retconning, tweaking of lore and all that. I personally was always terrified that Bungie was going to fumble and hamfist some done to death trope of "the big bad was really just the underling of a bigger boss" , but the further inclusion of the Witness and co being a bit of a different player/force in all this kinda ups the stakes a ton and really adds a layer of intrigue to severely shake things up.
I do wonder how The Nine fits in all this.
Great Job Byf. Thanks for the info and perspective 👍🏻
Again, the treasure of the Destiny community comes to share his enlightenment. Such a fun raid, and seeing Byf help my smol brain grasp the implications of it, just is the cherry on top. Thanks again for all you do Byf!
It’s so awesome seeing how much Bungie has progressed over the years. I remember the backlash that they got for the Warmind DLC’s storyline and how the raid lairs of the Leviathan weren’t even tied to the story. And now we had Witch Queen, by far the best campaign in the franchise and VotD by far the best raid in the franchise. Destiny is finally everything I hoped it would become someday. I’m so hyped to see what comes next.
Best raid?
@@yusaidit5311 imo this raid was amazing, probably one of the best in the franchise (if not THE best...)
Love how they made a elegant dualist (or whatever it’s called) be the final boss. It’s awesome to see a boss move instead of stay still.
Dynasty was amazing Byf! We never expected something that incredible and do not expect one again. Whatever keeps you doing what you love doing is all we could ask for.
Series. I love the details you put into your videos. They are awesome.
Rhulk is definitely a harbinger of what’s to come for the future of Destiny 2. He’s our first hint towards that fabled 5th race, a Darkness race, that fans have been theorizing about for years. That 5th race, The Witness’s main legions, are gonna be in Lightfall, and Rhulk was a taste of what’s to come.
The Witness is coming, The Veil, or whatever this race is gonna be called, are coming.
Rhulk was the last of his species, he killed the rest of them
It's going to be all sorts of unique enemies with the disciples, it seems they use local races for their own purposes
@@atypical-bass1966 ah ok. Sorry, kinda overlooked that. But, seriously? That’s cruel.
@@hellothere-dk4gg definitely. It’s probably gonna be similar to The Covenant or The Banished from Halo, where this “Darkness race” isn’t gonna be a race on it’s own, but an organization of unique alien species that’re basically drinking The Witness’s “Kool-Aid”, if u catch my drift.
@@celestialspartan1176 it would be cool to see some less anthropomorphic aliens, maybe some really wacky bosses
I like that Bungo has finally began to use their environments to tell a story, as much as its lore. I also love that we're finally fighting something truly otherworldly, in Rhulk, instead of just another three eyed, four armed, open mouthed aliens. Very cool.
It truly feels like, with WQ, Bungo finally knows where Destiny is going. And it makes me anxious for the future.
Series is great! Don't get burned out making one giant video. Gotta keep the great content coming!
Definitely placing my vote for miniseries of smaller videos. Keep up the great work!
Personally, I would like a dynasty like project for Rhulk as his story and Lubrae is so interesting though I do understand the pressure that came out of dynasty so I would perfectly fine with which ever option you decide to go with
Byf I loved dynasty. It was lengthy but it was needed information. I appreciate all your videos.
You always put out great videos, do what’s best for you man. Long form or shorter form, doesn’t matter to me. Keep up the good work!
Less frequent mega videos, all the way, Byf. Love your content!
All for a series definitely. As mentioned above, sometimes (most times 🙄), just don't have the time to watch full on long pieces in one hit & then play around getting back to the point I had to leave.
The details, the time you've put in - series 👍😁😍
Keep up the excellent work please - no burnouts 👌
A series would be great to see! there is so many little details from this raid!!
Byf you do great job with lore vidoes
Focus topics are good, but at the very end a MEGA vid of everything cut together would be amazing! Can't say how many times I've listened to your story of destiny video or the full story of the darkness, they are amazing for listening to while working or doing things around the house.
Series of smaller videos is my vote. I love your deep dives on specific topics and feel a large video wouldn't be as good at that aspect. As always Byf, you are the best. Regards to you and your team.
Multi Video please :D - The raid is so amazing that there is so much to discuss and recover.
honestly I would like one mega video that covered everything . thanks for everything
Series?? This is so exciting ! This raid has brought out so much more hype
Focused topics are gonna be really good for this, I'm so excited for it!
I'm really torn about whether I want a mega video or a series. On the one hand I think that there's too much to cover in one video but on the other I just want all the information now lol. Either way amazing work as always! Can't wait to see what comes next!
Series!!! Thanks for the video!
Aw yeah, I've been waiting for this video!