Destiny 2 Lore - My first impressions of the Lore and Story in the Root of Nightmares Raid!

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  • Опубликовано: 11 мар 2023
  • Destiny 2's Lore and Story tells us about the Root of Nightmares raid. I completed the raid on day 1 and now I have some impressions to share with you. Overall this raid and its boss Nezarec have made for a really strong narrative. The lore of the raid talks more about the Light and Dark, Nezarec's Cult and how Nezarec first died and is now restored.
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  • @Astrapionte
    @Astrapionte Год назад +2170

    Ever notice on Conditional Finality that when you shoot the *stasis* (darkness power), the reticle and spread is triangular; when you shoot the *solar* (light power), the reticle and spread is circular (akin the traveler)? Really cool

    • @theogknight2292
      @theogknight2292 Год назад +80

      Never even thought of that. Nice observation

    • @draidchan7385
      @draidchan7385 Год назад +114

      I probably would have... if I got one. :')

    • @Sonicring123Dubs
      @Sonicring123Dubs Год назад +12

      That did not click till now good catch my friend~!

    • @dinojunior
      @dinojunior Год назад +5

      I noticed this from a video from Wallah lol

    • @alexstavinoha7923
      @alexstavinoha7923 Год назад +8

      the firing spread of the pellets also matches the reticle. when it's the stasis shot, it's triangular spread, and solar pellets are circular spread.

  • @mr.god.complex
    @mr.god.complex Год назад +1005

    I find it absolutely fascinating how Nezarec is one of the only entities in Destiny who is truly, indisputably evil. Even the Witness genuinely believes what it’s doing is just, but Nezarec? No. Nezarec only cares for his own appetite, and will use whatever force is necessary in order to satiate it. I believe this is why both Powers rejected him in the end. One of if not the only thing the Gardener and the Winnower can both agree on is that the senseless pain and violence Nezarec craves has no place in the universe. To me, Nezarec’s story in part serves to illustrate just how similar the Powers really are. They only have differing opinions on the best way to achieve their goal, and Nezarec was thoroughly against that goal. He makes the Witness’ philosophy seem civil and even valid when compared to his own, and that’s something I have to applaud Bungie for doing. There are worse evils than the Witness, and Nezarec is one of them.

    • @Emrirwastaken
      @Emrirwastaken Год назад +149

      Witness is lawful evil, nezarec is chaotic evil

    • @junnKhya
      @junnKhya Год назад +76

      This is exactly what I’ve been thinking. The light is focused on growth, the dark on subdivision, and Nezarec lies outside of both goals. He wants to inflict pain, not exact final deaths. We as guardians are an example of a fusion of dark and light that works, and us killing nez is proof that we are a better fusion than him.

    • @BlankReality0103
      @BlankReality0103 Год назад +1

      @mr.god.complex Very well said 👏.

    • @kutlumzrak2689
      @kutlumzrak2689 Год назад +49

      I'm curious how deeply Rhulk must've hated nezarec. It's almost an entire 180 from rhulks ideals.

    • @yourewrong9028
      @yourewrong9028 Год назад +9

      Nope.
      “Now, I could not possibly communicate with you unless I could emulate your mind, and with that mind, I acquire the moralities that govern you. By your laws, I and all my followers are evil. Evil. Since that first molecule coiled in the primordial sea, not one Earthborn thing has known a monster like me.”
      -The Winnower (who is most likely the same entity as the Witness)

  • @hithere5553
    @hithere5553 Год назад +590

    They should’ve incorporated Tormentor grabs into the raid mechanics. Imagine the only way to get to dps wast to have a buff from both light and dark and then GET GRABBED BY NEZAREC AND YOU EXPLODE WITH POWER. That would’ve been incredible.

    • @afett001
      @afett001 Год назад +55

      Or imagine if you had to "sacrifice" a fire team member in order to do DPS lol.

    • @clayless8701
      @clayless8701 Год назад +28

      @@afett001 i mean flawless tho

    • @Ahnock
      @Ahnock Год назад +24

      ​@@clayless8701 couldve been like, a mechanic that doesnt damage, like luring nezarec out and tempting him with a fireteam member while the other 5 attack him or something.

    • @harrisonlewis6093
      @harrisonlewis6093 Год назад +35

      I will say one thing, Bungie did say they weren't confident players would like the tormentor grab, so that's probably why it isn't a mechanic

    • @robf
      @robf Год назад +1

      ​@@clayless8701 like I've ever had that anyway 😂

  • @1sosluke770
    @1sosluke770 Год назад +194

    I think its important to note that the Nezarec body in the final encounter is probably not what he really looks like, more just a reborn version. The statue at the start is probably what he did look like before Savathun killed him.

    • @babyyoda6567
      @babyyoda6567 Год назад +3

      It’s literally the same body except he has wings from being resurrected, also without the cloak.

    • @Adultfeetman
      @Adultfeetman Год назад +29

      @@babyyoda6567 his new body was formed from just his head it is not his original body

    • @robert2german
      @robert2german Год назад +9

      It is still funny that our goal was essentially to help resurrect Nezerac just so that we can properly kill him.

    • @robert2german
      @robert2german Год назад +3

      Also, I think his animations during the fight are meant to convey his visceral joy at having a physical body again.

  • @Fitchy-ke3wz
    @Fitchy-ke3wz Год назад +611

    This is what we've all been waiting for
    At least they actually mention the veil and savathun

    • @hot_chocolate7626
      @hot_chocolate7626 Год назад +25

      This is what it’s all about.

    • @nevolence
      @nevolence Год назад +12

      Woooo

    • @PhaeronServinus
      @PhaeronServinus Год назад

      Wdym

    • @nunyabizniss462
      @nunyabizniss462 Год назад +22

      ​@@PhaeronServinus Nezarec mentions that she imprisoned him and stole the Veil. It's some kind of tool, but he doesn't tell us how it works.

    • @hue_lord_4208
      @hue_lord_4208 Год назад +11

      @@nunyabizniss462 Nah, he wasn't just imprisoned. Savathun straight up merked Nezarec, and the Witness kept his corpse in a pyramid.

  • @draconicdusk5911
    @draconicdusk5911 Год назад +374

    I have a theory.
    In the opening cutscene of the campaign, we saw the traveler attack the Witness with a beam of light. Except it didn't even harm him. It just grew life in the pyramid and resurrected Nezerac. We've seen time and time again that the traveler creates life, not destroy it. (Gaul is an exception he was a being of pure light when the traveler obliterated him, so no improbable the Traveler could have 86'd him with control over the light.) The traveler surely knows it can't kill with it's light. So why did it attack the Witness with it. My theory? it didn't. It meant to resurrect Nezerac. Why? Obviously Nezerac knew something we needed to know. Like the fact Savathun killed Nezerac and hid the Veil. Which means Savathun Knows what the Veil is and what it does. The traveler is telling us we need Savathun

    • @rudolfambrozenvtuber
      @rudolfambrozenvtuber Год назад +107

      I think you can infer the Traveler beam rendered the two pyramids it hit largely out of operation

    • @connerwittig9288
      @connerwittig9288 Год назад +53

      We already knew Savathun hid the veil wayyyy before the raid. It’s literally what Osiris’s visions are about that led us there.

    • @Luckydave123
      @Luckydave123 Год назад +37

      ​@@connerwittig9288 nope we didnt know it.. it was obvious to us gamers but not ingame to the characters

    • @Aj-py8en
      @Aj-py8en Год назад +43

      The beam of light definitely stopped the flagship pyramid from working ever again.

    • @yamz1156
      @yamz1156 Год назад +6

      This could make sense. Because why would the Traveler revive Nezarec on purpose, or shoot the pyramid knowing it will do nothing

  • @cyberostrich3460
    @cyberostrich3460 Год назад +84

    I really like how there are some rainbows on the ground and walls in the raid from the Travelers white light hitting the pyramid ship. Its basically light hitting a prism and dispersing the white light into different colors. The final shape is Pink Floyd confirmed lol.

    • @NakulKrishna
      @NakulKrishna Год назад +5

      Wouldn’t even be mad lol.

    • @talion4033
      @talion4033 Год назад +2

      Commune was the first sign

    • @RekttalofBlades
      @RekttalofBlades Год назад +1

      The witness opened a portal to a Pink Floyd concert. The whole plot of destiny is just the witness trying to get to meet Roger Waters

    • @-a-s-a-s-
      @-a-s-a-s- Год назад +1

      @@RekttalofBlades Hope he opened a portal to The Wall - Live in Berlin 1989. That would be my go to pick.

  • @jhustmyles275
    @jhustmyles275 Год назад +99

    The fact that, as just a head-in-a-jar, Nezarec was terrorizing Neomuna is terrifying simply due to the range. He's operating at between 2.7-2.9 BILLION miles (or 4.3-4.7 BILLION km).

    • @3ndlessL00p
      @3ndlessL00p Год назад

      I think that was more because his conciousness was trapped in the VexNet and infiltrated the CloudArk from there. Not broadcast from the pyramid.

    • @WhenToastersAttack
      @WhenToastersAttack Год назад +12

      Makes me wonder how strong he would be if he was at full power.

    • @dumbsterdives
      @dumbsterdives Год назад +4

      Yeah, judging by the lore of the acolytes, he was so psychically powerful that he was torturing and manipulating people across the galaxy even while he was dead.

    • @big-byrd3821
      @big-byrd3821 Год назад +4

      ​@@WhenToastersAttack Strong enough to nearly wipe out humanity

    • @Ahnock
      @Ahnock Год назад +4

      i mean, just think about how dangerous the relics were and they were just tiny fragments of his body

  • @Aj-py8en
    @Aj-py8en Год назад +190

    Surprised you didn't mention the fact that you can see Nezarec's body growing throughout the raid. The giant totem that wipes you in the first encounter and 2nd jumping section is the same one Nezarec breaks out of for his fight. He starts off as just a head, then gets shoulders and chest, then in the final encounter he finally has his legs.

    • @smokesky6863
      @smokesky6863 Год назад +3

      He has shoulders and a chest in the first encounter aswell, at the end of the raid he gets his legs, I don’t believe it changes in the jumping puzzle

  • @hithere5553
    @hithere5553 Год назад +343

    I hope we get some more out of the Acolytes of Nezarec. Destiny is overdue for human antagonists. The closest we got was the Dredgens but we never really got to interact with them, they were mostly just killed off by Drifter and Shin Malphur.

    • @iponce2
      @iponce2 Год назад +69

      Honestly, I'd be ok if we never got dedicated human antagonists. I can kill people in plenty of games, and I quite like the themes of unity destiny puts out. I like the idea of humanity being like "we had our warlords, lets be cool now." It be nice to see us grow, even in fiction.

    • @JoshB_TheTower
      @JoshB_TheTower Год назад +40

      Pretty sure the reason all the enemies and such are all these weird aliens is to keep the ESRB T rating

    • @lorentzdriver4048
      @lorentzdriver4048 Год назад +8

      Probably clovis becoming a disciple and him finishing the giant robot

    • @BlankReality0103
      @BlankReality0103 Год назад

      @hithere5553 Isn’t Drifter a Dredgen?

    • @jacob-2271
      @jacob-2271 Год назад

      ​@@lorentzdriver4048 finishing?

  • @DuskMarksmen
    @DuskMarksmen Год назад +77

    Regarding Byf's wish to see more of the Night Terror scythe in game, didn't we already get to use a scythe in Season of the Haunted? "Light and Dark, forged together into a physical manifestation of terror. Go forth and be the reaper!" It's also in the same season where we got the Nezarec's Whisper glaive.

    • @galactosidase2587
      @galactosidase2587 Год назад +4

      Or the fact that Night Terror is already in the game as a sword - one you can get from Eris on the moon, ironically (or prophetically) with the tagline “become their nightmare.”

  • @TheValorious
    @TheValorious Год назад +44

    When he mentioned night terror, I kept thinking I heard that before. I looked it up:
    Night terror is the sword from the nightmare essence lunar loot pool. It has a small hook on the the end with the caption "become their nightmare".

    • @Wormy_fren
      @Wormy_fren Год назад

      Wasn't the hook literally an ice pick?

    • @TheValorious
      @TheValorious Год назад +2

      @@Wormy_fren i mean sure it wasn't exactly the same, but it's cool to see the design traced back.

  • @justsomerandomguy6562
    @justsomerandomguy6562 Год назад +76

    Nezarec’s final line of always being because he will continue to haunt our nightmares and thoughts reminds me of something a certain silver haired, long sword wielding boy once said:
    “I will never be a memory.”
    What if Nezarec can’t truly “die” due to the imprint he has made on everyone. How wild would it be to have someone like Osiris just casually chuckle like Nezarec or just make some slightly weird change in his voice pattern when talking to us. Almost like Nezarec quietly reminding us that he’s not actually gone.

    • @TheNukaColaMan10
      @TheNukaColaMan10 Год назад

      I WOULD LIKE OUR ENEMIES TO STOP FUCKING GOING THROUGH THE 4TH WALL TO FUCK WITH US PLEASE

    • @thegothicslime2982
      @thegothicslime2982 Год назад +1

      Taniks nezarec reborn

  • @branchygiraffe
    @branchygiraffe Год назад +70

    The coolest part of the planet encounter is just the scale of us to the planets vs the witness to the planets, they are absolutely gigantic

    • @HelloMyNameIsZON3
      @HelloMyNameIsZON3 Год назад +1

      It seems that the witness can change its size, the cutscene with calus shows calus looking up to the witness after the witness freaks out on him also in the lore book it shows that the witness is much much bigger than calus

    • @branchygiraffe
      @branchygiraffe Год назад

      @@HelloMyNameIsZON3 is assume so, they can probably manipulate reality like we saw in the calus dream sequence

    • @holloworeo2233
      @holloworeo2233 Год назад

      ​@@HelloMyNameIsZON3 I thought that his transformation after the Outburst was him showing us evidence of him being the Winnower as Osiris describes the Traveler as the Gardener, the two being opposites.

  • @Cavalier100
    @Cavalier100 Год назад +117

    I really love the environment and the way you see the travelers plants slowly tearing the pyramid apart. I didn’t realize that the first and last encounter were in the same area, because it was so torn up.

    • @aresdelfante1001
      @aresdelfante1001 Год назад +5

      Wtf i didn't realize it at all

    • @dynojackal1911
      @dynojackal1911 Год назад

      Wait, really?

    • @InsertSomethingStupid2002
      @InsertSomethingStupid2002 Год назад +5

      ​@DynoJackal19 yes bungie just couldn't handle a way of properly conveying the fact that the ship was being ripped apart to the player and that it's just a giant circle

  • @jyapp4489
    @jyapp4489 Год назад +48

    After an extremely toxic weekend, I'm glad to be here for some positive Destiny stuff. This is basically all I'm going to be touching of Destiny for the next several weeks, so hats off to you byf.

  • @phenominal13
    @phenominal13 Год назад +258

    Hopefully we haven't seen the last of Nezarec. There was a lot of lore in the Root of Nightmares and there's plenty to explore after Final Shape.

    • @requiemlul3140
      @requiemlul3140 Год назад +30

      And that the lore in the helmet just didn’t sound like how he was portrayed.

    • @RaspyCh
      @RaspyCh Год назад +9

      @@requiemlul3140 most likely cause it’s a different writer

    • @thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong
      @thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong Год назад +3

      @@requiemlul3140 that was written by a member of his cult. they worshipped him and he lied to them

    • @Kazuhira2249
      @Kazuhira2249 Год назад +1

      ​@@Mechkami44 well id rather the villain stay dead when i kill him we definitely dont need another eramis beyond light situation or savathun atleast they saved eramis character in plunder and seraph so idk maybe they could bring nezarec back and make him relevant again

    • @josephpolitano8091
      @josephpolitano8091 Год назад +8

      @@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong he meant a different lore writer 😭

  • @joshdavis4661
    @joshdavis4661 Год назад +160

    I actually think Nezarec would've made one hell of a phase 1 to phase 2 boss design wise. I think most of us assumed he would be much more slender, considering the helmet and robes and his association with the psions. What if he started kinda looking more like a psion in the warlock gear, posing as if he has this amalgamation of light and dark from his resurrection under control, only to reform into the grotesque body he has now, showing the rejection of both sides.

    • @xavierrogers6918
      @xavierrogers6918 Год назад +4

      this isn't his true body but I agree with what your saying

    • @tiran7908
      @tiran7908 Год назад +13

      @@xavierrogers6918 more like not his original body, i dont think the concept of body or having a true one is applied to him

    • @acgearsandarms1343
      @acgearsandarms1343 Год назад +12

      To be honest, from his appearance alone I got a feeling this body was incomplete. He was that impatient to fight us because he could not pass up the chance. It looked too fleshy and underdeveloped. Like a botched cloning.

    • @voltus20
      @voltus20 Год назад +5

      @@acgearsandarms1343 fun fact, you can actually see his body reform as you progress through the raid, so i think you're pretty much on point.
      At 1st encounter, if you look at the place he's encased, he only has his head, by the time you reach the jumping puzzle, his body and arms are already grown, and by the time we reach him, he gets his legs, but definitely doesn't look like he was fully finished yet.

    • @xavierrogers6918
      @xavierrogers6918 Год назад

      @@tiran7908 I mean your right, it is also obvious that this body is not able to fully encompass his true power I guess, I feel like there's more of nezerec to come past the raid

  • @DoClain
    @DoClain Год назад +34

    I like the design of Nezerec. He has the scythe of a reaper, dancing with a weapon of death. But he has wings that push forth the color spectrum. Colors are the showing of light, and the wings are a sign of life, a butterfly from his cocoon…

  • @MW2proification
    @MW2proification Год назад +27

    I feel my only critique of the final boss encounter is that I feel that they could have did a phase where Nezarec pulls you into his Nightmare Realm or something, give him some sort of tendril, eldritch form there

  • @The5lacker
    @The5lacker Год назад +10

    One of the details I like is how the Light Roots are wild, natural shapes... up until they rip through Nezarec's prison, where they suddenly shape into the branching symbology of the disciples, reaching out for the Traveler. Paracausal force, quite literally shaped by will and doctrine.

  • @ubermario
    @ubermario Год назад +66

    Imagine for the Nezarac wipe mechanic, if you don’t have a refuge up, he grabs a guardian and makes the pulse come from them

  • @juanramirez7522
    @juanramirez7522 Год назад +29

    While I expected a more warlock-like appearance for Nezarec I think his design really complements his character. He’s pain, terror, he feeds on chaos, so it kind of makes sense that his figure would be aggressive and chaotic, his movements and attacks too. I really like that, and it makes him fundamentally different from Rhulk.

    • @nyalan8385
      @nyalan8385 Год назад +3

      Yeah especially considering that this is a newly revived and probably quite frenzied and hungry nezarec with a brand new body that just spontaneously grew from his severed head

    • @nightsregalia8641
      @nightsregalia8641 Год назад

      He looks like Larry the lobster.

  • @jessewyatt5941
    @jessewyatt5941 Год назад +152

    I am obsessed with Nezarec. And I hope he wasn’t killed off in the raid. I hope he returns someday. There’s a lot of potential for The Final God of Pain.

    • @S3Cs4uN8
      @S3Cs4uN8 Год назад +46

      Considering he's shrugged off death once already I think it is quite likely his whispers will return in the future.

    • @that_duck_man
      @that_duck_man Год назад +30

      Remember, Neomuna Civil News said that we engaged Nezarec, not that we killed Nezarec. He is likely to return again.

    • @jessewyatt5941
      @jessewyatt5941 Год назад +26

      @@that_duck_man He better, I changed my bungie name to Nezarec, Final God of Pain. He is my favorite character in the franchise now that Rasputin’s gone.

    • @dannyk7624
      @dannyk7624 Год назад +15

      pretty sure he can jump bodies through nightmares... maybe we'll see him in a more "collected" form instead of the chaos abomination we got in RON

    • @aljazslemc9569
      @aljazslemc9569 Год назад +12

      ​@@jessewyatt5941honestly i love the idea of evolving villains we get to fight multiple times. Kind of like how we had the callus robot and then actual callus or multiple versions of Taniks. The idea of maybe getting a strike further down the line. Followed by a raid completely different from this is exciting

  • @ahmedalmuhairi81
    @ahmedalmuhairi81 Год назад +147

    The biggest question I came away with after reading about Savathun's murder of Nezarec in the Conditional Finality lore tab was this: Why in the world was the veil located on Nezarec's pyramid?!

    • @Kazuhira2249
      @Kazuhira2249 Год назад +102

      he was leading the collapse and since the veil is needed for the witness objective makes sense it left on his ship then savathun killed him and hid it in neptune so the witness could not complete the collapse

    • @ahmedalmuhairi81
      @ahmedalmuhairi81 Год назад

      @@Kazuhira2249 Ijs, if the Veil is the last piece of the puzzle that the Witness needed to establish the link and bring about the Final Shape...why in the world was it in Nezarec's care aboard the "soon to be crashed" Lunar pyramid ship? That mf'er should've been on the flagship with the Witness under watch of Oryx, Xivu, Savvy (even though she was disloyal, the rest of the crew wouldn't have known it), Rhulk and Nezarec.

    • @eotwkdp
      @eotwkdp Год назад +20

      Basically holding a key a very large key

    • @dredgensolis
      @dredgensolis Год назад +12

      He probably managed to steal it before Savathun sniped him off spawn at his home base

    • @vatanak8146
      @vatanak8146 Год назад

      Something that this raid tells us is that the veil is likely an extrasolar artifact the witness stole from some other race in his early conquest

  • @Alassandros
    @Alassandros Год назад +33

    Speaking of Osiris being corrupted by the Nezcafe, I thought it was super surprising that Misraax wasn't involved considering he channeled Nezarec's power (and was corrupted by it before). I really thought that was why we heard Nezarec in the Vex Network, because Misraax is a splicer. I thought that would've finally attached someone who has a voice to the Vex (something the Vex desperately need).
    But no Vex, no corrupting, no terrorizing, no nightmares. It's too bad we didn't deal with Nezarec's psychic abilities. I wish there was a mechanic where half the team were put to sleep and drawn into a dream world where they had to fight nightmares and phantoms until the outside team could wake them up. I just they designed the final conflicts with their characters in mind more.

    • @Laachen
      @Laachen Год назад +4

      yeah, the mechanics echoed Spire of the Watcher (linking) but I wish they also leaned into Duality's (Parallel dream realms).

    • @equestrianmidnight5619
      @equestrianmidnight5619 Год назад +2

      Agreed. It could've been a combination of Duality and the very final encounter of Last Wish where players are running and carrying Riven's heart. Said players were teleported "inside" the heart as the encounter went on. That, plus an extra creepy grab move as Byf suggested, (the grab could've been the way you'd "fall asleep") and some more health to reduce just how much of a push-over he was, and I think people would've loved Nezarec as a final boss. In my opinion, he's kind of "meh". Good voice-acting, awesome weapon, beautiful arena... but underwhelming gameplay, mechanically and in difficulty.

    • @DualEquinox
      @DualEquinox Год назад +1

      My money, if Asher Mir doesn't take on the role as he is the obvious choice, is that Soteira will eventually become the "voice" of the Vex considering she was created by Ishtar Collective researchers using Vex technology.

  • @rod99ttett90
    @rod99ttett90 Год назад +7

    Nezerak!
    God of Pain!
    Discipline of the Witness!
    Came back from the dead just to get his ass kicked back the the grave

  • @fishnutz5196
    @fishnutz5196 Год назад +17

    Savathun told us we will have the power to bring planets back and well we did just that. The worlds have been returned as said in the final cutscene and in the coming seasons we will use them to follow the Witness. Ties in with Winterbite lore about Titan. The thing thats cool aswell is the final arena is also the arena of the first encounter as the root grows and terraforms the Pyramid.

    • @Silver19897
      @Silver19897 Год назад +2

      I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who was thinking that when we arrived to fight Nezarec. It kinda feels like we went through 3 copies of the same landscape.

    • @fishnutz5196
      @fishnutz5196 Год назад

      @@Silver19897 yeah the roots and tree grow the whole time if you look at the Tree of Silver Wings it grows throughout. And in the first encounter on the left hand side you can see Nezarecs tomb and its the thing that wipes you. Also after 2nd encounter you can see the platform slowly being taken over by the root and ripped apart. Cool little details like that make the raid more enjoyable, just feel the encounters are all far too easy.

  • @I-Civil
    @I-Civil Год назад +63

    As soon as I finished the raid this is the first thing I was looking forward to. Thank you so much for the work you and your team put in!

  • @yauma1098
    @yauma1098 Год назад +15

    This raid aesthetically is awesome because it shows both sides really weel, the light is chaotic as is life, full of color and without patterns and the side of the darkness, or more correctly the Witness is monochrome and geometric. The traveler represents the side of the universe that is related to life and thus free will, chaotic and beutiful in its own way, the witness represents complete order, symmetry and everything under control. It is eternal and there is no death, but it is not living. The witness doesnt understand it because he fails to see the good parts of the chaotic nature of life, he cannot understand it.

    • @NakulKrishna
      @NakulKrishna Год назад +1

      Could the final shape under your perspective be controlled chaos.

  • @praxisgonemad
    @praxisgonemad Год назад +16

    For people looking for a visual similarity between Nezarec and Rhulk, look back to Season of the Plunder. The cutscene towards the end of that season where Mithrax's mother is cutting their body into artifacts, it shows they have a Rhulk-esque design at the time. With their rebirth and new body, as well as the context of everything we've learned about them throughout this expansion, it kinda makes since they're just a bloated tormentor.

  • @ugorizzoli5830
    @ugorizzoli5830 Год назад +21

    One super cool tidbit about Nezarec: it's well known at this point that the first and last encounter of the raid are in the same place, in DSC fashion. If you go look at nezarec's crystal during the first encounter you'll see that he's just a head with the body in the process of being regenerated.

  • @Progamer1013
    @Progamer1013 Год назад +12

    20:00 I think a really cool final stand would have been Nezarec grabbing all SIX raid players and slowing draining your health while you try and pepper him with weapons (or supers if you can). That would have been legendary.

  • @alejandrocarralero2826
    @alejandrocarralero2826 Год назад +4

    I feel Nezarec running around, screaming and chasing you fits his character quite well, an unhinged psychopath who enjoys pain.

  • @zz1426
    @zz1426 Год назад +1

    When the work for hard mechanics went all into Raid aesthetics pretty much sums up this contest mode experience

  • @koldraxonofthefirstseven5718
    @koldraxonofthefirstseven5718 Год назад +4

    Something else to note - the civilians Nezarec speaks of, when telling us that if he were more powerful he'd teleport us to him by sacrificing "two or three" thereof, are the captured people we're freeing. It speaks volumes as to his capabilities and odd willingness to accommodate us, just to fight us.
    Sure, his current form was that of a Tormentor, but he probably didn't have many options for willing subjects to possess. His last form though, was more like Rhulk in stature. Other previous forms may have been 'Disciple' -themed after a point. In future I can imagine him doing as the likes of Warden Eternal or Harbinger does - recur as a field presence or surprise us with appearances via literally field-mutating a Tormentor using his new powers and then driving it, a la a Tenno and their Warframe.
    If we need a reason to revisit this Pyramid as a recurring mission, it'd be a simplified version of the raid to stop Nezarec from leaving with yet another body, with the raid's recurrability canonically being that Nezarec manages to get/make another excellent Tormentor form to inhabit.
    As for his weapon, it is a scythe/hammer, and Guardians never use either outside of supers or transient pickup weapons, like the Iron Axe or Nightmare Containment Scythe. I would agree it would be nice to have more mighty weapons but I'd rather want a second super option for Stasis across the classes. At a push I'd propose a Lubrae's Ruin style ornament for his Whisper which runs a Light/Dark theme through it.

  • @onlineakari
    @onlineakari Год назад +5

    Imagine in a later DLC that Nezarec shows up. He would be an absolute terror, something like early Attack On Titan when the colossal titan appears and everything’s thrown into chaos in an instant

  • @wonderman149
    @wonderman149 Год назад +6

    I actually thought he did embodie hate in his moveset. How he jumped around slashing and smashing in a blind rage. Also, when he would fixate on the player who got his attention, it was like he hated them so much that he just had tunnel vision, and he had to kill them. I just thought it was done well.

  • @smalls1342
    @smalls1342 Год назад +7

    Nezarac not having a grab like the tormentors is actually really weird, would of loved to see some sort of wipe mechanic or dps phase transition involving that!

    • @blueangels111
      @blueangels111 5 месяцев назад

      Holy shit, a detain phase like VoG. Damage starts by nez grabbing someone and slowly draining their light and torturing them, and then everyone has to shoot him akin to gahlran hands. The combined light force (and dark) then causes enough of an imbalance that the light and dark strike down on him.
      You could also make whoever got grabbed have a little bit of a buff due to something like their energies being intertwined.

  • @loganthekrogan2182
    @loganthekrogan2182 Год назад +10

    Hope you feel better Byf. And congratulations on wining contest mode.

  • @talialevi2723
    @talialevi2723 Год назад +8

    Very happy to see your coverage, and hopefully you have some information about the exotic other than the information on its lore card. Especially since I got super lucky and got Conditional Finality on my first clear!!!

  • @Juschiilll
    @Juschiilll Год назад +5

    i feel like RON is very very very good at showing you how the light and darkness live with each other throughout the raid it’s truly beautiful

    • @blueangels111
      @blueangels111 5 месяцев назад

      And they also show it by *literally* making it beautiful. They make the dark beautiful too. I love how much this raid progressed in how the dark isn't inherently evil, it just abides by a different philosophical ideology than us.

  • @phelan8385
    @phelan8385 Год назад +1

    Yes! I haven't played this game in years but I still closely keep up with it via your channel. Been waiting on this!

  • @xinfr4z893
    @xinfr4z893 Год назад

    I was literally just waiting for this video to drop. Thx Byf!

  • @Accarius0_0
    @Accarius0_0 Год назад +4

    I think they should have made his wipe mechanic at the fourth encounter like when the tormentors grab you if you don’t get refuge. I think it would be cool if he floated into the air and grabbed everyone that didn’t have refuge with his “mind”, it’d be the same thing as the tormentor where you float up into the air with the purple around you. Maybe since he’s the god of pain and nightmares they could add like a flashing “nightmarish” effect and maybe like background screams

  • @SgtShultzTO
    @SgtShultzTO Год назад +9

    Congrats to you and your team for a contest completion!

  • @mehmentum2626
    @mehmentum2626 Год назад

    my son (11yrs) started watching you last year, quiet often your on the big screen as we go about our day or like right now playing destiny together screen sharing your content. Its really great you do what you do in the way that you do it.
    Cheers

  • @jamesrichardson9355
    @jamesrichardson9355 Год назад +2

    I love how nezerec works in the fight. The guy is on you for the whole fight, he's great at putting the pressure on.
    Also I love how far we've come from a story point of view. We killed nezerec, who brought about the collapse. We in a way killed the boogeyman.

    • @dumbsterdives
      @dumbsterdives Год назад +1

      I do like that they've subtly made a point for us not to truly outmatch a disciple. (aside from Calus, who was clearly not exactly as high on the totem pole as he thought.) In Rhulk's case, he was so arrogant that he didn't unleash his full power against us until he was moments from death, and he demonstrated that if he had done that from the start we would've had no chance. And now Nezarec openly states that he isn't at his full strength, then gets rejected by both darkness and light as he tries to wield them. We've beaten two disciples and yet the storytelling has managed to make it so we don't feel like the disciples are no big deal.

  • @Great_Triton
    @Great_Triton Год назад +10

    I’m a simple guardian; I see a byf video I click it.

  • @epicponedge1177
    @epicponedge1177 Год назад +4

    The only downside I have with the raid is that the final boss's screams and grunts don't sound like they belong and are instead remixed Caiatl scream and grunts from Duality.

    • @ehoffart529
      @ehoffart529 Год назад +1

      Honestly if all the nightmare death sounds were just Nez's scream pitched differently that would have been a good touch.

  • @Vampqueenjacqui
    @Vampqueenjacqui Год назад +2

    So, playing through as I was listening, and while Byf was talking about Night Terror it sounded familiar. The legendary sword from Shadowkeep, the one we get from the Lectern, that had some mildly scythe like qualities, is named Night Terror. It has the flavor text, "'Become the nightmare'-Eris Morn."

  • @Rockalanche
    @Rockalanche Год назад

    I've so exited. Love to hear about and learn the lore. These videos make me appreciate the game and the Raids even more.

  • @KASTAWORON
    @KASTAWORON Год назад +6

    My main gripe with Nezarec and the boss fight itself, is that he was presented as this nightmare inducing, tormenting god of pain, but the fight had nothing to do with nightmares or anything “tormenting”. He was just a big bulky grunt, leaping around and pummelling his adversaries.

  • @blueveil3277
    @blueveil3277 Год назад +3

    Nezarec's Dark Harvest could be a gimmick in the fight. He should simply grab a guardian, and it activates a gimmick. Something must be done to save the restrained guardian.
    In this state, attacking Nezarec causes damage to the Guardian, as if the terror transfer all damage to the Guardian and empowers this eldritch abomination as he wanted.
    But, thankfully, if shooting the guardian, causes damage to Nezarec and so, Nezarecs drops him, as if the Guardian grabbed has chosen to be sacrificed instead of feeding the demon, in this way, showing no fear at all, only courage (courage inspires sacrifice).

    • @Lightna
      @Lightna Год назад

      And sacrifice leads to death (and a lost rez token)

  • @Black_Knight_
    @Black_Knight_ Год назад

    It was a hell of a ride watching your guys' first run on Barb's stream, looking forward to your analysis on the raid

  • @justadude.9969
    @justadude.9969 Год назад

    Been waiting for this one to drop. GGS byf.

  • @talialevi2723
    @talialevi2723 Год назад +3

    Imagine if Nezarec was a slender and arrogant force up until he targets you with his hatred, then he becomes completely unleashed and beastly.

    • @InterstellarBountyHunter521
      @InterstellarBountyHunter521 Год назад

      That would be awesome

    • @Lightna
      @Lightna Год назад

      Add on top of it that when you have the Nezarec's Hatred debuff, you can see him for what he truly is and it is revealed for all when he gets zapped by the light and dark.

  • @goldenyak629
    @goldenyak629 Год назад +4

    I wish Nezarec had outlived this raid. He would have been great as an expansion-spanning villain tying the seasons together. The architect of the First Collapse becoming the overseer of the Second. Then we finish him off ine final season's story conclusion to lead into Final Shape.

    • @justinmcneely2645
      @justinmcneely2645 Год назад +1

      It is very much hinted that he cannot truly die and that he has multiple bodies and tombs. I do hope we get to explore some tombs to find ancient weapons wielded by different version of nezarec or his force.

  • @inquisitorichijou883
    @inquisitorichijou883 Год назад

    I'm thankful for people who do this kind of content. Since I don't do raids myself

  • @marygoround1292
    @marygoround1292 Год назад

    Thank you for mentioning the aesthetic! I was so in love with the scenery.

  • @kevinmckinney2651
    @kevinmckinney2651 Год назад

    Was waiting for this videos since Friday

  • @darthbane5676
    @darthbane5676 Год назад +1

    Hope you feel better soon. Your health and well-being come first.

  • @yanislahlou9498
    @yanislahlou9498 Год назад

    the second i finished my day one clear, I have been hitting refresh for that raid lore vid, cannot wait!

  • @CloneUnit575
    @CloneUnit575 Год назад +1

    LETS GO i've been waiting for this!

  • @shilohlee4332
    @shilohlee4332 Год назад

    Hope you feel better!
    Thank you for your content! I'm looking forward to what you cook up!

  • @zacharygaume4395
    @zacharygaume4395 Год назад

    Thank you so much Byf! As always, your content and insight is so great! Keep doing what you do, man! Big fan!

  • @TheF4llen77
    @TheF4llen77 Год назад

    Nice, was waiting for it and get well soon byf

  • @uwotm-kn6ic
    @uwotm-kn6ic Год назад +2

    Encounter 3 is absolute eye-candy and was huge fun in contest mode. I'm loving this raid!

  • @cn8229
    @cn8229 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the video, hope you get better soon!

  • @KGARRETT0802
    @KGARRETT0802 Год назад

    You're the first person I have ever cared to subscribe to and also turn the bell on. Thanks for the lore, and here's to the Final Shape guardian!

  • @daviewarnock718
    @daviewarnock718 Год назад

    Well done Byf.
    Great video, look forward to all the new lore.

  • @SyntheticHuman01
    @SyntheticHuman01 Год назад +1

    The one thing I took away from playing the raid and watching your video. Is how the Travelers beam that terraforming the interior of the ship was so violent and destructive. As we make our way theres nothing but beautie in this destructive force. It looks like a huge upheaval took place as life spring up.

  • @SUPERDESERTOPIUM
    @SUPERDESERTOPIUM Год назад +1

    Nezarec i think will probably be present in future seasons and his cult too, we might deal with his cult in later seasons.
    Where they try to bring him back through pain

  • @peanut93able
    @peanut93able Год назад

    i loved when u first approach him that he has this mad laugh. he really is enjoying every last peace of it

  • @GlowDarkBat
    @GlowDarkBat Год назад +1

    The planet room, looks like and very well may be the room the Witness was first shown at the end of Witch Queen, and that was super cool!

  • @akusoul30
    @akusoul30 Год назад

    First off let me say. I’ll forever love your content I’ve been subscribed to this channel since forsaken dropped. Your videos are what I usually just let play in the background as I listen on my ear pods while I’m at work. Thank you for the stories. But also. There IS a sword called night terror. It was in the scarlet keep campaign and can be seen in the collections page for legendary swords.

  • @sichigojd
    @sichigojd Год назад +2

    I hope we get to see more of Nezarec in the final shape and beyond It would be nice to see his original form and his some of his void and nightmare powers

  • @Sukkulents_
    @Sukkulents_ Год назад

    I've been waiting for this video so bad lmao

  • @huntingfishxea92
    @huntingfishxea92 Год назад

    You take your time good sir on making the videos to your standard im fine waiting!

  • @Thoric_
    @Thoric_ Год назад +1

    Hats off to Zinck, the MVP of Day One! Your team was actually really fun to watch

  • @jamesthistleton
    @jamesthistleton Год назад

    Very much looking forward to your insights on the RoN Lore!

  • @pascalwolf5663
    @pascalwolf5663 Год назад

    A shot every time Byf says „and you know what?“ 😂
    And you know what? Again a great video, keep up the good stuff! Really looking forward to you presenting all the raid lore

  • @thewaffle4049
    @thewaffle4049 Год назад +2

    Yeah I've gotta agree with the design critiques. When I saw rhulk in the plunder cutscene and heard his voice and lore, I had always assumed he would be more of a kniving villain in the shadows. More amorphous, somewhat incomprehensible I guess. But here he kinda just looks like a brute I guess. The tormentors were scarier than the real deal

    • @SapphireTempestCandleOfStories
      @SapphireTempestCandleOfStories Год назад +1

      I agree wholeheartedly. Nezarec's design was....Interesting...But it would have been cooler if it wasn't just a giant Tormentor with a Nezarec helmet and butterfly wings.

  • @nathin157
    @nathin157 Год назад +2

    One thing that I hope gets expanded upon more tho is the interactions between the disciples of the Witness. I don't think we've ever had either Rhulk, Calus or Nezarec talk about the other 2 etc. Would've been nice if the player has beaten VoTD before RoN, Nezarec has a voiceline about us beating Rhulk (since I think Rhulk was the one who introduced Nezarec to the Witness)

  • @snoozy773
    @snoozy773 Год назад

    I love RoN so much and I can't wait to learn more it! Thank you Byf!

  • @mr.god.complex
    @mr.god.complex Год назад

    Been waiting for this

  • @rivercreature2579
    @rivercreature2579 Год назад

    I have been waiting for this. Never clicked so fast

  • @karankt0963
    @karankt0963 Год назад

    top notch as always!

  • @snart8466
    @snart8466 Год назад

    I was really hoping for a post raid mission like the one after vow. I can’t do the raid normally but being able to go through the raid rooms is so cool

  • @chilliewhk
    @chilliewhk Год назад

    Encounter 3 is by far one of my favorite raid encounters in Destiny. Visually and audibly it's just awesome.

  • @GundaManBatan
    @GundaManBatan Год назад

    Grats on your clear byf

  • @piranha_lol
    @piranha_lol Год назад +1

    note that during the first encounter you can see the remains of nezarec inside the darkness crystal. Whats left of his body looks different from his new body that we fight against in the final encounter. Some of the traveler/trees life-creating powers reached nezarec through the root that has grown through his crystal, and as we progress through the raid and help the seed grow into a tree this power gets stronger. The combination of the light from the roots of the tree of silver wings and the darkness from the pyramid structure that holds his body end up bringing him back to life. However, it seem that his outer form has changed from what it was when he was originally killed by savathun.

  • @eman2132
    @eman2132 Год назад

    Thanks for the vid and feel better

  • @sadlittlewizard7188
    @sadlittlewizard7188 Год назад

    Now THIS is thw RoN video I've been waiting for!

  • @yobootyhadmeded3022
    @yobootyhadmeded3022 Год назад

    the byf video dropped 🎉🎉

  • @thegreatoffendo4532
    @thegreatoffendo4532 Год назад

    I really find it in Interesting how much of the raid had a oceanic theme. What with the raid armor and guns looking like shells and underwater sea slugs. Neat linking metaphors to previously themes of "the deep" and drowning. Also find it cool that weaponary featured an irridescent glowing effect similar to deep sea life that needs to make their own light in the darkness of the abyss.

  • @robert2german
    @robert2german Год назад

    One detail of the environment that stood out to me was during the return to Nezerac, the platforms with green grass resemble, to me, cysts opening up, which brings to mind that one lore page from the Unveiling lore book when the Winnower argues against the Gardener’s idea for complexity.

  • @noabsolutelynot3660
    @noabsolutelynot3660 Год назад +1

    The pattern of the Portal on the Traveler closely matches the pulsating windows in the Throne World.

  • @jacobrooms
    @jacobrooms Год назад

    With my pc dying right after starting the dlc, been looking forward for this video to learn about the raid.

  • @patrickbo2045
    @patrickbo2045 Год назад

    Ah I've been wanting to meet this Nezarec for a very long time. I wish the circumstances could have been different.
    Awesome raid, great day 1 experience!