Plastic vs. Bone Yamaha FG850
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Let's see if this comparison can help draw conclusions with the plastic vs. bone nut and saddle discussion on the Yamaha FG 850.
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I heard that the plastic was louder and kinda smoother, the bone seemed to allow the individual notes to have clarity even when played together in chords. I liked them both. I have a Red Label FSX3 and it comes with urea nut and saddle. I bet it's not worth the trouble and expense of switching it to bone. Urea is a terrible name, but it's good stuff in guitars.
Your take sounds right to me. Upgrade if you wish but, as is, is just fine. I do like the roundness of the tone that bone gives, particularly on the bass strings. The difference on the higher strings eludes my ears. I played an FS5 last month that was absolutely killer. I imagine the FS3X is similar. Great guitar! And yes, the engineering dept. isn't doing the marketing dept. any favors with a name like that. Cheers!
I preferred the plastic on the rolling G to C at 3:14 surprisingly. The bass notes sounded a bit clearer. Thanks for doing this, I have a high end guitar and couldn't believe they put a plastic saddle in there. After hearing this, I was clearly biased toward the thought of a more natural material and it's not a necessity to change it out.
I'm glad it showed something valuable. I hear good tone in both materials as well. Thanks!
Bone has a bit drier tone. Removes some boominess in the base and tightens up the treble as well. I think I prefer the bone but not a huge difference. Sounds louder when it is the plastic so could perhaps be a bit closer to the mic then or something?
I appreciate you sharing your perceptions. Gives me more vocabulary to discern and describe the qualities. I do plan to make another video and ensure I'm playing with the same texture. Cheers
Original saddle and nut of Yamaha FG800/820/830/850 was made from urea.. thats very good material for saddle and nut.. the sound is big and loud, and also crisp.. I was try urea, bone and nubone in my Yamaha fs800..
Yes, it is good material. Yamaha makes'em right and you don't have to do anything to them to sound great. The FS800 is a great guitar, good choice, cheers!
The bone is mellower, the plastic is louder but the highs are pingy.
Maybe a different strum approach would help that, but the mellowed is prefer
Nice, I'm for the mellow as well.
Wow, nice tone. I am searching for a Yamaha dreadnought with an overall well rounded balance sound. Im somewhat new, but ive heard rosewood can provide some nice deep tones over Mahagony? Maybe depending?
Different flavors. You have to play'em and get a feel for what you want in real time. Enjoy the searching and good luck!
@@jasonvalcourt Yesir, agree, I tend to burn myself out reviewing before purchasing.
Watching through TV the plastic actually sounds great, probably due to the guitar being set up nice in the first place Think I'd try ebony or rosewood pins to compare those but standard the guitar is ace. Defo wanting to try an 850 out in a shop.
Amazing how nice it sounds with the stock plastic. Can't go wrong. I'll try different pins down the road. That'll be another subtelty the mic will probably struggle to capture. Hope you find one to try out. Thanks!
I don’t hear a lot of difference the bone maybe clearer but that guitar sounds really nice I have a Yamaha ls6 I think I want one of those fg 850
This exercise showed me how subtle it is to discern the difference through a mic. From the players side it seemed so obvious? I'm inclined to even out my playing/texture/attack and do another video to get a closer comparison...or just to drive us all crazy. Whatever the setup though, the guitar is a just plain and simple a really nice guitar. I bet the LS6 is great too. Thanks!
Howdy 😀👋. I have the same thoughts... I own a Yamaha LL6 at the moment, had a couple of Ll16's also... To me at least in this video, the Mahogany 850 sounds really nice... It'd me ice to know how the fret work is been done on the FG-series compared to the LL 's. If the fret work is equal, I'd be aligned to the FG 850; after all, the FG-series is their original Dreadnought model. Also I've been thinking about the notch smaller FS850. The scale length would be more suitable for fingerstyle.
Btw, thanks for the videos 👍💥‼️🎵
It’s very close. To my sensitive ear the bone rolls off the more shrill highs that are heard with the plastic. Bone produces a more balanced full tone to me.
Nice, thanks. I like the bite I hear that the bone gives to the tone.
Wish the FG series came stock with bone or tusq or zero fret. I'd pay extra.
Interesting idea. I don't see zero frets often. There must be a reason why they're not used more, but I can't say I know much about them. Cheers!
From 3:14, low tone with bone so clear
Yes!
Given a bone saddle was like $5-10 for my fs800 I think everyone should just try this. In person I think bone sounds a lot better. On your video it sounds similar.
Excellent, good stuff. I like that "dry" sounding bone that I hear as well, cheers!
I wish they made a Yamaha fs850. It would be perfect.
but they do! Hope you come across one, cheers!
it's time that's the test, and how much it's been played. at first they sound sound pretty much similar, the plastic may even sound better, this because it's been cured to the guitar longer. the bone needs time to settle in.
Makes sense to me. I played it all last weekend and enjoyed it thoroughly, cheers
@@jasonvalcourt good , keep playing and i guarantee you'll sound better
@@robertlsvejda Perfect advice, thank you!
Bone😇🥰❤💯💪
Nice, I like the tone, too, and am happy with the upgrade. Cheers!
Bone sounds crispier, plastic mellower
I'm picking up on that too. I hear it in the bass notes the most. Honestly, I was shocked at how similar it sounded through the mic. While playing it seemed like a huge difference. Maybe another video is in order. Thanks!
I heard the best is brass
Interesting. Haven't tried that on nut and saddle, but I've seen pins.
Soundwise no need for changing to bone.
I feel you, the original setup is not really lacking at all. Fun stuff to play with though! I do like the bite that I hear in the bone. As I mentioned in one of the videos, I was shocked in playing the video back that the difference was so hard to discern. Seemed so drastic from the player's POV!
Skip all the head wagging and nonsense...
Haha! Shut up and play man!