DISCLAIMER: Calling it the "worst" doesn't mean it's bad - I just think pretty much every other Smash game ends up being better once the build up, release, and DLC all fade away. But I'd also love to know your opinions! If you disagree that's okay :)
In my opinion, It is definitely one of the weakest Smash Bros games, sure. but I still don't think it's bad, I still like the game despite its flaws and missing features, and I do still consider the game to be good. I just think there is no bad Smash game.
@@Aaronitmar I mentioned this in another comment but I think it’s worth repeating: Smash Bros. is a very special series where every instalment is great. It’s the finest example of quality over quantity.
@@YoshiTheeMiniPegasusYeah since Snake and Wolf were my two favorite characters from Braw then they later cut from smash4 and I think the reason why Wolf was cut is because of him being a low poly character because of his moveset and for Snake is probably due to copyright issues from Konami
People really sleep on Smash Run. City Trial + Smash Bros is the best idea the franchise has ever had for a side mode, and I was so much more disappointed by the lack of Smash Run in Ultimate than I was a story mode. I want there to be an online version of Smash Run soo bad. Especially with the enemy roster that could be expanded by Ultimate's roster, like adding Angels from Bayonetta, or bosses from Monster Hunter.
You're preaching to the choir, fellow Smash Runner. That's why I still play Smash for 3DS to this day; the mode is a diligent way to kill some time, if not anything more.
Smash 4 can't be the worst when Smash 64 exists and has vastly less content even in the singleplayer department while also generally having less polish and features. Even then Smash 4 had the best online multiplayer (low bar but still) and I would still rather do casual local matches in Smash 4 than Melee. I also don't see how the game is "forgettable" at all because for one, playing with custom moves online with friends was an unforgettable experience.
I agree. I understand the restrictions of the Nintendo 64, but it doesn't make the game better. We should compare the game in a vacuum. Melee still holds up great today, but not 64.
@@Liggliluffalso you gotta remember smash 64 was the first game in the series there wasn’t that level of expectation with it. Like more recent smash games
Smash 64 is really fun, there's an actual reason to play it unlike smash 4 which is nowadays just ddowngraded ultimate. Smash 64 feels distinct enough for there to be more reason to play it over 4.
I would rather play this than 64. But thag was so long ago, the bar ain't thag high. By no means is smash 4 bad, it's just nothing in comparison to literally every other entry.
It’s weird, Smash 4 always felt like it was so hype and just there at the same time. I feel like the Wii U era as a whole is kinda the reason why this game is seen in lesser regards. That being said, I still really enjoy it. The new characters and stages are great, and the core gameplay felt the most refined up to that point, and I’m so grateful it exists. However, at the end of the day, it does feel like this game walked so Ultimate could soar.
People are looking at smash 4 from different perspectives. The harshest opinions come from competitive players that can’t separate the rage mechanic, bayonetta, ladder combos, everything that people hate fighting against in this game. I’m a competitive player myself and dislike those parts of the game, but it doesn’t take a genius to realize smash 4 itself was an important game in the franchise, the additions that were new to that game are what made ultimate an amazing game.
Why is this one the worse one when it was the one to laid the foundation to what Ultimate became and was praised for? If anything through process of elimination the worse Smash Bros game is the first one.
@@c0mpu73rguy Being the foundation for something great doesn't really make the foundation itself any better or worse. Smash 64 should be APPRECIATED, but saying it's better than Smash4 despite it's obvious shortcomings, just because it started things, feels silly.
@@c0mpu73rguy Well, yeah. So... what? Smash 64 is still it's own game. It still doesn't get better or worse by what came after it. As I said: It is to be RESPECTED for it's influence and achievements, which DID carry over into the next game. As a MILESTONE, it became greater. But the game itself didn't get any better or worse just for it being the predecessor to something greater
Because Ultimate came out in December 2018, Smash fans got really tired of using their Wii Us to play Smash during the first 2 years of Switch's lifespan.
I actually prefer Smash Wii U's visuals over Ultimate's, the contrast was just so much better, and sure Ultimate looks better from a lighting standpoint but the way Wii U's colors just pop makes me yearn for an Ultimate mod that brings back this style.
If Super Smash Bros. 6 cuts half of the Fighters like the Internet is predicting, then Smash 6 will be the worst Smash Game for that reason alone. I’m sorry, I can’t fathom the Switch 2 having hardware limitations.
Yeah, I agree. I pray that the next Smash game keeps Ultimate's fighter roster and all its stages, and also hoping for the 15 stages that were excluded, and brand new characters and stages.
Smash 6 will have roughly the same amount of characters as Brawl. So expect TONS of cuts. The entire roster will consist of Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, and Fire Emblem characters. Everyone else is gone, aside from DLC.
That wouldn’t be horrible though, a lot of the characters are echo fighters and/or have uninspiring movesets. Ultimate has everyone to choose from but when you get down to it it’s nothing special
Sakurai regretted putting Bayonetta in. I still remember his reaction when he realised she still had an unfair advantage over everyone else in Ultimate's first build.
Smash 64 is the worst one based on lack of content and characters. It's okay to say that the first game of a series is the worst when the sequels are way better, sequels are supposed to be better.
I agree,I really respect smash 64 for being the foundation, the beginning of the amazing series, but that does not make it automatically better than any of the sequels because they're just better in every way.
(12:00) Amiibos didn't learn a thing. It gains a value and increases in CPU level, and starts cheating. They're just a cheating CPU, not a good trained AI.
I always thought that SSB4 was the black sheep of the Smash Bros franchise. Mostly because it was divided between two consoles and there was hardly an Adventure Mode in the WiiU.
Given the title of the video and its thumbnail, I was prepared to get defensive over Smash 4, Aaronitmar. After watching the video in full and reading your pinned message, I can respect your thoughts. Smash 4 was, is, and always will be my favorite Smash game. Even so, I see where the limitations of 3DS or the lack of direction in Wii U hold it back. For me, any weakness mentioned in the video is made up in some other ways. Don't worry; I don't suddenly hate you. Your Costume Origins of Smash 4 got me into your channel. Incidentally, I find the alts in this game to be my favorites across the series. It's basically an "agree to disagree" situation. Good video.
Tbh Mr. Game and Watch and my main Olimar both destroy the "this character wouldn't work for a fighting game" yapping that people initially had for Villager and Wii Fit Trainer. Mr. Game and Watch made things like catch oil in a bucket, walk over sea turtles and flip food in its frying pan. And Olimar could literally only throw pikmin (and punch but like he can't even jump) so it's silly to think that to this day people would be like "Nooo Captain Toad wouldn't work for Smash 6"
As someone who mainly focused on the single player and online battles, the lack of an Adventure Mode wasn’t that horrible to me, especially since when I wasn’t playing, watching the Subspace cutscenes on RUclips was a nice pastime.
3D Land, Smash 4 and Mario Kart 7 are similar in the way that they laid the foundation for what 3D World, Smash Ultimate and Mario Kart 8 would become, and because of that they are often seen as the black sheeps of their respective franchises
Anyone who thinks Mario Kart 7 is the black sheep is confusing 8 deluxe with the original release of 8. Mario Kart 7 atleast had agood driver roster. Mario Kart 8 wii u is the Fire Emblem Glup Shittos on steroids: 1/3 of thew Roster is just Koopalings most people don't care about playing as.
Same here, being able to easily play it competitively for years during college before full-time employment and other responsibilities took that away for good made Sm4sh really special for me.
It's the game that turned me into a die-hard Nintendo fan. Before that I didn't care about anything that wasn't Mario. It's also the game that convinced me to spend $2000 on plastic figurines.
Forgettable? The Smash game with some of the hypest newcomers is FORGETTABLE?? It actually having trophies and an actual All-Star Mode already makes it better than Ultimate lol EDIT: My bad, I meant All-Star Mode.
Doesn't Ultimate have a proper Classic Mode instead of a tournament mode or a "choose your own path" campaign? Plus, modeling every Spirit would make the dev time longer and we got fighters from Banjo Kazooie, Tekken, Kingdom Hearts, etc.
Yeah it The only major thing outside of character reveals a can name is Smash run And even then the game is severely limited bite the hardware What do you mean a proper classic mode? Ultimate had the best classic mode in the entire series no debate Also Trophies, in smash 4 Sucked seriously it was just reuse models and 2D art Work which was just lame
@@fletchking-teamdream7598 Yeah, my bad, I meant All-Star Mode, Classic Mode in Ultimate IS indeed better. And yeah, I know that Spirits were more practical but it still sucks.
7:30 and ironically, these trailers couldn’t even be watched in game. At least Brawl had a handful of the trailers as bonuses but it’s ironic that we’ll never get another proper Adventure Mode because of RUclips and yet RUclips is the only place where you can watch the replacements for it
30:55 Since the "selfie" era was in full swing, Nintendo and Square Enix should have went with Selphie Tilmitt from Final Fantasy VIII since a nunchuck user would gladly benefit the series, as there hasn't been any nunchuck users before. Not only that, the ban on nunchucks in Europe have been lifted since 2003, so it's not too late to have a nunchuck-fighting character in Smash.
Smash 4 literally made me play that game for so long because I liked that duck hunt duo joined the battle. It made me play as him for a long time and I enjoyed it.
Smash 64 is definitely worse, it’s literally just worse gameplay, less options, worse graphics, and a worse roster. They have the incredibly long hit stun but that’s about all that’s unique about it
However, it has L-canceling, so reducing the landing lag from aerial attacks is possible. Not to mention the gameplay is faster and still holds up today. I think Melee's is the best, though L-canceling isn't as instantaneous as the previous game. After that, L-canceling never came back.
I kinda wish custom moves came back. Not only would Mega Man and Palutena love that, but if Nintendo actually made those moves representative of the games they came from, it would make them even more diverse.
Custom moves are a stupid concept as a whole because it makes the game less skill based and requires a dumb strategy to do which is setting your game on for days and making your c stick or right stick move to the right for target smash
i really enjoyed smash 4 on wii u, i have so many fond memories....master and crazy orders were so much fun to me, its the game where i first learned of competitive smash and found my first true main, it was a fun time. Sure these games had some flaws but idk, I will always have fond memories of these games.
It is extremely misleading, very laggy (even laggier than tether grabs for crap sake), and the payoff you get from even landing it leaves a lot to be desired - no kill throws until well past bullying precents, not even Pac-Man's strongest throw, back throw, is even as strong as Mario's, and his down throw only has decent combo potential (not underwhelming, but not super reliable sometimes because of the aforementioned grab issue). As a PAC-MAN main myself, it hurts me saying all of this, but the bitter truth has to be said. By the way, all of this is a *100% intentional! It was made to be like this!*
@@GameWatch-xu6sb Falco was one of the most common competitive characters throughout the series... in Smash 4, complete opposite. ALSO, Jigglypuff, who was already one of the worst characters in Brawl, was ironically nerfed even FURTHER to be the absolute in SSB4. Without a doubt the WORST smash bros. in the game, nothing else to say about it.
I want to mention super smash bros for wii u was the first ever smash bros game I played so to me it’s one of the most nostalgic same with try wii u itself I have lots of nostalgia to it
The 3ds version was genuinely better because it had a fun little multilayer competition that took advantage of everyone having different devices. Smash run was great. I even played against cpus because it was that fun.
Smash 4’s new characters is when I got fully engrossed in specific characters’ backgrounds from various franchises I liked, whether I played theirs games or not, and became my mains ever since. While Greninja remains the most notable to me, there was Lucina, Shulk, Palutena, Bayo, Cloud, and even Corrin.
When the results of the Smash Ballot were first revealed with the subtext of "among realizable characters," my brain immediately went to the thought of how many people might've voted to put Shrek and Goku in Smash Bros. I know it's a big meme, but I would not be surprised if people were actually trying to get them in the game, be it as an elaborate joke or genuinely wishing for them. I didn't put much stock into the Ballot's results afterwards, only to be reminded of it again on that fateful year...
This is the best exclusive for the Wii U, one of the few games that actually lived up to its hype on the system. I know Ultimate is out now, and hindsight feels 20/20, but we shouldn't undermine everything this game stood for, and how much of it pioneered what Smash Bros is today
Yall, I don't think he's personally calling it "The Worst." Like, I don't think he thinks it's absolute garbage. Calm down. I think he's talking about it in a sense that a lot of the other games beat it out. Smash 64 started it all, so it's a classic. Melee took that to 11, and people are STILL playing that one! Brawl had an AMAZING story mode, one that LOTS of fans want a sequel too. For everything Smash 4 did, Ultimate just... did better. It brought back everyone. Had a new story mode (despite it not being subspace), SUPER creative classic modes, went even crazier with some of the reveals and character additions... Smash 4 did A LOT for the series! Hell, it was SUCH a long time coming, and it was GREAT to finally get new content again. I'm very grateful for everything it gave us. It just... Got improved on. And some of the past games just seem to have more charm. Tell me. You're given Smash 4 and Ultimate to play. Which do you choose?
@@3dsfan2002 Fair enough. I honestly really liked Smash Run too! Had a group of friends I could play it with on the regular back in high school. It's a shame it was just a 3ds exclusive.
Bayonetta was the perfect final character imo. The Wii U was such a failure commercially but was a great console with some amazing games. It was very fitting to get a character from a game actually on the Wii U (looking at you cloud) and who could represent for the era. It was also really cool for Nintendo to take a risk and branch out with a character from a mature title something that they hadn’t really done before. As someone who stuck by the Wii U as their only console during a time when everyone else was saying Nintendo was doomed, I think it was really rewarding to have such a bold and current character end off the new smash bros hype train.
I loved playing the Wii U version. Though I do agree that the 3DS version should have been called “Dimension” and the Wii U version should have been called “Universe”.
@@0_vues The trophies were awesome, I blame Japan's stupid ass ratings for why their cut. I like Sm4sh colors more, but prefer Ultimate graphics. Free Online, yeah I definitely agree with that, hell Sm4sh's online mode is better than Ultimates. Balance physics, nah I didn't like that low gravity while being launched. Overall you make great points.
Say what you will about smash 4, but it undoubtedly grew the fan base and made it more “mainstream” if you will. Also the graphics and aesthetics and character models of this game are the best in the series in my opinion. If it were up to me this would be about what every smash game would look like.
I'm still upset that Corrin's reveal basically turned the entirety of the Smash community against the Fire Emblem series, claiming they all play the same, even when Corrin is completely unique, and they completely disregard Robin when saying that. At least Sakurai didn't take it to heart, adding both Chrom and Byleth to the very next game (which i wasnt even allowed to celebrate cuz all my friends were too busy complaining that the last DLC fighter was more Fire Emblem). As a fan of the series myself, i'm always down for more. Just... please pick more than just the protagonists. Give me Hector, Nephenee, Tiki, Azura, Yunaka, anyone (not Alear tho, they suck).
They could also atleast add more than 1 Fighter from other Atlus IPS before adding even more Fire Emblem Glup Shittos. Theres 8 Fire Emblem Characters to 1 from Persona and 0 from Shin Megami Tensei in Ultimate.
“The little handheld (3DS) is not known for its power” Me: Bro! I will have to let you know that the 3DS supports backwards compatibility, introduced cinematic cutscenes for most of its games, and is still more colorful than the Switch during its time.
The 3DS wasn't very powerful, even for it's time, being only slightly stronger than the PSP (and only in some ways), despite releasing seven years later. But when compared to other Nintendo hardware, it could actually be seen as quite ambitious, with the glasses-free 3D, built-in microphone, built-in dual cameras, web browser, multimedia playback, app store, and StreetPass. Kinda funny the Switch has none of that. I think Nintendo saw how successful the Switch was right out the gate and just canceled any plans to update it to have the features of 3DS. I mean, it's selling well already, so why bother? Save a few bucks and buy another yacht.
@@SgtTankDempsey melee has It’s adventure mode, and the best trophy in the series Brawl has the subspace emissary Smash ultimate has the world of light and Spirits smash 4 has has has
@@apineapple3177Y'all keep meatriding Brawl because of Subspace but that's the thing. Subspace just ain't that fun. The only thing it has going for is the cutscenes. That's it. The mode itself is just a slog, and needless to say that Brawl's art style certainly has aged for the worse. Everything looks so dusty and dark. The fact that you have to stare at it the whole way through doesn't help. Don't even get me started on The Great Maze. What sick trick was that? Point being, Brawl is the only game in the series to do a story mode like that, so even though it ain't great, people treat it like the second coming.
I miss some things from Smash Bros. 4. I honestly miss custom specials. I hope they come back in the next Smash Bros. game. I also miss how for the reveal of some characters they'd get artists from other companies to do some art for the character. Like how they got an artist from Capcom to do some art for Mega Man. They got Tetsuya Nomura to do some art for Cloud. And they got Ken Sugimori to do some art for Greninja.
Even if it is the "worst" smash game, is probably the version I played the third most. Just having it on the go made me play it everywhere all the time
Crazy to hear anyone claiming this to be the "worst" game in this franchise, but despite it being my favorite of the entire series, it is impossible to call it that when 64 and Melee are right there. Even if someone doesn't like what Smash 4 has to offer at least it has different things to offer in it. The first two games in the series have such little content and they don't age super well. Smash 4 is still my favorite smash game and probably always will be, Brawl is second if anyone asks.
For me the worst is Brawl to this day. I wasnt a big fan of how they tried to make it PG Grimdark-lite or the pseudo realistic artstyle that aged horribly even in a few years back then due to how limited wii hardware was.
Smash 4 is probably THE game I have the most total playtime in, easily 2000-3000 hours (along with Monster Hunter Tri). Released during the prime time of my high school, me and my best pal went to my place just to play some Smash like AT LEAST once a week. And believe it or not - quite a lot of that time, we played Smash Tour. Whenever we were tired of being somewhat competitive, we just loved it's crazy randomness and got really invested in finding and keeping the characters we loved.
Smash 4 is not the worst at all, if anything it's the 2nd or 3rd best in the series. It's way above brawl and 64 and if u take off the nostalgia goggles then there's an argument for it to be better than melee too. It gave us some of the biggest and most unexpected moments in any smash game. The only game that rivals what it did and surpassed it is Ultimate.
"Little Mac, the first character to ever be promoted from Assist Trophy, to full-on fighter." I'm not gonna call him wrong, since _technically_ he's correct when he says Assist Trophy, but... Charizard _kinda_ beat him to the punch in terms of "assist turned fighter".
Agree, Smash 3DS truly should not be overlooked by everyone, it has one of the best single player content in a smash game only rivaled by my other favorite smash game Brawl.
I disagree I think it’s a great mod but it’s held back by one There is only one map 2 No online 3 You can’t interact with the players on the map and 4 I wish we got more interesting objectives at the end, rather than free-for-all usually being it It’s sold out it’s a great mode, and I wish they bring it back with half or more of what I brought up
@@apineapple3177 if they did add interacting with other players it would distract you by fight them and prevent you from fighting enemies, the whole point of the mode
@@3dsfan2002bad point If you just fight, somebody thought the Entire game you’re never gonna get to stats upgrades So yes, most of the time players would still do that stuff the reason I suggested it because it adds a level of strategy to it
Smash Bros 4 felt like underrated game for me i enjoyed it very much p.s I’m going to miss Charizard as a standalone character (without Pokemon Trainer) 9:36 🔥 🥺
Since ultimate look and feel pretty much like a better Smash4 in practically every ways (64, Melee & Brawl at had a unique look to them) and it’s on the WiiU (and not like many more hardcore players would take the 3DS version over one you can play on TV) there’s just pretty much little reason to go back. Smash4 isn’t bad, just that Ultimate is a better option in most way (similar to the original splatoon on the WiiU vs it sequels on the switch)
the worst part about custom moves is that you cant get specific moves for the fighter you're playing as, i wanted to get moves for pit but got moves for olimar instead..
I know saying this is the worst smash bros doesn't mean it's bad but Imo I think smash 64 is the worst or actually weakest one out of the series. Still enjoyed hearing out your point of view in the video. I liked it a bunch
Does anyone else remember that Smash Bros. 4 video where the guy and the little girl were playing Smash Bros. 4 at a gamestop and the little girl was playing as Diddy Kong and she was playing at a competitive level and kicking his ass? That video turned out to be fake but it's still funny. XD
DISCLAIMER: Calling it the "worst" doesn't mean it's bad - I just think pretty much every other Smash game ends up being better once the build up, release, and DLC all fade away.
But I'd also love to know your opinions! If you disagree that's okay :)
Yeah especially if it doesn’t have some characters like Snake, Wolf, Pokémon Trainer and Ice Climbers
In my opinion, It is definitely one of the weakest Smash Bros games, sure. but I still don't think it's bad, I still like the game despite its flaws and missing features, and I do still consider the game to be good. I just think there is no bad Smash game.
@@Aaronitmar I mentioned this in another comment but I think it’s worth repeating: Smash Bros. is a very special series where every instalment is great. It’s the finest example of quality over quantity.
@@dandretheshantaefan I 100% Agree 👍
@@YoshiTheeMiniPegasusYeah since Snake and Wolf were my two favorite characters from Braw then they later cut from smash4 and I think the reason why Wolf was cut is because of him being a low poly character because of his moveset and for Snake is probably due to copyright issues from Konami
I don't think Smash 3DS and Wii U are bad...just obsolete. Now they just feel like beta Smash Ultimate
Yeah I can tell that after getting ultimate
People just see smash 4 as
Mid
Its the Mario Kart 8 curse.
Yeah, i remember the game feeling more "alive" back then, nowadays it feels bland
@@rosalinamacarita01 please don’t compare this to 3ds/wii u era Mario, bland is an atrocious word to describe 4
@@JodaroKujo I rather play 4 than ultimate, smash run>world of trash
People really sleep on Smash Run. City Trial + Smash Bros is the best idea the franchise has ever had for a side mode, and I was so much more disappointed by the lack of Smash Run in Ultimate than I was a story mode. I want there to be an online version of Smash Run soo bad.
Especially with the enemy roster that could be expanded by Ultimate's roster, like adding Angels from Bayonetta, or bosses from Monster Hunter.
You're preaching to the choir, fellow Smash Runner. That's why I still play Smash for 3DS to this day; the mode is a diligent way to kill some time, if not anything more.
Wish that shit was online it would’ve been so good
Smash Run Online would go extremely hard.
Smash 4 can't be the worst when Smash 64 exists and has vastly less content even in the singleplayer department while also generally having less polish and features. Even then Smash 4 had the best online multiplayer (low bar but still) and I would still rather do casual local matches in Smash 4 than Melee. I also don't see how the game is "forgettable" at all because for one, playing with custom moves online with friends was an unforgettable experience.
I agree. I understand the restrictions of the Nintendo 64, but it doesn't make the game better. We should compare the game in a vacuum. Melee still holds up great today, but not 64.
@@Liggliluffalso you gotta remember smash 64 was the first game in the series there wasn’t that level of expectation with it. Like more recent smash games
@@gex_6920 I do know that, but if we're purely looking at them as they are, and not anything about why they are like they are
@@Shyguymask 64 is obviously the worst
Smash 64 is really fun, there's an actual reason to play it unlike smash 4 which is nowadays just ddowngraded ultimate. Smash 64 feels distinct enough for there to be more reason to play it over 4.
It ain’t the worst. It gave us Mega Man, Ryu from Streets, Smash on the toilet, Mii fighters, and Cloud.
And it gave us what is my opinion the best main theme in the series.
Smash on the toilet goes hard, helps when your constipated
I would rather play this than 64. But thag was so long ago, the bar ain't thag high. By no means is smash 4 bad, it's just nothing in comparison to literally every other entry.
@@sikosonix901 Smash 64 I think still deserves to be recognised as the one that started it all.
@benmalsky9834 definitely.
First Time I've ever disagreed with Aarontimar
lol same
That was my first Smash Bros game.
@@DanielAdams23-j5csame
It’s weird, Smash 4 always felt like it was so hype and just there at the same time. I feel like the Wii U era as a whole is kinda the reason why this game is seen in lesser regards. That being said, I still really enjoy it. The new characters and stages are great, and the core gameplay felt the most refined up to that point, and I’m so grateful it exists. However, at the end of the day, it does feel like this game walked so Ultimate could soar.
Why is everyone suddenly dunking on this game? ITS A GOOD GAME. STOP THIS SLANDER.
It's the least good of them all
@@padriazozzriaorizifian8672 Smash 64 and Brawl are both right there.
People are looking at smash 4 from different perspectives. The harshest opinions come from competitive players that can’t separate the rage mechanic, bayonetta, ladder combos, everything that people hate fighting against in this game. I’m a competitive player myself and dislike those parts of the game, but it doesn’t take a genius to realize smash 4 itself was an important game in the franchise, the additions that were new to that game are what made ultimate an amazing game.
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@@padriazozzriaorizifian8672 Smash 64 because it's the first, so it has the least content, the least polish, etc.
Why is this one the worse one when it was the one to laid the foundation to what Ultimate became and was praised for? If anything through process of elimination the worse Smash Bros game is the first one.
The first one put the foundations for literally all the next Smash games…
@@c0mpu73rguy Being the foundation for something great doesn't really make the foundation itself any better or worse. Smash 64 should be APPRECIATED, but saying it's better than Smash4 despite it's obvious shortcomings, just because it started things, feels silly.
@@awakenedcrowl Just saying, that argument is pretty weak. Since usually, previous games in a series are the foundations for the next ones.
@@c0mpu73rguy Well, yeah. So... what? Smash 64 is still it's own game. It still doesn't get better or worse by what came after it. As I said: It is to be RESPECTED for it's influence and achievements, which DID carry over into the next game. As a MILESTONE, it became greater. But the game itself didn't get any better or worse just for it being the predecessor to something greater
A big problem is that in some ways Ultimate is the same game but better
Plot twist: There is no "worst" smash game
I agree. It’s truly a “quality over quantity” series, which we should all be grateful for.
That’s what I think makes Smash Bros. so special. There is no “bad” entry, it’s just that each games builds upon the last.
There is no bad Smash game in Bang Sing Se.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 Are you making fun of me and my stance?
@@poweroffriendship2.0 Please tell me that’s a joke.
I am sick and freaking tired of people saying certain games suck just because their on Wii u.
And 3ds because both Pokemon and Mario games on 3ds get a lot of hates for stupid reasons
Because Ultimate came out in December 2018, Smash fans got really tired of using their Wii Us to play Smash during the first 2 years of Switch's lifespan.
“It’s not melee”
I actually prefer Smash Wii U's visuals over Ultimate's, the contrast was just so much better, and sure Ultimate looks better from a lighting standpoint but the way Wii U's colors just pop makes me yearn for an Ultimate mod that brings back this style.
Best Smash game 😊
I also prefer the colors over Ultimate as well
Yeah, me too.
Y'all really need to stop that Smaah 4 slander
@@NintendOscar13 we get it haters, brawl is getting more love, but that doesn’t mean 3ds/wii u are awful and the worst
Melee glaze in big 2024 is crazy
It’s sad.
If Super Smash Bros. 6 cuts half of the Fighters like the Internet is predicting, then Smash 6 will be the worst Smash Game for that reason alone. I’m sorry, I can’t fathom the Switch 2 having hardware limitations.
Or smash 6 has better modes and fan ultimate and brings back all characters with adding new ones, ultimate will be the worst
Yeah, I agree. I pray that the next Smash game keeps Ultimate's fighter roster and all its stages, and also hoping for the 15 stages that were excluded, and brand new characters and stages.
Smash 6 will have roughly the same amount of characters as Brawl. So expect TONS of cuts. The entire roster will consist of Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, and Fire Emblem characters. Everyone else is gone, aside from DLC.
That wouldn’t be horrible though, a lot of the characters are echo fighters and/or have uninspiring movesets. Ultimate has everyone to choose from but when you get down to it it’s nothing special
@@N.i.E.M.O You crazy
I honestly didn't think the Wii U one was that bad, I had it and thought that it was actually pretty fun
Yeah, out of smash for 3DS and Wii U, the Wii U version is my favorite.😊
Sakurai regretted putting Bayonetta in. I still remember his reaction when he realised she still had an unfair advantage over everyone else in Ultimate's first build.
If he felt that way then, why does he feel about STEVE?
Smash 64 is the worst one based on lack of content and characters. It's okay to say that the first game of a series is the worst when the sequels are way better, sequels are supposed to be better.
I agree,I really respect smash 64 for being the foundation, the beginning of the amazing series, but that does not make it automatically better than any of the sequels because they're just better in every way.
I still remember the days of checking the Smash 4 website everyday for new characters. Memories...
(12:00) Amiibos didn't learn a thing. It gains a value and increases in CPU level, and starts cheating. They're just a cheating CPU, not a good trained AI.
I always thought that SSB4 was the black sheep of the Smash Bros franchise. Mostly because it was divided between two consoles and there was hardly an Adventure Mode in the WiiU.
Not 3ds
Given the title of the video and its thumbnail, I was prepared to get defensive over Smash 4, Aaronitmar. After watching the video in full and reading your pinned message, I can respect your thoughts.
Smash 4 was, is, and always will be my favorite Smash game. Even so, I see where the limitations of 3DS or the lack of direction in Wii U hold it back. For me, any weakness mentioned in the video is made up in some other ways.
Don't worry; I don't suddenly hate you. Your Costume Origins of Smash 4 got me into your channel. Incidentally, I find the alts in this game to be my favorites across the series.
It's basically an "agree to disagree" situation. Good video.
well yeah you're entitled to your wrong opinion
Glad I'm not the only one that thinks Smash 4 is their favorite
Tbh Mr. Game and Watch and my main Olimar both destroy the "this character wouldn't work for a fighting game" yapping that people initially had for Villager and Wii Fit Trainer.
Mr. Game and Watch made things like catch oil in a bucket, walk over sea turtles and flip food in its frying pan. And Olimar could literally only throw pikmin (and punch but like he can't even jump) so it's silly to think that to this day people would be like "Nooo Captain Toad wouldn't work for Smash 6"
As someone who mainly focused on the single player and online battles, the lack of an Adventure Mode wasn’t that horrible to me, especially since when I wasn’t playing, watching the Subspace cutscenes on RUclips was a nice pastime.
Now this take is just…bad lmao
lol true
I miss the old day when smash 4 was default game before Ultimate. Now it one with smash tour and no online anymore.
3D Land, Smash 4 and Mario Kart 7 are similar in the way that they laid the foundation for what 3D World, Smash Ultimate and Mario Kart 8 would become, and because of that they are often seen as the black sheeps of their respective franchises
@@supertomdeluxe6676 and their 3ds games too 😕
Anyone who thinks Mario Kart 7 is the black sheep is confusing 8 deluxe with the original release of 8.
Mario Kart 7 atleast had agood driver roster. Mario Kart 8 wii u is the Fire Emblem Glup Shittos on steroids: 1/3 of thew Roster is just Koopalings most people don't care about playing as.
To me, it’s my second favorite and I don’t think it’s even close to being the worst (In my opinion)
Smash 4 will always be my most fondly remembered game
Same here, being able to easily play it competitively for years during college before full-time employment and other responsibilities took that away for good made Sm4sh really special for me.
It's the game that turned me into a die-hard Nintendo fan. Before that I didn't care about anything that wasn't Mario. It's also the game that convinced me to spend $2000 on plastic figurines.
Brawl for me
Forgettable?
The Smash game with some of the hypest newcomers is FORGETTABLE??
It actually having trophies and an actual All-Star Mode already makes it better than Ultimate lol
EDIT: My bad, I meant All-Star Mode.
And yet some people doesn't like like them for various reasons but mostly because it's different or not perfected enough.
Doesn't Ultimate have a proper Classic Mode instead of a tournament mode or a "choose your own path" campaign? Plus, modeling every Spirit would make the dev time longer and we got fighters from Banjo Kazooie, Tekken, Kingdom Hearts, etc.
Some people are very ungrateful smh
Yeah it The only major thing outside of character reveals a can name is Smash run And even then the game is severely limited bite the hardware What do you mean a proper classic mode? Ultimate had the best classic mode in the entire series no debate Also Trophies, in smash 4 Sucked seriously it was just reuse models and 2D art Work which was just lame
@@fletchking-teamdream7598 Yeah, my bad, I meant All-Star Mode, Classic Mode in Ultimate IS indeed better.
And yeah, I know that Spirits were more practical but it still sucks.
7:30 and ironically, these trailers couldn’t even be watched in game. At least Brawl had a handful of the trailers as bonuses but it’s ironic that we’ll never get another proper Adventure Mode because of RUclips and yet RUclips is the only place where you can watch the replacements for it
Yeah you could, on wii u atleast
Things get leaked. Sakurai has to accept that, we need a new Subspace and not a World of Light.
30:55 Since the "selfie" era was in full swing, Nintendo and Square Enix should have went with Selphie Tilmitt from Final Fantasy VIII since a nunchuck user would gladly benefit the series, as there hasn't been any nunchuck users before. Not only that, the ban on nunchucks in Europe have been lifted since 2003, so it's not too late to have a nunchuck-fighting character in Smash.
Smash 4 literally made me play that game for so long because I liked that duck hunt duo joined the battle. It made me play as him for a long time and I enjoyed it.
Smash 64 is definitely worse, it’s literally just worse gameplay, less options, worse graphics, and a worse roster. They have the incredibly long hit stun but that’s about all that’s unique about it
However, it has L-canceling, so reducing the landing lag from aerial attacks is possible. Not to mention the gameplay is faster and still holds up today. I think Melee's is the best, though L-canceling isn't as instantaneous as the previous game. After that, L-canceling never came back.
I kinda wish custom moves came back. Not only would Mega Man and Palutena love that, but if Nintendo actually made those moves representative of the games they came from, it would make them even more diverse.
Custom moves are a stupid concept as a whole because it makes the game less skill based and requires a dumb strategy to do which is setting your game on for days and making your c stick or right stick move to the right for target smash
i really enjoyed smash 4 on wii u, i have so many fond memories....master and crazy orders were so much fun to me, its the game where i first learned of competitive smash and found my first true main, it was a fun time. Sure these games had some flaws but idk, I will always have fond memories of these games.
EVERY Super Smash Bros. game is great. Seriously, it’s a rare instance where every entry is solid.
Let's never forget... Smash 4 is a game where Pac-Man's grab exists.
It is extremely misleading, very laggy (even laggier than tether grabs for crap sake), and the payoff you get from even landing it leaves a lot to be desired - no kill throws until well past bullying precents, not even Pac-Man's strongest throw, back throw, is even as strong as Mario's, and his down throw only has decent combo potential (not underwhelming, but not super reliable sometimes because of the aforementioned grab issue). As a PAC-MAN main myself, it hurts me saying all of this, but the bitter truth has to be said.
By the way, all of this is a *100% intentional! It was made to be like this!*
@@MickMick247-Soundtrack Plus, Smash 4 is where nerfs are at their highest point here. JUST LOOK AT HOW THEY MASSACRED FALCO!
@@GameWatch-xu6sb Falco was one of the most common competitive characters throughout the series... in Smash 4, complete opposite. ALSO, Jigglypuff, who was already one of the worst characters in Brawl, was ironically nerfed even FURTHER to be the absolute in SSB4.
Without a doubt the WORST smash bros. in the game, nothing else to say about it.
@@MickMick247-Soundtrack ''sigh'' The game balance in Smash 4 is so rigged...
I want to mention super smash bros for wii u was the first ever smash bros game I played so to me it’s one of the most nostalgic same with try wii u itself I have lots of nostalgia to it
The 3ds version was genuinely better because it had a fun little multilayer competition that took advantage of everyone having different devices. Smash run was great. I even played against cpus because it was that fun.
“It’s a short list.”
Makes a 35 minute video on a few smash games.
Smash 4’s new characters is when I got fully engrossed in specific characters’ backgrounds from various franchises I liked, whether I played theirs games or not, and became my mains ever since. While Greninja remains the most notable to me, there was Lucina, Shulk, Palutena, Bayo, Cloud, and even Corrin.
When the results of the Smash Ballot were first revealed with the subtext of "among realizable characters," my brain immediately went to the thought of how many people might've voted to put Shrek and Goku in Smash Bros. I know it's a big meme, but I would not be surprised if people were actually trying to get them in the game, be it as an elaborate joke or genuinely wishing for them.
I didn't put much stock into the Ballot's results afterwards, only to be reminded of it again on that fateful year...
Personally I have Wii U/3dd in 3rd. Why? Mostly because it was a good part of my childhood.
Custom moves should have been in every smash game
Smash on the toilet goes hard, helps when your constipated
This is the best exclusive for the Wii U, one of the few games that actually lived up to its hype on the system. I know Ultimate is out now, and hindsight feels 20/20, but we shouldn't undermine everything this game stood for, and how much of it pioneered what Smash Bros is today
Yall, I don't think he's personally calling it "The Worst." Like, I don't think he thinks it's absolute garbage. Calm down. I think he's talking about it in a sense that a lot of the other games beat it out. Smash 64 started it all, so it's a classic. Melee took that to 11, and people are STILL playing that one! Brawl had an AMAZING story mode, one that LOTS of fans want a sequel too. For everything Smash 4 did, Ultimate just... did better. It brought back everyone. Had a new story mode (despite it not being subspace), SUPER creative classic modes, went even crazier with some of the reveals and character additions...
Smash 4 did A LOT for the series! Hell, it was SUCH a long time coming, and it was GREAT to finally get new content again. I'm very grateful for everything it gave us. It just... Got improved on. And some of the past games just seem to have more charm.
Tell me. You're given Smash 4 and Ultimate to play. Which do you choose?
Smash 4 because of smash run, especially when smash 6 comes out
@@3dsfan2002 Fair enough. I honestly really liked Smash Run too! Had a group of friends I could play it with on the regular back in high school. It's a shame it was just a 3ds exclusive.
Ultimate easy the single player contact is way better smash 4 Has the worst single player Outside of 64
@@apineapple3177 world of light is lazy trash
@@3dsfan2002 Them smash four is even worse
I would've rioted if he said that Brawl was the worst smash game
27:53 How did you find my fighter ballot vote form when I was like 10?!
I now want a dedicated video about Aaronitmar yapping about solely custom moves
Bayonetta was the perfect final character imo.
The Wii U was such a failure commercially but was a great console with some amazing games. It was very fitting to get a character from a game actually on the Wii U (looking at you cloud) and who could represent for the era. It was also really cool for Nintendo to take a risk and branch out with a character from a mature title something that they hadn’t really done before. As someone who stuck by the Wii U as their only console during a time when everyone else was saying Nintendo was doomed, I think it was really rewarding to have such a bold and current character end off the new smash bros hype train.
I loved playing the Wii U version.
Though I do agree that the 3DS version should have been called “Dimension” and the Wii U version should have been called “Universe”.
Literally a better game than ultimate
Explain
@jeremiahhester6408 trophees, graphics, free online, more balanced physics
@@0_vues The trophies were awesome, I blame Japan's stupid ass ratings for why their cut. I like Sm4sh colors more, but prefer Ultimate graphics. Free Online, yeah I definitely agree with that, hell Sm4sh's online mode is better than Ultimates. Balance physics, nah I didn't like that low gravity while being launched.
Overall you make great points.
@@jeremiahhester6408 for the physics I meant that it's more balanced in the way that you can play with some casuals players and still have fun
@@0_vues Oh I understand. You don't get that with Ultimate?
Smash fans on their way to immediately trash on the Smash game that came before
Say what you will about smash 4, but it undoubtedly grew the fan base and made it more “mainstream” if you will. Also the graphics and aesthetics and character models of this game are the best in the series in my opinion. If it were up to me this would be about what every smash game would look like.
I'm still upset that Corrin's reveal basically turned the entirety of the Smash community against the Fire Emblem series, claiming they all play the same, even when Corrin is completely unique, and they completely disregard Robin when saying that. At least Sakurai didn't take it to heart, adding both Chrom and Byleth to the very next game (which i wasnt even allowed to celebrate cuz all my friends were too busy complaining that the last DLC fighter was more Fire Emblem). As a fan of the series myself, i'm always down for more. Just... please pick more than just the protagonists. Give me Hector, Nephenee, Tiki, Azura, Yunaka, anyone (not Alear tho, they suck).
They could also atleast add more than 1 Fighter from other Atlus IPS before adding even more Fire Emblem Glup Shittos.
Theres 8 Fire Emblem Characters to 1 from Persona and 0 from Shin Megami Tensei in Ultimate.
“The little handheld (3DS) is not known for its power”
Me: Bro! I will have to let you know that the 3DS supports backwards compatibility, introduced cinematic cutscenes for most of its games, and is still more colorful than the Switch during its time.
The 3DS wasn't very powerful, even for it's time, being only slightly stronger than the PSP (and only in some ways), despite releasing seven years later. But when compared to other Nintendo hardware, it could actually be seen as quite ambitious, with the glasses-free 3D, built-in microphone, built-in dual cameras, web browser, multimedia playback, app store, and StreetPass. Kinda funny the Switch has none of that. I think Nintendo saw how successful the Switch was right out the gate and just canceled any plans to update it to have the features of 3DS. I mean, it's selling well already, so why bother? Save a few bucks and buy another yacht.
The fact that people are trying to say it's worse than Brawl is crazy
Because it’s True, there is legit no reason to return to smash 4
@@apineapple3177 There is no legit reason to return to the other games
@@SgtTankDempsey melee has It’s adventure mode, and the best trophy in the series Brawl has the subspace emissary Smash ultimate has the world of light and Spirits smash 4 has has has
@@apineapple3177Y'all keep meatriding Brawl because of Subspace but that's the thing. Subspace just ain't that fun. The only thing it has going for is the cutscenes. That's it. The mode itself is just a slog, and needless to say that Brawl's art style certainly has aged for the worse. Everything looks so dusty and dark. The fact that you have to stare at it the whole way through doesn't help. Don't even get me started on The Great Maze. What sick trick was that? Point being, Brawl is the only game in the series to do a story mode like that, so even though it ain't great, people treat it like the second coming.
@@bloodmuzzleI 100% agree
I can't believe this game's already a decade old, I still remember it like it was only 5-6 years ago! I feel old because of how fast time flies... 😅
I miss some things from Smash Bros. 4. I honestly miss custom specials. I hope they come back in the next Smash Bros. game. I also miss how for the reveal of some characters they'd get artists from other companies to do some art for the character. Like how they got an artist from Capcom to do some art for Mega Man. They got Tetsuya Nomura to do some art for Cloud. And they got Ken Sugimori to do some art for Greninja.
Even if it is the "worst" smash game, is probably the version I played the third most. Just having it on the go made me play it everywhere all the time
Crazy to hear anyone claiming this to be the "worst" game in this franchise, but despite it being my favorite of the entire series, it is impossible to call it that when 64 and Melee are right there. Even if someone doesn't like what Smash 4 has to offer at least it has different things to offer in it. The first two games in the series have such little content and they don't age super well. Smash 4 is still my favorite smash game and probably always will be, Brawl is second if anyone asks.
For me the worst is Brawl to this day. I wasnt a big fan of how they tried to make it PG Grimdark-lite or the pseudo realistic artstyle that aged horribly even in a few years back then due to how limited wii hardware was.
34:18 “really frustrating”
local man has never actually played a match of smash…
Also Waluigi Fan and A Wii U Kid here.
#Waluigi4Smash6
This is what I think the cool kids would call a "Hot Take", & not the good kind either ☹️
I actually had a lot of fun posting pictures of my miis Hank Hill and Tai from Digimon miis pictures on Miiverse with this game.
Smash 4 is probably THE game I have the most total playtime in, easily 2000-3000 hours (along with Monster Hunter Tri). Released during the prime time of my high school, me and my best pal went to my place just to play some Smash like AT LEAST once a week. And believe it or not - quite a lot of that time, we played Smash Tour. Whenever we were tired of being somewhat competitive, we just loved it's crazy randomness and got really invested in finding and keeping the characters we loved.
Also Aaronitmar is the First RUclipsr I started to Consistently Watch!
Imagine saying this when you have Melee and 64
I GREW UP WITH THIS GAME DONT COOK
Smash for the 3ds is far from forgettable, I grew up with it. Smash 4 also introduced cloud and bayonetta
If Bayonetta is number 1 in Europe than she should be in
Personally, I think Brawl is too slow for me to play. Wii U/3DS is my favorite, but that’s mostly because that’s the first one I played
Then you should seriously consider a career change!
@@JohnWaterman-q3vno, because I agree with him
@@3dsfan2002 I’m finally rich
love the scott the woz line stealing
Smash 4 is not the worst at all, if anything it's the 2nd or 3rd best in the series. It's way above brawl and 64 and if u take off the nostalgia goggles then there's an argument for it to be better than melee too. It gave us some of the biggest and most unexpected moments in any smash game. The only game that rivals what it did and surpassed it is Ultimate.
Brawl was only liked because of the story mode, that was it
At least those games had trophies unlike Ultimate. And it was fun unlocking custom moves.
People just be hating the Wii U
34:55 What is this track called, I’ve literally been searching for years, pls someone help
All-Star Rest - Super Smash Bros. For Wii U and 3DS
At least the online was free, that makes it better than Ultimate.
2:52 “yes Rico, K A B O M”
who the hell thinks melee is better than ultimate?
0:34 that pikachu logo was to derpy😂
I think Melee is the worst. Don’t give that title to Wii U.
According to RUclips, you're my favorite gaming content creator.
"Little Mac, the first character to ever be promoted from Assist Trophy, to full-on fighter."
I'm not gonna call him wrong, since _technically_ he's correct when he says Assist Trophy, but... Charizard _kinda_ beat him to the punch in terms of "assist turned fighter".
0:03 how did the Nickelodeon lightbulb logo start playing
SMASH 3DS IS FIRE I LOVED THE SINGLEPLAYER MODE
Agree, Smash 3DS truly should not be overlooked by everyone, it has one of the best single player content in a smash game only rivaled by my other favorite smash game Brawl.
9:06 he looks like he’s about to put dirt in your eye
Smash run is the second best game mode in the entire series, so for me, smash 3DS is definitly not the worst
I disagree I think it’s a great mod but it’s held back by one There is only one map 2 No online 3 You can’t interact with the players on the map and 4 I wish we got more interesting objectives at the end, rather than free-for-all usually being it It’s sold out it’s a great mode, and I wish they bring it back with half or more of what I brought up
@@apineapple3177 if they did add interacting with other players it would distract you by fight them and prevent you from fighting enemies, the whole point of the mode
@@3dsfan2002bad point If you just fight, somebody thought the Entire game you’re never gonna get to stats upgrades So yes, most of the time players would still do that stuff the reason I suggested it because it adds a level of strategy to it
@@apineapple3177 the whole point of that mode is to fight enemies, did you hit your head or something!!!!
@ You’re forgetting the fact it’s a multiplayer party mode Adding a level up strategy like this would make multiplayer a lot better
Smash Bros 4 felt like underrated game for me i enjoyed it very much p.s I’m going to miss Charizard as a standalone character (without Pokemon Trainer) 9:36 🔥 🥺
The people yearn for rock smash
Since ultimate look and feel pretty much like a better Smash4 in practically every ways (64, Melee & Brawl at had a unique look to them) and it’s on the WiiU (and not like many more hardcore players would take the 3DS version over one you can play on TV) there’s just pretty much little reason to go back. Smash4 isn’t bad, just that Ultimate is a better option in most way (similar to the original splatoon on the WiiU vs it sequels on the switch)
Same Problem with Mario Kart 8.
Though atleast Smash 4 had a mostly good roster.
@ but 8 deluxe is literally a enhanced version of regular 8
the worst part about custom moves is that you cant get specific moves for the fighter you're playing as, i wanted to get moves for pit but got moves for olimar instead..
Why does it feel like most of the new fighters are only here to promote the new Fire Emblem games?
Honestly I see this as a really bad take but that's just my opinion.
I'd still play them over Smash 64.
I’m the opposite.
I know saying this is the worst smash bros doesn't mean it's bad but Imo I think smash 64 is the worst or actually weakest one out of the series. Still enjoyed hearing out your point of view in the video. I liked it a bunch
Does anyone else remember that Smash Bros. 4 video where the guy and the little girl were playing Smash Bros. 4 at a gamestop and the little girl was playing as Diddy Kong and she was playing at a competitive level and kicking his ass? That video turned out to be fake but it's still funny. XD
Hot take but I think melee is hot garbage.
Hot take smash 4(3ds) is top 3 best
wait if bandi made a smash game they could of added 2 of my fav series into one like i made one of my favorites as my current pfp