DISCLAIMER: Calling it the "worst" doesn't mean it's bad - I just think pretty much every other Smash game ends up being better once the build up, release, and DLC all fade away. But I'd also love to know your opinions! If you disagree that's okay :)
In my opinion, It is definitely one of the weakest Smash Bros games, sure. but I still don't think it's bad, I still like the game despite its flaws and missing features, and I do still consider the game to be good. I just think there is no bad Smash game.
@@Aaronitmar I mentioned this in another comment but I think it’s worth repeating: Smash Bros. is a very special series where every instalment is great. It’s the finest example of quality over quantity.
@@YoshiTheeMiniPegasusYeah since Snake and Wolf were my two favorite characters from Braw then they later cut from smash4 and I think the reason why Wolf was cut is because of him being a low poly character because of his moveset and for Snake is probably due to copyright issues from Konami
People really sleep on Smash Run. City Trial + Smash Bros is the best idea the franchise has ever had for a side mode, and I was so much more disappointed by the lack of Smash Run in Ultimate than I was a story mode. I want there to be an online version of Smash Run soo bad. Especially with the enemy roster that could be expanded by Ultimate's roster, like adding Angels from Bayonetta, or bosses from Monster Hunter.
You're preaching to the choir, fellow Smash Runner. That's why I still play Smash for 3DS to this day; the mode is a diligent way to kill some time, if not anything more.
Smash 4 can't be the worst when Smash 64 exists and has vastly less content even in the singleplayer department while also generally having less polish and features. Even then Smash 4 had the best online multiplayer (low bar but still) and I would still rather do casual local matches in Smash 4 than Melee. I also don't see how the game is "forgettable" at all because for one, playing with custom moves online with friends was an unforgettable experience.
I agree. I understand the restrictions of the Nintendo 64, but it doesn't make the game better. We should compare the game in a vacuum. Melee still holds up great today, but not 64.
@@Liggliluffalso you gotta remember smash 64 was the first game in the series there wasn’t that level of expectation with it. Like more recent smash games
Smash 64 is really fun, there's an actual reason to play it unlike smash 4 which is nowadays just ddowngraded ultimate. Smash 64 feels distinct enough for there to be more reason to play it over 4.
I would rather play this than 64. But thag was so long ago, the bar ain't thag high. By no means is smash 4 bad, it's just nothing in comparison to literally every other entry.
Why is this one the worse one when it was the one to laid the foundation to what Ultimate became and was praised for? If anything through process of elimination the worse Smash Bros game is the first one.
@@c0mpu73rguy Being the foundation for something great doesn't really make the foundation itself any better or worse. Smash 64 should be APPRECIATED, but saying it's better than Smash4 despite it's obvious shortcomings, just because it started things, feels silly.
@@c0mpu73rguy Well, yeah. So... what? Smash 64 is still it's own game. It still doesn't get better or worse by what came after it. As I said: It is to be RESPECTED for it's influence and achievements, which DID carry over into the next game. As a MILESTONE, it became greater. But the game itself didn't get any better or worse just for it being the predecessor to something greater
People are looking at smash 4 from different perspectives. The harshest opinions come from competitive players that can’t separate the rage mechanic, bayonetta, ladder combos, everything that people hate fighting against in this game. I’m a competitive player myself and dislike those parts of the game, but it doesn’t take a genius to realize smash 4 itself was an important game in the franchise, the additions that were new to that game are what made ultimate an amazing game.
Smash 64 is definitely worse, it’s literally just worse gameplay, less options, worse graphics, and a worse roster. They have the incredibly long hit stun but that’s about all that’s unique about it
However, it has L-canceling, so reducing the landing lag from aerial attacks is possible. Not to mention the gameplay is faster and still holds up today. I think Melee's is the best, though L-canceling isn't as instantaneous as the previous game. After that, L-canceling never came back.
Given the title of the video and its thumbnail, I was prepared to get defensive over Smash 4, Aaronitmar. After watching the video in full and reading your pinned message, I can respect your thoughts. Smash 4 was, is, and always will be my favorite Smash game. Even so, I see where the limitations of 3DS or the lack of direction in Wii U hold it back. For me, any weakness mentioned in the video is made up in some other ways. Don't worry; I don't suddenly hate you. Your Costume Origins of Smash 4 got me into your channel. Incidentally, I find the alts in this game to be my favorites across the series. It's basically an "agree to disagree" situation. Good video.
It’s weird, Smash 4 always felt like it was so hype and just there at the same time. I feel like the Wii U era as a whole is kinda the reason why this game is seen in lesser regards. That being said, I still really enjoy it. The new characters and stages are great, and the core gameplay felt the most refined up to that point, and I’m so grateful it exists. However, at the end of the day, it does feel like this game walked so Ultimate could soar.
Because Ultimate came out in December 2018, Smash fans got really tired of using their Wii Us to play Smash during the first 2 years of Switch's lifespan.
I actually prefer Smash Wii U's visuals over Ultimate's, the contrast was just so much better, and sure Ultimate looks better from a lighting standpoint but the way Wii U's colors just pop makes me yearn for an Ultimate mod that brings back this style.
I always thought that SSB4 was the black sheep of the Smash Bros franchise. Mostly because it was divided between two consoles and there was hardly an Adventure Mode in the WiiU.
I kinda wish custom moves came back. Not only would Mega Man and Palutena love that, but if Nintendo actually made those moves representative of the games they came from, it would make them even more diverse.
Tbh Mr. Game and Watch and my main Olimar both destroy the "this character wouldn't work for a fighting game" yapping that people initially had for Villager and Wii Fit Trainer. Mr. Game and Watch made things like catch oil in a bucket, walk over sea turtles and flip food in its frying pan. And Olimar could literally only throw pikmin (and punch but like he can't even jump) so it's silly to think that to this day people would be like "Nooo Captain Toad wouldn't work for Smash 6"
3D Land, Smash 4 and Mario Kart 7 are similar in the way that they laid the foundation for what 3D World, Smash Ultimate and Mario Kart 8 would become, and because of that they are often seen as the black sheeps of their respective franchises
Anyone who thinks Mario Kart 7 is the black sheep is confusing 8 deluxe with the original release of 8. Mario Kart 7 atleast had agood driver roster. Mario Kart 8 wii u is the Fire Emblem Glup Shittos on steroids: 1/3 of thew Roster is just Koopalings most people don't care about playing as.
If Super Smash Bros. 6 cuts half of the Fighters like the Internet is predicting, then Smash 6 will be the worst Smash Game for that reason alone. I’m sorry, I can’t fathom the Switch 2 having hardware limitations.
Yeah, I agree. I pray that the next Smash game keeps Ultimate's fighter roster and all its stages, and also hoping for the 15 stages that were excluded, and brand new characters and stages.
Smash 6 will have roughly the same amount of characters as Brawl. So expect TONS of cuts. The entire roster will consist of Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, and Fire Emblem characters. Everyone else is gone, aside from DLC.
That wouldn’t be horrible though, a lot of the characters are echo fighters and/or have uninspiring movesets. Ultimate has everyone to choose from but when you get down to it it’s nothing special
Forgettable? The Smash game with some of the hypest newcomers is FORGETTABLE?? It actually having trophies and an actual All-Star Mode already makes it better than Ultimate lol EDIT: My bad, I meant All-Star Mode.
Doesn't Ultimate have a proper Classic Mode instead of a tournament mode or a "choose your own path" campaign? Plus, modeling every Spirit would make the dev time longer and we got fighters from Banjo Kazooie, Tekken, Kingdom Hearts, etc.
Yeah it The only major thing outside of character reveals a can name is Smash run And even then the game is severely limited bite the hardware What do you mean a proper classic mode? Ultimate had the best classic mode in the entire series no debate Also Trophies, in smash 4 Sucked seriously it was just reuse models and 2D art Work which was just lame
@@fletchking-teamdream7598 Yeah, my bad, I meant All-Star Mode, Classic Mode in Ultimate IS indeed better. And yeah, I know that Spirits were more practical but it still sucks.
(12:00) Amiibos didn't learn a thing. It gains a value and increases in CPU level, and starts cheating. They're just a cheating CPU, not a good trained AI.
Smash 4 is not the worst at all, if anything it's the 2nd or 3rd best in the series. It's way above brawl and 64 and if u take off the nostalgia goggles then there's an argument for it to be better than melee too. It gave us some of the biggest and most unexpected moments in any smash game. The only game that rivals what it did and surpassed it is Ultimate.
As someone who mainly focused on the single player and online battles, the lack of an Adventure Mode wasn’t that horrible to me, especially since when I wasn’t playing, watching the Subspace cutscenes on RUclips was a nice pastime.
Same here, being able to easily play it competitively for years during college before full-time employment and other responsibilities took that away for good made Sm4sh really special for me.
It's the game that turned me into a die-hard Nintendo fan. Before that I didn't care about anything that wasn't Mario. It's also the game that convinced me to spend $2000 on plastic figurines.
It is extremely misleading, very laggy (even laggier than tether grabs for crap sake), and the payoff you get from even landing it leaves a lot to be desired - no kill throws until well past bullying precents, not even Pac-Man's strongest throw, back throw, is even as strong as Mario's, and his down throw only has decent combo potential (not underwhelming, but not super reliable sometimes because of the aforementioned grab issue). As a PAC-MAN main myself, it hurts me saying all of this, but the bitter truth has to be said. By the way, all of this is a *100% intentional! It was made to be like this!*
@@GameWatch-xu6sb Falco was one of the most common competitive characters throughout the series... in Smash 4, complete opposite. ALSO, Jigglypuff, who was already one of the worst characters in Brawl, was ironically nerfed even FURTHER to be the absolute in SSB4. Without a doubt the WORST smash bros. in the game, nothing else to say about it.
i really enjoyed smash 4 on wii u, i have so many fond memories....master and crazy orders were so much fun to me, its the game where i first learned of competitive smash and found my first true main, it was a fun time. Sure these games had some flaws but idk, I will always have fond memories of these games.
Here's how I'd rank the Smash series, personally 1.) Super Smash Bros Brawl 2.) Super Smash Bros Melee 3.) Super Smash Bros Ultimate 4.) Super Smash Bros for 3DS 5.) Super Smash Bros for 64 6.) Super Smash Bros for Wii U If you ask me, the biggest problem with Smash Wii U is that it doesn't have a game mode that justifies coming back to that one game in particular. And when looking at the new modes, all of them are either overcomplicated or just feel like Special Smash with extra steps.
@aclstudios First of, I was born at the turn of the millennium. 2001 to be specific. But nostalgia aside, here are my reasons as to why Brawl is my favorite Smash game. The first is that Subspace Emissary is the coolest Smash mode, bar none. Probably a cold take, but it's still worth mentioning, as it's a huge plus for me. The second is the roster. Over the years since Ultimate came out, I've noticed that game's roster has a noticeable amount of fat attached to it. I do appreciate every single character returning, but there are a few that I won't miss in the next game. Imo, Brawl might have the strongest roster, especially with all of the new additions feeling like characters who were always meant to be there and are here to stay. The third is the little things. The soundtrack is great, the Sticker and Trophy Gallery themes in particular are therapeutic to listen to. And as much people like to dunk on it, I like the art style. It really gives Brawl it's own identity that makes it stand out from the other games, not to mention it completely fits the tone of Subspace Emissary. And in general, I just really like vibe of the entire game. It's cool.
I think you should switch between wii u and 64, not that I'm trying to disrespect the game that started it all but objectively is really lacking in content by today's standards.
@Ademhadji653 If you ask me, all of Smash Wii U's problems are made worse by the build-up to its release, and it coming out after Melee and Brawl, games that really set expectations as to what we should expect from a Smash game. I'll be honest. As someone who's been on the hype train since E3 2013 all the way to release, this is the most disappointing game I've ever played. I guess it's true what they say. Expectation is the mother of disappointment.
Say what you will about smash 4, but it undoubtedly grew the fan base and made it more “mainstream” if you will. Also the graphics and aesthetics and character models of this game are the best in the series in my opinion. If it were up to me this would be about what every smash game would look like.
Yall, I don't think he's personally calling it "The Worst." Like, I don't think he thinks it's absolute garbage. Calm down. I think he's talking about it in a sense that a lot of the other games beat it out. Smash 64 started it all, so it's a classic. Melee took that to 11, and people are STILL playing that one! Brawl had an AMAZING story mode, one that LOTS of fans want a sequel too. For everything Smash 4 did, Ultimate just... did better. It brought back everyone. Had a new story mode (despite it not being subspace), SUPER creative classic modes, went even crazier with some of the reveals and character additions... Smash 4 did A LOT for the series! Hell, it was SUCH a long time coming, and it was GREAT to finally get new content again. I'm very grateful for everything it gave us. It just... Got improved on. And some of the past games just seem to have more charm. Tell me. You're given Smash 4 and Ultimate to play. Which do you choose?
@@3dsfan2002 Fair enough. I honestly really liked Smash Run too! Had a group of friends I could play it with on the regular back in high school. It's a shame it was just a 3ds exclusive.
Sakurai regretted putting Bayonetta in. I still remember his reaction when he realised she still had an unfair advantage over everyone else in Ultimate's first build.
This drop 8 players smash a massive blow to parties And 2 incredible prototype of a Mario Party and A moba with tour and run The customs way better than Ultimate Ultimate is the worse Smash, the only one that bring 0 inovation killed by a bad fan service
Smash 4’s new characters is when I got fully engrossed in specific characters’ backgrounds from various franchises I liked, whether I played theirs games or not, and became my mains ever since. While Greninja remains the most notable to me, there was Lucina, Shulk, Palutena, Bayo, Cloud, and even Corrin.
When the results of the Smash Ballot were first revealed with the subtext of "among realizable characters," my brain immediately went to the thought of how many people might've voted to put Shrek and Goku in Smash Bros. I know it's a big meme, but I would not be surprised if people were actually trying to get them in the game, be it as an elaborate joke or genuinely wishing for them. I didn't put much stock into the Ballot's results afterwards, only to be reminded of it again on that fateful year...
“The little handheld (3DS) is not known for its power” Me: Bro! I will have to let you know that the 3DS supports backwards compatibility, introduced cinematic cutscenes for most of its games, and is still more colorful than the Switch during its time.
The 3DS wasn't very powerful, even for it's time, being only slightly stronger than the PSP (and only in some ways), despite releasing seven years later. But when compared to other Nintendo hardware, it could actually be seen as quite ambitious, with the glasses-free 3D, built-in microphone, built-in dual cameras, web browser, multimedia playback, app store, and StreetPass. Kinda funny the Switch has none of that. I think Nintendo saw how successful the Switch was right out the gate and just canceled any plans to update it to have the features of 3DS. I mean, it's selling well already, so why bother? Save a few bucks and buy another yacht.
Bayonetta was the perfect final character imo. The Wii U was such a failure commercially but was a great console with some amazing games. It was very fitting to get a character from a game actually on the Wii U (looking at you cloud) and who could represent for the era. It was also really cool for Nintendo to take a risk and branch out with a character from a mature title something that they hadn’t really done before. As someone who stuck by the Wii U as their only console during a time when everyone else was saying Nintendo was doomed, I think it was really rewarding to have such a bold and current character end off the new smash bros hype train.
Smash 4 literally made me play that game for so long because I liked that duck hunt duo joined the battle. It made me play as him for a long time and I enjoyed it.
I loved playing the Wii U version. Though I do agree that the 3DS version should have been called “Dimension” and the Wii U version should have been called “Universe”.
@@SgtTankDempsey melee has It’s adventure mode, and the best trophy in the series Brawl has the subspace emissary Smash ultimate has the world of light and Spirits smash 4 has has has
@@apineapple3177Y'all keep meatriding Brawl because of Subspace but that's the thing. Subspace just ain't that fun. The only thing it has going for is the cutscenes. That's it. The mode itself is just a slog, and needless to say that Brawl's art style certainly has aged for the worse. Everything looks so dusty and dark. The fact that you have to stare at it the whole way through doesn't help. Don't even get me started on The Great Maze. What sick trick was that? Point being, Brawl is the only game in the series to do a story mode like that, so even though it ain't great, people treat it like the second coming.
I miss some things from Smash Bros. 4. I honestly miss custom specials. I hope they come back in the next Smash Bros. game. I also miss how for the reveal of some characters they'd get artists from other companies to do some art for the character. Like how they got an artist from Capcom to do some art for Mega Man. They got Tetsuya Nomura to do some art for Cloud. And they got Ken Sugimori to do some art for Greninja.
Even if it is the "worst" smash game, is probably the version I played the third most. Just having it on the go made me play it everywhere all the time
7:30 and ironically, these trailers couldn’t even be watched in game. At least Brawl had a handful of the trailers as bonuses but it’s ironic that we’ll never get another proper Adventure Mode because of RUclips and yet RUclips is the only place where you can watch the replacements for it
Smash 4 is probably THE game I have the most total playtime in, easily 2000-3000 hours (along with Monster Hunter Tri). Released during the prime time of my high school, me and my best pal went to my place just to play some Smash like AT LEAST once a week. And believe it or not - quite a lot of that time, we played Smash Tour. Whenever we were tired of being somewhat competitive, we just loved it's crazy randomness and got really invested in finding and keeping the characters we loved.
Its kinda funny how people pretend Brawl wasn't rushed. Its not as easily visible at first glance as in melee. But when you look at some stages (i.e the AnimaL Crossing Stage is just a reskin of Battlefield) Space Pillar is also famously considered the worst stage in the whole series by some.
This is the best exclusive for the Wii U, one of the few games that actually lived up to its hype on the system. I know Ultimate is out now, and hindsight feels 20/20, but we shouldn't undermine everything this game stood for, and how much of it pioneered what Smash Bros is today
I know saying this is the worst smash bros doesn't mean it's bad but Imo I think smash 64 is the worst or actually weakest one out of the series. Still enjoyed hearing out your point of view in the video. I liked it a bunch
30:55 Since the "selfie" era was in full swing, Nintendo and Square Enix should have went with Selphie Tilmitt from Final Fantasy VIII since a nunchuck user would gladly benefit the series, as there hasn't been any nunchuck users before. Not only that, the ban on nunchucks in Europe have been lifted since 2003, so it's not too late to have a nunchuck-fighting character in Smash.
"Little Mac, the first character to ever be promoted from Assist Trophy, to full-on fighter." I'm not gonna call him wrong, since _technically_ he's correct when he says Assist Trophy, but... Charizard _kinda_ beat him to the punch in terms of "assist turned fighter".
I disagree I think it’s a great mod but it’s held back by one There is only one map 2 No online 3 You can’t interact with the players on the map and 4 I wish we got more interesting objectives at the end, rather than free-for-all usually being it It’s sold out it’s a great mode, and I wish they bring it back with half or more of what I brought up
@@apineapple3177 if they did add interacting with other players it would distract you by fight them and prevent you from fighting enemies, the whole point of the mode
I'm still upset that Corrin's reveal basically turned the entirety of the Smash community against the Fire Emblem series, claiming they all play the same, even when Corrin is completely unique, and they completely disregard Robin when saying that. At least Sakurai didn't take it to heart, adding both Chrom and Byleth to the very next game (which i wasnt even allowed to celebrate cuz all my friends were too busy complaining that the last DLC fighter was more Fire Emblem). As a fan of the series myself, i'm always down for more. Just... please pick more than just the protagonists. Give me Hector, Nephenee, Tiki, Azura, Yunaka, anyone (not Alear tho, they suck).
They could also atleast add more than 1 Fighter from other Atlus IPS before adding even more Fire Emblem Glup Shittos. Theres 8 Fire Emblem Characters to 1 from Persona and 0 from Shin Megami Tensei in Ultimate.
Since ultimate look and feel pretty much like a better Smash4 in practically every ways (64, Melee & Brawl at had a unique look to them) and it’s on the WiiU (and not like many more hardcore players would take the 3DS version over one you can play on TV) there’s just pretty much little reason to go back. Smash4 isn’t bad, just that Ultimate is a better option in most way (similar to the original splatoon on the WiiU vs it sequels on the switch)
Smash 4 is honestly one of my fav in the series. Im sorry. The game looked great and was super hype. I understand the weirdness of the the wii/3ds stuff and I actually hated that a 3ds version was even made because it prevented so much. Smash WiiU was in a weird place to me in that it was WAYYY better than Brawl but Ultimate does everything better. granted i think the saturation of the characters are much better in Smash4 and i think they look washed out in ultimate.
All of them are the worst because it allows characters like Mario and Yoshi to beat each other up for no reason instead of them being nice to each other since they’re supposedly friends. None of the Smash Bros. games give an explanation as to why the characters are fighting, and it bothers me. WHY CANT THEY JUST BE FRIENDS??? THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!
DISCLAIMER: Calling it the "worst" doesn't mean it's bad - I just think pretty much every other Smash game ends up being better once the build up, release, and DLC all fade away.
But I'd also love to know your opinions! If you disagree that's okay :)
Yeah especially if it doesn’t have some characters like Snake, Wolf, Pokémon Trainer and Ice Climbers
In my opinion, It is definitely one of the weakest Smash Bros games, sure. but I still don't think it's bad, I still like the game despite its flaws and missing features, and I do still consider the game to be good. I just think there is no bad Smash game.
@@Aaronitmar I mentioned this in another comment but I think it’s worth repeating: Smash Bros. is a very special series where every instalment is great. It’s the finest example of quality over quantity.
@@dandreisincredible95 I 100% Agree 👍
@@YoshiTheeMiniPegasusYeah since Snake and Wolf were my two favorite characters from Braw then they later cut from smash4 and I think the reason why Wolf was cut is because of him being a low poly character because of his moveset and for Snake is probably due to copyright issues from Konami
People really sleep on Smash Run. City Trial + Smash Bros is the best idea the franchise has ever had for a side mode, and I was so much more disappointed by the lack of Smash Run in Ultimate than I was a story mode. I want there to be an online version of Smash Run soo bad.
Especially with the enemy roster that could be expanded by Ultimate's roster, like adding Angels from Bayonetta, or bosses from Monster Hunter.
You're preaching to the choir, fellow Smash Runner. That's why I still play Smash for 3DS to this day; the mode is a diligent way to kill some time, if not anything more.
I don't think Smash 3DS and Wii U are bad...just obsolete. Now they just feel like beta Smash Ultimate
Yeah I can tell that after getting ultimate
People just see smash 4 as
Mid
Its the Mario Kart 8 curse.
Yeah, i remember the game feeling more "alive" back then, nowadays it feels bland
@@rosalinamacarita01 please don’t compare this to 3ds/wii u era Mario, bland is an atrocious word to describe 4
@@JodaroKujo I rather play 4 than ultimate, smash run>world of trash
Smash 4 can't be the worst when Smash 64 exists and has vastly less content even in the singleplayer department while also generally having less polish and features. Even then Smash 4 had the best online multiplayer (low bar but still) and I would still rather do casual local matches in Smash 4 than Melee. I also don't see how the game is "forgettable" at all because for one, playing with custom moves online with friends was an unforgettable experience.
I agree. I understand the restrictions of the Nintendo 64, but it doesn't make the game better. We should compare the game in a vacuum. Melee still holds up great today, but not 64.
@@Liggliluffalso you gotta remember smash 64 was the first game in the series there wasn’t that level of expectation with it. Like more recent smash games
@@gex_6920 I do know that, but if we're purely looking at them as they are, and not anything about why they are like they are
@@Shyguymask 64 is obviously the worst
Smash 64 is really fun, there's an actual reason to play it unlike smash 4 which is nowadays just ddowngraded ultimate. Smash 64 feels distinct enough for there to be more reason to play it over 4.
It ain’t the worst. It gave us Mega Man, Ryu from Streets, Smash on the toilet, Mii fighters, and Cloud.
And it gave us what is my opinion the best main theme in the series.
Smash on the toilet goes hard, helps when your constipated
I would rather play this than 64. But thag was so long ago, the bar ain't thag high. By no means is smash 4 bad, it's just nothing in comparison to literally every other entry.
@@sikosonix901 Smash 64 I think still deserves to be recognised as the one that started it all.
@benmalsky9834 definitely.
Why is this one the worse one when it was the one to laid the foundation to what Ultimate became and was praised for? If anything through process of elimination the worse Smash Bros game is the first one.
The first one put the foundations for literally all the next Smash games…
@@c0mpu73rguy Being the foundation for something great doesn't really make the foundation itself any better or worse. Smash 64 should be APPRECIATED, but saying it's better than Smash4 despite it's obvious shortcomings, just because it started things, feels silly.
@@awakenedcrowl Just saying, that argument is pretty weak. Since usually, previous games in a series are the foundations for the next ones.
@@c0mpu73rguy Well, yeah. So... what? Smash 64 is still it's own game. It still doesn't get better or worse by what came after it. As I said: It is to be RESPECTED for it's influence and achievements, which DID carry over into the next game. As a MILESTONE, it became greater. But the game itself didn't get any better or worse just for it being the predecessor to something greater
A big problem is that in some ways Ultimate is the same game but better
Plot twist: There is no "worst" smash game
I agree. It’s truly a “quality over quantity” series, which we should all be grateful for.
That’s what I think makes Smash Bros. so special. There is no “bad” entry, it’s just that each games builds upon the last.
There is no bad Smash game in Bang Sing Se.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 Are you making fun of me and my stance?
@@poweroffriendship2.0 Please tell me that’s a joke.
First Time I've ever disagreed with Aarontimar
lol same
That was my first Smash Bros game.
Why is everyone suddenly dunking on this game? ITS A GOOD GAME. STOP THIS SLANDER.
It's the least good of them all
@@padriazozzriaorizifian8672 Smash 64 and Brawl are both right there.
People are looking at smash 4 from different perspectives. The harshest opinions come from competitive players that can’t separate the rage mechanic, bayonetta, ladder combos, everything that people hate fighting against in this game. I’m a competitive player myself and dislike those parts of the game, but it doesn’t take a genius to realize smash 4 itself was an important game in the franchise, the additions that were new to that game are what made ultimate an amazing game.
@@MattTOB618 ?????
@@padriazozzriaorizifian8672 Smash 64 because it's the first, so it has the least content, the least polish, etc.
Smash 64 is definitely worse, it’s literally just worse gameplay, less options, worse graphics, and a worse roster. They have the incredibly long hit stun but that’s about all that’s unique about it
However, it has L-canceling, so reducing the landing lag from aerial attacks is possible. Not to mention the gameplay is faster and still holds up today. I think Melee's is the best, though L-canceling isn't as instantaneous as the previous game. After that, L-canceling never came back.
Given the title of the video and its thumbnail, I was prepared to get defensive over Smash 4, Aaronitmar. After watching the video in full and reading your pinned message, I can respect your thoughts.
Smash 4 was, is, and always will be my favorite Smash game. Even so, I see where the limitations of 3DS or the lack of direction in Wii U hold it back. For me, any weakness mentioned in the video is made up in some other ways.
Don't worry; I don't suddenly hate you. Your Costume Origins of Smash 4 got me into your channel. Incidentally, I find the alts in this game to be my favorites across the series.
It's basically an "agree to disagree" situation. Good video.
well yeah you're entitled to your wrong opinion
Glad I'm not the only one that thinks Smash 4 is their favorite
It’s weird, Smash 4 always felt like it was so hype and just there at the same time. I feel like the Wii U era as a whole is kinda the reason why this game is seen in lesser regards. That being said, I still really enjoy it. The new characters and stages are great, and the core gameplay felt the most refined up to that point, and I’m so grateful it exists. However, at the end of the day, it does feel like this game walked so Ultimate could soar.
I am sick and freaking tired of people saying certain games suck just because their on Wii u.
And 3ds
Because Ultimate came out in December 2018, Smash fans got really tired of using their Wii Us to play Smash during the first 2 years of Switch's lifespan.
I actually prefer Smash Wii U's visuals over Ultimate's, the contrast was just so much better, and sure Ultimate looks better from a lighting standpoint but the way Wii U's colors just pop makes me yearn for an Ultimate mod that brings back this style.
Best Smash game 😊
I also prefer the colors over Ultimate as well
Yeah, me too.
I honestly didn't think the Wii U one was that bad, I had it and thought that it was actually pretty fun
Yeah, out of smash for 3DS and Wii U, the Wii U version is my favorite.😊
To me, it’s my second favorite and I don’t think it’s even close to being the worst (In my opinion)
I always thought that SSB4 was the black sheep of the Smash Bros franchise. Mostly because it was divided between two consoles and there was hardly an Adventure Mode in the WiiU.
Not 3ds
Literally a better game than ultimate
I kinda wish custom moves came back. Not only would Mega Man and Palutena love that, but if Nintendo actually made those moves representative of the games they came from, it would make them even more diverse.
Tbh Mr. Game and Watch and my main Olimar both destroy the "this character wouldn't work for a fighting game" yapping that people initially had for Villager and Wii Fit Trainer.
Mr. Game and Watch made things like catch oil in a bucket, walk over sea turtles and flip food in its frying pan. And Olimar could literally only throw pikmin (and punch but like he can't even jump) so it's silly to think that to this day people would be like "Nooo Captain Toad wouldn't work for Smash 6"
3D Land, Smash 4 and Mario Kart 7 are similar in the way that they laid the foundation for what 3D World, Smash Ultimate and Mario Kart 8 would become, and because of that they are often seen as the black sheeps of their respective franchises
@@supertomdeluxe6676 and their 3ds games too 😕
Anyone who thinks Mario Kart 7 is the black sheep is confusing 8 deluxe with the original release of 8.
Mario Kart 7 atleast had agood driver roster. Mario Kart 8 wii u is the Fire Emblem Glup Shittos on steroids: 1/3 of thew Roster is just Koopalings most people don't care about playing as.
If Super Smash Bros. 6 cuts half of the Fighters like the Internet is predicting, then Smash 6 will be the worst Smash Game for that reason alone. I’m sorry, I can’t fathom the Switch 2 having hardware limitations.
Or smash 6 has better modes and fan ultimate and brings back all characters with adding new ones, ultimate will be the worst
Yeah, I agree. I pray that the next Smash game keeps Ultimate's fighter roster and all its stages, and also hoping for the 15 stages that were excluded, and brand new characters and stages.
Smash 6 will have roughly the same amount of characters as Brawl. So expect TONS of cuts. The entire roster will consist of Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, and Fire Emblem characters. Everyone else is gone, aside from DLC.
That wouldn’t be horrible though, a lot of the characters are echo fighters and/or have uninspiring movesets. Ultimate has everyone to choose from but when you get down to it it’s nothing special
Forgettable?
The Smash game with some of the hypest newcomers is FORGETTABLE??
It actually having trophies and an actual All-Star Mode already makes it better than Ultimate lol
EDIT: My bad, I meant All-Star Mode.
And yet some people doesn't like like them for various reasons but mostly because it's different or not perfected enough.
Doesn't Ultimate have a proper Classic Mode instead of a tournament mode or a "choose your own path" campaign? Plus, modeling every Spirit would make the dev time longer and we got fighters from Banjo Kazooie, Tekken, Kingdom Hearts, etc.
Some people are very ungrateful smh
Yeah it The only major thing outside of character reveals a can name is Smash run And even then the game is severely limited bite the hardware What do you mean a proper classic mode? Ultimate had the best classic mode in the entire series no debate Also Trophies, in smash 4 Sucked seriously it was just reuse models and 2D art Work which was just lame
@@fletchking-teamdream7598 Yeah, my bad, I meant All-Star Mode, Classic Mode in Ultimate IS indeed better.
And yeah, I know that Spirits were more practical but it still sucks.
Y'all really need to stop that Smaah 4 slander
Smash for the 3ds is far from forgettable, I grew up with it. Smash 4 also introduced cloud and bayonetta
(12:00) Amiibos didn't learn a thing. It gains a value and increases in CPU level, and starts cheating. They're just a cheating CPU, not a good trained AI.
I still remember the days of checking the Smash 4 website everyday for new characters. Memories...
Now this take is just…bad lmao
lol true
I miss the old day when smash 4 was default game before Ultimate. Now it one with smash tour and no online anymore.
Melee glaze in big 2024 is crazy
It’s sad.
Smash 4 is not the worst at all, if anything it's the 2nd or 3rd best in the series. It's way above brawl and 64 and if u take off the nostalgia goggles then there's an argument for it to be better than melee too. It gave us some of the biggest and most unexpected moments in any smash game. The only game that rivals what it did and surpassed it is Ultimate.
Brawl was only liked because of the story mode, that was it
As someone who mainly focused on the single player and online battles, the lack of an Adventure Mode wasn’t that horrible to me, especially since when I wasn’t playing, watching the Subspace cutscenes on RUclips was a nice pastime.
Smash 4 will always be my most fondly remembered game
Same here, being able to easily play it competitively for years during college before full-time employment and other responsibilities took that away for good made Sm4sh really special for me.
It's the game that turned me into a die-hard Nintendo fan. Before that I didn't care about anything that wasn't Mario. It's also the game that convinced me to spend $2000 on plastic figurines.
Let's never forget... Smash 4 is a game where Pac-Man's grab exists.
It is extremely misleading, very laggy (even laggier than tether grabs for crap sake), and the payoff you get from even landing it leaves a lot to be desired - no kill throws until well past bullying precents, not even Pac-Man's strongest throw, back throw, is even as strong as Mario's, and his down throw only has decent combo potential (not underwhelming, but not super reliable sometimes because of the aforementioned grab issue). As a PAC-MAN main myself, it hurts me saying all of this, but the bitter truth has to be said.
By the way, all of this is a *100% intentional! It was made to be like this!*
@@MickMick247-Soundtrack Plus, Smash 4 is where nerfs are at their highest point here. JUST LOOK AT HOW THEY MASSACRED FALCO!
@@GameWatch-xu6sb Falco was one of the most common competitive characters throughout the series... in Smash 4, complete opposite. ALSO, Jigglypuff, who was already one of the worst characters in Brawl, was ironically nerfed even FURTHER to be the absolute in SSB4.
Without a doubt the WORST smash bros. in the game, nothing else to say about it.
@@MickMick247-Soundtrack ''sigh'' The game balance in Smash 4 is so rigged...
i really enjoyed smash 4 on wii u, i have so many fond memories....master and crazy orders were so much fun to me, its the game where i first learned of competitive smash and found my first true main, it was a fun time. Sure these games had some flaws but idk, I will always have fond memories of these games.
Here's how I'd rank the Smash series, personally
1.) Super Smash Bros Brawl
2.) Super Smash Bros Melee
3.) Super Smash Bros Ultimate
4.) Super Smash Bros for 3DS
5.) Super Smash Bros for 64
6.) Super Smash Bros for Wii U
If you ask me, the biggest problem with Smash Wii U is that it doesn't have a game mode that justifies coming back to that one game in particular. And when looking at the new modes, all of them are either overcomplicated or just feel like Special Smash with extra steps.
Putting Brawl as #1 is very controversial. I'm guessing you were born around the turn of the millennium.
@aclstudios First of, I was born at the turn of the millennium. 2001 to be specific. But nostalgia aside, here are my reasons as to why Brawl is my favorite Smash game.
The first is that Subspace Emissary is the coolest Smash mode, bar none. Probably a cold take, but it's still worth mentioning, as it's a huge plus for me.
The second is the roster. Over the years since Ultimate came out, I've noticed that game's roster has a noticeable amount of fat attached to it. I do appreciate every single character returning, but there are a few that I won't miss in the next game. Imo, Brawl might have the strongest roster, especially with all of the new additions feeling like characters who were always meant to be there and are here to stay.
The third is the little things. The soundtrack is great, the Sticker and Trophy Gallery themes in particular are therapeutic to listen to. And as much people like to dunk on it, I like the art style. It really gives Brawl it's own identity that makes it stand out from the other games, not to mention it completely fits the tone of Subspace Emissary. And in general, I just really like vibe of the entire game. It's cool.
I think you should switch between wii u and 64, not that I'm trying to disrespect the game that started it all but objectively is really lacking in content by today's standards.
@@Mr-Rando423 seriously Brawl has the MOST quality content in any smash bros and it's not even close, hence it is my favorite too.
@Ademhadji653 If you ask me, all of Smash Wii U's problems are made worse by the build-up to its release, and it coming out after Melee and Brawl, games that really set expectations as to what we should expect from a Smash game. I'll be honest. As someone who's been on the hype train since E3 2013 all the way to release, this is the most disappointing game I've ever played. I guess it's true what they say. Expectation is the mother of disappointment.
Say what you will about smash 4, but it undoubtedly grew the fan base and made it more “mainstream” if you will. Also the graphics and aesthetics and character models of this game are the best in the series in my opinion. If it were up to me this would be about what every smash game would look like.
Yall, I don't think he's personally calling it "The Worst." Like, I don't think he thinks it's absolute garbage. Calm down. I think he's talking about it in a sense that a lot of the other games beat it out. Smash 64 started it all, so it's a classic. Melee took that to 11, and people are STILL playing that one! Brawl had an AMAZING story mode, one that LOTS of fans want a sequel too. For everything Smash 4 did, Ultimate just... did better. It brought back everyone. Had a new story mode (despite it not being subspace), SUPER creative classic modes, went even crazier with some of the reveals and character additions...
Smash 4 did A LOT for the series! Hell, it was SUCH a long time coming, and it was GREAT to finally get new content again. I'm very grateful for everything it gave us. It just... Got improved on. And some of the past games just seem to have more charm.
Tell me. You're given Smash 4 and Ultimate to play. Which do you choose?
Smash 4 because of smash run, especially when smash 6 comes out
@@3dsfan2002 Fair enough. I honestly really liked Smash Run too! Had a group of friends I could play it with on the regular back in high school. It's a shame it was just a 3ds exclusive.
Ultimate easy the single player contact is way better smash 4 Has the worst single player Outside of 64
@@apineapple3177 world of light is lazy trash
@@3dsfan2002 Them smash four is even worse
Sakurai regretted putting Bayonetta in. I still remember his reaction when he realised she still had an unfair advantage over everyone else in Ultimate's first build.
If he felt that way then, why does he feel about STEVE?
Smash on the toilet goes hard, helps when your constipated
This drop 8 players smash a massive blow to parties
And 2 incredible prototype of a Mario Party and A moba with tour and run
The customs way better than Ultimate
Ultimate is the worse Smash, the only one that bring 0 inovation killed by a bad fan service
I get annoyed seeing the close up of a character getting ko in ultimate and world of light was trash
Smash 4’s new characters is when I got fully engrossed in specific characters’ backgrounds from various franchises I liked, whether I played theirs games or not, and became my mains ever since. While Greninja remains the most notable to me, there was Lucina, Shulk, Palutena, Bayo, Cloud, and even Corrin.
EVERY Super Smash Bros. game is great. Seriously, it’s a rare instance where every entry is solid.
When the results of the Smash Ballot were first revealed with the subtext of "among realizable characters," my brain immediately went to the thought of how many people might've voted to put Shrek and Goku in Smash Bros. I know it's a big meme, but I would not be surprised if people were actually trying to get them in the game, be it as an elaborate joke or genuinely wishing for them.
I didn't put much stock into the Ballot's results afterwards, only to be reminded of it again on that fateful year...
“It’s a short list.”
Makes a 35 minute video on a few smash games.
“The little handheld (3DS) is not known for its power”
Me: Bro! I will have to let you know that the 3DS supports backwards compatibility, introduced cinematic cutscenes for most of its games, and is still more colorful than the Switch during its time.
The 3DS wasn't very powerful, even for it's time, being only slightly stronger than the PSP (and only in some ways), despite releasing seven years later. But when compared to other Nintendo hardware, it could actually be seen as quite ambitious, with the glasses-free 3D, built-in microphone, built-in dual cameras, web browser, multimedia playback, app store, and StreetPass. Kinda funny the Switch has none of that. I think Nintendo saw how successful the Switch was right out the gate and just canceled any plans to update it to have the features of 3DS. I mean, it's selling well already, so why bother? Save a few bucks and buy another yacht.
Bayonetta was the perfect final character imo.
The Wii U was such a failure commercially but was a great console with some amazing games. It was very fitting to get a character from a game actually on the Wii U (looking at you cloud) and who could represent for the era. It was also really cool for Nintendo to take a risk and branch out with a character from a mature title something that they hadn’t really done before. As someone who stuck by the Wii U as their only console during a time when everyone else was saying Nintendo was doomed, I think it was really rewarding to have such a bold and current character end off the new smash bros hype train.
Also Aaronitmar is the First RUclipsr I started to Consistently Watch!
smash 4 is worse than 64?
smash 4 is my favorite
Smash fans on their way to immediately trash on the Smash game that came before
I can't believe this game's already a decade old, I still remember it like it was only 5-6 years ago! I feel old because of how fast time flies... 😅
Smash 4 literally made me play that game for so long because I liked that duck hunt duo joined the battle. It made me play as him for a long time and I enjoyed it.
Hot take but I think melee is hot garbage.
Hot take smash 4(3ds) is top 3 best
Hey it's Smash 4's 10th anniversary now! Wow time flies!
who the hell thinks melee is better than ultimate?
0:34 that pikachu logo was to derpy😂
Melee and 64 glaze never stops
I loved playing the Wii U version.
Though I do agree that the 3DS version should have been called “Dimension” and the Wii U version should have been called “Universe”.
The fact that people are trying to say it's worse than Brawl is crazy
Because it’s True, there is legit no reason to return to smash 4
@@apineapple3177 There is no legit reason to return to the other games
@@SgtTankDempsey melee has It’s adventure mode, and the best trophy in the series Brawl has the subspace emissary Smash ultimate has the world of light and Spirits smash 4 has has has
@@apineapple3177Y'all keep meatriding Brawl because of Subspace but that's the thing. Subspace just ain't that fun. The only thing it has going for is the cutscenes. That's it. The mode itself is just a slog, and needless to say that Brawl's art style certainly has aged for the worse. Everything looks so dusty and dark. The fact that you have to stare at it the whole way through doesn't help. Don't even get me started on The Great Maze. What sick trick was that? Point being, Brawl is the only game in the series to do a story mode like that, so even though it ain't great, people treat it like the second coming.
@@bloodmuzzleI 100% agree
Smash 4 is better than brawl in my opinion
I GREW UP WITH THIS GAME DONT COOK
Smash 4 is one of my favorite Smash Bros games. Although I wish there was a way to get its DLC, it's still enjoyable and I still play it to this day.😊
I would've rioted if he said that Brawl was the worst smash game
I actually had a lot of fun posting pictures of my Hank Hill and Tai from Digimon miis pictures on Miiverse with this game.
I miss some things from Smash Bros. 4. I honestly miss custom specials. I hope they come back in the next Smash Bros. game. I also miss how for the reveal of some characters they'd get artists from other companies to do some art for the character. Like how they got an artist from Capcom to do some art for Mega Man. They got Tetsuya Nomura to do some art for Cloud. And they got Ken Sugimori to do some art for Greninja.
Even if it is the "worst" smash game, is probably the version I played the third most. Just having it on the go made me play it everywhere all the time
It’ll be outclassed when Smash Run gets fused with Melee’s Adventure Mode
Also Waluigi Fan and A Wii U Kid here.
#Waluigi4Smash6
Custom moves should have been in every smash game
At least those games had trophies unlike Ultimate. And it was fun unlocking custom moves.
7:30 and ironically, these trailers couldn’t even be watched in game. At least Brawl had a handful of the trailers as bonuses but it’s ironic that we’ll never get another proper Adventure Mode because of RUclips and yet RUclips is the only place where you can watch the replacements for it
Yeah you could, on wii u atleast
Things get leaked. Sakurai has to accept that, we need a new Subspace and not a World of Light.
Smash 4 is probably THE game I have the most total playtime in, easily 2000-3000 hours (along with Monster Hunter Tri). Released during the prime time of my high school, me and my best pal went to my place just to play some Smash like AT LEAST once a week. And believe it or not - quite a lot of that time, we played Smash Tour. Whenever we were tired of being somewhat competitive, we just loved it's crazy randomness and got really invested in finding and keeping the characters we loved.
I now want a dedicated video about Aaronitmar yapping about solely custom moves
Idk I'd still say Brawl was the worst. Remove Subspace Emissary and that game is rough.
Its kinda funny how people pretend Brawl wasn't rushed. Its not as easily visible at first glance as in melee. But when you look at some stages (i.e the AnimaL Crossing Stage is just a reskin of Battlefield) Space Pillar is also famously considered the worst stage in the whole series by some.
You chose Battlefield…
This is the best exclusive for the Wii U, one of the few games that actually lived up to its hype on the system. I know Ultimate is out now, and hindsight feels 20/20, but we shouldn't undermine everything this game stood for, and how much of it pioneered what Smash Bros is today
love the scott the woz line stealing
Bad takes.
I know saying this is the worst smash bros doesn't mean it's bad but Imo I think smash 64 is the worst or actually weakest one out of the series. Still enjoyed hearing out your point of view in the video. I liked it a bunch
The worst was brawl you trippin for Wii U is the third best smash
BABES WAKE UP AARON JUST POSTED ❤
I hope he talks about ultimate
I prefer playing smash 4 over smash ultimate
Smash 4 is far from being the worst both the wii u and especially the 3DS version( really underrated version imo)
Wii U Smash game is the best! S Tier! Get on board! Or get left behind!
30:55 Since the "selfie" era was in full swing, Nintendo and Square Enix should have went with Selphie Tilmitt from Final Fantasy VIII since a nunchuck user would gladly benefit the series, as there hasn't been any nunchuck users before. Not only that, the ban on nunchucks in Europe have been lifted since 2003, so it's not too late to have a nunchuck-fighting character in Smash.
"Little Mac, the first character to ever be promoted from Assist Trophy, to full-on fighter."
I'm not gonna call him wrong, since _technically_ he's correct when he says Assist Trophy, but... Charizard _kinda_ beat him to the punch in terms of "assist turned fighter".
Smash run is the second best game mode in the entire series, so for me, smash 3DS is definitly not the worst
I disagree I think it’s a great mod but it’s held back by one There is only one map 2 No online 3 You can’t interact with the players on the map and 4 I wish we got more interesting objectives at the end, rather than free-for-all usually being it It’s sold out it’s a great mode, and I wish they bring it back with half or more of what I brought up
@@apineapple3177 if they did add interacting with other players it would distract you by fight them and prevent you from fighting enemies, the whole point of the mode
I'm still upset that Corrin's reveal basically turned the entirety of the Smash community against the Fire Emblem series, claiming they all play the same, even when Corrin is completely unique, and they completely disregard Robin when saying that. At least Sakurai didn't take it to heart, adding both Chrom and Byleth to the very next game (which i wasnt even allowed to celebrate cuz all my friends were too busy complaining that the last DLC fighter was more Fire Emblem). As a fan of the series myself, i'm always down for more. Just... please pick more than just the protagonists. Give me Hector, Nephenee, Tiki, Azura, Yunaka, anyone (not Alear tho, they suck).
They could also atleast add more than 1 Fighter from other Atlus IPS before adding even more Fire Emblem Glup Shittos.
Theres 8 Fire Emblem Characters to 1 from Persona and 0 from Shin Megami Tensei in Ultimate.
2:52 “yes Rico, K A B O M”
I think Melee is the worst. Don’t give that title to Wii U.
I’m commenting this before I watch the video, but I think the 3DS version of smash is the superior version of smash 4
Since ultimate look and feel pretty much like a better Smash4 in practically every ways (64, Melee & Brawl at had a unique look to them) and it’s on the WiiU (and not like many more hardcore players would take the 3DS version over one you can play on TV) there’s just pretty much little reason to go back. Smash4 isn’t bad, just that Ultimate is a better option in most way (similar to the original splatoon on the WiiU vs it sequels on the switch)
Same Problem with Mario Kart 8.
Though atleast Smash 4 had a mostly good roster.
@ but 8 deluxe is literally a enhanced version of regular 8
Smash 4 is honestly one of my fav in the series. Im sorry. The game looked great and was super hype. I understand the weirdness of the the wii/3ds stuff and I actually hated that a 3ds version was even made because it prevented so much. Smash WiiU was in a weird place to me in that it was WAYYY better than Brawl but Ultimate does everything better. granted i think the saturation of the characters are much better in Smash4 and i think they look washed out in ultimate.
I'd still play them over Smash 64.
I’m the opposite.
I love the 3ds version it was my first smash games, and to be honest soon people are going to say that ultimate is bad when smash 6 come in
And 3ds/wii u will be praised again. All ultimate has is the roster, worlds of light was lazy trash, and other modes are present in other games
All of them are the worst because it allows characters like Mario and Yoshi to beat each other up for no reason instead of them being nice to each other since they’re supposedly friends. None of the Smash Bros. games give an explanation as to why the characters are fighting, and it bothers me. WHY CANT THEY JUST BE FRIENDS??? THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!
27:53 How did you find my fighter ballot vote form when I was like 10?!
Yeah, even though this game is nostalgic, but it's a shame that it's forgettable!
High school memories of me playing Smash on 3DS were awesome.
Smash for Wii u and 3DS just felt like another smash Bros. Well every other smash felt like a moment
I 100% agree with you, I just hate it how this game adds Lucas for DLC (that means he cost like real money)