Man, appreciate you just saying which you prefer straight off the bat. Im'a watch the full video anyway to see how you got to that conclusion but really appreciate that
I won’t lie, if you have an Apple phone it changes everything. The ease of use is much better with the AirPods Max and the transparency mode is far far better along with better noise cancelling. I personally prefer the feel of the AirPods Max but each to their own
Yeah if you really like AirPod design then wait for it. According to the leaks don’t expect much or any upgrades at all other than usbc more Colors and little price decrease.
@@KingKikikoi it should have usbc, u2 chip, precision finding find my, Bluetooth 5.3, new colors, price cut, better battery life, better case!, and all the features the AirPods Pro have… It’s a good update, not design update, but a serious upgrade. The first ones just weren’t worth the price. The next one will be.
I have the AirPods Max, the heavy clamps make these headphones so uncomfortable. I literally get headaches and sore ears. I have also wanted something as an alternative. Don’t get me wrong here, the AirPods Max is awesome, but the fit sucks. They also keep running out of battery and that case is just unacceptable for a product at this price.
@@Josh-Tech-Reviews the audio quality is superb. High and mids are great, bass is amazing. I wear them 4-5 hours every single day, the battery life is also great.
If you are flying, you can connect your Sonos to the display in front of you with the included usb c to 3.5 mm connector and enjoy a long flight with their entertainment. I don't think the Apple can do this and there would be no other way to connect it to the inflight TV system.
There is zero reason to buy the AirPods Max right now unless they come down in price. They were released four years ago and are still the same price they were the day they released. Supposedly they are releasing AirPods Max 2 later this year, so if you are wanting the Apple ecosystem, just wait.
The Sonos Ace seems like a good product but it's still being compared with older headphones. We'll have to wait and see how they stack up with upcoming ones. Also, products evolve these days with new software updates and Sonos Ace seems like it could get some pretty decent ones. WIth that said there is a reason why the Sonos Ace is high in my list versus the upcoming Airpods Max 2. Compatibility. The Airpods Max are great....when they are connected to other Apple products. And we all know the Airpods Max 2 will be great as long as they are connected to other Apple products. Even if many of us here have Apple products, we also have decent number of non-Apple products. We may have an iPhone but decided to get a Samsung Galaxy Tab. Perhaps we have a Mac but also an office PC laptop. We might have a PS5 or Xbox and set-top box from our TV provider that runs on some other random system. Or a Google TV connected to a bedroom tv. As cool as the quality-of-life features in the Airpods Max are, it sucks that when I connect to an Android device, spatial audio and headtracking are gone. Watch a movie on an Android tablet while on holidays? No Spatial audio. Count the number of devices you have and see how many you can't fully take advantage because Apple doesn't do much to support other products. I like Sonos solution because it removes the barrier. Whatever is connected to the Arc gets the same spatial audio + headtracking treatment. Be it iOS or Android they take advantage of all the features. I can even use a BT 5.4 usb dongle lke the FMA120 connected to my iPad or PC/Mac and get Aptx Lossless. Apple will never release a USB dongle to support their audio technology in a 3rd party product. And their products work well with Apple as well. They have Airplay 2. Sonos has apps for most systems. iOS, Google, Windows , Mac.
Torn here. I have Apple TV’s on every TV with some form of Sonos sound bar lol. Decisions decisions. Been holding out for the Max 2’s. Just no telling how long. Great review!
The plastic build and bulky case make the Sonos a no go for me. I’m heavily invested in the Sonos ecosystem, but these headphones don’t seem travel friendly. I also prefer the ear-cup fabric and general design on the AirPods Max.
it only compares because the price of the product is significantly higher than it's local competitors and also my sony xm4s still hold up well to this day
Great and concise comparison video of probably 2 best headphones on the market. I am a Sonos user with about 9 speakers and an Arc in my house. But I am also an Apple user with 3 Apple computers and 3 Apple TV boxes. So, I decided to pop for the AirPods Max on Prime Day at $394 to work with my broad Apple ecosystem including iPad and Phones. I may still buy the Sonos Ace as I love their products and have an Arc but am disappointed that they did not choose to define the headphones as a separate speaker to be used within the ecosystem. It can only be used with the Arc (which I have) and then everything else is bluetooth. Doesn't make sense for a wifi based system. Depending on my experience with the Max, I may not even buy the Ace, but we'll see and I'll try to update my post with my decision in the near future.
Hello Dan, thank you for another wonderful video, I always enjoy your balanced and realistic perspective on Apple’s products. I appreciate that you do not pressure your viewers/listeners (MacRumors Show) to purchase every new iteration of products Apple releases. As far as Headphones go I definitely would like to give the Sonos Ace a listen but, the fact that you need to have other Sonos gear is a dealbreaker for me since I do not have a Sonos Soundbar. There are three reasons for that: 1. None of Sonos’s current Soundbars have an HDMI Input, this means that they do not support Dolby Vision nor Dolby Atmos pass-through. Although my TV does support Dolby Vision, it does not support Dolby Atmos pass-through since the Generation M-Series TV that I purchased does not have a compatible HDMI connection. This means that I cannot plug my Apple TV 4K through a Sonos Arc where I could get Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos at the same time. Maybe Sonos will update the Arc to have an HDMI Input but at the moment, Sonos is not an option for me. 2. I know that most manufacturers have all switched to having metal grills on their Soundbars but to me, metal grills give any speaker a more shrill, artificial and tinny sound which I personally do not particularly care for. The last Soundbar Samsung made that had a fabric grill/cover, the HW-Q950A sounded absolutely amazing! But when Samsung switched to having a metal grill with the HW-Q960 ”?” things went down hill. The Samsung HW-Q990C last year finally improved upon that to some extent and hopefully this year’s Samsung HW-Q990D will improve on that even further. The Samsung Soundbars do in fact support Dolby Vision + Dolby Atmos pass-through since they have HDMI Inputs. The current iteration of the Sonos Arc sounds shrill, tinny and artificial to me and I don’t really care for it. Again, that’s just my personal feeling and I’m not trying to hate on Sonos or on anyone who has a Sonos Arc and absolutely loves it. 3. I already own AirPods Max and an Apple TV which means not only do can I enjoy Spatial/Dolby Atmos Audio with supported content when I use my AirPods Max, but I also enjoy Dolby Vision on my TV. The entry price to get the Sonos Ace would be cheaper for the headphones, but the overall cost would be way more expensive since I’d have to get a Sonos Soundbar to get all of the benefits from Sonos’s ecosystem. The entry price as you mentioned to get into Apple’s ecosystem is a $129 Apple TV, and a pair of AirPods Max which you can get for $449 brand new very often, and sometimes cheaper than that if you get a pair from Best Buy in Open-Box Excellent Condition. I will say this, the Sonos Five, the Sonos Move (Generations 1 & 2), are all very good sounding speakers! The Era 300’s, which do support Dolby Atmos, and the Era 100’s, which do not support Dolby Atmos, sound pretty good as well. Not as good as the Sonos Five or Move speakers but good nonetheless. If someone wants a Soundbar system because that’s all they have room for or they prefer the esthetics of having a streamlined sound system, I would definitely recommend giving the Samsung HW-Q990D a listen. Best Buy currently has it for $1,699.99 on sale and with it you get two Atmos capable surround speakers, the soundbar, and a subwoofer. To get the same kind of setup with Sonos you’re looking at having to spend $2,076 on sale which is $376 more. Thanks again for your video and I hope this comment is helpful to you and your viewers. 😊
How is the bluetooth multiport? If I connect Sonos Ace to both IPhone and Macbook Pro will it automatically switch audio based on which is playing like Airpods?
Great video. Why doing any of these specifically call out the effectiveness of the ANC systems? I’m looking for a specific number of dBs of reduction. I can’t find it on AP Max, Bose or Sonos websites. There must be a reason for not specifically mentioning this figure. What am I missing here?
This may be obvious - can I use my Sonos Ace with an Apple TV and still get Atmos, Spatial, and head tracking? Or can I only get those features with an Arc?
This is my main question as well. He does mention that Atmos works when connected to an iPhone or iPad, so I would hope it would work with an Apple TV.
after my AirPods max failed after a year use..I hope apple is held accountable for this..I might get a sonos or a AirPods max 2..but can sonos have dolby atmos without the soundbar ..
8:03 what makes you think a refresh is coming for AirPods Max? I think they're going the way of the iPod-Hi-Fi and this will be the last pair we see imo.
looking to buy a new option because I had a horrible experience with the airpods max, they only lasted 1 year and a month and had to get them replaced 3 times in that timeframe and every single time it was because of the same issue, the connectivity connector would no longer pair with the phone or ipad and it would randomly happen, they would work in the morning and 2 hours later they would just be a dead pair of metal , it happened again last week and warranty no longer covers it and they want me to pay 837 dollars to get them fixed, it's ridiculous honestly, it's supposed to be a premium headset but personally it's a badly made product if it only lasted 1 year with regular usage
I have the same experience. The first one had failed, then repair failed, now on third one. Same issue as you’re referring to - random connectivity issues and becoming inactive even though there’s full charge.
@@shafqatullah5032 yep same issue on my end, and now out of warranty they want me to pay twice what the headphones cost to replace that part, it’s angering really
I’ve worn the AirPods Max for like 6-8 hours a day for three and a half years and never felt uncomfortable except for on hot days, and the battery life on AirPods Max or lack of a power button have literally never been a problem. Sonos Ace look cheap as hell for the price point.
Im guessing yes via Bluetooth but it’s a much better integration with a soundbar. I’m not sure but my guess would be no Dolby atmos and Spatial Audio this way
I'm sticking with the max. I don't see any real advantage that differentiates between the two. Besides, to pay yet another 450 dollars to a company that fucked up its app and made all of my other Sonos products virtually useless gets a no from me.
Even if the app was great Anyone who has any of the Bose Qc ultra..xm5..bowers and Wilkins px7 s2e or AirPods Max should not care about getting any new headphone for at least the next 2 years Everything in the 400-550 price point gives similar performance If you have any of them Anything else is waste of money
when walking outside, how are these with wind noise? airpods max is terrible and you can hear the wind alot! BOSE QC35-II is almost dead quiet Also, in the office environment, when in a call, and you have people around you talking, will this be cancelled out? Questions I have asked so many other reviewers and never gotten a answer... Will you be able to answer??
2 will be cheaper than 1. Apple always prices version 1 higher of a brand new product,and version 2 the price can come down. They did this with the m2 MacBook Air, iPad 10… etc Max airpods 2 I predict 499, or hopefully 449.
The sound profile is NOT neutral. There is bass emphasis but the treble in particular is wayyyyy too lifted. These headphones have a horrible frequency response and the app is crap. Not to mention a largely plastic design is off-putting at this price point.
For me Apple shouldn’t change the look of the Airpodsmax, its perfect already, headband is perfect it last in a period of time compared to leather. they only need to change are the sound , volume bass etc or adding apps eq to control the preferred sound
I’ve got Sonos speakers around the house and they’re not the best in terms of connectivity/alexa etc the app is clunky and not intuitive. I have the AirPods Max and won’t be changing to the Ace
If you are on Android and want to use these for tv from the arc just save your money. It's iphone only and you'll water 40 mins to get to that conclusion
I don't understand...why woukd this be more seamless and convinient than connecting my headphones directly with my tv via bluetooth? After the initial pairing process, it only takes 1 and a half clicks to switch the audio with my Bose QuiteComfort Ultra or Sennheiser Momemtum 4. So whats the big deal? Or is the audio that switched from the Arc soundbar a better quality audio? I honestly don't get it.
If you care about lossless audio: Sonos says the Ace can be connected to an iPhone with a USB-C to USB-C cable, but the AirPods Max can’t be connected to an iPhone with a Lightning to USB-C cable.
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I must say that if the AirPod Max, a 4 year old device, is still being compared to newly released products, I can't wait to see what Apple releases with version two with all the latest chips and advancements.
how long do you wear it? to feel if it is a good confort headphone, you should wear it 8h, like someone working with it in a remote work. I have a Bose quiet confort QC35 II since it's introduction on the market, ans as of today none, even from Bose, none is as good as the QC35-II. Hope this one will do.
Lightening port is a show stopper for me and makes for an easy decision. Life will be better when I never have to use another lightning cable again, and I am a huge apple fan.
I wish my Sony XM5s had magnetic ear cups. I replaced the original ones with Wicked Cushions as I wasn't a huge fan of the originals and the clips weren't fun to deal with.
I’ll be quite honest with you, most of my app use was to set up the products in my house. Once everything was set up I rarely ever used it. If I ever play music on my system it’s mostly through airplay.
Deep in both ecosystems. Going with Sonos Ace this time. Sonos doesn't disappoint and are more committed to home audio innovation. The Max still don't don't come in USB C and my Apple TVs are basically the same for years despite TVOS updates.
A wired set of reasonably priced over ear headphones along with a USB-C Hi Res dac would easily blow both these headphones out of the water for a fraction of their cost.
Also the most slept on headphones and my favorite after owning literally all of them from the Bose ultra, AirPod max, XM5 definitely has to be sennheiser momentum 5s they definitely sound much better than all of these
Man, appreciate you just saying which you prefer straight off the bat. Im'a watch the full video anyway to see how you got to that conclusion but really appreciate that
You’re welcome and thank you for watching! 👊
100% - its a review, not a mystery novel - just saves us from flying to the end of the video first, and then going back. Love it.
I won’t lie, if you have an Apple phone it changes everything. The ease of use is much better with the AirPods Max and the transparency mode is far far better along with better noise cancelling. I personally prefer the feel of the AirPods Max but each to their own
Hmm… Besides the AirPods Max, what other headphones have you used before?
I'll just wait for the airpods max 2..... been waiting awhile already anyways..
Yeah if you really like AirPod design then wait for it. According to the leaks don’t expect much or any upgrades at all other than usbc more Colors and little price decrease.
@@KingKikikoi it should have usbc, u2 chip, precision finding find my, Bluetooth 5.3, new colors, price cut, better battery life, better case!, and all the features the AirPods Pro have…
It’s a good update, not design update, but a serious upgrade.
The first ones just weren’t worth the price. The next one will be.
@@Johnnyhaag79 All I want is a power button.
@@KingKikikoi There've also been rumors of wireless lossless audio, which would make sense given the integration of lossless into Apple Music.
I have the AirPods Max, the heavy clamps make these headphones so uncomfortable. I literally get headaches and sore ears. I have also wanted something as an alternative. Don’t get me wrong here, the AirPods Max is awesome, but the fit sucks. They also keep running out of battery and that case is just unacceptable for a product at this price.
Just to add that the AirPods Max have 4 years old technology…
Mine work as good as day 1 and I love them.
"be honest"
Yeah but the damn things hurt my head so bad that I returned them lol. I love my Xm5s. Easily the best pair but I'm very curious about the ace
What's the quality?
@@Josh-Tech-Reviews the audio quality is superb. High and mids are great, bass is amazing. I wear them 4-5 hours every single day, the battery life is also great.
Apple Fan boys can't help themselves.
I was waiting for new AirPods Max, but given the “update” announced the other day, I’m here looking at alternatives.
If you are flying, you can connect your Sonos to the display in front of you with the included usb c to 3.5 mm connector and enjoy a long flight with their entertainment. I don't think the Apple can do this and there would be no other way to connect it to the inflight TV system.
There is zero reason to buy the AirPods Max right now unless they come down in price. They were released four years ago and are still the same price they were the day they released. Supposedly they are releasing AirPods Max 2 later this year, so if you are wanting the Apple ecosystem, just wait.
The Sonos Ace seems like a good product but it's still being compared with older headphones.
We'll have to wait and see how they stack up with upcoming ones.
Also, products evolve these days with new software updates and Sonos Ace seems like it could get some pretty decent ones.
WIth that said there is a reason why the Sonos Ace is high in my list versus the upcoming Airpods Max 2.
Compatibility.
The Airpods Max are great....when they are connected to other Apple products. And we all know the Airpods Max 2 will be great as long as they are connected to other Apple products.
Even if many of us here have Apple products, we also have decent number of non-Apple products.
We may have an iPhone but decided to get a Samsung Galaxy Tab. Perhaps we have a Mac but also an office PC laptop.
We might have a PS5 or Xbox and set-top box from our TV provider that runs on some other random system. Or a Google TV connected to a bedroom tv.
As cool as the quality-of-life features in the Airpods Max are, it sucks that when I connect to an Android device, spatial audio and headtracking are gone.
Watch a movie on an Android tablet while on holidays? No Spatial audio.
Count the number of devices you have and see how many you can't fully take advantage because Apple doesn't do much to support other products.
I like Sonos solution because it removes the barrier. Whatever is connected to the Arc gets the same spatial audio + headtracking treatment.
Be it iOS or Android they take advantage of all the features. I can even use a BT 5.4 usb dongle lke the FMA120 connected to my iPad or PC/Mac and get Aptx Lossless. Apple will never release a USB dongle to support their audio technology in a 3rd party product.
And their products work well with Apple as well. They have Airplay 2. Sonos has apps for most systems. iOS, Google, Windows , Mac.
AirPods use a lightning port still. That makes them a no for me.
What about comparing them to Bose Quietcomfort ultra headphones?
Bosé is for casuals
Sorry. But bose is baaaad compared to these. Just tried in media markt.
Bose is average compared to these
As someone who is invested in both ecosystems, I’m torn. I will wait to see the next iteration of AirPods Max before making a decision 👍🏾.
Torn here. I have Apple TV’s on every TV with some form of Sonos sound bar lol. Decisions decisions. Been holding out for the Max 2’s. Just no telling how long. Great review!
Just got Sonos Ace and I am glad with my purchase.
Can’t wait for your review
The plastic build and bulky case make the Sonos a no go for me. I’m heavily invested in the Sonos ecosystem, but these headphones don’t seem travel friendly. I also prefer the ear-cup fabric and general design on the AirPods Max.
The Ace looks better and is lighter and sounds good
How does the Sonos Ace work with Dolby Atmos from iOS Apple Music app?
Insane how a 2024 device is still neck to neck with one that was released in 2020
Yeah bro, some devices are undefeated!
AirPods pale in comparison to ace for sound quality. There is no competition.
it only compares because the price of the product is significantly higher than it's local competitors and also my sony xm4s still hold up well to this day
Bold of you to assume my cash was hard-earned.
😂😂
Sonos are 100% more comfortable
Great and concise comparison video of probably 2 best headphones on the market. I am a Sonos user with about 9 speakers and an Arc in my house. But I am also an Apple user with 3 Apple computers and 3 Apple TV boxes. So, I decided to pop for the AirPods Max on Prime Day at $394 to work with my broad Apple ecosystem including iPad and Phones.
I may still buy the Sonos Ace as I love their products and have an Arc but am disappointed that they did not choose to define the headphones as a separate speaker to be used within the ecosystem. It can only be used with the Arc (which I have) and then everything else is bluetooth. Doesn't make sense for a wifi based system.
Depending on my experience with the Max, I may not even buy the Ace, but we'll see and I'll try to update my post with my decision in the near future.
Hello Dan, thank you for another wonderful video, I always enjoy your balanced and realistic perspective on Apple’s products. I appreciate that you do not pressure your viewers/listeners (MacRumors Show) to purchase every new iteration of products Apple releases. As far as Headphones go I definitely would like to give the Sonos Ace a listen but, the fact that you need to have other Sonos gear is a dealbreaker for me since I do not have a Sonos Soundbar. There are three reasons for that:
1. None of Sonos’s current Soundbars have an HDMI Input, this means that they do not support Dolby Vision nor Dolby Atmos pass-through. Although my TV does support Dolby Vision, it does not support Dolby Atmos pass-through since the Generation M-Series TV that I purchased does not have a compatible HDMI connection. This means that I cannot plug my Apple TV 4K through a Sonos Arc where I could get Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos at the same time. Maybe Sonos will update the Arc to have an HDMI Input but at the moment, Sonos is not an option for me.
2. I know that most manufacturers have all switched to having metal grills on their Soundbars but to me, metal grills give any speaker a more shrill, artificial and tinny sound which I personally do not particularly care for. The last Soundbar Samsung made that had a fabric grill/cover, the HW-Q950A sounded absolutely amazing! But when Samsung switched to having a metal grill with the HW-Q960 ”?” things went down hill. The Samsung HW-Q990C last year finally improved upon that to some extent and hopefully this year’s Samsung HW-Q990D will improve on that even further. The Samsung Soundbars do in fact support Dolby Vision + Dolby Atmos pass-through since they have HDMI Inputs. The current iteration of the Sonos Arc sounds shrill, tinny and artificial to me and I don’t really care for it. Again, that’s just my personal feeling and I’m not trying to hate on Sonos or on anyone who has a Sonos Arc and absolutely loves it.
3. I already own AirPods Max and an Apple TV which means not only do can I enjoy Spatial/Dolby Atmos Audio with supported content when I use my AirPods Max, but I also enjoy Dolby Vision on my TV. The entry price to get the Sonos Ace would be cheaper for the headphones, but the overall cost would be way more expensive since I’d have to get a Sonos Soundbar to get all of the benefits from Sonos’s ecosystem. The entry price as you mentioned to get into Apple’s ecosystem is a $129 Apple TV, and a pair of AirPods Max which you can get for $449 brand new very often, and sometimes cheaper than that if you get a pair from Best Buy in Open-Box Excellent Condition.
I will say this, the Sonos Five, the Sonos Move (Generations 1 & 2), are all very good sounding speakers! The Era 300’s, which do support Dolby Atmos, and the Era 100’s, which do not support Dolby Atmos, sound pretty good as well. Not as good as the Sonos Five or Move speakers but good nonetheless. If someone wants a Soundbar system because that’s all they have room for or they prefer the esthetics of having a streamlined sound system, I would definitely recommend giving the Samsung HW-Q990D a listen. Best Buy currently has it for $1,699.99 on sale and with it you get two Atmos capable surround speakers, the soundbar, and a subwoofer. To get the same kind of setup with Sonos you’re looking at having to spend $2,076 on sale which is $376 more.
Thanks again for your video and I hope this comment is helpful to you and your viewers. 😊
Very good review. What is the transparency feature you mentioned?
does the Spatial Audio still work with iPhone or its just with the Sonos Arc? I'm so indecisive between the two
sonos all day every day...dishing my xm5 for it...apple eco is a trap...so no...they just got lucky with matter for auto homes...
How is the bluetooth multiport? If I connect Sonos Ace to both IPhone and Macbook Pro will it automatically switch audio based on which is playing like Airpods?
It works surprisingly well. You will need to pause audio on one device and it will automatically switch to other device
i have both and the airpods max still sound a lot better by a long shot in my opinion, but the sonos are a lot more comfortable.
Great video. Why doing any of these specifically call out the effectiveness of the ANC systems? I’m looking for a specific number of dBs of reduction. I can’t find it on AP Max, Bose or Sonos websites. There must be a reason for not specifically mentioning this figure. What am I missing here?
This may be obvious - can I use my Sonos Ace with an Apple TV and still get Atmos, Spatial, and head tracking? Or can I only get those features with an Arc?
Good question.
I’m wondering the same thing, they should not work with head tracking but they should work with atmos
This is my main question as well. He does mention that Atmos works when connected to an iPhone or iPad, so I would hope it would work with an Apple TV.
Yes you can
Ill try this later.
after my AirPods max failed after a year use..I hope apple is held accountable for this..I might get a sonos or a AirPods max 2..but can sonos have dolby atmos without the soundbar ..
They Airpods Max are sexy, but I'm so deep in the Sonos ecosystem that it'd be hard to pass on the Ace
Imagine it a like and watch the video for telling us what you prefer in the beginning of the video.
THANK YOU for giving your ultimate decision right at the start, but I'm still watching the whole things because I want to here your thoughts
8:03 what makes you think a refresh is coming for AirPods Max? I think they're going the way of the iPod-Hi-Fi and this will be the last pair we see imo.
Just received and tried the Sonos Ace. Absolute rubbish. Going straight back.
Which one gets louder???
get wired headphones and a high power bluetooth dac bro... trust me
HAHAHA probably the BEST question here.
@@TAELSDOLL Thanks for the heads up!
Great video, still waiting for that AirPods Max 2 announcement from Apple this fall
Air pods maxes look ugli. They look like a scons cake, and the headband 🤮.
Garbage design
Curious to see when the sony wh-1000xm6 come out & how they compare.
Sonos felt super cheap, and the sound is not that good…..
looking to buy a new option because I had a horrible experience with the airpods max, they only lasted 1 year and a month and had to get them replaced 3 times in that timeframe and every single time it was because of the same issue, the connectivity connector would no longer pair with the phone or ipad and it would randomly happen, they would work in the morning and 2 hours later they would just be a dead pair of metal , it happened again last week and warranty no longer covers it and they want me to pay 837 dollars to get them fixed, it's ridiculous honestly, it's supposed to be a premium headset but personally it's a badly made product if it only lasted 1 year with regular usage
I have the same experience. The first one had failed, then repair failed, now on third one. Same issue as you’re referring to - random connectivity issues and becoming inactive even though there’s full charge.
@@shafqatullah5032 yep same issue on my end, and now out of warranty they want me to pay twice what the headphones cost to replace that part, it’s angering really
I got my Sonos Ace a couple days ago. Wow.
Bose Ultra Comfort for me. Costco sale $200 is great value.
I’ve worn the AirPods Max for like 6-8 hours a day for three and a half years and never felt uncomfortable except for on hot days, and the battery life on AirPods Max or lack of a power button have literally never been a problem. Sonos Ace look cheap as hell for the price point.
Can you connect the ace to Apple TV?
Im guessing yes via Bluetooth but it’s a much better integration with a soundbar. I’m not sure but my guess would be no Dolby atmos and Spatial Audio this way
@@macrumors You haven’t tried?
@@macrumors $450 is steep for a guess my friend! Do you have any experience?
Got the sonos ace for 300$ open box best buy.
What Hi-Fi, who seem to be pretty rational about this type of thing and were not very flattering of the Ace sound quality at all.
🤷♂️ seen and talked to plenty of people who seemed to really like the sound quality
@@macrumors Perhaps it's the What Hi-Fi fella's who are the outlier. Thanks for the review and response too.
Well no shit airpods max are 3 years older
I'm sticking with the max. I don't see any real advantage that differentiates between the two. Besides, to pay yet another 450 dollars to a company that fucked up its app and made all of my other Sonos products virtually useless gets a no from me.
Even if the app was great
Anyone who has any of the Bose Qc ultra..xm5..bowers and Wilkins px7 s2e or AirPods Max should not care about getting any new headphone for at least the next 2 years
Everything in the 400-550 price point gives similar performance
If you have any of them
Anything else is waste of money
What the f bro, Sonos done f'ed up.
@@damifash758 LOL
@@Josh-Tech-Reviewsmad cuz bad?
when walking outside, how are these with wind noise? airpods max is terrible and you can hear the wind alot! BOSE QC35-II is almost dead quiet
Also, in the office environment, when in a call, and you have people around you talking, will this be cancelled out?
Questions I have asked so many other reviewers and never gotten a answer... Will you be able to answer??
I prefer the Sonos Ace personally
2 will be cheaper than 1.
Apple always prices version 1 higher of a brand new product,and version 2 the price can come down.
They did this with the m2 MacBook Air, iPad 10… etc
Max airpods 2 I predict 499, or hopefully 449.
The sound profile is NOT neutral. There is bass emphasis but the treble in particular is wayyyyy too lifted. These headphones have a horrible frequency response and the app is crap.
Not to mention a largely plastic design is off-putting at this price point.
For me Apple shouldn’t change the look of the Airpodsmax, its perfect already, headband is perfect it last in a period of time compared to leather. they only need to change are the sound , volume bass etc or adding apps eq to control the preferred sound
Only thing holding me back from buying the AirPods Max is Apple. If the Max 2 only new feature is usb-c I’m ordering the minute orders go live.
I’ve got Sonos speakers around the house and they’re not the best in terms of connectivity/alexa etc the app is clunky and not intuitive. I have the AirPods Max and won’t be changing to the Ace
Everything playing on your TV plays on the Arc/Ace
vs
Everything playing from your Apple TV can play on the AirPods Max
Well you can’t connect the Sonos with anything in their family. Only the over priced Soundbar. That’s dumb
AirPods Max 2 with USB C is my vote
If you are on Android and want to use these for tv from the arc just save your money. It's iphone only and you'll water 40 mins to get to that conclusion
White or black color better?
White
If you're buying one now the Sonos ACE.... I wouldn't spend over $300 for the Airpods because of it's age tbh
Holy Shit! Sonos put a power button on their headphones?!?! Now they just gotta do the same for all their other products!
If you have apple products the AirPod max are the best choice period. They integrate and work perfectly with all Apple devices.
I don't understand...why woukd this be more seamless and convinient than connecting my headphones directly with my tv via bluetooth? After the initial pairing process, it only takes 1 and a half clicks to switch the audio with my Bose QuiteComfort Ultra or Sennheiser Momemtum 4.
So whats the big deal? Or is the audio that switched from the Arc soundbar a better quality audio?
I honestly don't get it.
C'mon now. Honestly should be a prerequisite, not something you put in your video title.
Literally just 1 sentence about mic... What the heck? No one this days speak with their headset? 😥
Love the breakdown. I will be buying a Sonos Ace due to my whole house is Sonos and I will be waiting for the AirPod Max 2 to come out soon.
If you care about lossless audio: Sonos says the Ace can be connected to an iPhone with a USB-C to USB-C cable, but the AirPods Max can’t be connected to an iPhone with a Lightning to USB-C cable.
Does vegan leather come from vegans?
Yes
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I must say that if the AirPod Max, a 4 year old device, is still being compared to newly released products, I can't wait to see what Apple releases with version two with all the latest chips and advancements.
how long do you wear it? to feel if it is a good confort headphone, you should wear it 8h, like someone working with it in a remote work.
I have a Bose quiet confort QC35 II since it's introduction on the market, ans as of today none, even from Bose, none is as good as the QC35-II.
Hope this one will do.
All my airpods, gen 1, 2, pros, 3 and max, have had serious issues. Been waiting for a decent competitor to ditch the apple train.
Honestly I’d say get a best buy membership buy the AirPod max and return it after 60 days and then buy the next gen AirPod max
Lightening port is a show stopper for me and makes for an easy decision. Life will be better when I never have to use another lightning cable again, and I am a huge apple fan.
comparing any new headphones to airpods max just feels like insult.
If you have a Sonos Upgrade Credit available you can get £70 off the Ace.
Airpodmax are very good but if you don't have an iPhone or apple product it's not worth it
For being known as the "Apple guy" Dan did a really good job here assessing both products objectively and fairly.
You can always purchase a bluetooth transmitter rather than a soundbar or AppleTV
In Australia the Sonos Ace are cheaper then the AirPods Max, but I hate the idea of having an app
Only 20 hours 😆
I wish my Sony XM5s had magnetic ear cups. I replaced the original ones with Wicked Cushions as I wasn't a huge fan of the originals and the clips weren't fun to deal with.
At least clean your dandruff off the AirPod Max’s….😂😂
Imagine paying $600 for a pair of headphones that will “get you by”
Comparing these to almost 3yr old headphones is crazy…that’s very telling
SONOS
Dont buy nothing until airpod max 2 comes next month
If you’re in the Apple ecosystem then the choice is clear.
The next AirPod max case will be a g string.
The Auto-EQ on the AirPods Max is so damn good.
What do you think about the new app update?
they removed the sleep timer which was a truly amazing feature
I’ll be quite honest with you, most of my app use was to set up the products in my house. Once everything was set up I rarely ever used it. If I ever play music on my system it’s mostly through airplay.
Look great. Thing is I am not an over the head headset user
Con la pessima qualità della attuale app Sonos come si fa a comprare altri prodotti Sonos?
AirPods Max weight is the deal breaker
Oh wow guys, he’s HONEST again!
Great intro dude, nice and smooth! Thanks for showing me a great way to introduce a product! Do you edit ur own videos?
Deep in both ecosystems. Going with Sonos Ace this time. Sonos doesn't disappoint and are more committed to home audio innovation. The Max still don't don't come in USB C and my Apple TVs are basically the same for years despite TVOS updates.
how sore is your throat
A wired set of reasonably priced over ear headphones along with a USB-C Hi Res dac would easily blow both these headphones out of the water for a fraction of their cost.
You’re missing the one click home theater connection though. That’s a major part of these
Also the most slept on headphones and my favorite after owning literally all of them from the Bose ultra, AirPod max, XM5 definitely has to be sennheiser momentum 5s they definitely sound much better than all of these
Momentum 5??? Those are not even released yet