Merry Christmas, Armin. I am happy to see your shoulder has healed enough to shoot these moderate draw weight bows again comfortably. Malta and where I live are very close in Latitude. Here are three seasons: hot and dry, hot and humid, cold with alternating wet and dry. Laminated bows do not do well here without extra special care. Fiberglass and these "cast resin" bows truly excel. I have purchased several such bows on your recommendation. All are excellent. Thank you for this and all your reviews.
Another sweet shooter by Simsek! Quick little bugger! Merry Christmas and Happy holidays to our archery community! Thank you my friend for all you do for all of us! Another honest review as always!
A gorgeous shortie .... (man that bow is short) ...I'd love to shoot/or own one of these but I'd hurt my fingers ( I know ... 'toughen up'.... ) but I'm old, so i don't think I'll be called into battle against the oncoming hordes with this thing (I'd just choose a longer bow).... a beauty of a bow (for those that can handle it). It's odd but I have been comparing 'Bows to Cars' for a while .... This bow is a Ferrari.... powerful, small, light and needs skill to get the best from it. Longbows/ Manchu's / Yumi bows are Bentleys or Rolls Royce's... smooth, relaxed and powerful (but not a sports car). Mongolian/Chinese bows are delivery vans.... Tough, utilitarian... not the fastest or most luxurious , but reliable and dependable. Korean bows are Mitsubishi Lancers and Subaru WRX... big performance in a small package. American Indian bows are 'Boy Racer' bows ... fast(ish) and powerful(ish) in a small package, but 'Raw' .... not much finesse, trying to punch above their weight, and often succeeding.... Yes ... I'm Joking...
Thx for this video and thx for your recommandation when I asked you for a short turkish style bow. I was looking it up and wrote to the company, but the communication was so complicated and didn`t work at all (don`t want to mention the comapany here). But then I found some other videos from you, Armin, where you tested Simsek Bows and I contacted them and ordered a Tatar Cagan short plus. The communication so far was over the top! I got pictures from the production, the makers (father and son), informations about details and so on and they answered every Question within a few Minutes, so that I don`t have the slightest doubt I will get what I expected. What shall I say - can`t wait `till I hold it in hands - it takes a little longer for over 45 pound bows, but in arround 5 Weeks I should have it. So thanks again for your Videos and marry Christmas!
Family Simsek thank you for making such fun, beautiful bows and giving our teacher a new friend. Delightful review as always Armin, thank you for all you do for us. Happy belated Christmas everybody😘
I found your channel because of the hankyu review (I ordered one recently) and, man, I loved your vibe, awesome video quality, thank you for your work.
An enjoying revue, like always ! I love the çagan short too and... it coming soon !! Mouhahahahaha ^^ ( oh i loose my mind, go to shoot a litlle bit and recenter ) I wish you a good end of the year, good arrows, and a lot of revues for the 2022, because it's a so much good time for us, and for you i know ^^
I got this bow last month. I cannot put it down. Fantastic bow. Finding the correct arrows has be difficult or maybe it’s my shooting. Not the bow’s fault lovely bow Thanks for the video!
@@Daylon91 :) this bow reviewed in this video is the Simsek Ottoman Sipahi Hybrid +Plus model. Although it is our "longer" Sipahi version; with that 102cm string length it is still a "short" Turkish bow compared to many others :)
I bought the Çagan plus two weeks ago (which I am extremely happy about!), but I would have liked to now how the new versions of the Hybrid and Sipahi feel and work. Thank you for the review Armin, and Merry Christmas!🎄🎁
i see they finally made some upgrades with the nocking points and belly materials…. and the draw length gotten better…. they have been receiving some serious (well warrantied) criticisms….
Armin Dude can you tell me how this bow stacks up against one from Supri Aj? His bending fiberglass bows mainly but since you've handled both his horn hybrid bows as well please. Also at the end of the day does the performance of this bow in your opinion justify the almost 700 dollar Canadian price tag?
@@ArminHirmer Thank's Armin. I do believe I'll stick with AJ as he does make a great bow. I'd like the Simsek but if I'm going to spend that much on a bow it will be a Howard Hill for not much more.
FITA standard is from the deepest part of the hand n(but we dont have these kind of pistol grips) so I use the place where the arrow sits, makes most sense to me
Is this the 3rd generation of Şimşek bows? I'd like to know if the handle design has some changes, because the previous version was kinda "edgy" on the backside.
@@mbfloris612 that flatness on back and the "edgy" feel was changed after the feedbacks for the first generation. this bow reviewed in this video can be called the newest 4th generation....
What do you recommend this Simsek Short Sipahi Hybrid or Grozer biocomposite Short Turkish bow? do not consider the beauty that does not interest me, I would like to know which is the most effectiveness, kinetic energy with the right arrows and precision. Thanks!
Haaaa a new Şimşek Bow ! They really are the best synth bows (but I'm not objective haha). Thanks a lot Armin for this great review (once again) ! (and finally there is a kind of winter in Malta ? Seems frisky ;-) )
Hello. This is Ottoman Sipahi (Hybrid) + Plus model based on actual Simsekbows naming. Note for new viewers. Down below in comments it's confirmed by Simsekbows themselves.
@@ArminHirmer just did that note because I nearly ordered short version because I thought this video is short version of Simsek sipahi bow called "Ottoman short Sipahi + Plus". Name of video and text in video refers to short sipahi bow. I realized my mistake just after comparing measurements of bows as they are visually nearly identical.
Could you specify the exact model you tested? On the Simsek website, there is the model: Simsek Ottoman Sipahi Hybrid (+)Plus and the model: Simsek Ottoman Short Sipahi (+)Plus. But there is no model: Simsek Ottoman Short Sipahi Hybrid(+)Plus. Thank you
at longer ranges like 20-30 meter shooting do you find thumb draw + khatra or mediterranean draw with a shelf more accurate? I hunt instinctive with a bodnik bow and am always chasing better accuracy. do you think higher accuracy is achievable with horsebows and thumb draws??
Seems there are sharpshooters with all styles. Practice makes better and finding the most fun for yourself tends to lead to more practice... Try different things and then focus on what works for you. Always be open to learn new things but also to discard what does not work for you...
Nice bow. Looks highly (!) similar to the Okcubaba Turkish bow which is a nice shooting fiber bow, too, and about 130 Euro less. Arif Budiman‘s Turkish bow, that I love and is nicely made, is 200 Euro less. Pricewise, in Europe this bow is significantly more expensive than a Grozer Persian Biocomposite or a Vegh Short Sipahi/Fetih or even the great Que Yue by AF Archery (considering shipping and taxes). These Turkish style bows (laminated) are outstanding and have a longer max draw. In my opinion, Simsek bows are too expensive for what you get. From my experience, short bows are (always) a bit demanding.
@@jme104 sorry if misunderstood. but in another review this bow was measured to have a "~840 grams" weight. that was why we referred as "confusing" and mentioned tools may need recalibration as you also mentioned as "come back to brace height before each measure". you are totally right about the force-draw curve... thanks....
Turkish bows are slower with 10 gpp weight arrows but it's designed to shoot insanely light arrows like no other bow can, so u can flat shoot farther (more accuracy)
@@Daylon91 It seems korean and turkish design is similar. The differences seem to be korean bows have shorter brace height and the handle has a different grip.
@@Daylon91 It also seems korean bows are design to draw a little bit long because I notice korean archers go all the way back but turkish archers stop at their ears
That’s a really cool snappy little bow, always enjoy the Turkish style bows, Merry Christmas from Alabama
Merry Christmas to everybody! Nice to watch yet another gorgeous bow and review, before family arrives for Christmas meal...
Merry Christmas to everyone!
Thank you for that review
Merry Christmas, Armin. I am happy to see your shoulder has healed enough to shoot these moderate draw weight bows again comfortably. Malta and where I live are very close in Latitude. Here are three seasons: hot and dry, hot and humid, cold with alternating wet and dry. Laminated bows do not do well here without extra special care. Fiberglass and these "cast resin" bows truly excel. I have purchased several such bows on your recommendation. All are excellent. Thank you for this and all your reviews.
Thank you
Another sweet shooter by Simsek! Quick little bugger! Merry Christmas and Happy holidays to our archery community! Thank you my friend for all you do for all of us! Another honest review as always!
Really a little monster. That's quite a difference in speed. Impressive.
Merry Christmas, Armin 😁
A gorgeous shortie .... (man that bow is short) ...I'd love to shoot/or own one of these but I'd hurt my fingers ( I know ... 'toughen up'.... ) but I'm old, so i don't think I'll be called into battle against the oncoming hordes with this thing (I'd just choose a longer bow).... a beauty of a bow (for those that can handle it).
It's odd but I have been comparing 'Bows to Cars' for a while ....
This bow is a Ferrari.... powerful, small, light and needs skill to get the best from it.
Longbows/ Manchu's / Yumi bows are Bentleys or Rolls Royce's... smooth, relaxed and powerful (but not a sports car).
Mongolian/Chinese bows are delivery vans.... Tough, utilitarian... not the fastest or most luxurious , but reliable and dependable.
Korean bows are Mitsubishi Lancers and Subaru WRX... big performance in a small package.
American Indian bows are 'Boy Racer' bows ... fast(ish) and powerful(ish) in a small package, but 'Raw' .... not much finesse, trying to punch above their weight, and often succeeding....
Yes ... I'm Joking...
You can always use a thumb ring, also Manchu bows are notorious for the handshock, they are more like trucks than rolls.
Thx for this video and thx for your recommandation when I asked you for a short turkish style bow. I was looking it up and wrote to the company, but the communication was so complicated and didn`t work at all (don`t want to mention the comapany here). But then I found some other videos from you, Armin, where you tested Simsek Bows and I contacted them and ordered a Tatar Cagan short plus. The communication so far was over the top! I got pictures from the production, the makers (father and son), informations about details and so on and they answered every Question within a few Minutes, so that I don`t have the slightest doubt I will get what I expected. What shall I say - can`t wait `till I hold it in hands - it takes a little longer for over 45 pound bows, but in arround 5 Weeks I should have it. So thanks again for your Videos and marry Christmas!
you will love the bow
Family Simsek thank you for making such fun, beautiful bows and giving our teacher a new friend. Delightful review as always Armin, thank you for all you do for us.
Happy belated Christmas everybody😘
Armin, thank you so much for the review, as always it was awesome. Happy New Year to all.
Merry Christmas and I love that bow👍
I found your channel because of the hankyu review (I ordered one recently) and, man, I loved your vibe, awesome video quality, thank you for your work.
Thank you
a good review. thank yew
So glad to see you here Gary
love your videos brother!
An enjoying revue, like always ! I love the çagan short too and... it coming soon !! Mouhahahahaha ^^ ( oh i loose my mind, go to shoot a litlle bit and recenter )
I wish you a good end of the year, good arrows, and a lot of revues for the 2022, because it's a so much good time for us, and for you i know ^^
I got this bow last month. I cannot put it down. Fantastic bow. Finding the correct arrows has be difficult or maybe it’s my shooting. Not the bow’s fault lovely bow
Thanks for the video!
the bow is a bit demanding in regards of arrows and shooting, but once it is settled.... FUN!
what kind of arrows did you choose in the end?
Wow, it gets better and better. Good job 👍.
This is the Hybrid +. The Short Sipahi is a smaller bow, string length 94cm, max draw 29inches... Thanks for the video!
Isn't that what he has in the title the HYbrid Plus? Well plus the short Sipahi
@@Daylon91 :)
this bow reviewed in this video is the Simsek Ottoman Sipahi Hybrid +Plus model.
Although it is our "longer" Sipahi version;
with that 102cm string length it is still a "short" Turkish bow compared to many others :)
I was just looking at their bows too. Good review
Short bows are so cool looking imo.
I bought the Çagan plus two weeks ago (which I am extremely happy about!), but I would have liked to now how the new versions of the Hybrid and Sipahi feel and work.
Thank you for the review Armin, and Merry Christmas!🎄🎁
Merry Christmas
Wow! I loved 😍 simply Great. 🤩👍
i see they finally made some upgrades with the nocking points and belly materials….
and the draw length gotten better….
they have been receiving some serious (well warrantied) criticisms….
Armin Dude can you tell me how this bow stacks up against one from Supri Aj? His bending fiberglass bows mainly but since you've handled both his horn hybrid bows as well please. Also at the end of the day does the performance of this bow in your opinion justify the almost 700 dollar Canadian price tag?
You can have 95% of the fun with AJs bows
@@ArminHirmer Thank's Armin. I do believe I'll stick with AJ as he does make a great bow. I'd like the Simsek but if I'm going to spend that much on a bow it will be a Howard Hill for not much more.
Where do people measure draw from.. the belly of the grip.. or the back.. or where the palm sits... ?
FITA standard is from the deepest part of the hand n(but we dont have these kind of pistol grips) so I use the place where the arrow sits, makes most sense to me
@@ArminHirmer ohhhh... Ok. I see. Thanx
Nice fiberglass bow..
👍👍👍👍
Why do you say is fiberglass?
@@kanato.archery because made from fiberglass resin..
What do you thing they using material for that bows??
But btw,that is nice bows..
@@supriajarchery you think the price is ok for their bows? I think it's too high. I'd buy a nice fibreglass or laminated before these bows.
@@Daylon91 i canot answear..
Sorry...
But you can thinking about that..
🙏🙏🙏🙏
Is this the 3rd generation of Şimşek bows? I'd like to know if the handle design has some changes, because the previous version was kinda "edgy" on the backside.
the first version was a bit edgy, from the second its more rounded
@@ArminHirmer Nice to hear. That was my only issue I had with my Hybrid+ bow
@@mbfloris612 that flatness on back and the "edgy" feel was changed after the feedbacks for the first generation. this bow reviewed in this video can be called the newest 4th generation....
@@Simsekbow when are they available?
What do you recommend this Simsek Short Sipahi Hybrid or Grozer biocomposite Short Turkish bow?
do not consider the beauty that does not interest me, I would like to know which is the most effectiveness, kinetic energy with the right arrows and precision.
Thanks!
Both great
@@ArminHirmer Ahahaha, thanks
Grozer has better performance
Haaaa a new Şimşek Bow ! They really are the best synth bows (but I'm not objective haha). Thanks a lot Armin for this great review (once again) ! (and finally there is a kind of winter in Malta ? Seems frisky ;-) )
The shiny belly of this one is very beautiful, seems like the horn of composites. Like it !
yeah frigging cold here, today we have 18 degrees and sunshine and I am now off to an archery session hahaha
@@ArminHirmer hahaha do you know that we all hate you, with our little few degrees and rain and mud and no archery til spring? Haha! 😭
@@Alundrael hahaha you all are not trees, you can move :D
@@ArminHirmer I just have a doubt : did you say 18°C or F? 😂
Hello. This is Ottoman Sipahi (Hybrid) + Plus model based on actual Simsekbows naming. Note for new viewers. Down below in comments it's confirmed by Simsekbows themselves.
+ is just for the leather. But everybody can check this on their website
@@ArminHirmer just did that note because I nearly ordered short version because I thought this video is short version of Simsek sipahi bow called "Ottoman short Sipahi + Plus". Name of video and text in video refers to short sipahi bow. I realized my mistake just after comparing measurements of bows as they are visually nearly identical.
Could you specify the exact model you tested?
On the Simsek website, there is the model: Simsek Ottoman Sipahi Hybrid (+)Plus and the model: Simsek Ottoman Short Sipahi (+)Plus.
But there is no model: Simsek Ottoman Short Sipahi Hybrid(+)Plus.
Thank you
Is this one wrapped in leather?
Thx for nice review, wondering if there is any bow performance difference between plus and non plus models, except aesthetic covering in leather?
No
I thought shoot exp... Would been 9... But I get it
Hello, your videos is very good. Whats the f-value? Thank you Sir
a beautyfull bow
Link to Simsek is broken.
at longer ranges like 20-30 meter shooting do you find thumb draw + khatra or mediterranean draw with a shelf more accurate?
I hunt instinctive with a bodnik bow and am always chasing better accuracy. do you think higher accuracy is achievable with horsebows and thumb draws??
I dont think so, esp. when you are used to one technique. stick with it
@@ArminHirmer much appreciated! You saved me some serious time!
Seems there are sharpshooters with all styles. Practice makes better and finding the most fun for yourself tends to lead to more practice... Try different things and then focus on what works for you. Always be open to learn new things but also to discard what does not work for you...
Does it not hurt your hand as the arrow fletchings brush past?
if the fletching is bad made or the arrow then nocked too low, sometimes
Really not bad!!
Wow.. this is a nice one... A little to small.. I wish it was a few inches longer... Maybe better draw length...
But... It's got serious potential
Which kind of bows is it that stack real bad.. at the end of draw... Turkish... Or... I can't remember???
Nice bow. Looks highly (!) similar to the Okcubaba Turkish bow which is a nice shooting fiber bow, too, and about 130 Euro less. Arif Budiman‘s Turkish bow, that I love and is nicely made, is 200 Euro less. Pricewise, in Europe this bow is significantly more expensive than a Grozer Persian Biocomposite or a Vegh Short Sipahi/Fetih or even the great Que Yue by AF Archery (considering shipping and taxes). These Turkish style bows (laminated) are outstanding and have a longer max draw. In my opinion, Simsek bows are too expensive for what you get. From my experience, short bows are (always) a bit demanding.
sure, its like with a camera you can get a great Sony or a Leica. Sony will be better in this or that, but a Leica is a Leica :)
2.4 pounds increase between 26" and 27", then 3.9 lbs between 27"and 28" and 2.2 lbs between 28" and 29" . Something looks weird and impossible here .
yeah I know, might have been my way of measuring it. Need a better scale for that
@@ArminHirmer You could come back to brace height before each measure .
@@jme104 sometimes scales need to be recalibrated / renewed / resetted.
otherwise the values readed might be confusing...
@@Simsekbow Some are not confusing, they are impossible .My comment is not a criticism of your bow, just astonishment at the numbers displayed .
@@jme104 sorry if misunderstood. but in another review this bow was measured to have a "~840 grams" weight. that was why we referred as "confusing" and mentioned tools may need recalibration as you also mentioned as "come back to brace height before each measure". you are totally right about the force-draw curve... thanks....
slow bow
Turkish bows are slower with 10 gpp weight arrows but it's designed to shoot insanely light arrows like no other bow can, so u can flat shoot farther (more accuracy)
I am happy with 220fps :D nobody will shoot a Turkish bow with 10gpp arrows anyway
@@Daylon91 It seems korean and turkish design is similar. The differences seem to be korean bows have shorter brace height and the handle has a different grip.
@@Daylon91 It also seems korean bows are design to draw a little bit long because I notice korean archers go all the way back but turkish archers stop at their ears
Agree. A very Slow bow. Iv tried a local bending fiberglass Turkish bow with 10gpp here in Indonesia and got 170-180fps.
Erster
Merry Christmas