Scarborough's Downtown Station | Scarborough Centre | Station Focus
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Line 3 remains my favorite line, despite the fact that it is long past its expiry date. No matter how tired and decaying it is I will still love it til the end.
I love it too, and I know how much it could have been
But why?
rip
I wonder if once the line gets decommissioned, the above ground tracks can be repurposed as a linear park, in the molds of High Line Park in NYC. would be a wonderful addition to Scarborough, and likely cost the same as having to tear all the structures down
At 4:39 you ALMOST caught the major problem with the STC and the station - when STC went through remodel in 2014ish, they removed the entrance across from the GO platform.
That's where all the food is. Used to be management office, LensCrafters / optician, and a few other stores, and access to it was very useful.
Fun fact. I believe some Greyhound coaches used to stop at the TTC Terminal directly, meaning that if you arrived there, you can use the TTC fare free.
Yep!
A beautiful station. Too bad we're going to lose it in the coming years.
Disagree. The station is a dirty concrete monstrosity that looks extremely outdated.
@@mike-yk4yk it is the design style that is used in the 70s. It is definitely bad looking compared to different style.
Nah the surrounding area is beautiful but not the station itself.
@@on9francisyu yeah that style makes things feel depressing
While i will miss line 3, it is a outdated relic and doesn't have the capacity that Scarbrough needs. with the new subway extention, maybe they will put a roof top garden in the RT's place. Also their is the Durham-Scarbrough BRT project, which would require increased capacity at Scarbrough town centre, something the RT can't handle.
The RT could definitely handle more people! It just hasn't been upgraded! Look at the SkyTrain!
If nothing else, it can also be turned into a cycle path. Making a "highway" of sorts that would be great for longer distances.
@@RMTransit isn’t the RT and sky train non-compatible.
@@Kishanth.J I think you missed the to point. TTC Kennedy station tight turn. + Elsemery station both turn is too tight.
TTC choose Driver operated trains with Air conditioning.
Mean while the Vancouver choose Computer control at Operations center. For train Driverless. Without Air conditioning.
upgrade model in 2000 Generation 2 Air conditioning bi interconnected 2 cars.
2009 Generation 3
2019 Generation 4 interconnected cars.
Train are longer 4 cars = 6 card from old train cars (1985)
The ride quality and sounds started to be issue in 1993 with monthly weekend closer started in 1994.
Old 1985 train wasn't design well. Worn-out tracks cause excessive noise.
Track is being damage.
Capacity is limited. .
Vancouver made the SkyTrain / MONORAIL a Circle back.
Up until 2 years ago if a drunk dude passout on the SkyTrain would end up at Commercial Broadway Twice. On upper platform 2 or lower platform 3 In 40 minutes.
I personally called it. Mickey mouse circle. Round and round. Until closing time.
I really do like the livery design of the Go Transit busses
Can't wait to see your updates on the new SC station once it begins construction :)
We need to build more city Center so we don’t have all the people to go to downtown.
It will probably take 10 years
Of course!
I'd love to see line 3 turned into an elevated bike lane or something similar because it could have some uses for it that require less maintenance though it will probably end up getting removed though
this station is such a good representation of the Scarborough aesthetic, just grey concrete stacked on grey asphalt and grey sidewalks
It pains me to think about the closure of Line 3, as I grew up in that part of Scarborough. Lawrence East was my starting point to get to downtown Toronto or Scarborough Town Centre. So many memories... The subway extension seems cool but doesn't have the same charm as the elevated line.
What would be a better option for furter expansion of Line 2? Merge with Line 4 at McCowan to create what is basically Line 1 turned 90 degrees, OR meet Line 4 at McCowan and have it extend northward while line 4 is extend eastward?
He did a whole video on this lol
Merge with line 4 at don mills you mean?
Stay tuned for a video on this
Honestly I'm kind of disappointed by the loss of Line 3. This sounds kind of dumb, but it would hav been cool to have an interchange with 3 lines (Kennedy station, Line 2, Line 3, and the Eglinton Crosstown).
If I remember correctly, we still may get that interchange, but only for a little bit
you still have Kennedy GO stations.
@@Kishanth.J I guess, but it's not exactly the same
I just hope Kennedy get a renewal, it can use a fresher look.
Yeah maybe for a little bit.
When Line 3 closes are there any plans for the defunct infrastructure? Will the elevated structures be demolished?
It's not clear but the elevated structures will probably be removed, I do think a busway could be beneficial but once the subway is open it will be less valuable
Scarborough center is the most used and popular station on line 3 SRT because it's close to the Scarborough town centre mall north or it and the bus terminal east of it for GO transit and other bus companies like the defunct Greyhound bus. Sad to see it go in 2 years time. But the station did it's time and its outdated.
So much grey concrete. Wet dream of a soviet town planner.
Hands down the best station on Line 3 aside from Kennedy lol
I actually think my second favorite is Midland
@@RMTransit hard to determine my second favourite because I’n rarely on that line. I guess… Ellesmere? Lawrence East? Midland??
I actually really like the platform area. It reminds me of Berlin a bit for some reason.
Word says that Durham Region Transit will be extending westbound service on Ellesmere Rd towards Scarborough Town Centre on a new bus route, when they SHOULD be extending it on the already existing 900 instead.
We shall see!
That would be amazing.
I have a feeling that this Line 3 will relocate operations onto the upcoming Ontario Line
This seems like a much fancier version of Clackamas Town Center in Portland lol.
Are you going to do a video on the new Smart Track Station project. It sound intresting.
It's unfortunately not really a thing
@@RMTransit what do you mean?
Scarborough is the most neglected of all the Toronto boroughs. Especially transit wise. Scarborough RT closing will impact an immense amount of people and the replacement subway extension will take up to a decade to build.
You should really talk about Glasgow's Subway and talks about expansion--which has stopped since 2018
Do you think Glasgow have good or bad transportation
I will eventually ;)
@@on9francisyu I think it is wonderful. But they just need to add new lines. The modernisation projects are also really good
Would you have planned Sound Transit Link Light Rail expansions that are currently being built or soon to be built differently (cough cough, too much elevation in places in my opinion)? How and why?
I'd probably have done them similarly, I'd actually probably elevate more too! The surface sections are not too common and without them the system could have far more capacity.
@@RMTransit ok well maybe it’s the railfan part of me tainting my opinion on this lol
liked video
It seems like the TTC could have spent money better if they added a subway extension that wasn't so close to an existing line to the point where the existing line would be removed.
The thing is, Scarborough RT (Line 3) was already set to be replaced by “something” since it has a few major problems on its own. They can’t buy new trains to replace the nearly 40 year old rolling stock since the cars of the current Bombardier (now Alstom) Innovia Metro sets are too long to navigate the tight curve at Kennedy station. And that curve can’t really be rebuilt without a lot of money (more than what the line is worth) and a long period of service disruption. So when the line 2 extension to Scarborough was proposed, it basically solidified that “something” I mentioned earlier
Rebuilding the curve def wouldn't have costed more than the line is worth
the whole reason the subway is expanding IS to replace the RT line.
I clicked on this video thinking it was about the original Scarborough, Yorkshire
Haha. Sorry it is a lot worse. Many English speaking places just steal the names from England.
Nope, Toronto!
Clicked on this thinking it was about Scarborough, North Yorkshire 😂
why don't they just renovate line 3 by replacing the tracks, building a shelter to protect it from the weather & replace the lrts with the new lrts that they are going to use on the eglinton line instead of building a entire new extension to line 2? wouldn't it be faster & cheaper to do it that way? with all the $ saved they could then use it extending line 3 or line 4 which needs a extension to make sense
Scarborough city Centre nickame call Scarborough town
Why not renovate it instead of demolishing it?
This station is served by the most bus routes than any other TTC subway stations. It's small and outdated and cannot accomodate additional bus routes. So that's why they are replacing this with a Scarborough subway extension with the Scarborough town centre and McCowan and Sheppard stations having large bus terminals.
I wish they did
Are they really demolishing this line, doesn't make sense to me, we in Montreal are building one of those for 6 Billion, I hope we don't tear it down in a measly 30 years
It has nothing to do with how old the line is. The TTC can’t purchase any new cars because they are not manufactured anymore, there is only so much repairing they can do with a 30 year old service fleet till they become unusable or it doesn’t make financial sense to fix them any longer.
@@Bumbleberry6595 they could purchase new ones :/
@@RMTransit that’s so odd, on the TTC’s website it says they can’t maintain service on line 3 due to the age of their vehicles. They make it seem like they can’t purchase new vehicles.
@@Bumbleberry6595 the Skytrain in Vancouver and Scarborough RT were the same technology and rolling stock. Vancouver has managed to upgrade their rolling stock just fine. Toronto has chosen not to update the line and rolling stock instead