Jenna's testimony and returning, with her family, to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

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  • @tazdelp1248
    @tazdelp1248 Год назад +70

    I feel like we're inundated with 'Why I Left the Church' stories so it is awesome to see this channel. I feel there are many more 'come back' stories than one would imagine. Thank you for this channel!

    • @bjtaylor4360
      @bjtaylor4360 Год назад +2

      I feel the same way ,people really need to hear this.

    • @henryponnefz1419
      @henryponnefz1419 Год назад +1

      ALl those people hopefully will be saying later why did I return again to the truth. We just have to pray for them!

    • @Max_Johnson
      @Max_Johnson Год назад

      Roughly 70 to 80 percent of the membership is no longer active. I'm sure some return but most never return.

  • @stephenrgentry
    @stephenrgentry Год назад +36

    Awesome testimonies, both of you. Welcome back Jenna. I'm loving and praying for all three of my children who are grown and not active. Thanks for your words.

  • @harlanurwiler7146
    @harlanurwiler7146 3 месяца назад +1

    This was a very moving testimony that reflects a great deal of struggle. As a member of another religion, I must say that people across the board have similar life experiences in growing up in any faith in terms of their spiritual lives. The Catholic Church rejects the central claims of Mormonism outright. However, we do encourage dialogue with the LDS Church for ecumenical reasons in order to gain a deeper understanding of each other. Wishing you all the best in Christ! 😊😊😊

  • @clairvernon3031
    @clairvernon3031 Год назад +21

    Thank you for your story. As I see others use repentance and the atonement of our Savior, it makes me ever more grateful for his atoning sacrifice and that we can truly be forgiven and move on past mistakes we make.

  • @katbentley7
    @katbentley7 Год назад +8

    I am LOVING this podcast. I grew up in the LDS church and I've never left, always been stalwart.. but this awesome woman said something that I resonated with. I am so happy when I'm at church and at the temple, I feel the Spirit and I love being there, but when it comes to the members of the church I've always felt like an outsider.. felt like people just don't like me and I love that you are mentioning that because you hit the nail on the head for me... been through trauma myself and I have attachment disorder according to previous therapists. I wish so badly I could feel connected and close to my ward members....I wish were like family to me, but alas, I don't know how to break that barrier or overcome the insecurity of people not liking me.

    • @Come.Back.Podcast
      @Come.Back.Podcast  Год назад +1

      Just keep praying about it, I believe you will get there. But I also feel the same way myself. - Lauren

    • @sherylbarry9143
      @sherylbarry9143 Год назад +1

      worked in Salt Lake of all places and there is a group of women members that I worked with that were just vicious people. Also I knew of three people that lived in the area that I knew from another state and never got together for anything. Appreciate the “comeback” group, they are more real and authentic.

    • @sherylbarry9143
      @sherylbarry9143 Год назад +1

      Don’t mean to be negative just saying sometimes members need to reevaluate how they are living the gospel, just like the people that have returned had probably reevaluated their beliefs.

    • @mikelight2008
      @mikelight2008 6 месяцев назад +5

      Good luck to you in being able to grow closer to your ward. I'm a natural introvert and grew up with a separation from the members of the wards I was in. Then I came across the scripture, I think in 1st John 4 that changed my life. It is the scripture that says "We love him because he first loved us." That scripture struck me hard. It speaks, of course, of being the first out of the gate to reach out and love. I realized that if I wanted to become like heavenly Father and Jesus Christ that I would need to develop that willingness to push beyond my introvert nature. It's taken a lot for me to do that but I have found that as I've reached out first and sometimes continually to others, that the words I've been in have gotten better and better. That's not guaranteed because people are people, but most of the time that's made all the difference in the world. My reaching out to my fellow members first and extending a warm caring word or gesture towards them.

    • @paulineharry
      @paulineharry 4 месяца назад +1

      So true ❤

  • @wendyfoster5579
    @wendyfoster5579 Год назад +20

    Great interview!! It is never Christ that wants anyone to feel guilt and shame that is only Satan. Repentance is a coming or turning to Christ. I am so happy you are in a safer place. My husband and I are serving as mission health advisors in the mission field and I have never heard of a missionary staying in one place for their whole mission so that is interesting. Guilt is a good tool as you said but it has to be kept in check.

    • @lukev483
      @lukev483 Год назад +1

      Satan and Jesus don’t actually exist and they most certainly don’t whisper in your ear and push a person to make choices. Everyone wants to blame either Jesus or Satan for their choices, never accepting the blame themselves.

    • @towardcivicliteracy
      @towardcivicliteracy Год назад +3

      @@lukev483 The whole point of religion is actually to accept the blame. That's what repentance is.

  • @shireecox122
    @shireecox122 Год назад +11

    Thank you for sharing these stories of coming back to the Church. It gives me such hope.

  • @elsajensen3896
    @elsajensen3896 Год назад +2

    I loved this. Thank you for sharing your story Jenna - it’s inspiring! Your testimony of the Lord’s hand in your life is so powerful.

  • @sherilynmills6934
    @sherilynmills6934 Год назад +9

    Sister, you are filling me with the Spirit, my eyes are leaking. Joy is overflowing. Thank you for your story

  • @garylipsey3552
    @garylipsey3552 Год назад +5

    Thank you for your testimony of coming back. So inspiring. I love hearing these stories as it gives me hope for my own grown children who are inactive.

  • @Laurentdu59
    @Laurentdu59 Год назад +3

    I like what you both said about reaching out just a little, just what we can muster at the time, and getting so much in return from divine beings (members of the Godhead) and angels! Kolob is so far away and yet They allow our puny arms and our simple prayers to draw NEAR to Them? D&C 88:63, Draw near unto me and I will draw near unto you; seek me diligently and ye shall find me; ask, and ye shall receive; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

  • @SouthernAngel
    @SouthernAngel Год назад +1

    Thank you for your time and sharing in the beautiful blessing that the Lord can and will gather us, no matter where we end up. I am eternally grateful and can relate to all you are saying! All the love. You are not alone in feeling not good enough or feeling alone because of the actions of others. It happens. I think the Lord knows this. He rescued me too. You are so not alone

  • @VAATAUSILI4139
    @VAATAUSILI4139 Год назад +1

    Bro's & Sis's please, keep up the good works, & forever thank our ETERNAL PARENT'S, for the video's; & wow! amazing testimony from the Sister.

  • @thedailydump7407
    @thedailydump7407 Год назад +4

    My younger brother was accused by his mission president of a moral sin 1 week before his scheduled return home at the end of his mission. When he told the president that he had not committed this sin, the president accused him of lying, and said that he had a revelation that my brother was guilty. He received a dishonorable discharge and had to buy his own plane ticket home. He was not angry, but rather sad and confused. Soon after he left the church stating “if the mission president can have a false revelation, then how do we know all the other leaders are not having false revelations?” That was nearly 20 years ago, and he has not returned. Very neat and spiritual guy.

    • @henryponnefz1419
      @henryponnefz1419 Год назад

      He will!!!

    • @StarShippCaptain
      @StarShippCaptain Год назад +2

      Sad tale. Hope he can learn that a leader in the Church is not the Church. Leaders can make mistakes; Christ alone was sinless, without error. If he can accept that, and increase his CHARITY for those who offend him, he can overcome these stumbling blocks. Charity is the key. "Charity Never Faileth." Presiden Kimball revised that quote. He said, "Charity never failieth-Never!"

    • @sagegallagher
      @sagegallagher 4 месяца назад +1

      I'm so sorry that happened.

    • @trainguy7261
      @trainguy7261 2 месяца назад

      Sounds like that mission president was judge, jury, and executioner. What happened to your younger brother was wrong. Not knowing all the details, I have never heard of someone receiving revelation that someone was guilty and calling them a liar. I pray your brother heals one day and comes back.

  • @shireecox122
    @shireecox122 Год назад +5

    What can parents do to help their children who have left the Church?

  • @davidchoate512
    @davidchoate512 Год назад +2

    Thank you for this podcast : very beautiful ending to these stories .

  • @henryponnefz1419
    @henryponnefz1419 Год назад +2

    Thanks a million times!

  • @kerstinklenovsky239
    @kerstinklenovsky239 Год назад +10

    I wish this lady every good thing.

  • @Max_Johnson
    @Max_Johnson Год назад +1

    50 minutes. YES!!!!! Love love love!

  • @deanchappell1314
    @deanchappell1314 Год назад +2

    Has anyone noticed the many spiritual experiences of those coming back as opposed to those leaving?
    As for answering hard questions... Jesus has all the answers. That being said, he doesn't usually spoon feed all the information to the individual, but rather will guide you in your studies. How intent are you in knowing the truth? Offer up a broken heart and a contrite spirit - be willing learn at any age or stage in your life. We live in an age of miracles.

  • @Jace28142
    @Jace28142 Год назад +4

    I’m relating to your story and feelings in so many ways. I’ve always felt like a square trying to fit in a circle. Thank you for your story.

  • @ramsrnja
    @ramsrnja Год назад +1

    We loved in the pre-mortal life. Thanks for sharing your story about remembering Saturday's Warrior 😊

  • @nanetteiglupas7838
    @nanetteiglupas7838 Год назад +6

    Thank you for sharing this story

  • @lemjwp1756
    @lemjwp1756 Год назад +4

    Love her story! I returned not long ago after many years in the world. Coffee was hard!

  • @estherlewis7458
    @estherlewis7458 Год назад +2

    Jesus Christ said, Follow me.
    John 10:27-29 ?My sheep hear My voice and I know them and they follow Me.

  • @tpbarron
    @tpbarron Год назад +1

    She is an awesome girl! Thank you for sharing!

  • @bjtaylor4360
    @bjtaylor4360 Год назад +1

    Love Saturdays Warrior. It brings tears to my eyes. I have both copies. You give me hope for my inactive kids( who are adults) to come back one day. They don't hate the church, so that's a plus.

  • @Bopot71
    @Bopot71 Год назад +6

    Great story. Thanks for sharing!

  • @VAATAUSILI4139
    @VAATAUSILI4139 Год назад +1

    I love all, the video's, amazing. I forever thank our ETERNAL PARENTS, the Brothers & Sisters, returned to CHURCH.

  • @Laurentdu59
    @Laurentdu59 Год назад +7

    About some of the negative comments, I heard something just a few days ago but I can't remember on what video... Essentially, the "A Bible, a Bible, we already have a Bible" argument. Do you worship the Bible? We certainly shouldn't worship the Book of Mormon, or the Bible, or any scripture. Sounds silly but that's how critics of the Church come across sometimes, and pretty vehement when making their anti-LDS arguments in person.

    • @DrDoerk
      @DrDoerk Год назад +2

      I worship God and his word

    • @LightWalker22
      @LightWalker22 Год назад +1

      The Mormon god does not exist.. wake up.

    • @millennialfalkon
      @millennialfalkon Год назад

      @@LightWalker22 what is the Mormon God?

    • @LightWalker22
      @LightWalker22 Год назад +1

      @@millennialfalkon The 100% unbiblical Mormon god once was a mortal man, lives near a star called kolob, likely has many many wives that bare billions of his children, and is the literal father of Satan, and the Mormon god “ironically” teaches Mormons can become gods EXACTLY like Satan desires to be a god! Mormonism literally worships a false god.

    • @StarShippCaptain
      @StarShippCaptain Год назад

      @@millennialfalkon You can read about the "Mormon God" in the New Testament. Jesus came to do the will of His Father. That is the Mormon God.

  • @ramsrnja
    @ramsrnja Год назад

    I love your point that you realized you needed to fall.

  • @villainrack
    @villainrack Год назад +1

    "If he did all that and he's STILL going to the celestial kingdom that gives me hope" 😂 that's very similar to the feelings I have always had about it! Not at all to diminish those who are struggling with that part of church history

  • @theincrediblerodofiron304
    @theincrediblerodofiron304 Год назад +4

    Great video, Ashly. This is why when those antagonistic against the church poke fun the the “burning bosom” conversion. Its not about the burning bosom. Its about faith, humility and the holy ghost. If there’s a burning bosom then so be it. Conversion into Christs Church comes in many ways.

    • @DrDoerk
      @DrDoerk Год назад

      @@Cyrusmagi 100%

    • @StarShippCaptain
      @StarShippCaptain Год назад

      I experienced the spiritual fire in my chest on my mission when I took everything I believed to be true, from growing up in the Church, and asked if it was true. The answer was immediate. I said to myself, "I didn't create that. I couldn't create that." In retrospect, I learned why it was so immediate: I was on a mission, and need to have a spiritual conversion to do my work.

    • @ramsrnja
      @ramsrnja Год назад

      ​@StarShippCaptain Thanks for sharing your experience. I felt the same feeling when I was in the Temple, and prayed to Father in my mind if he loved me.

  • @ThreeD.s
    @ThreeD.s 11 месяцев назад

    I hope i can convey my thoughts without rambling. First I want to commend you, Jenna, for not losing your testimony. But I think you walked a path you needed to for a couple of reasons. To meet your hubby for one!! For another, to be “free” from the tentacles of your childhood. So you could heal and return.
    Sometimes people with certain personalities, I feel, need to leave the church (not that we want them to) to be “released” from the pressure living the gospel gives sometimes. I want to yell and scream “don’t go so far away you get lost!” Then when they can come back, it is their “choice” to live the gospel. Our church does require action and commitment and sometimes it is pressed hard upon us. Especially in your youth maybe because children are most likely not going to “choose” to go to church 😜. This day and age, the trend is ‘do what I want or be who I want’! So the pressures are strong and different.
    Here I want to say that we are definitely being sifted wheat from tares! Satan is unleashing All his tricks! We must be careful to hold fast to the iron Rod. Having a faith crisis is not necessarily a bad thing. If a person is truly searching, they’re gonna come back because this is where the fullness of the gospel is. I have loved listening to Pastor Jeff because it has only strengthened my knowledge and testimony of the truth. We must each have our own independent testimony to make it through the ‘mist of darkness!’ Another thing is to listen to what’s important!! If the Book of Mormon is true, then Joseph was a true prophet! Was he perfect?! Nope! Neither are the leaders today because they are human beings. So don’t get caught up in ‘men/women’s imperfections!’ They don’t make the gospel untrue! Christ was the only ONE who was perfect.
    Lastly I wanted to answer one of your questions. The BEST thing a parent can do for someone in faith crisis is to Love them where they are. The worst thing they can do is disown their child, which I could never do!! All of us for that matter need to love our fellowmen where they are, ie doubting, LBGTQ, etc. I’ll say an exception is those who are truly evil. Heavenly Father loves us all and we need to do the same.❤

  • @Carina902
    @Carina902 Год назад +1

    Tomorrow is my youngest son birthday become a young adult, he havent born yet, when i already doing service to this LDS church!! to day i tell the truth story, becuse my childrens keeps asking me!!! They are wondering that i never feels the elders (missionary) are stranger, but its well known to me!!!. 😊😊😊.as they are feels at first time meeting the elders (missionary) they are so stranger to them!!!.. ...So now they knew why im so closed to the church LDS community member, This story i never tell, what ever peoples stalking,i dont. cared,becuse i know and GOD knows, everything,

  • @davidchoate512
    @davidchoate512 Год назад

    We start to worry about what other people think of us instead of what the Lord thinks of us.

  • @bubba7665
    @bubba7665 Год назад +1

    Beautiful testimonies. Thank you.

  • @michaelshurtleff5037
    @michaelshurtleff5037 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you for letting people talk :)

  • @PeoplesCareClub
    @PeoplesCareClub 11 месяцев назад

    Keep on doing great work sisters the church true nothing in this world can came close to it .

  • @kristastrong
    @kristastrong Год назад +2

    I am very familiar with the 80s Saturday's Warrior! I love that cheesy film! 😄

  • @waikikibeach08
    @waikikibeach08 Год назад +1

    Thanks Jenna and Ashly.

  • @kimhaughton3771
    @kimhaughton3771 Год назад +4

    Awesome faith promoting story!!! Thank you for doing this podcast! ❤️

    • @carolinecampbell39
      @carolinecampbell39 Год назад

      Each one of your videos is amazing! Any chance I could contact Jenna?

  • @danielwerner5017
    @danielwerner5017 Год назад +1

    Thank you

  • @SioneMoeaki
    @SioneMoeaki Год назад +1

    thank you so much, Dusty Smith, that was so awesome. I'm currently serving a mission with my wife, [couple missionary] in Papua New Guinea Port Moresby Mission. As I was listened to your podcast I was touched and gain more courage and strength from your stories and comments about your 26 yrs of anti LDS. Thank you so much for your stories.

  • @krisward2366
    @krisward2366 Год назад +2

    Proverbs Solomon speaks to his son about false religions labels them as the strange women; the strange women was 1 that practiced false religion false Gods .For her oath leads to death none that go to her return too the paths of life . LDS is the strange woman they have who Jesus is wrong therefore they are false. Jesus is God

  • @Max_Johnson
    @Max_Johnson Год назад +1

    17 minutes. Scrupulousity is religious perfectionism.

  • @mckenziemitchell6044
    @mckenziemitchell6044 Год назад +2

    ❤❤❤

  • @wjutjck1
    @wjutjck1 Год назад

    On the wall behind Jenna is a Poster? that says "Life is Beautiful" I love that saying. I also watch a VLOG of an Italian couple who use that phrase Life is Beautiful as one of their Vlog phrases.

  • @nonrepublicrat
    @nonrepublicrat Год назад

    Jenna, how did you defeat the cancer?

  • @shireecox122
    @shireecox122 Год назад +3

    The anti Mormon’s tell us not to listen to our feelings. Like if we the Spirit through Church music, then we’re just having good feelings, not feeling the Spirit.

    • @millennialfalkon
      @millennialfalkon Год назад +1

      Yeah. As if love or conscience is completely irrelevant.

  • @wjutjck1
    @wjutjck1 Год назад

    I loved Saturday's Warrior - that is from my youth. I grew up in the 1970's and 1980's.

  • @Jace28142
    @Jace28142 Год назад +2

    11:09

  • @lauries.nicewaner3876
    @lauries.nicewaner3876 Год назад +2

    If you have not watched Saturday's Warrior yet, you've got to see it. I recommend buying it. I've watched it the first time with my husband in 2016. My husband died of pulmonary fibrous in 2017 and I've watched it several times since then and it has had suc h a deeper meaning. Yes, it's a cheesy movie but it's also a beautiful, spiritual experience. ✨️

  • @patriciadumont7059
    @patriciadumont7059 29 дней назад

    Its torture to parents who watch their children ruin their lives. Its a miracle and answer to years of prayers when they work to come back. Its a grieving progress without promises. 😢

    • @Come.Back.Podcast
      @Come.Back.Podcast  29 дней назад

      That is why it was necessary for Jesus to perform the atonement. So that we ALL can have a way home.

  • @ktiotns2008
    @ktiotns2008 Год назад +3

    Hey, can you ladies see about getting Wayne May on? If you watch his archeological lectures on RUclips, they are fascinating. I would love a q&a with him

  • @davidchoate512
    @davidchoate512 Год назад

    That’s what upsets me about a lot of even Christian churches who let the rapist go and does not hold the rapist accountable for the monster he is .

  • @oldskola3634
    @oldskola3634 Год назад

    22:34 Saturdays Warrior is so cringe to me now, but I used to love it as a kid hahaha

    • @Come.Back.Podcast
      @Come.Back.Podcast  Год назад

      same

    • @patriciadumont7059
      @patriciadumont7059 29 дней назад

      I've always loved it. The music is phenomenal. It is a "story" simplified and sugarcoated but the message is real and has helped many. It's about repentance.

  • @paulineharry
    @paulineharry 4 месяца назад

    It seems like the natural man wants to look good and be right

  • @Irvingdector
    @Irvingdector Год назад

    🤍

  • @paulineharry
    @paulineharry 4 месяца назад

    You might like to follow Allie Duzette in your psychotherapy field

  • @avenged1110
    @avenged1110 Год назад +9

    The Mormon indoctrination and manipulation is breathtaking.

    • @lukev483
      @lukev483 Год назад +6

      It truly is. It has made many very unhappy people.

    • @theincrediblerodofiron304
      @theincrediblerodofiron304 Год назад

      Oh, gosh. Ive been around this church for 50 years. I’ve seen real indoctrination and manipulation in many organizations. Both religious, political and secular all around the world first hand. Im taking about things from human trafficking to communists regimes. The LDS church doesn’t even come close to actual indoctrination and this manipulation you speak of. The life and teachings of Christ is real. And the dark side of human suffering from drug addiction to wars is real.
      The LDS church is solid it what it claims to be.

    • @avenged1110
      @avenged1110 Год назад +3

      @@lukev483 really? You are either "gaslighting" or you truly have no clue...
      ignorance certainly is bliss for the Mormon apologists
      Mormonism is and has been nothing but pure deception from the beginning... and it continues horrifically right now today in real time.
      Those who have honestly and integrity can go directly on the Mormon's very own website and search under "gospel topic essays". These essays prove the deception clearly...
      Even though the Mormon church has now admitted (though extremely whitewashed) these things ... they still don't teach their missionaries or children or investigators that Joseph smith had 34 plus wives, many of them teenagers as young as 14, sister combinations, mother daughter combinations, and even women still married to other living men... and they won't teach them the book of Abraham literally has nothing to do with the papyrus Joseph used to "translate" it - in fact the papyrus dates 2000 years AFTER Abraham was alive AND they mention NOTHING about Abraham in the least - they are proven simple Egyptian funeral documents.
      All Anyone Honest has to do is study All the "gospel topic essays" on the Mormons own website - and make sure you read all the foot notes too. The fact The Mormon leaders still won't teach their children or their missionaries or investigators about these things proves they are STILL covering up, deceiving and outright lying to the world about who they ACTUALLY are and who they have ALWAYS been since day one... charlatans. ... only now the Mormon leaders are documented, verified proven liars of Mormon history, doctrines and finances. They are proven liars, and Satan is the father of all lies.
      May God bless you with the REAL Mormon truth. As Jesus said. "The truth will make you free."
      Honesty and Integrity are far more precious than proven lies designed to make you feel special and important.
      Jesus is enough

    • @lemjwp1756
      @lemjwp1756 Год назад +8

      Millions of happy ones too. You can't make it so black and white.

    • @avenged1110
      @avenged1110 Год назад +4

      @@lemjwp1756 umm .. sorry .. but lying is "black or white"... you either are a liar or not. Hello..
      Mormonism and it's leaders are documented, verified proven liars period.
      Just as 2+2=4 ... the TRUTh is the false Mormon prophets are documented, verified proven liars of Mormon history, doctrines and finances, they are proven liars. Satan is the father of all lies. You unfortunately have been sorely deceived by these charlatans and willfully and blindly follow proven liars.
      The truth is just that ... the Truth. Nothing you say changes the fact you're leaders are proven liars and Satan is the father of all lies ...
      So so sad yet so revealing.
      Jesus is enough

  • @DrDoerk
    @DrDoerk Год назад +5

    She went back to that cult?
    Didn't she realize all the contradictions that the BoM has with the Bible?

    • @juliejenkins3572
      @juliejenkins3572 Год назад +1

      Don't worry

    • @lukev483
      @lukev483 Год назад +5

      It’s hard to leave a cult. Cults have their death grips on their subjects. People are easily manipulated by their emotions and experiences.

    • @DrDoerk
      @DrDoerk Год назад +2

      @@lukev483 that is very true

    • @capybara39419
      @capybara39419 Год назад +4

      "Live and let live" comes to mind. She's happy and at peace, and has every right to choose her life. Antagonism and rancor toward someone only hurt those expressing such sentiments.

    • @lukev483
      @lukev483 Год назад +3

      @@capybara39419 maybe but still living with the cult grip on you will eventually wear on her. It always does. The cognitive dissonance can become to much.

  • @AlbertJLouie
    @AlbertJLouie Год назад +5

    When you seek answers from the Book of Mormon instead of the Bible, God can't help you because you have turned your back on Him. Therefore this leaves the door open for Satan (II Corinthians 11:14-15) to step into your life with a false christ or prophet "showing you signs and wonders" to lead you away from the real Jesus of the Bible who is God the Son 2nd person of the Trinity. God Himself warns us about this in MATTHEW 24:23-24 "Then if anyone says to you, Look, here is the Christ! or There! do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect..."
    Mormons teach and believe that their jesus is the brother of Satan, which contradicts what God says in His Bible that Jesus is God the Son 2nd person of the Trinity.
    So Mormons, which Jesus do you believe in?
    A). Your jesus of the Book of Mormon who is the brother of Satan.
    OR
    B). The Jesus of the Bible who is God the Son 2nd person of the Trinity.

    • @dianakyan7932
      @dianakyan7932 Год назад +2

      Matthew 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

    • @DrDoerk
      @DrDoerk Год назад +2

      You are completely correct!

    • @lemjwp1756
      @lemjwp1756 Год назад +2

      You're ridiculous. LDS believers seek and love God. And you don't get to say who does and doesn't know the Lord.

    • @DrDoerk
      @DrDoerk Год назад

      @@lemjwp1756 the God Christian ls believe in is different than the one that Mormons believe in.

    • @AlbertJLouie
      @AlbertJLouie Год назад

      @lemjwp17 But not all who say they are of God.
      MATTHEW 24: 23-24 "Then if anyone says to you, Look, here is the Christ! or There! do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect..."
      Therefore God gives us all the right to test anyone/church claiming to be of God. Hear what God Himself says about testing in I JOHN 4:1 "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.."
      So I'm not judging anyone. I have a right though to make sure they are of God.
      The Mormon church doesn't like to be tested. So they cry: your judging me, persecuting me, that's your interpretation. Instead of responding with truth.