DIY Repairing & Replacing Rusty Floor Pans | EP9 RUSTORATIONS: 1972 Chevy Nova

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    The floor pans on Our 1972 Chevy Nova are in rough shape and we need to repair and/or replace them. In this DIY job we tackle everything from a to z: cutting, welding, fitting, rust removal, and everything in between. This job requires skill, time and effort I truly believe anybody can do this! Because here is the kicker this is my first time doing this! But having never done this we are going to make a LOT of mistakes... don't worry we are here to share them with you so you don't make them as well. Here is "How to repair and replace your floor pans" tips, tricks, techniques and tools.
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    00:00 Episode Preview Floor Pan Repair and Replacement
    01:06 Plan
    02:24 Tools, equipment and materials
    03:19 Spot Welding Vs. Butt Welding
    04:16 Removed fuel and brake lines
    04:25 Removing seat belt bolts
    04:48 Removing doors on a car
    05:02 Cutting original floor pans out
    06:30 How to remove spot welds (center punch vs. drilling out)
    08:50 Separating Metal Panels
    10:00 Removing spot welds
    12:29 Cleaning up spot welds
    14:15 Cutting floor pan with original template
    15:42 Use of Butt Welding Clamps
    16:16 Treating Rusty Metal
    21:35 Prep metal for painting with Lacquer thinner
    22:28 Wax and Grease Remover before Paint
    23:05 Weld through primer (which one to use)
    23:24 Analyzing melting point and boiling point
    24:30 Where to use copper weld through primer
    25:15 Prepping your floor pans for installation
    26:28 Spot welding floor pan
    28:40 Compressor comparison (noise, capacity, efficiency)
    30:00 Welding floor pan
    31:05 Wife helping with cutting the floor pan
    32:25 Rust proofing, applying ospho, Epoxy primer
    34:50 Wife using air hammer
    35:45 Epoxy primer spray paint (usage, benefits)
    37:49 Full face mask required
    39:31 Eastwood Chassis Black (usage, benefits)
    41:50 5 Tips for Welding Floor Pans
    42:05 Tip #1 Understanding the integrity of the metal
    43:15 Tip #2 Tight fitment is key
    43:27 Tip #3 Filling large gaps
    44:12 Tip #4 Heat is Key in Welds
    45:06 Tip #5 Have a Decent Welder (Toolium 3 in 1 welder)
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  • @davidbrown-55
    @davidbrown-55 5 месяцев назад

    Looking great for the first time. Couple pointers, try clecos for clamping and do all your metalwork then sandblast the shell then epoxy prime. I know it’s not a 100 point show car but makes it a lot cleaner and easier to work on.

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад

      Good pointers will keep that in mind thanks. Been thinking about clecos for a while but never used them will pick some up

  • @billgeorge7804
    @billgeorge7804 3 месяца назад

    A pleasure to see it done properly, the attention to detail, prep work shows the work of a true pro.

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  3 месяца назад

      Hah I don't know about a true pro as this is my first time doing this but I gave it my best for sure. Some godawful welding but funny enough I was working on the car today because found another patch under the back seat and man so much easier to weld now. Practise helps for sure. Thanks for the nice comment if your curious we just released the roof video on this car... One hell of a job

  • @Eldude350
    @Eldude350 5 месяцев назад +1

    The name of the game is to get it done, safely and as best as you can! Like I say, once done, you won't be able to see it sitting in the driver's seat!, haha Nice video and keep them coming my friend!

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks Gerry your the best hope your car is moving along now my friend. Well said as always!

  • @Domenshow
    @Domenshow 5 месяцев назад

    As another viewer mentioned, flux core runs hotter than traditional solid wire MIG. Its a bigger price jump with getting a bottle of some MIG Mix Gold but you can run some nice short circuit welds on thin stuff and even get into some spray transfer for thicker materials (depending on how high your machine can go) When going to MIG having both surfaces clean is important as well, if they are dirty and painted you risk porosity (those tiny bubbles you mentioned in the video) which is contaminants in the weld.
    Its looking great and i look forward to watching these as they come out.

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад

      That is awesome advice Adrian thanks man I will keep this in mind. Writing down all these tips I didn't know for future applications. Thanks man!

  • @G0LDIE.
    @G0LDIE. 5 месяцев назад

    Really enjoying ur videos on your nova i have a 70 nova in similar condition and need to replace the 4 areas ur doing and it will b my first time replacing floors so it helps watching ur video as a guide.I look forward to see the progress u make as u continue to restore ur car.

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад

      Hi Goldie glad you are enjoying the ride. That's cool you have a nova and are planning on doing the same thing. Yeah I really recommend using as much new metal as possible because old rusted metal is a pain to deal with. I've done quite a bit work since this and the later stuff just goes so much smoother. Especially when it comes to floors. But yeah happy to hear your joining us. What's the story on your car?

  • @Alexandre_Ng
    @Alexandre_Ng 5 месяцев назад +1

    Really well done. Accessible and educational! Looking forward to seeing the next steps.

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you for the kind words much more to come

  • @Modify21
    @Modify21 2 месяца назад

    Helping me out! I’m restoring a 1973 Nova along with you! Posting soon!

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  2 месяца назад

      Awesome to hear man glad to hear others taking on the fight as well! New vid every 2 weeks on the series thanks for the comment keep me updated how it goes

    • @Modify21
      @Modify21 2 месяца назад

      @@SubdivisionAuto will do! New to posting but will try to get as much as I can!

  • @chuckirwin7334
    @chuckirwin7334 5 месяцев назад

    I baught some of the same tools as you did made life a lot easier glad to see you back at it looks awesome 😎 slow and steady wins the race, hardest thing for me was plug welding took me forever to get it right.

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for the kind words Chuck. Glad to hear someone has been through this and got it done gives me hope. Yeah the plug welding took me forever... but I finally got it now. Unless you do this for a living its tough to just know how to do it. Thanks for the message cheers brother

  • @chelsierobertwoolley8666
    @chelsierobertwoolley8666 5 месяцев назад

    Use .024 MIG wire and shielding gas argon/CO2 mix. It'll help a ton with welding and less clean up bc it doesn't splatter as bad. And the gas cools the weld at the end of a weld with a function built into the welder I think it's called post flow. And creates a more corrosion resistant weld. Great job so far!!!

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks man. I have been struggling with the flux core I did it for 3 months, so you will see some other projects. I am even going to do the quarters with it because I knwo there are others who will do this so I want to show how hard it is. That said I will try gas for the other quarter to compare. Someone recently told me fluxcore burns hotters, which makes sense why it's so hard, and why nobody wants to use fluxcore. Mind you being new I didnt know this. Thank you for the tip and watching really appreciate it.

  • @BluegrassHiker
    @BluegrassHiker 5 месяцев назад

    I have a 70 Nova and having the right tools to do a job will save you tons of time and frustration. Love this series. Glad you found your car and have got into the truly rewarding part of the process. Best of luck!

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you enjoy the series. Yes the tools were a big part but now that I have them it's much easier. Still have a long way to go to match any quality the pros are doing but it's coming along. 70 Nova right on, what specs do you have and whats the story on the car?

    • @BluegrassHiker
      @BluegrassHiker 5 месяцев назад

      Always loved Novas. Had a 74 in high school but always wanted a 68-72. Looked for months to find the one. I'm the 3rd owner all original sheet metal, never rotted or butchered. Needed tons of mechanical work but is about original of a shell as you can find. At this point I've touched every nut, bolt, wire, etc. Drove it all over the US on roadtrips and Power Tours. @@SubdivisionAuto

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад +1

      Wow thats awesome rare to find one that hasent had the floors or quarters at least patched up, thats a survivor. Very cool story thanks for sharing enjoy the car! @@BluegrassHiker

  • @boatnut64
    @boatnut64 5 месяцев назад

    I used a fluxcore mig welder for years... I'll never do that again (for body metal) Fluxcore runs much hotter than a gas mig. I now run a gas mig, with .023 wire... Works way better... Wish I had done that 35 yrs ago... Keep up the great work... (I'm doing a '72 Nova, myself).
    ❤❤❤

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад

      Oh man this is such a useful comment I didnt know this. Really glad to hear this. Thanks for this tip and thats awesome about the 72. Whats your plan on your car?

    • @boatnut64
      @boatnut64 5 месяцев назад

      @SubdivisionAuto Almost total restoration. It's an #s matching car, that's original, right down to the hubcaps (it's been in the family, since the late '70s)
      I did work on the quarters, some 35 yrs ago. I bought it from my cousin, when he finally realized that he couldn't afford to have it restored (he is not a tool friendly guy)... I'm a little torn on the idea, that it should stay original. The #s matching engine, is an inline 6, and I feel like it deserves a V8... We're a ways from having to make that decision, so I'll cross that bridge when I get to it... 👍👍👍

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thats awesome man glad to see you restoring family history@@boatnut64

    • @boatnut64
      @boatnut64 5 месяцев назад

      @@SubdivisionAuto I'll send you some pics, if you're interested.

  • @scario64
    @scario64 5 месяцев назад

    Just finished watching this Tutorial...it was amazing, candid and very thought provoking. I thought it was excellent, and yes sometimes it does take a while to learn different techniques in welding. We have all gone through that phase and never stop learning. Overall great job can`t wait for the next one.

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed the video man, always appericate your support. This one is a little rough but they do get better as they go. Thanks again!

  • @johnnyduplantis
    @johnnyduplantis 5 месяцев назад

    Fantastic video Max. I'm exhausted just watching you work. Can't wait for the next chapter!

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад +1

      Hah yeah it is exausting work indeed. Glad you enjoyed it thanks for watching my friend

  • @chuckirwin7334
    @chuckirwin7334 5 месяцев назад

    If this is your first time fabing and welding I'd say you got it down, smart tips and tricks that gives me idea, excellent job looking forward to more videos.

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks man. Not first time welding but first time doing sheet metal. Much harder than just welding some thicker gauge material. But yeah learning

  • @carthageclassiccars
    @carthageclassiccars 5 месяцев назад

    Man thanks so much for the shoutout!!! I love the videos and really into your story, the honestly in it and process of learning. Keep doing what your doing!

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks man means a lot. Some godawful work compared to you my friend but we'll get humpty dumpty back together again. Going to try to get into the shop more soon hopefully amp up the releases I can only swing one every 6 weeks at the moment. Congrats again your success your channel is awesome!

  • @seanc2862
    @seanc2862 5 месяцев назад

    Great work man, fingers crossed there's no more 'holy sh!t moment's.

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад

      Indeed a holy shih tzu moment for me ! Those darn floor pans too waaay too long was a little out of my wheelhouse to say the very least. I'm sure there will be more but moving on. Thanks for dropping in brother always good to see ya Sean

    • @seanc2862
      @seanc2862 5 месяцев назад

      @@SubdivisionAuto lessons learned for what's ahead! you got this man!

  • @dannyschubert9853
    @dannyschubert9853 4 месяца назад

    You can connect the air tank of your old compressor with the new one, increasing the air capacity!!

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  4 месяца назад +1

      Oh no shit you can daisy chain them? Never knew that that's brilliant. This may be one of the most brilliant comments

  • @CalebGibbsAvenue
    @CalebGibbsAvenue 5 месяцев назад

    Wow, don't you love cinematography of welding. It's my favorite thing. i do a lot of it. (Meaning i weld) You can turn down your iOS and your speed and turn up wb. Im not vary Analytical on the camera settings. But you can probably get some really nice close-up shots of welding. Zoom in on the material, or you'll guff up your len$. I do short form videos all the time.
    You captured my attention in the beginning. All was entertaining. The products reviewed were well mentioned. I actually enjoyed your experiences lessons. Some how manged to keep me engaged. Thanks for not overly pushing safety . Loving the personal touches and Honesty.
    Like the noises of the compressor... your wife's experience with that grinder was Legit😂. Maybe have her weld. cut off wheels are something I'm scared of. But i don't use the gard. I took a cut out of my leg last year.
    Your explanations of a butt joint was funny to me. Or it's just the subject 😂throwing me off guard.
    Literally have nothing to add. Id stik to the same template. The process was smooth and fulfilling.
    I was slightly beaten up with the length of the video. Buttttt don't sweet it. You can't just start cutting out value. It's just a thing to mention.
    I can bor you more, but these thoughts might help most.
    Im seeing your future.
    Write of those tools. it's the best business expense. You are a business even if you've not made a profit.
    But you know that I'm sure.

    • @CalebGibbsAvenue
      @CalebGibbsAvenue 5 месяцев назад

      If you're still having trouble welding that thin stuff. I might be able to add a tip, but it looks like you figured it out, so it's workable.
      Whire speed needs to be vary slow. Best to have it plenty hot but not so hot it melts a hole upon contact. Try to Jump sid to sid as you travel.
      The Whire should lay down a dime of weld if it's hot enough.
      And a ball of weld if it's too cold. to hot is basically over penetration. Best to stay on the hot sid
      Wire speed can directly effect the pushing power. You only want enoughwire speed to create a filler.
      The heat is the real property of welding.
      As the material gets up to temp you will have to Lengthen your pause period.
      Just focus on not melting through.
      Practice on old material. Till you find the settings of low filter and the weld is hot enough, it looks like a Puddle of molten metal.

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад +1

      Hey sometimes you gotta stop and smell the roses right? Or in this case get showered with flaming metal pieces! Yeah decided to do some cinematography, trying to keep it interesting as I can which is why it takes me so long to make one of these videos (this video took 8 weeks total to produce). Yeah I do plan to show more welding but now that I got better at it rather than where I was at here. Safety isn't always my strong suit when trying to get work done but you will see me get burned for this down the line.
      I am trying to keep it honest to make up for lack of experience. I know I will probably get chewed by some but I get it all the others guys on youtube are pros. Regardless it's about the journey. Oh man not using the guard, wild man. I've seen a couple people almost get killed by this, one of which is my dad. Its always in the way but I just dont want to take the chance. This template is what it is going to be for the rest so im glad you like it. Trying to help all the other newbies out there so they dont have the same issue as me.. or if they do they can overcome them quicker than I did.
      Yeah we are doing some accounting with tools as it looks like I may be doing this for a living more or less. You will see less between the wheels and more of this after the next Rustorations ep. Going to be a 1/1 ratio since people seem to really like this.
      Thanks for the advice as always and for watching!

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад +1

      Great advice thank you I still have a long way to go! Will keep this in mind glad your a good welder always like hearing new tips.. @@CalebGibbsAvenue

  • @francismcinnis5995
    @francismcinnis5995 5 месяцев назад +1

    You might want to check out fitzees fabrications. He has great videos on welding. Cut and but.

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад +1

      Oh yeah he's awesome I actually watched his video as he did one on a nova. Should have done what he did a replaced the whole piece rather than the stupid patches. Lesson learned there took way more time in the end... Thanks for the suggestion great channel

  • @Adventureoutdoors.
    @Adventureoutdoors. 5 месяцев назад

    What would be example of not worth restoring? thinking of restoring a scout that sat for years some of body is very weak mainly back but front is very solid

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад

      Frame rails being gone. Since it's the hardest point if that's soft then likely the rest of the car is done. But even then you can still save it as long as the inner structure, roof strucutre and pillars are good. But at that point its a huge project where you will need a frame jig and its a lot of $$$

  • @whereswadlow44
    @whereswadlow44 5 месяцев назад

    Instead of a stripper disc to do metal work, use roloc style 3m cubatron 80 grit grinding discs. Project is coming along tho. 1 bite at a time

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  5 месяцев назад

      Thats an idea. Ill pick some up and do a comparison in the floor stripping video. Thanks for the tip

    • @whereswadlow44
      @whereswadlow44 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@SubdivisionAuto if you are doing plug or lap joint welds the backing metal should be prepped flush (ground flush and clean) so that you patch can lay as tight as possible. Remove any paint from the weld area, I saw you used weld through primer 👍👍

    • @whereswadlow44
      @whereswadlow44 5 месяцев назад

      You can also use the cubatron discs to grind down your welds

  • @eddievantailn2882
    @eddievantailn2882 4 месяца назад

    What happen with Nova project? Do you plan to continue?

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  4 месяца назад

      Still going took a really long time to film some videos but you will see them next. Was suppose to come out Friday but we had a death in the family and we decided to bump the video back and release my father in law's charger video which was dedicated to his dad. But good news is the nova videos are going to be going from every 6-8 weeks to every 4 weeks. So we are going to be reducing the amount of between the wheels EPs from a 2-1 ratio to a 1-1 ratio. I was going to make a video to update people but just haven't had the time yet. Sorry for the delays lots of being on but LOTS of nova stuff coming :)

    • @eddievantailn2882
      @eddievantailn2882 4 месяца назад

      Very sorry to hear that. My sympathy for your loss.@@SubdivisionAuto

    • @SubdivisionAuto
      @SubdivisionAuto  4 месяца назад

      @@eddievantailn2882 thank you much appreciated