Mage is definitely S tier. It has shield that makes it tanky, teleport twice, CC, ranged with amazing burst and basically no cooldowns, no mana to manage, can cast while moving, crazy range. There is no downside to Mage they have range, beefiness, crazy burst, cc, mobility, shields, knock backs, about the only thing mages don't get is a dedicated healing skill to also spam while running around and heal themselves to full...
I aggree with you. Mage is absolutely more balanced than Shadow. I'm Shadow player, yes we have burst but if mage survive that burst, I can never win aganist Mage. He hits good, he has shield, he's movement is very good.
I play Shadow Swordsman on NA. Currently top 40. I think Warrior is up there in S-tier. Whenever I play with a Warrior on my team, the game seems so easy to me. And likewise, the hardest games I play are against Warriors. This may be me struggling against the class, but it's just how it feels to me. Good list anyways. I like it.
As a Shadow Swordsman our stealth is so easily countered by just walking backwards when you see us stealth because it only lasts 10 sec and has 25+ sec CD. All you have to do to counter us is CC when we pop our opener and then we have hardly any damage for 30+ seconds while mage always has high DPS and is ranged. Yes we have crazy high damage but so does every other melee they can all solo a person easily especially barb it's crazy and paladin AOE stun screws swordsman over so much.
Warrior has felt S tier this season. Over here on NA, currently #1 runnin Warrior-Bard-Ice mage. Got 9999 with ~84% win rate. What are your thoughts on the current duration on buffs in the Arena (Bloodlust, Wild Music, Power Infusion)?
Bard healer, Warrior and Mage are underrated in this tier list by far. If warrior weren't such an unpopular class selection in-general there'd be way more of them. Congrats on the rank, you play that warrior REALLY well and carry your team.
As a Gladiator that played a lot of arenas I can agree with Spid in general. Priest DPS is A class for me, because I play against skilled DPS Priest and they manage pretty well. And maybe Priest heal is not C tier, just the worst of B tier too. The rest is pretty accurate, Necro heal and Assassin are just performing better than the others. While Priest heal and ranger are usually underperforming.
I can tell you as a priest dps in arina, I most likely do top dps + that burst helps a lot in combination with silence and shild I will put priest dps high A tier.
I agree bro...but I think assasin should be a tier on its own..lol it one shots..yeah tanks needs buff...in group PvP they should be useful...just make "Nah bro " tier for tanks...
They don't practice enough on the Training dummies. If you want to be good, you have to put the work in.. There is no quick fix. Even, if you swipe your card.. Gear will only take you so far.
This is very good video! THANK YOU VERY MUCH! NEW SUBSCRIBER HERE! BTW, could you make a video/guide dive down deep on class ULTIMATES etc and how they should be played well in your opinion.. That would be great. I have not seen any video that talks about ultimate and I think that's the most important part in PVP.. thank you!
Warrior > Barbarian. Has a 4 second stun with insane burst. Priest DPS should be A tier. It's insanely strong if coupled with a strong melee. Priest Heal should be next to bard heal as well. It might be predictable but it's got a great kit.
Assasin is not above barb, myb poision assa but duelist wich 99 percent of players are is not broken. It has insane burst, but needs 3 globals for it, if you cc him in that period he is out of game for 45 secs, no dmg at all. Also you mentioned stealth, atm it is skill thst you dont want to play. There is no slot for it, you have to play blink, paralize and healing reduction. Stun from stealth can be removed with any basic movwment skill like blink from mage. You wont see any duelist at rank1 spot, myb poision one wich has faster burst and more overall dmg but cannot 1 shot you. So far only classes that are outperforming are barb and necro.
Tanks being useless in pvp is really sad, you can still do "ok" in battlegrounds if your team is ok and the enemy team is bad, but other than that, its almost as if you are playing with one less player on the team. 3v3 you can bring cc and thats it, if the enemy focus on you and you team manage to nuke their healer, then you can win, especially if you have a healer on your team(but thats hard to do, with only 1 dps), but all they have to do is to forget the tank and focus on the dps/healers, and its just a matter of time before you die. I feel that tanks in pvp are in a really hard spot now, if they give the tanks buff in pvp to make the cc more efficient in pvp, they may be broken, but if you do nothing, then its just a dead weight.
I tried in PvP all classes and I have 5x 40s vanguard and above and tried them in arena and tried other classes but deleted them as well not because they are not good just wanted to try other classes. I have to disagree with 75 % of your tier list and I play arena too. One thing we agree on yes Shadow is OP and necro healer is very very strong borderline OP too rest of it but rest of your tier list are wrong!
@@dsn3001 Out of 4 melee: I say Yes S tier would be shadow A tier would be berserker and pally but only with right comp and B tier would be warrior ( yes I do play warrior too, it's just not that great only melee class without any range ability, yes decent DMG but getting kited a lot ). Healers: S tier would be necro healer A year would be Priest and B tiar would be Bard ( yes I'm aware I put bard in B tier cus it's the easiest healer to kill ) Range DPS : S tier would be Mage and Ranger ( Yes ranger does generally more dps but easy to kill however is literally the easiest class to play When it comes to rotation and doing DPS surviving as ranger a bit hard, Mage does a little less fps than range overall not by much but have better survivability (mobility) than ranger ) A tier would be Priest DPS and necro DPS Several reasons I put them in A tier because they are range and range classes generally better than melee in this game. However I'd say priest DPS is hard to play due to specific rotation burst not just smashing buttons like some classes and you need to be aware that you can off heal at times... I'm not saying DPS priest is hard to play but harder than a mage or ranger. Reason I put necro DPS in A tier is the same as priest because it range but in my opinion is one of the hardest range classes to play due to a bit of complex rotation and some of his ultimate like you can port but then you need to be aware you can port back within 4 sec... yes it's extremely hard for A LOT of players. Now is the short version: S - Shadow duel spec, Mage fire spec, Ranger both specs, Necro healer( not in any particular order ) A - Mage frost spec, Bard DPS, Berserker DPS ,Pally DPS, priest DPS , necro DPS, Priest healer( not in any particular order ) B - Warrior DPS, shadow cunning spec, Bard healer ( Not in any particular order ) C - berserker tank, warrior tank and pally tank ( Not in any particular order ) I based this list for Arena only Tank would be a bit higher for bgs or world PvP but arena tanks can provide buffs cc but DMG is not there which is a good thing because I played a lot of MMOs where tanks do way too much DMG and live way too much so it's ruining PVP Id say tanks need some kinda like 4-5 sec ultimate to transfer like 40 % DMG to them from an ally. Like if tanks can put buff on ally so then can transfer up to 40 % DMG from ally during 4-5 sec .. or gibe absorb to ally from one of their skills or talents or intercede to ally and give ally 20% mitigation for like 3-4 sec I let devs balance that out.
Accurate tier list, however I disagree with the statement that you can just enter PvP (Arena) and be viable/do well immediately. PvP rank matters a lot. A bunch of Privates or Seargeants ain't gonna even tickle a Dragon Knight
In arena, i dont think Shadow is S Tier. Reduced crit rate makes his combo about pure luck. I cant kill anyhealer without minimum 2x crit and thats all about luck. In battlefield, im crushing people but arena makes Swordsmans so weak. Damage,hp,defence is not same equal crit rate. Healers are the king of Arena.
@@zachreilly8266 If you dont crit, you cannot one shot 32k HP. There is no way without crit and if you cant kill him with burst, you can never kill too.
barb is S tier for me broken and braindead jsut press W and spam macro and ur enemy dies even with a support of a healer plus tanky af even with shadow swordy full burst cant even kill them on challenger elo
This tier is with a good team comp, otherwise shadow swordsman is shit if playing with randoms. Cause if he jump in and can’t burst someone it’s game over. His cool downs are so long and range just kites and kills him. Without his ultimate or 4th skill he’s useless and cool down on 4th skill is ridiculously long compared to other classes
Mage is great, that’s why he is A tier. But Assasin and necro are just performing better than others. But well, mage is possibly the best ranged option
I think it's hard for someone to judge a class when they haven't played it. Sure when an assassin one shots you everyone says "Nerf it". The reality is it's easily countered. Nobody is saying why do range classes have blink/teleports etc? There are ranged classes who should be managing their positions. The whole point of assassins is to get in and kill a key player and get out. Our cooldowns are way higher than most classes and we are only really a threat for 8 seconds in every 60.
Tanks are shiet in pvp. I don't know why people still use them in arena lol. Maybe if they make glancing work in pvp, they'll become an annoying class to deal with.
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Mage is definitely S tier. It has shield that makes it tanky, teleport twice, CC, ranged with amazing burst and basically no cooldowns, no mana to manage, can cast while moving, crazy range.
There is no downside to Mage they have range, beefiness, crazy burst, cc, mobility, shields, knock backs, about the only thing mages don't get is a dedicated healing skill to also spam while running around and heal themselves to full...
@@ShaunDYST now the meta is nuclear meta, so basically the tier is around who deal most damage in a short time
I aggree with you. Mage is absolutely more balanced than Shadow. I'm Shadow player, yes we have burst but if mage survive that burst, I can never win aganist Mage. He hits good, he has shield, he's movement is very good.
@@burocksmoke dang, u cant one shot everything
@@ruirodrigues2938 why not? After burst Shadow is nothing aganist others. I must 1 shot and escape. Thats the mechanics of assasins.
Mage downside is being close range and brawlers will dive you down.
I play Shadow Swordsman on NA. Currently top 40. I think Warrior is up there in S-tier. Whenever I play with a Warrior on my team, the game seems so easy to me. And likewise, the hardest games I play are against Warriors. This may be me struggling against the class, but it's just how it feels to me. Good list anyways. I like it.
Phantom necro also has a bug with their break free. When it’s fixed they’ll be even better
As a Shadow Swordsman our stealth is so easily countered by just walking backwards when you see us stealth because it only lasts 10 sec and has 25+ sec CD.
All you have to do to counter us is CC when we pop our opener and then we have hardly any damage for 30+ seconds while mage always has high DPS and is ranged. Yes we have crazy high damage but so does every other melee they can all solo a person easily especially barb it's crazy and paladin AOE stun screws swordsman over so much.
Warrior has felt S tier this season. Over here on NA, currently #1 runnin Warrior-Bard-Ice mage. Got 9999 with ~84% win rate. What are your thoughts on the current duration on buffs in the Arena (Bloodlust, Wild Music, Power Infusion)?
Bard healer, Warrior and Mage are underrated in this tier list by far. If warrior weren't such an unpopular class selection in-general there'd be way more of them. Congrats on the rank, you play that warrior REALLY well and carry your team.
Great video ! Keep up the good work
As a Gladiator that played a lot of arenas I can agree with Spid in general. Priest DPS is A class for me, because I play against skilled DPS Priest and they manage pretty well. And maybe Priest heal is not C tier, just the worst of B tier too. The rest is pretty accurate, Necro heal and Assassin are just performing better than the others. While Priest heal and ranger are usually underperforming.
I can tell you as a priest dps in arina, I most likely do top dps + that burst helps a lot in combination with silence and shild I will put priest dps high A tier.
Which Priest spell do you use to silence ?
@@terranceb6517 there is an ultimate skill called " silence"
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I agree bro...but I think assasin should be a tier on its own..lol it one shots..yeah tanks needs buff...in group PvP they should be useful...just make "Nah bro " tier for tanks...
Buff PALADIN!
What Bard silence are you talking about ?
Could u post ur list in comments? Hard to follow the video
Can you do a tierlist for easiest classes to play? I see people struggle with doing dps and rotations in endgame especially on bard and melee classes.
They don't practice enough on the Training dummies. If you want to be good, you have to put the work in.. There is no quick fix. Even, if you swipe your card.. Gear will only take you so far.
I am playing as necro dps , it def missing something in against other classes. Rogue and hunters always can solo kill.
This is very good video! THANK YOU VERY MUCH! NEW SUBSCRIBER HERE! BTW, could you make a video/guide dive down deep on class ULTIMATES etc and how they should be played well in your opinion.. That would be great. I have not seen any video that talks about ultimate and I think that's the most important part in PVP.. thank you!
Warrior > Barbarian. Has a 4 second stun with insane burst. Priest DPS should be A tier. It's insanely strong if coupled with a strong melee. Priest Heal should be next to bard heal as well. It might be predictable but it's got a great kit.
Does priest dps have a reliable stun ? I haven’t noticed. Usually just run shield, break free and speed boost
the interrupt works as a silence, if you go to warlike talents you can check the extra description of the talent
Do you have an updated pve tier list?:)
Assasin is not above barb, myb poision assa but duelist wich 99 percent of players are is not broken. It has insane burst, but needs 3 globals for it, if you cc him in that period he is out of game for 45 secs, no dmg at all. Also you mentioned stealth, atm it is skill thst you dont want to play. There is no slot for it, you have to play blink, paralize and healing reduction. Stun from stealth can be removed with any basic movwment skill like blink from mage. You wont see any duelist at rank1 spot, myb poision one wich has faster burst and more overall dmg but cannot 1 shot you. So far only classes that are outperforming are barb and necro.
Spid can you make an update for best class for different situations like best dps, tank, healer and ect.
hey Spid, we need an assasin guide! :)
spid, can you please give me what ults to use as barb in low rank and mid rank? cant seem to escape silver 😢
Tanks being useless in pvp is really sad, you can still do "ok" in battlegrounds if your team is ok and the enemy team is bad, but other than that, its almost as if you are playing with one less player on the team.
3v3 you can bring cc and thats it, if the enemy focus on you and you team manage to nuke their healer, then you can win, especially if you have a healer on your team(but thats hard to do, with only 1 dps), but all they have to do is to forget the tank and focus on the dps/healers, and its just a matter of time before you die.
I feel that tanks in pvp are in a really hard spot now, if they give the tanks buff in pvp to make the cc more efficient in pvp, they may be broken, but if you do nothing, then its just a dead weight.
100k+ crit in bg with my SS, on target below 25% hp tho so it's over kill but so fun haha
Hope they do sumthing about tamed rangers, it is so sad for us in pvp lol
are u in the top 100 arena pvp?
Soooo did you stop making content for tarisland ? Where the pve tier list at no one is makikg any is the game already dieing ?
@SpidMMO You have build for warrior ?
Hey bro possible know warrior skill tree and military spell and passive many option feel good but hard to rlly find the best
Wheres ur new pve Tier List Bro :)
I tried in PvP all classes and I have 5x 40s vanguard and above and tried them in arena and tried other classes but deleted them as well not because they are not good just wanted to try other classes. I have to disagree with 75 % of your tier list and I play arena too. One thing we agree on yes Shadow is OP and necro healer is very very strong borderline OP too rest of it but rest of your tier list are wrong!
What changes you would make in the tier list?
@@dsn3001 Out of 4 melee: I say Yes S tier would be shadow A tier would be berserker and pally but only with right comp and B tier would be warrior ( yes I do play warrior too, it's just not that great only melee class without any range ability, yes decent DMG but getting kited a lot ). Healers: S tier would be necro healer A year would be Priest and B tiar would be Bard ( yes I'm aware I put bard in B tier cus it's the easiest healer to kill )
Range DPS : S tier would be Mage and Ranger ( Yes ranger does generally more dps but easy to kill however is literally the easiest class to play When it comes to rotation and doing DPS surviving as ranger a bit hard, Mage does a little less fps than range overall not by much but have better survivability (mobility) than ranger )
A tier would be Priest DPS and necro DPS Several reasons I put them in A tier because they are range and range classes generally better than melee in this game. However I'd say priest DPS is hard to play due to specific rotation burst not just smashing buttons like some classes and you need to be aware that you can off heal at times... I'm not saying DPS priest is hard to play but harder than a mage or ranger. Reason I put necro DPS in A tier is the same as priest because it range but in my opinion is one of the hardest range classes to play due to a bit of complex rotation and some of his ultimate like you can port but then you need to be aware you can port back within 4 sec... yes it's extremely hard for A LOT of players.
Now is the short version:
S - Shadow duel spec, Mage fire spec, Ranger both specs, Necro healer( not in any particular order )
A - Mage frost spec, Bard DPS, Berserker DPS ,Pally DPS, priest DPS , necro DPS, Priest healer( not in any particular order )
B - Warrior DPS, shadow cunning spec, Bard healer ( Not in any particular order )
C - berserker tank, warrior tank and pally tank ( Not in any particular order )
I based this list for Arena only
Tank would be a bit higher for bgs or world PvP but arena tanks can provide buffs cc but DMG is not there which is a good thing because I played a lot of MMOs where tanks do way too much DMG and live way too much so it's ruining PVP Id say tanks need some kinda like 4-5 sec ultimate to transfer like 40 % DMG to them from an ally. Like if tanks can put buff on ally so then can transfer up to 40 % DMG from ally during 4-5 sec .. or gibe absorb to ally from one of their skills or talents or intercede to ally and give ally 20% mitigation for like 3-4 sec I let devs balance that out.
Warrior on USA is always number 1 with 9999 challenger lol so try telling him that, vanguard is not that high haha.
Top arena team on NA1 is war tank, bard heal, frost mage....
assasin is not S tier, he is SS tier, too op need some nerf like they nerf my bard haha
Accurate tier list, however I disagree with the statement that you can just enter PvP (Arena) and be viable/do well immediately. PvP rank matters a lot. A bunch of Privates or Seargeants ain't gonna even tickle a Dragon Knight
Ranking don’t matter in arena only bgs
Its fair Arena, the only things that count are your talents and your pvp talents. All other things are out of the equation
Please do one for pve
In arena, i dont think Shadow is S Tier. Reduced crit rate makes his combo about pure luck. I cant kill anyhealer without minimum 2x crit and thats all about luck. In battlefield, im crushing people but arena makes Swordsmans so weak. Damage,hp,defence is not same equal crit rate. Healers are the king of Arena.
Shadow one shots healers every time. It can solo anyone lol.
@@zachreilly8266 If you dont crit, you cannot one shot 32k HP. There is no way without crit and if you cant kill him with burst, you can never kill too.
you say pvp is super balanced and u make a pvp class tier list? are you ok?
The arena is balanced cus gear don’t matter not that classes are balanced
Every balanced game still has a tier list....
Nice! Pve too plz!
me watching this video as a ranger :(
Healers are S tier, everything else is below that
True especially bard and neco meta preist ain't it
barb is S tier for me broken and braindead jsut press W and spam macro and ur enemy dies even with a support of a healer plus tanky af even with shadow swordy full burst cant even kill them on challenger elo
Assassin is performing better, so Barb is ok at A tier
skill issue
This tier is with a good team comp, otherwise shadow swordsman is shit if playing with randoms. Cause if he jump in and can’t burst someone it’s game over. His cool downs are so long and range just kites and kills him. Without his ultimate or 4th skill he’s useless and cool down on 4th skill is ridiculously long compared to other classes
I agree with everything but personally i believe mage is S tier
Mage is great, that’s why he is A tier. But Assasin and necro are just performing better than others. But well, mage is possibly the best ranged option
@@MrPecman assa should be putt in A tier. You Can easy silence/cc chain him and burst
Yea mage I think needs S tier assassin low S tier. That damage and silence + dmg reduction shield is too strong
I think it's hard for someone to judge a class when they haven't played it. Sure when an assassin one shots you everyone says "Nerf it". The reality is it's easily countered.
Nobody is saying why do range classes have blink/teleports etc? There are ranged classes who should be managing their positions.
The whole point of assassins is to get in and kill a key player and get out. Our cooldowns are way higher than most classes and we are only really a threat for 8 seconds in every 60.
Tanks are shiet in pvp. I don't know why people still use them in arena lol. Maybe if they make glancing work in pvp, they'll become an annoying class to deal with.
Can’t wait till shadow sorcerer is nerfed. Most brain dead class by far
Bard has one silence in pvp, the stun breaks after the target is hit and is also melee range. Very misinformative video sadly
Stupid comments like this are why there are 0 guides out there for anyone in tarisland bc people focus on 1 out of the 99 things that were said lol.