If you have a small amount of RAM, having an SSD largely bumps up performance because when it runs out of RAM, it throws things onto the drive as cache, and so if your cache drive is spinning rust, the slowness effect basically gets multiplied, lol.
I actually debated buying 2 GB DIMMs to see if you could go as low as 4 GB. The 16 GB modules came right before I left for vacation. Big Sur was pretty slow and the CPU kept topping out but it was better.
@@dmug trying with 2 GB is amazing to watch... I used only 2 versions on my mac mini 2010... Snow Leopard server is very fast but has little usage... It uses between 2-3 GB in idle. I'm thinking about downgrading but I don't know which version I should install... Mavericks could be an option I think
I found it quite interesting that you can officially run iPadOS 17 on 2GB of RAM. And its even kind of usable. But iPadOS 18 sadly wont be able to run on 2GB RAM, 3GB is the minimum.
I dunno if I'm calling 'em out but the slang is somewhat hilarious. I imagine when I was 6-7 years old and repeating Ninja Turtle phases like "Gnarly", "Tubular", "Radical" and "Cowabunga", I sounded every bit as cringe inducing. The upside was we just didn't broadcast it as little kids.
The way it is right now would be great for Snow Leopard. Old Mac OS is great with resources and still manages to feel fast even on a hard drive. Anything newer though and you can see how it’ll work better with some upgrades. If my 2012 Mac Mini didn’t have an SSD and 16GB of RAM, there’s no way it would run as smooth as it does now. As cool as it is to see modern macOS on this, it seems like a great system for some older installs also.
It might end up with a stack of older OSes as I use them for vids. My black 2007 MacBook is my snow leopard machine but this could be 10.6 - 10.13. I just need a good sized SSD.
Yeah, with enough storage, these Macs can run just about anything. Very useful for old software, and just old Mac OS X in general. The optical drive is also a nice bonus!
I am running a 2014 Mac Mini with an Apple SSD and a SATA SSD, with Sonoma installed and 8 GB of RAM and it runs fine for web browsing and such. Haven’t installed Adobe Photoshop yet but I bet I’ll run ok. Yes, planned obsolescence, I know
I’m curious to see just how much the RAM is the limiting factor here. I did this to a 2009 Mac Mini that I upgraded to 8GB of RAM, and Big Sur was only marginally less painful than you describe.
Right before vacation I received the 16 GB and it was painful still, just less so. CPUs were still pretty active just idling. I imagine an SSD will make it tolerable.
Yeah, for awhile you could score ECC DDR3 for the Mac Pros about $20-25 for a stick of 16 GB. That doesn't sound like the best deal but at the time it was great.
I love this model especially quad core ones on intel Mac mini/ the make great HD players for media players so you can connect home library and play vlc files make folder as a playlist can send to vlc play it for family members in household and control data usage especially before we had unlimited no data cap package
for Modern mac os you need Minimum 4GB ram and light programms like a Browser. 8GB are way better and 16 are enugh for alomost all you can do an older macs. (exluding the mac pro)
i was wondering if sonoma would boot with that little ram since my 2015 macbook air absolutely struggled and it's got 8gb. to be fair, it does have a very weak i5 processor (its base clock is only 1.6 ghz with turbo up to 2.4 and it's got 2 (two) cores), i'm not its 1st owner, AND i've got a larger capacity ssd in it via an adapter.
I would boot an SSD via usb 3.0 / the power supply is a pain to put back into enclosure/ I missed missed placed my Sata connector for Mac mini/ I went on using a mac5,1 (2009) as my NAS Mac for now
Well ... if you have a newer Mac, just sell the MacMini after you made a video about it with 16 GiB and SSD. There is no need to keep this thing as long you didn't want to build a new workplace somewhere anyway. I got my 2008 MacBook Pro with 1 TB SSD and 6 GiB of RAM running Sonoma and after it indexed the SSD it runs pretty well - just as it did with Monterey. Yeah it is way slower than with Snow Leopard, but hey, at least I have a solid web browser, it runs OpenGL games, it runs KODI - which is not bad utilizing a non-metal-card on a Mac. Btw, the graphics power is better than on Linux with the nouveau driver! At least KODI runs smoother and many OpenGL games simply do not support nouveau. Anyway, honestly I have put away my 2006 MacMini because I don't need it, may be you do this too with yours. All I wanted to do is the Upgrade, just like you did, from 32 to 64 bit, from 1.6 GHz to 2.33 GHz, from 512 MiB RAM to 2 GiB, from HDD to SSD, the only thing it is missing is a newer WLAN card.
I may keep as a legacy machine with 10.6-10.13 installed as it doesn’t take up much space, and it’s faster than my black 2007 MacBook for retro stuff. OS X never as pleasant virtualized as Windows or Linux.
I got a 2012 macbook pro with the i5 i got it to 16gb of ram and 512gb ssd and it‘s quite good for an older version of minecraft with mods or roblox and im going to buy an imac g3 dv tangerine 🍊 this weekend it‘s got mac os 9 but i wanna upgrade it to tiger and 1gb sdram also a 128gb ssd or i got a 256 with windows install which i‘ll probably gonna nuke
On my Mac mini and MacBooks And even iMacs now I use an 2.5” usb 3.0 external HDD sometimes a SSD as a boot swis”-army boot/ clone Mac OS into a new/ use Mac and to check out to see if iMac works before opening it up especially if known has no HDD inside if Mac has usb 3.0 not a problem especially if you don’t want open up right away until you have all parts for upgrades/ ram/ this will be on intel Mac / since unfortunately Apple silicone (silly chips or silly macs are basically iOS devices/ you want ram upgrades pay now you want enternal flash or HDD storage pay for it now exception for Mac Pro
High Sierra ran like a dog due to MRT and Spotlight Indexing; turn those off (via Terminal tricks), and performance will improve considerably. Even so, I would only put El Capitan on a 2gb capped system. For this computer, I would put in those "new" (absolutely used, with new stickers) Chinese ram sticks to get it 8gb, then put on DosDude1's Mojave install cloned to an HFS+ partition (using CarbonCopyCloner5 and GetBackupPro3 found on the high seas), and disable MRT, Spot, and ReportCrash, and re-enable downloading from anywhere. I'll get back 32bit software (read: all the great old games like Peggle and AngryBirds, and utilities like Himmelbar, MainMenu, DriveDx and DiskWarrior). replace Safari with Waterfox, Basilisk, and Chromium-legacy, and run 2024-era software with Windows11 and various Linux distros running in hypervirtualization within Parallels for Mac, where they'll all share commo-room drive storage for desktop and downloads. -- You'll enjoy WAY more software, and won't need an SSD.
I really appreciate this level of thoughtful comment, but this actually assuming I wanted to make this computer usable. I have a follow up dropping where I do get it running Sequoia and I’ll be sure to disable as much as possible. What I might do is install 10.6 - 13 still using open core so I have just one computer that covers 15 years of macOS
I love finding any free music I if I can find the person first and last name for and photos then try sending them their photos of course if any private info I don’t use that against them since I’m not going to do anything with their personal info/
and I thought that the code should be optimized and become faster with each new release. What is the program actually doing if it requires the power of a mainframe from the last decade to display text, and this despite the fact that the rendering is done by a graphics accelerator?
Sequel video is out! - $50 Mac vs macOS 15 Sequoia
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Love your little corner of RUclips, esoteric content that I thoroughly enjoy.
please dont….the skibidi mac mini….imma go kill myself 😂
If you have a small amount of RAM, having an SSD largely bumps up performance because when it runs out of RAM, it throws things onto the drive as cache, and so if your cache drive is spinning rust, the slowness effect basically gets multiplied, lol.
to be honest, I thought you had at least 100k followers, such a good quality!
Thanks, if you watched my first vids from 3 years ago... well, it explains my low views ;)
I installed 4gb 2010 server version without using SSD... Works? Yes. Slow? Hell yeah
I actually debated buying 2 GB DIMMs to see if you could go as low as 4 GB.
The 16 GB modules came right before I left for vacation. Big Sur was pretty slow and the CPU kept topping out but it was better.
I forgot to add. Server version comes with 7200rpm drives... Even them can't handle the OS. New os's wasn't built for HDD's
@@dmug trying with 2 GB is amazing to watch... I used only 2 versions on my mac mini 2010... Snow Leopard server is very fast but has little usage... It uses between 2-3 GB in idle. I'm thinking about downgrading but I don't know which version I should install... Mavericks could be an option I think
I'm so glad you will be doing a follow up video when you get the 16GB of RAM 😂
Yeah, it’ll be more of a SSD + RAM + attempt to run Sequoia
I- I understood *some* of those words, I think…
hey, does the demo mode removal still work?
Linux will run on that well
Probably will do a dual boot with it, likely mint.
@@dmug Mint or Tuxdeo OS would work.
Something light weight like Zorin OS core would work better
yes, it will... and it will make any Mac OS made in the past 6-7 years look like the bloated pigs that they are. Apple has lost the plot entirely.
sad, but we haven't fcpx on linux. wait, we got a davinci!
I found it quite interesting that you can officially run iPadOS 17 on 2GB of RAM. And its even kind of usable. But iPadOS 18 sadly wont be able to run on 2GB RAM, 3GB is the minimum.
the gen alpha calling out was so funny LOL
I dunno if I'm calling 'em out but the slang is somewhat hilarious.
I imagine when I was 6-7 years old and repeating Ninja Turtle phases like "Gnarly", "Tubular", "Radical" and "Cowabunga", I sounded every bit as cringe inducing. The upside was we just didn't broadcast it as little kids.
My old PE coach uses “Totally Tubular” it’s so cringe.
Fascinating!
The way it is right now would be great for Snow Leopard. Old Mac OS is great with resources and still manages to feel fast even on a hard drive. Anything newer though and you can see how it’ll work better with some upgrades. If my 2012 Mac Mini didn’t have an SSD and 16GB of RAM, there’s no way it would run as smooth as it does now. As cool as it is to see modern macOS on this, it seems like a great system for some older installs also.
It might end up with a stack of older OSes as I use them for vids. My black 2007 MacBook is my snow leopard machine but this could be 10.6 - 10.13. I just need a good sized SSD.
Yeah, with enough storage, these Macs can run just about anything. Very useful for old software, and just old Mac OS X in general. The optical drive is also a nice bonus!
I am running a 2014 Mac Mini with an Apple SSD and a SATA SSD, with Sonoma installed and 8 GB of RAM and it runs fine for web browsing and such. Haven’t installed Adobe Photoshop yet but I bet I’ll run ok. Yes, planned obsolescence, I know
dude said skibidi !!!!!!!!!
Just be glad I didn’t say baby gronk
@@dmug should've said fanum tax sigma bbg
I’m curious to see just how much the RAM is the limiting factor here. I did this to a 2009 Mac Mini that I upgraded to 8GB of RAM, and Big Sur was only marginally less painful than you describe.
Right before vacation I received the 16 GB and it was painful still, just less so. CPUs were still pretty active just idling. I imagine an SSD will make it tolerable.
3:03 had no idea aliexpress is that cheap for ddr3 ram, will definitely take advantage of that in future
Yeah, for awhile you could score ECC DDR3 for the Mac Pros about $20-25 for a stick of 16 GB. That doesn't sound like the best deal but at the time it was great.
ok but why did this Mac mini travel more than me
I love this model especially quad core ones on intel Mac mini/ the make great HD players for media players so you can connect home library and play vlc files make folder as a playlist can send to vlc play it for family members in household and control data usage especially before we had unlimited no data cap package
Sometimes I will use other ram temporarily install especially if working on old Mac mini’s love the 2010 model
for Modern mac os you need Minimum 4GB ram and light programms like a Browser. 8GB are way better and 16 are enugh for alomost all you can do an older macs. (exluding the mac pro)
i was wondering if sonoma would boot with that little ram since my 2015 macbook air absolutely struggled and it's got 8gb. to be fair, it does have a very weak i5 processor (its base clock is only 1.6 ghz with turbo up to 2.4 and it's got 2 (two) cores), i'm not its 1st owner, AND i've got a larger capacity ssd in it via an adapter.
I’d be really interested to see if replacing the HDD with an SSD would significantly improve performance and allow Sonoma to work on 2GB of RAM
Game plan is to mess around. Might try that combo
I ran ventura with 4 GB of ram on unsupported, no root patches at first which was so slow
that genz lingo threw me for a loop LOL
Finna get on board bro, 4real 4real.
Awhile ago a friend of mine was showing me memes of things in Gen Alpha speak and it hurt my brain.
sameeee----- DITFP 6:11
Those 2 cushions on the bottom is so you can put 2 fingers in the 2 'holes' in the bottom to twist and open it.
Is it even possible to install Mac OS X dvd retail anymore just for fun / I have the Mac OS 10.6 and would use a clone software/
I swear bro I felt so much pain when u said using an HDD 😭
Curious thing but I did make Sonoma work on the same Mac Mini with OCLP 1.5 although I did so only after I had put the 16GBs in it.
Right before I left for vacation I got 16 GB of ram and while Big Sur was still slow, it did make a difference.
I would boot an SSD via usb 3.0 / the power supply is a pain to put back into enclosure/ I missed missed placed my Sata connector for Mac mini/ I went on using a mac5,1 (2009) as my NAS Mac for now
my Mid 2010 15 inch MBP is very usable on Sonoma with 4GB ram and a 256Gb SSD
Just upgrade it to atleast 8gb it's not difficult especially if your useing it daily
2gigs can’t even boot sonoma and barely runs big sur, but with 4 gigs on a MacBook Air it runs Sonoma like a charm
Yeah you got it up the road without a breakdown service at least…..I bet the fucker could keep your coffee warm during all that eh?
The cpu runs near 100% in Big Sur just idling, it certainly is a hand warmer
Well ... if you have a newer Mac, just sell the MacMini after you made a video about it with 16 GiB and SSD. There is no need to keep this thing as long you didn't want to build a new workplace somewhere anyway. I got my 2008 MacBook Pro with 1 TB SSD and 6 GiB of RAM running Sonoma and after it indexed the SSD it runs pretty well - just as it did with Monterey. Yeah it is way slower than with Snow Leopard, but hey, at least I have a solid web browser, it runs OpenGL games, it runs KODI - which is not bad utilizing a non-metal-card on a Mac. Btw, the graphics power is better than on Linux with the nouveau driver! At least KODI runs smoother and many OpenGL games simply do not support nouveau. Anyway, honestly I have put away my 2006 MacMini because I don't need it, may be you do this too with yours. All I wanted to do is the Upgrade, just like you did, from 32 to 64 bit, from 1.6 GHz to 2.33 GHz, from 512 MiB RAM to 2 GiB, from HDD to SSD, the only thing it is missing is a newer WLAN card.
I may keep as a legacy machine with 10.6-10.13 installed as it doesn’t take up much space, and it’s faster than my black 2007 MacBook for retro stuff. OS X never as pleasant virtualized as Windows or Linux.
i use a late 2014 mac mini with only 4 gbs of ram this sucks
I wouldn’t even bother with the Apple usb dvd drive/ I would go LG especially if you want to rip or play blu-ray
I got a 2012 macbook pro with the i5 i got it to 16gb of ram and 512gb ssd and it‘s quite good for an older version of minecraft with mods or roblox and im going to buy an imac g3 dv tangerine 🍊 this weekend it‘s got mac os 9 but i wanna upgrade it to tiger and 1gb sdram also a 128gb ssd or i got a 256 with windows install which i‘ll probably gonna nuke
If they brought ram upgrades with Apple silly chips I would most likely buy them
On my Mac mini and MacBooks And even iMacs now I use an 2.5” usb 3.0 external HDD sometimes a SSD as a boot swis”-army boot/ clone Mac OS into a new/ use Mac and to check out to see if iMac works before opening it up especially if known has no HDD inside if Mac has usb 3.0 not a problem especially if you don’t want open up right away until you have all parts for upgrades/ ram/ this will be on intel Mac / since unfortunately Apple silicone (silly chips or silly macs are basically iOS devices/ you want ram upgrades pay now you want enternal flash or HDD storage pay for it now exception for Mac Pro
My macbook late 2008 boots with 2gb ram on monteray. I have 4gb installed, but after I took 2gb out the Mac booted with 2gb with ni problems
Interesting, I couldn’t get it installed. I thought for sure Monterey would work.
High Sierra ran like a dog due to MRT and Spotlight Indexing; turn those off (via Terminal tricks), and performance will improve considerably. Even so, I would only put El Capitan on a 2gb capped system. For this computer, I would put in those "new" (absolutely used, with new stickers) Chinese ram sticks to get it 8gb, then put on DosDude1's Mojave install cloned to an HFS+ partition (using CarbonCopyCloner5 and GetBackupPro3 found on the high seas), and disable MRT, Spot, and ReportCrash, and re-enable downloading from anywhere. I'll get back 32bit software (read: all the great old games like Peggle and AngryBirds, and utilities like Himmelbar, MainMenu, DriveDx and DiskWarrior). replace Safari with Waterfox, Basilisk, and Chromium-legacy, and run 2024-era software with Windows11 and various Linux distros running in hypervirtualization within Parallels for Mac, where they'll all share commo-room drive storage for desktop and downloads. -- You'll enjoy WAY more software, and won't need an SSD.
I really appreciate this level of thoughtful comment, but this actually assuming I wanted to make this computer usable. I have a follow up dropping where I do get it running Sequoia and I’ll be sure to disable as much as possible.
What I might do is install 10.6 - 13 still using open core so I have just one computer that covers 15 years of macOS
If i had a mac mini like this, i would probably run ubuntu
I wonder how Linux would do on 2Gb ram
bro give him the break 💀
Sonoma is using 7gb of RAM on my a1993 i3 at idle.
Is it using half of your ram at all times?
I love finding any free music I if I can find the person first and last name for and photos then try sending them their photos of course if any private info I don’t use that against them since I’m not going to do anything with their personal info/
f*ck it. we beach ball
Man I missed that one…. And it was right there.
and I thought that the code should be optimized and become faster with each new release. What is the program actually doing if it requires the power of a mainframe from the last decade to display text, and this despite the fact that the rendering is done by a graphics accelerator?
High Sierra actually requires 2 GB of RAM
Im sorry but you said skibidi disliked
Valid
gyatt that what
No
@@The_Cali_Dude_88 agreed
if only it had an SSD..
Plan is to upgrade it in a future video
good idea!
im 19 and i used to have a do it for the plot wallpaper 😭 nobody says it like diftp tho
my MacBook is so sigma, imma edge to the Ohio (I ain't a psycho, I swear)