IMPORTANT NEWS FOR RICOH GR III USER: Ricoh finally worked with Adobe and Camera Matching Profiles are now available for GR Cameras inside the RAW Developer! This is huge news! Finally! But Cobalt Profiles are still useful for those who want to use certain looks on different camera systems. But GR users should celebrate because you don't need Cobalt Profiles if you want to use Positive Film, Monotone and so on... :-)
Thanks and great! I can see six Camera Matching Profiles in LR for IPad called Hard Monotome, Positive Film, Soft Monotone, Standard, Vivid and Monotome. Are these the GR3 Profiles? How do they compare to the Cobalt GR profiles?
@@hansheiterkeit Yes they are Ricoh GR III profiles! I compared them with the Cobalt profiles and the Ricoh profiles are more accurate I would say. But the strength of the Cobalt Positive Film Profile for example can be changed and the Ricoh Positive Film Profile can't. So you always get 100% of the look of the Ricoh profiles with the official profiles. Which is fine but it is also nice to play around with the amount slider and use the filters more subtle. I like to use 30% Positive Film with my Nikon RAW files for example. But if you only use a GR than the official profiles are almost exactly the same as the jpeg results :)
You are amazing for sharing this knowing it'll cost you financially.
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Gut das ich vor einigen Tagen/Wochen noch deine Presets gekauft habe, wollte sie einfach mal auf meiner GR ausprobieren. Cobalt habe ich schon mal mit geliebäugelt seid deinem ersten Video aber habe noch gewartet, werde mir die Presets von denen auf jeden fall mal zum testen hohlen. Und das Geld das ich für deine Presets ausgegeben habe ist ja auch gut das es jetzt bei dir landet, alleine wenn ich sehe das du so offen damit umgehst. Hoffe das du irgendwann die Camerastraps endlich rausbringst :D
Haha 😂. 7:30 that guy leaved the same comment on my channel when I said about Cobalt Profiles - in how you can get Leica bnw tones on Fuji. I've tried to explain him, but noo... Better talk to a wall. So decided to end the discussion 😎 (but the comment it's identical I believe). Cobalt profiles rules! Saved the color for me for my Sony camera. And WOW... That Ricoh positive effect so nice.
I bought your presets over a year ago and still continue to use them with my Panasonic and even my X100V files. But thank you for posting this. I'll have a look at Cobalt's stuff, too.
Samuel thank you so much I’ve tried to emulate these for years ! Currently I edit my images with a fuji Velvia base, now I will be able to do that with a Nikon Zf or so. Thank you !!
I like comparing profiles to underpainting and presets to sketches. Profiles provide a base vibe and presets are like a rough sketch/idea, it can sometimes be all u need but usually needs a bit of work
Thank you so much for making this video about the Positive Film Emulation, Samuel! I didn't know about this company before. I always wanted my GRII's look for my other cameras because being limited to 28 mm didn't give me enough freedom for other types of photography. I created a LR Preset by myself, but it never came close enough to the original GR's colors. In my understanding the reason therefore is that a preset is always a linear change to a dynamic RAW file. But sensors doesn't behave linearly so that two different sensors can't get the same colors and tones with just statically transducing the parameters from source sensor to the target sensor. It's a bit like playing the piano. The softer you strike a key the sound becomes not only quieter but also more dull and less clear. This differentiate from piano to piano slightly so that you have to adapt the force to the keys accordingly to achieve a similar sound. Did you ever shoot a Pentax body? I absolutely love the colors from my Pentax Q7 with the "Muted" color preset. Unfortunately a more potential Pentax KP didn't give me exact the same results. Maybe Cobalt Image will bring a dedicated package of Pentax profiles that includes a Pentax Q.
I feel so bad! I was literally going to buy your presets lastnight then I saw this video. I spent way more on cobalt-image but I am also now not going to sell my a6500. Thanks for posting this very helpful tip!
Can you use them on capture one express? Or do you have to buy capture one pro?
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I feel that a lot, because I know exactly how such a small shade that you just can't get right can drive you crazy. Yesterday, after 4 years, I managed to find a way to convert a Kodak 2383 LUT including the Arri Alexa Film Matrix for our ProPhotoRGB color space that we use in Lightroom. It was adventurous and a wild journey, but I get it now. Now I'm off to Kodak Vision 3 and then hopefully I'll finally have what I've always wanted.
@@MrWiseinheart No, I don't think so. You have to explain a lot about color spaces and the topic is quite specific. I've done a few more complex and technically deeper topics in videos in the past and apparently no one is interested. It's not worth the effort.
One thing you should be aware of is that you have to buy a Starter Pack for every camera you want to use the GR look on. For example, I used the Pentax K1, the Fuji H1 and a mobile phone on holiday (plus the GR). That means I would now need three starter packs at about 50€ each. Actually even four, if I also want to process the photos of the GR with the GR profiles generated by Cobalt (in the LR development module). Then there are the actual GR profiles for another 50€. I don't find the pricing model very pleasing and a very clear disadvantage compared to presents, which are globally applicable.
Presets can't be globally applicable. Presets apply changes with disregard to colour relationships. E.g. common ones just boost blues, oranges, and desaturates greens. Profiles on the other hand are more akin to a LUT that remaps colours and has some of relationship between them. It's the same reason why you could use Fuji profiles on your RAW files and they all look good with zero corrections, but when using presets, you need to fine tune colours.
I have recently seen your original (or let's say first?) video about Cobalt Image and their profiles. I've been trying to nail a filmic look for years now and have never been 100% satisfied. Then I tried them out, used the Nostalgic Negative Profile that is normally exclusive for the GFX100S on my XPro3 and I've never been more happy. Literally every image is exactly the way I want it to look. These guys do a great job! Also big thanks to you Samuel! Without you I wouldn't have found Cobalt Image and would still be mad while editing - LOL.
I haven't used Cobalt's film emulations but REALLY like DxO FilmLab 6. I still have gobs of Kodak BW400CN I'm shooting from years ago and other than how film handles highlights (bloom) my M240 files look just like my film scans. The beauty of the Cobalt stuff is that it's a profile IN LR...whereas FilmLab 6 is a stand-alone hook in LR...in DxO PhotoLab5, FilmLab is built-in as a profile.
cobalt profiles are kind of fine if you do just slight light/shadow adjustments. otherwise your images will have weird artifacts in shadows and/or highlights. I guess the reason for that is most of the camera related profiles based on cobalt modular which is quite contrasty. It feels like cobalt profiles reduces dynamic range of raw images I haven’t tried ricoh profiles, but fuji profiles does not look similar to original fuji colors.
I agree with you 100%. As a BW shooter I've tried it all on digital, and Foveon and the OG Leica Monochrom have been the best tones I could find, but wanted to use my Leica M240...the Cobalt CCD Monochrom profile is SO good! I start of with an "F7 Linear" profile which gives me a flat image that has much more latitude to start with than any other profile I've found. I think my final output is somewhere between an M246 and a Sigma DP Merrill...and that's not too bad. I also think that an M11 with this would probably give the M10M a run for its money.
i use the ricoh gr digital iii and the colors from the old ccd sensor look like an old painting which in the right light has a unique look and i love it
You mean in camera? It doesn’t matter for RAW files because RAW files will have no filter applied to them. If you mean the standard Ricoh GR color profile then no, I don‘t use that. I only use the positive film and monotone profiles.
Thank you for the recommendation! It's by far the best Positive Film profile I’ve tried so far but you have to bring the amount down to 50% or so to get its full benefits.
I just got the Ricoh pack for my Leica Q2. The positive film reminds of the colours I was getting straight out camera on the original Q which I much preferred over the Q2's. Thanks for the heads up, I mentioned your name when purchasing though I'm not sure that helps you at all?
Excuse my ignorance, but I have to ask this. The emulations u r talking about do they work like the presets or do we have to edit them after we apply them on a photo
Omg. This is the best day. Idk how many people care about this, but I've never loved a simulation as much as og positive film. I'm losing my mind over here.
in adobe lightroom for ipad, i see my default profiles. but they dont have a slider on the bottom to adjust the amount to apply. is that a special feature in some profiles and not in others? I have been looking to get a profile of "positive film" that i love in my GR3 on ipad on my other camera, olympus EM1 mk1, this is showing me how, i'm looking at picking up some of these film packs from cobalt! thank you for this, just exactly what i have been looking for since falling love with positive film!
So glad you have finally found a profile that can express your feelings after trying to do it by yourself for 2 weeks Lol. I think this is how the thing works, sometimes we need somebody's (who is an expert) help to fulfill our need & desire. Also, people like clients, they care about the result. In Samuel's case, he is his own client. Just imagine if he become my or your client and he asked for a GR positive film feeling photography while our camera is not GR, of course we will do the same to get his feeling satisfied.
Five days ago I was in Berlin and at home I was once again annoyed that I can't transfer the positive film look into the development menu. So what could be more obvious than buying your presets? Seeing this video now was funny, of course. I found your presets very close, but I was not so happy with the red/orange tones (but that can be due to a thousand things). I will definitely try this new option and have been waiting for it for ages and it was honestly one of the main reasons not to buy a GR3 as the GR2 positive film look just looks better. Thanks for your relaxed and informative videos!
I feel like I'm going crazy, but I dumped photos onto my laptop and opened in Lightroom only to find that there ARE Camera Matching Lightroom Presets available for a few, at least. Couldn't believe my eyes but from what I can see they have Standard, Positive Film, Soft Monotone, Hard Monotone, Monotone and Vivid. Hadn't seen it announced anywhere so... I'm pretty staggered and think I might be going crazy.
I think you are going crazy haha. I never saw any camera matching profiles for my GR's... That would be a dream! So pleace check and confirm :D I hope you are right lol.
Great video, it made me rethink my approach of editing photos because I edit my photos so heavily and I don't have a particular style, but sometimes I like to try emulate film in my photos, I'm gonna try to keep it simple.
Some photographers have a unique post processing style and it might help having your own „look“ with your images but you can also have your own look by the way you photograph. And when I look back at my own photos from my first years when I started with Photography I can‘t really share them today without feeling embarrassed :) they stand out so much because I was trying so hard to make the photos look better than they needed to be. Simple editing always works best and they age better :)
I think eventually people have to realize there are enough good film looks and color grades to stick to, and the rest has to come from the photos themselves. No sense in making 1000 black and white looks for the sake of being “unique” for example.
I think we've all gone through that phase of trying to find a bunch of presets and profiles, and end up with a collection of 100 of them haha But for me, I've always just wanted the positive film look. There's something about it I can't get over. For black and white? eh I don't really care. They all look relatively samey to my eye.
I'm not a colour scientist, but I I think part of the dynamic range and contrast that is missing from emulating older cameras, is purely that the new sensor is newer. The colour profile can be an exact match, line for line in the encoding, but if the new sensor can read more DR natively the contrast will be slightly different. Those variances will have to be matched by eye. This is what I think makes the bulk of "magic quality" loss for Fujifilm across generations. The reason that the X-T1 is so different to the X-T2 is because it's a shittier sensor, but in a charming way. I like shitty highlight and shadow retention it feels nice and bold. That shit is magic. I haven't tried the GRs across generations, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is part of it. Low pixel density, and designed DR loss mitigation. Same with Canon, because they have notoriously bad DR. /conspiracy theory finished.
It was cool to see that you also raise the mid tone luminance in the colour wheel. ✌️ This is why I think it's good to intensify the whites and blacks a small amount, while softening the highlights and shadows (the opposite). It gives that smooth tone curve roll of early digital, that was probably the method to increase DR on the old sensors, while keeping the crushed/clipped look. I will stop blogging here now. 😂
I totally agree that sometimes perfection gets in the way of certain beauty aspect because not everything in this world is perfect and some unperfect items are more unique and beautiful than the perfect ones. That being said it's nice having different cameras for different purposes, when you need perfection you use a certain camera when you need creativity use a different camera or style.
@@MrWiseinheart I think that's why if I want anyway invested in fuji with lenses, I would just get an X100 and use Nikon or something. 1 stylised look and 1 natural look.
I really like this, I named the presets I created to myself with film stock names for convenience sake but really they don't look much like film ahah, I like to take advantage of the capabilities of my digital sensor but yeah creating your own look is the name of the game, be it using profiles, presets, or whatever
It seems that nothing will not have been like original GR and its positive film effect for you :), completely makes sense for me, as you said it is because of nostalgia, someone told me we only live until our twentie's, after that we only remember❤🌹
One question though: So yes, we have to buy the basic pack then the presets. But do you apply two filters (basic + emulation) or just the emulation one ? It is rather confusing in the workflow. Ready to pull the trigger. Great video Samuel, as usual. "Thats when he realises..." Epic
No, you just apply the profile you want...you have to buy the base pack so that all the profiles understand how to apply themselves to your camera. Like on my M240, I just go straight to "CCD Monochrom>F7 Linear" and it knows it's an M240 file and applies F7 Linear for that camera. I have it for my Sony A100 as well, and my files come out looking the same!
If Ricoh can’t strike a deal with Adobe to integrate profiles directly into their software, what’s stopping them from just releasing profiles that customers can download directly from them, in the same way we need to purchase from third parties? It’s a bit crap honestly 😢
My GRii positive film is really dark and contrasty, all settings are standard. Looks nothing like what I see online, any ideas? Thought the ND filter might be stuck down or something?
Hmm. No Hasselblad. If they could do something that would approach Hasselblad Natural Color Solution I might be interested. They have the most amazing color engine I’ve ever worked with hands down.
It is a little bit confusing on which stuff things to buy at their website I own a GRIIIx and just wanted to get a positive film profile on lightroom mobile. So I need to buy the DNG basic pack (select GRIIIx as camera) first and then buy the Ricoh GR emulation profile?
Yes their emulation profiles only work when you install the basic profiles for your camera first. I agree they should put more information on their emulation packs to make it clear.
Does someone know if the Ricoh GR Profiles work on any other Software than the ones from adobe? I absolutely despise the subscription model from adobe and didn't use their software since then. At the Moment I only have Luminar and RawTherapee. I found Cobalt confusing enough but now I'm even more confused, because over at their website it is written that the DNG Basic Pack works with Luminar and RawTherapee, so I was happy at first. But then I did go over to the section about the Profiles for GR and it is stated that I have to own a ''Adobe DNG basic pack'', but under basic packs there is no Adobe version of it, just the normal DNG basic pack which includes Lightroom but also other Software like Luminar and RawTherapee. Now I'm absolutely dumbfounded and don't know if I can use the GR Profiles without Adobe or not...
I can't get the profiles to show up in Lightroom. I click import, select the zip file (that's what cobalt says to do, but I also tried unzipping and selecting the profiles and importing) it says "17 profiles imported" but they're nowhere to be found in my manage profiles section. Am I alone in this? I don't know what's happening
@@ASiqueira1973 so yea i talked to them. You have to get the basic pack, for each camera you want the profile for. Kind of annoying. It's all pricey 🤣 i was hoping to get one for iPhone, but i have the 14 pro, and the most current they have is 13 pro. But even with 13pro files i can't get it to work. 🤷🏻♂️ but it works for the gr 👍🏻
I am not super familiar with the DxO Film Pack but I had a quick look. Looks like they are offering presets. And nowhere I can find information on how they were made which probably means they were using the editing softwares to create the presets. Cobalt Image should therefore be much more accurate and they can guarantee even results across different systems.
@@SamuelStreetlife for information, this is an extract from the DXO Filmpack 6 user guide. Hope this is seen as useful. Love your channel even though I’ve not got a GR! (Yet!!) “More than 80 high-fidelity analog film renderings DxO FilmPack preset renderings are created in DxO’s laboratories using an exclusive scientific process of exhaustively profiling each film. This process is based on a series of shots of specially-calibrated targets and as well as real-life subjects taken with the film being profiled. The film is then developed by the world’s most reputable processing laboratories, notably PICTO and Arka Lab in France, and Duggal in the United States, and is then subjected to high-resolution digitization in order to measure the film response and to extract the grain matrices. This process has allowed DxO to perfectly reproduce high-fidelity rendering of the characteristic appearance, colors, and grains of 83 legendary films - color negatives, black & white, slide, and instant snapshots. Fuji and cinema digital renderings DxO FilmPack also offers you such preset renderings as the digital simulations of certain analog films available on Fuji cameras, as well as the possibility of giving a cinematic aspect to your images.”
There is no such thing as "your own look", your starting point is always the color science of the camera brand. These profiles essentially are color profiles with their own color science. They're not presets. I have not used these from Cobalt, but when scanning negatives to raw files I use profiles for various film emulsions with the scanner and its software. I'll have to try out the Cobalt profiles.
The beauty thing of the Cobalt profile is that they re-interpret the built in color science of the sensor. Yes, you are getting their "color science" at that point, but they have tried to keep it as neutral and accurate as possible. I'm amazed at what they've done with their "Monochrom" profiles...re-mapping a bayer sensor to "match" what the M9 does is wizardry.
Moin Eric, du brauchst leider noch ein Base Profil für deine Kamera. Das findest du auch auf deren Webseite. Ich hatte es zwar kurz im Video erwähnt aber haben leider viele überhört. Aber damit klappt es dann👍
@@erickessner4362 Es müssten Anleitungen dabei gewesen sein. Du musst die Profile als ZIP datei importieren. Dann eventuell PS oder LR neustarten und dann sollte es bei den Profilen erscheinen.
Anyone else having issues with these profiles? I just purchased them but it wont let me import to the latest camera raw within photoshop, and they don't show up after importing into the latest Lightroom on Mac...
You need to buy the base profile for your camera first and then you can use the other emulation profiles. I know it sucks a but having to buy two things but it only works like that... I thought I mentioned it in the video but probably should have made that clear.
@@SamuelStreetlife ah, thank you - I did hear you say it but being a profile n00b I wasn’t totally sure about the process itself. Appreciate your guidance sir!
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IMPORTANT NEWS FOR RICOH GR III USER: Ricoh finally worked with Adobe and Camera Matching Profiles are now available for GR Cameras inside the RAW Developer! This is huge news! Finally! But Cobalt Profiles are still useful for those who want to use certain looks on different camera systems. But GR users should celebrate because you don't need Cobalt Profiles if you want to use Positive Film, Monotone and so on... :-)
Thanks and great! I can see six Camera Matching Profiles in LR for IPad called Hard Monotome, Positive Film, Soft Monotone, Standard, Vivid and Monotome. Are these the GR3 Profiles? How do they compare to the Cobalt GR profiles?
@@hansheiterkeit Yes they are Ricoh GR III profiles! I compared them with the Cobalt profiles and the Ricoh profiles are more accurate I would say. But the strength of the Cobalt Positive Film Profile for example can be changed and the Ricoh Positive Film Profile can't. So you always get 100% of the look of the Ricoh profiles with the official profiles. Which is fine but it is also nice to play around with the amount slider and use the filters more subtle. I like to use 30% Positive Film with my Nikon RAW files for example. But if you only use a GR than the official profiles are almost exactly the same as the jpeg results :)
ich verstehe das nicht ganz. kann ich jetzt mit meiner griii in LR den positiv film look der gr2 bekommen?
Wishful thinking, but is there any way these can be used with the GRII, like somehow getting lightroom to recognise GRII DNG's as GRIII's?
@@kpwalkr Yes but you need to buy a base profile for the GR II first. Then you can use this GR Pack with the GRII.
Thanks! Wow, committing financial seppuku for artistic integrity and honesty. Respect.
You are amazing for sharing this knowing it'll cost you financially.
Gut das ich vor einigen Tagen/Wochen noch deine Presets gekauft habe, wollte sie einfach mal auf meiner GR ausprobieren.
Cobalt habe ich schon mal mit geliebäugelt seid deinem ersten Video aber habe noch gewartet, werde mir die Presets von denen auf jeden fall mal zum testen hohlen.
Und das Geld das ich für deine Presets ausgegeben habe ist ja auch gut das es jetzt bei dir landet, alleine wenn ich sehe das du so offen damit umgehst.
Hoffe das du irgendwann die Camerastraps endlich rausbringst :D
Haha 😂. 7:30 that guy leaved the same comment on my channel when I said about Cobalt Profiles - in how you can get Leica bnw tones on Fuji. I've tried to explain him, but noo... Better talk to a wall. So decided to end the discussion 😎 (but the comment it's identical I believe).
Cobalt profiles rules! Saved the color for me for my Sony camera.
And WOW... That Ricoh positive effect so nice.
I bought your presets over a year ago and still continue to use them with my Panasonic and even my X100V files. But thank you for posting this. I'll have a look at Cobalt's stuff, too.
Samuel thank you so much I’ve tried to emulate these for years ! Currently I edit my images with a fuji Velvia base, now I will be able to do that with a Nikon Zf or so. Thank you !!
I like comparing profiles to underpainting and presets to sketches. Profiles provide a base vibe and presets are like a rough sketch/idea, it can sometimes be all u need but usually needs a bit of work
Thank you so much for making this video about the Positive Film Emulation, Samuel! I didn't know about this company before. I always wanted my GRII's look for my other cameras because being limited to 28 mm didn't give me enough freedom for other types of photography.
I created a LR Preset by myself, but it never came close enough to the original GR's colors. In my understanding the reason therefore is that a preset is always a linear change to a dynamic RAW file. But sensors doesn't behave linearly so that two different sensors can't get the same colors and tones with just statically transducing the parameters from source sensor to the target sensor. It's a bit like playing the piano. The softer you strike a key the sound becomes not only quieter but also more dull and less clear. This differentiate from piano to piano slightly so that you have to adapt the force to the keys accordingly to achieve a similar sound.
Did you ever shoot a Pentax body? I absolutely love the colors from my Pentax Q7 with the "Muted" color preset. Unfortunately a more potential Pentax KP didn't give me exact the same results. Maybe Cobalt Image will bring a dedicated package of Pentax profiles that includes a Pentax Q.
I feel so bad! I was literally going to buy your presets lastnight then I saw this video. I spent way more on cobalt-image but I am also now not going to sell my a6500. Thanks for posting this very helpful tip!
Can you use them on capture one express? Or do you have to buy capture one pro?
I feel that a lot, because I know exactly how such a small shade that you just can't get right can drive you crazy. Yesterday, after 4 years, I managed to find a way to convert a Kodak 2383 LUT including the Arri Alexa Film Matrix for our ProPhotoRGB color space that we use in Lightroom. It was adventurous and a wild journey, but I get it now. Now I'm off to Kodak Vision 3 and then hopefully I'll finally have what I've always wanted.
Are you going to make a video about that process?
@@MrWiseinheart No, I don't think so. You have to explain a lot about color spaces and the topic is quite specific. I've done a few more complex and technically deeper topics in videos in the past and apparently no one is interested. It's not worth the effort.
One thing you should be aware of is that you have to buy a Starter Pack for every camera you want to use the GR look on. For example, I used the Pentax K1, the Fuji H1 and a mobile phone on holiday (plus the GR). That means I would now need three starter packs at about 50€ each. Actually even four, if I also want to process the photos of the GR with the GR profiles generated by Cobalt (in the LR development module). Then there are the actual GR profiles for another 50€. I don't find the pricing model very pleasing and a very clear disadvantage compared to presents, which are globally applicable.
Presets can't be globally applicable. Presets apply changes with disregard to colour relationships. E.g. common ones just boost blues, oranges, and desaturates greens. Profiles on the other hand are more akin to a LUT that remaps colours and has some of relationship between them. It's the same reason why you could use Fuji profiles on your RAW files and they all look good with zero corrections, but when using presets, you need to fine tune colours.
I have recently seen your original (or let's say first?) video about Cobalt Image and their profiles. I've been trying to nail a filmic look for years now and have never been 100% satisfied. Then I tried them out, used the Nostalgic Negative Profile that is normally exclusive for the GFX100S on my XPro3 and I've never been more happy. Literally every image is exactly the way I want it to look. These guys do a great job! Also big thanks to you Samuel! Without you I wouldn't have found Cobalt Image and would still be mad while editing - LOL.
I haven't used Cobalt's film emulations but REALLY like DxO FilmLab 6. I still have gobs of Kodak BW400CN I'm shooting from years ago and other than how film handles highlights (bloom) my M240 files look just like my film scans. The beauty of the Cobalt stuff is that it's a profile IN LR...whereas FilmLab 6 is a stand-alone hook in LR...in DxO PhotoLab5, FilmLab is built-in as a profile.
I liked this video twice. Thank you
Wow, thanks haha
cobalt profiles are kind of fine if you do just slight light/shadow adjustments. otherwise your images will have weird artifacts in shadows and/or highlights. I guess the reason for that is most of the camera related profiles based on cobalt modular which is quite contrasty. It feels like cobalt profiles reduces dynamic range of raw images
I haven’t tried ricoh profiles, but fuji profiles does not look similar to original fuji colors.
nice video samuel thanks always for sharing informations, tips, experiences 😁
I agree with you 100%. As a BW shooter I've tried it all on digital, and Foveon and the OG Leica Monochrom have been the best tones I could find, but wanted to use my Leica M240...the Cobalt CCD Monochrom profile is SO good! I start of with an "F7 Linear" profile which gives me a flat image that has much more latitude to start with than any other profile I've found. I think my final output is somewhere between an M246 and a Sigma DP Merrill...and that's not too bad. I also think that an M11 with this would probably give the M10M a run for its money.
Thanks man. So kind of you to share this!
i use the ricoh gr digital iii and the colors from the old ccd sensor look like an old painting which in the right light has a unique look and i love it
Is this the same as just using the positive film emulation directly from my Ricoh GR3x?
This changes everything
Thank you so much, good Samaritan!
Fabulous Video Sam. I purchased the Cobalt DNG and Ricoh Gr3x simulations. One question : Do you take the pictures in standard mode (auto)?
You mean in camera? It doesn’t matter for RAW files because RAW files will have no filter applied to them. If you mean the standard Ricoh GR color profile then no, I don‘t use that. I only use the positive film and monotone profiles.
Oh no, I don't want to buy more but these profiles are so good :) I love their Kodak film pack personally!
Thank you for the recommendation! It's by far the best Positive Film profile I’ve tried so far but you have to bring the amount down to 50% or so to get its full benefits.
I just got the Ricoh pack for my Leica Q2. The positive film reminds of the colours I was getting straight out camera on the original Q which I much preferred over the Q2's. Thanks for the heads up, I mentioned your name when purchasing though I'm not sure that helps you at all?
I got so excited at the title that ricoh released their own profiles for LR...
Great video! Will have to check these profiles out. Question: do you shoot your GR in auto white balance?
Excuse my ignorance, but I have to ask this. The emulations u r talking about do they work like the presets or do we have to edit them after we apply them on a photo
i recently watch your videos. may i ask if this profiles can be used in lightroom mobile/ipad? thanks
Thank you, Samuel. I learned alot! Cheers :)
That pic with the Ilford in the mouth is💰
wish I could justify the price but it looks great!
Omg. This is the best day. Idk how many people care about this, but I've never loved a simulation as much as og positive film. I'm losing my mind over here.
in adobe lightroom for ipad, i see my default profiles. but they dont have a slider on the bottom to adjust the amount to apply. is that a special feature in some profiles and not in others? I have been looking to get a profile of "positive film" that i love in my GR3 on ipad on my other camera, olympus EM1 mk1, this is showing me how, i'm looking at picking up some of these film packs from cobalt! thank you for this, just exactly what i have been looking for since falling love with positive film!
So glad you have finally found a profile that can express your feelings after trying to do it by yourself for 2 weeks Lol. I think this is how the thing works, sometimes we need somebody's (who is an expert) help to fulfill our need & desire. Also, people like clients, they care about the result. In Samuel's case, he is his own client. Just imagine if he become my or your client and he asked for a GR positive film feeling photography while our camera is not GR, of course we will do the same to get his feeling satisfied.
damn and i just purchased your presets yesterday
Five days ago I was in Berlin and at home I was once again annoyed that I can't transfer the positive film look into the development menu. So what could be more obvious than buying your presets? Seeing this video now was funny, of course. I found your presets very close, but I was not so happy with the red/orange tones (but that can be due to a thousand things). I will definitely try this new option and have been waiting for it for ages and it was honestly one of the main reasons not to buy a GR3 as the GR2 positive film look just looks better. Thanks for your relaxed and informative videos!
I feel like I'm going crazy, but I dumped photos onto my laptop and opened in Lightroom only to find that there ARE Camera Matching Lightroom Presets available for a few, at least. Couldn't believe my eyes but from what I can see they have Standard, Positive Film, Soft Monotone, Hard Monotone, Monotone and Vivid. Hadn't seen it announced anywhere so... I'm pretty staggered and think I might be going crazy.
I think you are going crazy haha. I never saw any camera matching profiles for my GR's... That would be a dream! So pleace check and confirm :D I hope you are right lol.
Jo!!!! I updated Camera RAW and you were right!!! DAAANG. This is the best news ever!
@samuelstreetlife and it also means I'm not going crazy! Double great news hahaha
Great video, it made me rethink my approach of editing photos because I edit my photos so heavily and I don't have a particular style, but sometimes I like to try emulate film in my photos, I'm gonna try to keep it simple.
Some photographers have a unique post processing style and it might help having your own „look“ with your images but you can also have your own look by the way you photograph. And when I look back at my own photos from my first years when I started with Photography I can‘t really share them today without feeling embarrassed :) they stand out so much because I was trying so hard to make the photos look better than they needed to be. Simple editing always works best and they age better :)
@@SamuelStreetlife thanks samuel !!!
Which camera do you prefer, ricoh gr iii or gr iiix?
I think eventually people have to realize there are enough good film looks and color grades to stick to, and the rest has to come from the photos themselves. No sense in making 1000 black and white looks for the sake of being “unique” for example.
I think we've all gone through that phase of trying to find a bunch of presets and profiles, and end up with a collection of 100 of them haha But for me, I've always just wanted the positive film look. There's something about it I can't get over. For black and white? eh I don't really care. They all look relatively samey to my eye.
I'm not a colour scientist, but I I think part of the dynamic range and contrast that is missing from emulating older cameras, is purely that the new sensor is newer.
The colour profile can be an exact match, line for line in the encoding, but if the new sensor can read more DR natively the contrast will be slightly different. Those variances will have to be matched by eye.
This is what I think makes the bulk of "magic quality" loss for Fujifilm across generations. The reason that the X-T1 is so different to the X-T2 is because it's a shittier sensor, but in a charming way. I like shitty highlight and shadow retention it feels nice and bold. That shit is magic.
I haven't tried the GRs across generations, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is part of it. Low pixel density, and designed DR loss mitigation.
Same with Canon, because they have notoriously bad DR.
/conspiracy theory finished.
It was cool to see that you also raise the mid tone luminance in the colour wheel. ✌️
This is why I think it's good to intensify the whites and blacks a small amount, while softening the highlights and shadows (the opposite). It gives that smooth tone curve roll of early digital, that was probably the method to increase DR on the old sensors, while keeping the crushed/clipped look.
I will stop blogging here now. 😂
I totally agree that sometimes perfection gets in the way of certain beauty aspect because not everything in this world is perfect and some unperfect items are more unique and beautiful than the perfect ones. That being said it's nice having different cameras for different purposes, when you need perfection you use a certain camera when you need creativity use a different camera or style.
@@MrWiseinheart I think that's why if I want anyway invested in fuji with lenses, I would just get an X100 and use Nikon or something. 1 stylised look and 1 natural look.
It’s all about that tone :)
🤌🏻😁
I'd love to try cobalt image but it's so expensive..
I really like this, I named the presets I created to myself with film stock names for convenience sake but really they don't look much like film ahah, I like to take advantage of the capabilities of my digital sensor but yeah creating your own look is the name of the game, be it using profiles, presets, or whatever
Danke für den Tipp :)
Wish Cobalt will develop and release their own editing app for smartphones :)
Does it work on Capture One. ?
Hallo. Habe ich richtig verstanden, dass ich zuerst das Basis Paket benötige, bevor ich die Emulation benutzen kann?
It seems that nothing will not have been like original GR and its positive film effect for you :), completely makes sense for me, as you said it is because of nostalgia, someone told me we only live until our twentie's, after that we only remember❤🌹
One question though: So yes, we have to buy the basic pack then the presets. But do you apply two filters (basic + emulation) or just the emulation one ? It is rather confusing in the workflow. Ready to pull the trigger. Great video Samuel, as usual. "Thats when he realises..." Epic
No, you just apply the profile you want...you have to buy the base pack so that all the profiles understand how to apply themselves to your camera. Like on my M240, I just go straight to "CCD Monochrom>F7 Linear" and it knows it's an M240 file and applies F7 Linear for that camera. I have it for my Sony A100 as well, and my files come out looking the same!
@@patrickjclarke Ok it is still obscure when you say it knows but that's fine I'll invest into it and see. It'll make sens eventually. Thank you!
You also need to buy a pack for each camera you own
If Ricoh can’t strike a deal with Adobe to integrate profiles directly into their software, what’s stopping them from just releasing profiles that customers can download directly from them, in the same way we need to purchase from third parties? It’s a bit crap honestly 😢
My GRii positive film is really dark and contrasty, all settings are standard. Looks nothing like what I see online, any ideas? Thought the ND filter might be stuck down or something?
Nice vid. Product looks interesting. Their web site is a user experience disaster 😂
Thankyou Samuel ✔✔✔✔✔
I recently got a gr2 and noticed the reddish/kinda saturated skin, do you have a fix or what do you normally do with it?
hi Samuel! This apply to the GRD?
Hey Sebastian, you can check if you camera is included by looking at their camera list on the "Basic Pack" page :)
Thanks
"See how it clears up a little bit(the green)"
My color deficient ass: 🧐😶
Hmm. No Hasselblad. If they could do something that would approach Hasselblad Natural Color Solution I might be interested. They have the most amazing color engine I’ve ever worked with hands down.
It is a little bit confusing on which stuff things to buy at their website
I own a GRIIIx and just wanted to get a positive film profile on lightroom mobile.
So I need to buy the DNG basic pack (select GRIIIx as camera) first and then buy the Ricoh GR emulation profile?
Yes their emulation profiles only work when you install the basic profiles for your camera first. I agree they should put more information on their emulation packs to make it clear.
Is the first picture (1:06) from Leipzig?
Nice Ricoh GR Profiles!
Does someone know if the Ricoh GR Profiles work on any other Software than the ones from adobe? I absolutely despise the subscription model from adobe and didn't use their software since then. At the Moment I only have Luminar and RawTherapee. I found Cobalt confusing enough but now I'm even more confused, because over at their website it is written that the DNG Basic Pack works with Luminar and RawTherapee, so I was happy at first. But then I did go over to the section about the Profiles for GR and it is stated that I have to own a ''Adobe DNG basic pack'', but under basic packs there is no Adobe version of it, just the normal DNG basic pack which includes Lightroom but also other Software like Luminar and RawTherapee. Now I'm absolutely dumbfounded and don't know if I can use the GR Profiles without Adobe or not...
6:34 is he Hector Bellerin ? Fc Barcelona football player !! 😮😂
How do you import the profiles to ipad?
I can't get the profiles to show up in Lightroom. I click import, select the zip file (that's what cobalt says to do, but I also tried unzipping and selecting the profiles and importing) it says "17 profiles imported" but they're nowhere to be found in my manage profiles section. Am I alone in this? I don't know what's happening
hi! did you manage to get it working? I have the same issue here...thanks!
is it so that we should also buy the Adobe DNG basic pack, in addition to Ricoh?
@@ASiqueira1973 so yea i talked to them. You have to get the basic pack, for each camera you want the profile for. Kind of annoying. It's all pricey 🤣 i was hoping to get one for iPhone, but i have the 14 pro, and the most current they have is 13 pro. But even with 13pro files i can't get it to work. 🤷🏻♂️ but it works for the gr 👍🏻
thanks!! understood...not a problem, but it could be more clear there the pre req...thanks again!
Great video !
Thanks Edoardo!
So how does this compare to the DXO film packs?
I am not super familiar with the DxO Film Pack but I had a quick look. Looks like they are offering presets. And nowhere I can find information on how they were made which probably means they were using the editing softwares to create the presets. Cobalt Image should therefore be much more accurate and they can guarantee even results across different systems.
@@SamuelStreetlife for information, this is an extract from the DXO Filmpack 6 user guide. Hope this is seen as useful. Love your channel even though I’ve not got a GR! (Yet!!)
“More than 80 high-fidelity analog film renderings
DxO FilmPack preset renderings are created in DxO’s laboratories using an exclusive scientific process of exhaustively profiling each film. This process is based on a series of shots of specially-calibrated targets and as well as real-life subjects taken with the film being profiled. The film is then developed by the world’s most reputable processing laboratories, notably PICTO and Arka Lab in France, and Duggal in the United States, and is then subjected to high-resolution digitization in order to measure the film response and to extract the grain matrices. This process has allowed DxO to perfectly reproduce high-fidelity rendering of the characteristic appearance, colors, and grains of 83 legendary films - color negatives, black & white, slide, and instant snapshots.
Fuji and cinema digital renderings
DxO FilmPack also offers you such preset renderings as the digital simulations of certain analog films available on Fuji cameras, as well as the possibility of giving a cinematic aspect to your images.”
There is no such thing as "your own look", your starting point is always the color science of the camera brand. These profiles essentially are color profiles with their own color science. They're not presets.
I have not used these from Cobalt, but when scanning negatives to raw files I use profiles for various film emulsions with the scanner and its software.
I'll have to try out the Cobalt profiles.
The beauty thing of the Cobalt profile is that they re-interpret the built in color science of the sensor. Yes, you are getting their "color science" at that point, but they have tried to keep it as neutral and accurate as possible. I'm amazed at what they've done with their "Monochrom" profiles...re-mapping a bayer sensor to "match" what the M9 does is wizardry.
Moin Dude, habe die Cobalt Ricoh Presets gekauft und in Lightroom Classic importiert. Leider werden sie mir nicht angezeigt! Ich verzweifle !
Moin Eric, du brauchst leider noch ein Base Profil für deine Kamera. Das findest du auch auf deren Webseite. Ich hatte es zwar kurz im Video erwähnt aber haben leider viele überhört. Aber damit klappt es dann👍
@@SamuelStreetlife puh besten Dank! Das hab ich auch verpeilt. 😂
Mach weiter so Dude👌🏾
@@SamuelStreetlife ich habe das Adobe and DNG basic pack - Ricoh GR IIIx noch gekauft und alles in LR und LRC importiert aber es taucht nirgends auf.
@@erickessner4362 Es müssten Anleitungen dabei gewesen sein. Du musst die Profile als ZIP datei importieren. Dann eventuell PS oder LR neustarten und dann sollte es bei den Profilen erscheinen.
Anyone else having issues with these profiles? I just purchased them but it wont let me import to the latest camera raw within photoshop, and they don't show up after importing into the latest Lightroom on Mac...
You need to buy the base profile for your camera first and then you can use the other emulation profiles. I know it sucks a but having to buy two things but it only works like that... I thought I mentioned it in the video but probably should have made that clear.
@@SamuelStreetlife ah, thank you - I did hear you say it but being a profile n00b I wasn’t totally sure about the process itself. Appreciate your guidance sir!
@@SamuelStreetlife that's way too much for what this is, in this economy, unfortunately.
I find it hard to believe this is a bad move financially when you have an affiliate link in the description...
Profiles imported, but not visible in LR. €45 thrown away unfortunately ☹
Als bought the DNG Basic Pack ( € 51 ) and now it's works
Seppuku at 1:30’ - hilarious.
People who find that video useful at 6:36
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Thanks