I don't mind idols being sexy, but it's creepy to broadcast "this idol is legal now". Or sexualizing underage idols. Also.. Stellar was sexy to me until I found out they hated and were forced into their dances.
꧁༒planning gaily༒꧂ “this idol is legal now” it makes it sound like they don’t care about age but only because it’s what people want, I’m fine with sexy concepts but forcing on them is just plain terrible
Stellar debut song "Rocket Girl", 2nd song "UFO" and 3rd single "Study" was not sexy but they received like little to no attention DESPITE SHINWA's Eric being the producer for them. And the time line after that is: "Marionette" - lots of attention super sexy, usually confused to be their debut song. "Mask" - toned down sexy "Fool" - toned all the way down, not sexy but completely overlooked "Vibrato" - on par to "Marionette" sexy and attention wise. However this released showed just how much "Fool" was overlooked due to people asking why the group was hadn't released anything for so long....they released "Fool" 4 months prior to "Vibrato". "Sting" - sexiness toned down "Cry" - sexiness even more toned down "Angels of the Sephiroth" - line up changed not really sexy and it was their last song.
@@0lala020 When I first saw that last song title, before I had heard it, I thought it might be a cover of a metal song, because that song title just screams "heavy metal".
I think it's dope for people who actually wanted to do it.. I imagine for some it would be exciting.. like a little tradition all idols look forward to.. but if they were pressured into it, then yea.. that's hella weird.. maybe it they spent less time in trying to make their idols (specifically the females) look child like and let them actually mature into themselves (such as all the hate some females got for their curves or a little thickness to their bodies) they wouldn't need a coming of age ceremony 🙄..
but they are??? i think... Dreamcatcher did one maybe last year, but you're right that it oversexualises the idols :/ especially female idols since when bgs do it, everyone thinks it's funny
@hyunlixr the main problem is not the idols themselves but the audience.... even if they are 19 or 30 they shouldnt be sexualised since we don't know them and we have no idea if they like that kind of treatment, not just idols but people in general. It's not about them showing their sexy side or whatever, is about them being oversexualised when they JUST turned 19/20 + korean male fans are usually disgusting about these kind of stages so it's better for the idols' own safety if they stop these stages
I always found creepy how the second they turn 18 they do these stages. I understand and support idols expressing their sensual side as long they are adults. but 17 and 18 aren't that far. I think those concepts should come more naturally, and not all idols can pull it off. Also this kind of sexualization "barely legal" stuff is very real and worrying. imo
@hyunlixr except most have barely just turned 18 when they did it and that's weird as fuck and obviously made to appeal to older men who fantasized about being with them when they were underage.......
I…feel like it’s odd that once the idols turn 19 it’s like “whelp you are legal, now sell your sex appeal.” I was reading some interviews about yeri and when she had turned 19 the interviewer had asked her “how does it feel to be in fishnets now that you are of age” and suggestive comments of that sort. It seems like once the idols are at a certain age, no matter what they’re comfortable with are put on an image. Like a progression: innocent, cute, then boom sexy
It's sad that Park Jiyoon didn't really understand the lyrics when she sang the song, but i feel like a lot of people consider this a song that changed the narrative of female sexuality. Like especially in korea in the early 2000s, late nineties. The lyrics state that the girl wants sex as much as the guy and it was a long wait for her too, which is why i think it became so sensational. Again, it's sad that Park Jiyoon had gone through so much because of this song, but i hope 20 years later she's proud of the cultural impact of this song.
It can be an empowering song but it has to be the performers choice to do it and how to perform it. Like IUs version wasn’t overly sexy and obviously she has earned the right to do anything she wants.
100% agree! The lyrics are WAY ahead of their time... people thinking girls dont want sex?? They do , just as much as men. The songs message is 100% positive: I am a woman now, i've wanted you as much as you've wanted me and now lets get to it? 100% positive , woman empowerment.
its also just a groomer's dream, the song might be touted as something revolutionary for female sexuality but the actual message of the song is of an adult wanting to sleep with a minor and watching them grow up waiting till it was finally legal and then having the child do a sexy dance to be like yep I wanted this too so its totally okay, like it would be one thing if it was just about a woman expressing her sexuality and saying she too (as an adult woman) wants to sleep with men etc etc but the fact that the singer themselves and probably most idols who cover this the moment they turn eighteen didn't even understand the contents of the lyrics just proves how inappropriate the song actually is, it's being used as a justification for consent when these young people don't even fully understand what it means
I feel like they should give the idols a choice whether if they want to do the song or not. Forcing them or manipulate them into doing it is obviously wrong. Yet, Everyone have a different view on how they want express themselves musically so giving the option on if they want to do it or not then it wouldn’t hurt.
This is why I'm proud of Gfriend's company, Source Music. The CEO himself said he can't imagine Gfriend doing a full on sexy concept. I just notice their confidence so naturally sometimes Gfriend look sexy to me and not even in an objectifying kind of way. Yes, Gfriend members may perform sexy dances sometimes for fun or just because they want to but at least they're not forced into it by the culture. I don't think they've performed the coming of age ceremony either. The sexiest I've seen is Sinb dancing Sweet But Psycho, Eunha performing Gain's Bloom, Sowon performing Gashina and Umji performing IU's Fox.
They also did the "who's your mama" cover with some other groups. Sowon also did a Miss A hush cover with people from other groups as well. While I don't see them go full sexy like AOA, Sistar or EXID they are capable of doing sexy concept but they should only do it if they want to.
@@TheNoobishNoob Supports my point ^•^ They're not forced into uncomfortable performances. And I don't really find Who's Your Mama performance too sexy.
Their last release Apple can be termed as sexy but in an elegant and classy way such that the transition seems organic and mature. Pretty much like Apink imo.
I have the feeling that the clothing of the idols has become increasingly more revealing for the male idols in the last six months (see Nct 127, Exo, Pentagon etc.) I don't really know what to make of it, I think it's perfectly okay to present your body as long as you are comfortable with it, but I have the feeling that everything is being pushed very much by the entertainments these months. And that annoys me a lot with the last comebacks, especially at SM Entertaiment I have the feeling that at the moment, while all groups want to present themselves as more open and individual, these clichés and charms for the masses are more there than ever, I don't think that's great Sorry for my bad english, but it is just my third language Thank you for the nice video, greetings form Germany♥
Didn't SM's boy groups always thrive off fanservice? All these years of Super Junior making out, EXO talking about showering together and NCT stroking eachother's thighs in most of the interviews? Stanning SM groups feels much different than stanning other groups since fanservice is expected of them. I am a big EXO-L and a NCTzen and honestly I feel like the biggest selling point atm is sex appeal. I'm not complaining since I obviously enjoy what I'm seeing but I hope that the boys are not uncomfortable and are willingly sexualising themselves.
ĺq ğđ The lyrics aren’t not THAT as the individual makes them out to be. I’ve heard MUCH racier songs. But simply put, it’s about a girl who, of course, becomes of legal age and she wants her lover to express romantic, intimate feelings towards her. Lyrics saying things like “I’m not that little girl you used to know”, “no hesitations”, and “teach me how to love.”
I think sexy concepts were more explicit during 2014/2016 with Aoa, Girls Day, Sistar etc but now it’s just really implicit and more about revealing clothes wich is not the bad thing if the idols aren’t uncomfortable
I’m gonna be honest, it really disturbs me that this was / is such a big thing. It’s literally the equivalent of “boys she’s legal now!” And it’s gross.
Abigail Delaney if you read the lyrics it’s clear that the older person ‘liked’ her since she was a minor but has been waiting for her to come of age so that he doesn’t face any legal problems. And I get that the girl wanted it too but it’s still kinda creepy.
Erin Murphy it makes you think how many groups are doing sexy concepts and don't really want to. Or any concept for that matter. These groups really are owned from their company and we don't know what's real and what isn't
I think if they're comfortable being sexy or doing a sexy concept and they're at least 18+ its fine, go for it! its just not good for companies to FORCE them to be sexy if they're uncomfortable, especially when the idols are under 18.
My brain cannot register that IU had covered that song...just don't remember after like 10 minutes of reminding myself. I think parents/guardians should inform the kids they are sending off to be involved in K-Pop industry that it may be attractive there but it's not totally healthy physically or mentally. That many eyes on you even in your 20s would mess you up if even a slightly, let alone the teenage years.
Luis Sambrano I get where you’re coming from. I don’t mind sexier tracks and I personally love the song to this day. Also, I’m a sucker for 90s-early 2000s music. It brings me back to those simpler times. Some of these younger idols cover the song just for the sake of covering it..
It's only creepy if it's something they _have_ to do. If they're ok with being sexy and dancing sexy it's fine. It's just a bit shocking if i have to see the youngest of the group doing that kind of thing while they're still maintaining a 'girly innocent' image.
9Muses OT9 and OT8 will be forever the BESTEST of the BEST cover of Age Ceremony and whoever who disagrees can fight me because the song and concept match with them so much it's even like it was originally by themselves.
Adult ceremony covers are fine with me, as long as the idol is an adult in Korea and is comfortable with it. If they are still innocent even at 20, then it should be explained so they at least know what they are covering. If the idol covers this song after meeting those requirements, I don't think they are being exploited in anyway. All the company needs to do is be transparent with their idol/artist
I remember watching Chanmi and Joy's cover, being so happy that two of my fave idols were on the same stage. Now i feel icky about it. Chanmi was infantilized way longer than Joy did, i remember articles counting down the days for her to turn 20 and start dating because she had "the body, face and personality men like". 🤢 Now that i see the lyrics i feel dirty. Bye.
i think there's definitely ways to do sexy concepts without objectifying the ladies doing them. sistar for example had stated many times over the years that they much prefer sexy concepts, that they felt way less confident pulling off cute ones. when the artists have control and agency, then we as viewers know we haven't unwittingly violated their consent. what i really don't like, is when companies use a dramatic shift to a racy concept as a marketing ploy. from experience, so many of these suddenly sexy girl groups are so disposable. their companies clearly don't value them as artists and it shows when the inevitable lawsuits, breakups, contract negotiations come up. the sexy concept was maybe just a last ditch effort to squeeze some cash out of them. they expose these girls to so much criticism while also letting 'fans' take pictures of their buttcheeks. it just feels so exploitative.
I don't understand people who are all of a sudden saying they never liked sexy concept. The company/artist used the sexy concept because YOU bought it. Plus YOU guys are always saying how you don't like cute, lovely concepts and like "badass, confident, sexy" concepts. We (the audience) have no idea if the artist is truly confident or is acting confident but you always shout for sexy hot confident women so that's what the company is giving you.
This song is really iconic. If you frequently watch korean music shows or variety shows, it's impossible that you haven't heard it even once. From kpop idols to comedians, I think almost everyone is aware of the choreography haha.
I’m not a prude, nor am I judging idols who are made to perform this song but it’s always given me an unsettling feeling. Like maybe it’s kind of signaling that the artists who perform it are officially up for grabs behind the scenes for creepy music execs or higher ups...I might be reaching but with how messed the music industry is worldwide it wouldn’t surprise me.
If the idol is an adult and is comfortable doing the ceremony, that's the most important thing. Same with sexy concepts, if it's not forced and something the groups liked doing(like AOA, Girls Day and Sistar), then it's all good.
I remember watching and listening to Adult Ceremony when I was 15 and thinking, "wow... this is one sexual song..." It was 2009, I am a Brazilian, I was already used to such concepts in my own country and international pop. It wasn't anything new to me, seeing a sexualized concept, but I had the notion that, for Asians (I wasn't that into Korean culture, so I based my thought process on Japanese culture), that imagery and song must have been a BOOM. And I was correct. Hahaha I love Park Ji Yoon. She's one of the most authentic artists in K-pop history, tbh. To me, she's up there with legends such as Lee HyoRi and Uhm Jung Hwa and Lee Jung Hyun.
So Daewhi and Taemin's sexy solos rejoicing in how they're adults and can be sexy now are okay. But when a woman does it we get this kind of discussions. Let's be clear here. It's never okay to sexualize underage people or force anyone (no matter their age) to do anything that makes them uncomfortable. That being said, I don't see a problem with this song and I think some comments under this video are overreacting.
Not only does this sexualize young idols, but it just reinforces the idea that a woman’s body is always an open invitation even when it’s not. It takes away all agency from said woman in question, feeding into the idea that a man’s sexual advances is always justified and I absolutely hate that.
I felt so uncomfortable when joys fancams had more views than the whole performance and most comments were about her body. Apart from the adult ceremony performances some fans even ogle underrated kids like yeji and jungkook (when he was a minor)
I think its crazy how people have consistently argued over whether a "Sexy" concept is okay. Like it's so weird to me that the argument always falls to fans doing too much and constantly sexualizing their idols or babying them and hating anything provocative. It literally isn't our call to make an idol should obviously be able to choose what they are comfortable doing. I think it's weird that people argue over this stuff bc just like idols we have a right to be comfortable or uncomfortable with provocation too. Yes, some fans on both sides go overboard but I see ppl snapping at each other over the most tame comments like yall sound so hypocritical........
I mean I’m happy these stages stopped, I have no problem with idols being like hey I’m not just cute I can be a badass too. Like I love the badass/Sexy concepts of kpop but I feel bad for some of the girls that did it. Who knows how uncomfortable some of them were.
Never heard of this! Great job explaining the video, I enjoyed it! The thing that stuck with me was how the priest PLAYED THAT, in front of many innocent families, including her own. If my priest did that I'd be mortified.
i definetly prefer the sexy consept over cute one.... but i hope that the idols make sexy songs because they want to not because intertainments make them
its also just a groomer's dream, the song might be touted as something revolutionary for female sexuality and opening the gate for women to express themselves (and I'm not denying its impact on the world either, just discussing how misguided it is, basically how women empowerment is still just do whatever men want ig idk lol) but the actual message of the song is of an adult man wanting to sleep with a minor and watching them grow up waiting till it was finally legal and then having the child do a sexy dance to be like yep I wanted this too so its totally okay, like it would be one thing if it was just about a woman expressing her sexuality and saying she too (as an adult woman) wants to sleep with men etc etc but the fact that the singer themselves and probably most idols who cover this the moment they turn eighteen didn't even understand the contents of the lyrics just proves how inappropriate the song actually is, it's being used as a justification for consent when these young people don't even fully understand what it means
"Sung In Shik" -- The song that got me started in K-pop, though it was through the dance scene in the film, "My Tutor Friend". Took me a while to find out the name of the song and who sung it (not so much info online during those years). Also required a little effort to secure the music CD, but it was well worth it, as the entire album is killer.
2013-2016 that should be the hay day of Sexy concept Girl group kpop songs. The group that used Sexy Concept are the following 9muses AOA Sistar Girl's Day Hello Venus Miss A Brown Eyed Girls and Stellar. Of those groups Stellar Hello Venus and 9muses have 19 rated MV
i have a question, very off topic, but what mv is this at 0:59 its beautiful also the song cover, im fine with idols covering Adult Ceremony as long as their comfortable with it, and that their not being sexualize by people because of it
ok so luckily i stan a group that non only choose the song that they want to sing but also write their song. i have noticed that male idol are having really revealing clothes expetialy kai form exo i am not a bg stan so for me to notice that it most have been really obvious
Honestly, so long as the idols themselves are comfortable with performing the song, I don't have a problem. It's when idols are forced into doing something they are uncomfortable with, that's when I have a problem.
I genuinely think there's nothing wrong with sexy concepts, I absolutely love them because I love to express myself that way. But I believe that sexy concepts shouldn't be forced upon idols and should be done if idols feel comfortable doing so. I recently found out that IZ*ONE did their cover of Adult Ceremony and I felt uneasy because the 4 members who performed the song just came into adulthood lol.
I’ve been a huge fan of kpop since ‘09 and I know how “iconic” this song is among the idols and some fans. But in all honesty I never liked this song 😭. I never understood the longevity of it as well. There’s not one cover that has changed my mind on this song in my 11 years of loving kpop not one.
I feel like it's fine for idols to do it as long as the idols aren't forced to perform it. If the idols wanted to do it without any type of second opinion or force, it's fine.
I wonder what was going through JYP's mind when he wrote the song. If you do a lyric breakdown it basically says that there was this girl and a man. The man wanted to have sex with the girl but has to wait for some time because she's a minor. And now that she's a legal adult the girl is telling the man that it's they can now do the did. Isn't that grooming? Anyways, I'm glad Park Jiyoon was able to come forward and speak about what the song did to her. Might brought her fame but the damage it did to her mental health and her relationship with her parents is something to not be taken lightly. I'm also glad she had the guts to walk away from the image given to her which she's not comfortable.
Grace Fire The lyrics said " I'm thankful you waited for me. ". Which clearly meant that the man told girl that he will wait till she reach the right age to the deed. This was the interpretation of the artist herself, her parents and a lot of knetz who think of her negatively throughout the years. And whatever the intention is, it is the songwriter/producers job to brief the singer about the meaning of the song and asked her if she's comfortable with it. She maybe of legal age at that time but we must bare in mind that South Korea is still a conservative country up to this day. The song was released in 2000. It did brought her massive fame and it is what she's known up to this day. Imagine being known for a song about being wanting to be eagerly wanting to be deflowered. The impact of what happened on her mental health made her on hiatus for six years.
I don't mind idols being sexy, but it's creepy to broadcast "this idol is legal now". Or sexualizing underage idols.
Also.. Stellar was sexy to me until I found out they hated and were forced into their dances.
꧁༒planning gaily༒꧂ “this idol is legal now” it makes it sound like they don’t care about age but only because it’s what people want, I’m fine with sexy concepts but forcing on them is just plain terrible
@@thegloriousmorious9755 it literally feels like they were counting down the days until they are able to sexualise them without feeling guilty
Stellar debut song "Rocket Girl", 2nd song "UFO" and 3rd single "Study" was not sexy but they received like little to no attention DESPITE SHINWA's Eric being the producer for them.
And the time line after that is:
"Marionette" - lots of attention super sexy, usually confused to be their debut song.
"Mask" - toned down sexy
"Fool" - toned all the way down, not sexy but completely overlooked
"Vibrato" - on par to "Marionette" sexy and attention wise. However this released showed just how much "Fool" was overlooked due to people asking why the group was hadn't released anything for so long....they released "Fool" 4 months prior to "Vibrato".
"Sting" - sexiness toned down
"Cry" - sexiness even more toned down
"Angels of the Sephiroth" - line up changed not really sexy and it was their last song.
@@0lala020 When I first saw that last song title, before I had heard it, I thought it might be a cover of a metal song, because that song title just screams "heavy metal".
I think it's dope for people who actually wanted to do it.. I imagine for some it would be exciting.. like a little tradition all idols look forward to.. but if they were pressured into it, then yea.. that's hella weird.. maybe it they spent less time in trying to make their idols (specifically the females) look child like and let them actually mature into themselves (such as all the hate some females got for their curves or a little thickness to their bodies) they wouldn't need a coming of age ceremony 🙄..
I was shocked when I found out park ji yoon legit didn't know Adult Ceremony's lyrics were lewd.
I felt bad for her.
Wow she didn't? Its like how did she not if she knows korean? Lol
@@peachxtaehyung lol yeah the song isnt that derect, more simbalistic but it is definitely about losing virginity lol
@@toetuff6732 lol true
@@peachxtaehyung yep lol
this is like when you were 12 years old and you didn't know you were singing a lewd songs. ex: whistle -florida ,bed rock -young money, etc.
Honestly I am relieved that the "coming of age" stages are not a thing anymore... it was just another way of sexualising idols and I hated it
but they are??? i think... Dreamcatcher did one maybe last year, but you're right that it oversexualises the idols :/ especially female idols since when bgs do it, everyone thinks it's funny
@hyunlixr the main problem is not the idols themselves but the audience.... even if they are 19 or 30 they shouldnt be sexualised since we don't know them and we have no idea if they like that kind of treatment, not just idols but people in general. It's not about them showing their sexy side or whatever, is about them being oversexualised when they JUST turned 19/20
+ korean male fans are usually disgusting about these kind of stages so it's better for the idols' own safety if they stop these stages
I always found creepy how the second they turn 18 they do these stages. I understand and support idols expressing their sensual side as long they are adults. but 17 and 18 aren't that far. I think those concepts should come more naturally, and not all idols can pull it off. Also this kind of sexualization "barely legal" stuff is very real and worrying. imo
@hyunlixr except most have barely just turned 18 when they did it and that's weird as fuck and obviously made to appeal to older men who fantasized about being with them when they were underage.......
hyunlixr okay but then performing the piece doesn’t mean they want to, it’s what their company wants
I…feel like it’s odd that once the idols turn 19 it’s like “whelp you are legal, now sell your sex appeal.” I was reading some interviews about yeri and when she had turned 19 the interviewer had asked her “how does it feel to be in fishnets now that you are of age” and suggestive comments of that sort.
It seems like once the idols are at a certain age, no matter what they’re comfortable with are put on an image. Like a progression: innocent, cute, then boom sexy
coolcool1997 Yeah makes me think of those countdown timers for celebs when they were underaged, like for the Olsen twins
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't age of majority 19 in South Korea not 18.
Agrippina Volturi Whitlock oop my bad I get Korean ages confused at times
I remember that interview and Irene shut that shit down real quick ! Literally disgusting to sexualize them like that
@@Bran4pres i think that in korea once you're born you already count as a 1 year old so it's pretty much the same
6:40 i dont have an issue with them covering adult ceremony or whatever as long as theyre comfortable and of legal age
It's sad that Park Jiyoon didn't really understand the lyrics when she sang the song, but i feel like a lot of people consider this a song that changed the narrative of female sexuality. Like especially in korea in the early 2000s, late nineties. The lyrics state that the girl wants sex as much as the guy and it was a long wait for her too, which is why i think it became so sensational. Again, it's sad that Park Jiyoon had gone through so much because of this song, but i hope 20 years later she's proud of the cultural impact of this song.
This is the importance of the song and why it's iconic.
It can be an empowering song but it has to be the performers choice to do it and how to perform it. Like IUs version wasn’t overly sexy and obviously she has earned the right to do anything she wants.
100% agree! The lyrics are WAY ahead of their time... people thinking girls dont want sex?? They do , just as much as men. The songs message is 100% positive: I am a woman now, i've wanted you as much as you've wanted me and now lets get to it? 100% positive , woman empowerment.
its also just a groomer's dream, the song might be touted as something revolutionary for female sexuality but the actual message of the song is of an adult wanting to sleep with a minor and watching them grow up waiting till it was finally legal and then having the child do a sexy dance to be like yep I wanted this too so its totally okay, like it would be one thing if it was just about a woman expressing her sexuality and saying she too (as an adult woman) wants to sleep with men etc etc but the fact that the singer themselves and probably most idols who cover this the moment they turn eighteen didn't even understand the contents of the lyrics just proves how inappropriate the song actually is, it's being used as a justification for consent when these young people don't even fully understand what it means
@@NehaBanerji in no way does the song say that.
I feel like they should give the idols a choice whether if they want to do the song or not. Forcing them or manipulate them into doing it is obviously wrong. Yet, Everyone have a different view on how they want express themselves musically so giving the option on if they want to do it or not then it wouldn’t hurt.
Lmao I got creep out because of your photo :( sorry, is 3 am
ada avi lol
Jyp was not a big hit back then and idols under small companies really dont have a choice to take the songs or whatever
This is why I'm proud of Gfriend's company, Source Music. The CEO himself said he can't imagine Gfriend doing a full on sexy concept. I just notice their confidence so naturally sometimes Gfriend look sexy to me and not even in an objectifying kind of way. Yes, Gfriend members may perform sexy dances sometimes for fun or just because they want to but at least they're not forced into it by the culture. I don't think they've performed the coming of age ceremony either. The sexiest I've seen is Sinb dancing Sweet But Psycho, Eunha performing Gain's Bloom, Sowon performing Gashina and Umji performing IU's Fox.
@@alessandras2872 Gfriend wasn't in Queendom? Are you talking about Lovelyz?
They also did the "who's your mama" cover with some other groups. Sowon also did a Miss A hush cover with people from other groups as well.
While I don't see them go full sexy like AOA, Sistar or EXID they are capable of doing sexy concept but they should only do it if they want to.
@@TheNoobishNoob Supports my point ^•^ They're not forced into uncomfortable performances. And I don't really find Who's Your Mama performance too sexy.
Their last release Apple can be termed as sexy but in an elegant and classy way such that the transition seems organic and mature. Pretty much like Apink imo.
@@randommumbler1146 yeah apple is classy and mature and pretty suitable for their age
I have the feeling that the clothing of the idols has become increasingly more revealing for the male idols in the last six months (see Nct 127, Exo, Pentagon etc.) I don't really know what to make of it, I think it's perfectly okay to present your body as long as you are comfortable with it, but I have the feeling that everything is being pushed very much by the entertainments these months.
And that annoys me a lot with the last comebacks, especially at SM Entertaiment I have the feeling that at the moment, while all groups want to present themselves as more open and individual, these clichés and charms for the masses are more there than ever, I don't think that's great
Sorry for my bad english, but it is just my third language
Thank you for the nice video, greetings form Germany♥
I mean it’s all about the fan service
Didn't SM's boy groups always thrive off fanservice? All these years of Super Junior making out, EXO talking about showering together and NCT stroking eachother's thighs in most of the interviews? Stanning SM groups feels much different than stanning other groups since fanservice is expected of them. I am a big EXO-L and a NCTzen and honestly I feel like the biggest selling point atm is sex appeal. I'm not complaining since I obviously enjoy what I'm seeing but I hope that the boys are not uncomfortable and are willingly sexualising themselves.
Ahhh, ich finde mal einen deutschen Kpop Fan haha💜
@@jantjenotjanche Man findet die meisten Deutschen bei Yangyang Videos xD♥
@@aestheticvibes6745 Ja, die hab' ich mir auch schon angesehen😂
I've always loved the song, then recently I looked at the lyrics. I still like the song it;s just not the same for me.
What's wrong with the lyrics?
ĺq ğđ The lyrics aren’t not THAT as the individual makes them out to be.
I’ve heard MUCH racier songs. But simply put, it’s about a girl who, of course, becomes of legal age and she wants her lover to express romantic, intimate feelings towards her. Lyrics saying things like “I’m not that little girl you used to know”, “no hesitations”, and “teach me how to love.”
I think sexy concepts were more explicit during 2014/2016 with Aoa, Girls Day, Sistar etc but now it’s just really implicit and more about revealing clothes wich is not the bad thing if the idols aren’t uncomfortable
oh boy I had no idea the lyrics were like that, yikes
same
Uhm.... Could you not make out by the sound of the song? 👀
@@angela-dm7vo pedophilic? no, i couldn't
@@navyblueprince fuck I did not know they were pedophilic! Wtff!!! 😂😂😂 Shit I'm such a clown I was high when I wrote that!
The lyrics are not pedophilic. They are about a girl in love that finaly is of age and wants to do it with the one she loves...¬ ¬'
I’m gonna be honest, it really disturbs me that this was / is such a big thing. It’s literally the equivalent of “boys she’s legal now!” And it’s gross.
Abigail Delaney if you read the lyrics it’s clear that the older person ‘liked’ her since she was a minor but has been waiting for her to come of age so that he doesn’t face any legal problems. And I get that the girl wanted it too but it’s still kinda creepy.
That’s exactly what it is.
Abigail Delaney it’s so predatory and uncomfortable
the lyrics are basically a way of saying "it's ok that you have sexualized me all these years, I've secretly liked it all along"
RUGHTT
Female idols : *barely turn legal*
Kpop companies : you know what time it is!!! *start boping to adult ceremony*
Look up Stellar, they were exploited at a young age and force to do really sexy concepts.
Erin Murphy it makes you think how many groups are doing sexy concepts and don't really want to. Or any concept for that matter. These groups really are owned from their company and we don't know what's real and what isn't
I think if they're comfortable being sexy or doing a sexy concept and they're at least 18+ its fine, go for it! its just not good for companies to FORCE them to be sexy if they're uncomfortable, especially when the idols are under 18.
My brain cannot register that IU had covered that song...just don't remember after like 10 minutes of reminding myself. I think parents/guardians should inform the kids they are sending off to be involved in K-Pop industry that it may be attractive there but it's not totally healthy physically or mentally. That many eyes on you even in your 20s would mess you up if even a slightly, let alone the teenage years.
That song is just a meme now. Non of the idols cares what the lyrics are. It’s just a song that they cover for fun.
Exactly
Luis Sambrano I get where you’re coming from.
I don’t mind sexier tracks and I personally love the song to this day. Also, I’m a sucker for 90s-early 2000s music. It brings me back to those simpler times. Some of these younger idols cover the song just for the sake of covering it..
I discovered the his song a few days ago and it's ironic cause I just turned 18 . I have been learning the dance cause I really like it lol
the lyrics are still disturbing n pedophilic
yeah
Its so crazy. I was listening to Adult Ceremony today when I got this notification in my feed
It's only creepy if it's something they _have_ to do. If they're ok with being sexy and dancing sexy it's fine. It's just a bit shocking if i have to see the youngest of the group doing that kind of thing while they're still maintaining a 'girly innocent' image.
*Who is here after watching IZ*ONE's concert performance unit of the 01z? (Minju,Nako,Hitomi & Yuri)*
9Muses OT9 and OT8 will be forever the BESTEST of the BEST cover of Age Ceremony and whoever who disagrees can fight me because the song and concept match with them so much it's even like it was originally by themselves.
Joys cover & performance of adult ceremony is the best, fight me 💪🏻
Adult ceremony covers are fine with me, as long as the idol is an adult in Korea and is comfortable with it. If they are still innocent even at 20, then it should be explained so they at least know what they are covering.
If the idol covers this song after meeting those requirements, I don't think they are being exploited in anyway.
All the company needs to do is be transparent with their idol/artist
we love a queen who can expand her brand 😳❤️
This was such an interesting deep dive! I've heard and seen this song a lot but i didnt know much about the original singer. Thanks for making this!
its really creepy how someone else wrote this song for her, right as she turned 18
I remember watching Chanmi and Joy's cover, being so happy that two of my fave idols were on the same stage. Now i feel icky about it. Chanmi was infantilized way longer than Joy did, i remember articles counting down the days for her to turn 20 and start dating because she had "the body, face and personality men like". 🤢
Now that i see the lyrics i feel dirty. Bye.
“Idols would perform this song for fans once they hit the age of 18” I legit almost barfed after hearing that
i think there's definitely ways to do sexy concepts without objectifying the ladies doing them. sistar for example had stated many times over the years that they much prefer sexy concepts, that they felt way less confident pulling off cute ones. when the artists have control and agency, then we as viewers know we haven't unwittingly violated their consent.
what i really don't like, is when companies use a dramatic shift to a racy concept as a marketing ploy. from experience, so many of these suddenly sexy girl groups are so disposable. their companies clearly don't value them as artists and it shows when the inevitable lawsuits, breakups, contract negotiations come up. the sexy concept was maybe just a last ditch effort to squeeze some cash out of them. they expose these girls to so much criticism while also letting 'fans' take pictures of their buttcheeks. it just feels so exploitative.
I don't understand people who are all of a sudden saying they never liked sexy concept. The company/artist used the sexy concept because YOU bought it. Plus YOU guys are always saying how you don't like cute, lovely concepts and like "badass, confident, sexy" concepts. We (the audience) have no idea if the artist is truly confident or is acting confident but you always shout for sexy hot confident women so that's what the company is giving you.
Kpop use to look "grown up" but now in this new generation it's about looking "young". If you take a look, there are mostly young fans than adult fans
I had some videos in my recommendations and was wondering why it's a thing to cover this song and dance. Thank you for the explanation!
01'z liners of IZ*ONE recently covered this song 😗
This song is really iconic. If you frequently watch korean music shows or variety shows, it's impossible that you haven't heard it even once. From kpop idols to comedians, I think almost everyone is aware of the choreography haha.
I’m not a prude, nor am I judging idols who are made to perform this song but it’s always given me an unsettling feeling.
Like maybe it’s kind of signaling that the artists who perform it are officially up for grabs behind the scenes for creepy music execs or higher ups...I might be reaching but with how messed the music industry is worldwide it wouldn’t surprise me.
You definitely reaching
basically what YG did with Lee Eun Ju.
If other idols perform this,is that would be a problem.even if it is by their choice not force?
If the idol is an adult and is comfortable doing the ceremony, that's the most important thing. Same with sexy concepts, if it's not forced and something the groups liked doing(like AOA, Girls Day and Sistar), then it's all good.
Wow she’s so pretty, I never noticed before. As pretty as Hyori
I remember watching and listening to Adult Ceremony when I was 15 and thinking, "wow... this is one sexual song..."
It was 2009, I am a Brazilian, I was already used to such concepts in my own country and international pop. It wasn't anything new to me, seeing a sexualized concept, but I had the notion that, for Asians (I wasn't that into Korean culture, so I based my thought process on Japanese culture), that imagery and song must have been a BOOM. And I was correct. Hahaha
I love Park Ji Yoon. She's one of the most authentic artists in K-pop history, tbh. To me, she's up there with legends such as Lee HyoRi and Uhm Jung Hwa and Lee Jung Hyun.
Coming of age ceremony from Park ji yoon was the pioneer? Uhm jung hwa's song "invitation" would beg otherwise (it came out two years earlier).
Still one of my favourite kpop songs
It's a song used in AuditionPH a rhythm game stated in 2006
The creepiest thing about the song "coming of age " is that the song speaks about grooming of a underage girl.
The Queen has come back to speak straight faxs 💯💯💯
So Daewhi and Taemin's sexy solos rejoicing in how they're adults and can be sexy now are okay. But when a woman does it we get this kind of discussions.
Let's be clear here. It's never okay to sexualize underage people or force anyone (no matter their age) to do anything that makes them uncomfortable. That being said, I don't see a problem with this song and I think some comments under this video are overreacting.
Not only does this sexualize young idols, but it just reinforces the idea that a woman’s body is always an open invitation even when it’s not. It takes away all agency from said woman in question, feeding into the idea that a man’s sexual advances is always justified and I absolutely hate that.
Actually starts around 1:33
Hope it saves somebody's time
thx bestie
I felt so uncomfortable when joys fancams had more views than the whole performance and most comments were about her body. Apart from the adult ceremony performances some fans even ogle underrated kids like yeji and jungkook (when he was a minor)
your intro sold me; i subbed!
Me, a shawol: JINKI DID WHAT?
After watching it: damn his vocal register 👁️👄👁️ show off that skill 👑
I clicked the notification ❤️
Thank you for watching 💛
I think its crazy how people have consistently argued over whether a "Sexy" concept is okay. Like it's so weird to me that the argument always falls to fans doing too much and constantly sexualizing their idols or babying them and hating anything provocative. It literally isn't our call to make an idol should obviously be able to choose what they are comfortable doing. I think it's weird that people argue over this stuff bc just like idols we have a right to be comfortable or uncomfortable with provocation too. Yes, some fans on both sides go overboard but I see ppl snapping at each other over the most tame comments like yall sound so hypocritical........
No one beats 9Muses’ cover of Adult Ceremony. They just nail it every time
I mean I’m happy these stages stopped, I have no problem with idols being like hey I’m not just cute I can be a badass too. Like I love the badass/Sexy concepts of kpop but I feel bad for some of the girls that did it. Who knows how uncomfortable some of them were.
Never heard of this! Great job explaining the video, I enjoyed it! The thing that stuck with me was how the priest PLAYED THAT, in front of many innocent families, including her own. If my priest did that I'd be mortified.
Yes A new upload!
When I learned the lyrics and Lee hyoris age when it was released, it all felt so wrong
i definetly prefer the sexy consept over cute one.... but i hope that the idols make sexy songs because they want to not because intertainments make them
The best cover was and always will be Lee Sungjong's
Omg I'm so early hehehe ❤️
Thanks for watching 💛
@@MidnightTheories 😊❤️
its also just a groomer's dream, the song might be touted as something revolutionary for female sexuality and opening the gate for women to express themselves (and I'm not denying its impact on the world either, just discussing how misguided it is, basically how women empowerment is still just do whatever men want ig idk lol) but the actual message of the song is of an adult man wanting to sleep with a minor and watching them grow up waiting till it was finally legal and then having the child do a sexy dance to be like yep I wanted this too so its totally okay, like it would be one thing if it was just about a woman expressing her sexuality and saying she too (as an adult woman) wants to sleep with men etc etc but the fact that the singer themselves and probably most idols who cover this the moment they turn eighteen didn't even understand the contents of the lyrics just proves how inappropriate the song actually is, it's being used as a justification for consent when these young people don't even fully understand what it means
Came here because of 황치열 Chiyeul Hwang😍! As of late no one would disagree his cover is the best😍😍!
"Sung In Shik" -- The song that got me started in K-pop, though it was through the dance scene in the film, "My Tutor Friend".
Took me a while to find out the name of the song and who sung it (not so much info online during those years). Also required a little effort to secure the music CD, but it was well worth it, as the entire album is killer.
Sunjong's performance was I.CO.NIC
i remember when you only had 1k subbies. you've come a long way
Please keep making videos about Kpop histories I want to know more I like your videos
0:55 I UNLOKCED A LOST MEMEORY I KNOW THAT SONNGG
I remember when this song came out and loving it
2013-2016 that should be the hay day of Sexy concept Girl group kpop songs. The group that used Sexy Concept are the following 9muses AOA Sistar Girl's Day Hello Venus Miss A Brown Eyed Girls and Stellar. Of those groups Stellar Hello Venus and 9muses have 19 rated MV
Could You Do The Dark Side Of YG Entertainment Video
9muses owned it
i have a question, very off topic, but what mv is this at 0:59 its beautiful
also the song cover, im fine with idols covering Adult Ceremony as long as their comfortable with it, and that their not being sexualize by people because of it
I first heard Adult Ceremony when I saw Jimin and Jungkook dancing to it.
CONSENT. IS. IMPORTANT.
I was shocked IU was forced to do this but at the same time, it was expected of almost anyone
if they wanted to do it then its fine
but if they were forced then that's where im throwing HANDS
ok so luckily i stan a group that non only choose the song that they want to sing but also write their song.
i have noticed that male idol are having really revealing clothes expetialy kai form exo
i am not a bg stan so for me to notice that it most have been really obvious
When you see your own karaoke video @ 1:43 ...my old SONE life LOL
Adult Ceremony is like the Korean version of Sailor fuku wo Nugusanaide
JY jus be hittin different with those moves does
I love this song so much
Honestly, so long as the idols themselves are comfortable with performing the song, I don't have a problem. It's when idols are forced into doing something they are uncomfortable with, that's when I have a problem.
wait wait *wait WAIT JUST A MINUTE!* Jo Kwon covered it? Now that's something I gotta see LOL
I genuinely think there's nothing wrong with sexy concepts, I absolutely love them because I love to express myself that way. But I believe that sexy concepts shouldn't be forced upon idols and should be done if idols feel comfortable doing so. I recently found out that IZ*ONE did their cover of Adult Ceremony and I felt uneasy because the 4 members who performed the song just came into adulthood lol.
I’ve been a huge fan of kpop since ‘09 and I know how “iconic” this song is among the idols and some fans. But in all honesty I never liked this song 😭. I never understood the longevity of it as well. There’s not one cover that has changed my mind on this song in my 11 years of loving kpop not one.
the music reminds me of Bollywood or something
i like the versions of Jimin and Jungkook of BTS💛💜😊☺️🥰💯🇵🇭
I feel like it's fine for idols to do it as long as the idols aren't forced to perform it. If the idols wanted to do it without any type of second opinion or force, it's fine.
I cant forget Jungkook's sexy dancing. He was so confident and happy.
I wonder what was going through JYP's mind when he wrote the song. If you do a lyric breakdown it basically says that there was this girl and a man. The man wanted to have sex with the girl but has to wait for some time because she's a minor. And now that she's a legal adult the girl is telling the man that it's they can now do the did. Isn't that grooming? Anyways, I'm glad Park Jiyoon was able to come forward and speak about what the song did to her. Might brought her fame but the damage it did to her mental health and her relationship with her parents is something to not be taken lightly. I'm also glad she had the guts to walk away from the image given to her which she's not comfortable.
Grace Fire The lyrics said " I'm thankful you waited for me. ". Which clearly meant that the man told girl that he will wait till she reach the right age to the deed. This was the interpretation of the artist herself, her parents and a lot of knetz who think of her negatively throughout the years. And whatever the intention is, it is the songwriter/producers job to brief the singer about the meaning of the song and asked her if she's comfortable with it. She maybe of legal age at that time but we must bare in mind that South Korea is still a conservative country up to this day. The song was released in 2000. It did brought her massive fame and it is what she's known up to this day. Imagine being known for a song about being wanting to be eagerly wanting to be deflowered. The impact of what happened on her mental health made her on hiatus for six years.
9muses’s cover stay the best til this day
Poor girl was just 18 … I've had before she got really depressed because of the hate she received. She was indeed too young
Jay Why Pee looks so funny dancing
I personally really like 성인식 but I am very comfortable with performing sexy concepts on the stage...
not Park Ji-yoon, Uhm Jung-hwa. (Invitation (1998)
Thanks for this because looking it up the explanation was kinda vague.
Jyp is creepy though. The way they sexualised young girl is just CREEPY.
u should put a warning before the clip of jyp dancing adult ceremony, like i choked on my noodles
I know the song because of Audition.
Until I recently saw a subtitled version of this song, I never knew the song is so sexual