I decided I am thrilled with the great insulated polystyrene hives. I'm swapping mine. Not only for the awesome insulation, also the light weight. I strap them down to the cinder blocks I set them on.
Thank you David!! To anyone who watched the video and has lots of questions/concerns: we have lots of details regarding the design (and proof that it does in fact function very well) on our RUclips channel and website. And of course as David mentioned we will be happy to take questions and address concerns during the livestream next week :)
I'm in Southeastern Pennsylvania. I would be more interested in your two queen system than the one queen. I wish you well with your new design and hope you're successful. If you are successful you could have the opportunity to produce this hive into the foam and plastic designs. When I went on your website the first thing I looked for was the price. Thinking about what I have to pay for two hives, bottom boards, queen excluders, etc. I feel the price is fair.
Ha David I heard about this new type of hive I like the idea and I want to get the 2 queen hive I cant waite to be able to buy one. I thik it going to be so very cool. I hope u have a wondeerful thanksgiving. God Bless have a great week
I got my Anel hive in late summer and placed a growing NUC in a single deep, but did not like the top cover setup. I used another deep on a solid wood bottom and on both hive bodies use an inner cover and a shallow box with a round top feeder, 3-inch blanket of fiberglass insulation over the feeder and these hives are doing great with the cold nights. In the morning, pull back the insulation and the feeder is really warm.. I'm looking at buying just the Anel hive bodies and using my regular setup as described.. OAV does not do well with the open screen bottom and I made a platform to hold the bottom legs on two cinder blocks to prevent falling over.
Dave, i know a person in Crossville tn, he was doing there 2 queen hive for a while now, just not with the easy access to the brood box, but it works well for heavy honey flow, thanks again
Good question, I will try one out in the spring, but they claim to have frame guards to help with this. And not having the frame hanging recess in the box would also help maybe.
David, regarding that new beehive, once the bees start to put propolis on the shelves or rims where the tabs of the frames rest on I do not think you will be able to slide those frames out easily?? It’s hard enough pulling frames straight up in a conventional Langstroth in the Summer!
Definitely check out our video about how our design prevents propolis, believe it or not the frames are actually MUCH easier to remove than Langstroth.
I think I'll stick with my langstroth and 30 frame long langs. I'm going to long langs totally because I can inspect my brood without taking the whole hive apart and I'm not lifting hive boxes. I'll switch as I can build them.
Hi David The problem that I see with this new beekeepers hive is that the supers will make the hive centre of gravity way off balance as the additional supers are stacked on top of each other. Thereby making it susepable to wind toppling the hive. On the good side is that the lifting weight of the supers is reduced by almost half.
I am only concerned about stacking honey supers so high in 5 frame nuc arrangement. I like the Mike Palmer side by side 5 frame nuc set up as there is stability. I always like innovation and thinking outside the box though!
David you may find interesting Slovenian Hive. They can be use on a trailer to do pollinations also backyard keeper who got back problems to lift boxes
I just started checking into the keepers hive. My equipment is old and time to cycle out. I would like the two queen hive more than the one queen that they have. If the company does well, I would like to see them produce the hives out of foam and plastic like the new hives. I wish them well and hope they are successful the Demaree method seems easy with this because with only eight frames swarming would be a concern.
I already see several issues that could be problematic. Propolis buildup, frame feeders, inspection of central frames specifically without removing half the frames potential leakage during rain.
David- I’ve heard of people creating a hive configuration similar to this with standard Langstroth boxes but using two deep boxes side-by-side with separate colonies. Then they put a queen excluder and then super that is on half of each of the lower hives so that each colony can access it. Then they just keep adding supers on top of that. They have to put some type of top covering the outer half of each bottom box. The can take those tops off and check half of the frames in each lower box without taking the supers off. That is where the beekeepers hive is better though, it allows you to check all of the frames in the lower box. I suspect that you could take two of those hives side-by-side and put an 8 frame super on top of them overlapping each hive and have a two colony setup similar to the one I mentioned but have the ability to check all of the frames in the brood chamber without removing supers. I think that would be a very interesting setup!
Hi David, perhaps this company has already thought of these things, but I am wondering about how well this would really work. Isn't the reason beekeepers use 8 or 10 frame supers instead of nucs stacked on top of one another is because with a healthy colony you would end up with a skyscraper? Perhaps better proportions would be a 16 frame brood box and a 8 frame honey super, this would also help with the case that some beekeepers like to run two deeps as brood boxes. Though even so, if you wanted to sit down while inspecting, a horizontal langstroth or a top bar hive without a stand might be a better option, even though you can't add extra space which is likely what this company is trying to overcome whilst still having a hive that doesn't require lifting heavy supers. Mabey this company will have to create multiple versions similar to what the flow hive people did (although perhaps that was just an attempt to make flow hives slightly cheaper) so there is one suited each persons' own needs.
Definitely check out our video that details how our design prevents propolis 😊 we’ve had lots of heavy propolizers in these hives and it’s much less of an issue than you think!
@@TheKeepersHivei know a guy thats been doing the same 2 queen box style thing for a bit, and it works well, he came up with this a while back, thought he was odd, but seeing it done elsewhere is interesting!
David! If you haven't already, please check out Dick Vermeulen's hybrid AZ hive design. He recently wrote about it for Bee Culture and he has an article coming out about it in the ABJ mag. It uses AZ frames that take a standard deep foundation and can accomodate standard Langstroth frames in the bottom chamber (to make installing bees and transitioning to AZ frames easier). It's great! I have also dove into many different hive designs this year but that one is my favorite: insulated, can be used outside (unlike traditional AZ hives), and you can easily transition from Langstroth/Hoffman style deep frames to a new and better way (with no lifting!)
Hi David, how do The Keepers Hive designers address the following: Adding another Deep box, Placement of Formic Pro Mite treatment strips and top feeders to their hives?
I seen these hives at a house . The owner is a truck driver like me . I stopped by to talk to him he's never home but he has called me . I told him I want to check them out .
One box isn't enough so you're going to have to lift it and inspect the bottom box. If you have to lift that whole top box off when it's full it's going to be really heavy. A very large Colony will not fit in that. That would be my only concern
Hive looks nice but I think it's for hobbyist with few fancy hives I'm afraid if you have all the honey on one side it will tip over You have to remove all frames to inspect the hive not for me I rather remove one frame. 👍👍👍
Seems to a lot less room for mistakes in beekeeping. Have to be very diligent on space. The hobby guy would probably loss a lot of bees to swarming in a small space like that.
Hey Adam - you’re correct, the smaller space does lead to greater swarm impulse, however our hive makes it very easy to perform the Demaree method for swarm control - it is highly effective and these hives swarm way less often as a result. Check out our video on the subject 😊
No thanks. Most everyone else has already pointed out the inherent obvious flaws. Which haven't been addressed by the creators. Watching this is already to much work. Ill take horizontal hives for the win.
Wonderful. Hello. My dear beekeeper friend, respect and greetings from Turkey.
Thanks so much for watching!
As a retired bee keeper. Im lookin forward to your review on this hive. Anything to save an old person's back. Love your content.
Here it is so far: ruclips.net/video/sKZenDnUDWU/видео.htmlsi=Vdr1QJ2fHzQrSpGh
As much as I like and appreciate new innovation, this looks like a solution for a problem that doesn't exist
I does address the problem of heavy lifting and swarm control.
After 55 years of beekeeping I love my long langstroth the best
I decided I am thrilled with the great insulated polystyrene hives. I'm swapping mine. Not only for the awesome insulation, also the light weight. I strap them down to the cinder blocks I set them on.
Thank you David!! To anyone who watched the video and has lots of questions/concerns: we have lots of details regarding the design (and proof that it does in fact function very well) on our RUclips channel and website. And of course as David mentioned we will be happy to take questions and address concerns during the livestream next week :)
I'm in Southeastern Pennsylvania. I would be more interested in your two queen system than the one queen.
I wish you well with your new design and hope you're successful.
If you are successful you could have the opportunity to produce this hive into the foam and plastic designs.
When I went on your website the first thing I looked for was the price. Thinking about what I have to pay for two hives, bottom boards, queen excluders, etc. I feel the price is fair.
Ha David I heard about this new type of hive I like the idea and I want to get the 2 queen hive I cant waite to be able to buy one. I thik it going to be so very cool. I hope u have a wondeerful thanksgiving. God Bless have a great week
I like the Anel hives... As far as the small hive beetle, I have not seen any since making and applying that murder sauce...it works
I got my Anel hive in late summer and placed a growing NUC in a single deep, but did not like the top cover setup. I used another deep on a solid wood bottom and on both hive bodies use an inner cover and a shallow box with a round top feeder, 3-inch blanket of fiberglass insulation over the feeder and these hives are doing great with the cold nights. In the morning, pull back the insulation and the feeder is really warm.. I'm looking at buying just the Anel hive bodies and using my regular setup as described.. OAV does not do well with the open screen bottom and I made a platform to hold the bottom legs on two cinder blocks to prevent falling over.
Dave, i know a person in Crossville tn, he was doing there 2 queen hive for a while now, just not with the easy access to the brood box, but it works well for heavy honey flow, thanks again
I love trying new hives. Great video David.
This is surprisingly clean and not sealed with propolis. How is it going to slide after the frames are sealed?
Good question, I will try one out in the spring, but they claim to have frame guards to help with this. And not having the frame hanging recess in the box would also help maybe.
David, regarding that new beehive, once the bees start to put propolis on the shelves or rims where the tabs of the frames rest on I do not think you will be able to slide those frames out easily?? It’s hard enough pulling frames straight up in a conventional Langstroth in the Summer!
Definitely check out our video about how our design prevents propolis, believe it or not the frames are actually MUCH easier to remove than Langstroth.
Thanks for another great video!
I put DE under my hives on ground and last year there were so many hive beetles I lost my hives this year I only saw one hive beetle
That Beekeeper's Hive is a great idea!
I think I'll stick with my langstroth and 30 frame long langs. I'm going to long langs totally because I can inspect my brood without taking the whole hive apart and I'm not lifting hive boxes. I'll switch as I can build them.
Really am intrigued by the Keeper hive! It looks easy to use to prevent swarming. And very little lifting.
Hi David
The problem that I see with this new beekeepers hive is that the supers will make the hive centre of gravity way off balance as the additional supers are stacked on top of each other. Thereby making it susepable to wind toppling the hive.
On the good side is that the lifting weight of the supers is reduced by almost half.
Especially as windy as it is where I live. A tie down strap should keep it steady.
It looks like the Keeper’s Hive is geared for single brood chamber management.
Do I have this correct?
7:40 what is that sound (repeating more times)?
I wondered the same thing.
I wonder wether you can stil pull out the frames as easy as in the video after the bees have started to propolize them.
Hey David . I'm interested in the horizontal hive . Whenever weather permits, can you do a video on inspecting your horizontal.
The keeper looks cool, it'll probably do well in the hobbyist market.
What about Kerkhove's hive or H1 hive? Is it really that good ?
Only thing is I can think of would be would the hive get tippy on the one side and fall over with the honey supers stacked but off to the side?
I am only concerned about stacking honey supers so high in 5 frame nuc arrangement. I like the Mike Palmer side by side 5 frame nuc set up as there is stability. I always like innovation and thinking outside the box though!
Very interesting, be careful not to fall into the ah, ehh, er trap. I’ll look for your horizontal hive video.
more winter insulation would be nice.
It should be said that the main purpose of this keepers hive is to help prevent swarming. There are methods to it that are explained.
David you may find interesting Slovenian Hive. They can be use on a trailer to do pollinations also
backyard keeper who got back problems to lift boxes
I agree, the AZ Slovenian design is the premiere "no back strain" hive design that's been around for about 100 years.
I just started checking into the keepers hive. My equipment is old and time to cycle out. I would like the two queen hive more than the one queen that they have.
If the company does well, I would like to see them produce the hives out of foam and plastic like the new hives.
I wish them well and hope they are successful
the Demaree method seems easy with this because with only eight frames swarming would be a concern.
Where is the half off online courses?
They go on sale Nov 24-27
I already see several issues that could be problematic.
Propolis buildup, frame feeders, inspection of central frames specifically without removing half the frames potential leakage during rain.
Have you seen the Bee Barn developed by Vino farms?
David- I’ve heard of people creating a hive configuration similar to this with standard Langstroth boxes but using two deep boxes side-by-side with separate colonies. Then they put a queen excluder and then super that is on half of each of the lower hives so that each colony can access it. Then they just keep adding supers on top of that. They have to put some type of top covering the outer half of each bottom box. The can take those tops off and check half of the frames in each lower box without taking the supers off. That is where the beekeepers hive is better though, it allows you to check all of the frames in the lower box. I suspect that you could take two of those hives side-by-side and put an 8 frame super on top of them overlapping each hive and have a two colony setup similar to the one I mentioned but have the ability to check all of the frames in the brood chamber without removing supers. I think that would be a very interesting setup!
IMO beekeeping suffers a lot of over-technification. There is nothing as simple, and efective as a good old Kenya style hive
Hi David, perhaps this company has already thought of these things, but I am wondering about how well this would really work. Isn't the reason beekeepers use 8 or 10 frame supers instead of nucs stacked on top of one another is because with a healthy colony you would end up with a skyscraper? Perhaps better proportions would be a 16 frame brood box and a 8 frame honey super, this would also help with the case that some beekeepers like to run two deeps as brood boxes. Though even so, if you wanted to sit down while inspecting, a horizontal langstroth or a top bar hive without a stand might be a better option, even though you can't add extra space which is likely what this company is trying to overcome whilst still having a hive that doesn't require lifting heavy supers. Mabey this company will have to create multiple versions similar to what the flow hive people did (although perhaps that was just an attempt to make flow hives slightly cheaper) so there is one suited each persons' own needs.
Hmm... my bees would destroy this hive with the amount of propolis they produce
Definitely check out our video that details how our design prevents propolis 😊 we’ve had lots of heavy propolizers in these hives and it’s much less of an issue than you think!
That was my thought also. 🐝👍💜
@@TheKeepersHivei know a guy thats been doing the same 2 queen box style thing for a bit, and it works well, he came up with this a while back, thought he was odd, but seeing it done elsewhere is interesting!
Hey David this might be a great setup for summer but I don’t see how this would work for over winter bee up here in the north
David! If you haven't already, please check out Dick Vermeulen's hybrid AZ hive design. He recently wrote about it for Bee Culture and he has an article coming out about it in the ABJ mag. It uses AZ frames that take a standard deep foundation and can accomodate standard Langstroth frames in the bottom chamber (to make installing bees and transitioning to AZ frames easier). It's great! I have also dove into many different hive designs this year but that one is my favorite: insulated, can be used outside (unlike traditional AZ hives), and you can easily transition from Langstroth/Hoffman style deep frames to a new and better way (with no lifting!)
I had never heard of The Keepers Hive until this video. Looks like a solid design. The double configuration would be a honey producer i'm sure.
Fred Dunn has a great video with these guys, looks like a great product
Hi David, how do The Keepers Hive designers address the following:
Adding another Deep box, Placement of Formic Pro Mite treatment strips and top feeders to their hives?
how would you over winter one of these hives?
Where can you get horizontal hives?
It is good for the hobby beekeepers but not commercial beekeepers.Thanks for sharing
Horizontal hives & nuc boxes are the most efficient it seems like...I built a few 6 frame deeps & they are awesome
Horizontal hives
I seen these hives at a house . The owner is a truck driver like me . I stopped by to talk to him he's never home but he has called me . I told him I want to check them out .
I've been looking at these Keeper hives too recently because I sometimes struggle with the bigger boxes. Flow hives don't do so well in our climate
One box isn't enough so you're going to have to lift it and inspect the bottom box. If you have to lift that whole top box off when it's full it's going to be really heavy. A very large Colony will not fit in that. That would be my only concern
Hive looks nice but I think it's for hobbyist with few fancy hives
I'm afraid if you have all the honey on one side it will tip over
You have to remove all frames to inspect the hive not for me I rather remove one frame.
👍👍👍
Seems to a lot less room for mistakes in beekeeping. Have to be very diligent on space. The hobby guy would probably loss a lot of bees to swarming in a small space like that.
Hey Adam - you’re correct, the smaller space does lead to greater swarm impulse, however our hive makes it very easy to perform the Demaree method for swarm control - it is highly effective and these hives swarm way less often as a result. Check out our video on the subject 😊
To much extra stuff and I can imagine trying to dig out those frames
No thanks. Most everyone else has already pointed out the inherent obvious flaws. Which haven't been addressed by the creators. Watching this is already to much work. Ill take horizontal hives for the win.