Thanks I came across a Bee colony in a Beech tree that had suffered a lightning strike and exposed the nest and as a friend and I sat watching we noticed bees flying to and from a wet muddy area gathering mud which they were using to try and build a mud roof to the exposed nest, unfortunately about three weeks later when we visited the whole nest was dead due to harsh winter weather. But to watch the bees trying to rescue the colony was truly impressive.
Very interesting. I think those are great bees. They are not aggressive at all, considering you did not smoke. They are surviving varroa and viruses. With a little help they could be superior. Your advice to OAV treat and shook swarm is spot on. Someone with a better outlook on native stock and less pessimistic on potential disease is going to get some great bees. I'm sending this from the bee expo in the US. Missing you being here this year. Take care.
I would say 30 years ago there was a beehive behind my old neighbor's house I moved away years ago I rode by there last year and I seen the box so I stopped to ask the new owners if I can have the box and they said please and take the bees to
@FIRMAMENTALIST7 I'm going to go out tomorrow and see if they made it through the winter they had a hard time when we had the snow they got knocked over they was open I would say at least overnight up about 12:00 the next day but there was when I put them back together
13:25 That drop right there really set them off. What an amazing hive. It’s always interesting seeing what animals do when left to their own devices for so long.
The reason the capped stores look different is because the stores come from two different parts of the season. Inner stuff is probably glover which granulates much quicker. They ate the middle out after filling it, dearth happened, and then pilled it up with the different nectar. I dealt with a similar hive some years ago a hunter told me about. :) Frames disintegrating as I pulled them and moved to a fresh box! Neat find, great video.
All the best for the new year, health for you and your family and ... your bees. Thank you for this video. I especially enjoyed your advise for a possible follow up to get this colony into a healthier state. 👍🏼
This was like one we had to remove just recently. Guy hadn't been in for over 5 years, every frame and box was rotten, comb welded together. Nightmare but great fun rescuing and rehoming
It's really good fun. I would have snapped this up in previous years but now if there is any high varroa load or no brood identify disease I leave it and give to someone else (not close to me) to take and manage. It carries SO much risk into the apiary :(
@BlackMountainHoney yeah we've a little quarantine apiary, we take them there for a month, rehome, and treat, then If all is looking good, we take them to our out apiaries, then speak to this guy we know, from BMH he is 😆 🤣 and requeen 🐝 🐝 🐝
@emdeejay7432 I was just taking in reverence for the lost. It's not some conspiracy, we all know that 2020 refers to COVID. Don't spin my words into some nonsense. ✌️
I guess this nectar is from Adelgidae adelges. We had a big problem with Adelgidae adelges last year in southern Sweden. Bees need a lot of water to eat it, so we need to remove all before winter. I removed 250 frames from 35 hives, just to melt it down. I saved 50 frames for the nucs this spring.
Really enjoyed that! Stupidly I sold most of my honey a few months ago, so on my last jar now, so can't wait till next year and taking some more off. Suppose I better try to increase my number of colonies😅
@@eastsussexbeesandwildlife5801 I'm glad you enjoyed it Peter. It was good fun being back into the bees! I'm sure you will have a bumper crop next season
Why didn't you check for varroa, first? Those bees flourished without treatment for so long. Iy goes to show that chemical treatment is not so much necessary.
did you watch the actual video and listen to what he said? these particualr bees have most liely just moved in recently and did not survive since a longer time. this colony is doomed beyong repair and treatment: if you have easily spotable varroa damage (deformed wigs etc) and even no brood, this colony will soon collapse
@andidhamo583 you can tell there's no eggs, there's no larvae, and there's no pupae that's alive. Either they just swarmed there recently and haven't been able to even lay eggs, there's no sight of Queen actually currently laying.. or these bees have been here for a while and are totally on the verge of collapse and that would be a very thin probability considering he randomly came to a 10 year abandoned hive and they are collapsing now as the original or an older colony
I want to have a hive but have decided in my situation which is suburban I don't eat enough honey (about a desert-spoonful a day) to keep a hive and feel that I would be robbing the local wild bees of food. I garden organically and my garden is about one third each of cultivated flowers, vegetables and wild. I recently decide to abandon even my careful annual use of spray on my thirty odd rose bushes for the bees sake. However with the very variable summers we have lately I have seen a very big differences in both numbers and species of visiting bees. That reinforces my decision over a hive.
I live in the city of Boise Idaho USA. My bees don't like domestic roses because they are too hybrid; they can't reproduce from seeds, only from grafts . Bees smell them, but leave them alone. They have no pollen, or nectar that the bees want to eat. Poison on a few roses probably wouldn't kill very many bees, if any at all. I don't spray, but the people that spray my yard know that I have honey bees in the back yard, and say what they use won't hurt bees. I think part of it is, spraying my ornamental fruit trees, before they bloom. I don't know what they spray. They don't spray every year either. I have had no problems. with poisoned bees. I have killed bees with mite treatments though. Get some bees and try it, but read up on them first so they have a good chance. They are fun to keep, and you can leave home when you go on long vacations, not like other pets. You don't have to eat the honey, everyone wants it. The bees will eat a lot of it too. Makes good presents. Tell them please give back the jars if they want more.😂😂😂
u should make the bees a new box and leave them be/e :) so they can survive on their own , not to make them a house bee type. u should come once a year or twice to check on them do some repairs but keep everything untouched as possible and leave the honey packets full i would want to see how far and how big the colony can get
I mean you say they're unhealthy and high mortality rate but theres thousands and thousands of them there. I don't know but it doesn't look that bad. Also I love dark honeys like that. 2 of the best honeys i had were orange blossom which was a light orange beautiful citrusy honey and ky favorite I had was an avocado blossom honey, it was so dark and rich and deep. Absolutely gorgeous. I love watching videos like this. Also I had a berry blossom honey once that was so sweet, it almost had a cotton candy flavor going on. I love how different honeys have different flavors. So wonderful.
I watched a bee keeper catch a swarm ball assuming that they were docile and focused on the queen, it didn't go well, this was in South Texas and they were Africanized bees. To my surprise the pheromones left on my jacket caused myself to be swarmed the following day miles away from where we were the previous day.
Interesting how it goes. Bees are left by beekeeper and they die or move out. Wax moth and mice move in and create space. Search bees find it and take a swarm in. Mites build up and bees abscond again. And so it goes. It does seem that bees untreated will sometimes abscond.
You said you were going to try the honey I was excited then you said you weren't I was disappointed then you said you were going to try them again😂😂 what a roller coaster of emotions👍👍
3:03 my guess is because instead of knowing if something is a threat, they kill it regardless. They kill the threat and once in a while something that isnt a threat. safer to kill all than to try to figure out if something is friend or foe
Oh thank goodness sounds like someone will be able to save them. Yes, bees thg can survive these threats could breed bees that suppress them later. Saving the world by aaving bees
A non-Beekeeper here who would have loved to have kept Bees if it were not for my aggressive allergy to them meaning one sting results in an instant anaphylaxis. In this instance, do you kill the hive? If so, how do you kill it?
An expert explains about the issue using actual science, experience, and showing examples. Commenters ignore all that and state or assert things that have been clearly explained to be wrong. Yeah. People wonder why we have issues. They blame everything but themselves.
I'm new to bee keeping 1st year. OK so high veroa load, Why not treat it with oxalic acid yourself? even if you are not taking it home. consider it like vermin control. Really enjoying all your videos and learning a lot from them.
Why does he keep calling the hive "abandoned" ??? Does it mean something completely different to a beekeeper than to a civilian ? Because that hive is quite obviously NOT abandoned.
Because viruses are highly specialized. We are surrounded by viruses all the time. But only a few of them manage to infect us and cause sickness. See them as bank robbers and every other living species as a bank vault. If they know the code, then they can enter. But the code differs from species to species and very few have the same code. Then there is the immune system (security guards) who will try to eliminate them before reaching the vault (the specific cells that the virus knows how to enter). If a virus learns to evade the immune system and it’s given enough time. Through mutation, one might get the key to enter one of your cells. That’s how some viruses can jump from animals to humans. It takes time and it’s pretty much by accident that one of them got the ability to infect us.
@TheSkogarmoar difficult to say really. It depends on the concentration of it in the honey. It definitely affects the taste, which is a massive problem, as honeys biggest selling point is it's natural 'raw product. Selling honey whose taste is altered by medication is not a winner with customers, plus, without knowing the concentrations, there could be health implications.
So am I the only one who wants to know how many bees got in the hole in his suit!? My girls would have made a beeline for that hole and stung the crap out of me!
One should not perform an inspection without being prepared to follow though. Move them to a new box, destroy the old box & apply treatment then set follow up inspections. Asking someone else to fix the problem is not the answer. This was not much different than mice raiding the colony. Do better~
Respectfully disagree. I know many people who want these genetics for their apiary. I just gave it to one of them. I don't want these genetics in my apiary, nor the risk associated with them.
Isnt it better to have a lower mesh, So when the bees groom The mite falls onto a sticky pad through the mesh and can't come back up to reattach to the bees!! Presuming this would be a better alternative than chemically contaminating the honey Or is it a case of damned if you do or damned if you dont 😳
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It was very frustrating watching you work without a proper hove tool. Next time go back home and get a hive tool especially if you’re going to film a video.
Thanks I came across a Bee colony in a Beech tree that had suffered a lightning strike and exposed the nest and as a friend and I sat watching we noticed bees flying to and from a wet muddy area gathering mud which they were using to try and build a mud roof to the exposed nest, unfortunately about three weeks later when we visited the whole nest was dead due to harsh winter weather. But to watch the bees trying to rescue the colony was truly impressive.
Wonder if you'd called someone they could have come repair it before winter.
Who'd he call? The cops?@@luckylushie369
@@luckylushie369 Call who?
I would be happy to come by a colony with such good genetics.
GREAT SAVE
Very interesting. I think those are great bees. They are not aggressive at all, considering you did not smoke. They are surviving varroa and viruses. With a little help they could be superior. Your advice to OAV treat and shook swarm is spot on. Someone with a better outlook on native stock and less pessimistic on potential disease is going to get some great bees. I'm sending this from the bee expo in the US. Missing you being here this year. Take care.
were they rehomed?
I would say 30 years ago there was a beehive behind my old neighbor's house I moved away years ago I rode by there last year and I seen the box so I stopped to ask the new owners if I can have the box and they said please and take the bees to
Thats how a beekeeper is born🎉😂❤
@FIRMAMENTALIST7 I'm going to go out tomorrow and see if they made it through the winter they had a hard time when we had the snow they got knocked over they was open I would say at least overnight up about 12:00 the next day but there was when I put them back together
13:25
That drop right there really set them off.
What an amazing hive. It’s always interesting seeing what animals do when left to their own devices for so long.
I’ve never kept bees and learned so much on this video! What a find!!
Happy new year! If it was me working on that hive, I would change out all that old frames with new one's. Give the bees a good fighting chance.
I agree. The bees deserve a chance and a new hive might just help.
what a cool find. lesson learned, always have a few hive tools and gloves in the wagon. happy new year Laurence.
The reason the capped stores look different is because the stores come from two different parts of the season. Inner stuff is probably glover which granulates much quicker. They ate the middle out after filling it, dearth happened, and then pilled it up with the different nectar.
I dealt with a similar hive some years ago a hunter told me about. :) Frames disintegrating as I pulled them and moved to a fresh box!
Neat find, great video.
Great to be a BEEK....Only a few people get to taste it like that. Good video, thanks
All the best for the new year, health for you and your family and ... your bees. Thank you for this video. I especially enjoyed your advise for a possible follow up to get this colony into a healthier state. 👍🏼
This was like one we had to remove just recently.
Guy hadn't been in for over 5 years, every frame and box was rotten, comb welded together.
Nightmare but great fun rescuing and rehoming
It's really good fun. I would have snapped this up in previous years but now if there is any high varroa load or no brood identify disease I leave it and give to someone else (not close to me) to take and manage. It carries SO much risk into the apiary :(
@BlackMountainHoney yeah we've a little quarantine apiary, we take them there for a month, rehome, and treat, then If all is looking good, we take them to our out apiaries, then speak to this guy we know, from BMH he is 😆 🤣 and requeen 🐝 🐝 🐝
@neilfrozenoak5438 LOL. good plan Neil. it's a very rewarding part of beekeeping isn't it?
@BlackMountainHoney it really is, to see them now bursting and full of life is so rewarding
With what happened in 2020, I think there will be many things that got set down and left behind. We lost so many.
With "what happened"? Are we not allowed to say it? Government trying to censor it and just pretend it never happened? Lol.
@emdeejay7432 I was just taking in reverence for the lost. It's not some conspiracy, we all know that 2020 refers to COVID. Don't spin my words into some nonsense. ✌️
@@emdeejay7432 you´re aware that censorship is in full swing...right? we all know what he´s saying,and so do you
Nice video Laurence, Happy New Year to you and your family
Fascinating!
Surprising that the crystaled honey looks like brood
@@aidan4158 Really does look like it from afar!
I guess this nectar is from Adelgidae adelges. We had a big problem with Adelgidae adelges last year in southern Sweden. Bees need a lot of water to eat it, so we need to remove all before winter. I removed 250 frames from 35 hives, just to melt it down. I saved 50 frames for the nucs this spring.
Your channel has become one of my favourites ❤ keep up the great work sir
@@ChristopherofEngland Very kind of you sir. Thank you :)
Let the bees be bees.
Really enjoyed that! Stupidly I sold most of my honey a few months ago, so on my last jar now, so can't wait till next year and taking some more off. Suppose I better try to increase my number of colonies😅
@@eastsussexbeesandwildlife5801 I'm glad you enjoyed it Peter. It was good fun being back into the bees! I'm sure you will have a bumper crop next season
Is smoke harmful to the bees? Can you eat the wax also? I love bees i just dont know anything about raising them
2:57 do you think that could be a problem long term, us breeding too calm a bee?
Why didn't you check for varroa, first? Those bees flourished without treatment for so long. Iy goes to show that chemical treatment is not so much necessary.
did you watch the actual video and listen to what he said? these particualr bees have most liely just moved in recently and did not survive since a longer time. this colony is doomed beyong repair and treatment: if you have easily spotable varroa damage (deformed wigs etc) and even no brood, this colony will soon collapse
What he said was just a speculation. How can he really know what happened with the bees?
@andidhamo583 you can tell there's no eggs, there's no larvae, and there's no pupae that's alive. Either they just swarmed there recently and haven't been able to even lay eggs, there's no sight of Queen actually currently laying.. or these bees have been here for a while and are totally on the verge of collapse and that would be a very thin probability considering he randomly came to a 10 year abandoned hive and they are collapsing now as the original or an older colony
Stupide man !
Funny how your imagining the last beekeeper, maybe had dementia, maybe forgot his hive tool 😂
I want to have a hive but have decided in my situation which is suburban I don't eat enough honey (about a desert-spoonful a day) to keep a hive and feel that I would be robbing the local wild bees of food. I garden organically and my garden is about one third each of cultivated flowers, vegetables and wild. I recently decide to abandon even my careful annual use of spray on my thirty odd rose bushes for the bees sake. However with the very variable summers we have lately I have seen a very big differences in both numbers and species of visiting bees. That reinforces my decision over a hive.
I live in the city of Boise Idaho USA. My bees don't like domestic roses because they are too hybrid; they can't reproduce from seeds, only from grafts . Bees smell them, but leave them alone. They have no pollen, or nectar that the bees want to eat. Poison on a few roses probably wouldn't kill very many bees, if any at all. I don't spray, but the people that spray my yard know that I have honey bees in the back yard, and say what they use won't hurt bees. I think part of it is, spraying my ornamental fruit trees, before they bloom. I don't know what they spray. They don't spray every year either. I have had no problems. with poisoned bees. I have killed bees with mite treatments though. Get some bees and try it, but read up on them first so they have a good chance. They are fun to keep, and you can leave home when you go on long vacations, not like other pets. You don't have to eat the honey, everyone wants it. The bees will eat a lot of it too. Makes good presents. Tell them please give back the jars if they want more.😂😂😂
@@Dallan-x9c Inland Empire lets go!
u should make the bees a new box and leave them be/e :) so they can survive on their own , not to make them a house bee type. u should come once a year or twice to check on them do some repairs but keep everything untouched as possible and leave the honey packets full i would want to see how far and how big the colony can get
Great video 🎬👍🕯️
Thank you :) Glad you enjoyed it!
I mean you say they're unhealthy and high mortality rate but theres thousands and thousands of them there. I don't know but it doesn't look that bad. Also I love dark honeys like that. 2 of the best honeys i had were orange blossom which was a light orange beautiful citrusy honey and ky favorite I had was an avocado blossom honey, it was so dark and rich and deep. Absolutely gorgeous. I love watching videos like this. Also I had a berry blossom honey once that was so sweet, it almost had a cotton candy flavor going on. I love how different honeys have different flavors. So wonderful.
I watched a bee keeper catch a swarm ball assuming that they were docile and focused on the queen, it didn't go well, this was in South Texas and they were Africanized bees.
To my surprise the pheromones left on my jacket caused myself to be swarmed the following day miles away from where we were the previous day.
I definitely enjoyed your content I will subscribe to your channel ❤❤❤❤❤
I didn’t know bees could have slumlords. 😳
Bears ,honey badgers ...they been collecting rent 😂
Elder bee: "we have lived in this hive since the dawn of the first queen" 😂
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Interesting how it goes. Bees are left by beekeeper and they die or move out. Wax moth and mice move in and create space. Search bees find it and take a swarm in. Mites build up and bees abscond again. And so it goes.
It does seem that bees untreated will sometimes abscond.
You said you were going to try the honey I was excited then you said you weren't I was disappointed then you said you were going to try them again😂😂 what a roller coaster of emotions👍👍
@@bryanjohnson8162 LOL. Glad we finished with a taste!! :)
3:03 my guess is because instead of knowing if something is a threat, they kill it regardless. They kill the threat and once in a while something that isnt a threat. safer to kill all than to try to figure out if something is friend or foe
I love my leatherman, been using it for ten years now for cutting clothes off patients to check for injuries and blood.
Hi everyone. What kind of gloves is he using?
How do you not crush a bunch of bees when you reassemble everything? Or do you?
Oh thank goodness sounds like someone will be able to save them. Yes, bees thg can survive these threats could breed bees that suppress them later.
Saving the world by aaving bees
At 5:45 I freaked out!
A non-Beekeeper here who would have loved to have kept Bees if it were not for my aggressive allergy to them meaning one sting results in an instant anaphylaxis. In this instance, do you kill the hive? If so, how do you kill it?
taking a phone and calling a beekeeper to come for them
Hey leave those bees 🐝 alone and put you’re finger where the sun doesn’t shine ✨
Would you collect some of that hard stuff for medical studies!?
That harder waxy honey I wonder what it would be like on wounds
An expert explains about the issue using actual science, experience, and showing examples.
Commenters ignore all that and state or assert things that have been clearly explained to be wrong. Yeah. People wonder why we have issues. They blame everything but themselves.
You should have treated the Varroa mite to ensure it’s controlled.
The unusual crytalised I have seen before.. I would think it's ivy..
Do you have to sterilize your suit after encountering a hive with diseases?
6:43 My hive tool frames brake. Keep quite and show us the hive, with proper beekeeping tools
Was apigard around 10 years ago?
That's what I was thinking too.
10 years? they prolly developed their own space program by now..
So you talk mins about how you’re going to kill the bees cause they are diseased……… Then talks about how good the honey is 🤷🏾♂️….. leave the bees be
I'm new to bee keeping 1st year. OK so high veroa load, Why not treat it with oxalic acid yourself? even if you are not taking it home. consider it like vermin control. Really enjoying all your videos and learning a lot from them.
Why does he keep calling the hive "abandoned" ??? Does it mean something completely different to a beekeeper than to a civilian ? Because that hive is quite obviously NOT abandoned.
Abandoned by its human beekeeper, not by the bees inside.
How can the bees so contaminated yet produce such good honey and not infectious to humans. Yet infectious to other colonies that eat it.
that's exactly what happens I'm afraid. The EFB and AFB spores pose no risk to humans but will wipe out the bees in no time at all
Because viruses are highly specialized. We are surrounded by viruses all the time. But only a few of them manage to infect us and cause sickness.
See them as bank robbers and every other living species as a bank vault.
If they know the code, then they can enter. But the code differs from species to species and very few have the same code.
Then there is the immune system (security guards) who will try to eliminate them before reaching the vault (the specific cells that the virus knows how to enter).
If a virus learns to evade the immune system and it’s given enough time. Through mutation, one might get the key to enter one of your cells.
That’s how some viruses can jump from animals to humans.
It takes time and it’s pretty much by accident that one of them got the ability to infect us.
fart 1:21
He gassed those poor bees
I don’t understand why the honey is no good.
🔊 1:25 …
should prepare ... car emergency bee kit .... like first aid .. that is always in the car ?
A shame that they were so iinfected.
"were gonna take that" that sentence angered me.
Meh
@bobdrooples im just gonna come to your home and take what o want cos im big and your small
What happens if you eat honey with apivar on it
it was Apiguard, and that will contaminate it. Apiguard is a thymol based treatment, so all of the honey will potentially have a Thyme taste/smell.
@@m1nfy
So, bad for you or just tastes bad?
@TheSkogarmoar difficult to say really. It depends on the concentration of it in the honey. It definitely affects the taste, which is a massive problem, as honeys biggest selling point is it's natural 'raw product. Selling honey whose taste is altered by medication is not a winner with customers, plus, without knowing the concentrations, there could be health implications.
So am I the only one who wants to know how many bees got in the hole in his suit!? My girls would have made a beeline for that hole and stung the crap out of me!
1:25 eh,
1:18 does he let a fart or 3 drop or what?
Id say 20 years, wasy
Omg how many times did you use the word PROPER 😐
Proper loads!
how many stings per finger? haha
One should not perform an inspection without being prepared to follow though. Move them to a new box, destroy the old box & apply treatment then set follow up inspections. Asking someone else to fix the problem is not the answer. This was not much different than mice raiding the colony. Do better~
Respectfully disagree. I know many people who want these genetics for their apiary. I just gave it to one of them. I don't want these genetics in my apiary, nor the risk associated with them.
Then you should have just directed them to it instead of raiding it yourself
@calvincheney7405 how would I have known the state of the colony prior to inspecting it?
10 years on there own without you interference I’d say they are healthy
@@crisb3631 they most definitely are not healthy :)
Come on now it’s been 10 year there’s no treatment left in there so use the honey.
I've left the honey for the bees. Not about to nick their honey in the middle of winter. I just wanted a wee taste!
Isnt it better to have a lower mesh,
So when the bees groom
The mite falls onto a sticky pad through the mesh and can't come back up to reattach to the bees!!
Presuming this would be a better alternative than chemically contaminating the honey
Or is it a case of damned if you do or damned if you dont 😳
You farted loll
Bro stop talking man
Getting old sucks.
Yuck
JESUS bless and protect you all 🙏
REPENT OF YOUR SINS AND BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS WHO DIED FOR YOUR SINS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD AFTER 3 DAYS.
"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6).
No thank you
It was very frustrating watching you work without a proper hove tool. Next time go back home and get a hive tool especially if you’re going to film a video.
Not as frustrating as having to do it without a hive tool! It was a long drive so couldnt return home
Get a life!
He's mostly likely way better than you and knows what he's doing.
@@christophergarza9739 He might be ,that’s why I enjoy his videos. Thanks for your input.
He said that he forgot in the beginning
Who else noticed the fart @ 1m.25sec 😂😂😂
It's seems there is a HUGE peak at 1:25 LOL. I can confirm, it was not a fart!
I will never understand why more people are not creating beehives, assisting them with creature comforts including the hornet proof fixtures